>> LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.
[1. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL]
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LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, MY NAME IS JACKIE LOPEZ.I'M THE CHAIRPERSON OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THE CITY OF INDIO.
I CALL THIS MEETING OF THE JANUARY 27TH TO ORDER.
AND IF I CAN PLEASE HAVE ROLL CALL.
CHAIRPERSON JACKIE LOPEZ >> PRESENT.
>> VICE CHAIRPERSON NICCO YSIANO.
>> COMMISSIONER CHRISTIAN RODRIGUEZ CEJA.
AT THIS TIME CAN I GET THE INTRODUCTION OF STAFF.
>>Y GOOD EVENING, MADAME CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
TONIGHT WE HAVE THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR KEVIN SNYDER, GUSTAVO GOMEZ ASSISTANT PLANNER, NIKKI GOMEZ, ASSISTANT PLANNER.
VANESSA CASTILLO ADMIN ASSISTANTS.
AND ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY STEPHANIE COWELL.
AND MYSELF LEILA NAMVAR, SENIOR PLANNER.
AND I BELIEVE JASON ANDERSON, OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT MANAGER IS HERE AS WELL.
THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, IF I CAN GET NICCO YSIANO TO GO AHEAD AND LEAD US.
PLEASE JOIN ME IN OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICAS AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
AND AT THIS TIME I GUESS WE GET A STATEMENT FROM OUR COMMISSION SECRETARY.
[4. STATEMENT FROM THE COMMISSION SECRETARY]
>> GENERAL RULES OF COURTESY FOR VIRTUAL MEETINGS ARE AS FOLLOWS.
PLEASE BE MINDFUL OF BACKGROUND NOISE WHEN JOINING THE VIRTUAL MEETING.
PARTICIPANTS SHOULD BE ALL LIVE STREAMING OF DEVICES TO AVOID PLAYBACK.
MEETING PARTICIPANTS MUST MUTE THEIR MICROPHONE TO KEEP THE BACKGROUND NOISE TO A MINIMUM.
AVOID ACTIVITIES THAT COULD CREATE ADDITIONAL NOISE.
POSITION YOUR CAMERA PROPERLY.
IF YOU CHOOSE TO USE A WEB CAM BE SURE IT IS IN A STABLE POSITION AND FOCUSED AT EYE LEVEL IF POSSIBLE.
IF YOU ARE SHARING CONTENT DURING THE MEETING BE SURE TO HAVE THE FILES AND LINKS READY BEFORE YOU BEGIN.
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO FOLLOW OLDER TESTIMONY MUST FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS ON AGENDA AND/OR ON PUBLIC COMMENT FOR AGENDA AND NON-JEANNE ITEMS. MEMBERS FROM THE PUBLIC WISHING TO PROVIDE ORAL TESTIMONY HAVE THREE MINUTES TO PROVIDE ORAL TESTIMONY.
NOW A STATEMENT FROM MY CITY ATTORNEY.
[5. STATEMENT FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY]
>> GOOD EVENING, CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ AND COMMISSIONERS.
MY NAME IS EXTENSIVE AND I AM FILLING IN FOR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY SACH RI HEINSELMAN TONIGHT THERE HAVE BEEN NO DIRECTIVES.
ISSUED TEMPORARILY HALTING LOCAL GOVERNMENT PROCESSING OF LANDS USE AND 3 DEVELOPMENT REVIEW APPLICATIONS AND CONSIDERATION OF POLICY ACTIONS, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENTS, ZONING CODE AMENDMENTS OR NEW OR SPECIFIC PLANS, THEREFORE THE CITY OF INDIO CONTINUES TO ACCEPT AND PROCESS APPLICATIONS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE STATE AND LOCAL REQUIREMENTS.
THE CITY OF INDIO IS FOLLOWING GOVERNOR NEWSOM'S EXECUTIVE ORDERS N-25-20 AND N-29-20 PERTAINING TO THE BROWN ACT.
THESE EXECUTIVE ORDERS ALLOW GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES TO CONDUCT MEETINGS BY ELECTRONIC MEANS AND FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO OBSERVE THE MEETING ELECTRONICALLY AS WELL AS PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT OR PUBLIC TESTIMONY TELEPHONICALLY OR OTHERWISE ELECTRONICALLY.
ACCORDINGLY, THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION ARE CURRENTLY CONDUCTING SCHEDULED MEETINGS IN A VIRTUAL MEETING FORMAT.
