Nov 17, 2020 City Council Joint Meeting

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THANK YOU, ROXANNE. I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THIS AND PEOPLE THINK THAT THEY WERE NOT A PART OF IT, OR DID YOU HEAR SOMETHING? AND WE GOT PROBLEMS TOO IMPORTANT OF A PROJECT.

GOOD NOW, WE WERE SORRY FOR THE TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY.

[4.a. Presentation by Haagen Company and Coachella Valley Development Partners on redevelopment plans for the Indio Marketplace (Kevin H. Snyder, AICP, Director of Community Development)]

MR. SCOTT, WHO WE STARTED THE MEETING WITH, WAS PARAPHRASING WHAT HAS HAPPENED SO FAR WITH THE INDIO MARKETPLACE.

HE'S GOING TO DO A BRIEF REINTRODUCTION OF WHAT HE TALKED ABOUT AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON WITH THE MEETING. MR. SCOTT.

THANK YOU. SO FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO COULDN'T READ MY LIPS, WE'RE WE'RE HERE TODAY TO DO A REALLY AN INTRODUCTORY MEETING ON A SIGNIFICANT PROJECT THAT THE CITY'S BEEN EXCITED ABOUT NOW FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.

THE OLD INDIO FASHION MALL SITE AND THE HAGEN COMPANY, ALEX HAGEN HAS COME TO US SOME TIME AGO NOW AND TOLD US THAT HE WAS INTERESTED IN TAKING THIS ON AND SEEING IF HE COULD DO SOMETHING POSITIVE FOR THE INDIO COMMUNITY.

AND WE'RE APPRECIATIVE OF THAT OPPORTUNITY.

WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY IS REALLY AN INTRODUCTORY MEETING FOR BOTH THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

IT IS INFORMATIONAL ONLY.

THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING.

IT IS NOT A DECISION MEETING WHERE ANYBODY'S GOING TO MAKE ANY KIND OF DECISIONS.

IT'S JUST A MEETING WHERE WE'RE RECEIVING INFORMATION AND PERHAPS PROVIDING EARLY INITIAL THOUGHTS ABOUT ABOUT WHAT WE SEE IN THE PROJECT THAT THAT WE'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH THE APPLICANT. SO THE FIRST REASON FOR DOING A MEETING LIKE THIS IS TO TO GIVE EVERYONE A CHANCE TO BE INTRODUCED TO THE PROJECT.

THE SECOND REASON FOR DOING IT IS THAT THERE'S TWO ASPECTS OF THIS PROJECT.

ONE IS THE TYPICAL DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION AND THE OTHER IS THERE'S A REAL ESTATE DEAL BECAUSE THE CITY IS THE OWNER OF MOST OF THE SOUTHERN 20 ACRES OF THIS PROJECT SITE.

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AND IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR US TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION AT THIS POINT, BOTH WITH THE PUBLIC AND WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WHICH WOULD BE THE FIRST REVIEW BODY FOR THE PROJECT.

SO I WANTED THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO BE AWARE THAT IS THE APPLICANT STARTS GOING THROUGH THIS PROJECT. THERE'S SOME ELEMENTS HERE THAT WE HAVE BEEN ENCOURAGING OF THEM, ONE OF WHICH IS A GREEN SPACE OR A PARK AREA THAT RUNS THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE 20 ACRES ON THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE PROJECT SITE AND CONNECTS THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD OF THE JOHN NOBLES NEIGHBORHOOD SOUTH OF JOHN NOBLES AVENUE.

THAT'S A THAT'S BEEN A GOAL OF OURS ALL ALONG.

WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS PROJECT DIDN'T TURN ITS BACK ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT RATHER EMBRACED IT.

AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO FURTHER PUBLIC INTEREST.

STILL ON. AND THE SO THE THAT IS AN ELEMENT OF THE PROJECT THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FROM THE BEGINNING, THERE'S A COUPLE OTHER AREAS HERE THAT WILL BE DISCUSSED AS WE GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION WITH THE APPLICANT.

I THINK THAT'S THE GIST OF WHAT I COVERED.

AND UNLESS SOMEBODY ELSE NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSING US FIRST, I THINK MR. HAGAN WANTED TO MAKE SOME INTRODUCTORY COMMENTS, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.

THANK YOU, MR. SCOTT. MR. HAGEN PLEASE COME UP TO THE PODIUM.

WELCOME. THANK YOU, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE CITY COUNCIL.

I'M PLEASED TO BE BACK UP HERE.

I HAVEN'T BEEN HERE FOR QUITE A WHILE ALL OVER ALL THE YEARS THAT WE'VE BEEN HERE.

I SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN THIS ROOM.

I ACTUALLY CAME OUT IN 1983 AND IT WAS STILL IN THE COUNTY WHERE THE POLO CLUB IS NOW.

AND WE STARTED WORKING ON, OF COURSE, EVENTS, EQUESTRIAN EVENTS, AND EVENTUALLY MOVED INTO ADDING CORPORATE EVENTS, SPORTS EVENTS, ART SHOWS, DOG SHOWS AND ALL THE THINGS THAT WE ENDED UP DOING. AND THEN, OF COURSE, IT CAME, I THINK WAS THE EARLY 90S WHERE THE ANNEXATION CAME UP.

AND WE WERE VERY INVOLVED IN MAKING SURE THAT THE CITY ANNEXED THAT PARTICULAR AREA AND THAT WE WERE IN INDIO INSTEAD OF IN LOOKING AT THE OUR STAYING IN THE COUNTY.

AND I THINK IT WAS A WISE MOVE ON OUR PART.

AND I HOPE THAT CITY INDIO FEELS THE SAME BACK AT LATER IN THE 90S, THE CITY ACTUALLY WAS WORKING IN UNTIL A DEAL TO TAKE OVER NOBLE'S RANCH.

IT WAS CONTENTIOUS.

AND THE MALL OWNER AT THE TIME, DAVID MILLER, GENTLEMAN ON MILLER'S OUTPOST, WANTED TO SELL. WE MADE A DEAL AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME TO GO AHEAD AND PURCHASE THE MALL.

UNFORTUNATELY, THERE WAS SOME POLITICS THAT GOT IN THE WAY.

THERE WAS AN ELECTION AND THE CITY BASICALLY DECIDED NOT TO GO AHEAD AND WORK WITH US.

AND SO WE PULLED OUT AND THAT WAS ABOUT 35 YEARS AGO.

IT WAS UNFORTUNATE BECAUSE AT THAT TIME WE HAD GREAT TENANTS THAT ENDED UP BEING IN LA QUINTA THEY ENDED UP BEING ON 111 AT COSTCO, ROSS DRESS FOR LESS, MARSHALLS, ALL OF THE BIG BOX TENANTS THAT COULD HAVE GONE IN A BUNCH OF THEM IN THAT AREA.

AND SO IT WAS KIND OF SAD TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED BECAUSE AFTER THAT TIME, THE MALL ITSELF WENT ON A DOWNWARD SPIRAL.

EVENTUALLY WE WERE ASKED TO LOOK AT IT BY THE CITY AND WE GOT IN AND DID SEVERAL YEARS AGO. I THINK ABOUT WHAT, CHRIS, THREE, ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO AND PURCHASED THE MALL AND IT WAS IN DIRE NEED OF ANY KIND OF HELP, EVEN JUST CLEANING THINGS UP, GETTING THE PUBLIC RESTROOMS TO WORK, GETTING LIGHT BULBS TO WORK, TURNING WATER BACK ON.

AND SO WE'VE DONE SOMETHING THERE JUST TO KIND OF CLEAN IT UP AND GET IT UP TO THIS PARTICULAR POINT. AT THAT TIME, WE STARTED TALKING AND WORKING WITH THE CITY RELATIVE TO WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE AND WHAT WE THOUGHT WE COULD DO RELATIVE TO PUTTING A REALLY FINE SHOPPING AREA BACK IN INDIO, WE REALIZED THAT WE'D HAVE TO SPECIALIZE IT AND DESIGN IT IN A SPECIAL WAY BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GO AHEAD AND PUT EVEN AT THAT TIME, WE KNEW A BIG BRICKS AND MORTAR FASHION TYPE OF A MALL AND THEY JUST DON'T AREN'T WORKING.

I THINK ALL OF THEM ARE IN TROUBLE.

AND SO WE TRIED TO GO AHEAD AND GET CREATIVE WITH OUR TEAM OF COMING UP WITH SOMETHING SPECIAL. AT THAT TIME, WE STARTED OFF WITH A FORTY ACRE, MUCH LARGER RETAIL MALL.

AND WE ALSO WE'RE WORKING WITH A THEATER WHILE THE WORLD CHANGED, AS YOU ALL KNOW.

AND SO WE REALLY HAD TO REDO OUR CONCEPT AND OUR THINKING.

AND WE'VE DONE SOMETHING NOW THAT WE THINK IS VERY EXCITING AND IT WILL REALLY MEET THE NEEDS OF INDIO, SOMETHING THAT THEY THE PEOPLE WOULD BE PROUD OF, SOMETHING THAT THE PEOPLE OF INDIO COULD USE.

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AND SO WE'VE KIND OF DESIGNED IT TO MEET THE NEEDS OF WHAT WE HAVE, EVEN DOWN TO A THING OF PUTTING SOME LARGE SCREENS IN THERE THAT WOULD LIVE STREAM.

SO EVEN WHEN CONCERTS ARE GOING ON OR A DOG SHOW OR A HORSE SHOW OR MAYBE WORLD SOCCER, THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY HAVE SOMETHING IN THAT ELEMENT TO GO AHEAD AND AND SERVICE THE PEOPLE AND MAKE IT A FUN PLACE TO GO TO, BECAUSE, AGAIN, WE ARE IN COMPETITION WITH OTHER MALLS AND OTHER SHOPPING AREAS UP AND DOWN THE VALLEY, AND OUR PEOPLE ARE EXCELLENT AT GOING AHEAD AND DESIGNING THINGS TO GO AHEAD AND MEET THE NEEDS OF THE PEOPLE.

IF YOU DON'T MEET THEIR NEEDS, THEY WON'T GO THERE.

SO WE'VE DONE, I THINK, AN EXCELLENT JOB THERE AND CHANGING THE DYNAMICS WORKING.

AND SO WE HAVE SOME RESIDENTIAL THAT WE HAVE SOME MULTIFAMILY WITH HOPEFULLY SOME HOTEL, MOTEL OR HOTEL TYPE OF OPERATIONS THAT WOULD BRING MORE PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY WE DO THE BIG CONCERTS AND THINGS THAT WOULD BRING THEM INTO DOWNTOWN INDIO AND AND THINGS THAT WOULD BASICALLY SUPPORT THE DOWNTOWN CORE.

WE KNOW IT'S BEEN YEARS AND AND WE'RE EXCITED BECAUSE THE CITY HAS FINALLY TURNED AROUND AND GOT DOWNTOWN TO COME BACK ALIVE WITH NEW HOUSING GOING IN THERE WITH THE COLLEGE OF THE DESERT, WITH THE HOSPITAL, ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING.

BUT REALLY, 111 IS THE ENTRY WAY TO DOWNTOWN.

AND TO GET SOMETHING THERE THAT WOULD BE EXCITING AND DYNAMIC AND PULL PEOPLE IN, WE THINK WOULD GO A LONG WAY TO NOT JUST IMPROVING THE ENTIRE 111 CORRIDOR IN IN IN INDIO, BUT IT WOULD FEED RIGHT INTO THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND MAKE A MAJOR, MAJOR DIFFERENCE AND BRING PEOPLE THAT OTHERWISE MIGHT NOT COME TO INDIO TENANTS THEN WOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE, THEY WOULD BE EXCITED ABOUT TAKING THEIR BUSINESS AND COMING TO INDIO, SO WITH ALL THAT IN MIND, WE'VE PUT TOGETHER, LIKE I SAY WITH OUR TEAM, I THINK A GREAT DESIGN AND CONCEPT WITH ALL OF THESE ELEMENTS INVOLVED.

AND NOW REALLY WE JUST NEED THE CITY, THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THE CITY COUNCIL TO GO AHEAD AND LET US KNOW THAT WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK.

MALLS AND SHOPPING CENTERS, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE IN THIS PANDEMIC ERA, ARE NOT EASY TO PUT TOGETHER. AND EVEN BEFORE THAT HAPPENED, THEY'RE VERY DIFFICULT RIGHT NOW.

IT'S MORE DIFFICULT BECAUSE TENANTS ACROSS THE BOARD HAVE EITHER GOTTEN IN TROUBLE AND EITHER DOWNSIZED OR GONE OUT OF BUSINESS ALTOGETHER.

NOW, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THAT MEANS THAT WHEN I GO TO SHOW A SPACE TO A TENANT, HE HAS OPTIONS.

HE CAN GO DOWN THE STREET A MILE AWAY, GOING TO LA QUINTA, GOING TO PALM DESERT, GO SOMEWHERE ELSE AND GO AHEAD AND TAKE OVER A SPACE THAT'S ALREADY BUILT OUT AND THAT THE LANDLORD PROBABLY WILL MAKE HIM A HELL OF A DEAL, MIGHT LESS AND PROBABLY THE COST OF US BUILDING A NEW PLACE TO PUT HIM IN THE EMPTY SPACE BECAUSE SO MUCH EMPTY SPACE OUT THERE.

IT'S A BUYER'S MARKET.

SO WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL HOW WE PUT THIS TOGETHER AND WE STRUCTURE IT AND WE NEED THE FULL SUPPORT OF THE CITY BEFORE REALLY I'M WILLING TO GO AHEAD AND PUT OUR FAMILY'S MONEY IN TO DO A MAJOR PROJECT LIKE THIS, BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MANY, MANY, MANY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AT RISK.

AND SO THAT WAS AN EXCELLENT THING ABOUT STARTING NOW EARLY ON WITH A CITY, WITH A PLANNING COMMISSION, THE CITY COUNCIL, TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK.

WE'RE GOING AHEAD WITH ONE WITH THE THEATER AND THOSE THINGS THAT WE MADE A QUICK U-TURN AND STOPPED WHEN WE SAW WHAT WAS HAPPENING.

WE COULDN'T DEAL WITH REGAL.

AND RIGHT NOW IT WOULDN'T MATTER BECAUSE THAT BUSINESS IS OUT OF BUSINESS AND PEOPLE ARE ARE IN TROUBLE THAT HAVE THEATERS IN THEIR PROPERTIES.

THEY'RE JUST THEY'RE NOT PAYING THE RENT.

THEY'RE NOT DOING BUSINESS. AND IT'S A PROBLEM.

SO WE DID A U-TURN.

WE WENT AHEAD AND WE STARTED THIS NEW PLANNING PROCESS THAT WE'RE DOING.

BUT AGAIN, WE NEED TO KNOW IN EARLY ON THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT CITY LIKES, THAT THEY SUPPORT AND THAT THEY'RE BEHIND US ON.

AND AGAIN, I DON'T WANT MY PEOPLE OR OUR COMPANY TO GO AHEAD AND GET IN AND DO SOMETHING.

IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, YOU DON'T WANT IT.

BUT WE NEED TO KNOW THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS SOMETHING THAT'S SUPPORTED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND EARLY ON, BECAUSE AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, EVEN DOING THESE PLANS AND HIRING ALL THE ENGINEERS AND ALL THE ARCHITECTS IS NOT AN INEXPENSIVE ELEMENT.

WE'VE PUT A LOT OF RISK CAPITAL UP EVEN TO BRING THIS TO YOU.

AND WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT IT, WE THINK.

AND THE PEOPLE WE'VE TALKED TO IN THE CITY SEEM TO BE EXCITED ABOUT IT ALSO.

BUT WE REALLY NEED TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE, LIKE I SAY, THERE'S A LOT OF CAPITAL RISK, THERE'S A LOT OF TIME, AND THAT GOES INTO IT.

AND ALSO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET ALL OF THE OTHER ELEMENTS THAT WE NEED TO KNOW THAT WE ARE ABLE TO GET THE TENANTS WITHOUT THE TENANTS.

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU HAVE AS A SHOPPING CENTER.

WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE LENDER IS SATISFIED AND COMFORTABLE THAT THEY WILL LEND MONEY TO GO AHEAD AND BUILD SOMETHING OUT LIKE THIS.

THERE ARE SOME ELEMENTS THAT ARE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.

AND IF IT'S SOMETHING THE CITY ISN'T FULLY BEHIND IT.

EXCITED AGAIN, I PERSONALLY NEED TO KNOW SOON BECAUSE WE CAN GO AHEAD AND GO TO OUR PLAN B OR C OR WHATEVER WE HAVE PLANNED.

SO SOMETHING DID GO SIDEWAYS.

YOU KNOW, WE COULD DROP BACK TO REALLY CLEANING UP, MAKING IT VERY NICE, PAINTING IT, CLEANING IT, PUTTING A NEW FRONT ON IT, REDOING THE INSIDE AND LEAVING THE MALL.

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AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.

AND WE WOULD HOPE THAT WE CAN GET SOME QUICK RESPONSES FROM THE CITY AND HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS LIKE WHAT WE'VE DONE SO FAR.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK TO YOU.

