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>> LET'S CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER FOR THE CITY OF INDIO PLANNING COMMISSION JANUARY

[1. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL]

[00:00:10]

13, 2021, AT 6:04 P.M.

IF WE COULD HAVE ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

>> CHAIRPERSON GLORIA FRANZ.

>> PRESENT.

>> VICE CHAIRPERSON JACQUELINE LOPEZ.

>> PRESENT.

>> COMMISSIONER NICCO YSIANO.

>> PRESENT.

>> COMMISSIONER ERIC CEJA.

>> PRESENT.

>> COMMISSIONER CHRISTIAN RODRIGUEZ CEJA.

>> PRESENT.

>> THANK YOU.

IF WE CAN NOW HAVE INTRODUCTION OF STAFF.

>> GOOD EVENING, MADAME CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

TONIGHT'S STAFF INCLUDES NIKKI GOMEZ, ASSISTANT PLANNER, ROSIE LUA ASSOCIATE PLANNER, VANESSA CASTILLO, OFFICE ASSISTANT, KEVIN SNYDER, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR, BRIAN TRULY, ASSISTANT CHIEF OF POLICE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, ZACH HEINSELMAN, OUR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY, THE NEW DAD.

>> THANK YOU, LEILA.

FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO WISH EVERYONE A HAPPY NEW YEAR AND HOPE THEY HAD A NICE HOLIDAY SEASON, AND IF WE COULD HAVE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND IF WE COULD HAVE NICCO, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO LEAD US?

>> OF COURSE.

PLEASE JOIN ME IN OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICAS AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

UNFORTUNATE.

>> THANK YOU.

AND AT THIS POINT WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ROTATION OF CANARY AND VICE CHAIR.

[4. ROTATION OF CHAIR AND VICE-CHAIR]

OF CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR.

I DON'T KNOW WHO IS TAKING THE LEAD ON THIS.

>> I'D BE HAPPY TO JUMP IN.

SO PURSUANT TO THE INDIO MUNICIPAL CODE, EVERY YEAR THE CHAIRS OF THE VARIOUS COMMISSIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY ROTATE BASED ON SENIORITY.

THIS IS THE FIRST REGULAR MEETING AFTER THE COUNCIL ROTATION OF MAYOR SO WE'RE AT THE TIME TO THANK CHAIR FRANZ FOR HER SERVICE AS CHAIR LAST YEAR AND ROTATE TO THE NEW CHAIR WHICH THIS YEAR, BASED ON SENIORITY, WOULD BE COMMISSIONER LOPEZ, AND ASCENDING INTO THE VICE CHAIR POSITION WOULD BE COMMISSIONER YSIANO.

>> EXCELLENT.

OKAY.

CONGRATULATIONS, JACKIE.

ALL YOURS.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER FRANZ.

IT WAS SUCH A GREAT HONOR TO BE YOUR VICE CHAIR FOR THE LAST YEAR, AND I KNOW I HAVE SOME BIG SHOES TO FILL, ABOUT IT JUST WANT THOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP IN LEADING US THIS LAST YEAR, AND AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COUNCILWOMAN LUPE RAMOS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE AGAIN.

SO I GUESS AT THIS POINT WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE A STATEMENT FROM THE

[5. STATEMENT FROM THE COMMISSION SECRETARY]

COMMISSIONER SECRETARY.

>> THE GENERAL RULES FOR VIRTUAL MEETINGS ARE AS FOLLOWS.

P THE VIRTUAL MEETINGS.

PARTICIPANTS MUST MUTE ALL LIVE STREAMING DEVICES TO AVOID PLAYBACK WHEN SPEAKING.

MEETING PARTICIPANTS MUST MUTE THEIR MICROPHONE TO KEEP BACKGROUND NOISE TO A MINIMUM.

IN WHEN THEY ARE NOT SPEAKING.

WHEN YOUR MICROPHONE IS NOT MUTED, AVOID ACTIVITIES THAT COULD CREATE ADDITIONAL NOISE POSITION YOUR CAMERA PROPERLY.

IF YOU CHOOSE TO USE A WEB.

CAM, BE SURE IT IS IN A STABLE POSITION AND NEXT ON FOCUSED AT EYE LEVEL.

IF YOU WILL BE SHOWING CONTENT DURING THE MEETING, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE FILES AND/OR LINKS READY TO GO BEFORE THE MEETING BEGINS MEMBERS FROM THE PUBLIC WISHING TO PROVIDE ORAL TESTIMONY MUST FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS ON THE.

AGENDA AND/OR ONLINE IN ORDER TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR AGENDA OR NON-AGENDA ITEMS MEMBERS FROM THE PUBLIC WISHING TO PROVIDE ORAL TESTIMONY HAVE THREE MINUTES TO PROVIDE ORAL TESTIMONY.

>> THANK YOU, VANESSA.

AND I GUESS AT THIS TIME WE HAVE A STATEMENT FROM OUR CITY ATTORNEY.

[6. STATEMENT FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY]

>> THANK YOU, CHAIR.

THERE HAVE BEEN NO DIRECTIVES ISSUES TEMPORARILY HALTING LOCAL GOVERNMENT PROCESSING OF LANDS USE AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW APPLICATIONS AND ORE CONVERSATION POLICY ACTIONS, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENTS, ZONING CODE AMENDMENTS OR NEW OR SPECIFIC PLANS THEREFORE THE CITY OF INDIO CONTINUES TO ACCEPT AND PROCESS APPLICATIONS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE STATE

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AND LOCAL REQUIREMENTS.

THE CITY OF INDIO IS FOLLOWING EXECUTIVE ORDER N-29-20 PERTAINING TO THE BROWN ACT.

THESE EXECUTIVE ORDERS ALLOW ENTITIES TO CONDUCT MEETINGS BY ELECTRONIC MEANS AND FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO OBSERVE THE MEETING ELECTRONICALLY AS WELL AS PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT OR PUBLIC TESTIMONY TELEPHONICALLY OR OTHERWISE TELEPHONICALLY.

ACCORDINGLY, THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION ARE CURRENTLY CONDUCTING SCHEDULED MEETINGS IN A VIRTUAL MEETING FORMAT.

THE CITY OF INDIO HAS IMPLEMENTED TECHNOLOGY SOLUTIONS THAT ALLOW MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO OBSERVE AND/OR PUBLIC COMMENT AS WELL AS PUBLIC TESTIMONY DURING PUBLIC HEARINGS AT SCHEDULED PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS.

THE CITY IS PROVIDING PUBLIC FOR TO PROVIDE CAN PUBLIC OPPORTUNITY AND ALSO REQUIRING THE PROCESSING OF LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW APPLICATIONS AND/OR CONSIDERATION OF POLICY ACTIONS.

>> THANK YOU, ZACH.

WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.

THIS IS THE TIME SET ASIDE FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

SO DO WE HAVE ANY -- ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR TONIGHT?

>> THERE WAS ONE WRITTEN COMMENT THAT WAGS RECEIVED FOR AN ITEM NOT ON THE AGENDA.

THE COMMENT WAS DISTRIBUTED TO THE COMMISSIONERS AND POSTED ONLINE.

>> THANK YOU, VANESSA.

AND WE HAVE NO MINUTES.

AND SHOULD WE GO TO ITEM 9 THE PUBLIC HEARING.

[9.1 The 52 Ranch – Tentative Tract Map No. 37756 (TTM 19-10-478) & Environmental Assessment 19-11-545 (EA 19-11-545)]

T ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT 191-1545.

AND ROSIE, DO YOU HAVE A REPORT FOR US?

>> SORRY ABOUT THAT.

GOOD EVENING, MADAME CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

ROSIE LUA, ASSOCIATE PLANNER WITH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

TODAY I BRING BEFORE YOU FOR CONSIDERATION THE 52 RANCH.

IT IS A TENTATIVE TRACT MAP AND AN ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT.

THIS PROJECT IS LOCATED 4100 FEET NORTH OF AVENUE 38 AND ON THE EAST SIDE OF ADAMS STREET.

IT IS A 34-ACRE PARCEL, AND THIS WAS BEFORE YOU ON NOVEMBER 25, 2020 FOR CONSIDERATION, WHICH REQUESTED A CONTINUATION FOR TODAY.

BUT AGAIN, THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED FURTHER CONTINUATION OF THIS PROJECT TO REVIEW AND ANALYZE IT FURTHER TO FEBRUARY 10, 2021.

THEREFORE, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THIS ITEM GET CONTINUED FOR THAT DATE.

AND THAT CONCLUDES MY STAFF REPORT.

THE APPLICANT IS HERE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.

>> THANK YOU.

SO, ZACH, DO WE OPEN THIS FOR ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS PROJECT?

>> CHAIR, YES.

JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THIS HEARING HAS BEEN CONTINUED FROM THE PREVIOUS NOVEMBER 25TH MEETING.

WE CAN ACCEPT PUBLIC TESTIMONY AT THIS POINT, AND THEN, SHOULD YOU WISH TO FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, SEEK TO CONTINUE THE HEARING TO FEBRUARY 10TH.

>> SO THEN AT THIS POINT, THEN, THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE APPLICANT TO SAY A FEW WORDS IF HE WANTS TO?

>> CORRECT.

YOU CAN PROVIDE -- >> OKAY.

>> NO NEED TO CLOSE THE HEARING NOW.

YOU CAN OFFER THE APPLICANT THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT OR SEE IF POLICE OTHER PUBLIC TESTIMONY SUBMITTED, AND THEN SHOULD YOU WISH TO FOLLOW THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AT THAT POINT, YOU COULD CONTINUE THE MEETING TO THE FEBRUARY 10TH.

>> DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE ANY TESTIMONY? OR ANY COMMENTS?

>> HELLO.

THIS IS RICK WITH MICHAEL BAKER INTERNATIONAL.

CAN YOU HEAR ME?

>> YES.

>> GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

AT THIS TIME WE DON'T HAVE ANY PRESENTATION TO DO.

PROBABLY AT THE NEXT HEARING WE WOULD HAVE A PRESENTATION AT THAT TIME.

>> OKAY.

THANK YOU.

SO AT THIS POINT I GUESS WE ASK IS THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM OUR COMMISSIONERS OR DO

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WE HAVE A MOTION TO RESCHEDULE AND CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING TO FEBRUARY

10TH AT 6:00 P.M.? >> I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE THE ITEM -- H'M?

>> PARDON ME IF I COULD, CHAIR.

I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY WHETHER OR NOT ANY PUBLIC TESTIMONY WAS RECEIVED ON THIS ITEM BEFORE PROCEEDING WITH THE MOTION TO CONTINUE.

>> NO PUBLIC TESTIMONY WAS RECEIVED.

>> THANK YOU.

>> OKAY.

NOW I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND CONTINUE THE ITEM TO FEBRUARY 10, 2021 AT 6:00 P.M.

>> DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

>> I'LL SECOND.

>> IT'S NICCO.

SO WE DO A ROLL CALL.

>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ.

>> YES.

>> VICE CHAIRPERSON YSIANO.

>> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER CEJA.

>> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ CEJA.

>> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER FRANZ.

>> YES.

>> MOTION CARRIES 5-0.

>> NOW WE MOVE ON TO OUR REGULAR ITEMS, WHICH IS 9.2, SHIRAZ RUG TENTATIVE PARCEL

[9.2 Shiraz Rug Tentative Parcel Map No. 37999 (TPM 20-10-406)]

MAP NUMBER 37999.

ROSIE, THIS IS YOURS AGAIN.

>> YES, GOOD EVENING.

ROSIE LUA ASSOCIATE PLANNER WITH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

TODAY'S ITEM FOR CONSIDERATION THE SHIRAZ RUG.

IT IS A TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP.

THIS TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP LOCATION IS JEFFERSON PLAZA WHICH IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF HIGHWAY 111 AND EAST OF JEFFERSON STREET.

IT IS A PARCEL THAT IS 2.60 ACRES.

THIS COMMERCIAL CENTER IS FULLY DEVELOPED AND OPERATIONAL.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE THREE BUILDINGS ON THIS SITE.

BUILDING A IS A TWO TENANT BUILDING, SHIRAZ RUG IS HERE.

A SINGLE TENANT BUILDING.

AND THEN THERE IS 11 TENANTS WITHIN THIS TENANT BUILDING HERE.

THE CONSIDERATION FOR THE TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 37999 IS FOR THREE -- A SUB DIVISION OF THREE PARCELS.

PARCEL 1 WOULD BE 70.

57 ACRES.

PARCEL 2, 2.54 ACRES.

AND PARCEL 3 IS 1.49 ACRES.

AS YOU CAN SEE, EACH PARCEL TAKES IN AN ASSOCIATED BUILDING AND PARKING AREA.

IT HAS BEEN ANALYZED FOR ITS ZONING CONFORMANCE OF THE HIGHWAY 111 CORRIDOR, AND BETTER KNOWN AS THE MUSP 300.

THEY MEET THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AS WELL AS THE USES OF THAT ZONING.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE HAS BEEN -- THE SUBDIVISION INCLUDES SHARED PARKING AS WELL AS COMMON AREAS, SO THERE HAS BEEN AGREEMENTS FOR THE SHARED PARKING THAT'S REQUIRED FOR THIS PROJECT, AS WELL AS COVENANTS THAT WILL COVER THE MAINTENANCE AND COMMON AREAS TO CONTINUE AS A SHARED USE.

AND WITH THAT, STAFF CONCLUDES WITH THE ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION 1972, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP NUMBER 37999 TO SUBDIVIDE THE 2.60 ACRES THAT IS A SINGLE PARCEL WITH A FULLY IMPROVED OPERATIONAL SHOPPING CENTER INTO THREE LEGAL LOTS FOR THE PURPOSE OF SALE, LEASE AND FINANCING WITHIN THE JEFFERSON PLAZA.

THAT CONCLUDES MY STAFF REPORT.

THE APPLICANT IS HERE.

THEY HAVE NOT REQUESTED TO SPEAK, BUT THEY ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>> THANK YOU, ROSIE.

DO ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ROSIE, FOR STAFF? OKAY.

SO I GUESS NOW IT'S THE APPLICANT'S TURN TO SPEAK, CORRECT?

>> CORRECT.

YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND, IF YOU'D LIKE, OPEN THE HEARING, OFFER THE APPLICANT THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, SEE IF THERE'S ANY PUBLIC TESTIMONY.

>> OKAY.

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SO GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE MEETING.

IT'S PUBLIC TESTIMONY.

DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? SEEING THAT THERE'S NONE, SO I GUESS THE APPLICANT CAN SPEAK.

>> YES.

THE APPLICANT CAN SPEAK DURING THIS PORTION OR IF THERE'S QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT FROM THE COMMISSIONERS, NOW WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE TIME FOR THAT AS WELL.

>> THIS IS DOUG FRANKLIN FROM THE ALTMAN GROUP.

CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME OKAY?

>> YES.

>> OKAY.

GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS.

CITY STAFF.

I'M THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE ALTMAN GROUP, AND SO AS ROSIE SAID, OUR ENTIRE TEAM, THE PROPERTY OWNER, SHIRAZ RUGS, THE SURVEYOR AND THE BROKERS ARE ALL HERE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR US.

>> THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? SEEING THERE'S NONE, I'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> I'M SORRY.

IF I MAY INTERRUPT QUICKLY, CHAIR, I WOULD JUST CHECK AND SEE IF THERE WAS ANY PUBLIC TESTIMONY BEFORE CLOSING THE HEARING.

I HEARING AND TURN TO DELIBERATIONS.

THANK YOU.

>> THERE WAS NO PUBLIC TESTIMONY RECEIVED.

>> SO YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC -- OKAY.

>> CORRECT.

>> SO IT'S CLOSED.

OKAY.

SO I GUESS WE'LL GO AHEAD AND, IF ANY OF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY COMMENTS, CLOSING COMMENTS.

IF NOT, DO I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION?

>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 1972 AND TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 379MAN 99 TO SUB DIVIDE IT THE 3.6 AREAS, AFTER FULLY PARCEL WITH A FULLY OPERATIONAL SHOPPING CENTER.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER FRANZ.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

>> I WILL.

>> MADAME CHAIR.

MADAME CHAIR, IF I MAY.

>> YES.

>> THERE WAS A MEMO THAT WAS SENT TO YOU EARLIER TODAY OR PROBABLY YESTERDAY.

I APOLOGIZE, FOR A CORRECTION ON THE ADDITION OF APPROVAL NUMBER 7, SECTION B.

AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE THAT AS A RECOMMENDATION THAT STAFF HAS A RECOMMENDATION FOR A CORRECTION, AND THAT WOULD BE FOR RESOLUTION 1972.

>> SORRY ABOUT THAT.

I FORGOT.

YES, WE WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT CONDITION TO THE MOTION.

>> SO THIS IS ZACH HEINSELMAN HERE.

I'M JUST CLARIFYING.

SO THE MOTION NOW WOULD BE TO ADOPT THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, INCLUDING THE AMENDMENT TO CONDITIONAL APPROVAL NUMBER 7, ADOPTING RESOLUTION 1971 FOR THE COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP.

>> YES.

>> DO WE NEED TO RE-SECOND THAT MOTION?

>> THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

>> DO I HAVE A SECOND?

>> SECOND, PLEASE.

>> THANK YOU, NICCO.

SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND DO ROLL CALL.

>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ.

>> YES.

>> VICE CHAIRPERSON YSIANO.

>> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER CEJA.

>> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ CEJA.

>> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER FRANZ.

>> YES.

>> MOTION CARRIES 5-0.

>> THANK YOU.

OKAY.

NEXT WE HAVE ITEM 9.3 WHICH IS THE INDIO MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING-DESIGN REVIEW 20-02-471.

AND NIKKI, YOU'RE UP.

>> THANK YOU.

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THANK YOU, MADAME CHAIR.

[9.3 Indio Medical Office Building – Design Review 20-02-471]

I HOPE YOU CAN HEAR ME AND SEE MY SCREEN SHARED.

THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING, MADAME CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

MY NAME IS NIKKI GOMEZ, ASSISTANT PLANNER, AND BEFORE YOU IS THE INDIO MEDICAL OFFICE DESIGN REVIEW 20-02-471.

THE PROJECT SITE IS LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF ROAD AND BUFFALO TRAIL.

IT IS ENCOMPASSING 3.8-ACRE LOT.

AND JUST TO HIGHLIGHT THIS PRIVATE STREET HERE, IT'S THE JFK COURT.

AS YOU MAY RECALL, THE INDIO BEHAVIORAL HOSPITAL WILL BE COMING DIRECTLY SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

IT IS ZONED COMMERCIAL OFFICE AND GENERAL PLAN DESIGNATION OF MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO THE SITE PLAN.

THE SITE PLAN ENTAILS A 32,569 BUILDING FOOTPRINT.

ACCESS TO THE PROJECT SITE COMES FROM CHEYENNE ROAD AS WELL AS THE MAIN ENTRANCE REALLY TO THE PROJECT SITE IS FROM JFK COURT, WHICH IS THE PRIVATE STREET TO THE SOUTH OF THE BUILDING.

IT IS A TWO-STORY BUILDING SO THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THIS FACILITY IS 49,990 SQUARE FEET WITH 230 PARKING SPACES ALLOCATED FOR THE TENANTS AND THE CLIENTS.

IT'S QUITE LARGE.

I APOLOGIZE IF IT'S QUITE BLURRY.

SO THIS IS THE MAIN FLOOR OF THE BUILDING.

SO IT CONSISTS OF EXAMINING ROOMS, STORAGE ROOMS, WAITING AREA, ELEVATOR TO CENTER TO THE SECOND FLOOR.

AND THE FACILITY IS REALLY FOR X-RAYS, IMAGING, AND THE TRADITIONAL OFFICE PHYSICIAN MEDICAL OFFICE.

SO THE MAJORITY OF THE SCANNING OR WILL OCCUR AT THIS CORNER UP HERE, AND THEN THE REST ARE A COMBINATION OF DOCTORS' OFFICES AND EXAMINING ROOMS, AS WELL AS WAITING AREAS THROUGHOUT THE BUILDING.

AND THE MAIN WAITING AREA IS RIGHT AT THE SOUTH END OF THE BUILDING AS WELL AS HERE AT THE THROUGH THE MAIN BUILDING TO THE SOUTH -- FROM THE SOUTH.

THE SECOND STORY IS UTILIZING THE ENTIRE FOOTPRINT.

IT'S JUST PUSHED TO THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, TECHNICALLY THE SOUTH PORTION OF THE SITE.

AND SO IT'S SIMILAR TO THE VARIETY OF THE FIRST FLOOR, WHICH IS EXAMINING ROOMS AND DOCTORS' OFFICES, AND THE ELEVATOR IS RIGHT HERE AT THE FRONT PORTION OF THE BUILDING.