THE CITY OF INDIO HAS IMPLEMENTED TECHNOLOGY SOLUTIONS THAT ALLOW MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO OBSERVE AND OFFER PUBLIC COMMENT AS WELL AS PUBLIC TESTIMONY DURING PUBLIC HEARINGS AT SCHEDULED PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS.
THE CITY IS COMMITTED TO PROVIDING PUBLIC PARTICIPATION OF OPPORTUNITIES WHILE ALSO COMPLYING WITH REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PROCESSING OF LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW.
APPLICATIONS AND/OR CONSIDERATION OF POLICY ACTIONS.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ, YOU ARE MUTED AGAIN.
DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA?
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AND GIVEN IT IS THERE ARE NO MEETING MINUTES, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO ITEM 8.1
[8.1 Town and Country Tentative Parcel Map No. 38028 (TPM 20-11-408)]
WHICH IS THE TOWN & ENTRY TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP NUMBER 38028.MADAME CHAIR, LET ME SHARE MY SCREEN.
CAN EVERYONE SEE MY PRESENTATION? PERFECT.
SO GOOD EVENING, MADAME CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
MY NAME IS GUSTAVO GOMEZ, ASSISTANT PLANNER, AND BEFORE YOU IS THE TOWN & COUNTRY TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP NUMBER 38028.
THE PROJECT IS LOCATED SOUTH OF HIGHWAY 111 AND NORTH OF DR. CARREON.
THE ZONING FOR THIS, FOR THE PROJECT IS COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL AND THE GENERAL PLAN DESIGNATION IS MIXED USE, MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD.
JUST SOME BRIEF BACKGROUND ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
IT IS WITHIN AN ALREADY DEVELOPED SHOPPING CENTER.
IT'S THE TOWN & COUNTRY SHOPPING CENTER.
AND IT CURRENT HAS TWO EXISTING BUILDINGS ALREADY.
ONE OF THEM IS A PLACE OF WORSHIP THAT IS LOCATED TOWARDS THE BACK OF THE LOT.
AND THE OTHER IS A VACANT, WHAT USED TO BE A BANK FACING ALONG HIGHWAY 111.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO SUBDIVIDE 1.65 ACRES PARCEL INTO TWO PARCELS.
AS MENTIONED BEFORE, THE PROJECT IS LOCATED IN A ALREADY FULLY DEVELOPED SHOPPING CENTER, AND THE PURPOSE OF A TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP IS TO STRAIGHT THE TWO BUILDINGS TO OCCUPY ONE PARCEL EACH.
HERE IS THE BREAKDOWN OF THAT PARCEL SPLIT.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THE FIRST PARCEL FACING HIGHWAY 111 CONTAINS THE VACANT BANK, AND THEN SIMILARLY TOWARDS THE BACK IT'S THE PLACE OF WORSHIP.
THE PROJECT HAS BEEN -- STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE PROJECT AND HAS DETERMINED THAT THE PROJECT IS EXEMPT FROM THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT UNDER THE CLASS 15 EXEMPTION BECAUSE THE PROPOSED DIVISION IS WITHIN THE CITY OF DEVELOPED SHOPPING CENTER.
THE PROJECT IS ZONED COMMERCIAL, AND THE SUBDIVISION IS IN TWO PARCELS.
IT CONFORMS WITH THE GENERAL PLAN, AND THE ZONING, AND THERE ARE NO VARIANCES BEING REQUESTED OR EXCEPTIONS REQUIRED.
AND THE PARCEL HAS NOT BEEN INVOLVED IN -- HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN ANY DIVISIONS IN THE PAST TWO YEARS, AND THE SLOPE OF IT IS NOT GREATER THAN 20%.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE PROJECT HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY OUR CITY'S PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AND FIRE, AND NO ISSUES FOR CIRCULATION AND TRAFFIC CAME UP DURING THEIR REVIEW.
BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE PROJECT HAS BEEN CONDITIONED TO PROVIDE RECIPROCAL ACCESS AND PARKING.
WITH THAT, THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 1975, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF INDIO, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP NUMBER 38028, PROJECT NUMBER TPM 20-11-408 TO SUBDIVIDE AN EXISTING PARCEL OF LAND INTO TWO LEGAL LOTS SUBJECT TO THE FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL THEREIN AND DETERMINING THAT THE PROJECT IS CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT FROM THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT.