LIKE I SAY, IT'S BEEN SINCE NINETEEN EIGHTY THREE AND THIS IS MY HOME.

I MIGHT LEAVE IN OTHER PLACES, BUT THIS IS MY VOTING ADDRESS AND THIS IS MY HOME AND AND THIS IS WHERE I SPEND A MAJORITY OF MY TIME.

I LOVE THIS CITY. I LOVE THE PEOPLE HERE AND I'D LOVE TO BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING THAT IMPROVES THE CITY AND THAT YOU'RE ALL PROUD OF.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. HAGEN. SO, MR. [INAUDIBLE] YOU'RE GOING TO COME UP AND SAY A FEW WORDS, I AM I'M GOING TO JUMP INTO THE PRESENTATION HERE.

YOU TELL US WHO YOU ARE SO THAT THE PEOPLE IN MY, MY NAME IS CHRIS [INAUDIBLE], I AM PRESIDENT OF THE HAGAN COMPANY I WORK OUT OF AND HEAD UP THE OFFICE IN LOS ANGELES, WHEREAS THE WHICH IS THE CENTRAL CORE FOR OUR SHOPPING CENTER BUSINESS WHEN DESIGNING AND DEVELOPING SHOPPING CENTERS WITH THE HAGANS FOR A FEW DECADES NOW.

SO WE'RE PLEASED TO FINALLY GET TO THIS POINT WHERE WE CAN BRING THIS TO YOU.

AND WE'RE REALLY HERE TO SHARE OUR VISION WITH YOU.

AFTER DEALING THESE SEVERAL YEARS WITH THE STAFF AND WITH TALKING WITH OTHER PEOPLE AND OTHER COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY, SHAPED BY EVERYBODY'S OPINION.

AND WE'RE WELL, WE'RE HAPPY TO PRESENT IT TO YOU AND LOOKING FOR YOUR COMMENTS AND OR CHANGES, IF YOU LIKE ANY OR YOUR SUPPORT.

AND THIS IS A WORKSHOP, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WANT TO DO IT.

SO I'M GOING TO BE MOVING ALONG THROUGH THE PRESENTATION REALLY FAIRLY QUICKLY.

I'M AMENABLE. IF YOU WANT TO JUMP IN, I'M GOING TO FAST IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

IF YOU WANT ME TO SPEND A LITTLE MORE TIME ON SOMETHING, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO LET ME KNOW.

IT'S NOT A STRUCTURED PRESENTATION.

LET ME LET ME JUST SAY, I BELIEVE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THAT WE HAVE THE SLIDES FOR EACH OF THE BOARDS THAT WE'LL BE SHOWING.

YES. YES. PEOPLE AT HOME.

SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A MATTER OF US HAVING TO GET A CAMERA FOCUSED ON EACH INDIVIDUAL BOARD. BUT AS A RESULT, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO JUMP BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN BOARDS VERY QUICKLY. BUT SO I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO YOU'RE GOING TO GO AND MAKE THAT PRESENTATION.

IF IF YOU NEED TO MOVE TO THE BOARDS, WE'LL NEED TO GIVE YOU A MICROPHONE.

I'LL TRY TO DO THAT. I'LL TRY TO DO MOST OF IT FROM FROM THIS POINT.

I'VE GOT SOME I'VE GOT SOME HELP HERE TO HELP US.

SWITCH BOARD'S FOR THAT. WE'VE GOT WE DO HAVE A SLIDE PRESENTATION.

WE'LL JUMP INTO THAT.

I'VE ARRANGED IT. I GOT A NARRATIVE FOLLOWING THAT DOWN THROUGH THAT WE HAVE A MOUNTED.

EACH OF THE SLIDES IS MOUNTED ON A BOARD HERE.

IF ANY OF YOU WANT TO SEE IT MORE CLOSELY, YOU ARE AVAILABLE HERE.

YOU EACH HAVE A HARD COPY OF EACH OF THE SLIDES IN THE SPIRAL BOUND DOCUMENT AS WELL.

SO YOU CAN REFERENCE THAT AND EACH OF THE SLIDES IS NUMBERED.

SO IF YOU DO HAVE QUESTIONS AND YOU WANT TO WAIT FOR YOUR QUESTIONS TO LATER, JUST GO AHEAD AND REFERENCE THAT NUMBER ON THAT SLIDE.

WE CAN FLIP BACK TO IT LATER ON AS WE AS WE GET THROUGH THE QUESTIONS.

YEAH, I THINK WE'LL WE'LL MOVE OUR WAY THROUGH.

IS THERE ANYTHING MR. SNYDER NEEDS TO SAY BEFORE WE GET ROLLING ON THIS? I KNOW KEVIN'S IN BACK, BUT WE'LL DO THAT.

WE'LL ASK QUESTIONS. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING COMPELLING TO BREAK IN.

STOP THE WAY WE CAN GO THROUGH PEOPLE, WRITE DOWN THEIR QUESTIONS, THEN WE'LL DO IT.

WE'LL ANSWER THEM ALL THAT WAY IN CASE OTHER PEOPLE ARE THE SAME ONES THAT WE CAN GO THROUGH YOUR PRESENTATION, THE COMMUNITY CAN SEE IT, AND THEN WE CAN ASK YOU QUESTIONS OR GIVE YOU OUR FEEDBACK, PROBABLY MAKE THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY TO DO IT WITH THE TWO GROUPS.

I AGREE. LET'S LET'S JUMP INTO IT.

SLIDE ONE IS AN AREA TO JUST GIVE YOU ALL A REFERENCE OF THE THE INDIO MALL AND THE NOBLES RANCH ACREAGE OWNED BY THE CITY SOUTH OF THE MALL.

I'LL GOT A LITTLE POINTER HERE.

THERE'S A FEW THINGS ON THIS AERIAL.

I MEAN, YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA AND THERE ARE MANY YEARS.

SO YOU GET A LITTLE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE COMING FROM THE SATELLITE IMAGE HERE, SAYING, I WANT TO I WANT YOU TO I'M GOING TO POINT TO A FEW THINGS ON HERE THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO A MORE DETAILED REFERENCE LATER ON IN THE PRESENTATION.

BUT YOU'VE GOT HIGHWAY 111, OBVIOUSLY, [INAUDIBLE] TO THE EAST AND JOHN NOBLE'S AVENUE TO THE SOUTH. THE HAGAN COMPANY OWNS THEM ALL PROPERTY.

WE ALSO OWN THIS STRIP OF LAND ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY ALL THE WAY DOWN RUBIDO TO JOHN NOBLES, THE CITY.

AND YOU SEE THE WHITE DASH LINE IS BASICALLY THE PROPERTY AREA, THEIR PROJECT AREA FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT THAT WE HAVE BEEN PLANNING.

THE CITY OWNS THEIR CITY OWNED PARCEL.

IS THE VACANT LAND OUT HERE OFF TO TO THE SOUTH.

THERE'S ANOTHER PROPERTY OWNER OVER HERE THAT OWNS THE OLD EX DOLLAR TREE PROPERTY THAT HAS EXPRESSED WISH HIS WISHES TO COOPERATE WITH US IN THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THIS.

NOT QUITE WILLING TO SELL US HIS PROPERTY AT A REASONABLE PRICE, BUT SO WE HOPE TO WORK WITH HIM IN THE FUTURE. A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANT TO POINT OUT THE SITE AGAIN THAT WILL REFERENCE LATER. YOU'VE SEEN THIS GOTTSCHALK'S BUILDING ABUTS THE EXISTING HARBOR FREIGHT

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WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THAT IN OUR DESIGN.

ANOTHER IMPORTANT ELEMENT DOWN HERE IS THIS LITTLE PROTRUSION OF THE BUILDING TO THE SOUTH HERE. THAT IS GOING TO BE A PRIMARY AREA THAT WE WANT TO ADDRESS.

AND IT'S GOING TO BE A FOCAL AREA FOR THE REDESIGN OF THE PROJECT.

THE DRIVEWAY'S YOU SEE THE EXISTING DRIVEWAYS.

ONE OF THE KEY AREAS I WANT TO LOOK AT IS WHERE WE'RE LAS PALMAS COMES INTO MONROE DOWN HERE, WE'VE ALSO FOCUSED ON THAT AS PART OF OUR OUR DESIGN AS WELL, BELIEVING THAT TO BE A AGAIN, A CENTRAL WHERE WE'RE GOING TO CREATE ANOTHER ENTRANCE POINT INTO THE PROJECT FROM THERE, WHERE YOU CAN HAVE SOME CIRCULATION AND ACCESS FROM LAS PALMAS INTO THE PROJECT. AND BY DOING THAT, IT TAKES A TRAFFIC LOAD OFF OF THE MONROE AND 111 INTERSECTION. SO IF YOU CAN THINK OF PEOPLE TRYING TO COME TO THIS PLACE, EITHER ENTERING FROM THE WEST OR EXITING TOWARD THE WEST TO GET TO 111, THEY CAN AVOID THE 111 MONROE, WHICH WHICH HELPS SIGNIFICANTLY IN TRAFFIC CIRCULATION.

THE NEXT SLIDE THEN IS GOING TO BE OUR SITE PLAN AND AS SOON AS WE CAN CLICK IT TO THE NEXT SLIDE. THIS WILL START OFF THIS IS A THIS IS THE COMPREHENSIVE SITE PLAN FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT.

A LOT OF DETAIL, A LOT OF INFORMATION ON THIS SITE PLAN.

WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO MORE DETAIL LOOKS LATER ON IN THE PRESENTATION OF THIS SITE PLAN. BUT I WANT TO ORIENT YOU NOW TO WHAT HOW OUR THOUGHT PROCESS AND WHAT WE'VE WHAT LED US TO THIS PLAN.

OBVIOUSLY, IT WAS THE THE MIXED USE ELEMENT OF THE DESIGN THAT WE HAD BEEN FOCUSED ON FROM THE BEGINNING OF THIS PROJECT, WHICH INVOLVES THE RESIDENTIAL THAT WE'RE SHOWING NOW DOWN TO THE SOUTH ALONG JOHN NOBLE'S AVENUE.

WE'VE GOT A HOTEL ELEMENT HERE THAT WE WOULD LOVE.

WE THINK A HOTEL IN HERE WOULD JUST BE A GREAT ADDITION, A GREAT AMENITY TO THE PROJECT.

AND THE PROJECT WOULD BE A GREAT AMENITY TO ANY HOTEL OPERATOR.

WE BELIEVE WE'VE FOCUSED THE MAIN ACTIVITY OF THE MALL NOW TO THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE MALL RATHER THAN THE HIGHWAY 111 SIDE.

NORMAL DESIGN WOULD LEAD YOU TO HAVE YOUR FOCAL ACTIVITY ON YOUR MAIN STREET, WHICH IS HIGHWAY 111. BUT THE CONFIGURATION OF THIS PROJECT IS SO SHALLOW THAT THE BUILDINGS ARE SO SHALLOW TO ONE 11 THAT WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE GEOGRAPHY ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE MALL TO CREATE THE ACTIVITY THAT WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE HERE.

I REFERENCE HERE BACK TO THE OLD [INAUDIBLE] AND THE HARBOR FREIGHT OBSTRUCTION.

WE'VE NOW CUT OFF ABOUT OVER 20000 FEET OF THE [INAUDIBLE] BUILDING TO BE ABLE TO CREATE, CREATE A ROADWAY ACCESS.

SO NOW YOU HAVE INTERNAL ACCESS THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT BEFORE OBVIOUSLY THE THE DRIVERS WOULD HAVE TO IF THEY WANTED TO GET AROUND TO THE TO THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROJECT, THEY'D HAVE TO GO BACK OUT AND WANT TO COME BACK ON THE ROAD AND COME BACK INTO THE PROJECT FROM MONROE OR GO BACK TO THE BACK ALLEY OF THE EXISTING ALLEY OF THE PROJECT OF THE PROPERTY.

AND BUT THE CIRCULATION JUST MADE ALL THE SENSE IN THE WORLD.

YOU'LL SEE THE THIS THE SPINE OF THE CIRCULATION SPINE IN THE BACK OF THE PROJECT HERE THAT SEPARATES THE OLD MALL PROPERTY FROM THE JOHN NOBLE'S PROPERTY IS THAT'S THE BACK ALLEY TO THE RIGHT. THE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW, THAT SPINE, THAT ALLEY HAS TO REMAIN AN ACCESS POINT BECAUSE EVERY MAJOR UTILITY SERVING THE MALL, AS WELL AS CIRCULATION THROUGHOUT THE CITY RUNS ALONG THAT ALLEY.

AND IT'S UNFEASIBLE TO TRY TO RELOCATE THAT.

SO WE HAVE KEPT THAT SPINE, UTILIZE THAT SPINE AS A MAJOR CIRCULATION ELEMENT.

YOU'LL SEE AGAIN THAT WILL TIE INTO THE CIRCULATION THAT COMES AROUND AND DIPS AROUND TO THE SOUTH AND TO THE WEST AND MAKES THE CONNECTION TO LAS PALMAS.

THE PARK ELEMENT HAS IS A IS A CENTRAL FOCUS OF THIS HAS BEEN A CENTRAL TOPIC OF DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY FOR ALL THESE YEARS.

THE THOUGHT, AS MR. SCOTT REFERENCED, WAS TO USE THIS PARK ELEMENT TO BRING IN TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION TO THE RESIDENTIAL AREA, TO THE SOUTH OF THIS PROPERTY TO TO PROVIDE TO GIVE THEM SOME ATTENTION AND GIVE THEM ACCESS AND FRANKLY, THEIR CUSTOMERS FOR FOR THE MALL AND FOR THE PROJECT TO TO WALL THAT OFF, WHICH IS FORCE MAKE IT MAKE IT UNCOMFORTABLE AT THE AT THE LEAST FOR FOR THOSE FOLKS TO COME UP AND UTILIZE THE AMENITIES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PUT IN THE MALL

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OBVIOUSLY, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE CITY, THE THE PARK AREA IS IS OBVIOUSLY IT'S GOING TO BE AS CENTRAL A SPINE AS IT IS IN THE PROJECT.

WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING TO THE CITY AND WORKING WITH HOPEFULLY WORKING WITH THE CITY TO MAKE SURE THAT'S A SECURE AREA.

THE IDEA, AGAIN, IS THAT IS THAT THIS IS THE GATHERING AREA, MEETING AREA FOR THE CITIZENS, LOCAL CITIZENS, AS WELL AS IN OUR MIND, THE ENTIRE EAST VALLEY.

THE PARK, WE BELIEVE, ACTS AS AN AMENITY TO THE CENTER AND CERTAINLY AN AMENITY TO THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AMENITY, THE LOCAL CITIZENS.

AND IF YOU LOOK UP AT THE NORTH END OF THIS PARK, WE'VE CREATED AN AMPHITHEATER AREA UP HERE WITH THE IDEA THAT THIS, FRANKLY, COULD BE A LARGE ENTERTAINMENT VENUE.

IT'S ABOUT I BELIEVE IT'S A LITTLE OVER AN ACRE, 40, 50 THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.

THE IDEA IS TO BURM THE PERIMETER OF THIS AMPHITHEATER AREA TO ACTUALLY KIND OF CREATE A SEATING AREA WHERE YOU COULD HAVE EVENTS UP HERE UP THE MALL AS AS AN AMENITY TO THE FOR THE CITY TO, AGAIN, THE PROPERTY AND AND FOR THE MALL.

IF YOU'LL SEE HERE, YOU'RE JUST STARTING TO SEE THE FIRST LOOKS OF WHAT WE'RE.

PLANNING TO DO ON THE SOUTH END OF THE MALL TO BRING THE ENERGY INTO THAT AREA AND AND WE'LL GET THE FUTURE PICTURES WILL SHOW GIVE YOU A LITTLE BETTER PICTURE OF IT.

BUT WE'VE CREATED A WE'VE TAKEN THAT PROTRUSION OF THAT BUILDING THAT I POINTED OUT TO YOU ON THE AREA. AND NOW WE'VE CREATED A LARGE VOLUME SPACE THAT'S GOING TO BE OUR FOOD COURT SLASH FOOD HALL IN THE PROJECT.

AND WITH AND WITH OUTDOOR SEATING AND OUTDOOR ACTIVITY AREAS, WE'VE MAINTAINED THE MALL AS IS IN THE SHOPS INSIDE.

WE ARE GOING TO REDESIGN, REDEVELOP THE INTERIOR OF THE MALL.

WE ARE CREATING NEW ENTRANCES AROUND THE AREA, WHICH YOU'LL SEE A LITTLE LATER ON THE PARKING. OH, IS IS PRETTY MUCH SELF-EXPLANATORY.

AND SO I WILL GO INTO THAT TOO MUCH DEEPLY.

SO LET'S GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, IF WE CAN, LARRY.

AND THIS WILL BE A LITTLE A LITTLE A LITTLE PRETTIER PICTURE OF THE SITE PLAN WHERE WE'VE COLORED IN THE LANDSCAPE.

AND YOU START SEEING A BETTER DEFINITION OF, OH, LET ME LET ME TRY IT WITH THIS THEN.

OK. AGAIN, THIS IS A COLORED RENDERING, PRETTIER TO LOOK AT.