SO THE ELEVATION, AND I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH.

SO THE SOUTH ELEVATION IS WHAT'S FACING JFK COURT, WHICH IS THAT PRIVATE STREET.

AND THIS IS, YOU CAN CONSIDER THIS THE FRONT ENTRANCE OF THE BUILDING.

THE WEST ELEVATION IS -- WILL BE ABUTTING, NOW WILL BE AN EMPTY VACANT LOT.

THE REMAINING PARCEL OF THAT PORTION IN THE CUL-DE-SAC ON JFK COURT.

THE NORTH ELEVATION WILL BE ABUTTING THE EXISTING COMMERCIAL FACILITY TO THE NORTH, AND THIS IS WHERE THE ACCESS FROM CHEYENNE WILL BE COMING FROM AS A SECONDARY ENTRYWAY TO THE PROJECT SITE.

AND THEN THE EAST ELEVATION WILL BE ALONG CHEYENNE ROAD AS YOU ARE COMING FROM DR. CARREON.

THE LANDSCAPE PLAN IS PROPOSED TO HAVE DESERT MUSEUM AND BIG PALMS ALL ALONG THE PERIMETER OF THE PROJECT, AS WELL AS SHRUBBERY CLOSER TO THE BUILDING ITSELF.

AND SO KNOWING THAT THERE'S A FACILITY TO THE SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY, THEY ARE GOING TO MATCH THAT PERIMETER LANDSCAPING SO THE CHEYENNE ROAD WILL HAVE A CONSISTENT

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LANDSCAPING AS THEY TURN PAST THE INDIO BEHAVIORAL HOSPITAL.

AND SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 1945, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF INDIO, CALIFORNIA, KENNEL APPROVING DESIGN REVIEW 20-02-471 TO CONSIDER DID ARCHITECTURE, SITE PLAN, CIRCULATION, PARKING AND LANDSCAPING OF A TWO-STORY MEDICAL OFFICE TOTALING 49,990 SQUARE FEET WITHIN A 3.90-ACRE LOT, SUBJECT TO THE FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL THEREIN, AND DETERMINING THAT THE PROJECT IS EXEMPT FROM THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT, SECTION 15332, CLASS 32, INFILL DEVELOPMENT.

I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, AND THE OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE AVAILABLE FOR ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, NIKKI.

ANY QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION OR STAFF?

>> I HAD A COUPLE.

NIKKI, WAS THERE ANY EFFORT IN WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT TO MAYBE MOVE THE BUILDING CLOSER TO CHEYENNE ROAD? THE ENTRANCE MAYBE FACE THAT DIRECTION?

>> WHEN THEY WERE -- WHEN WE WERE PRESENTED THE PROJECT AND LOOKING AT THE PROJECT BELOW, THERE IS ALSO PARKING FOR INDIO BEHAVIORAL THAT OCCUPIED ALSO CHEYENNE ROAD, SO THEY WANTED TO OCCUPY THAT SPACE FOR THE PARKING BECAUSE IT REQUIRED A BIT OF PARKING.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THAT WAS IT.

>> OKAY.

THANK YOU.

IN LOOKING AT THE ARCHITECTURE, DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT NORTH ELEVATION, PARTICULARLY THE SECOND FLOOR ELEVATION? IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE'S MUCH OF A FINISH OR ARCHITECTURE TO THAT SIDE OF THE SECOND FLOOR AT ALL.

>> I'M SORRY.

SO SINCE THIS IS THE BACK -- I'M SORRY.

THE SOUTH ELEVATION, RIGHT?

>> THE NORTH, NORTH ELEVATION.

>> THE NORTH ELEVATION.

SO SINCE THIS IS, I GUESS, THE BACK OF THE BUILDING, THEY DIDN'T PUT MORE WINDOWS THERE.

THAT'S WHERE THE ROOF EQUIPMENT WILL GO, AND SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW THE DESIGN WAS, SO THEY FOCUSED IT ON THE FRONT ELEVATION, WHICH IS JUST THE SOUTH ELEVATION.

SO THE ROOF EQUIPMENT WILL OCCUPY THAT SPACE BACK THERE, AND SO CERTAINLY, IF WE WERE TO CALL OUT SOME DELINEATION TO THAT, I COULD DEFINITELY INCLUDE IT IN THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL AND ADD SOME WINDOWS, IF THAT'S THE WISH.

AND, OF COURSE, THE APPLICANT IS HERE IF THAT WOULD BE ALLOWABLE IN THE DESIGN CONFIGURATION OF THE INTERIOR OFFICES.

>> THANK YOU.

THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS?

>> I DO.

OKAY.

SO MY CONCERN IS THAT WE HAVE THE INDIO BEHAVIORAL HOSPITAL MOVING QUICKLY, SHOULD BE COMING OUT OF THE GROUND HERE VERY FAST, AND I'M CURIOUS AS TO WHY THE ARCHITECTURE OF THIS BUILDING DOES NOT IN ANY WAY COMPLEMENT OR AT ALL REFLECT THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE INDI BUILDING.

WAS THAT A CONVERSATION THAT TOOK PLACE WITH THE DEVELOPER?

>> THE WAY THAT IT WAS PRESENTED, IT WAS A STAND-ALONE BUILDING OFFICE SPACE THAT IS UNIQUE TO THEM.

I GUESS THAT WAS THE EXTENT OF THAT COMMUNICATION, THAT WAS THEIR OWN KIND OF IDENTITY AND SEPARATION FROM THE MEDICAL INDIO BEHAVIORAL TO THE SOUTH.

NOW, THE CONVERSATION, TO KIND OF KEEP IT CONTINUOUS, WOULD BE THE LANDSCAPING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE STREETSCAPE CONTINUES, BUT I WOULD BE HAPPY IF THE

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APPLICANT COULD ALSO SHARE THAT THOUGHT AS WELL, IF HE IS OPEN TO THAT CONTINUITY.

>> OKAY.

THAT'S MY ONLY QUESTION FOR NOW.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION.

ACTUALLY IT MIGHT BE MORE FOR THE APPLICANT IN REGARDS TO COMMISSIONER CEJA'S QUESTION ABOUT THE FINISHING ON THE NORTH ELEVATION.

I'M WONDERING, YOU KNOW, THE BUILDING, AND BECAUSE I HAD THIS EXPERIENCE GOING TO TESTS FOR COVID WHERE MY PRIMARY DOCTOR IS, THERE'S REALLY A NEED FOR SHADE, MORE SHADE, AS WE'RE THINKING ABOUT HOW PEOPLE ARE OPERATING AND UTILIZING THESE SERVICES IN THIS AREA.

SO I'M WONDERING IF MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE ADDED IF THIS IS LIKE STORAGE AND WINDOWS MIGHT NOT BE THE MOST USEFUL FOR THIS PORTION OF THE BUILDING.

I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT COULD BE DONE AS FAR AS PROVIDING SHADE.

SO I'M SURE THAT WAS MORE OF A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, BUT I'M WONDERING IF THESE ARE THE TYPES OF QUESTIONS THAT WE'R ALSO AS WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THE DESIGNS FOR THESE TYPES OF FACILITIES.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

OKAY.

SO WE WILL GO AHEAD AND JUST MOVE TO THE APPLICANT.

IF YOU WISH TO ADD ANYTHING -- IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND COME UP AND KIND OF GIVE -- I'M SORRY -- ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS TO THE COMMISSIONERS, PLEASE.

>> CHAIR, IF I MAY INTERRUPT.

I MIGHT JUST RECOMMEND THAT WE OPEN THE HEARING AND THEN I'LL ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO GIVE THEIR PRESENTATION AND RESPOND TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT MAY COME UP AT THAT POINT ONCE YOU'VE OPENED THE HEARING AND INVITED THEM TO GIVE THEIR PRESENTATION.

>> OKAY.

SO AT THIS TIME I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP THE HEARING.

AND IF THE APPLICANT CAN COME UP AND SPEAK TO THE COMMISSION, PLEASE.

>> THIS IS TORY STEPHEN.

CAN YOU HEAR ME?

>> YES, WE CAN.

>> OKAY, GREAT.

I'M THE ARCHITECT AND APPLICANT, THE OWNER OF THE PROJECT IS ALSO WITH US THIS EVENING.

I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS OR RESPOND TO THE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE NORTH ELEVATION AND THE SECOND FLOOR.

WHEN THOSE COLORED ELEVATIONS WERE EXECUTED OVER A YEAR AGO, THERE ARE SOME WINDOWS THAT ARE IN THE PLAN.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE SECOND FLOOR PLAN, THERE IS A CORRIDOR THAT RUNS THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THAT SECOND LEVEL BACK WALL THAT'S THE STEPPED BACK WALL, AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE LITTLE INDENTATIONS WHERE THERE'S WINDOWS THERE INDICATED.

S ARCHITECTURAL ARTICULATION THERE.

AND BEING THE NORTH ELEVATION, YOU'LL NOTICE AROUND THE REST OF THE BUILDING WE HAVE PROVIDED AWNING COVERS OVER MOST OF THE WINDOWS AND ENTRANCES.

WE DIDN'T DO THAT SO MUCH ON THE NORTH ELEVATION BECAUSE OF THE SUN ANGLES USUALLY DON'T REQUIRE THAT.

BUT I'M SURE WE COULD ADD SOME MORE SHADING STRUCTURES OVER THE WINDOWS.

AND THEN REGARDING THE MATCHING OF THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLES WITH THE MENTAL HEALTH FACILITY ACROSS THE STREET, WE STARTED DESIGNING THIS ALMOST A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, AND AT THAT TIME THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH WAS MAYBE A FEW MONTHS AHEAD OF US, BUT THERE WASN'T ANYTHING AVAILABLE THAT WE COULD LOOK AT TO SAY, OH, LET'S COORDINATE OUR ARCHITECTURE TOGETHER.

SO OUR APPROACH WAS TO BASICALLY DESIGN A STAND-ALONE FACILITY THAT -- AND THIS IS BASICALLY WHAT WE ENDED UP WITH.

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AS WE GOT CLOSER TO THE END OF OUR DESIGN PROCESS, WE WERE ABLE TO ACCESS -- I CONTACTED THE OWNER OF THE MENTAL HEALTH FACILITY REGARDING THEIR LANDSCAPING, AND THEY GAVE US THOSE PLANS, AND WE GAVE THOSE TO OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT TO COORDINATE AND MATCH.

FROM THAT STANDPOINT I THINK THE LANDSCAPING WILL BE VERY -- HAVE A LOT OF CONTINUITY TO THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT IN THAT MANNER.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

>> THANK YOU.

DOES THE COMMISSION HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?

>> I DO.

THANK YOU.

HI.

GLORIA FRANZ.

SO I UNDERSTAND THAT IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO GET A BUILDING TO US, AND YOU PROBABLY WERE WORKING ON IT WAY BEFORE THE HOSPITAL WAS APPROVED, SO I UNDERSTAND THAT.

I STILL THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE CITY OF INDIO, AT LEAST THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS BEEN REALLY WORKING HARD, IS TO TRY TO REVITALIZE AND ENERGIZE OUR CITY.

A LOT OF THAT COLOR SCHEME, DESIGN, LANDSCAPING.

WOULD YOU CONSIDER MAYBE EVEN THE COLOR SCHEME, ADJUSTING IT A LITTLE BIT TO BE MORE COMPLEMENTARY, MORE MODERN, VERSUS MORE -- THIS IS MORE TRADITIONAL DESERT COLORS?

>> I WOULD BE TOTALLY GOOD WITH THAT, YES.

>> OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT WAS MY QUESTION.

THANK YOU.

>> I HAD A COUPLE TO FOLLOW UP, THEN.

SO AT LEAST IN THIS PRESENTATION, THE NORTH ELEVATION THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT MAYBE ISN'T ACCURATELY PRESENTED BASED ON THE WINDOWS THAT YOU SEE IN THAT CORRIDOR?

>> CORRECT.

>> AND IS THIS A CONCRETE TILT-UP BUILDING?

>> THAT IS CORRECT.

>> BECAUSE MY NEXT QUESTION IS GOING TO BE RELATED TO THE PARAPETS.

ARE THOSE HIGH ENOUGH? THAT'S PROBABLY A ROOF PLAN I DIDN'T SEE IN OUR PACKET, BUT ARE THOSE GOING TO SCREEN ANY THE ROOF-MOUNTED EQUIPMENT SINCE YOU'RE LOOKING TO PUT THAT ON THAT FIRST LEVEL?

>> IF YOU LOOK AT THE EAST ELEVATION, YOU SEE THAT STEP IN THE ELEVATION PROFILE? THE LOWER PORTION IS THE PORTION THAT'S GOING TO HAVE ALL OF THE MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT, SO THERE WON'T BE ANY MEDICAL EQUIPMENT ON THE ROOF OF THE SECOND FLOOR.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE PLANNED A SCREEN WALL THAT WILL BE STUCCOED AND PAINTED SIMILAR TO THE CONCRETE TILT-UP FINISH MATERIAL THAT WILL CONCEAL ALL OF THE HVAC EQUIPMENT.

>> AND WILL THAT WALL BE VISIBLE, THEN, ABOVE THE PARAPETS SHOWN HERE?

>> YES, IT WILL BE.

IT'S ALWAYS A LITTLE -- ELEVATIONS ARE A BIT DECEPTIVE BECAUSE THEY'RE COMPLETELY DIAGONAL IN THEIR VIEW.

WHEN YOU'RE STANDING ON THE GROUND AND LOOKING UP AT THE BUILDING, YEAH, YOU'LL PROBABLY SEE A LITTLE BIT OF THE TOP OF THE PARAPET, BUT IT WON'T BE A PROMINENT ELEMENT, THAT'S FOR SURE, BUT IT WILL COVER THE EQUIPMENT.

>> OKAY.

WITH THE CONCRETE TILT-UP A LOT OF TIMES, THE WALLS CAN BE PRETTY THIN.

AND LOOKING AT THE PARAPETS THAT YOU'RE SHOWING, DO THEY HAVE ANY RETURNS THAT KIND OF COME BACK INTO THE BUILDING?

>> YES.

>> MAKE IT LOOK LIKE A FULL -- >> YEAH, QUITE A FEW OF THOSE.

I CAN'T STAND IT WHEN THEY LOOK TOO THIN.

>> YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE ELEVATION.

I GUESS YOU CAN'T SEE MY MOUSE.

BUT THE NORTH ELEVATION ON THOSE WINGS HOW THOSE KIND OF RETURN, BUT IT IS HARDER TO TELLING ON PARAPETS DO THE SAME.

>> THEY DO.

ALL OF THEM DO.

>> OKAY.

IN THE DESIGN OF YOUR BUILDING, YOU HAVE THE EAST ELEVATION, WHICH IS FACING THE PUBLIC STREET.

>> YES.

>> HAD YOU LOOKED AT ANY ADDITIONAL ENHANCEMENTS TO REALLY EMPHASIZE YOUR ARRIVAL TO THIS BUILDING AT THIS LOCATION, THE EAST ELEVATION?

>> WELL, OUR FOCUS WAS THE ARRIVAL POINT IS TO THE SOUTH.

THAT'S REALLY WHERE MOST OF THE VEHICULAR TRAFFIC IS GOING ENTER THE SITE, IS FROM THE SOUTH COMING OFF OF THE JFK COURT.

AND I GET A LITTLE NERVOUS ABOUT EMPHASIZING AN ELEVATION OR AN ENTRY POINT

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TO A BUILDING THAT'S REALLY NOT GOING TO SERVE THAT PURPOSE.

ON THE EAST ELEVATION, THE DOORWAY THAT'S COMING OFF AND THAT'S COVERED AND SHADED THERE IS BASICALLY A SECONDARY, MORE OF AN EMERGENCY EXIT RATHER THAN AN ENTRY POINT.

IT IS SECURED SO THAT NO ONE CAN ACTUALLY GO INTO THE BUILDING THAT WAY, JUST FROM A SECURITY STANDPOINT.

>> YEAH, I THINK I'D LIKE TO SEE -- I SAW SOME OF THE OTHER MEDICAL BUILDINGS IN THAT AREA, AND, YEAH, THEY HAVE KIND OF A SIDE PROFILE OR MAIN ENTRANCE TO THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING BUT THEY STILL HAVE SOME KIND OF ENTRY WALKWAY, SOMETHING THAT PRESENTS WELL TO THE STREET ITSELF.

>> OKAY.

>> I'M NOT SURE IF -- IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A COLUMN IN THE MIDDLE THAT KIND OF BIFURCATES THAT AREA.

>> YES.

THERE'S A COLUMN THERE AND A COVER.

WE COULD CERTAINLY SLIDE THE COLUMN OVER AND ADD ANOTHER ONE SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE SYMMETRY ON THE NORTH ELEVATION WHERE WE HAVE TWO COLUMNS, OPENING UP THE COVER, ENTRY COVER.

>> OKAY.

THAT MIGHT HELP WITH MY NEXT COMMENT.

IN LOOKING AT THAT EAST ELEVATION -- >> COMMISSIONER.

SORRY.

IF I COULD JUST INTERJECT FOR A MINUTE.

THIS MIGHT BE A QUESTION THAT YOU'RE ASKING, BUT TO THE EXTENT THAT WE'RE GETTING INTO COMMENTS OR DELIBERATION, THAT MIGHT APPROPRIATE FOR, ONCE THE HEARING IS CLOSED.

THE DELIBERATION, BUT QUESTIONS NOW ARE APPROPRIATE.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION AND REMINDER.

ARE THOSE UTILITY DOORS ON THAT EAST ELEVATION?

>> WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY UTILITY -- OH, YEAH.

ON THOSE NARROW COLUMN SECTIONS OF THE BUILDING?

>> RIGHT.

>> YEAH, THOSE WOULD BE LIKE TO FIRE RISER ROOM, ELECTRICAL ROOM, THAT KIND OF THING.

>> OKAY.

IS IT POSSIBLE TO RELOCATE THOSE SINCE THAT'S ALSO FACING THE STREET?

>> LET ME LOOK AT MY FLOOR PLAN REAL QUICK.

IT'S -- IT'S POSSIBLE, YES.

WE COULD HAVE THEM FACE AT A 90-DEGREE DIFFERENCE, SO IT WOULD BE FACING MORE THE ENTRYWAY RATHER THAN OUT TO THE PUBLIC.

>> OKAY.

THANK YOU.

>> THAT'S POSSIBLE, YES.

>> I THINK THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS.

>> OKAY.

>> ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS BEFORE WE ASK FOR ANY COMMENTS FROM -- SEE IF THERE'S ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS?

>> I HAVE A COUPLE MORE THAT POPPED INTO MY HEAD.

SORRY.

JUST THE WALKABILITY OF THE SITE, I DID SEE SOME PATHS.

I'M ASSUMING THAT THAT'S BEEN A BIG THING US WITH THE COMMUNITY, THE WALKABILITY INTO THE BUILDING IF SOMEONE HAPPENS TO LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO IT LOOKS LIKE THERE ARE ENTRY POINTS IN ALL THE MAIN AREAS.

AM I SEEING THAT CORRECTLY? ALSO ARE THERE ANY BIKE RACKS OR A PLACE WHERE WE'RE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO USE OTHER MODES OF TRANSPORTATION OTHER THAN A CAR?

>> YOUR FIRST QUESTION REGARDING THE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS POINTS, YOU ARE DIRECT.

THERE'S TWO COMING OFF OF CHEYENNE, AND THEN THERE'S ONE RIGHT IN BETWEEN THE DRIVEWAY ACCESSES OFF OF JFK.

AND THEN THE BICYCLE RACKS, YES, THOSE ARE IN MOST CITIES NOW THAT'S A REQUIREMENT.

I MUST ADMIT I HAVEN'T SPECIFICALLY FIGURED OUT EXACTLY WHERE THEY GO, BUT, YES, WE'LL BE PROVIDING BICYCLE RACKS, YES.

>> GREAT.

ONE MORE QUESTION.

WITH ALL THE REQUIREMENTS FOR RENEWABLE ENERGY, I DON'T SEE THAT THIS BUILDING HAS SOLAR ATTACHED TO IT AT THIS POINT.

I ABILITY TO CONNECT TO SOLAR IN THE FUTURE OR WHERE ARE WE WITH ALTERNATIVE ENERGY?

>> TYPICALLY WE DO THAT WITH ROOFTOP-MOUNTED PHOTOVOLTAIC PANELS.

I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT POSSIBLY PROVIDING SOME COVERED PARKING AT SOME POINT.

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WE WOULD PROBE DO THOSE ALL SOLAR -- PROBABLY DO THOSE ALL SOLAR.

BECAUSE OF THE BUILDING CODES NOW IN CALIFORNIA, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE.