SECTION 15315 FOR MINOR LAND DIVISIONS.
WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES MY STAFF REPORT, AND STAFF AND THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMISSION MIGHT HAVE.
DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR GUSTAVO? FROM OUR COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS?
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I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM, GUSTAVO, I'M PRETTY SURE YOU SAID THIS BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE I HEARD YOU RIGHT.THERE'S RECIPROCAL PROTOCOL ACCESS AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TWO PARCELS.
WHEN THEY DO THE RECORDATION OF THE ACCESS OF THE FINAL MAP TO HAVE RECIPROCAL ACCESS AND PARKING.
>> I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I HEARD YOU RIGHT.
>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER FRANZ.
ANY OTHER FURTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING THAT THERE ARE NONE, IS THE APPLICANT OR ANY OF THE REPRESENTATIVES PRESENT THAT WISH TO ADD TO THE STAFF REPORT? YES, OKAY.
VANESSA, IS HE GOING TO CHIME IN?
>> HE SHOULD BE IN THERE AS A PANELIST.
I DID PROMOTE HIM, SO HE SHOULD BE ABLE TO UNMUTE AND SHARE HIS SCREEN IF NEED BE.
>> THANK YOU, MADAME CHAIRPERSON.
I GUESS MY CAMERA IS NOT WORKING.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE STAFF AND THE DIRECTOR FOR ALL THEIR HELP AND GREAT CUSTOMER SERVICE THEY PROVIDED OUR CLIENT AND THE ALTMAN GROUP, AND WE READ THROUGH THE STAFF REPORT AND WE CONCUR WITH ALL THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
CAN YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
>> RICH MALCOF PRINCIPLE WITH THE ALTMAN GROUP.
DO THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? OR DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THE ITEM?
>> THERE WERE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS RECEIVED.
SO SEEING THAT THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS, I GUESS WE CAN GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
IT IS CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND SO I GUESS AT THIS POINT DO I HAVE ANY CLOSING REMARKS FROM ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS?
I THINK THIS IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
IT'S A SUBDIVISION OF LAND FOR AN EXISTING SHOPPING CENTER.
IT MAY HOPEFULLY LEAD TO NEWER DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA, BUT I THINK THE APPROPRIATE THINGS ARE IN THE MAP, INCLUDING THE RECIPROCAL ACCESS AND PARKING.
SO I FEEL PRETTY GOOD ABOUT IT.
>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CEJA.
IF THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS, I CAN GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION.
I'LL TAKE A STAB AT THE MOTION.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 1975, THE RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN THE CITY OF INDIO, CALIFORNIA RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP NUMBER 38028TPM 20-11-408 TO SUBDIVIDE AN EXISTING PAR TELL OF LAND INTO TWO LEGAL LOTS SUBJECT TO THE FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS OF THE APPROVAL THEREIN, AND DETERMINING THAT THE PROJECT IS CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT FROM THE REQUIREMENTS OF CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT CEQA 15315 MINOR LAND DIVISIONS.
>> CAN WE GET ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
>> CHAIRPERSON JACQUELINE LOPEZ.
>> COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ CEJA.
[8.2 Church of the Red Door Environmental Assessment 20-05-548, Specific Plan 20-05-40, Tentative Parcel Map 20-03-403, Conditional Use Permit 20-10-1064 & Design Review 20-05-474:]
NEXT ITEM IS 8.2 WHICH IS THE CHURCH OF THE RED DOOR ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT[00:15:03]
20-05-548, SPECIFIC PLAN 20-05-40, TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 20-03-403, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND DESIGN REVIEW.AND GO AHEAD AND HAVE STAFF, GO AHEAD.
>> GOOD EVENING, MADAME CHAIRPERSON AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
AS YOU MENTIONED, THE PROJECT IS CHURCH AT THE RED DOOR.
IT INCLUDES FIVE DIFFERENT ENTITLEMENTS, ENVIRONMENTAL, SPECIFIC PLAN TO CREATE NEW ZONING, TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP TO CREATE APPROPRIATE PROPERTIES OR LOTS, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW A CHURCH AND DESIGN REVIEW FOR THE DESIGN AND CIRCULATION OF THE PROJECT.
AT THIS POINT STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, ASK FOR PUBLIC TESTIMONY BUT DO NOT TAKE ANY ACTION, JUST CONTINUE THE ITEM TO ITS REGULAR MEETING OF FEBRUARY 10.