BASICALLY THE SAME ELEMENTS THAT YOU WERE LOOKING AT ON THE SITE PLAN RESIDENTIAL.

WE DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO INTERPOSE THAT RESIDENTIAL DESIGN THAT WAS ON THE SITE PLAN INTO THIS PLAN, RAN OUT OF TIME, RAN OUT OF IT, HAD CONSULTANTS COORDINATION.

BUT THIS IS ANOTHER KIND OF RESIDENTIAL CONFIGURATION THAT WE ACTUALLY STARTED WITH EARLIER ON IN THE PROJECT.

AGAIN, A LITTLE MORE DELINEATION OF THE PARK, THE AMPHITHEATER.

YOU START SEEING SOME OF THESE OUTDOOR ACTIVITY AREAS THAT WE'VE CREATED NOW ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE MALL, YOU'LL SEE THE ENHANCEMENTS AND THE IN THE PAVING UP ON THE NORTH END OF THE MALL THAT OUR DRIVEWAY APRONS DRESSING THAT UP, AS WELL AS THE MAIN DRIVEWAY ACROSS THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO THE MALL.

ONE OF THE FEATURES I WANT TO POINT OUT HERE TO JUST A LITTLE LITTLE LITTLE DETAIL THAT WE'VE INCLUDED IN THE PROJECT.

WE ALL KNOW HOW THE IN AND OUT IMPACTS THIS PARK.

AND HERE, EVERYBODY, IT'S PROBABLY BEEN THERE ONCE OR TWICE IN THEIR LIFE.

YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THE ACTIVITY WITH THIS, IF YOU'VE BEEN THERE BEFORE DURING THE HEAVY TIME PERIODS, THIS DRIVEWAY RIGHT NOW OPENS UP RIGHT INTO THE DRIVEWAY TO THE TO THE IN AND OUT. AND IT CREATES CONGESTION RIGHT OFF OF 111 ON THAT FREEWAY, ON THAT DRIVEWAY ENTRANCE. WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE TAKEN THE LANDSCAPE PLANTER, CREATED A LANDSCAPE PLANTER ABOUT ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY FEET IN LENGTH.

SO NOW WE'RE FORCING THOSE CUSTOMERS TO COME IN LIKE THEY'RE THEY'RE DOING PRETTY MUCH WITH THE THE STANCHIONS RIGHT NOW.

BUT FOR THOSE CUSTOMERS TO COME BACK HERE, START THEIR QUEUE RIGHT BACK HERE AND COME IN.

SO WE'RE TAKING THEM. WE ARE TAKEN TO THAT CIRCULATION CONFUSION OFF OF THAT DRIVEWAY, THE DRIVEWAYS WE'RE PROPOSING FOR THE PROJECT ALONG 111.

WE'RE PROPOSING TO USE THE EXISTING WHAT WE HAVE.

WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE WIDTH.

WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE DESIGN OF THOSE.

WE BELIEVE THE CIRCULATION THERE IS SUFFICIENT.

IN LAS PALMAS, YOU'LL SEE HERE, WE'VE CREATED A LARGE DRIVEWAY COMING IN TWO LANES OUT AGAIN. OUR ANTICIPATION IS WE'RE GOING TO SIGNALIZED THAT INTERSECTION AND TO CREATE THE THE ACCESS POINT FOR FOLKS COMING FROM THE SOUTH AND FROM THE WEST.

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AND AGAIN, ANOTHER ANOTHER A LITTLE BETTER VIEW OF THAT CORRIDOR OF THAT DRIVEWAY CIRCULATION BETWEEN HARBOR FREIGHT AND THE [INAUDIBLE] BUILDING.

NEXT ONE IS THE NEXT SLIDE IS A BLOW UP OF THAT AREA THAT I WAS JUST DESCRIBING TO YOU, MORE FOCUSED ON THE MALL.

AND NOW WE'LL START TAKING A LOOK AT THE ACTIVITY AREAS TO THE SOUTH OF THE MALL THAT WE HAVE PROPOSED FOR THIS.

AS MR. HAGAN HAVE MENTIONED IN THE PRESENTATION, WE'VE GOT REALLY TWO TO FORCES THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH ON THIS PROJECT.

ONE IS THE TENANTS GOING INTO THE PROJECT.

IT'S GOT TO BE ATTRACTIVE. IT'S GOT TO BE SOMETHING WHERE THEY BELIEVE THEY CAN DO BUSINESS, WHERE THEY BELIEVE WE ARE GOING TO ATTRACT THE TRAFFIC FOR THEM TO DO THE BUSINESS. AND THE SECOND FORCE IS THE CUSTOMER.

AND AGAIN, OUR VISUALIZATION FOR THIS PROJECT AND PARTICULARLY FOR THE SITE, IS THAT WE'RE THE FAMILY DESTINATION FOR THE EVERYDAY NEEDS OF THE INDIO CITIZEN AS WELL AS THE EAST VALLEY. WE WANT TO DRAW IN ARE OUR LEASING PRIORITIES ARE TO BRING SERVICES IN, TO BRING USES IN RETAILERS IN FOR THE EVERYDAY NEEDS OF THE CUSTOMER, CLOTHING, SOFT GOODS, SERVICES AND ENTERTAINMENT.

AGAIN, THE BIG ELEMENT HERE, YOU START GETTING TO SEE A BETTER PICTURE.

THAT PICTURE OF IT IS OUR FOOD COURT FOOD HALL.

AND THIS IS TAKING THAT BUILDING WHICH THAT ENVELOPE, WHICH IS ABOUT TWENTY THOUSAND TWENTY TWO THOUSAND FEET NOW GUTTING IT.

AND WE ARE YOU'LL SEE IN THE LATER RENDERING THE ELEVATIONS OF IT, BUT TAKEN THEIR TAKE ON THE CEILING OF THAT BUILDING AND UP TO ABOUT TWENTY EIGHT, 30 FEET, CLEAR HEIGHT.

AND SO IT'S JUST THE NIGHT AGAIN.

LATER ON YOU'LL SEE SOME.

SO WE'VE GOT SOME IMAGES OF THE VOLUME THAT YOU'LL SEE ON THAT SPACE, ON THE OUTDOOR ACTIVITY AREAS. WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING RIGHT NOW IS AS YOU GO OUTSIDE OF THE FOOD HALL, WE'VE GOT SEATING.

HARD TO SEE IN THIS UNLESS YOU GOT IT REAL CLOSE.

BUT WE'VE GOT SEATING AROUND HERE, HEAVY ON THE SHADE, HEAVY ON THE TRELLISES.

WE'VE GOT SEATING AGAIN OUT HERE FOR COMMON SEATING WITH UMBRELLAS AND OR KIND OF THE CIRCUS TENT TYPE OF OF SAILCLOTH.

SHADE IS OUR CONCEPT RIGHT NOW TO THE EAST OF THE THE MAIN SEATING AREA FOR THE FOOD.

ALL WE'RE GOING TO BE PROPOSING A CHILDREN'S PLAYS ON THIS IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE OF THE WATER FOUNTAIN THAT POPS UP OUT OF THE GROUND AND THE KIDS CAN BE RUNNING AROUND IT AND AND AND PLAYING AROUND IN THERE.

THEN THEY IN THE OFF SEASON WILL USE OTHER ACTIVITIES HERE FOR THAT TO BE KID FAMILY FRIENDLY. BUT SO THIS IS KIND OF OUR THIS IS KIND OF OUR CHILD'S PLAY AREA.

WE CALL IT THE AREA TO THE WEST OF THE FOOD HALL IS RIGHT NOW.

WE'RE CALLING OUR FLEX SPACE BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF OPEN TO THE MULTIPLE USES.

WHAT WE'VE SET UP RIGHT NOW, AND I HAVEN'T SHOWN AS AND YOU'LL SEE AGAIN A LITTLE LATER, IS A KIND OF A CONCERT AREA, PRESENTATION AREA PERFORMANCE AREA WITH SOME OPEN, OPEN AREA HERE. BUT SEATING ALL AROUND A SEATING CAN DOUBLE UP FOR PEOPLE, BRING IN FOOD OUT OF THE FOOD HALL, COME OUT HERE TO WATCH, YOU KNOW, WATCH A CONCERT OF A LOCAL MUSICIAN ON FRIDAY NIGHT OR SATURDAY NIGHT, SATURDAY AFTERNOON.

HE'LL THE THE DESIGN OF THE LANDSCAPED AREA DOWN HERE IS BASICALLY A SIMULATION OF A DATE GROVE. THESE ARE ALL DATE PALMS SPACED SUCH THAT THIS WILL BE A PRETTY MUCH ENTIRELY SHADED AREA WHERE THE WHERE THE HEADS OF THE OF THE PALM TREES, YOU KNOW, ALMOST TOUCH UP AGAIN PROVIDING SHADE.

AND AGAIN, YOU'LL SEE YOU'LL SEE AN IMAGE A LITTLE LATER ON, LATER ON OF THAT.

RIGHT NOW WE'RE PROPOSING IS SAID TO HAVE A D.G SURFACE.

SO IT'S LIKE AN OUTDOOR KIND OF PATIO AREA FOR AN OUTDOOR SEATING AREA.

YOU'LL START SEEING SOME OF THE DIVISIONS OF THE BUILDINGS.

YOU KNOW, UP HERE, A LOT OF THIS SIMULATES WHAT THE THE DEMISE OF THE SMALL SPACES.

WE ARE LOOKING AT VARIOUS DIFFERENT ORIENTATIONS AND FOR LEASING OF THE LARGE BOXES, THE OLD SEARS HERE AND THEN THE GOTTSCHALK'S HERE, THE WILL HAVE THESE TENANTS TO THE WEST SIDE OF THE GOTTSCHALK'S, MORE THAN LIKELY WILL FACE TO THE WEST, TO THE PARKING LOT AND SHARE THE PARKING LOT WITH THE WELLS FARGO, THE IN AND OUT HARBOR FREIGHT TO THE NORTH AND THE ADJACENT SHOPPING CENTER, THE SEARS PARCEL HERE.

WE'VE GOT A LARGE PARKING AREA TO THE EAST OF THAT WHERE WE ENVISION A LARGE USE THE PEOPLE TO TAKE CARE OF IT, TAKE TO OPEN TO THE EAST TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT PARKING.

ONE OTHER KIND OF FEATURE WITHIN HERE TO POINT OUT ONE OF THE THINGS WITH THIS FLEX SPACE

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AND I THINK THAT'S GOOD FOR THIS ONE AND THE NEXT THE NEXT SLIDES THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO IS IF THIS IS YOU'VE SEEN OUR OUR DESIGN IDEAS AND THOUGHTS NOW.

AND AND THE NEXT ELEMENT TO THIS IS GOING TO BE THE DESIGN ELEMENT FOR THE PROJECT AND TO GO ALONG WITH KIND OF THE ACTIVITY AND THE THE EXCITEMENT, THE FUN, THE FAMILY ATMOSPHERE, THE KID FRIENDLY.

WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO ON THE MALL IS TO BRING IN COLOR.

IT'S IT'S IT'S NOT YOUR NORMAL DESIGN FOR AN EXTERIOR OF BUILDINGS.

YOU'VE SEEN PLENTY OF RETAIL SHOPPING CENTERS AROUND AND BIG BOXES AROUND.

WE'VE ACTUALLY LOOKED AT THIS DESIGN.

WE ACTUALLY CAME UP WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS OF THE DESIGN OF THIS ENTRY, LOOKING AT IT FIRST. AND IT WAS JUST A LITTLE FLAT TO US AND THAT'S WHEN WE CAME THROUGH THE THOUGHT OF COLOR. SO THIS IS THIS IS ONE OF THE GOING TO BE OUR BIG DESIGN THEME THAT'S GOING TO BE GOING THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT INSIDE AND OUTSIDE.

AND THIS GIVES YOU THE LOOK AT THE AND THIS IS THE MAIN ENTRANCE FROM 111 THAT EXISTS TODAY. TODAY, THERE IS A BIG ROUND KIND OF AIRPLANE HANGAR, KIND OF OLD AIRPLANE HANGAR TYPE OF LOOKING OF ENTRANCE.

WE'VE TAKEN THAT OUT.

WE'VE TAKEN THE CEILING UP, THE GLASS UP ALL THE WAY UP TO THE TOP NOW, WHICH IS ABOUT THIRTY TWO FEET OUT OF THESE ELEMENTS FOR ARCHITECTURAL INTEREST.

AND THIS WILL BE THE MAIN FOCAL ENTRANCE.

THIS IS THE THE ENTRANCE TO THE EAST RIGHT NOW, NEXT TO THE SEARS BUILDING.

AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ALONG AND CONTINUE THIS DESIGN AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE PROJECT.

WHEN YOU WHEN YOU TAKE IT AROUND TO THE REAR OF THE PROJECT, THIS IS THE VOLUME IN THE SPACE THAT WE'VE CREATED FOR THE FOOD COURT FOOD HALL, THIS CLEAR HEIGHTH CEILING HERE AGAIN IS ABOUT 30, 30 FEET CLEAR INSIDE.

WE'VE BROUGHT GLASS IN FROM ALL THE SIDES TO JUST ILLUMINATE THE ENTIRE AREA.

YOU'LL START SEEING THE ELEMENTS, THE SHADE ELEMENTS OUTSIDE OF THAT ENTRANCE DOORS WITH LANDSCAPING. THAT IS OUR GOAL IS TO BRING IN A MATERIAL, BRING IN A PLANT MATERIAL THAT WE CAN CARRY INSIDE THE BUILDING.

SO YOU'VE ALMOST GOT KIND OF A SEAMLESS PATHWAY WALK THROUGH SO THAT THE INSIDE AND OUTSIDE START BLENDING TOGETHER.

WE'VE GOT THE SHADE TENT FABRIC MATERIAL HERE FOR SHADE AS WELL AS SEATING.

THIS IS AGAIN, THE SPILL OVER FOR THE FOR THE FOOD COURT SEATING.

THIS IS THAT SPINE THAT AN ENTRY SPINE THAT I MENTIONED TO YOU, THE DRIVEWAY DOWN AT THE BOTTOM HERE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, WHERE ALL THE UTILITIES ARE AND THEN THE PARK IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS THE NEXT SLIDE.

THIS GIVES YOU A LITTLE AERIAL PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FRONT AND BACK AGAIN. YOU'LL SEE THE ACTIVITY AREAS ON EAST AND SOUTH, EAST AND WEST SIDES HERE.

YOU'LL SEE HOW THE EXTERIOR SEATING AREA FOR THE FOOD HALL FOOD COURT WORKS.

AND YOU GET A LITTLE FEEL FOR THE, AGAIN, THE ENTRY ELEMENTS THAT WERE POPPING UP THINK KEEP THAT CONTINUITY AND YOU'RE STARTING TO SEE THAT.

YOU'LL SEE THE EFFECT OF THE COLOR THAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR THE BUILDING FACE OF THE OTHER THING WE'RE DOING THROUGH HERE RIGHT NOW.

THESE ARE THE EXISTING SKYLIGHTS IN THE MALL.

WE'RE GOING TO PLAN ON MAKING CLEAR SKYLIGHTS OUT OF THEM TO BRING IN THE FULL ULTRAVIOLET SPECTRUM SO THAT IT CAN ACTUALLY SUPPORT PLANT MATERIAL INSIDE THEM ALL.

THE TRANSLUCENT FIBERGLASS MATERIAL THAT'S IN HERE NOW DOESN'T PROVIDE ENOUGH LIGHTING PLANTS, JUST DON'T SURVIVE INSIDE THE ALTHOUGH WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN BRINGING IN LIVE PLANTS INTO THE INTERIORS MALLS IN THE PAST WITH SEVERAL MODELS THAT WE'VE WORKED ON, EVEN WE GOT TO A POINT AND ONE ONE OF OUR MALLS WHERE THE PALM TREES GREW UP THROUGH THE SKYLIGHT, WE ACTUALLY HAD TO CUT THEM DOWN AFTER ABOUT EIGHT YEARS BECAUSE THEY LIKE THE ENVIRONMENT SO, SO MUCH.

AGAIN, DRIVEWAY JUST TO ORIENT YOU AMPHITHEATER ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE DRIVE.

NEXT PRESENTATION, THIS IS THE WHAT WE WOULD CALL THE FLEX SPACE WITH THE ENTERTAINMENT AREA. THIS IS THE TV SCREEN MR. HAGAN MENTIONED.

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NEXT SLIDE, THIS SHOWS THE THE KIDS PLAY AREA.

AND IT GIVES YOU A GOOD PERSPECTIVE OF THE DATE GROVE CONCEPT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO BRING INTO HERE. AGAIN, PICNIC SEATING, COMFORTABLE, COMFORTABLE AREA, FAMILY ORIENTED.

YOU BUY YOUR FOOD IN THE FOOD HALL, COME OUT HERE, EAT IT WHILE THE KIDS ARE KIDS ARE OUT PLAYING IN THE SPLASH ZONE.

NEXT SLIDE. NOW WE'RE GOING TO START TAKING A LOOK AT THE FOOD HALL FOOD COURT AREA AGAIN VERY EARLY ON IN OUR CONCEPTUAL DESIGN STAGES OF THIS.

BUT THIS GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF OF THE FLOOR PLAN THAT WE'VE THAT WE WERE PROPOSING.