FOR SURE FOR FUTURE.

SO THAT NORMALLY COMES WHEN WE GET A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILED IN OUR CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS WHERE WE PUT IN FOR PLAN CHECK TO PROVIDE THAT.

>> SO IT'S NOT AN ITEM CURRENTLY WITH THIS DESIGN REVIEW.

IT WILL COME LATER, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> CORRECT.

THAT'S CORRECT.

>> OKAY.

I THINK THAT'S THE END OF MY QUESTIONS, CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER FRANZ.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM OTHER COMMISSIONERS?

>> I JUST HAD A CLARIFYING QUESTION.

>> GO AHEAD.

>> THANK YOU.

YOU MENTIONED ABOUT TO CONTINUE THE THOUGHT ABOUT THE SHADED AREA.

YOU WERE SAYING ABOUT POTENTIAL SHADE STRUCTURES FOR THE PARKING, AND THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS INCLUDED IN THIS PARTICULAR PORTION OF THE REVIEW, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING ADDING AT A LATER TIME OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO NOW LOOK INTO MORE SERIOUSLY IS MY QUESTION.

>> IT'S BEEN PRIMARILY SOMETHING WE WERE LOOKING AT DOING IN THE FUTURE.

WE HAD NOT INCLUDED IT IN THE PROJECT AT THIS POINT.

>> I GUESS THE FOLLOW-UP QUESTION IS WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO INCLUDING THAT, EVEN IF IT WASN'T COMPLETE SHADED STRUCTURES OR COMPLETE STRUCTURES TO ALL THE PARKING LOTS BUT MAYBE AT SOME PORTION, PARTICULARLY FOR STAFF, I CAN IMAGINE THAT HOT SUMMER DAYS, YOU LEAVE YOUR CAR OUT THERE FOR EIGHT, NINE HOURS, IT BECOMES A BIT OF A PROBLEM.

SO I'M WONDERING IF MAYBE THERE IS AT THE VERY MINIMUM A PORTION THAT COULD BE ADDED, PARTICULARLY FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE LEAVING THEIR AUTOMOBILES OUT THERE FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME.

>> WELL, I'LL LEAVE THAT ANSWER UP TO WARREN OWENS, BUT WHEN WE STARTED THE DESIGN PROCESS, WE ASKED THE QUESTION IF THERE WAS ANY REQUIREMENT BY THE CITY TO PROVIDE THAT KIND OF SHADED PARKING, AND AS I RECALL, THERE'S NOT ANY ORDINANCE TO REQUIRE IT.

SO LIKE I SAID, I'D DEFER TO WARREN ON MAKING THAT FINANCIAL DECISION AT THIS POINT.

>> YOU CAN HEAR ME NOW?

>> YES, GO AHEAD, WARREN.

>> YEAH, WE HAVE CONSIDERED -- A LOT OF TIMES THE MEDICAL PRACTICES THAT WE PUT IN THERE, THEY USUALLY MAKE IT SOMETIMES THE CONVERSATION THEIR LEASE TO COVER AT LEAST THE STAFF THAT ON OTHER BUILDINGS, AND IT'S IN OUR CONSIDERATION FOR THIS AS WELL.

>> COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ CEJA, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OR COMMENTS?

>> NO, I THINK THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU.

ACTUALLY, WELL, MAYBE THIS -- IT COULD BE PART OF DELIBERATION.

THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

OKAY.

SO AT THIS TIME, NOW IS THE TIME FOR PUBLIC TESTIMONY.

DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS PROJECT?

>> NO PUBLIC COMMENTS WERE RECEIVED.

>> OKAY.

DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS?

>> I DO NOT.

TORY STEPHEN, NO.

>> I DON'T, EITHER.

WARREN OWENS.

>> SO THERE'S NO FURTHER TESTIMONY.

THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.

OKAY.

SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND DELIBERATE.

COMMISSIONERS, WHO WANTS TO GO FIRST? LET'S GO AHEAD AND START WITH COMMISSIONER FRANZ.

>> ARE YOU PICKING ON ME TODAY OR WHAT? FIRST OF ALL, I AM GLAD TO SEE DEVELOPMENT.

THOSE LOTS HAVE BEEN EMPTY FOR A LONG TIME AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD ADDITION TO OUR COMMUNITY.

MY CONCERN REVOLVES AROUND THE ITEMS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, THE ARCHITECTURE ON THE NORTH ELEVATION I AGREE NEEDS SOME ITEMS. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY ARE OR DECIDE THAT TODAY AND MAKE

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THEM PART OF THE CONDITIONS.

I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE COLOR, EVEN THOUGH THEY DID AGREE THAT THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO WORK WITH THE COLOR SCHEME TO MAKE IT MORE COMPATIBLE WITH THE BEHAVIORAL HOSPITAL.

I DID AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER CEJA ON RELOCATING THOSE UTILITY DOORS TO MAKE THAT, THE EAST-FACING SIDE A LITTLE MORE ATTRACTIVE VERSUS JUST KIND OF A BACK OF HOUSE KIND OF LOOK.

SO I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT THE REST OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE TO SAY BEFORE WE CAN DECIDE WHAT OUR NEXT STEP IS.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER FRANZ.

COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ CEJA.

>> THANK YOU.

I JUST WANT TO ECHO THE COMMENTS FROM THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER FRANZ AND COMMISSIONER CEJA ABOUT THAT EAST ELEVATION, AND I THINK I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO START CONSIDERING ASKING MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT POTENTIALLY ABOUT THE SHADED AREAS AS WE'RE LOOKING INTO THESE DEVELOPMENTS.

IT JUST SEEMS LIKE SUCH A WASTED OPPORTUNITY, ESPECIALLY IF IT COULD BE USED FOR THE SOLAR PANELS THAT WERE BEING SUGGESTED EARLIER.

I FEEL THAT THAT SHOULD BE MAYBE AT THE FOREFRONT OF THE CONVERSATIONS.

I DO WANT TO SAY TO THE APPLICANT THAT I, TOO, AM VERY GLAD TO SEE THE DEVELOPMENT AND THESE SERVICES COMING INTO THE COMMUNITY, AND SO I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS PROJECT MOVING ALONG, BUT I DO THINK THAT THERE ARE THESE OTHER SORT OF THINGS THAT WE NEED T ESPECIALLY AS WE'RE MOVING.

IT'S JUST GETTING A LITTLE HOTTER.

THE SUMMERS SEEM TO BE A LITTLE LONGER AND A LITTLE HOTTER.

JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER, PARTICULARLY TO THE INTEREST OF THOSE THAT ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING INTO LEASING THESE OFFICES.

I THINK IT WOULD BE OF GREAT BENEFIT, NOT ONLY TO THE COMMUNITY ACCESSING IT BUT ALSO THOSE FOLKS THAT WOULD BE INTERESTED IN UTILIZING YOUR SPACE.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.

COMMISSIONER CEJA.

>> THANK YOU.

LIKE MY OTHER COMMISSIONERS, I'M PRETTY EXCITED TO HAVE THIS DEVELOPMENT COME IN.

I THINK IT'S NEEDED IN THE COMMUNITY.

I'D LIKE TO BUILD OUT MORE OF THE MEDICAL AREA THAT WE HAVE AROUND DR. CARREON, SO I THINK THIS IS A GREAT LAND USE.

I THINK THE QUESTIONS REALLY ARE NOW FOCUSED AROUND DESIGN.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DO SEE THAT NORTH ELEVATION.

THERE SEEMS TO BE -- I DO HAVE A CONCERN WITH HOW THAT MIGHT LOOK, AND GIVEN THE ELEVATION THAT WE WERE PRESENTED WITH TODAY, I DON'T THINK WE WERE GIVEN THE FULL PICTURE OF WHAT THAT ELEVATION IS ACTUALLY GOING TO LOOK LIKE, SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND.

SO I THINK THAT SECOND STORY EVEN ON THE NORTH SIDE IS STILL GOING TO BE VISIBLE FOR MANY OF THE SURROUNDING AREAS, SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE ACTUALLY SEE WHAT THAT ELEVATION IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

AND THEN I'LL REITERATE SOME OF ELEVATIONS TO SEE WHAT ENHANCEMENTS CAN BE DONE TO BETTER PRESENT THE BUILDING ON THE, INCLUDING UTILITY DOORS AND THE ENHANCEMENT OF THE ENTRYWAY THAT'S THERE TOO.

I THINK IT COULD BE IMPORTANT, GIVEN THAT THIS IS A TILT-UP BUILDING, TYPICALLY THEY HAVE THINNER BUILDING FACADES, THAT MAYBE WE CAN GET SOME PERSPECTIVE RENDERINGS TO SEE HOW THOSE PARAPETS MY RETURN TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE COMPLETE FORMS ON THE BUILDING ITSELF.

AND THEN EXPLORATION OF DIFFERENT COLOR SCHEMES I THINK IS WARRANTED AS WELL.

AND, OF COURSE, EXPLORING THAT SHADE PARKING, I THINK THAT COULD BE AN IMPORTANT ONE.

NOT ONLY IS IT SO HOT HERE IN THE SUMMER, AND AS OUR OTHER COMMISSIONER HAD MENTIONED WE HAVE EMPLOYEES PARKING OUT THERE FOR EIGHT, NINE HOURS A DAY, I THINK IN A PROFESSIONAL KIND OF SETTING YOU PROBABLY WANT OR YOUR EMPLOYEES, WHETHER THEY'RE TECHS, DOCTORS, WHOMEVER, PROBABLY WANT TO HAVE THAT COVERED PARKING, SO I THINK THOSE ARE IMPORTANT THINGS TO CONTINUE TO EXPLORE, BUT THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS FOR NOW.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CEJA.

VICE CHAIR YSIANO.

>> YEAH, I'M NOT REALLY ANYTHING TO WHAT COMMISSIONER CEJA, FRANZ AND RODRIGUEZ CEJA HAD TO SAY.

I WOULD DEFINITELY SHARE THE CONCERN ON THE NORTH AND THE EAST ELEVATIONS, BEING THAT THOSE ARE THE ONES FACING TRAFFIC AND THE STREETS, AND I THINK COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ CEJA BRINGS UP A GREAT POINT ABOUT THE COVERED PARKING.

I THE BUILDING OVERALL BE MORE ENERGY EFFICIENT IF POSSIBLE TO DO SOLAR FOR SURE, BUT IF NOT AT LATEST THE COVERED PARKING I'M SURE WOULD BE A GREAT ADDITION TO THE PROJECT.

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>> THANK YOU.

AS FAR AS MY FEEDBACK, AGAIN, I AGREE WITH ALL MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.

PARKING IS AGAIN -- I'M THINKING ABOUT A LOT OF THE SENIORS THAT HAVE TO PARK OR LEAVE THEIR CAR OUT, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S A DIALYSIS CENTER OR THEY'RE GOING TO SEE A DOCTOR OR IF IT'S A MATERNITY WARD -- I MEAN A MATERNITY DOCTOR, PEDIATRICIAN.

SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT SHADE FOR SOME OF OUR FAMILIES AND OUR SENIORS.

BUT PRETTY MUCH AGREE WITH MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.

SO AT THIS POINT DO WE HAVE ANY DECISION TO APPROVE OR CHANGES OR ADDITIONS?

>> GIVEN THE COMMENTS, AND I THINK THAT NORTH ELEVATION IS SO IMPORTANT FOR US TO SEE, I'LL TAKE A STAB AT RECOMMENDING THAT WE CONTINUE THIS ITEM.

I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THE APPLICANT MAY NEED, BUT MAYBE THE SECOND MEETING IN FEBRUARY IS A GOOD ONE.

THAT GIVES HIM ENOUGH TIME.

MAYBE WE CAN GET SOME PERSPECTIVE RENDERINGS TO SHOW THE PARAPET DEPTH.

WE CAN GET NEW ELEVATIONS TO SHOW THE NORTH ELEVATION AND WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE.

AND THEN ALSO SOME OF THE COMMENTS WE MADE ON THE EAST ELEVATION FOR CHANGES IN DESIGN THERE.

AND THEN I'D LIKE TO HEAR OR POSSIBLY SEE MAYBE SOME VARIATIONS IN COLOR SCHEME FOR AN EXPLORATION OF THAT, INCLUDING COVERED PARKING.

>> I AGREE.

I WOULD SECOND THAT MOTION.

>> CHAIR, IF I MAY INTERJECT QUICKLY, IF THAT MOTION WOULD PROCEED, I MIGHT RECOMMEND REOPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN SEEKING THE MOTION TO CONTINUE TO THE DATE CERTAIN OF WAITS THE SECOND MEETING IN FEBRUARY, WHICH I UNDERSTAND WOULD BE -- LET ME CHECK MY CALENDAR QUICK -- THE 24TH OR IF YOU WERE NOT TO SELECT A DATE AND CONTINUE TO A DATE CERTAIN, THERE WOULDN'T BE A NEED TO OPEN THE HEARING AT THIS POINT.

>> SHOULD WE GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE TO A DATE UNCERTAIN? WOULD THAT GIVE THE APPLICANT ENOUGH TIME?

>> CAN WE HEAR FROM STAFF ABOUT THAT.

>> I WOULD, MADAME CHAIRPERSON, I WOULD RECOMMEND TO CONTINUE TO A DATE CERTAIN.

NIKKI, MS. GOMEZ, DO YOU THINK FEBRUARY 24TH WOULD BE SUFFICIENT TIME FOR YOU AND THE APPLICANT TO WORK ON THESE REVISIONS?

>> THAT WOULD BE SUFFICIENT TIME.

CAN I HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT IF THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO PRODUCE THE ITEMS REQUESTED?

>> SO THEN WE NEED TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> OKAY.

>> CORRECT.

>> WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> I BELIEVE THAT THAT IS A PLAUSIBLE DATE, THE 24TH OF FEBRUARY, TO HAVE THOSE CONCERNS ADDRESSED.

I WOULD LIKE TO GET FROM NIKKI THE COLORS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED ON THE BEHAVIORAL FACILITY.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> MADAME CHAIRPERSON, MAY I SAY SOMETHING SHORTLY?

>> YES.

>> I JUST WANT THE COMMISSION TO NOTE THAT THERE ARE SOME ELEMENTS BETWEEN THIS BUILDING AND THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH HOSPITAL THAT THEY ARE SIMILAR.

THEY ARE NOT EXACT, BUT THE AWNINGS, THE FLAT ROOFS, THE VARIATION ON THE ELEVATION.

BUT PLEASE NOTE THAT IF THIS BUILDING WILL HAVE THE SAME EXACT ARCHITECTURE AND THE SAME EXACT COLOR, IT WILL BE CONFUSING, SO YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER A HARMONY BUT NOT EXACT.

EVEN IF THEY ARE USING THE -- THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH HOSPITAL IS USING YELLOW COLORS SO USING THE SAME YELLOW MAY CONFUSE PEOPLE BECAUSE THESE ARE TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FACILITIES.

I JUST WANT THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO NOTE THAT AND WHAT STAFF WILL WORK WITH THE APPLICANT ON BRINGING BACK SOME VARIATION.

>> THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, LEILA.

SO AT THIS TIME WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

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AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND -- >> I'M SORRY.

IF I CAN INTERRUPT, SORRY, CHAIR.

IF I CAN INTERRUPT QUICKLY.

I DON'T BELIEVE YOU NEED TO REOPEN THE -- OR CLOSE THE HEARING AT THIS POINT.

I THINK YOU CAN -- YOU'D BE ABLE TO LEAVE IT OPEN AND THEN ENTERTAIN A MOTION SIMILAR TO THAT THAT COMMISSIONER CEJA NOTED BEFORE, CONTINUING TO THE DATE CERTAIN OF FEBRUARY 24T DIRECTION FOR THE APPLICANT AND STAFF TO WORK ON THE SPECIFIC ISSUES REGARDING THE CERTAIN ELEVATION, SHADING, COLORING.

>> OKAY.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER CEJA, DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE ANOTHER -- >> DO I HAVE TO REPEAT IT ALL OR CAN I AMEND MY MOTION TO A DATE CERTAIN OF FEBRUARY 24TH?

>> THAT WORKS.

JUST TO CLARIFY, THEN YOU ALSO HAD SOME DIRECTION TO ENTERTAIN SOME WORK ON THE NORTH AND EAST ELEVATIONS, SHADING, COLORATION, AND I BELIEVE THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT THE PARAPETS AS WELL.

>> YEAH, I WAS LOOKING FOR PERSPECTIVES OF THE BUILDING SO THAT WE CAN SEE SOME OF THE PARAPET DEPTH.

I GUESS THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION.

>> I'LL SECOND HIS MOTION.

>> GO AHEAD AND GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ.

>> YES.

>> VICE CHAIRPERSON YSIANO.

I'M SORRY.

CHAIRPERSON YSIANO?

>> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER CEJA.

>> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ CEJA.

>> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER FRANZ.

>> YES.

>> MOTION CARRIES 5-0.

>> THANK YOU.

NEXT ITEM IS THE, WE HAVE A DESIGN REVIEW, AND I JUST LOST MY -- HERE WE GO.

STUDY SESSION ITEM 10.1, INDIO PUBLIC SAFETY CAMPUS PROJECT CONSULTATION.

>> MADAME CHAIRPERSON.

MADAME CHAIRPERSON, I THINK YOU 9.2 -- 9.4.

I'M SORRY.

THE SUNBURST RV STORAGE.

>> I APOLOGIZE.

[9.4 Sunburst RV Storage – Design Review 20-01-480 and Tentative Parcel Map No. 38014 (TPM 20-11-407)]

OKAY.

SO AT THIS POINT 9.4, SUNBURST RV STORAGE, DESIGN REVIEW 20-01-480 AND TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP NUMBER 38014.

AND NIKKI.

YOU'RE UP.

>> GOOD EVENING, MADAME CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

NIKKI GOMEZ, ASSISTANT PLANNER.

BEFORE YOU IS THE SUNBURST RV STORAGE.

THIS IS A DESIGN REVIEW 20-01-480 AS WELL AS TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 20-11-407.

SO THIS PROJECT IS LOCATED AT SUNBURST STREET AND OLEANDER AVENUE JUST OFF OF MONROE STREET.

IT IS ON A 1.72-ACRE LOT.

IT IS ZONED MANUFACTURING AND GENERAL PLAN DESIGNATION OF WORKPLACE EMPLOYMENT DISTRICT.

SO THIS IS THE SITE PLAN.

SO THE SITE PLAN CONSISTS OF THE ENTRYWAY ACCESS POINT EGRESS AND INGRESS TO THE PROJECT ON SUNBURST STREET.

THIS IS A CORNER LOT, AND SO RETENTION BASIN RUNS AND WRAPS AROUND THE NORTH AND THE NORTHEAST PORTION OF THE PROJECT SITE AS WELL AS THE SOUTH PORTION.

AND THE PROJECT CONSISTS OF TWO ONE-STORY SEPARATE BUILDINGS, AND IT'S THE NORTH AND SOUTH BUILDING.

THE NORTH BUILDING IS DIVIDED INTO NINE RV STORAGE UNITS SIMILARLY TO THE SOUTH BUILDING WHICH IS ALSO NINE RV STORAGE UNITS, TOTALING 18.

SEPARATION BETWEEN THESE STORAGE GIVE AMPLE AMOUNT OF PARKING AS WELL AS PARKING OF THESE LARGE VEHICLES, WHICH IS INTENDED FOR.

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THERE'S ONE ADA PARKING SPACE.

IT HAS A BATHROOM RIGHT ON THAT SECTION OF UNIT 18 WHICH IS THE SOUTHWEST CORNER.

THE FLOOR PLAN.

SO IT'S STRAIGHTFORWARD.

IT'S A RV STORAGE FACILITY.

THE NORTH BUILDING, IT HAS A SLIGHTLY SMALLER SQUARE FOOTAGE.

EACH OF THOSE UNITS ARE 1,400 SQUARE FEET.

THE SOUTH BUILDING, WHICH IS ALSO EIGHT UNITS, THERE IS 1,960 SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS LARGER UNITS FOR STORAGE WITH AN EXCEPTION OF UNIT 18 AS IT TAKES A PORTION OF THAT RESTROOM ON THE SOUTH PORTION OF THAT BUILDING.

SO THE FACILITY IS -- THE ENTRANCE FOR STORAGE SIMPLY, AND IT IS INCORPORATED WITH A BLOCK WALL, EIGHT FOOT BLOCK WALL TO SECURE THE FACILITY.

THE SUNBURST RV ELEVATION IS AT THE VERY TOP PORTION WITH LANDSCAPING AND THE GATE, LIKE I SAID, TO SECURE THE FACILITY.