THAT WAY THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE SUFFICIENT TIME TO ANALYZE THE PROJECT WITH RESPECT TO THE GENERAL PLAN 2040.
THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO GIVE A SHORT PRESENTATION.
AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE ALSO PUBLIC TESTIMONY.
I WILL CLOSE MY PRESENTATION SO IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO SHARE, THEY CAN.
DO WE HAVE ANY COMMISSIONER STATEMENTS FOR LEILA BEFORE WE HEAR FROM OUR APPLICANT? OKAY.
IF THE APPLICANT CAN GO AHEAD AND START YOUR REPORT, AND IF YOU CAN PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
MY NAME IS CHRIS HERMAN AND I'M AN ELDER AT CHURCH OF THE RED DOOR AND ALSO CHAIRMAN OF OUR PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT FAMILY.
THIS EVENING I WILL BE GIVING A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF OUR CHURCH AND THE PROCESS WE'VE BEEN WORKING TO GET HERE FOR A HEARING.
CHURCH OF THE RED DOOR WAS ORGANIZED ALMOST FOUR YEARS AGO BY OUR SENIOR PASTOR JEFF CRANFORD.
JEFF WAS A PGA PROFESSIONAL WHO WAS CALLED INTO MINISTRY TO REACH BEHIND THE WALLS OF THE COUNTRY CLUBS TO SERVE THE BIBLE.
HE ALSO SERVES AS PRESIDENT OF THE AN ORGANIZATION CALLED LINKS INTERNATIONAL.
IT'S NATIONWIDE AND HOLDS OVER 250 BIBLE STUDIES THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES AND ABROAD.
JEFF IS A GIFTED TEACHER AND HE HAS HELPED THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE FIND JOY IN THEIR CALLING AND PURPOSE IN LIFE.
THE CHURCH IS THE CULMINATION OF EFFORTS OF HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE WITH JEFF'S LEADERSHIP OVER THESE LAST 20 YEARS.
AND IT SIMPLY NEEDS A PERMANENT FACILITY TO HOLD SERVICES.
PRECOVID WE WERE MEETING IN THE UC RIVERSIDE CAMPUS IN PALM DESERT WITH A TOTAL ATTENDANCE IN THE MID-400S IN PEAK 16 SEASON.
IN SUMMER WE DROPPED TO ONE SERVICE WITH APPROXIMATELY 100 TO 150 IN ATTENDANCE.
SINCE THE PANDEMIC WE BROADCAST OUR MESSAGES RECORDED OVER AN ONLINE PLATFORM IN OUR OWN YOUTUBE CHANNEL.
OUR LIVE VIEWS FOR ONE SUNDAY SERVICE AT 9:30 ARE TYPICALLY BETWEEN 250 AND 275.
WE BEGAN THE PROCESS OF SEARCHING FOR A PROPERTY OVER THREE YEARS AGO.
THE AVENUE 49 AND JEFFERS SITE IS WHERE WE REALLY BELIEVE GOD HAS CALLED THIS CHURCH.
SEVERAL MEETINGS WERE HELD WITH CITY STAFF WITH EARLY SITE PLANS AND STUDIES TO ILLUSTRATE THE IDEA, AND AT THAT TIME THE GENERAL PLAN WAS BEING UPDATED.
1 CONNECTED NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IT ALLOWS FOR A PLACE OF WORSHIP AS A SECONDARY USE.
CHURCHES ARE GREAT NEIGHBORS FOR THE COMMUNITY.
FOR EXAMPLE, CHURCH AT THE RED DOOR FINANCIALLY SUPPORTS AND PROVIDE VOLUNTEER SUPPORT FOR THE FOLLOWING: COACHELLA VALLEY RESCUE MISSION, ANGEL TREE, FELLOWSHIP OF CHRISTIAN ATHLETES, MA HA MA'S ON US DESERT KINGS SCHOOL, LINKS PLAYERS INTERNATIONAL, YOUNG LIFE, ISRAEL COLLEGE OF THE BIBLE, SOS INTERNATIONAL, THE NARROW DOOR, REFUGE PREGNANCY CENTER AND GRIEF SHARE.
IN ADDITION, WE PROVIDE BENEVOLENCE ASSISTANCE TO COMMUNITIES MEMBERS ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS, SOME WHO DIDN'T EVEN ATTEND OUR CHURCH.