AND IT GIVES YOU THE IDEA OF THE VOLUME IN THE SPACE.

IT'S, YOU KNOW, 30 FOOT TALL IS A GREAT, GREAT SIZE MEETING AREA WITH ALL THE LIGHT THAT WE'RE BRINGING IN. WE'RE VERY EXCITED.

THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A REALLY LIVELY AREA.

AGAIN, MY COMMENT INITIALLY ON THE DESIGN OF THIS, THAT IN MY MIND, THIS WAS THIS WAS A LOW ON THE VANILLA SIDE.

WE WANT TO BRING IT UP A LITTLE MORE TO THE IRAQI ROAD IN THE TUTTI FRUTTI TO MAKE IT FUN AND EXCITING AS WE START DEVELOPING OUT, AS WE START BRINGING DETAIL, AND AS WE START BRINGING KIND OF THE THE INDIVIDUAL FOOD OPERATORS IN HERE ARE PUTTING THEIR OWN THEIR OWN TOUCH ON THE DESIGN OF THEIR SPACE.

WE SHOW I THINK WE'VE GOT 11 FOOD TENANTS, A COUPLE OF KIOSKS IN THE CENTER OF THAT AREA.

THE IDEA, AGAIN, EVERY DAY OF EVERY ONE OF EVERY FOOD TYPE THAT WE COULD BRING IN.

I'D LOVE TO HAVE A TEQUILA TASTING BAR HERE.

I'D LOVE TO HAVE THE WINE BAR HERE.

WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING AFTER ALL OF THAT WITH OUR LEASING EFFORT AND AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MIX. WE ENVISION THAT OR IMAGINE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MIX OF OF SOME KNOWN FOOD TENANTS THAT WILL COME IN HERE.

BUT WE'RE ALSO EXPECT AND ARE PLANNING ON WITH THE DESIGN TO HAVE SOME OF THESE SPACES BUILT OUT SO THAT YOU CAN BRING THESE YOU CAN START BRINGING THESE INCUBATION FOOD AND BRING SOME OF THESE FOOD TRUCK GUYS IN THAT ARE JUST WANT TO WANT TO REACH OUT, START THEIR FIRST, YOU KNOW, KIND OF BRICK AND MORTAR LOCATION.

YOU'RE SEEING IT AND HEARING ABOUT IT ALL AROUND THE THE THE BUSINESS.

AND WE'VE YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THE LOCAL FOOD TRUCK OPERATOR HERE. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF EVENTS HERE AND THEY'VE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL.

FOOD OPERATORS, LOVE, COME AND LOVE COMING TO THOSE EVENTS.

SO WE'RE HOPING TO PICK OFF A FEW OF THEM AND BRING THEM IN HERE.

IT'S A FINANCIAL, YOU KNOW, GAMBLE FOR US BECAUSE WE'RE INVESTING A LOT IN THESE IN THESE TO BRING THESE PEOPLE IN HERE.

AND YOU NEVER KNOW IF THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE IT OR NOT MAKE IT.

BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, PART OF OUR VISION.

LAST PICTURE OF THE FOOD HALL FROM A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE, AGAIN, GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF THE VOLUME, GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF HOW THE SEATING COULD BE DONE IN CENTRAL KIOSKS THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, IN THE CENTER THERE.

NEXT SLIDE, THIS IS A THIS IS AN OVERALL RENDERING, A LITTLE SMALL BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO SQUEEZE A LOT OF A LOT OF LENGTH INTO THESE IMAGES.

BUT THE TOP IMAGE IS THE IMAGE OF THE ENTIRE FRONTAGE OF THE MALL FACING 111 MAIN ENTRANCE HERE THAT YOU SAW EARLIER, THE CLOSE UP OF THAT'S THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO THE MALL NOW. AND THE SEARS BUILDING STARTS RIGHT ABOUT HERE, RIGHT ABOUT WHERE THOSE PALM TREES ARE. AND IT GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN TO SHOWS TO TENANTS AND HOW WE WOULD TREAT THE FACADE FOR THOSE TWO TENANTS IF WE PUT THEM IN HERE.

GOTTSCHALK'S BUILDING IS THIS BUILDING DOWN OVER HERE.

WE'VE GOT THE EAST ELEVATION SIDE OF THE SEARS BUILDING, WEST ELEVATION PORTION OF GOTTSCHALK'S THAT FACES MONROE.

AND THEN THIS WOULD BE THE ELEVATION OF THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE MALL.

AGAIN, THE SEARS BUILDING BEING OVER HERE.

LASTLY, PART OF THE THE TASK AND THE GOAL OF OF THE COMPREHENSIVE DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT FOR THE ENTIRE PROPERTY, FOR THE ENTIRE 40 ACRES IS TO BRING A RESIDENTIAL ELEMENT INTO

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AND WE THINK THERE'S A WE THINK THERE'S A NEED AND A DEMAND IN THIS TOWN FOR RESIDENTIAL, WHERE WE'VE PARTNERED UP WITH MR. DAVID SCHULMAN FOR THE RESIDENTIAL ELEMENT BACK HERE.

WE'VE KNOWN DAVID FOR A LONG TIME.

YOU KNOW HIM NOW FROM THE DOWNTOWN RESIDENTIAL AT OASIS AND BLISS.

AND THIS IS OUR FIRST BLUSH AT THE WHAT WE'LL CALL THE MASSEN FOR THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS BACK HERE. AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE GOING TO ASK AS PART OF THIS PROCESS IS THAT THE CITY ALLOW US TO GO UP FOUR STORIES, AND THAT'S UNUSUAL AND A LITTLE BIT OUT OF THE BOX FOR WHAT EVERYONE'S USED TO.

BUT IT DRIVES IT'S DRIVEN BY SEVERAL DIFFERENT IN MR. SCHULMAN CAN ANSWER BETTER THAN I CAN, BUT SEVERAL DIFFERENT FORCES AGAIN.

ONE IS, IS TO DEMAND IT ALLOWS US TO GET THE THE DENSITY OF THE RESIDENTIAL ON THIS PROPERTY. AND IT BRINGS IT ALLOWS US TO GET THAT DENSITY, WHICH HELPS THE MALL AND HELPS EVERYTHING ELSE HERE. BUT WHAT IT ALSO ALLOWS IS YOU CAN GET THE NUMBER OF UNITS IN AND IT GIVES YOU MORE GREEN SPACE AND OPEN SPACE IN BETWEEN IT.

BY GOING UP RATHER THAN OUT, YOU CAN YOU CAN FOCUS A LITTLE MORE ON THE LANDSCAPE AMENITIES, THE PARK AMENITIES, THE CITY AND AREAS WITHIN THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

THIS SHOWS A COUPLE OF, AGAIN, HOW THEY HOW THE RESIDENTIAL AREA IS ONE OF THE SENSITIVITIES, OBVIOUSLY.

AND WE'VE GOT A LOT OF DISCUSSION TO GO THROUGH WITH THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION AND EVERYBODY ELSE IS THE SENSITIVITY TO HAVING THAT TYPE OF HEIGHTH AND THE RESIDENTIAL TOWARDS JOHN NOBLE'S.

WE'VE DISCUSSED THAT ALREADY.

PLANNING STAFF HAS BROUGHT THAT.

THAT'S AN IMPORTANT ISSUE TO DISCUSS.

AND WITH THAT, WE WOULD WE WOULD WANT TO FOCUS THE THE THE HIGH THE TALLER RESIDENTIAL UNITS CLOSER TO THE MALL ON THE MALL SIDE AND PROBABLY STEP UP THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY AS YOU AS YOU MOVE AS YOU MOVE TO THE NORTH OF THE RESIDENTIAL AGAIN, YOU SEE THAT THE THE HOW IT INTERRELATES WITH THE PARK.

WE THINK IT'S A GREAT, AGAIN, CUSTOMER BASE FOR THE MALL PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO WALK ACROSS TO THE MALL FOR THE FOOD, FOR THEIR FOR THE CLOTHING, FOR THEIR SHOPPING.

THEY WANT TO WALK A LITTLE FURTHER.

THEY CAN GO TO THE GROCERY STORE ACROSS THE STREET.

SO THIS GIVES YOU THAT PERSPECTIVE.

AND THIS IS THE FINAL PERSPECTIVE THAT WE HAVE FROM THE LOOK IN FROM THE SOUTH TO THE NORTH SIDE IN THIS PARK, OUR THAT'S OF THIS PARK.

AND WITH THAT, I THINK I'VE GONE EVERYTHING GONE THROUGH EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE THOUGHT OF THROUGH THIS PROCESS. AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS.

GO BACK, LOOK AT ANY OTHER SLIDES THAT YOU MAY BE INTERESTED IN.

IT'S OPEN TO YOU NOW. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OH, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

OK, MR. MAYOR, I JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, I HAVE, AS I MENTIONED BY DAVID SCHULMAN, THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPER HERE.

SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR HIM, HE'S HERE TO ANSWER THEM.

WE ALSO HAVE OUR DESIGN DIRECTOR FOR NEEDELL ARCHITECTURE HERE, MR. ANTHONY SANCHEZ. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DESIGN, SOME OF THE THOUGHTS BEHIND IT AND THAT THAT YOU WANT TO HEAR THE ARCHITECT ADDRESS, WE'RE AVAILABLE.

WE HAVE THAT AVAILABLE FOR YOU. ALSO TO THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR. VERY, VERY EXCITING.

AND I'LL GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FIRST.

BUT THAT'S WHAT THE RECORD REFLECT THAT NIKO USANA JOINED US FOR OUR MEETING, OUR PLANNING COMMISSIONER. AND THEN MR. SALEHA HAS LEFT AT FIVE FIFTY FIVE.

SO THAT JUST SO LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT.

I KNOW THAT CHAIRMAN FRANZ, HERE YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

OK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, FIRST OF ALL, I I KNOW THAT THERE HAD TO BE A QUICK PIVOT BECAUSE OF COVID AND THE WAY THE WORLD HAS SHIFTED IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS.

SO I'M VERY IMPRESSED YOU GUYS BROUGHT THIS BACK SO QUICKLY.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS BEEN WORKING ON IS WE WANT SOMETHING VIBRANT, SOMETHING NEW.

SO THE COLOR IS PERFECT.

THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING THAT WE NEED WITHIN OUR CITY.

SO I REALLY ENJOY THAT.

A COUPLE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT WHEN WE CAME THROUGH WAS THE MALL DOESN'T REALLY HAVE A BACKSIDE THE WAY IT'S BEEN DESIGNED.

THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT, THERE'S BOTH SIDES ARE LIKE FRONTS.

SO WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT FOR LIKE DELIVERY VEHICLES AND AND MAINTENANCE AND, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO RUN A BUSINESS? IS THERE? HOW IS THAT GOING TO BE SHIELDED IN A WAY THAT THE MALL DOESN'T HAVE A FRONT OR A BACK? THE SHORT ANSWER IS IT IS GOING TO BE SHIELDED.

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WE'VE ACTUALLY STARTED SOME STUDIES OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING THAT.

AND WE'VE WHERE SOME OF OUR TRASH AREAS WE'RE LOOKING AT, WE ARE ACTUALLY TAKING A PIECE OUT OF THE OUT OF THE SEARS BUILDING AND OUT OF THE GOTTSCHALK'S BUILDING TO CREATE A TRASH AREA INSIDE THE BUILDINGS AND AND THE CREATE THE CORRIDOR AND THE THE PATHWAY TO GET FROM THERE TO WHERE THE TRASH TRUCK AND DRIVE UP TO DELIVERY TRUCKS.

WE'VE GOT TO SPACE OUT.

WE'RE GOING TO BE STEALING PARKING FROM A COUPLE OF THOSE PARKING AREAS IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE ISD ON EITHER SIDE OF THOSE ACTIVITY AREAS THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT FOR DELIVERIES. WE'VE CREATED A REAR CORRIDOR ELEMENT FOR THE FOOD HALL FOOD COURT TENANTS THAT WILL OPEN UP KIND OF PRETTY MUCH AT THE POINT OF CONNECTION OF THE SEARS BUILDING IN THE MALL. THAT'LL BE A REAR CORRIDOR AGAIN, B BEHIND EVERYBODY WHO WE'VE ACTUALLY PROPOSED ON THE AT THE KIDS PLAY AREA BECAUSE WE WERE HAVING DIFFICULTY DEVELOPING A CORRIDOR THERE. WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY BUILD A NEW WALL, A NEW SCREEN WALL, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY FOUR OR FIVE FEET OUT FROM THE EXISTING BUILDING TO BE ABLE TO SCREEN THAT KIND OF BACK OF HOUSE ACTIVITY AND DELIVERY AND MOVEMENT FROM THERE.

THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT FOR THE FOOD AROUND THE SOUTHERN AREA THERE WOULD REQUIRE US TO HAVE FULL TIME PARTNERING SERVICE.

SO WE'VE KNOW JUST LIKE A FOOD MALL, FOOD COURT IN A MALL, WHICH WE'VE HAD A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH, YOU CAN HAVE A FULL TIME PARTNER AND ONE OF OUR YUPPY.

I KNOW ONE OF THE HALLMARKS OF THE HAKEN COMPANY, AND YOU MAY HAVE SEEN IT, TOO, IS CLEANLINESS. AND SO WE'RE WE'RE VERY BIG ON THE PARTNERING AND THE AND THE AND THE TRASH CLEAN UP WITHIN THOSE AREAS.

BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE HAVEN'T DEVELOPED ALL OF THOSE YET, BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ON THE YOU KNOW, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROADWAY AND MIDDLE OF THE DRIVE IN FOCAL POINTS, THEY'RE GOING TO BE SOMEHOW BUILT WITHIN THE ACTUAL MALL ITSELF.

SO YOU WON'T SEE IT AS A CUSTOMER, CORRECT? WE MAY HAVE. THERE MAY BE SOME AREAS AS NOW WHERE WE HAVE A REMOTE TRASH DUMPSTER AREA, BUT IT WOULD BE WITH THE TYPICAL WALL AND OR ON IT WHILE UNSHIELDED AND THE SHIELDS THEY HAVE SEALED. IT DEFINITELY WOULDN'T WOULDN'T BE THEY WOULD NOT BE VISIBLE.

OK, THANK YOU. THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS AND COMPLIMENTS.

I THINK THE THE PARK AREA IS BEAUTIFUL.

I LIKE THAT IDEA THERE.

I LIKE THE ABILITY OF PEOPLE TO LIVE THERE AND SHOP THERE, WHICH IS WHAT WE WE REALLY NEED. AND I HAD ONE MORE QUESTION AND THEN I'LL MOVE ON TO MY COMMISSIONERS.

THE THE SPACING IS GORGEOUS WITH THE BIG COLORS AND THE PALM FRONDS.

WHEN YOU WHEN IT SAYS TENNANT, RIGHT NOW, IT'S LIKE A WHITE COLOR THAT ALMOST KIND OF BLENDS IN. BUT I'M ASSUMING TENANTS ARE GOING TO WANT TO HAVE SOME KIND OF SIGNAGE.

SO I HOPE THAT AS THIS GETS DEVELOPED THAT THE SIGNAGE DOESN'T OVERPOWER, I GUESS, THE BEAUTY OF THE OF THE WHOLE IMAGE OF THE BACK OF THE WALL.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE JUST KIND OF KEEP AN EYE ON.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SIGNAGE IS ARE GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

AND I'M SURE YOU PROBABLY DON'T HAVE ALL THAT WORKED OUT YET.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T OVERPOWER AND TAKE OVER THE DESIGN AND THE BEAUTY OF THE OVERALL BUILDING.

YEAH, YOU'VE HIT ON YOU'VE HIT ON A GREAT DEBATE WITHIN OUR COMPANY, BETWEEN OUR LEASING GUYS AND THE DESIGN GUYS.

AND YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

THE AND IT GOES BACK TO THOSE TWO FORCES THAT DRIVE THIS PROJECT, ONE OF THEM BEING GETTING TENANTS IN HERE THAT WANT TO BE HERE AND AND FEEL COMFORTABLE DOING BUSINESS.

AND FOR EVERY TENANT OUT THERE AND ONE HUNDRED PERCENT ACROSS THE BOARD SIGNAGE IS ONE OF THEIR PRIMARY FOCUS.

AND THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THOSE SIGNAGE ACROSS THERE TO ADVERTISE TENANTS NOT NECESSARILY ACTUALLY BEHIND THAT WALL, BUT TENANTS WITHIN THE WITHIN THE MALL ITSELF AND AND THE LARGER TENANTS, THE NATIONAL TENANTS, THE BIGGER GUYS ARE GOING TO DEMAND THOSE SINDEN SIGNS. AND THOSE ARE PRETTY MUCH BE EARMARKED FOR THEM THE RIGHT BEFORE THE MEETING TONIGHT OF TALKING TO THE ARCHITECT AGAIN ABOUT HOW WE HANDLE THE SIGNAGE AGAINST THE COLOR OF THE FACADE THAT WE WANT TO BRING IN FOR THE VISIBILITY OF THE SIGNAGE.

NIGHTTIME VISIBILITY IS A NO BRAINER DURING THE DAY, FRANKLY, THE SIGNAGE IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE OVERWHELMED BY THE FACADE.