SIMILARLY, OLEANDER AND -- OLEANDER STREET AND THEN THE BACK PORTION WHICH IS THE VACANT LOT BEHIND IT AT THE VERY LOWER PORTION OF THE PAGE HERE.

AND THOSE ARE THE BUILDING FACADE IS MADE OUT OF UNSIMULATED STUCCO PANELS TO ENSURE IT IS SIMILAR ALONG ALL THE FACADES OF THE BUILDING SINCE IT'S JUST A STORAGE FACILITY.

THIS IS THE INTERIOR PORTION OF THE BUILDINGS.

YOU'RE STANDING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SITE LOOKING INTO THIS BUILDING, AND THESE HAVE LARGE GARAGE DOORS, AND SO THAT EAC THE LARGE UNITS ARE RV RECREATIONAL VEHICLES COULD BE PUT IN HERE, WHICH IS 22 FEET HIGH GARAGE DOORS WITH EACH STORAGE UNITS.

THE NORTH BUILDING WEST ELEVATION IS THE ELECTRICAL PANEL, AND THAT WILL BE HIDDEN BECAUSE THE WHOLE FACILITY'S SCREENED BY A BLOCK WALL, AN EIGHT FOOT BLOCK WALL TO ENSURE THAT ALL THE OTHER STORAGE OR PARKING -- WHEN YOU'RE PARKING YOUR CAR, IT IS NOT VISIBLE FROM THE STREET.

THIS ENTITLEMENT IS ALSO ACCOMPANIED BY A TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP.

THIS TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP NUMBER 38014 IS A PARCEL MAP NOR CONDO PURPOSES, AND THAT WILL ALLOW THE OWNERS TO SEPARATE THE AIR SPACES FOR THESE 18 UNITS, AND EACH OF THESE UNITS COULD HAVE -- COULD BE SOLD INDIVIDUALLY FOR INDIVIDUAL OWNERSHIP.

THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, THE PERIMETER OF THE WHOLE PROJECT SITE WILL BE LANDSCAPED, AND THAT IS BORDERING BEYOND THE RETENTION BASIN TO THE SOUTH.

BORDERING.

AND IT CONSISTS DATE PALM, MESQUITE AND MORNING STAR, AS WELL AS PALMS AND SHRUBBERY ALONG THE PERIMETER OF THE PROJECT SITE.

THE RETENTION BASIN IS TO THE SOUTH IS WITHIN THE BLOCK WALLS OF THE PROJECT SITE AS WELL AS THE RETENTION BASIN TO THE NORTH AND THE NORTHEAST.

AND SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 1976, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF INDIO TO KENNEL APPROVE DESIGN REVIEW 20-10-480 FOR THE ARCHITECTURE, SITE PLAN, PARKING, CIRCULATIO LANDSCAPING FOR THE RV STORAGE PROJECT FOR A TOTAL OF 30,240 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING STORAGE FACILITY DIVIDING INTO 18 COMMERCIAL RV STORAGE UNITS, SUBJECT TO THE FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL HEREIN, AND ALSO RESOLUTION 1977 FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO APPROVE, CONDITIONAL'S PROVE TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP NUR 3101TMZ-11-407 TO ALLOW A

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SUB DIVISION OF A 30,240 SQUARE FOOT RV STORAGE FACILITY ON A 1.72 ACRES, BOTH EXEMPT BY CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT SECTION 15332, CLASS 32, INFILL DEVELOPMENT.

I AM HERE FOR ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS, AND THE APPLICANT AS WELL AS THE OWNER IS HERE TO ALSO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.

>> THANK YOU, NIKKI.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION TO NIKKI AND STAFF?

>> I HAVE ONE.

NIKKI, ON THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, THERE ARE SOME VERY PRETTY EIGHT FOOT BLOCK WALLS THAT CAN BE USED FOR ARTISTIC EXPRESSION.

IS ANY OF THE PLANTS -- ARE THEY LOOKING TO BE LIKE VINES THAT ARE GOING TO BREAK UP THE WALL OR IS THERE ANYTHING BEING DONE TO ENSURE THAT THOSE WALLS DO NOT BECOME A CANVAS?

>> UNFORTUNATELY THERE IS NO VINING WALLS BEING PROPOSED, BUT CERTAINLY WE COULD ADD THOSE.

IT IS PRIMARILY JUST SHRUBBERY AND TREES THAT WILL GO IN THE PERIMETER.

AND ESPECIALLY JUST SHRUBBERY, JUST DIRECTLY NEXT TO THOSE WALLS.

WE CAN CERTAINLY ENTERTAIN, UPON THEM INSTALLING THESE SHRUBBERY, THAT THEY ARE THE HEIGHT WHERE THEY COULD ALREADY BE HALFWAY THROUGH THE EIGHT FOOT WALL SO THERE IS A LIMITED AMOUNT OF SPACE FOR ANYBODY TO CANVAS.

BUT CERTAINLY WE COULD ADD THAT IF THOSE SHRUBBERY WERE MATURE ENOUGH TO BE THAT TALL.

>> THANK YOU.

>> MADAME CHAIRPERSON, MAY I ADD ONE MORE ITEM.

WE ALSO CAN CONDITION THE PROJECT TO PUT ANTI-GRAFFITI COAT ON THOSE WALLS, SO THAT HELPS REMOVE ANY GRAFFITI EASILY.

>> THANK YOU, LEILA.

>> I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> YES.

NIKKI, IS THIS SOMETHING WE SAW AT LIKE A PRE-APPLICATION PHASE?

>> THAT IS CORRECT.

SO THIS WENT BEFORE YOU, MONO ARMY STORAGE.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER THAT.

MONROE ARMY STORAGE.

AND IT HAD LIKE A CERTAIN ARCHITECTURAL, LIKE AN OFFICE SPACE AT THE FRONT AND THEN COVERED.

AND SO WHEN -- AFTER THE COMMENTS I HAD RECEIVED FROM YOU ON THE PROJECT PLAN, THE APPLICANT HAD DRAWN IT UP, AND UNFORTUNATELY FINANCIAL HURLS HAD LIMITED THEM TO STREAMLINE AND REDESIGN TO WHAT YOU SEE NOW.

AND I WOULD INVITE THE APPLICANT TO MAYBE, WHEN IT'S TIME TO EXPAND ON THAT.

BUT YES, YOU ARE CORRECT.

>> IT SEEMED FAMILIAR, ALTHOUGH IT WAS DIFFERENT, THAT WE LOOKED AT THIS SITE BEFORE.

IN THIS ZONING DISTRICT, OWNERS GET TO ENJOY THE EIGHT FOOT PROPERTY LINE WALL.

IS THERE ALSO A ZERO LOT LINE SETBACK?

>> THAT IS CORRECT.

> LOT LINE? OR WAS THIS THE ONLY PROPOSAL THAT WAS PRESENTED?

>> SO I GUESS MAYBE ALSO IN A WAY WE'RE TAKING THOSE RETENTION BASIN AND MAYBE RELOCATING THAT, THEM PUSHING IT TO THE LIMIT OF THE SETBACKS?

>> IT'S PROBABLY MORE FOR DELIBERATION, BUT I'M JUST SEEING THIS WALL CONDITION WHERE YOU HAVE A ONE-STORY BUILDING WITH AN EIGHT FOOT BLOCK WALL AROUND THE PERIMETER AND JUST NO MAN'S AREA, HOW THAT MIGHT BE MAINTAINED.

WE MIGHT BE BETTER SERVED, AND POSSIBLY SAVE COSTS RATHER THAN BUILDING A WALL, ACTUALLY LOCATE THE BUILDING ON THE ZERO LOT LINE, HAVE THE BUILDING BE THE PERIMETER WALL, SECURITY WALL.

BUT THAT'S PROBABLY BETTER FOR DELIBERATION.

>> OKAY.

>> THANK YOU.

I THINK THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CEJA.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY.

WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THIS UP FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING, CORRECT?

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AND IF THE APPLICANT IS AVAILABLE, IF HE CAN PLEASE -- IF YOU CAN PLEASE COME UP TO THE ZOOM -- YOU CAN'T COME UP TO THE MIC, BUT, YES.

>> THIS IS GUY EVANS.

CAN YOU HEAR ME?

>> YES.

>> I'M TALKING ON MY PHONE BECAUSE MY COMPUTER IS OUTDATED.

I CAN RESPOND TO YOUR QUESTIONS.

IN REGARDS TO THE SHRUBBERY UP AGAINST THE BUILDING, I WOULD RATHER DO ANTI-GRAFFITI PAINT INSTEAD OF SHRUBBERY.

I MY EXPERIENCE WITH PUTTING SH RUNS AGAINST THE BUILDING, THEY BECOME WEEDED AND DIRTY AND DON'T LOOK VERY GOOD.

AND THEN IN REGARDS TO THE DESIGN CHANGE, THE PROJECT AS WE ORIGINALLY HAD IT WAS COST PROHIBITIVE.

AND PART OF THAT BEING COST PROHIBITIVE IS THAT -- AND THIS ROLLS INTO THE ZERO LOT LINE QUESTION -- IS THAT WHEN YOU MOVE THESE BUILDINGS TO THE LOT LINES, YOU HAVE TO USE A TWO-HOUR FIREWALL, AND THAT REALLY DRIVES UP THE COST OF THE BUILDING.

THE WAY WE DESIGNED IT NOW, OUR COVERAGE ISN'T AS GOOD, BUT THE TRAFFIC FLOW AND USABILITY IS MUCH BETTER, PLUS IT'S MORE COST EFFECTIVE.

AND ANOTHER THING I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT, TOO, IS THAT IN REGARDS TO THE EIGHT FOOT HIGH WALLS, THE NORTH WALL IS ALREADY EXISTING.

AND THE EIGHT FOOT HIGH WALL GOES DOWN THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, AND THEN JUST RETURNS BACK INTO THE BUILDING ON THE SOUTH SIDE, AND THEN YOU SEE THE SHORT PIECE ON THE WEST SIDE WHERE THE ENTRYWAY IS.

AND THE REASON WOULDN'T TOON EIGHT FOOT HIGH WALL INSTEAD OF A SIX FOOT HIGH WALL IS FOR SECURITY.

AND THAT'S AT THE EXTENT OF THE MY COMMENTS.

>> THANK YOU.

DOES THE COMMISSION HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?

>> I THINK THAT CLARIFIED IT FOR ME.

YOU KNOW, THINKING ABOUT THAT KIND OF DEAD SPACE BEHIND THE WALL AND BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS, PREFERENTIAL OPTION.

BUT LOOKING HERE AT OLEANDER, YOU DO SEE THAT EIGHT FOOT BLOCK WALL RUNNING ALONG THE ENTIRE STREETSCAPE.

IT COULD MAKE SENSE AND SAVE A QUITE A BIT OF MONEY OF CONSTRUCTING AN EIGHT FOOT BLOCK WALL TO JUST RETURN IT TO THE BUILDING FACE AND THEN JUST CAPTURE ALL THAT SPACE FOR LANDSCAPING.

>> AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.

IF YOU LOOK ON THE -- IF YOU GO BACK TO THE ELEVATIONS ON THE OLEANDER SIDE -- ONE MORE -- ON THE EAST END, ON THE OLEANDER STREETSCAPE, THAT BLOCK WALL JUST RETURNS BACK INTO THE BUILDING.

>> I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT THIS ELEVATION THOSE SHOWS THOUGH.

IT SHOWS THE WALL, THE ENTIRE LENGTH.

>> WHAT THAT WALL IS, THAT'S ACTUALLY BLOCK UP AGAINST THE BUILDING ITSELF.

SO THESE PANELS, IT'S EIGHT FEET OF BLOCK, AND THEN THE PANELS START ABOVE THAT.

>> SO THE PANELS GET ATTACHED TO THE BLOCK?

>> YEAH, THIS IS BENJAMIN.

I'D BE ENGINEER ON THE PROJECT.

I CAN EXPLAIN THIS A LITTLE BETTER.

ERIC, WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS THERE IS THE BUILDING IS PUSHED SOUTH I HAD RADIO UP AGAINST THAT BLOCK WALL.

AND THE BLOCK WALL IS THE FIRST EIGHT FEET OF THE BUILDING.

BASICALLY THAT PORTION.

AND THEN WE USE A FLASHING DETAIL, AND THEN WE PUT THE STUCCO SIMULATED PANELS ABOVE IT.

SO, YEAH, WE HAVE PUSHED IT OUT LOCATION, IT'S ECONOMICAL TO DO IT BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE THE REQUIREMENT TO BE SET BACK 20-FOOT TO ANOTHER STRUCTURE BECAUSE THERE CAN BE NO OTHER STRUCTURE ON THAT SOUTH RIGHT-OF-WAY, SO WE DON'T HAVE THE COST PROHIBITIVE TEMPERATURES GOING TO A FOUR-HOUR FIREWALL.

IT MAY NOT BE ILLUSTRATED REAL WELL IN THE RENDERINGS, BUT THAT IS WHAT IT'S DOING.

IT IS PUSHED TIGHT UP AGAINST THE WALL.

>> THANKS AGAIN.

THAT CLARIFIED.

ARCHITECTURALLY, THERE'S NOTHING TO THESE BUILDINGS.

HAD YOU LOOKED AT ANY VERTICAL, HORIZONTAL UNDULATION, MOVEMENT IN THE

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BUILDING AT ALL? WINDOWS? ANYTHING?

>> WELL, THE ONLY -- >> GO AHEAD, GUY.

>> I KNEW THIS AS THE ONLY OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT WOULD BE ON THE OLEANDER SIDE.

ON THE EAST SIDE IT'S -- ON THE NORTH SIDE THERE'S ALREADY A BUILDING THERE AND IT BACKS UP TO THAT BUILDING, SO THERE'S NO REASON TO DO ANY ARCHITECTURE ON THAT, AND THEN THE SAME THING ON THE EAST SIDE.

AND OUR VIEW WAS WITH USING A SPLIT FACE VENEER BLOCK ON THE BUILDING AND THEN ALONG WITH THE LANDSCAPING OF THE USE OF THE PALM TREES, THAT'S OUR ARCHITECTURAL DETAILING ON THE BUILDING.

>> OKAY.

I KNOW WHEN WE AT LEAST HAD SEEN A PRE-APP THERE WAS SOME CONVERSATION BUT EAST ELEVATION.

NOT KNOWING WHAT THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST MIGHT BE AND LOOKING AT SEVERAL YEARS, DECADES, HAVING SOME DESIGN ELEMENT ALONG THERE, AND I WOULD SAY THE SAME FOR OLEANDER AND SUNBURST AS WELL.

WE HAD TALKED ABOUT MAYBE SOME KIND OF SPLIT FACE BLOCK DESIGN LIKE YOU MIGHT SEE, LET'S SAY, ALONG FRED RYAN DRIVE.

YOU HAVE A MIX OF SPLIT FACE BLOCK, MAYBE YOU HAVE SOME OTHER STONE MATERIAL ATTACHED TO IT, BUT THERE'S REALLY NOTHING ON THESE WALLS FOR ARCHITECTURE.

I KNOW THAT'S JUST A COMMENT, BUT -- >> I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT BRIEFLY.

SO WE ARE NOT DOING METAL.

WOULDN'T TO THE METAL BUILDING SUPPLIER AND WERE ABLE TO CLAD IT WITH THE STUCCO SIMULATED PANELS, SO THAT'S A BIT OF AN UPGRADE.

WE COULD CERTAINLY PUT SOME STRIPING OR SOME STUFF ON THIS, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE COST PROHIBITIVE TO TRY AND FACADE THIS WITH BLOCK OR ANYTHING ELSE.

SO I'LL JUST PUT OUT THERE THAT IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME COLOR STRIPES OR SOMETHING OR LIKE US TO MAYBE INCORPORATE A WELL-DESIGNED SIGN PROGRAM, WE CAN DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BUT WE ARE GOING TO BE LIMITED IN WHAT WE CAN DO BECAUSE YOU OF THE MATERIALS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO CLAD THE BUILDING WITH THIS BUILDING SYSTEM.

>> OKAY.

THANK YOU.

>> ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? FOR THE APPLICANT?

>> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT AND MAYBE THE ARCHITECT OR I DON'T KNOW.

FIRST OF ALL, MR. EVANS, THANK DO THE ANTI-GRAFFITI COAT.

THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO THE ESTHETICS OF OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY.

BUT I STILL THINK, ESPECIALLY ON THE WALLS THAT MAYBE I UNDER YOU DON'T WANT TO PUT BOUGAINVILLEA OR SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO GROW RIGHT ON THEM BUT MAYBE THERE TO BE OCOTILLO OR DESERT ITEMS THAT WOULD BE PUT UP AND BROKEN UP SO THAT THE WALL DOESN'T SEEM LIKE SUCH A WALL AND MAYBE ADD THAT.

I'M HOPING THAT WOULD NOT BE TOO COST PROHIBITIVE.

IT WOULD STILL BREAK UP THE WALL A LITTLE BIT.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR HAVE EVEN LOOKED AT SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

>> WELL, I DO.

AND I THINK WITH THE PALM TREES, THE VERTICAL PALM TREES, AND YOU COME BACK AND YOU'VE GOT THE HORIZONTAL BLOCK, THAT'S GOING TO BE A DECORATIVE BLOCK, TOO, THAT'S NOT JUST PRECISION MASONRY.

I FORGET WHAT KINDS OF TREES.

THE ITEMS, THE TREES ARE IN RED, I THINK THAT GIVES PRETTY GOOD DETAILING WITH SOME INTEREST INSTEAD OF JUST A HEDGE.

I COULD CHANGE OUT THE PLANTS IN BETWEEN THE PALM TREES AND WE COULD DO FENCE POST CONTACT TUESDAYS OR OCOTILLOS, IF YOU LIKE.

THE ONLY PROBLEM IS OCOTILLOS IS THEY LOOK DEAD ABOUT SIX MONTHS OUT OF OF THE YEAR UNTIL THEY TURN GREEN.

AND I LOVE OCOTILLOS, BY THE WAY.

I THINK THAT'S GREAT.

BUT I DON'T THINK YOU'RE PUTTING ANYTHING MORE THAN WE HAVE.

>> I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SEE THEM.

T ZOOM IN ON THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, BUT SEE AN ELEVATION THERE.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE THE LITTLE RED -- THERE.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE THEM THERE.

WELL, IT'S PROBABLY BETTER TO HEAR IT.

I GUESS IF YOU LOOKED AT THAT, THAT EXISTING STREET.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE THAT SPLASH OF RED THERE, THAT IS A BOUGAINVILLEA.

SO WE HAVE GOT A BOUGAINVILLEA PLANTED EVERY 20, 30 FEET DOWN THAT WALL TO BREAK IT UP.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S NOT SHOWING UP REAL WELL ON THE ELEVATION OR IF YOU WERE

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LOOKING FOR SOMETHING MORE.

BUT WE DO HAVE PLANTING TO BREAK THOSE STREETSCAPES UP.

IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE SPECIES, THAT WOULD BE EASY TO DO.

>> NO, I DON'T THINK I NEED TO CHANGE THE SPECIES.

IT'S REALLY LARD TO TELL ON HERE.

WE DON'T HAVE AN IMAGE OF THE BLOCK THAT WOULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

WE DON'T HAVE A REALLY GOOD -- IT'S HARD TO TELL THE DISTANCE BETWEEN WHERE ALL THE PLANTING IS GOING TO BE AND THE ACTUAL WALL.

SO I THINK IT'S REALLY HARD TO VISUALIZE WHAT YOU HAVE DESIGNED.

AND MAYBE WHEN IT'S ALL BUILT, IT'S GOING TO LOOK GREAT, BUT I REALLY AM HAVING A HARD TIME VISUALIZING THE THING.

BUT I'LL DEFINITELY SEE WHAT MY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE TO SAY.

THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER FRANZ.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANTS?

>> NOT MUCH, BUT THANK YOU TO MR. EVANS FOR AGREEING TO DO SOMETHING TO HELP WITH THE GRAFFITI ABATEMENT THERE, ESPECIALLY I THINK ON THAT EAST-FACING WALL, ALTHOUGH SOMETHING CAN COME ON THAT LOT ADJACENT IN THE FUTURE, FOR NOW A LOT OF BUILDINGS IN THAT AREA DO HAVE HEAVY GRAFFITI, ESPECIALLY SOME OF THOSE BUILDINGS FACING EAST TOWARDS MONROE.

>> CHRISTIAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS?

>> CHAIR, I MIGHT, IF I MIGHT INTERJECT JUST AS A REMINDER, WE'RE STILL IN THE PUBLIC HEARING IS STILL OPEN, SO ANY KIND OF COMMENT OR DELIBERATION WOULD BE APPROPRIATE ONCE THE HEARING HAS BEEN CLOSED.