AND OUR YOUTH GROUP WHEN WE HAD A FACILITY AND YOUTH GROUP MEETING WERE HELPING SERVE MEALS AT MILES AVENUE PARK.
ADDITION WE REALLY BELIEVE THAT THIS CHURCH IS THE LEAST IMPACTFUL FOR ALL OF THE POTENTIAL USES TO THE PROPERTY.
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STAFF ADVISES TO DEVELOP A SPECIFIC PLAN FOR THE SITE BECAUSE WHILE THE GENERAL PLAN WAS BEING ADOPTED, THE NEW ZONING CODE COULD TAKE MUCH LONGER THAN THIS PROCESS.IN ADDITION STAFF ASKED TO US MOVE THE BUILDING AS CLOSE TO THE STREET AS POSSIBLE AND KEEP PARKING BEHIND THE BUILDING SO THERE WOULD BE A NICE LANDSCAPE BUFFER TO THE NEIGHBORS AND ALONG BOTH STREETS AND INVITE SEA OF ASPHALT PARKING LOT ON JEFFERSON AND 49TH.
WE MEET WITH YOU, THE PLANNING COMMISSION, ON FEBRUARY 12, 2020, TO RECEIVE INITIAL FEEDBACK ON THE SITE PLAN AND ON THE ARCHITECTURE.
THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT BUILDING MASSING AND THE HEIGHT OF THE CROSS, BOTH ITEMS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED IN THE SPECIFIC PLAN.
WE'VE HELD THREE COMMUNITY WORKSHOPS, WORKSHOP ON JULY 9 OF 2019 AND FEBRUARY 29TH OF 2020 AND WE DID A ZOOM MEETING SEPTEMBER 10TH, 2020.
THE FIRST SUBMITTAL OF OUR SPECIFIC PLAN WAS MADE MAY 15, 2020.
INITIAL PLAN CALLED FOR A TOTAL PRODUCT SIZE OF OVER 100,000 SQUARE FEET IN SICKS PHASE PEPS THE CITY STAFF ALSO REQUESTED ACUP AND WHEN WE MADE AN APPLICATION FOR THAT.
THE IN PUBLIC REVIEW PROCESS, WE MADE THE FOLLOWING CHANGES TO THE SPECIFIC PLAN BETWEEN MAY AND NOVEMBER.
WE REMOVED A DAY SCHOOL AND DAYCARE AS AN ALLOWED USE.
REMOVED -- WE MOVED THE AMPHITHEATER.
WE REVISED THE ALLOWABLE TEMPORARY USES.
WE ADD PROHIBITED USES SUCH AS A DISTRIBUTION OF FOOD THORN A NATURAL OR MAN MADE DISASTER.
MADE SIGNIFICANT TRAFFIC CHANGES, A LEFT TURN POCKET IN THE JEFFERSON MEDIAN SOUTH OF 49.
A LONGER TURN LANE ON THE JEFFERSON THAN THE ORGANIZING PLAN.
RELOCATION OF THE JEFFERSON ENTRY TO THE NORTH TO ACCOMMODATE THE LONGER TURN POCKET.
AND WIDENING OF AVENUE 49 TO PROVIDE A RIGHT TURN LANE INTO THE PROJECT.
THE OVERALL PROJECT SHIES HAS BEEN REDUCED FROM 112,917 -- 1918 SQUARE FEET TO 45,141 SQUARE FEET AND ELIMINATED TWO BUILDINGS.
THE SANCTUARY IS 25 NOW 332 SQUARE FEET.
THE CHILDREN'S MINISTRY AREA IS 9,399 FEET.
THE ADULT MEETING ROOMS ARE 7,277 SQUARE FEET.
AND OFFICES ARE 3,133 SQUARE FEET.
THE OVERALL SITE IS ONLY 10% DEVELOPED.
IT'S 90% OPEN SPACE AT FULL BUILD-OUT.
THERE WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 580 SEATS IN PHASE 1 AND APPROXIMATELY 958 AT FULL BUILD-OUT.
WE HAVE CONSISTENTLY WORKED WITH STAFF PROVIDING TIMELY RESPONSES TO ALL OF THEIR REQUESTS, AND THEN RESUBMITTE SPECIFIC PLAN ON NOVEMBER 11, 2020.