SO THE FACADE IS GOING TO TAKE PRECEDENCE, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

DON'T TELL THE RETAILERS THAT.

BUT THAT'S MORE LIKELY WHAT WILL HAPPEN.

AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO DO ATTRACTIVE LIGHTING, HALO LIGHTING, EXCELLENT LIGHTING, YOU KNOW, BORDER LIGHTING FOR THOSE NIGHTS.

AND THEN I'M SORRY TO GO OFF ON A TANGENT AGAIN, BUT THAT'S ONE THING I DIDN'T BRING UP IN THIS. AND IF YOU'VE BEEN TO THE EMPIRE POLO FIELDS AT NIGHT, YOU'LL SEE THE LIGHTING THAT

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I MEANT TO MENTION THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE A HUGE ELEMENT FOR OUR DESIGN FOR THIS PROJECT IS THIS THING IS GOING TO SPARKLE AT NIGHT, ESPECIALLY THE ACTIVITY AREAS BACK THERE WITH THE PALM TREES WE'VE GOT WE'VE GOT A LOT TO PLAY WITH.

SO WONDERFUL. THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT I THINK I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THIS IS CONCEPTUAL AND IT'S KIND OF EARLY, BUT BICYCLE LANES, WALKING PATHS, YOU KNOW, FROM ONE END OF THE MALL OR THE SHOPPING AREA TO THE OTHER THAT ARE WELL LIT AND PEOPLE WILL FEEL COMFORTABLE WALKING EVEN AT NIGHT, BECAUSE IF THIS IS GOING TO BE GORGEOUS TONIGHT, WE WANT PEOPLE TO COME HERE AND TRY THE TEQUILA BAR OR THE WINE BAR OR THE RESTAURANT OR WHATEVER IS THERE.

SO I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE KEEP THAT, YOU KNOW, WHILE LIVE AND IN A WAY THAT MAKES SENSE FOR PEOPLE TO GET FROM ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER WITHOUT HAVING TO MOVE THEIR CAR, MAYBE. ABSOLUTELY.

SO WONDERFUL. I WANT TO GO AHEAD AND INVITE MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS TO SEE IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? OK, SO I GREW UP BEHIND THE MALL, SO THIS IS A LITTLE PERSONAL AND SENTIMENTAL FOR ME.

I REALLY LOVE THE COLORS IT BRINGS BACK WITH THE ORIGINAL MALL.

WHEN YOU WOULD WALK IN ON THE TOP, THERE WAS THIS KIND OF LIKE KALEIDOSCOPE THAT REALLY REMINDS ME OF THAT KIND OF WAS IT A GLASS KIND OF ROSE GLASS UP ON TOP.

SO, AGAIN, I WOULD WANT TO AGAIN COMPLIMENT ON THE COLORS.

I LOVE THE PARK SPACE AND BEING ABLE TO CONNECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE MALL.

THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS THE HOUSING THAT'S GOING BEHIND.

IS THAT GOING IS THAT AN APARTMENT LIKE OR IS IT CONDOS? IS IT AFFORDABLE HOUSING? IF IT IS, WE LOOKED AT PARTLY IT'S INTENDED TO BE MARKET PRICE RENTALS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S UP THERE WILL BE UP TO REALLY THE ENVIRONMENT, THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT FOR FOR THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPER AT THE POINT IN TIME WE BOUGHT IT.

BUT RIGHT NOW, ITS MARKET RATE RENTAL IS WHAT WE ENVISION.

OK. A MARKET RATE APARTMENTS, OK? AND AGAIN, AGAIN, WANT TO COMPLIMENT ON THE RESTAURANTS I KNOW AND IN ENGLISH, SOME OF US HAVE TO KIND OF GO OUTSIDE OF INDIO TO GO HAVE TO GET SOME JUST DIFFERENT TYPES OF ASIAN MARKETS OR PALM SPRINGS.

SO I REALLY LIKE THAT CONCEPT OF HAVING A HUGE OUTDOOR THE FOOD COURT.

SO THOSE ARE REALLY MY QUESTIONS.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

DO ANY OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY COMMENTS OF THE COMMISSIONER, RODRIGUEZ SOHA? REALLY EXCITED TO SEE SOME INTEREST IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA.

I KNOW THAT FOR A LONG TIME I GO EAT BURGERS THERE ALL THE TIME AND I DRIVE THROUGH THAT BACK LOT AND I CAN SEE THE NEED FOR THAT TO BE ADDRESSED.

I DO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS, ACTUALLY.

THERE'S A LOT OF PARKING, AS I COULD IMAGINE, TO BE ABLE TO SERVE AS MANY PEOPLE.

SO THAT MEANS MORE CARS.

SOMETHING THAT I HAD PERSONALLY BROUGHT UP BEFORE IN ONE OF OUR MEETINGS WAS THE IDEA OF CARBON SEQUESTERING THROUGH THE LANDSCAPE DESIGN.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL WOULD BE INTERESTED OR AVAILABLE TO DO? JUST THINKING ABOUT THE LONG TERM SUSTAINABILITY OF THIS AND THE IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENT, THE THINKING ABOUT HOW WHAT WE'RE PUTTING FORWARD AS FAR AS PROJECTS ARE CONCERNED IN OUR CITY, THAT THEY'RE ENVIRONMENTALLY CONSCIOUS ALONG WITH, YOU KNOW, COUPLING WITH ALL THE WONDERFUL BENEFITS THAT SOME A PROJECT LIKE THIS WOULD BRING TO OUR CITY. SO THAT WOULD BE MY FIRST QUESTION, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU MIGHT ALL BE INTERESTED AND AVAILABLE TO YOU.

AND THEN ALSO, I SAW THAT YOU DID HAVE SOME SHADING OPTIONS, THOSE PALM TREES THAT YOU HAVE. I'M WONDERING IF IF AND THIS IS JUST CONCENTRATED ON THE LANDSCAPE DESIGN ASPECT OF IT, IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER OPTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE CONSIDERED THAT MIGHT STILL BE ESTHETICALLY PLEASING, BUT WOULD ALSO PROVIDE MORE SHADE AND ALSO JUST DEPENDING ON WHAT MATERIAL THAT THAT THAT THE MATERIAL IN RELATION TO WHERE THE CROSSWALK IS.

I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLORE POTENTIAL TREES OR OTHER OPTIONS THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT DURING THE SUMMER.

YOU KNOW, NO ONE NO ONE WANTS TO HANG OUT OUTSIDE.

NO ONE WANTS TO HANG OUT UNDER THOSE BENCHES.

AND SO WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST IF SOMETHING.

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I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S ANY SORT OF LIKE PEDESTRIAN PROTECTION THAT WOULD NOT BLOCK ANY SORT OF EMERGENCY ACCESS.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IS ALSO BEING THOUGHT OUT OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN INCLUDE? AND THOSE ARE REALLY MY ONLY OBSERVATIONS AT THIS MOMENT TO ADDRESS THE FIRST QUESTION REGARDING ENVIRONMENTAL ASPECTS, WHERE, AGAIN, WE'RE DEALING WITH THAT, WITH THAT SECOND FORCE THAT I TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, THAT'S THE CUSTOMER.

AND WE'RE STILL WE'RE STILL A MOBILE POPULATION.

SHOPPING CENTERS STILL REQUIRE THE CITY STILL REQUIRE PARKING AT A RATIO PERGOLA.

SO YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO GET RID OF THAT.

WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO DO HERE IS WE DO HAVE THE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION OUT FRONT ON HIGHWAY 111 AND WE'VE GOT THE THE NECESSARY PEDESTRIAN PATH FOR THAT CONNECTION.

BUT THE OTHER THING WE'VE DONE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NOTICED THAT I DIDN'T POINTED OUT DURING THE PRESENTATION, BUT ON THE SOUTH SIDE, ALONG THE PARK AREA THERE, I FORGET WHAT SLIDE NUMBER THAT IS, BUT YOU'LL SEE AN INDENTATION IN THE PARK THERE.

AND THE IDEA THERE IS IS FOR A NICE HERB, YOU KNOW, OVER LIFT TYPE OF DROP OFF PICK UP AREA. SO OBVIOUSLY WITH THE RESTAURANTS AND AS MANY PEOPLE AS WE CAN BRING IN ON THE LIFTS AND AND GET THE RIDES INTO UP AND THE PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD LIKE TO DO SO.

AND THEN AND THEN WE WILL HAVE ALSO YOUR VANS FROM THE SAME PLACE.

THAT'S FOR WHEN PEOPLE ARE BROUGHT IN BY THE VANS.

A LOT OF SENIORS. OH, YEAH.

MR. HAGAN MENTIONED THAT YOU BECAUSE OF THE THE THE 55 PLUS RESIDENTIAL UNITS AROUND THE VALLEY, IT'S A GREAT PLACE FOR VANS, TOURIST BUSSES TO DROP PEOPLE OFF AS WELL.

AND WILL, IN ADDITION TO THAT, WILL HAVE THE YOU'LL HAVE THEIR NORMAL CHARGING STATIONS FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLES.

THROUGHOUT THIS. WE ARE EXPLORING AND HAVE TALKED TO A SOLAR ENERGY PRODUCING COMPANY THAT COMES IN. AND, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL THEY'LL COME IN AND THEY'LL PUT THEIR PANELS UP FOR NOTHING. THEY WON'T PAY US FOR THEM.

BUT THE BUT AND ALSO IN EXCHANGE, YOU KNOW, PUT IN SOME SOLAR CHARGING STATIONS.

SO WE'RE GOING TO BE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING WITH SOLAR ENERGY ON HERE AS WELL TO ADDRESS THE ENVIRONMENTAL. AND YOU'LL SEE THAT ROOF STRUCTURE ON THAT ON THAT ON THAT IMAGE UP THERE. RIGHT NOW. WE'VE GOT A WE'VE GOT SOME GOOD ROOFS, ROOFS SPAN THERE, SOME GOOD ROOF AREA THAT MAKES ITSELF AVAILABLE FOR.

SOLAR PANELS, SOLAR ENERGY, WHICH IS GOING TO BE VALUABLE FOR THE MALL AS WELL.

YOUR OTHER QUESTION REGARDING THE SHADE OPTIONS? YEAH, WE LOOK AT ALL KINDS OF SHADE OPTIONS AND WE THINK WE'VE WE'VE WE'VE PLACED A LOT OF AREA FOR SHADE WITHIN HERE UNDER UNDER SEVERAL DIFFERENT METHODS, SOME BEING THE HARD TRELLISES THAT YOU'LL SEE THAT THAT THAT BORDER, YOU KNOW, IMMEDIATELY AROUND THE CORNERS OF THE OF THE OF THE FOOD HALL AREA.

THESE ARE, YOU KNOW, WOULD BE HARD STRUCTURES THAT WOULD BE MOUNTED INTO THE SAME THING OUT FRONT HERE BELOW IT.

THAT WOULD BE A CHALA STRUCTURE.

WE'VE BROUGHT IN THE TENT, THE SHADE TENT STRUCTURES.

THOSE ARE THOSE ARE FULL SHADE ALLOWS US TO BRING SOME COLOR INTO THE PROJECT AS WELL.

AND THEN WE'VE GOT THE DATE GROVES IN.

ON TOP OF ALL OF THAT, WE'RE GOING TO OBVIOUSLY WANT TO EXTEND AS MUCH OF THE SEED, HAVE AS MUCH OF THE USABLE TIME, YOU KNOW, IN THESE AREAS.

SO WE'LL HAVE A WE'LL HAVE A SOPHISTICATED MISTING SYSTEM GOING THROUGH HERE AS WELL.

I DON'T KNOW. I WANT TO EXPLORE ONE OF THE THINGS WE GOT TO EXPLORE IS HOW WE PUT THAT MISTING SYSTEM IN GROWING PALM TREES.

BUT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT IN THAT AREA, TO CREATE THAT USABLE DURING THOSE REALLY HOT AREAS IS SOMETHING WE WILL BE LOOKING AT.

AND THEN YOUR LAST QUESTION WAS THE PROTEST.

WHAT WAS IT WHAT WAS THE LAST QUESTION WAS SOMETHING WITH PEDESTRIAN? YEAH, SO THAT ACTUALLY IS ACTUALLY THE SLIDE ON SEVEN NOW ACTUALLY SHOWS IT LOOKS LIKE THAT IS ACCESS TO VEHICLES, BUT ALSO IT'S RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE PARK.

SO I COULD IMAGINE THAT THERE MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, CHILDREN THAT ARE PLAYING GOING FROM ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER. SO I'M WONDERING IF YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT ANY SORT OF PEDESTRIAN PROTECTION, IF CARS ARE DRIVING BY THAT AREA WITHOUT LOCKING EMERGENCY ACCESS, EMERGENCY VEHICLE ACCESS. YEAH, TO ADD TWO THINGS TOWARD THAT IS, YES, IT'S IT'S GOT TO BE AND IS GOING TO BE AN ACTIVE DRIVEWAY.

IT'S GOING TO CONNECT THAT AREA BY ACTIVATING THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE MALL.

THIS WILL BE AN ACTIVE AREA DRIVING.

WE WILL HAVE THE WE WILL HAVE THE SPEED BUMPS, TYPICAL SPEED BUMPS.

A LOT OF TIMES WHAT WE'LL DO WAS WE'LL DO THE ELEVATED PEDESTRIAN SIDEWALKS, WHICH ACT AS

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SOMETIMES THE OTHER ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WHERE WE WILL DO AND PROPOSE TO DO IS THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE POSTS THAT WE CAN MOUNT IN THAT ROAD ON EVENTS FOR SATURDAY, SUNDAY, OUR FOOD CAR EVENT.

WE'VE GOT A AN ART SHOW EVENT.

WE'VE GOT A PONY RIDE GOING ON THERE.

AND IN THE MALL INVOLVED IN THE MALL, WE'VE GOT A MALAWIAN GOING WHERE WE'VE GOT PEOPLE WALKING ACROSS WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY BLOCK OFF THE TRAFFIC.

SO TO PREVENT TRAFFIC FROM GOING ACROSS THAT AREA TO OPEN THAT WHOLE AREA UP AS A KIND OF PART OF THE FESTIVAL, PART OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE CRAFTS SHOW, YOU KNOW, OUT THERE.

SO, YES, WE'RE VERY SENSITIVE TO IT.

TO OBVIOUSLY, THERE ARE A CUSTOMER, ONE OF OUR PRIME FOCUS, AND WE WILL SLOW DOWN THE TRAFFIC THERE WITH ALL THOSE KIND OF NORMAL MEANS, NOTHING EXTRAORDINARY, NOTHING, NOTHING LIFE AND NOTHING TOO AMAZING THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO COME UP WITH YET OTHER THAN THOSE. OK, GO AHEAD.

YOU CAN GO WHATEVER YOU LIKE.

GO AHEAD. I GET.

SO I JUST HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION, AND IT WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T ASK THIS, THE CHURCH THAT'S ON THE AT THE FARTHEST ARE COMING DOWN TO JOHN NOBLES.

WHAT IS THE PLAN TO INCORPORATE THIS INTO THE IF IT IS GOING TO BE PART OF THIS PROJECT? AND WOULD IT BE SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD BE OPENING TO MAYBE MAKING THIS LIKE IT? HISTORIC, HISTORICAL? MAYBE IT'S A CITY THAT'S NOT REGISTERED, BUT MAYBE LIKE A HISTORICAL SITE, BECAUSE THAT CHURCH IS ONE OF THE LAST STANDING BUILDINGS IN THAT AREA.

AND TO SOME FOLKS AROUND THE THAT LIVE IN THAT COMMUNITY WHERE I GREW UP, THAT IS AGAIN, I KIND OF LIKE A SENTIMENTAL HISTORICAL LIKE THE LAST BUILDING THAT WAS STANDING ON THAT ON THAT ON THAT CORNER.

I TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, THAT'S NOT A QUESTION FOR ME.

I'M GOING TO DEFER THAT QUESTION TO YOUR CITY COUNCIL, TO YOU FOLKS ON WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH THE CHURCH. RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE NOT SHOWN OUR DESIGN TO BUILD AROUND AND IT'S NOT AMENABLE TO A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WHERE IT STANDS TODAY.

BUT IT'S NOT MY DECISION.

I, I HAD I HAD OFFERED BEFORE WE GOT HERE THAT IF THAT QUESTION CAME UP, I WOULD TAKE IT.

OUR OUR ASSUMPTION RIGHT NOW HAS BEEN THAT THAT PROPERTY WOULD BE PROPERTY, THAT PARTY ARE PART OF THE SALE.

AND AS SUCH, WE HAVE NOT ASSUMED THAT THAT PARTICULAR BUILDING WAS GOING TO REMAIN THERE AT ALL. WE HAVE LOTS OF DISCUSSIONS WE STILL NEED TO DO WITH THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THERE.

THEY HAVE BEEN THERE NOW FOR I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YEARS, DECADES, I GUESS, SINCE THE PROPERTY WAS WAS BOUGHT.

THIS THE CITY HAS OWNED THAT PROPERTY FOR A LONG, LONG TIME AND THEY'VE OPERATED THERE, I THINK, ON A ONE DOLLAR A YEAR BASIS OR LESS OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME.