NOW WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE TIME FOR QUESTIONS OR IF THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION IS OVER AND THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, TO SEE IF THERE IS ANY PUBLIC TESTIMONY ON THIS HEARING ITEM.

>> YES.

I WAS JUST ASKING KOREAN COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ CEJA IF HE HAD ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT BEFORE I GO TO THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.

SO SEEING THAT THERE IS NONE -- >> NOTHING.

>> -- IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS?

>> NO PUBLIC COMMENTS WERE RECEIVED.

>> THANK YOU.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE APPLICANT BEFORE WE CLOSE THE -- >> I GOT MAYBE ONE OR TWO MORE.

ARE THESE -- IS IT CONDITIONED SPACE? D ROOF-MOUNTED?

>> THEY ARE NOT CONDITIONED.

>> HOW ABOUT SECURITY?

>> WELL, WE'VE GOT SECURITY CAMERAS.

WE'VE GOT SECURITY GATE.

THEN PART OF THE REASON FOR THE EIGHT FOOT HIGH WALLS IS SO THAT YOU CAN'T SCALE THEM.

THAT'S THE EXTENT OF THE SECURITY.

>> YEAH, THERE'S NO OFFICE SPACE THEN, NO ON-SITE SECURITY PERSONNEL?

>> NO.

NO.

>> THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU.

>> SO THERE IS NO FURTHER TESTIMONY.

WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, SO IT'S NOW CLOSED.

AND SO I WILL GO AHEAD AND DELIBERATE.

WHO WANTS TO GO FIRST? DO YOU WANT TO GO FIRST, COMMISSIONER CEJA?

>> YOU KNOW, I THINK A LOT OF MY QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED.

I HAD SOME CONCERN ABOUT THE BLOCK WALL PLACEMENT WITH THE BUILDING SPACE AND WHERE THE RETENTION BASINS WERE LOCATED.

I'M THINKING MAYBE PUSHING THE BUILDING TO THE PROPERTY LINE I WAS BETTER IDEA TO CAPTURE THAT DEAD SPACE, BUT I THINK THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN CONVINCING THAT THIS IS PROBABLY THE BEST SITE LAYOUT FOR THEM.

I THINK WHAT REALLY CONCERNS ME IS THAT THERE'S REALLY NOTHING TO THESE BUILDING.

THEY'RE PRETTY NONDESCRIPT.

THERE'S NO -- THERE'S EVER THERE'S NOTHING IN TERMS OF ARCHITECTURAL QUALITY THAT GETS ME EXCITED ABOUT THIS BUILDING TO BE TOTAL EXCITED ABOUT RV STORAGE, BUT WE'VE BEEN PUSHING APPLICANTS FOR BETTER AND BETTER ARCHITECTURE, AND HERE WE'RE NOT GETTING ANYTHING.

SO I THINK REALLY MY CONCERN REALLY AT THIS POINT IS JUST WITH THE FACADE, PARTICULARLY ALONG OLEANDER, SUNBURST AND WHAT WE SEE ALONG THE EAST ELEVATION OF THE BUILDING.

OTHERS MY COMMENTS.

>> THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ CEJA.

>> YEAH, I THINK, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT COMMISSIONER CEJA WAS RAISING AND JUST ABOUT NOT HAVING ANY REAL DESIGN, IT MAKES ME THINK THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD START CONSIDERING HOW THE ARTS COMMISSION COULD THEN COME IN, YOU KNOW, THE UTILITY MAYBE FOR A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WERE BEING SUGGESTED TO BRING IN SOME SORT OF SPICE TO THE LAYOUT.

MIGHT NOT TRANSLATE FOR THE APPLICANT.

BUT I'M WONDERING IF, KNOWING THAT THERE ARE SOME OF THESE WALLS THAT ARE

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ALREADY BEING UTILIZED BY OUR STREET ARTISTS, MAYBE THERE COULD BE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DONE TO BRING IN SOME OF THAT TALENT THAT WE HAVE AND FORMALIZE IT A LITTLE MORE AND MAYBE GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF COLOR TO THIS.

SO IT'S JUST A COMMENT, I GUESS, FOR ALL OF US TO CONSIDER HOW WE CAN START IMPLEMENTING SOME OF THAT INTO SOME OF THESE PROJECTS THAT WE WON'T BE ABLE TO GET TOO MUCH SPICE OUT OF.

>> THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER FRANZ.

>> YEAH.

I MEAN, I DEFINITELY HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS.

W BRING NEW, EXCITING, VIBRANT BUILDING.

I KNOW THIS IS AN RV STORAGE, SO HOW MUCH EXCITEMENT AND VIBRANCE CAN WE GET IN? I DON'T KNOW.

PROBABLY NOT MUCH.

I DO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER CHRISTIAN THAT MAYBE THESE ARE THE TYPES OF PROJECTS THAT WHEN THEY COME BEFORE US, MAYBE SOMEHOW WE NEED TO REACH OUT TO THE APPLICANT AND THE ART COMMISSION, PUBLIC ART COMMISSION AND SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO.

I MEAN, I REALLY HATE BLOCK WALLS THAT ARE JUST BARE.

THEY JUST REALLY ARE NOT SOMETHING THAT I ENJOY LOOKING AT.

THE APPLICANT DID MENTION MAYBE ADDING SOME COLOR AND STRIPING OR SOME KIND OF A COLOR THEME.

I'M NOT AN ARTIST BY ANY SHAPE OR FORM SO I CAN'T SAY THAT I WOULD KNOW WHAT KIND OF STRIPING MIGHT WORK ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS, BUT IS THAT SOMETHING WE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN MAYBE HAVING THE APPLICANT LOOK INTO, ADDING SOME COLOR OR SOME STRIPES OR SOMETHING, ANYTHING? THAT'S THE ONLY THING I CAN THINK OF.

SO I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE IS THINKING.

>> THANK YOU, GLORIA -- COMMISSIONER FRANZ.

VICE CHAIR YSIANO?

>> NO ADDITIONAL COMMENTS AT THIS TIME.

>> WELL, I REALLY LIKE THE RECOMMENDATION FROM COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ CEJA.

GIVEN THAT THIS IS AN INDUSTRIAL OR A MANUFACTURING ZONE IN OUR CITY, I AM KIND OF SEEN SOMETHING SIMILAR WITH SOME ART IN SOME INDUSTRIAL PARKS LIKE IN PALM SPRINGS OR IN THOUSAND PALMS, MORE IN PALM SPRINGS WHERE THEY INCORPORATE SOME TYPE OF ART, AND THEY ALSO HAVE THEIR ART COMMISSION GET INVOLVED.

SO THOSE ARE MY -- I'D LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT -- I KNOW IT IS AN RV STORAGE FOR HIGH END RVS AND PROBABLY CARS AS WELL, AND IT'S PROBABLY HIDDEN IN MONROE GOING OVER THE NEW PART OF NORTH INDIO.

BUT, YEAH, I AGREE WITH SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT COMMISSIONER FRANZ MADE AS WELL.

SO AT THIS TIME WHAT DOES THE COMMISSION WANT TO MOVE? THIS IS A DESIGN REVIEW.

WHAT IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION? MOTIONS?

>> A QUESTION OF FACT MAYBE.

SO HOW WOULD WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OR COULD WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT A CONVERSATION BE HELD WITH THE ART, THE PUBLIC ART COMMISSION? WHAT CAN WE DO WITH THAT?

>> COMMISSIONER FRANZ, THIS IS DIRECTOR SNYDER.

RIGHT NOW OUR PUBLIC PLACES PROGRAM IS CODIFIED AND IT'S WRITTEN IN A WAY THAT PROVIDES FOR AN APPLICANT TO EITHER PROVIDE PUBLIC ART AS PART OF THEIR PROJECT OR TO PAY TO THE ART IN PUBLIC PLACES FUND, SO IT'S A VOLUNTARY ACTION BY THE APPLICANT, AND IT'S PAID AT TIME OF BUILDING PERMIT.

IT WOULD BE I THINK DIFFICULT, SINCE THERE'S ALREADY A CODIFIED OBLIGATION, I THINK YOU WOULD HAVE DIFFICULT IN CREATING A CONDITION OF APPROVAL THAT WOULD ADD TO THAT.

I THINK -- AT LEAST THAT'S THE WAY THAT THE CODE IS CURRENTLY WRITTEN.

NOW, THE APPLICANT CERTAINLY PUBLIC ART IN RESPONSE TO SOME OF THE CONCERNS RAISED BY THE COMMISSION TO OFF YET SOME OF THE DESIGN CONCERNS YOU'VE EXPRESSED, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THE WAY THE CODE LANGUAGE IS CURRENTLY WRITTEN, IT DOESN'T REALLY SUPPORT A DEVELOPMENT A CONDITION OF APPROVAL TO DIRECT OR REQUIRE THE PUBLIC ART INCORPORATION INTO THE PROJECT, AT LEAST TODAY.

PERHAPS IN THE FUTURE WITH NEW ZONING LANGUAGE THAT WE MIGHT BE LOOKING AT LATER THIS YEAR, THERE MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY AT THAT POINT AND PAST, BUT NOT TODAY.

>> IT COULD BE JUST A RECOMMENDATION THAT THE CONVERSATION MAYBE TAKE PLACE OR THAT THEY -- YOU KNOW, WHEN IT COMES TIME FOR THE FEE, TO LOOK AT MAYBE INSTEAD OF A FEE, THEY ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING TO THE WALL.

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>> MOST CERTAINLY.

THE COMMISSION CAN RECOMMEND THAT, MOST CERTAINLY.

IT'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A RECOMMENDATION AND A CONDITION.

>> CAN THE CONDITION BE THAT THE WALLS COULD LATER BE USED FOR POTENTIALLY A PRO BONO RFP PROCESS THAT THE CITY COULD HAVE? MAYBE THERE ARE LOCAL ARTISTS THAT MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN MOVING THAT WORK ALONG WITHOUT NECESSARILY INVOLVING THE APPLICANT PAYING FOR IT.

I THINK THIS IS MAYBE THAT COULD BE SOMETHING EXCITING FOR THE ART COMMISSIONS TO DO.

CAN IT BE A CONDITION THAT THIS WALL, MAYBE ONE SIDE OF THE BUILDING CAN BE USED FOR A PUBLIC ART PROJECT?

>> I WILL SAY SOMETHING BUT I ATTORNEY, BUT TYPICALLY YOU CANNOT CONDITION AN APPLICANT TO DO SOMETHING WHO A PRO BONO BASIS VOLUNTARILY.

IT'S TYPICALLY EXCEEDS THE AUTHORITY OF THE COMMISSION BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE CODIFIED AUTHORITY TO DO THAT.

SO MY SHORT ANSWER WOULD BE, NO, BUT I WOULD DEFER TO MR. HEINSELMAN.

HE MAY HAVE A BROADER, MORE DETAILED STATEMENT THAN I WOULD.

>> I WOULD GENERAL CONCUR WITH WHAT MR. SNYDER NOTED.

THE OTHER THING IS THE CITY DOES HAVE THIS ART IN PUBLIC PLACES PROGRAM IN THE CODE, AND THAT -- I HAVEN'T THOROUGHLY REVIEWED THAT, BUT I IMAGINE THAT HAS SOME PROCESSES FOR HOW THE FUNDS COLLECTED WOULD BE EXPENDED.

SO THERE WOULD BE THAT, THAT COULD CONSIDER IN ADDITION TO NOT REQUIRING THAT AN APPLICANT NOW AT SOME FUTURE POINT AVAIL THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY TO SOME SORT OF PUBLIC ART.

SO I THINK THE COMMISSION WOULD BE LIMITED TO MAKE THAT REQUIREMENT AT THIS POINT.

>> AND IF I COULD ADD ONE ADDITIONAL COMMENT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COMMISSION, IT IS WITHIN THE COMMISSION'S DISCRETION IF YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT CERTAIN DESIGN ELEMENTS TO EITHER CONTINUE THIS ITEM IF YOU WANT MORE LOOK AT BY THE APPLICANT AND STAFF OF THOSE CONCERNS OR YOU CAN REASONABLY ASK FOR DESIGN FEATURES TO BE ADDED OR MODIFIED IN YOUR CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL AS CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.

SO YOU DO HAVE REFLECT IN ORDER AS A COMMISSION AND DISCRETION AS A COMMISSION TO ESTABLISH DESIGN PARAMETERS, REASONABL DESIGN PARAMETERS.

AGAIN THERE'S ALWAYS THAT LEGAL NEXUS ISSUE, AND ZACH COULD SPEAK TO THAT BETTER THAN I COULD, BUT YOU DO HAVE THAT DISCRETION.

>> THANK YOU, KEVIN.

>> IF I COULD, I REALLY DON'T WANT TO PUT ANYTHING ON THIS BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE EDUCATED ON THE PUBLIC ART FEE.

AN IDEA WHAT THE PUBLIC ART FEE FOR THIS PROJECT WOULD BE? I THINK WE HAVE AN IDEA THAT THIS GENERATES $20,000 IN A FEE THAT CAN BE USED FOR A ROBUST ART PROJECT, WHEN IN REALITY THIS IS A $20,000 COLLECTION THAT MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT TO DO ANYTHING OF SIGNIFICANCE WHEN IT COMES TO PUBLIC ART.

>> KEVIN.

>> I WILL SPEAK JUST BROADLY.

SO THE ART IN PUBLIC PLACES PROGRAM IS CURRENTLY CODIFIED UNDER 159840 OF THE CITY'S CODE.

IT DOES ESTABLISH THE METHOD BY WHICH -- SORRY, I'M GETTING RIGHT TO IT, MY APOLOGIES DEFICIENT WILL BE CALCULATED IT.

STATES THAT ALL INDIVIDUAL -- ALL PUBLIC INDUSTRIAL, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WILL BE ASSESSED AT NOT EQUAL TO 1/2.

EXCUSE ME .

5% OF THE BID EVALUATION DISCUSS OUTSIDE COSTS.

TO COMMISSIONER CEJA'S COMMENT, IT'S GOING TO BE A RELATIVELY SMALL DOLLAR AMOUNT, AND SO IN THOSE INSTANCES WE DO OFTEN SEE AS A MATTER OF PRACTICE THAT INDIVIDUALS WILL PAY INTO THE FUND RATHER THAN GOING THROUGH WHAT WILL LIKELY BE A HIGHER COST FOR PUTTING IN THE ART, SO IT IS TYPICALLY MUCH LARGER, MORE HIGHER VALUE PROJECTS WHERE YOU START TO SEE THAT THERE MAY BE BENEFIT FOR THE OPPORTUNITY FUND.

>> YEAH, I REALLY LIKE THE COMMISSION'S THINKING.

I KNOW WE'VE MADE THOSE COMMENTS IN THE PAST ABOUT INCLUDING PUBLIC ART IN PROJECTS, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND REALLY TO DO SOMETHING OF SIGNIFICANCE, YOU NEED A MUCH HIGHER PROJECT VALUATION TO MAKE A REAL BIG STATEMENT PIECE WHEN IT COMES TO PUBLIC ART.

SOMETHING LIKE THIS, I THINK LIKE THE DIRECTOR ALLUDED TO, LIKELY THEY JUST PAY THE FEE AND MOVE ON.

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>> OKAY.

>> A QUICK QUESTION, IF THAT'S OKAY.

>> YES.

>> ARE WE AT ALL INTERESTED IN THE STRIPING, THE PAINT, THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE BY THE ARCHITECT OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S JUST NOT GOING TO BE ENOUGH TO REALLY

-- >> I WOULD JUST ADD THAT I'M NOT COMPLETELY SOLD THAT IT WILL ACHIEVE WHAT WE'RE DOING, BUT UNTIL FURTHER DISCUSSIONS WITH ZONING, I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY THE BEST THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY DO AT THE MOMENT.

I DON'T KNOW.

I THINK THE LANDSCAPING PLAN, IT HAS -- IT DOES A GOOD ATTEMPT AT TRYING TO DO WHAT BEST IT COULD DO GIVEN THE TYPE OF PROJECT.

SO I'M NOT COMPLETELY OFF-PUT BY THE CURRENT LANDSCAPE PLAN, BUT I THINK IF THE STRIPING IS SOMETHING TO ADD, I WOULD DEFINITELY RECOMMEND IT.

>> SO AM I HEARING YOU WANT TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM?

>> I DON'T THINK SO, BUT -- >> WHAT IS THE RECOMMENDATION?

>> ARE WE DONE WITH THIS MEETING? ARE WE GOOD? OKAY.

I ACTUALLY THINK THE APPLICANT HAS DONE A GOOD JOB WITH THE LIMITED OPTIONS AVAILABLE FOR THIS PROJECT.

IF WE'RE DONE DELIBERATING, I THINK I'M COMFORTABLE ENOUGH TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 1976, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THE CITY OF INDIO KENNEL APPROVING DESIGN REVIEW 20-10-480 FOSTER ARCHITECTURE SITE PLAN PARKING, CIRCULATION AND LANDSCAPING FOR SUNBURST RV STORAGE PROJECT.

CAN I DO THEM TOGETHER, ZACH?

>> YES, YOU'D BE ABLE TO MAKE THE MOTION FOR THEM TOGETHER, AND I RECALL THAT THERE WAS ALSO SOME DELIBERATION EARLIER AND TALK ABOUT THE GRAFFITI ABATEMENT PROGRAM WHICH I BELIEVE WOULD BE A NEW CONDITION HERE, SO THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO MENTION NOW IF THAT'S HOW YOU SEE YOUR MOTION GOING.

>> YES.

ON THE ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION 1976 WE WOULD LIKE TO ADD THE CONDITION THAT THE OUTER WALLS BE PAINTED WITH ANTI-GRAFFITI COAT.

AND THEN I'D ALSO LIKE TO ADD THE ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION 1977, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF INDIO, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP NUMBER 38014 TO ALLOW A SUBDIVISION OF A 30,240 SQUARE FOOT RV STORAGE BUILDING FACILITY.

>> DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

>> I WILL SECOND.

>> ROLL CALL.

>> COMMISSIONER -- I'M SORRY.

CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ.

>> YES.

>> VICE CHAIRPERSON YSIANO.

>> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER CEJA.

>> NO.

>> COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ CEJA.

>> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER FRANZ.

>> YES.

>> MOTION CARRIES 4-1.

>> THANK YOU, MR. EVANS.

SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO STUDY SESSION ITEM 10.1, WHICH IS INDIO PUBLIC

[10.1 Indio Public Safety Campus – Project Consultation]

SAFETY CAMPUS PROJECT CONSULTATION.

I'VE BEEN LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING ABOUT THIS.

NIKKI, YOU'RE UP.

>> AND ONE MORE TIME FOR THE NIGHT, THANK YOU AGAIN, PLANNING COMMISSIONERS.

SO WE HAVE A INDIO PUBLIC SAFETY CAMPUS.

SO THIS IS COMING BEFORE YOU AS A PROJECT CONSULTATION.

SO AS YOU MAY PROBABLY ALREADY KNOW, THIS PROJECT IS LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF JACKSON STREET AND DR. CARREON BOULEVARD.

IT IS A 8.62-ACRE SITE.

AND THIS IS THE VACANT LOT DIRECTLY BEHIND THE EXISTING POLICE DEPARTMENT AND FIRE STATION.

I'LL JUST WALK YOU THROUGH AS IT IS IN TWO PHASES.

SO THIS IS THE SITE PLAN FOR THE FIRST SPACE.

AND THEN I REFER YOU TO THE COLOR COORDINATION HERE ON THE SIDE.

THIS PROJECT CONSISTS OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES BUILDING THAT WILL GO

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DIRECTLY BEHIND THE EXISTING INDIO POLICE DEPARTMENT.

IT IS A TWO-STORY BUILDING OF 22,596 SQUARE FEET.

TO THE SOUTH OF THAT ALSO DIRECTLY BEHIND THE EXISTING POLICE DEPARTMENT BUILDING IS A COMMUNICATION AND DISPATCH CENTER, WHICH IS A ONE-STORY BUILDING, 7,336 SQUARE FEET.

A FIRE STATION IS ALSO PROPOSED WHICH IS GOING TO GO BEHIND THE EXISTING FIRE STATION THAT IS A ONE-STORY BUILDING OF 13,445 SQUARE FEET.

THE NEXT PHASE OF THIS PROJECT WILL BE, THEN, WHEN THE OTHER BUILDING ARE TO BE BUILT, THE EXISTING POLICE BUILDING WILL BE DEMOLISHED AND A NEW POLICE HEADQUARTERS WILL THEN REPLACE THE EXISTING FIRE STATION RIGHT AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF JACKSON AND DR. CARREON, AND THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS WILL BE A TWO-STORY BUILDING OF 40,000 SQUARE FEET.