AND SO THERE'S BEEN AN ASSUMPTION FOR A LONG TIME THAT AT SOME POINT THAT THAT PROPERTY WAS GOING TO BE SOLD.

AND AND WE ARE STILL WE'VE STILL BEEN OPERATING UNDER THAT ASSUMPTION.

WE NEED TO TALK TO THEM.

WE NEED TO TALK TO THE PASTOR AND WE FULLY INTEND TO AND SEE WHAT KINDS OF ARRANGEMENTS CAN BE MADE. BUT RIGHT NOW, YOU WON'T SEE THAT IN THIS PLAN BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T ASKED THEM TO PUT IT INTO THIS PLAN.

THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU.

YOU'RE PLANNING COMMISSIONER USANA, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS AT THIS TIME? YEAH, I I'M REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THIS COMING TO FRUITION.

I MEAN, THAT MILES NEEDED SOME HELP FOR DECADES, SO I'M REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THIS MULTIUSE PLAN PUT INTO PLACE.

I'M EXCITED TO SEE A FEW LAB TYPE OF FOOD COURT AREA.

THOSE ARE REALLY POPULAR IN THE INLAND EMPIRE AND L.A.

AREA. AND THOSE IN ITSELF, YOU KNOW, DONE PROPERLY, CAN BRING IN A LOT OF MONEY FROM ACROSS THE VALLEY TO INDIO OR EVEN OUTSIDE OTHER THE ROMAN EMPIRE, BECAUSE I KNOW SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO WILL DRIVE TO, YOU KNOW, FACILITIES LIKE THIS OUT IN RIVERSIDE.

THERE'S ONE THERE, THE MISSION END AND PEOPLE WILL DRIVE OUT TO L.A.

OR ORANGE COUNTY FOR, YOU KNOW, FOOD COURTS SUCH AS THIS.

YOU KNOW, IF WE DO IT RIGHT AND BRING IN A BROAD VARIETY OF ETHNIC TYPE CUISINES, PARTNER UP WITH SOME OF OUR LOCAL BREWERIES, I'M SURE THAT WE CAN MAKE IT A GREAT PLACE FOR

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THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I LIKE TO PASS IT BACK UP TO THE MAYOR AND SEE WHAT COMMENTS WE HAVE FROM THE COUNCIL.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

WE'RE GOING TO GO IN ORDER OF ROME TO MAKE IT ORDERLY.

SO, COUNCIL MEMBER AMEET, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO BRING IN? I JUST LIKE TO COMMENT ON THE FABULOUS NEW EXTERIOR.

I THINK THAT'S A GREAT NEW CONCEPT FOR THE FUTURE OF INDIO.

AND ALSO, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WAY THE HAKEN COMPANY HAS WORKED TO BRING THE SYNERGY TO WHAT IS CALLED THE SOUTH ENTRANCE.

I NEVER THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE POSSIBLE TO CREATE A SOUTH ENTRANCE AS WELL.

BUT WITH THE RESTAURANT CAUGHT AND THE POTENTIAL FOR THE PARK AND JUST EVERYTHING GOING ON ON THE SOUTH SIDE CONNECTED TO THE RESIDENTIAL, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT SYNERGY AREA, MUCH MORE THAN THE THE REGULAR NORTH FACING ENTRANCE.

SO I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

I DO LIKE THE NEW DESIGN.

I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THE MULTI LEVEL HOUSING, SHOULD THAT BE PROPOSED LATER.

BUT IT'S NOT CURRENTLY ON THE TABLE.

EVERYTHING LOOKS GREAT FROM MY POINT OF VIEW.

AND THANK YOU TO THE AND COMPANIES FOR WORKING WITH IN AND OUT.

I KNOW THAT'S BEEN KIND OF A HEADACHE FOR A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS AND IT LOOKS LIKE THIS IS THE BEST SOLUTION THAT WE COULD FIND.

I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT KIND OF TENANTS WE CAN GET ON THE ANCHORS.

I DON'T KNOW. WHAT THE MARKET WILL BEAR WHEN THIS PROJECT COMES FORWARD, BUT I REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING WHAT TYPE OF TENANTS WILL BE BROUGHT IN TO THIS PROJECT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER MS. COUNCIL MEMBER TEETH HIGH.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.

AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS SO FAR ON TRYING TO MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO THIS PROJECT. I HAVE SEEN, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS EVEN IN THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS WITH THE CAR SHOWS THERE, THE THE FOOD TRUCK PARTS THERE AND JUST THE OVERALL LIKE CLEANLINESS AND NEW TENANTS IN THE MALL.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.

I REALLY LIKE THE THE CONCEPT OF THE OUTDOOR VENUES.

I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE GREAT FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

THE PLAYGROUND FOR THE KIDS, THAT'S DEFINITELY NEEDED RIGHT NOW IN OUR AREAS, THE FOOD COURT. YOU KNOW, I REALLY I JUST REALLY LIKE THE DESIGN AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO INCORPORATE INTO INTO THIS PROJECT AND ESPECIALLY THE OUTDOOR VENUE WHERE YOU WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SHOWING THE SPORTS EVENTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS REALLY NEEDED IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR FAMILIES TO BE ABLE TO COME OUT AND ENJOY THIS AREA SPECIFICALLY.

AND SOME OF THE I WANTED TO ECHO SOME OF THE CONCERNS FROM OUR GLORIA FRONS, WHERE WE DO WANT TO SEE A WELL LIT PATH AND BIKE PATHS FOR OUR OUR RESIDENTS AND TACKLE CRISTIAN RODRIGUEZ, HIS COMMENTS ON THE SUSTAINABILITY OF IT.

AND THIS ISN'T SPECIFICALLY TO YOUR PROJECT.

I THINK GOING FORWARD, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO BE PUSHING FROM THAT FROM EVERY DEVELOPER REALLY TO START LOOKING AT HOW DO WE START DEVELOPING THE WAY THAT'S GOING TO PROVIDE CLEANER AIR FOR OUR FOR OUR RESIDENTS, FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

AND HOPEFULLY IN THE LONG RUN, WE CAN GET, YOU KNOW, MORE AND MORE DEVELOPERS TO START LOOKING INTO THOSE CONCERNS AND START ADDRESSING SOME OF THOSE ISSUES.

I WANT TO TACKLE JACKIE LOPEZ'S CONCERNS OVER WITH THE CHURCH AND ALSO JUST THE JOHN MOBBLES THE HISTORY THERE OF THAT AREA.

RIGHT. AND I THINK MAYBE THAT PATHWAY THAT WE HAVE OR THAT COMMUNITY PART CAN MAYBE INCORPORATE SOME OF THOSE SOME OF THAT HISTORY AND MAYBE TELL THAT STORY IN SOME WAY, WHETHER IT'S SOME KIND OF MEMORIAL OR, YOU KNOW, WE CAN FIGURE OUT SOMETHING TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT HISTORY ISN'T LOST FOR THAT AREA.

ONE OF MY OTHER CONCERNS IS THE HOUSING HERE.

SO BEING CITY LAND THERE AND SEEING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR HOUSING ELEMENT COMING UP PRETTY SOON. BUT WE KNOW THAT HOUSING IS IS ONE OF THE TOP ISSUES FOR OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS. SO I DO WANT THE HOUSING PRICES TO REFLECT THE NEEDS OF THAT COMMUNITY. AND I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN WORK WITH DAVID SCHUMER OR WITH SOME OF THE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS HERE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE COACHELLA VALLEY HOUSING COALITION.

AND JUST MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, WE STILL WANT A VERY WELL DEVELOPED HOUSING HOUSING UNITS THERE. BUT I DO I WOULD LIKE IT TO HELP US ADDRESS THE NEEDS, THE VERY HEAVY NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY AT THIS MOMENT.

BUT I REALLY LIKE THE PROJECT.

I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SEE THIS COME FORWARD.

AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE TO GET US THIS FAR.

AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO FUTURE CONVERSATIONS ON THIS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. ORTIZ. AND I ISD MR. SALEHA AS REJOINED US.

MR. SALEHA, SINCE YOU'RE THE ONLY PLANNING COMMISSIONER THAT HASN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY

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WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS, SIR? AND THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I'LL ECHO A LOT OF THE COMMENTS I JUST HEARD.

AND I'M HESITANT TO GET TOO FAR INTO IT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS ALREADY DISCUSSED.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I LOVE THE IDEA OF THE PARK.

I LOVE THE IDEA OF ADDING HOUSING TO THIS SITE.

WHAT I'M I'M HOPING TO THAT THE MALL CAN TRANSLATE INTO IS REALLY A DESTINATION.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT MAKES THE MOST SUCCESSFUL RETAIL CENTERS.

I THINK HOUSING CAN HELP THAT.

I THINK THE PARK HELPS THAT.

I'M CURIOUS WHAT KIND OF PROGRAMING YOU MIGHT INCLUDE.

I KNOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LED SCREEN THAT WOULD BE THERE.

MAYBE THAT'S A COMMUNITY SPACE FOR YOU.

WE'RE ALL WATCHING WORLD CUP SOCCER THERE.

SO I'M HOPING THERE'S MAYBE SOME OTHER PROGRAMING THAT GOES WITH THAT ON SOME OF THE PLANS. I JUST HAD A QUESTION.

I WAS I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE PROPOSED SIGNAL ON MONROE STREET.

I KNOW WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET INTO THE WEEDS SO MUCH RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT DOES HAVE TO DO WITH YOUR CIRCULATION THROUGH THE SITE.

THAT'S A TWO HUNDRED SEVENTY FOOT DISTANCE BETWEEN INTERSECTIONS THAT ARE SIGNALIZED.

THAT SEEMS LIKE IT COULD BE A POTENTIAL STACKING ISSUE AND THAT MAY NECESSITATE A CHANGE IN HOW YOU LOOK AT THE CIRCULATION THERE.

BUT OVERALL, VERY SUPPORTIVE OF WHAT I SEE FOR THE FACELIFT ON THE MALL AND THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE GOING INTO THAT.

AND THEN ON THE HOUSING SIDE, LOVE THAT, TOO.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME OF THE GENERAL PLAN ELEMENTS THAT WE TALK ABOUT IN LAND USE AND LAND USE ELEMENT WHERE BUILDINGS ARE ACTUALLY PUSHED TO THE STREET.

SO YOU START FRAMING IN THAT SPACE AS WELL.

AND THAT IF THERE'S A WAY TO MAYBE BREAK UP THE PARKING A BIT MORE, I KNOW I LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN. IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF PARKING.

SO MAYBE THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITY TO CONVERT SOME OF THE.

INTO MORE GREEN SPACE AS WELL.

BUT OVERALL, REALLY LIKE WHAT I SEE HERE, I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF IT.

THANK YOU, MR. SALEHA, MR. FURMAN. SURE.

THE ONLY THING THAT'S HARD FOR ME YOU WERE WEARING A MASK IS I CAN'T SHOW MY SMILE.

SO I HAD TO SHOW MY SMILE BECAUSE I'M GOING TO TELL YOU I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND A LOT OF DIFFERENT LEVELS.

I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT.

AND FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK OUR COUNCIL, OUR CITY MANAGER, OUR PLANNING COMMISSION, AND MR. HAGAN AND HAGAN COMPANY GROUP, BECAUSE THIS IS HISTORICAL.

THIS IS 30 PLUS YEARS IN THE MAKING FOR US TO SEE THIS THROUGH.

AND I TELL YOU, COMMISSIONER LOPEZ STATED THAT THIS PERSONAL IS VERY PERSONAL TO ME BECAUSE I WALK THROUGH THIS MALL, THROUGH SEARS, THROUGH THE AUTO MART AUTO PARTS AND WENT TO CIRCUS CANDY, WENT TO EARL SANDWICHES, WENT TO THE RECORD SHOP AND WALKED ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE THRIFT TO GET ICE CREAM.

AND WHEN THIRTY'S MOVED ACROSS THE STREET, I WOULD GET IN TROUBLE BECAUSE WE CROSS THE STREET TO GET ICE CREAM.

BUT I TELL YOU, THAT'S THAT'S HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS.

AND FURTHERMORE, THE COMMUNITY DESERVES IT.

THE CITY OF INDIO DESERVES IT.

THE FOLKS WHO LIVED IN NOLA'S RANCH DESERVE IT PRESENTLY.

AND IN THE PAST, THERE WERE A LOT OF FOLKS THAT WERE DISPLACED AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST.

WE CAN'T CHANGE THAT NOW.

BUT, MR. HAGAN, YOU CAN HELP WITH THAT HEALING PROCESS.

AND SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

I REALLY DO. AND.

I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS.

NOW THAT THE NUTS AND BOLTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT'S WHY I GOT ERIC, ERIC.

ERIC IS GOING TO LOOK INTO THAT IN OUR PLANNING COMMISSION.

I HAVE I HAVE FULL CONFIDENCE IN OUR PLANNING COMMISSION.

I HAVE FULL CONFIDENCE IN YOUR STAFF THAT WE'LL GET THROUGH THIS.

SPEAKING ON THE PROJECT.

IT HAS A GREAT SENSE OF COMMUNITY WALKABILITY TO THE FOLKS WHO LIVE IN THAT COMMUNITY, TAKE A WALK THERE, THEY COULD GO TO THE MALL, TO THE PARK, SIT OUT, GRAB SOMETHING TO DRINK AND ENJOY THE PROPERTY.

I LOVE IT. IT'S ALSO GOING TO BRING EMPLOYMENT TO OUR COMMUNITY, SOMETHING THAT WE NEED, SOMETHING COMING OUT OF. WE'RE GOING TO NEED WE'RE GOING TO NEED JOBS.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE IN KOBE FOREVER.

OUR ECONOMY IS GOING TO BOUNCE BACK.

AND WE DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BOUNCE BACK.

IT WON'T. BUT IF YOU THINK IT WILL, WE'VE GOT TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.

IT'S GOING TO BE A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT AND IT'S ALSO GOING TO BRING SOME MUCH NEEDED HOUSING. WE NEED TO THE AREA PEOPLE LIVE THERE.

THEY'RE GOING NEED TO EAT. THEY NEED TO SHOP.

I MEAN, WE WILL GO BY OUR SCHOOL CLOTHES AT THE MALL.

WE WILL BUY OUR SHOES AT THE MALL.

I MEAN, HOW MANY OF US OUT THERE WAS WATCHING, REMEMBER, FOREVER? AND WHEN FOOTLOCKER CAME IN, I WAS A BIG THING.

RIGHT. AND EVEN A FIELD OF DREAMS. BUT WE NEED TO BRING THAT BACK.

WE NEED TO BRING THAT BACK TO OUR COMMUNITY.

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IT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE A SPOKE ABOUT.

IT'S ALSO LEADS US TO THE FESTIVALS.

THIS IS THE CITY OF FESTIVALS.

WE TALK ABOUT INDIO.

WE HAVE FESTIVALS, DAY FESTIVAL AND FESTIVAL, COACHELLA FEST, STAGECOACH, THIS RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD, STOP AT THE MALL, GO DOWN TO THE FESTIVALS.

AND THIS IS INDEED THIS IS THE HEART OF OUR CITY.

111 TOMORROW IS THE HEART OF OUR CITY.

WE NEED TO CAPITALIZE ON THAT.

ME PERSONALLY, I THINK WE LOST THAT WITH THE JEFFERSON INTERCHANGE PROJECT.

I WANTED MY ROLE. I WASN'T HERE YET.

BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT ON THE OUTSIDE LOOKING IN, THAT'S WHAT I WANTED.

NONETHELESS, WE'RE HERE NOW.

SO I LOVE THE IDEA, THE HOTEL, THE HOSPITALITY ASPECT OF IT.

WE HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS WHO WORK IN THAT FIELD HERE AND WE HAVE HOSPITALITY PROGRAMS THAT ALSO TEND TO THIS.

SO THAT'S ALSO NOT ONLY GOOD FOR THE FESTIVALS, IT'S ALSO GOOD FOR REVENUE FOR THE CITY AND OUR TEAMS. RIGHT.

WE WANT MORE HOTELS.

SO I LOVE THE HOTEL ASPECT OF IT AND ALSO THE FLEX SPACE WITH THE TV SCREEN.

I MEAN, THAT CAN SERVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT PURPOSES.

SOMETIMES COSTAS COSTS A LOT OF MONEY, SOMETIMES FOLKS CAN'T AFFORD THAT, RIGHT, BUT I LOVE TO WORK WITH GOLDEN VOICE AND BRING ARIANA GRANDE TO THE MALL TO PERFORM A COUPLE OF SONGS FOR SOME OF OUR KIDS.

AND I'M GIGGLING. BUT THAT'S HOW I THINK.

AND, YOU KNOW, THE LOCAL ARTISTS, WE HAVE A LOT OF TALENT HERE.

I KNOW THAT WE COULD GET GET OUR FOLKS HERE.

WE GOT A LOT OF FOOD VENDORS.

WE HAVE JUST GREAT TALENT HERE WHERE OUR LOCAL ARTISTS I LIKE TO SEE AND I KNOW THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING PHASES OF IT, BUT SOME ARTWORK, SOME MURALS.

SO OUR ARTS COMMISSION, I HOPE THEY'RE PAYING ATTENTION.

THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO GET INVOLVED AND SOME OF THE SURROUNDING AREAS WITH SOME MURALS AND SOME ARTWORK AND WORKING WITH THE HAGAN COMPANY AND MAYBE DOING SOMETHING AT THE MALL. I THINK THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.

I'M ALSO A HISTORY BUFF.

AND IF YOU'VE BEEN INTO THE THE MALL RECENTLY OR IN THE PAST MONTHS, MR. HIGGINS HAS SOME CARS IN THERE AND HAD SOME ARTWORK.

I LOVE IT. AND I LIKE TO CAPITALIZE ON SOME MORE OF THAT.

AND BUT LIKE I SAID, IT'S GOING TO BE A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT WITH THE CITY, WITH THE COMMUNITY. THE COMMUNITY HAS TO TAKE SOME RESPONSIBILITY.

I'M LOOKING ON WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY, ON SEEING WHAT WE COULD DO WITH SOME OF THE PROPERTY SURROUNDING THE CHURCH.

I'M LOOKING TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY AND TALKS WITH THE HAGEN COMPANY.

THEY WANT TO DO SOMETHING TO MEMORIALIZE THE COMMUNITY THERE, AND I'M ALL FOR IT.

SO I WANT TO GET OFF MY SOAPBOX.

BUT I'M JUST SO EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT BROUGHT ME TO COUNCIL.

SO ONCE AGAIN, MR. HAGAN, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS TO US.

AND I STRONGLY SUPPORT IT AND I'M GOING TO SEE IT THROUGH.

AND SO I'M GOING TO STOP RIGHT THERE BECAUSE WE'LL BE HERE ALL NIGHT LIKE IT WAS.

YES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ENTHUSIASM.

YOU CAN STILL TAKE MY JACKET ON.

OH, YEAH, SURE. AND THE MAYOR AND I, YOU KNOW, IT'S SUCH A GREAT FEELING BEING PUMPED.

CAN YOU FEEL THAT, MR. HAGAN? I MEAN, WE'RE PUMPED UP HERE.

WE'RE EXCITED, WE'RE ENERGIZED.

WE CAN'T WAIT.

AND I THINK SOME OF THE ELEMENTS THAT ARE JUST TRULY TRANSFORMATIONAL ARE DRAWING FROM THE JOHN NOBLE'S NEIGHBORHOOD INTO I MEAN, HOW YOU DESIGN THAT THAT SOUTH END IS TRANSFORMATIONAL. AND IT NOT ONLY DRAWS THE COMMUNITY INTO THE MALL, THEN YOU HAVE THE APARTMENTS. RIGHT.

AND ALL OF THAT SERVES TO SUPPORT THE LOCAL BUSINESSES.

AND I JUST SEE THAT VIBRANCY AND THAT ENERGY THERE AND THAT FLEX SPACE.

THE SECOND YOU SHOWED US THAT I'M THINKING DODGERS, I'M THINKING LET'S I'M THINKING LET'S LET'S SHOW THE SPORTS.

YOU KNOW, WE ALL HAVE BEEN TO THE BIG SCREEN ESPN, WHICH IS WE ARE SERIOUSLY OVERKILL.

BUT HERE TO HAVE THAT SCREEN AND TO BE ABLE TO SHOW WORLD CUP SOCCER THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD COME AND THEN ENJOY THAT OUTDOOR AREA, AND THEN YOU HAVE SOME HIGH AND, YOU KNOW, HIGH QUALITY FOODS IN THE IN THE FOOD AREA.

I MEAN, IT WOULD JUST BE BUZZING.

WE WANT EVERYTHING TO BE BUZZING A COMPLETE AND TOTAL SUPPORT OF IT.

LOVE THE COLOR. THIS IS A WOW FACTOR.

AND WHAT MAKES IT A WOW FACTOR ARE THE ESTHETICS LIKE THE COLOR, BUT THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO THIS IS GOING TO BE A DESTINATION BECAUSE OF THE EVENTS

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IT THIS THIS IS A WORLD CLASS VENUE.

I'M EXCITED. I LOVE FEELING THE ENERGY OF EVERYBODY HERE.

AND I JUST I THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT LEVEL OF WORLD CLASS ENGAGEMENT INTO OUR COMMUNITY. WE DO NEED TO COMMEMORATE I'VE ALWAYS SAID THAT THE HISTORY I DON'T KNOW NECESSARILY THAT KEEPING THE CHURCH DOES THAT.

BUT WE CAN FIND WAYS.

WE WILL DISCUSS HOW WE CAN BEST EMBRACE THE HISTORY OF THE JOHN NOBLES RATCH AND AND AND SO THAT THEY IT INCITES A SENSE OF PRIDE.

AND SO I'M VERY, VERY EXCITED.

THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH FOR THIS.

THANK YOU, MY TEAM.

AND THANK YOU, MR HAGUE. AND ALL THIS AND OUR STAFF FOR ALL THE WORK YOU'VE DONE ON THIS SO FAR. WE APPRECIATE IT.

I MEAN, I'VE BEEN HERE THIRTY FIVE YEARS AND I REMEMBER THE MALL WHEN IT WAS IN ITS HEYDAY AND IT'S SEEN BETTER DAYS.

AND WHEN MR HAGAN AND.

YOUR COMPANY BOUGHT THIS WITH YOUR EXPERTIZE IN THIS.

THIS IS WHERE YOU MAKE YOUR LIVING, POLO'S JUST A LITTLE BIT OF A FUN THING FOR YOU, BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO START TO REVITALIZE THE INDIO'S WHOLE INNER CITY. YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT EVERYTHING ALONG.

I 10. I TELL MY CARE OF ITSELF IT WILL BECAUSE OF THE SHEER VOLUME OF CARS GOING BY.

BUT THIS INDIO MARKETPLACE IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO OPEN UP OUR NEW INSIDE OF OUR COMMUNITY. AND THEN THAT IS MR. HAGAN, SO ELOQUENTLY PUT, WILL LEAD INTO WHERE YOU'RE A PART OF IT ALREADY WITH THE NEW HOUSING AND DEVELOPMENT GOING DOWNTOWN WILL LEAD INTO OUR DOWNTOWN.

SO WE'LL HAVE A WHOLE CORRIDOR FEEL TO IT.

SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT.

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE WHAT YOU HAVE COMING UP.

I'M EXCITED THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO SKIP A BEAT REAL QUICKLY AND KNOWING THAT THE THEATER INDUSTRY WAS NO LONGER GOING TO BE A PART OF IT AND WAS ABLE TO GO AHEAD AND REDEVELOP YOUR YOUR LOOK FOR YOUR MALL.

I DO HAVE JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON THE FOUR STORY APARTMENT.

I'D LOVE TO SEE MR. SCHOEMAN AND THEN YOU GUYS GET STARTED ON THAT SOONER THAN LATER.

SO, I MEAN, I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S MARKET DRIVEN.

SO, YOU KNOW HOW WE CAN SUPPORT THAT.

HOUSING IS A BIG ELEMENT TO OUR COMMUNITY.

I THINK IT'LL BE A BIG ASSET TO NOT ONLY THE AREA, BUT ALSO THE MALL.

SO HOW WE CAN HELP YOU OBVIOUSLY HEARD THE CITY COUNCIL.

SO, YOU KNOW, FOR STORIES THAT IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT IT DOESN'T AFFECT THE COMMUNITY. I WANT JOHN KNOWLES TO KNOW, AND AS YOU'VE ALREADY PUT IT, BE A BIG PART OF IT. THEY LOST A LOT OF LAND.

THEY LOST A LOT OF FAITH IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND SO THIS MALL WILL BE A GOOD STATEMENT FOR THE COMMUNITY TO SEE THAT WE'RE INVESTING BACK AND THEN WE WANT THEM TO BE A PART OF IT.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE'LL BE ABLE TO HELP YOU SUPPORT THAT.

ON THE SIDE. I DIDN'T SEE A MONUMENT SIGN.

WILL THERE BE MONUMENT SIGNS WHERE YOU HAVE SOMETHING? I DIDN'T SEE IT IN THE PLACE.

I SAW THE STUFF ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

BUT A MONUMENT SIGN IS USUALLY SOMETHING IN MULTIPLE AREAS YOU'LL NEED TO DO.

AND THIS WAY I CAN DO IT.

AND THEN I'D LIKE TO SEE SUNLIGHT MUST BE A PART OF IT RIGHT NOW.

IT STOPS OUT FRONT WHERE IT STOPS TRAFFIC.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S IN THE BEST IDEA, BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE GO IN.

WE NEED TO WORK WITH SUNLIGHT ON THE VICE CHAIRMAN OF IT.

BUT SUNLINE, WITH THEIR NEW RAPID RESPONSE AND THE ROUTES THAT THEY'RE PUTTING IN PLACE, WILL BE ABLE TO BRING NOT ONLY WORKERS AND SHOPPERS TO THAT, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE A PROMINENT PLACE WHERE WE PUT THAT SOMEWHERE THERE WHERE IT CAN BENEFIT YOU, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, CONTINUE ON THE ROUTE WHERE IT DOESN'T BLOCK TRAFFIC AND OTHER STUFF, KIND OF LIKE IN AND OUT BURGER.

EVERYBODY LOVES IN AND OUT BURGER, BUT EVERYBODY HATES THE TRAFFIC.

SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.

QUESTIONS. WE'RE HERE TO HELP AND SUPPORT YOU AND THE FLOOR IS YOURS.

JUST A QUICK RESPONSE ON THE SIGNAGE.

I DIDN'T BRING THAT UP THIS EVENING.

WE WILL I'VE BEEN IN CONVERSATION WITH WITH STAFF REGARDING THE SIGNAGE.

WE'VE WE'VE PROPOSED SOME CHANGES TO THE SPECIFIC PLAN, LIMITATIONS ON SIGNAGE.

WE WANT TO GO BIG AND COLORFUL WITH SIGNAGE ON THIS PROPERTY.

ALSO, WE'D LOVE TO HAVE AN ELECTRONIC MESSAGE BOARD OUT ON THE STREET THAT CAN ADVERTISE NOT ONLY THE MALL, BUT BUT EVENTS IN THE CITY AND EVENTS IN THE AREA WE'VE DONE WILL WE'LL DO A WHOLE SIGNED PROGRAM ELEMENT THAT WILL INCLUDE MONUMENT SIGNS AND THAT'LL BE SUBMITTED THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR A WHOLE SEPARATE SUBMITTAL.

BUT WE WILL BE ASKING YOU TO EXTEND, YOU KNOW, KIND OF YOUR LIMITATIONS ON SIGNAGE THAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE IN THE CITY.

SO THAT'LL BE ONE OF THE ONE OF THE THINGS YOU COULD HELP US WITH.

OK, THANK YOU. AND ON SUNLINE BUS, YOU'LL WORK WITH I ABSOLUTELY LOVE TO BRING THEM INTO THE PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, FOR A BUS STOP TO BRING IN.

WE'VE DONE IT BEFORE AND SOME OF OUR LARGER PROJECTS, BUT NOT VERY, VERY INTERESTED IN

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RIGHT. SO THEY'RE LOOKING AT OTHER WAYS TO SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY COMING IN THROUGH MULTIPLE TRANSPORTATION.

SO ABSOLUTELY.

WE APPRECIATE THAT. AND I'M JUST EXCITED FOR YOUR INVESTMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY AND YOUR INVESTMENT AND THOUGHTS OF PURCHASING IN THE MALL AND MOVING IT FORWARD.

AND THE PLANS ARE GREAT.

SO I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT WITH THAT.

MR. SNYDER, YOU'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK ON THIS.

YOU DON'T MIND COMING UP HERE FOR A SECOND AND GIVING US A LITTLE BIT OF YOUR THOUGHTS AND WHAT ELSE YOU NEED FROM US.

WE KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO WORK IN OUR BEST INTEREST.

YOU'VE HEARD ALL THE AMOUNTS OF TIME MR. FAHY'S WORKING WITH YOU.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE HERE TO SUPPORT YOU.

I DON'T WANT YOU TO TO THINK THAT WE'RE NOT HERE.

YOU BROUGHT US ALONG WAY TOO FORWARD AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE ONE OF THE ONES THAT BRING US TO FRUITION. CAN WE HELP YOU? THANK YOU, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL AND COMMISSION CHAIRPERSON AND PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS AT THIS TIME.

YOUR FEEDBACK HAS BEEN HAS BEEN AMAZING AND HELPFUL AT THE STAFF LEVEL WITH THE CITY MANAGER SAID EARLIER, THIS IS A DISCUSSION ONLY.

THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION, YOUTH COUNCIL AND PLANNING COMMISSION TO HEAR ABOUT THIS PROPOSED PROJECT AND TO GET FEEDBACK ON THE MORE TECHNICAL SIDE. THERE ARE SEVERAL STEPS THAT WE'LL BE WORKING WITH THE HAITIAN COMPANY ON THAT.

ULTIMATELY, THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL WILL BE GIVING FEEDBACK ON MR. FAIR. HE MENTIONED THE SPECIFIC PLAN.

THERE IS THE CENTRAL AND SPECIFIC PLAN THAT DOES COVER THIS PROPERTY.

AND SOME OF THE ELEMENTS THAT YOU SAW THIS EVENING WILL REQUIRE SOME TO THAT SPECIFIC PLAN. SO WE'LL BE WORKING WITH THE HAGUE COMPANY TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS OF AMENDING THE SPECIFIC PLAN THAT WILL GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION INITIALLY AND THEN ULTIMATELY THE COUNCIL FOR THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION.

SO YOU'LL SEE THAT LATER, AS MR. AS MR. SCOTT POINTED OUT, WE WILL BE ENGAGING WITH THE COMMUNITY.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DO BELIEVE IS VERY IMPORTANT.

AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE FEEDBACK AND INPUT BOTH TO THE CITY AS WELL AS TO MR HAGUE AND HIS TEAM.

AND I THOUGHT THIS TIME I DON'T HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL REQUESTS OF YOU OTHER THAN TO SAY THANK YOU. AND I THINK THE FEEDBACK HAS BEEN HELPFUL FOR ME AS STAFF AND FOR MY TEAM AS WELL AS THE HAKEM FOLKS. THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD MENTION IS THAT THERE WILL BE MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS AS IT GOES FORWARD.

SO FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT ARE WATCHING THIS EVENING, THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING.

AND THERE WILL BE MANY DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES TO GIVE INPUT INTO THE PROCESS, TO THE COMMISSION AND TO THE COUNCIL.

SO FOR FOLKS THAT ARE LISTENING, STAY TUNED.

OK, THANK YOU, SIR. ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE AN ATMOSPHERE HERE? ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO PUT THIS SLIDE PRESENTATION ON, LIKE OUR WEBSITE PEOPLE SEE IT, OR IS THAT SOMETHING THEY NEED TO DO? I KNOW IT'S CONCEPTUAL, BUT I THINK PEOPLE WOULD BE EXCITED ABOUT SEEING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE SOME FEEDBACK AND BE DOING THAT.

ARE WE DO THAT AT FUTURE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS? MR. FAHY'S BEHIND YOU.

SO I THINK WITH THE CITY MANAGER, THIS IS WHAT THE CITY MANAGER CALLS.

I MEAN, YOU CAN COME UP TO MY MR. SCOTT. GO AHEAD. I WAS GOING TO ADDRESS SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

I THINK WE CAN PUT ANYTHING WE'VE PRESENTED PUBLICLY IS IN THE PUBLIC ARENA.

SO I THINK WE CAN PUT IT ON.

WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT IT'S POSTED IN SUCH A WAY THAT PEOPLE KNOW THAT IT'S DRAFT BECAUSE THINGS CAN CHANGE THROUGH THE REVIEW PROCESS.

BUT SINCE IT'S BEEN PRESENTED PUBLICLY, I ASSUME THAT THIS IS SOMETHING WE COULD PUT UP.

ABSOLUTELY. AND WE HAVE THERE IS A WEBSITE FOR INDIO MARKETPLACE, AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE BEEN PREPARING TO ROLL OUT THIS NEW DESIGN ON THAT WEB PAGE, YOU KNOW, PENDING A DISCUSSION AT THIS MEETING.

SO WE WILL BE DOING THAT AS WELL ON OUR WEB PAGE THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR INDIO MARKETPLACE, WILL BE ACCESSIBLE TO ANYBODY WITH THE INTERNET ACCESS.

RIGHT. WONDERFUL. THANK YOU, SIR.

MR. SCOTT, I WAS JUST GOING TO MAKE A COUPLE OF QUICK COMMENTS THERE IN THE DISCUSSION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WILL WANT TO DO WITH THE CITY COUNCIL GOING FORWARD IS NOT TO NOT TO LET THIS STOP AT THE BORDER OF THE STREET.

WE'RE GOING TO BRING IN SOME CONCEPTS ON OTHER IMPROVEMENTS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S ADJACENT THAT WE THINK ARE APPROPRIATE THIS TIME.

AND WE'RE HOPING SOME HOME IMPROVEMENT KINDS OF GRANTS OR LOANS AND AND SOME OF THE STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS.