AND IF WE COULD REFER JUST TO THE SITE PLAN JUST LOWER RIGHT SO WE COULD FOLLOW THROUGH EACH OF THE BUILDING, SO THE PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES BUILDING, AND I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH THE FLOOR PLAN, CONSISTS OF EVIDENCE, STAFF FACILITY, WAITING AREA FOR THE PUBLIC AND OFFICE OF PUBLIC FACING AND ALL THE NEEDED TRAINING AREA, AS WELL AS KIND OF STAFF OFFICES THAT IS HIGHLY NEEDED AS OF RIGHT NOW.

JUST KIND OF AN EXAMPLE OF THE ELEVATION THERE TO THE UPPER RIGHT OF THE SCREEN OF WHAT THIS WILL POTENTIALLY LOOK LIKE.

AND THE ELEVATIONS OF THE BUILDING AND OBVIOUSLY IT PROVIDE YOU WITH VERY DIFFERENT DEPTHS, COLOR VARIATIONS, WINDOWS, A LOT OF BUILDING DIFFERENTIATIONS IN THE FACADE.

THE DISPATCH CENTER, WHICH IS JUST BELOW THAT BUILDING, IS WHERE -- I APOLOGIZE.

THERE WILL BE A DISPATCH AREA FOR OFFICERS, AS WELL AS A CONCERT OPERATION, TRAINING SEPARATE BUILDING FROM THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING TO THE NORTH OF THAT.

IT WILL BE ONE-STORY BUILDING, AND TO YOUR UPPER RIGHT THERE IS A DIFFERENT COLOR COMBINATION TO KIND OF DIFFERENTIATE THE BUILDING, BUT SIMILAR TO THE ONES WE SAW PREVIOUSLY WITH DIFFERENT DEPTHS AND COLOR VARIATIONS AS WELL.

AND THE ELEVATION FOR THE DISPATCH CENTER.

SO YOU CAN SEE KIND OF SIMILARITY, BUT DIFFERENTIATION IN THE COLOR, ORANGE AND NOW BLUE FOR THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING.

AND THEN FOR THE FIRE STATION WHICH WILL GO RIGHT BELOW THE TWO OTHER BUILDINGS, OBVIOUSLY RED COLOR, SIMILAR IN BUILDING STYLE, AND IT WILL HOUSE THEIR EQUIPMENT, STAFF, THE STAFF FACILITY THAT WILL BE HERE.

THEY WILL HAVE THEIR DORM FOR THE FIREFIGHTERS, AS WELL AS UTILIZING THEIR COMMON SPACES HERE, STAFF AREA, AND THEN I BELIEVE PUBLIC LOBBY FACILITY.

AND HERE IS THE ELEVATION FOR THAT PARTICULAR BUILDING.

AND SO THIS IS THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPE PLAN AND ALSO KIND OF SHOWS YOU NOW THE DIFFERENT CONFIGURATIONS OF THE PROPOSED SITE TO THE BACK.

SO I FAILED TO MENTION THAT YOU WILL NOW HAVE, I BELIEVE, EIGHT ACCESS POINTS TO THIS FACILITY, SO THERE IS TWO, THREE OR ACTUALLY FOUR ALONG JACKSON STREET.

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ACTUALLY THREE.

AND THEN ONE HERE IN DR. CARREON.

AND THEN THREE HERE AT BRISTOL STREET.

THE PARKING SPACES WILL ALSO BE RIGHT HERE FROM THE EXISTING INDIO POLICE BUILDING.

AND SO EVERYTHING WILL BE ACCOMMODATED AS THESE BUILDING GO UP WITH THEIR OWN SEPARATE PARKING SPACES UTILIZING EMERGENCY EXIT UP HERE OR POLICE ACCESS UP HERE.

AND FOR THE BUILDING PLANS, IT WILL SHOW ACCENT TREES, PALM TREES, OBVIOUSLY TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF MAKE THIS A TRUE CAMPUS FACILITY.

AND JUST TO KIND OF SHOWCASE THE VARIETY OF LANDSCAPING THAT WILL GO INTO THE PROJECT SITE.

AND SO WE COME HERE BEFORE YOU AS STAFF AND AS THE APPLICANT FOR YOUR FEEDBACK ABOUT THE DESIGN AND SITE DESIGN OF THIS FACILITY, AND WE HAVE OUR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER SCOTT TRUJILLO, AS WELL AS THE ARCHITECT MATT ACTON, THAT WILL ALSO ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PROJECT.

THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS? TO STAFF.

>> ALWAYS A FEW.

THANK YOU, NIKKI.

THAT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION, AND I REALLY LIKED HOW YOU TOUCH AT THE VERY BEGINNING ABOUT THE PHASING BECAUSE ONE OF MY BIGGER CONCERNS WAS WHAT HAPPENS TO THE EXISTING BUILDING 1 BOTH THE POLICE AND FIRE STATION THAT ARE THERE NOW.

IS THERE ANY TIMING IN TERMS OF THE PHASES HOW LONG IT MITES BE UNTIL WE DO A PHASE 2?

>> SO I CAN SPEAK FOR AND I WILL CALL TO OUR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER FOR A VERY DETAILED TIMELINE, BUT FOR THE ONES THAT ARE SHOWN HERE, THIS WILL GO THROUGH ENTITLEMENTS AND BUILDING WITHIN TO SAY THREE YEARS.

AND SO THE NEXT PHASE I WOULD CALL ON HIM TO SPECIFY ONE THAT WILL BE, AND THAT IS A PHASE WHERE THE NEW POLICE DEPARTMENT BUILDING WILL COME IN.

>> YEAH, I THINK OVERALL THE PROJECT IS VERY EXCITING.

I LIKE THE NEWER ARCHITECTURE.

I WAS JUST A BIT CONCERNED HOW IT WOULD LOOK WITH THESE NEWER FACILITIES AGAINST THESE REALLY OLDER ONES.

I'M JUST CURIOUS WHAT THE TIMING MIGHT BE ON THAT.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CEJA.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANY OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS?

>> YEAH, I HAVE A COUPLE.

AM I SEEING THIS THE WAY THE PARKING LOOKS, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S PARKING STRUCTURE.

IS THAT SHADED? IS THAT SOLAR THAT THEY'RE ANTICIPATING TO COVER ALL OF PARKING OR IS THAT JUST KIND OF GRAYED OUT IN THE -- IN -- WHAT IS THIS? -- THE OVERALL SITE PLAN, ONE OF THE LAST ONES WE SAW.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOLAR PANELS OR JUST COVERED PARKING OR IT'S A GRAYED-OUT AREA.

>> I CAN ANSWER TO THAT AS WELL.

IT WILL BE A CARPORT.

>> GOOD EVENING, MADAME CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

SCOTT TRUJILLO.

>> WE'RE NOT THERE YET.

>> GO AHEAD, SCOTT.

MR. TRUJILLO, GO AHEAD.

>> THIS IS MATT.

I COULD TRY AND START THERE BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS OPEN FOR APPLICANT COMMENTS YET.

>> YEAH, AND JUST AS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, SO THIS IS ZACH HEINSELMAN, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.

THIS IS A STUDY SESSION HERE, SO WE'RE NOT AS LOCKED INTO THE STRICT PUBLIC HEARING PROCEDURES THAT WE FOLLOWED EARLIER THIS EVENING, SO AT THE CHAIR'S DISCRETION, THERE'S A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY IN SOME OF THE BACK-AND-FORTH.

AGAIN, THIS IS A STUDY SESSION FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO KIND OF GET SOME FEEDBACK AND PROJECT CONSULTATION.

>> CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?

>> YES.

OKAY.

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I GUESS SO GO AHEAD, SCOTT.

>> HE'S STILL MUTED.

>> THERE MUST BE A DELAY, RIGHT?

>> MADAME CHAIR, IF I MAY, THIS IS MATT WITH HOLT ARCHITECTURE.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.

TO THE COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, AND HOPEFULLY SCOTT JOINS BACK IN HERE, YOU'RE CORRECT THAT ALL THE PARKING, WHAT WE CALL SECURE PARKING WHICH IS ALL THE AREA IN BETWEEN ALL THE BUILDINGS, IS PLANNED TO HAVE COVERED AT THE MINIMUM THE INTENT CERTAINLY IS IF WE BUDGET PERTAINING, IF WE CAN GET COVERED PARKING IN ALL OF THOSE AREAS, THEY WILL LIKELY BE SOLAR.

THAT'S A DISCUSSION THAT WE STILL HAVE WITH THE CITY AND AS WE'RE SHAPING THE BUDGET AS TO HOW WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PULL THAT OFF.

>> THAT'S GREAT.

I DON'T SEE ANY REAL PERIMETER WALLS.

IS THIS GOING TO BE MORE OF AN OPEN CAMPUS STYLE OR IS THIS JUST SOMETHING THAT HASN'T BEEN ADDED AT THIS TIME?

>> THEY ARE VERY SIMILAR ACTUALLY TO THE OTHER PROJECTS WE'RE LOOKING AT, AN EIGHT FOOT BLOCK WALL FOR THE PERIMETER.

I LITTLE DIFFICULT TO SEE.

MAYBE THE BEST EXAMPLE, IF YOU CAN SEE JUST TO THE RIGHT OF YELLOW COMMUNICATION DISPATCH BUILDING, THERE'S A NORTH-SOUTH LINE BETWEEN THAT AND THE RETENTION BASIN AND IT RETURNS BACK TO FRONT OF THE PSS BUILDING AS IT GOES NORTH AND THEN LEFT.

SO IT IS SECURED.

WE'RE TRYING TO INTERTWINE IT BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS AS BEST WE CAN BUT NOT FORCE BLOCK WALLS TO DO ALL THE WORK.

ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION THAT WE HAVE THROUGH THE ENTITLEMENT PROCESS AS A COMMENT IS THAT ALL SITE WALLS, PERIMETER WALLS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE WITHIN X NUMBER OF FEET OR INCHES FROM THE LOT LINES.

SO I NEED TO WORK WITH NIKKI AND LEILA FURTHER ON THAT COMMENT IN PARTICULAR.

AS WE'VE TRIED TO ACTUALLY PULL THESE WALLS BACK FROM THE STREET ROUGHLY AS MUCH AS WE CAN TO PROVIDE THAT SECURE PERIMETER AS WELL AS TRYING TO SOFTEN THE STREETSCAPE, GIVES MORE ROOM FOR THE PLANTING THAT YOU SAW AS WELL.

>> YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD COMMENT.

IF THERE'S OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THOSE WALLS RETURN TO THE BUILDING LIKE YOU HAVE ON THAT PSS ONE, THERE MIGHT BE SOME BENEFIT TO DO THE SAME ON THE DISPATCH CENTER TO, AGAIN, CAPTURE MORE LANDSCAPE AND NOT CREATING THAT BUILDING WALL NO MAN'S SPACE.

>> SURE.

WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK AT THAT.

ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT'S BECOME A TOPIC WITH THE TEAM IS BLAST, I DON'T WANT TO USE THE CONCERN WITH DISPATCH.

THE CONCERNS WITH THAT WALL IS IT WILL BE A BLAST PROTECTOR, MEANING NOT TO OPEN IT FULLY, THE BUILDING ELEVATION FULLY TO THE STREETSCAPE.

>> YEAH, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT A TALLER WALL.

ARE WE LOOKING AT A TALLER WALL AROUND THE ENTIRE PERIMETER OF THE PROJECT ALONG JACKSON AND DR. CARREON AS WELL? I'D BE WORRIED ABOUT THE DESIGN OF IT.

>> SORRY FOR THAT, COMMISSIONER.

IN AIR MACRO SENSE, ALL OF THE SITE WALLS DO JOG BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS IN THE PERIMETER, SO WE DO TRY AND MAXIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF ACTUAL BUILDING PROJECT THAT'S EXPOSED.

NIKKI, IF YOU ARE CONTROLLING THE POINTER, YOU POINTED TIE GREAT SPOT, THE EXISTING WALL GOING TO THAT INTO THE BUILDING OF THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE FIRE STATION TERMINATES AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF PD.

SO WE CERTAINLY TRIED TO MAXIMIZE HOW MUCH OF THE BUILDING ARE ACTUALLY EXPOSED AND OPEN TO THE STREETSCAPE.

>> ALONG THAT NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE, IS THERE ANY WALL IMPROVEMENT THERE? I NOTICE NOW WHEN YOU GO DOWN JACKSON, THERE'S A 15-FOOT GAP BETWEEN WHERE THE RESIDENCES ARE AND IT'S PAR ACTUALLY TURFED AND THEN YOU HAVE A WALL WHERE THE POLICE PARKING IS.

>> YEP, WE'VE MAINTAINED -- WE'RE BUILDING NEW, BUT RIGHT WHERE THE POINTER'S AT, THERE'S ANOTHER WALL THERE.

THERE IS A GAP OBVIOUSLY, AS YOU NOTE, SO WE COULD LOOK TO DO MORE POTENTIALLY IMPROVEMENTS ALONG THAT WALL WHEN IT COMES T AND THINGS.

I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK OUT OF TURN AS TO HOW CLOSE WE CAN PLANT CERTAIN ELEMENTS AND SO FORTH WITH THE RESIDENTS.

BUT THAT ACTUALLY IS PROBABLY OUR LONGEST EXPOSED SECTION OF WALL, IS UP ON THAT NORTH SIDE.

>> AND CONCERNS THE DEAD SPACE IS THAT NO ONE USES OR HAS ACCESS TO AND THEY'RE FORGOTTEN, WHY NOT BUILD A NEW WALL JUST ALONG THOSE RESIDENCES AT EIGHT FEET AND IMPROVE THOSE PROPERTIES WITH NEW BLOCK WALLS AND GET THE WALL THAT YOU NEED AND

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ELIMINATE THAT DEAD SPACE.

>> IT'S A GREAT COMMENT.

WE TRIED TO RESPECT THAT LINE AND ACTUALLY SEPARATE AS MUCH AS WE COULD OUT OF OUR OWN ASSUMPTION OF PROACTIVELY BEING NICE NEIGHBORS.

BUT I WOULDN'T VENTURE A GUESS THAT THERE'S ANY CONCERN FROM THE TEAM, AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR SCOTT, BUT FROM A DESIGN PERSPECTIVE, THAT WOULD HAVE VERY LITTLE IMPACT TO ACCOMPLISH.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE ONE QUESTION, AND I KIND OF GREW UP AROUND THE AREA THERE.

LOOKING AT -- I'M TRYING TO ZOOM IN.

IS THAT LITTLE ALLEYWAY, THERE'S A LITTLE ALLEY THAT'S KIND OF BETWEEN THE HOMES AND I BELIEVE IT'S THE POLICE/FIRE DEPARTMENT OR I GUESS WHAT'S PROPOSED.

IS THAT STILL THERE? I REMEMBER HEARING SOME CONCERNS FROM -- BACK WHEN SCHOOL WAS OPEN -- SOME OF THE STUDENTS HAVING TO WALK HOME FROM SCHOOL, THEY WOULD HAVE TO CUT THROUGH THERE, AND IT KIND OF BEING UNSAFE, SO I'M NOT SURE IF THAT -- THIS IS MAYBE TWO YEARS AGO.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT LITTLE ALLEYWAY IS STILL OPEN.

OR IS IT CONNECTED TO THIS PROJECT?

>> WOULD THAT BE THE SAME AREA WE WERE REFERENCING WITH COMMISSIONER CEJA, THE NORTH OF OUR CURRENT BLOCK WALL BETWEEN OUR SITE AND THE RESIDENCES?

>> I BELIEVE SO.

IT'S KIND OF -- YES.

>> THAT'S ONE HERE, IF WE DO MOVE THOSE WALLS NORTH, THAT WE WOULD ELIMINATE THAT CUT-THROUGH.

IF THAT'S A PREFERENCE, GIVEN THESE COMMENTS, IF IT'S MAYBE MORE OF A DESIRE TO MAIN TAINT JUST FOR THE COMMUNITY USAGE, BUT MAYBE THERE'S -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE POLICE MIGHT ABLE TO DO, BEAUT WE DO TRY TO SOFTEN THAT AREA OR TRY TO LIGHT IT OR TRY AND IMPROVE IT TO ACTUALLY MAKE IT A CONVENIENT ACCESS POINT OR CLOSE IT OFF BY SIMPLY MOVING THE WALLS AND INCORPORATING THAT SITE AREA WITHIN THE PERIMETER.

>> YEAH, THAT WAS THE AREA I WAS REFERRING TO.

AND I THINK THERE ARE PROBABLY TWO OPTIONS.

EITHER YOU REALLY ENHANCE IT AND SOLIDIFY IT AS A PEDESTRIAN CUT-THROUGH OR YOU CAPTURE THAT SPACE AND NOT ALLOW PEOPLE TO USE IT TO THE CAMPUS ITSELF.

BUT I WOULD THINK IT'S WIFE'S US TO KIND OF IGNORE THAT -- WISE OF US TO IGNORE THAT SPACE AND KEEP IT THE WAY IT'S BEEN OPERATING.

IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT'S A SAFE CONDITION FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.

>> I AGREE.

>> AS WE WOULD TALK WITH SCOTT AND THE TEAM COMING OUT OF THIS MEDIUM, OF COURSE, WHAT WOULD BE THE I GUESS PREFERRED DIRECTION AS WE TALK ABOUT IMPROVEMENTS? MY THOUGHT IS MAYBE WE COULD ADD SIDEWALK THROUGH THAT SIDE, THE POTENTIAL DOWNSIDE WE WOULD HAVE TO WORK WITH NIKKI AND LEILA, DOES THAT MEANS IT'S A RIGHT-OF-WAY AND WE GO THROUGH SOME PAPERWORK SHUFFLING TO TRY TO DEDICATE RIGHT-OF-WAY IN THERE? WHAT WOULD BE THE COMMISSION'S PREFERENCE ON THAT AREA?

>> MY INITIAL THOUGHT WAS JUST TO CAPTURE IT.

AND MAKE THE PART OF THE CAMPUS.

>> I HAVEN'T -- I HAVEN'T LIVED IN THAT AREA, SO CHAIR LOPEZ, YOU HAVE.

DO YOU THINK THAT THAT IS AN IMPORTANT PUBLIC ACCESS POINT FOR PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD OR, IF NOT, WOULD IT BE BETTER TO CAPTURE IT?

>> SO FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, WE USED TO CUT THROUGH THERE, WE CAME FROM THE BOYS & GIRLS CLUB TO CUT THROUGH, BUT HOWEVER, I REMEMBER GOING AND VISITING SOME OF THE TEACHERS AND STUDENTS ROOSEVELT.

I WENT TO ROOSEVELT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

AND THAT WAS A CONCERN AREA FOR SOME STUDENTS, AND I GUESS SOME TRANSIENTS KIND OF BEING IN THAT AREA.

I DON'T KNOW -- I DON'T KNOW IF THE POLICE CHIEF OR THE ASSISTANT POLICE CHIEF CAN ANSWER TO THAT, BUT I KNOW THAT IT WAS A PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERN FOR SOME OF THE STUDENTS WHO WERE WALKING HOME FROM SCHOOL OR TRYING TO CUT, TAKE A SHORTCUT THROUGH THERE.

>> IF I MAY, COMMISSIONERS.

>> THOSE CONCERNS WERE BROUGHT TO ME BY SOME OF THE TEACHERS AT ROOSEVELT ELEMENTARY.

>> IF I MAY, COMMISSIONERS, AND CITY STAFF, CAN YOU HEAR ME?

>> YES, WE CAN.

>> GREAT.

SOME OF THE CONCERNS ON THAT NORTH ACCESS WAY COULD BE WITH OUR HOMELESS AND TRANSIENT POPULATION COULD SET UP CAMP AND WE COULD HAVE DIFFICULTY MOVING THEM

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TO A NEW LOCATION.

WE WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE THEM ACCESS TO ANOTHER FACILITY OR LOCATION FOR THEM TO LIVE.

SO WE WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO MOVE THEM.

WE WOULD PROBABLY -- THE ACCESS POINT THERE, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE CAPTURE IT FOR THE CAMPUS AND THEN HAVE THE STUDENTS MAYBE GO ALONG THE OUTSIDE OF THE CAMPUS IN A MORE VISIBLE AREA WHERE THEY COULD BE SEEN BY THE PUBLIC, AND I THINK THAT MAY BE A SAFER WAY TO TRAVERSE THAT AREA, BUT DEFINITELY THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF THE IMMEDIATE THOUGHTS THAT I HAVE ON THAT ISSUE, BUT WE'RE OPEN FOR IDEAS.

>> MADAME CHAIRPERSON, I HAVE SOMETHING FOR THAT ACCESS POINT.

>> I'M SORRY? WHAT WAS THAT?