IF YOU LOOK AT JOHN NOBLE'S ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE STREET, IT'S VERY PLAIN AND WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING TO DRESS THAT UP.

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KERRY, ON PARK, ON THE SOCCER FIELD AND THE ART INSTALLATION THAT IS EXPECTED THERE.

SO THERE'S WE WANT THIS TO BE A HOLISTIC APPROACH TO THAT ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD, NOT JUST SOMETHING THAT STOPS AT THE BORDERS OF THE OF THE MALL.

THE OTHER THING I WAS GOING TO MENTION QUICKLY, I TALKED EARLIER ABOUT CLOSED SESSIONS AND REAL ESTATE DEALS.

FIRST OF ALL, I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT CLOSED SESSIONS DO NOT INCLUDE APPLICANTS.

THE CLOSED SESSIONS ARE ONLY ATTENDED BY CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF, ATTORNEYS, CITY'S ATTORNEY. AND IT'S FOR THE PURPOSES OF DEALING WITH REAL ESTATE POINTS THERE.

THERE ARE A NUMBER OF REAL ESTATE ISSUES THAT HAVE TO BE RESOLVED HERE IN ORDER FOR THE SALE OF THE PROPERTY TO OCCUR.

YOU WOULDN'T BELIEVE HOW MANY IN THAT 20 ACRES, HOW MANY PARCELS AND EASEMENTS AND IN UTILITIES AND AND OTHER ISSUES THAT HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED IN A LOT OF THOSE WILL HAVE TO COME FORWARD AS PART OF THE AGREEMENT OR PRIOR TO ANY AGREEMENT THAT WE DO FOR THE ACTUAL SALE OF PROPERTY. SOME PART OF THAT PROPERTY THE CITY WILL RETAIN AS A.

ENVISIONED RIGHT NOW, THE PARK, FOR INSTANCE, WILL REMAIN A CITY PARK.

IT'LL BE CONTROLLED BY THE CITY.

SO THERE'S A LOT MORE TO COME AND WE'LL BE BRINGING THIS FORWARD.

THIS HAS BEEN EXCITING.

I'M SUPPOSED TO RETIRE, BUT BY GOLLY, I'M STICKING AROUND TO BE PART OF THIS, TOO, SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT, TOO.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

YOU'RE A RESIDENT. YOU GET TO PAY TAXES LIKE THE REST OF US.

YEAH. SO WE HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS THAT CAME IN.

THE CITY CLERK DID NOT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET TO US.

THERE WASN'T ANYBODY AT THE TIME.

SO WE HAVE MR. REVEREND PETERS.

PETERSON IS NOT ON. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY THAT SOMEBODY WANTED TO HAVE READ IN THE RECORD. SO I WILL LET THAT GO FORWARD.

AND MR. PETERS, IS REVEREND APPEARS NOT ON THERE.

HE'S NOT ON. AND I EMAILED HIM, BUT I'M NOT GETTING A RESPONSE.

SO HE IF HE WANTS TO IF HE DOESN'T MAKE THIS, THEN HE CAN ALWAYS COMMENT AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING TOMORROW. OK, SO I WILL READ THE OTHER COMMENT.

THERE, MAYBE. BEAR WITH ME FOR A MINUTE.

OK. I DID RECEIVE A PUBLIC COMMENT FOR A GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, AND THE EMAIL IS FROM KOCZELA THREE HUNDRED AND SIXTY FIVE.

I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO EXPRESS MY DISAPPOINTMENT ON NEWLY APPOINTED COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ. I HAVE FOR HIS ARREST FOR DRUNK DRIVING.

THAT IS A TERRIBLE EXAMPLE TO SET TO THE PUBLIC.

IT WAS A SELFLESS ACT COMMITTED THAT TAKES AWAY ALL CREDIBILITY OF NOT ONLY THE COMMISSIONER, BUT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ. I HEARD THAT BEFORE YOU SMASHED INTO COULD HAVE BEEN A CHILD, COULD HAVE BEEN A FAMILY MEMBER.

IT COULD HAVE BEEN A SENIOR CITIZEN.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO NOTE THAT HE WAS YET TO APOLOGIZE.

HE HAS YET TO APOLOGIZE FOR HIS ACTIONS.

AND ALL THAT THE CITY HAS DONE IS TO ENABLE HIM TO BY PROPOSING A SINCERE POLICY TO PROTECT HIS FEELINGS.

BEING AN APPOINTED MEMBER OF THE CITY OF INDIO IS A GREAT HONOR, BUT COMES WITH A GREAT RESPONSIBILITY. I HOPE YOU GET THE HELP YOU NEED AND USE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE HORRID EFFECTS OF DRUNK DRIVING.

AS FOR COMMISSIONER MEMBERS THAT RULE THEIR EYESIGHT AND LOOK ANNOYED ME, ANNOYED ME EXERCISING MY RIGHT TO PARTICIPATE AND HOLD MY LOCAL OFFICIALS ACCOUNTABLE, I HOPE YOU GIVE THE SAME REACTIONS TO THE PERSON AT FAULT.

EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU HAVE TRIED TO SILENCE ME OR TAKE AWAY MY RIGHT TO PROTEST MY RACE, MY RACE, MY RIGHTS.

IT IS UP TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO REMOVE AND REPLACE PROBLEMATIC COMMISSIONERS THAT LESSEN THE INCREDIBLE FABRIC OF SOCIETY WE LOVE IN INDIO, ESPECIALLY FOR A PLANNING COMMISSIONER. HOW IS THE COMMISSION SUPPOSED TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY WHEN EVERYTHING ABOUT THE POOR CHOICES OF THE PEOPLE YOU, THE COUNCIL APPOINT? ALSO, SINCE THIS IS A JOINT SESSION, CAN YOU ALL PASS AN EMERGENCY RESOLUTION TO DRAFT A LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR THE COMMISSION THAT HAS TO ANSWER TO THE JUSTICE SYSTEM FOR HIS ACTIONS? THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.

CONCERN CITY OF INDIO RESIDENT.

THAT IS ALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, MAYOR.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

I'M SORRY, MISS CITY CLERK, DO WE HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT ON JIM AS WELL? I THOUGHT NO.

MR. PETERS IS NOT A THIRD ONE EMAIL, BUT HE'S NOT ABLE TO BE THERE, SO WE GIVE HIM THE OPPORTUNITY. THERE IS THE MISSIVE.

THERE IS ANOTHER PERSON.

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OK, I HAVE ASKED THEM TO MUTE THEMSELVES.

AND THERE ON THE SCREEN.

AND THAT IS BELONGING TO HAS THE SCREEN NAME LONGING TO ALLOW.

YES, SIR. IF YOU CAN STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, YOU'RE ON FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

PASTOR CARL MCPHETERS.

OH, MR. MCPHETERS, THANK YOU.

YOU HAVE THE FLOOR, SIR, FOR THREE MINUTES.

YOU ARE ABLE TO SPEAK IT.

WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THAT'S QUITE A TASK. THREE MINUTES FOR 30 YEARS, THAT ORDEAL.

THANK YOU ALL FOR THIS MEETING.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN SHERMAN, FOR MAKING AWARE OF THIS MEETING TONIGHT.

AND FOR ALL OF THOSE OF EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOUR COMMENTS, I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO START BECAUSE IT'S BEEN 30 YEARS.

I'VE BEEN PASTORING HERE IN THIS CITY, MR. HAGEN, I GUESS WE HAVE ONE THING IN COMMON AND IS THAT MY DAUGHTER WAS BORN IN 1983 AT JFK. SO I'VE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME, A PASTOR HERE ON JOHN NOBLES, 8223 JOHN NOBLES FOR SINCE 1995.

I STARTED PASTORING IN THE CITY OF INDIO.

IN 1998, I WAS PRESIDENT OF THE NAACP IN NINETEEN EIGHTY EIGHT WHEN.

PASTOR CAROLYN TYLER WAS THE PASTOR OF FIRST ARMY IN THE CITY, APPROACHED HER ABOUT A HOME IMPROVEMENT PROJECT THAT ULTIMATELY TURNED INTO AN INTIMATE DOMAIN.

THE MERE MENTION OF A DOLLAR.

RENTAL AGREEMENT, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S RELEVANT, BUT THAT CAME ABOUT BECAUSE THE CITY FILED INTIMATE DOMAIN AND AS A RESULT OF EMINENT DOMAIN, EARLENE OLIVER, REPRESENTING HOMEOWNERS WITH THE HELP OF THE NAACP LEGAL DEFENSE FUND, FILED A LAWSUIT AGAINST THE CITY OF INDIO. AND IN 1993, THEY CAME TO AN AGREEMENT.

NAACP [INAUDIBLE] REPRESENTING EARLY [INAUDIBLE] AND HOMEOWNERS WHO DID NOT WANT TO SALE, AGREE IN PRINCIPLE.

AND A CONSENT DECREE WAS SIGNED BY THE NAACP ON BEHALF OF EARLENE OLIVER AND THE CITY OF INDIO TO RELOCATE THE HOMEOWNERS, BUSINESSES AND CHURCHES.

IN 1993, THE CITY OF INDIO CHOSE TO.

NOT FULFILLED ITS OBLIGATION, AND IN BUILDING THE CHURCHES, WE WERE LEFT ON OUR OWN, TOLD TO, IF WE DIDN'T LIKE IT, RESEW THAT CAME ABOUT IN EARLY.

2020 ONTO THE CITY MANAGER GLENN SELLER GAVE US THE TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT OFFER BECAUSE THE CITY OF INDIO WALKED AWAY FROM A CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT.

AND SO WE THEN WERE FORCED INTO TAKING MONEY TO BUILD CHURCHES THAT WE WEREN'T PREPARED TO BUILD. AND I'LL MAKE AN EXCUSE.

ONLY ONE OR TWO CHURCHES HAVE BEEN REBUILT.

I OFFERED.

WELL, I SUGGEST IT AND IN MY NEGOTIATION ON THE BUYOUT OR THE SALE OF THE CURRENT BUILDING, THAT WE OCCUPY A PART OF THE AGREEMENT AND NO ONE NOT.

AND WE NEVER IMAGINED STILL BEING HERE SINCE FOR TWENTY YEARS, TWENTY FIVE YEARS, THAT I NEVER IMAGINED THAT THAT DOLLAR WOULD LOOM.

SO LARGELY BECAUSE HAD NOT, I ASKED FOR THAT RENTAL AGREEMENT, PART OF THE SALE OF WE WOULD BE IN A WORSE SHAPE THAN WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW.

AND SO AFTER A GENOCIDE THAT TOOK PLACE 30 YEARS AGO AND THE PEOPLE, THE WONDERFUL PEOPLE THAT LIVED HERE, THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE, AFRICAN-AMERICANS, PREDOMINANTLY LIVED IN THIS AREA, HOMEOWNERS, BUSINESS OWNERS WOULD DISPLACE DISCOMBOBULATED A VOTING BLOCK OF PEOPLE WERE ERADICATED.

IT'S A BEAUTIFUL COMPLEX THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING, BUT THAT SAME COMPLEX AND IN PRINCIPLE WAS OFFERED 30 YEARS AGO AND ONLY THING WE HAVE LEFT TO SHOW FOR IT IS A NON COMMUNITY BLACK COMMUNITY THAT'S THAT'S DISPERSED GENOCIDE.

THE PEOPLE, HUMAN BEINGS, LESTER AND GENEVIEVE, WHILE THEY WERE THE PASTOR OF THIS CHURCH

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SO WE'RE HOLDING ON AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO TO KEEP OUR FAITH IN THE LORD.

WE KNOW THAT TIME IS RUNNING OUT HERE.

I WAS NEVER MY INTENTION TO BE HERE.

AND AGAIN, I THINK THAT THE HOMEOWNERS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WAS DISPLACED NEED TO BE ACKNOWLEDGED. I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED AT THE COUNCIL MEMBER THAT REPRESENTS THIS DISTRICT HAVE SUCH A NEGATIVE ATTITUDE ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF THIS BUILDING BEING USED AS A HISTORICAL MUSEUM AND A COMMUNITY CENTER.

I HAVE SURVEYED I DID A SURVEY OF THIS COMMUNITY AND TOOK DOWN.

GOTTEN WRITTEN SIGNATURES FROM THE RESIDENTS REGARDING THIS BUILDING AND KEEPING THIS BUILDING FOR OUR COMMUNITY LOCATION FOR COMMUNITY CENTER, CHILD CARE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. I'M NOT HERE TO OPPOSE THIS PROJECT.

I'M HERE TO MAKE YOU APPEAL TO YOU ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF NOT FORGETTING THIS COMMUNITY AND FORGETTING WHAT HAPPENED.

TO SEE THE VIDEO COLLECTED EIGHT MILLION DOLLARS FROM MILLER'S OUTPOST IN 1995 AFTER SIGNING AN AGREEMENT TO RELOCATE OUR CHURCHES, POCKETED THE MONEY AND REFUSED TO BUILD THE CHURCHES THEY AGREED TO BUILD.

AND SO, AGAIN, I DIDN'T I DON'T WANT TO RAIN ON THIS PARADE BECAUSE IT IS A BEAUTIFUL COMPLEX. BUT WE'VE BEEN SHOWN COMPLEXES BEFORE AND NOTHING EVER CAME OUT OF HERE AND THEN DEFINITELY NEVER BENEFITED OUR COMMUNITY.

SO I WOULD HOPE, MR. HAGAN, THAT WE CAN SIT DOWN TOGETHER AND WE CAN TALK AND WE CAN WORK OUT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO THE PEOPLE WHO WERE DISPLACED.

THEY SHOULD NOT BE FORGOTTEN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR YOUR YOUR YOUR LISTENING AND APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS.

AND THANK YOU, MR. ORTIZ, [INAUDIBLE], THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU, REVEREND MCPETERS, FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

AND OUR CITY MANAGER HEARD YOUR COMMENTS AND WE'LL LOOK INTO WHAT WE DO.

THE CITY OF ANGELS STILL OWNS THIS PROPERTY.

SO WE WILL WILL BE IN DISCUSSIONS WITH YOU AND OUR CITY MANAGER.

WE'LL GET IN TOUCH WITH YOU WITH XHTML.

IF THERE IS NO OTHER MORNING, WE WILL ADJOURN AT SEVEN ONE.

I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD.

MR. MILLER, CAN I ACTUALLY ADDRESS SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WERE GIVEN TODAY AND IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA. AND ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT COMMENTS FOR THE PROJECT OR COMMENTS FOR MR. MCPETERS. COMMENTS TOWARDS MY PLANNING COMMISSIONER AND THEN ALSO COMMENTS TOWARDS THE LAWSUITS THAT MR. PETERS BROUGHT UP OF I'LL DEFER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH YOU DEFENDING YOUR COMMISSIONER OR TALKING ABOUT THAT.

BUT ON THE REST OF IT, I THINK WE NEED TO LEAVE IT TOWARDS ANOTHER TIME, WHICH IT NOT AGENDA. AND IF COMMISSIONER ORTIZ, IF YOU WANT TO ALLOW CHANGE UNDER GENERAL, YOU KNOW, EXCUSE ME, COUNSEL COMMENTS, THAT WOULD BE FINE.

HOWEVER, I WOULD CAUTION WITH RESPECT TO ANY LITIGATION OR PREVIOUSLY ALLEGATION THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU THAT YOUR COMMENTS, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU'RE CAREFUL IN YOUR COMMENTS IS I WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO DISCUSS THAT WITH THE CITY MANAGER.

BUT PLEASE GO AHEAD. OK.

FIRST, I JUST WANTED TO TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW EVERYBODY PRESENT THAT I HAVE ADDRESSED THE ISSUE WITH COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

AND WE'VE HAD A FEW LONG TALKS ABOUT THE SERIOUSNESS OF HIS MISTAKE AND ALSO TALKED ABOUT HOW TO MAKE SURE THAT WE BOTH AVOID ANY ANY MISTAKES LIKE THIS GOING FORWARD.

AND THROUGH OUR CONVERSATIONS, YOU KNOW, I'M CONFIDENT THAT NOTHING LIKE THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN WITH MR. RODRIGUEZ. AND HE'S SPOKEN TO ALL OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS ALREADY AND LET THEM KNOW ABOUT THE SITUATION AND HOW HE'S ADDRESSING THE SITUATION TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD RESPONSIBLY. AND, YOU KNOW, I JUST I LOOK FORWARD TO LEAVING THAT IN OUR PAST AND GIVING MR. RODRIGUEZ THAT SECOND CHANCE TO BE A GREAT REPRESENTATIVE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

AND I REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO TO SEE HIM BRING HIS HIS KNOWLEDGE AND HIS EXPERIENCE IN PLANNING TO OUR PLANNING COMMISSION AS FAR AS THE LITIGATION.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF STAFF CAN BRING THAT FORWARD TO OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS AND PRESENT THAT INFORMATION TO US SO WE CAN TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT WITH OUR DECISION. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. ORTIZ. WITH THAT, WE WILL ADJOURN A MEETING AGAIN.

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AND COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU FOR THE JOINT MEETING WITH US, MR. HAGEN, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEVELOPMENT.

GOOD NIGHT. 7:05.

GOD BLESS. AND WE'LL SEE YOU HERE TOMORROW FOR THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, FIVE O'CLOCK.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.