>> I SAID IT'S LEILA NAMVAR.

I WAS ASKING IF I MAY ADD SOMETHING TO THAT ACCESS POINT.

>> YES.

>> THANK YOU.

SO WE HAVE PLANNED TO COME BACK BEFORE THE COMMISSION FOR DESIGN REVIEW AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, SO WE WILL LOOK INTO THAT.

I KNOW THAT WE DID A PARCEL MAP FOR THIS PROJECT AND THERE WAS SOME EASEMENT ON THAT NORTH PART, WHICH IS THE ACCESS POINT.

SO IF WE CAN RESOLVE THAT AND TALK TO MR. TRUJILLO AND THE REST OF THE TEAM, WE WILL COME BACK WITH SOME RECOMMENDATION AT THE HEARING.

BUT WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT BECAUSE, AS I SAID, THERE WAS SOME RECORD EASE ON THE NORTH PORTION.

>> THANK YOU, LEILA.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME.

>> COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ CEJA, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD?

>> YEAH, I WAS JUST THINKING IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP BY THE COMMUNITY, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S ALREADY A PEDESTRIAN ACCESS POINT, WHETHER IT WAS INTENDED TO BE OR NOT TO BE, I THINK IT WOULD BE WORTH TALKING TO THE IMMEDIATE COMMUNITY AND SEEING IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE THEN FORMALIZED AND IMPROVED TO GIVE BETTER ACCESS TO ESPECIALLY CHILDREN THAT ARE -- I REMEMBER WANTING TO GET HOME AS SOON AS SCHOOL WAS OVER, AND IF THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE TO THE STUDENTS NEARBY, I THINK IT'S DEFINITELY WORTH CONSIDERING, AND I THINK LIGHTING AND IMPROVING THAT AREA WOULD PROBABLY BE SOMETHING OF BENEFIT, BUT I THINK ALSO THE SECURITY CONCERNS, YOU KNOW, IF THIS IS A AREA THAT THE COMMUNITY ADJACENT TO THIS PROJECT ARE SAYING, LET'S CLOSE IT OFF, I THINK THAT THAT SHOULD BE DEFINITELY SOMETHING TO CONSIDER, SO I'M HAPPY TO HEAR MS. NAMVAR SAY THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY'LL BE TAKING MORE DEEPLY INTO OBSERVATION.

>> AND THEN -- >> LEILA -- I'M SORRY.

GO AHEAD.

>> MADAME CHAIRPERSON, I BELIEVE MR. TRUJILLO WOULD LIKE TO TALK, HOWEVER, FOR SOME REASON HIS AUDIO IS DELAYED, SO I GUESS W TO -- WE NEED TO JUST WAIT A LITTLE BIT SO THAT HIS AUDIO CATCHES UP WITH US.

>> OKAY.

>> AND WEEK MADAME CHAIR, THIS IS MATT AGAIN.

THERE WAS ONE OTHER QUESTION EARLIER FROM A COMMISSIONER REGARDING THE PHASING AND TIMING.

CERTAINLY I WILL DEFER THAT TO MR. TRUJILLO.

HOWEVER, I.

OUR INVENT WITH THIS PROCESS AND SUBMITTAL WITH ENTITLEMENT WAS MAINLY GEARED TO SECURE THE APPROVAL TO BUILD THAT SECOND FADES.

I THINK THE CITY -- SECOND PHASE.

I THINK THE CITY OBVIOUSLY DUE FOUNDING AND BUDGETING AND SO FORTH, THE TIMING AS TO WHEN THAT PHASE 2 MIGHT BE BUILT, I WOULD SAY, IS HAZY AS THE BEST.

IT'S NOT INTENDED AT THE MOMENT TO BE CONCURRENT UPON COMPLETION OF PHASE 1.

IT MAY BE DELAYED A FEW YEARS TO SEVERAL YEARS.

SO WE HAD RECOMMENDED THAT THIS PROJECT INCORPORATE THAT, THE CEQA DOCUMENT INCLUDES THAT PHASE.

WE BRING IT FORTH, BUT THAT'S ALSO WHY YOU DON'T SEE ARCHITECTURAL DEVELOPMENT AND FEATURES ON THAT PHASE.

IT'S MORE A FOOTPRINT AND A VISION FOR THE FUTURE RATHER THAN AN INTENDED FIVE YEARS OUT OR SOME TIMELINE TO IT.

>> I THINK IN ADDITION TO YOUR TIMING QUESTION, I'M CURIOUS IF THERE'S ANY GRANTS OUT THERE OR IF WE DO SEE THE ARCHITECTURE, WE APPROVE THE ENTIRETY OF THE CAMPUS EVEN THOUGH IT IS BROKEN INTO TWO PHASES, IF THAT MAKES IT MORE

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SHOVEL-READY, MORE ATTRACTIVE FOR GRANTS ON PUBLIC SAFETY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

I THINK MY ONLY -- I DON'T KNOW FIGHTS A CONCERN, BUT IF WE SHOW PHASE 2, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THE GENERAL PLAN.

THIS IS OUTSIDE THE DOWNTOWN CORE BUT OBVIOUSLY VERY CLOSE.

JACKSON IS A PRIMARY CORRIDOR.

WE REALLY SEEMED TO SUBURBANIZE THE JACKSON STREET CORRIDOR WITH THIS SITE PLAN.

WE PUSHED ALL THE ACTUAL BUILDING OFF TO BRISTOL AWAY FROM THE MAIN THOROUGHFARE AND JUST ADDED PARKING ALONG JACKSON.

I THINK THAT WAS A MISSED OPPORTUNITY THAT THE COUNTY DID AT JACKSON AND HIGHWAY 111 WITH THE COUNTY BUILDING THERE, BUT ONE THAT WAS BETTER EXECUTED WITH THE COURTHOUSE AND THE DETENTION CENTER ON HIGHWAY 111 WHERE WE HAVE BUILDINGS BACK CLOSER TO THE STREET.

>> UNDERSTOOD.

CERTAINLY THE GIVEN CHALLENGE WE FACED AS HAVING TO MAINTAIN OPERATIONS FOR THOSE TWO EXISTING BUILDINGS ON JACKSON AND FORCING US TO GO BACK BEHIND THE SITE.

IT WAS OUR HOPE IN TRYING TO PROTECT IN FRONT THE TWO, WHAT THE TEAM FEELS IS THE MOST PUBLIC CONNECTED BUILDINGS BEING THE FUTURE PD AND IF FIRE STATION.

DISPATCH DOESN'T HAVE A PUBLIC FACING ELEMENT.

PSS BUILDING BEING PROPERTY AND EVIDENCE.

AND FIRE MARSHAL OFFICES.

THEY HAVE PUBLIC BUT MORE LIMITED, SO WE DID TRY AND TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT IN THE LOCATION AT LEAST OF WHAT WE COULD CONTROL WITH THE FIRE STATION BEING IMMEDIATELY DOWN ON DR. CARREON, OUTWARD FACIN AND THE SAME WITH THE FUTURE PD TRYING TO GET IT FRONT AND CENTER AND PROMINENT ON THAT CORRIDOR BETWEEN THE TWO INTERSECTIONS.

>> YEAH, UNDERSTOOD.

I THINK IT'S JUST A BROADER COMMENT OF I THOUGHT THE DIRECTION THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF AN URBAN CONTEXT, AND MAYBE AT LEAST A PHASE 2 DOESN'T NECESSARILY PULL THAT OFF, I DON'T THINK, BUT WORTH EXPLORING AS YOU GUYS FLESH OUT THE PLAN.

>> ARE WE STILL WAITING FOR SCOTT TO CHIME IN OR -- >> MADAME CHAIRPERSON, I THINK HE WAS FINE FOR US TO PROCEED.

>> DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS?

>> I HAVE A COUPLE.

FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THIS IS VERY MUCH NEEDED BY OUR COMMUNITY, AND I THINK THE ARCHITECTURE IS VERY NICE.

I LIKE THE MODERNNESS, ALL OF THE DIFFERENT FEATURES OF THE BUILDING, NOT JUST STRAIGHT WALLS.

I LOVE THE COLOR USE FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, OF COURSE, IS RED, POLICE, OF COURSE, IS BLUE.

IT'S VERY -- I DON'T KNOW.

I THINK IT'S A VERY, VERY NICE USE FOR PUBLIC SERVICE OFFICES, AND I KNOW THAT WE NEED THE SPACE AND WE NEED THE EXTRA BUILDING AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

SO I FOR ONE AM VERY EXCITED TO SEE THIS AND HOPE THAT IT MOVES FORWARD AS QUICKLY AS BUDGET AND COVID AND EVERYTHING ELSE WILL ALLOW FOR IT TO BE.

I DO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER CEJA THAT THE BUILDINGS, WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT MOVING THEM AS CLOSE TO THE STREET AS POSSIBLE, THAT AS YOU KIND OF GO THROUGH THESE PHASES, I KNOW YOU HAVE TO YOU'RE BUILDING, BUT JUST KIND OF KEEP THAT IN MIND.

OVERALL, I THINK IT'S GREAT.

THE ONLY THING I DID NOT SEE ON THE CONCEPTUAL PLANS WAS DATE PALMS, OUR SIGNATURE INDIO TREE OR PALM, AND I DON'T SEE ANY ON HERE UNLESS I'M MISREADING THE PLANS, WHICH IS POSSIBLE.

SO I THINK -- THERE IS SOME.

OKAY.

DO WE KNOW WHERE OTHERS GOING? IS IT JUST THAT ONE LITTLE CORNER OR WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO GO?

>> I WILL HAVE TO CLAIM TO NOT KNOW EXACTLY ALL OF THE LOCATIONS ON THE LANDSCAPE.

SO WE COULD LOOK AT THAT.

>> IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS ON THE CORNER, ON THE CORNER OF DR. CARREON AND JACKSON ON THE SOUTH CORNER, ALSO ON BRISTOL.

AGAIN ON THE NORTH AND ON THE SOUTH.

SO AND AGAIN ON DR. CARREON.

SO YOU SEE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX AREAS THAT THERE ARE CLUSTERS OF PALMS.

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>> OKAY.

THEY'RE HARD FOR ME TO SEE IN THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN, ABOUT IT TRUST YOU, LEILA, THAT THEY'RE THERE.

BUT THEY ARE IMPORTANT TO THE CITY.

THEY ARE A SIGNIFICANT PIECE.

SO I WOULD LIKE THEM TO BE PROMINENT THROUGHOUT THE ENTRY AND FOCAL POINTS OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

OTHER THAN THAT I THINK THIS IS GREAT AND LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THIS START TO MOVE FORWARD.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER FRANZ.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS?

>> I'M WONDERING, AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUDGET, BUT I'M WONDERING IF ALL THE THINGS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER TO DIFFERENT APPLICANTS COULD BE APPLIED TO MAYBE THIS PROJECT THAT IS A LITTLE MORE UNDER OUR CONTROL, THINKING BUT HOW WE'RE INCORPORATING COMMUNITY, EVEN COMMUNITY OWNERSHIP THROUGH ART IN THIS AREA, SOLAR PANELS, RENEWABLE ENERGY, ROBUST LANDSCAPE.

I THINK THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO CONSIDER AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.

I THINK THAT THE COMMISSION, AND I'VE BEEN HERE FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, BUT THESE ARE THE I THINK SAME THINGS WE'RE CONSTANTLY ASKING, THE SAME QUESTIONS.

I THINK IT'S ONLY FAIR TO SAY THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO GROW OUR APPLICANTS AS THEY'RE MOVING FORWARD, I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO CONSIDER THIS IN CITY PROJECTS SO THAT WE HAVE REAL PROJECTS TO POINT TO AND SAY, LOOK, THIS IS HOW A SUCCESSFUL VISION OF THE FUTURE FOR THE CITY LOOKS LIKE.

SO JUST MY COMMENT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I'LL SECOND THAT.

>> I ALSO WANT TO MAKE A REAL QUICK COMMENT.

MY COMPUTER FROZE AS I WAS WATCHING.

SIGNAGE.

IS THERE ANYTHING ON THE SIGNAGE OR DID I MISS THAT, KIND OF GLOSS OVER THAT?

>> THERE WILL BE BUILDING SIGNAGE.

IT'S NOT WELL DEFINED AT THE MOMENT OF WHAT THAT MIGHT BE.

MOST SPECIFICALLY, WE ARE LOOKING AT CAMPUS SIGNAGE, SO MAYBE A MONUMENT SIGN AT THE MAIN ENTRY ON THIS IMAGE MIDDL THERE ON JACKSON.

ALSO ON THE RIGHT ACROSS ON THAT INTERNAL ACCESS ROAD TO BRISTOL.

AND A MAIN SIGN DOWN AT THE CORNER, THE CLUSTER OF LANDSCAPE ON THE SOUTHEAST SIDE, BOTTOM RIGHT SIDE OF THE FIRE STATION.

CERTAINLY IN PHASE 2 WHEN THE PD IS MOVED DOWN TO THAT LOWER CORNER, WE WOULD HIGHLIGHT THAT CORNER WITH SIGNAGE AS WELL, BUT IN TALKING WITH THE TEAM, CURRENT DIRECTION IS TO PROMOTE THIS AS A CAMPUS RATHER THAN POTENTIALLY INDIVIDUAL BUILDING MONUMENT SIGNS AND SUCH, SO WE PICKED JUST A FEW SELECT POINTS FOR THOSE LOCATIONS.

>> THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER -- VICE CHAIR YSIANO, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS?

>> NO, I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS AT THIS TIME.

SO FAR THE PROJECT LOOKS GREAT.

WELL, I GUESS I'LL ECHO COMMISSIONER FRANZ.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MAYBE MORE PROMINENT USE OF DATE PALMS, MAYBE IF THERE'S SOME OTHER LOCATIONS ON THE ENTRANCES AT JACKSON WHERE WE CAN PLACE THOSE AND MAYBE REQUEST AT LEAST LIKE A MINIMUM HEIGHT FOR THE MAIN SPOTS TO BE PLACING THOSE ON BRISTOL AND MAYBE THAT SOUTHEAST CORNER, SOUTHWEST CORNER.

>> THANK YOU.

I'LL JUST SAY I'VE KIND OF GROWN UP IN THAT LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD THERE.

I THINK IT'S A REALLY NICE, BEAUTIFUL BUILDING.

I THINK IT'S MUCH NEEDED.

I WANT TO SAY PROBABLY THE LATEST OR THE NEWEST WAS THE LITTLE HOME DEVELOPMENT A BLOCK AWAY, BUT I THINK IT WILL ENHANCE THAT CORNER, ESPECIALLY FOR SOME OF THE HOMEOWNERS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET AT COLONY PARK OR ADJACENT AT THE OTHER COMMUNITY.

BUT LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THE NEXT STEPS AND WHAT THIS NEW CAMPUS WILL LOOK LIKE.

I KNOW IT'S LONG OVERDUE AND REALLY EXCITED, ESPECIALLY FOR OUR DISPATCHERS BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THEY'VE BEEN IN THOSE PORTICOS FOR QUITE SOME TIME, SO THAT'S ALL I REALLY HAVE TO SAY RIGHT NOW.

BUT THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

>> IF I CAN, CHAIR, I APOLOGIZE FOR THIS BUT MAYBE ONE FINAL COMMENT.

THE PROJECT IS VERY NEEDED.

I THINK WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT.

I LIKE WHAT WE'RE SEEING.

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I THINK MY BIG TAKE WAY FROM THIS IS WE KEEP CALLING IT A CAMPUS, WHICH TO ME IMPLIES AND IT'S OPEN AND YOU CAN WALK EVERYWHERE, BUT THAT'S JUST WHERE MY MIND GOES.

I KNOW THIS REALLY ISN'T INTENDED AS A PUBLIC SPACE.

THERE NEED TO BE SECURED AREAS FORT POLICE, ET CETERA.

BUT WHAT I REALLY AM CONCERNED WITH IS HOW THIS GETS DESIGNED AROUND THE PUBLIC STREETS, PARTICULARLY JACKSON.

WHAT I WOULD HATE TO SEE IS ESSENTIALLY A FORTRESS WHERE THERE'S NO INTERACTION WITH THE REST OF THE CITY AND THIS PLACE IS COMPLETELY CLOSED OFF.

SO AS YOU'RE WORKING THROUGH THE DESIGN, PLEASE BE MINDFUL.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR OR WHAT THE INTENT OF THIS SITE IS.

>> THANK YOU.

SO SINCE THIS IS LIKE A PROJECT CONSULTATION, ZACH, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS?

>> I DON'T BELIEVE SO, CHAIR.

THE ONLY THING I WOULD ASK IS MAYBE IF MS. CASTILLO CAN CONFIRM WHETHER ANY PUBLIC TESTIMONY OR REQUEST FOR PUBLIC TESTIMONY WAS PROVIDED.

BUT IF NOT, SINCE IT IS JUST A STUDY SESSION, AGAIN, THE COMMISSION IS NOT MAKING ANY DECISIONS OR DETERMINATIONS.

>> NO PUBLIC COMMENTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED.

>> I KNOW THIS IS AN EARLY ON CONCEPT.

HAS THE COMMUNITY AROUND THE CAMPUS, HAVE THEY BEEN NOTIFIED ABOUT ANY OF THIS? OR THE CONCEPT OF THIS NEW CAMPUS? I KNOW THERE'S BEEN TALK WITH LIKE THE PASSING OF A MEASURE, MEASURE X, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY OUTREACH OR ANY INTEREST FROM THE COMMUNITY NEARBY OR IF THIS IS JUST EARLY ON.

>> I DON'T RECALL A COMMUNITY OUTREACH, BUT MR. ATKINS CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

HOWEVER, WHEN THE PROJECT WAS BEFORE YOU FOR THE PARCEL MAP, WE NOTIFIED EVERYBODY WITHIN 300 RADIUS AT THE TIME OF THIS PROJECT COMING FORWARD.

THE ENVIRONMENTAL HAS BEEN NOTICED, SO THERE IS NOTICE FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL FOR THE PROJECT IN THE NEWSPAPER AT THE COUNTY ALSO ON OUR WEBSITE.

AGAIN, WHEN IT COMES BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, IT WILL BE NOTICED.

>> WHEN YOU SAY THE RESIDENTS, YOU SAID THE RESIDENTS WERE NOTIFIED?

>> CORRECT.

AT THE TIME OF THE PARCEL MAP THAT IT CAME BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION TWO OR THREE MONTHS BOUNDARY OF THIS PROJECT WERE NOTIFIED.

>> THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE, WAS THAT ALL IN ENGLISH OR WAS THAT BILINGUAL?

>> IT WAS ALL IN ENGLISH, BUT WE ALSO SAY HABLA ESPANIOL.

SO IF THEY NEED TO CONTACT US, WE HAVE TRANSLATORS AVAILABLE AT THE CITY.

>> CHAIR, I THINK TO YOUR POINT MAYBE COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ CEJA, ARE WE THINKING MORE OF A COMMUNITY-TYPE MEETING RATHER THAN JUST STANDARD NOTICING FOR A MEETING BUT ACTUAL MEETING WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS?

>> AS I SAID, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY OF THOSE COMMUNITY OUTREACH MEETINGS, BUT CERTAINLY WE CAN -- I CAN GET BACK WITH MR. MR. TRUJILLO TO SEE IF IT WAS DONE BECAUSE THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR ALMOST A YEAR, SO THERE MAY HAVE BEEN.

I JUST DON'T KNOW FOR SURE.

>> GO AHEAD.

>> I'M SORRY, MADAME CHAIRPERSON.

I WAS JUST GOING TO MENTION THAT THE TEAM HAS NOT ORGANIZED ANY DIRECT COMMUNITY OUTREACH MEETINGS IN A PUBLIC SETTING.

>> FROM WHAT I REMEMBER AND SURVEYED IN THAT PART OF THAT DISTRICT, YOU PREDOMINANTLY HAVE A LOT OF SPANISH-SPEAKING-ONLY RETIREES AND MOST OF THEM WORK DURING THE DAY.

PERHAPS IF THEY WOULD HAVE SEEN SOMETHING AND IT WASN'T -- OR IF IT WANTS BILINGUAL, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST WAY OTHER THAN A ZOOM MEETING BECAUSE OF COVID, LIKE WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST WAY PERHAPS LIKE I GUESS IN THE FUTURE, DEPENDING UPON THE - -- THREE MILE RADIUS OF THAT

[02:25:02]

PROJECT IS KIND OF SURVEYING TO SEE PERHAPS WHAT -- IF IT'S A PREDOMINANTLY, LIKE LATINO NEIGHBORHOOD, PERHAPS LOOKING AT BOTH ENGLISH AND SPANISH, BILINGUAL INFORMATION THAT GOES OUT TO THOSE CONSTITUENTS THAT LIVE THERE.

JUST A SUGGESTION.

>> IT'S VERY -- COMMISSIONER OR CHAIRWOMAN LOPEZ'S COMMENT, IT'S VERY MUCH IN TUNE TO THE LATEST RESOLUTION OR A RESOLUTION THAT WAS JUST BARELY -- NOT TOO LONG AGO PASSED BY COUNCIL ASKING FOR US TO START PROVIDING SOME OF THE AGENDAS IN SPANISH AND MOVING TOWARDS THAT DIRECTION.

I THINK IT'S A REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITY, ALSO, TO THINK ABOUT A ROBUST COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS MOVING FORWARD.

WE'VE ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT ACCESSIBILITY, PEDESTRIANS ACTIVATING THE PACE SPACE WITHOUT IT NECESSARILY BEING A PEDESTRIAN ACCESS POINT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

I THINK IT DOES WARRANT AND IT IS GIVES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMUNITY, GIVEN THE POLITICAL, I DON'T KNOW, AIRS FOR THE COMMUNITY TO REALLY COME TOGETHER IN THIS PROCESS AND TO ECHO COMMISSIONER CEJA'S COMMENT EARLIER.

I THINK IT WOULD BE A MISSED OPPORTUNITY FOURS TO CREATE A FORE THERE'S -- FOR US TO CREATE A FORTRESS THAT IS MEANT TO KEEP THE COMMUNITY OUT AS OPPOSED TO INCLUDING THEM IN THIS PROCESS.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US TO HAVE SOME MORE INTERACTION DIRECTLY WITH THE COMMUNITY THAT IS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THIS PROJECT.

> UPON THIS PROJECT? THIS IS SNYDER.

WE REACHED OUT VIA EMAIL AND INDICATED THAT HE'S HAPPY TO TAKE THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO DO COMMUNITY OUTREACH.

HE APOLOGIZES, HE'S STILL HAVING CONNECTION ISSUES.

SO YOU HEARD, I GUESS, VIA ME ON HIS BEHALF THAT HE'S HEARD YOUR SUGGESTIONS AND IS HAPPY TO COORDINATE THOSE.

ONE THING I WOULD NOTE FOR THE RECORD, IT'S VERY TYPICAL, SO THE YEAR OF WORK THAT SENIOR PLANNER NAMVAR REFERENCED IS TYPICALLY THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, AND IT'S VERY TYPICAL TO GO THROUGH THAT.

MR. TRUJILLO AND THE TEAM JUST TOOK THE SITE DESIGN CONCEPT TO COUNCIL RECENTLY, AND COUNCIL IS THE OWNER, IF YOU WILL, OF THE PROJECT AND GOT POSITIVE FEEDBACK ON THE DESIGN CONCEPT.

SO THIS IS REALLY KIND OF THE BEGINNING OF THE PUBLIC OUTREACH PROCESS BECAUSE THEY HAD TO GO THROUGH THE SITE, PRELIMINARY SITE DEVELOPMENT AND GET SIGN-OFF, IF YOU WILL, AT LATEST INITIAL SIGN-OFF FROM THE COUNCIL WHO IS THE OWNER IN THIS INSTANCE.

IT'S NOT UNREASONABLE THAT THAT TAKES SOME TIME.

AND THEN PART OF THE REASON WHY MR. TRUJILLO AND THE TEAM WANTED TO COME TO YOU THIS EVENING IS TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK AS PART OF THAT COMMUNITY OUTREACH PROCESS AS FAR AS FEEDBACK FOR FUTURE CONSIDERATION BY YOU.

AGAIN, MR. TRUJILLO HAS INDICATED HE WILL BE HAPPY TO COORDINATE THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH EFFORTS.

MORE TO COME ON THAT, I'M SURE.

> WHICH IS ABOUT TWO BLOCKS AWAY KIND OF GOING THROUGH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE TO KIND OF ENGAGE AND GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM THAT COMMUNITY CENTER AS WELL.

JUST A SUGGESTION.

>> CHAIRMAN LOPEZ, ONE MORE QUICK QUESTION.

AS WE WERE TALKING, I WAY WAS LOOKING AT THE COLOR PALETTE THAT WAS GIVEN TO US.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT.

SO MY QUESTION IS IT LOOKS LIKE -- I HAD ASSUMED THAT THE RED WAS THE FIRE STATION BECAUSE THAT MAKES SENSE AND THAT THE BLUE WOULD BE THE POLICE STATION, AND I THOUGHT THE ORANGEY COLOR WAS GOING TO BE MAYBE DISPATCH, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S THE OTHER WAY AROUND, AM I CORRECT, THAT THE BLUE IS DISPATCH AND THE ORANGE IS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT? IS THAT CORRECT?

>> THE RED IS THE FIRE STATION.

THE BLUE IS DISPATCH.

THE ORANGE WAS CHOSEN BY THE VARIOUS ENTITIES ON THE STAKEHOLDERS AS THE MOST LIKED OTHER COLOR FROM OPTIONS AS THERE'S BOTH A FIRE PRESENCE IN THIS BUILDING AS WELL AS PD.

SO IT'S THAT SHARED USE, AND THERE'S PUBLIC TRAINING ROOMS. SO A THIRD COLOR WAS INTRODUCED SIMPLY AS A COMMON GROUND FOR EVERYBODY.

>> OKAY.

SO THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT BLUE.

IT'S NOT 100% USED FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

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IT'S A SHARED SPACE.

>> CORRECT.

>> OKAY.

THAT MAKES MORE SENSE.

I LABELS.

THANK YOU.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME.

>> SO I GUESS BEFORE WE KIND OF CLOSE, ANY OTHER FINAL COMMENTS OR DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE ANY COMMENTS TO GIVE TO US?

>> NO.

I JUST THANK EVERYBODY FOR THEIR TIME THIS EVENING.

I KNOW IT'S THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA AND WILL WERE SOME LENGTHY DISCUSSIONS EARLIER.

WE APPRECIATE THE EXCITEMENT AND THE OPINIONS AND VIEWS SHARED TO THIS.

WE'LL WORK WITH NIKKI AND LEILA, THE FIRE AND PD, AS WELL AS MR. TRUJILLO, AND WE'LL BE BACK IN FRONT OF YOU.

I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT DATE, NIKKI, BUT I THINK IN ABOUT A MONTH WE'LL BE BACK.

>> YES.

THAT'S CORRECT.

>> THANK YOU.

AND THANK YOU TO ASSISTANT CHIEF TULLY.

>> THANK YOU ALL.

>> OKAY.

SO I GUESS WE'RE DONE WITH THIS PORTION OR DO I NEED TO CLOSE IT?

>> YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO THE ITEM 11, THE STAFF ITEMS IF YOU'D LIKE.

>> SO STAFF ITEMS, KEVIN.

>> THANK YOU, CHAIRPERSON.

I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG EVENING SO I WILL TRY TO BE VERY BRIEF.

[11. STAFF ITEMS]

JUST A COUPLE OF ITEMS. FIRST OF ALL ON BEHALF OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT WE DO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO PREVIOUS CHAIRPERSON FRANZ AND PREVIOUS VICE CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ FOR THEIR LEADERSHIP DURING 2020 AND WE WANT TO WELCOME CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ AND VICE CHAIRPERSON YSIANO TO THE THEIR RESPECTIVE ROLES AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU.

AS YOU ALL KNOW, 2020 WAS A BUSY YEAR FOR YOU AS A COMMISSION AND US FOR STAFF, AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU IT LOOKS LIKE 2021 IS GOING TO BE THE SAME OR EVEN BUSIER, SO HANG ON BECAUSE I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO BE VERY BUSY.

IN ADDITION TO ALL THE DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY THAT WE ANTICIPATE WILL BE COMING IN FRONT OF YOU, WE'RE ALSO ANTICIPATING A LOT OF POLICY ITEMS, AND I JUST WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT AID.

LOT OF CONVERSATIONS THEY EVENING AROUND DESIGN ISSUES WHICH RELATE BACK TO OUR ZONING CODE UPDATE PROJECT, AND ONE OF THE CHALLENGES OF YOUR JOB IS THAT YOU CAN'T REGULATE FROM THE GENERAL PLAN.

YOU HAVE TO REGULATE FROM THE ZONING REGULATIONS.

AND SO WE HOPE TO BE BRINGING THOSE ZONING REGULATIONS IN FRONT OF YOU FOR YOUR INITIAL REVIEW, LIKELY IN THE EARLY PART OF THE SECOND QUARTER, AND GET YOUR FEEDBACK AND YOUR IDEAS AND YOUR THOUGHTS AND YOUR CRITICISM, AND THEN FROM THAT WE'LL CONTINUE FORWARD AND HOPEFULLY LATER THIS YEAR WE'LL HAVE THE GENERAL PLAN AND THE ZONING REGULATIONS ALIGNED.

I WILL TELL YOU WE'RE TANK A LITTLE BIT OF A TWIST ON THIS.

WE ARE GOING DOWN THE PATH OF WHAT'S CALLED A UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.

AND FOR THE PLANNING GEEKS, WHAT THAT REALLY MEANS IS ALL YOUR DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS ARE IN ONE PLACE.

YOU DO NOT HAVE TO GO TO MULTIPLE CHAPTERS OF A MUNICIPAL CODE.

SO FOR YOURSELVES AS USERS AND FOR DEVELOPERS AND STAFF AND OTHERS, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO FIND ALL THE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS IN ONE PLACE RATHER THAN HAVING TO HUNT AND PECK SOMETIMES THROUGH A CONFUSING MUNICIPAL CODE, SO WE'RE ACTUALLY VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I THINK IT PRESENTS A GREAT CUSTOMER SERVICE OPPORTUNITY AND A PUBLIC SERVICE OPPORTUNITY.

I WANT TO REMIND THAT COMMISSION THAT WE DO HAVE A JOINT STUDY SESSION WITH THE CITY COUNCIL NEXT WEEK, JANUARY 20TH FROM 3:30 TO 5:00 P.M.

ON THE HOUSING ELEMENT UPDATE, AND THANK YOU ALL FOR GETTING BACK TO ME AND INDICATING THAT YOU WILL BE AVAILABLE.

WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD A GOOD CONVERSATION.

AND HOPEFULLY GET SOME GOOD FEEDBACK FROM YOU AS COMMISSIONERS AS WELL AS THE COUNCIL.

WE ARE BEGINNING THE WORK ON HIGHWAY 111 CORRIDOR SPECIFIC PLAN, AND WE WILL HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

SOMETHING THAT WE'LL BE BRINGING BACK TO YOU WEBSITES KIND OF A CARRYOVER FROM OUR GENERAL PLAN WORK.

WHEN THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED YOUR AMENDMENTS ON THE GENERAL PLAN AS WELL AS TOOK ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY FEEDBACK, THERE WAS AN AREA APPROXIMATELY 20 ACRES IN SOUTHWEST PART OF OUR CITY THAT THEY WANT TO US TAKE MORE OF A LOOK AT IN TERMS OF OF THE POTENTIAL LAND USE DESIGNATION AND JUST BECAUSE OF WORKLOAD AND COVID AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S BEEN LINGERING A LITTLE BIT, BUT LEILA AND I COMMITTED TO EACH OTHER THAT WE'RE GOING TO GE BRING IT BACK TO YOU HOPEFULLY IN THE RELATIVELY NEAR FUTURE.

AND THEN AS YOU ARE AWARE FROM THE JOINT STUDY SESSION IN NOVEMBER, THE INDIO MARKETPLACE PROJECT IS GOING TO REQUIRE SOME AMENDMENTS TO THE CENTRAL INDIO SPECIFIC PLAN.

AND SO WE'LL BE LOOKING FORWARD TO BRINGING THOSE TO THE COMMISSION SOME TIME

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LATER THIS YEAR.

AND THEN I WILL SAY THAT WE ARE GETTING LOTS OF INQUIRIES THAT MAY RESULT IN SEVERAL MORE POLICY QUESTIONS FOR YOURSELVES AND COUNCIL TO CONSIDER, PARTICULARLY AROUND EXISTING SPECIFIC PLANS AND EXISTING PROJECT MASTER PLANS THAT FOLKS WHO MAY BE INTERESTED IN SEEKING MODIFICATIONS, SO ALL IN ALL IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY BUSY YEAR.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU.

WE THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME AND ENERGY AND ATTENTION IN 2020.

AND WE LIKELY WILL WEAR YOU OUT IN 2021 BUT WE'LL BE IN IT TOGETHER.

SO THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

ANY COMMISSIONER COMMENTS? I KNOW I CUT YOU OFF.

[12. COMMISSIONER COMMENTS]

I MEANT TO HAVE YOU SAY A FEW WORDS AFTER OUR CHANGE, BUT I WAS SO FLUSTERED TO GET GOING.

>> WE'RE ALL TIRED NOW, SO IT'S LIKE TIME TO GO.

BUT I JUST HAVE A COUPLE THINGS.

FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK STAFF AND MY VICE CHAIR AND ALL THE COMMISSIONERS FOR ALL YOUR SUPPORT LAST YEAR.

IT WAS AN INSANE YEAR ON SO MANY LEVELS OF THE, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE 2021 IS NOT GOING TO BE ANY NEW TEAM IN ANY WAY THAT WE CAN DO TO KEEP THIS STUFF MOVING FORWARD.

I DO WANT TO THANK COUNCILMEMBER GLENN MILLER FOR REAPPOINTING ME TO ANOTHER FOUR-YEAR TERM.

HE DIDN'T HAVE TO BUT HE DID, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.

ALSO, I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

EVERY TIME I HEAR ABOUT DUTCH GROVES, I GET UPSET.

LA QUINTA HAS THEIRS, LINES AROUND THE BUILDING THREE FOUR TIMES.

WHERE IS OURS?

>> YOU KNOW, I WAS TRYING NOT TO BECAUSE I'M KEEPING TRACK OF THE MEETING, BUT I SAW ON OUR FACEBOOK LIVE THERE IS A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT DUTCH GROVES, AND, YES, LA QUINTA DID GET THEIRS IN, AND I ACTUALLY GOT SOME ON THE WAY TO DO THIS MEETING SO I CAN KEEP ALERT.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S AN UPDATE ON THAT.

I KNOW A LOT OF MY FRIENDS AND FAMILY ARE REALLY EXCITED TO SEE THAT GO UP.

I USED TO GET HIT UP AT LEAST ONCE A WEEK ABOUT IT.

>> MAY I UPDATE YOU? KEVIN AND LEILA? SO I HAVE BEEN PLANNING A HUSBAND ON THE DEVELOPERS OR THE ARCHITECTS TO REALLY PUSH THEM TO SUBMIT PLANS, AND AS OF RIGHT NOW, AT LEAST FOR PLANNING PERSPECTIVE, LANDSCAPE PLANS, EXTERIOR LIGHTING AND ANYTHING ELSE WE CAN CONTROL HAS BEEN APPROVED AND RELEASED.

THE PLANNING SET HAS COME IN FOR THEIR SECOND SUBMITTAL.

WE RELEASED IT HAD FOR THEIR CORRECTION BUT WE RECEIVED THEIR SECOND SUBMITTAL ABOUT A WEEK AND A HALF AGO.

SO THAT IS MY LATEST AND MAYBE IN THE NEXT PLANNING COMMISSION I WILL DEFINITELY UPDATE YOU AS TO HOPEFULLY RELEASE THEIR PLAN SET.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT IN TERMS OF THAT.

AND, YES, I AM ALSO VERY -- I ANTICIPATE THAT, TOO, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THEM TO GET ALL THE EXCITEMENT, SO CERTAINLY THERE'S PRESSURE ON OUR END FOR SURE.

>> THEN AS TO WHAT NIKKI SAID, THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION AMONGST THE CITY AND THE DUTCH BROTHERS FOR THE LOCATION OF THEIR UTILITIES BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO GO AND HAVE ON HIGHWAY 11 AND THEN THERE ARE TWO OPTIONS, SO THESE NEEDED TO BE WORKED OUT.

AND ALSO PROBABLY THERE WERE SOME FINANCING CHALLENGES THAT THEY NEEDED TO GO THROUGH.

SO THAT'S WHY NOW WE ARE AT THE PLAN CHECK, AS NIKKI SAID.

>> AND I WOULD JUST ADD ONE FINAL THING.

THEY HAD TOLD US THAT THEY HOPED TO BE UP AND RUNNING BY THIS SUMMER.

DIDN'T SAY WHEN IN THE SUMMER BUT BY THE SUMMER.

SO IT'S NOT THAT BIG OF A BUILDING, BUT FOR THE ALL THE REASONS AND NIKKI AND LEILA JUST STATED, I.

EVEN THE SMALLEST PROJECTS CAN SOMETIMES BE MORE COMPLEX, BUT I THINK THAT THEY'RE ON TRACK AND I THINK YOU GUYS, ALL THE PEOPLE HOLDING UP THEIR CUPS WILL BE ABLE TO GO LOCAL PRETTY SOON.

>> YEAH.

AND HOPEFULLY WE HAVE A GOOD TRAFFIC PLAN, AT LEAST FOR THE FIRST COUPLE OF WEEKS ONCE THAT GOES IN.

>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? GLORIA, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS?

>> CHAIR, IF I COULD, SINCE YOU BROUGHT UP THE TRAFFIC, WE ARE AWARE OF SOME OF THE TEMPORARY TRAFFIC ISSUES AT THE LA QUINTA OPENING, AND WE ARE INITIATING A DISCUSSION WITH THE DEVELOPER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE PROPER TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT IN PLACE WHEN THEY DO OPEN BECAUSE WE DID SEE KIND OF THE OVERWHELMING

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POSITIVE RESPONSE TO THE OPENING OF THE LA QUINTA ONE AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT BOTH FOLKS TRAVELING ON HIGHWAY 111 AND THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS, THAT WE'RE ALL WORKING TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S DONE SAFELY AND SMOOTHLY.

>> THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE CLOSE? AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO THANK COMMISSIONER FRANZ FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND A GREAT ENDING TO 2020.

I ALSO, IF EVELYN IS WATCHING, I HOPE SHE'S DOING BETTER.

AND PLEASE SEND YOUR ADDRESS SO I CAN SENDS YOU SOME GET-WELL CARE PACKAGE FOR EVELYN, BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH, COMMISSIONERS, AND KEVIN AND EVERYONE, STAFF, FOR BEARING WITH ME ON MY FIRST MEETING THAT I'M CHAIR TONIGHT.

KIND OF FELL ON MY FACE A COUPLE OF TIMES, BUT I THINK THE NEXT GO-AROUND I'LL BE GOOD TO GO.

I GREW UP HERE, SOY WANT TODAY A GOOD JOB.

I GREW UP IN INDIO ALL MY LIFE, SO I WANT TO DO A GOOD JOB AND NOT MESS THIS UP.

THANK YOU.

I GUESS AT THIS TIME IF NO ONE HAS ANY COMMENTS, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND ADJOURN.

>> JUST REAL QUICK, ZACH, GOOD LUCK.

CONGRATULATIONS.

>> CONGRATULATIONS.

>> CONGRATULATIONS, ZACH.

>> CAN YOU SEND ME A PICTURE OR SOMETHING IN AN EMAIL ONCE YOU'VE SETTLED DOWN A LITTLE BIT, BUT ENJOY.

>> THANK YOU ALL.

UNFORTUNATELY, I WON'T BE ABLE TO JOIN FOR WONDERFUL REASONS, AS YOU MAY KNOW.

MY WIFE AND I ARE EXPECTING A BABY GIRL IN THE COMING WEEKS.

I WILL LEAVE YOU IN THE MORE THAN CAPABLE HANDS OF MY COLLEAGUES, STEPHANE AND SHAW WHO WILL BE COVERING THE MEETINGS AND, OF COURSE, CITY ATTORNEY DIAZ WILL BE THERE AS WELL.

I APPRECIATE ALL THE WELL WISHES.

>> GET YOUR SLEEP WHILE YOU CAN, ZACH, BECAUSE AFTER THAT I DON'T THINK YOU EVER GET ANY SLEEP, EVEN WHEN THEY'RE ADULTS AND 18 YEARS OLD.

YOU'LL NEVER GET ANY SLEEP.

BUT CONGRATULATIONS.

>> THANK YOU.

THAT HAS BEEN THE COMMON REFRAIN AND ADVISE SO FAR.

>> ALL RIGHT.

SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND ADJOURN.

WE HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN, CORRECT?

>> I MOVE WE ADJOURN THE MEETING TO OUR NEXT SCHEDULED REGULAR MEETING ON JANUARY 27, 2020 AT 6:00 P.M.

VIRTUAL MEETING.

>> SECOND.

>> GOOD NIGHT.

>> GOOD NIGHT.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.