ON JUST MONDAY THIS WEEK WE MET AGAIN WITH STAFF FOR OVER TWO HOURS TO MAKE REFINEMENTS TO THE SPECIFIC PLAN PRIOR TO PRESENTING TO IT TO YOU FOR FINAL ACTION AT THE FEBRUARY 10TH PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
TONIGHT WE HAVE OUR ARCHITECT WHO IS GOING TO COME AND ON DON'T OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT FAIRLY SHORT AND SWEET, AND WE HAVE OUR OTHER CONSULTANTS AND TRAFFIC ENGINEERS AT THE FEBRUARY 12TH MEETING TO ADDRESS ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS.
WE WILL BE RIGHT BACK TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
WE'VE BEEN PRAYING FOR AND YOU FOR THIS PROJECT, THAT YOU SEE IT IN A POSITIVE LIGHT AS WE DO AND APPROVE IT IN TWO WEEKS WHEN THE CITY STAFF HAS COMPLETED ITS REVIEW AND REPORT.
I GUESS OUR HOUSEKEEPING MATTER REALLY QUICK, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
HE'S GOING TO HAVE SCREEN SHARING CAPABILITY.
IT'S JUST A BEGINNING VIDEO TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF SITE CONTEXT.
>> GOOD EVENING, MADAME COMMISSIONER AND ALL THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS.
I'M WITH ARCHITECTS IN SAN DIEGO.
WE SPECIALIZE IN RELIGIOUS FACILITIES, HAVE DONE ABOUT 250 OF THEM OVER THE LAST 35 YEARS.
FIRST VIDEO IS JUST AN OVERVIEW OF THE SITE TO MAKE YOU FAMILIAR WITH IT.
THE SECOND VIDEO IS THE DESIGN OF THE PROJECT.
THIS IS A VIEW FROM JEFFERSON AND AVENUE 49.
THERE IS AN EXISTING HOUSE ON THE PROPERTY, A MODERN PIECE OF ARCHITECTURE DESIGNED BY ARCHITECT WALTER WHITE WHICH WILL REMAIN.
YOU CAN SEE IT'S UP ON A BERM.
AND THERE'S AN EXISTING DRIVE, ACCESS DRIVE THAT WILL ALSO REMAIN.
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THE SECOND VIDEO THIS IS AN OVERVIEW OF THE ENTIRE PROJECT.THIS IS A VIEW LOOKING UP, LOOKING NORTH ON JEFFERSON, AND THIS IS THE COMPLETE BUILD OUT OF THE PROJECT.
YOU CAN SEE IT'S SET BACK FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON THE REAR SIDE AND ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
AND THIS IS AGAIN THE COMPLETE PHASE, SO THIS IS PHASE 1 THAT HAS A PORTION OF THE LONG BUILDING INCLUDED IN PHASE 1.
AND PHASE 4 ADDS ONTO THE TALLER BUILDING.
THE AVERAGE SETBACK ALONG JEFFERSON IS 64 FEET -- 62 FEET, SORRY, WITH THE SANCTUARY PORTION ENCROACHING DIAGONAL INTO THAT AREA.
THE BUILDING IS REALLY IN THE ARCHITECTURAL FLAVOR OF MODERN AREA, REFLECTING A LOT OF THE STUFF THAT YOU FIND IN THE VALLEY, AND PEEWEE PROPOSE A SMALL MONUMENT SIGN ON BOTH ENTRANCES THAT YOU SAW AS WE FLEW BY, BOTH STREET ENTRANCES, AND THERE'S HAD A LOT OF COVERED OUTDOOR GATHERING AREAS AND WALKWAYS.
EACH OF THE PARKING LOT HAS A ROUNDABOUT SO PEOPLE PARKING CAN ORBIT THROUGH THE PARKING LOT.
THE BUILDING IS VERY TRANSPARENT FROM JEFFERSON AND THROUGH THE SITE, SO THERE'S SOME LARGE OUTDOOR AREAS.
THIS HAPPENS TO BE THE CHILDREN'S AREA.
AND COVERED WALKWAYS WHEN YOU LEAVE YOUR CAR.
THERE'S A -- SEPARATES THE PARKING FROM THE BUILDING WITH BRIDGES THAT CROSS OVER THAT.
THE MAIN WORSHIP CENTER ISN'T A LARGER 14 VOLUME.
AND THERE ARE SOME LARGER OUTDOOR AREAS BEHIND THE PANELS ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
THE BUILDING ARCHITECTURE HAS CHANGED FROM WHEN YOU LAST HAVE SEEN IT.
AS CHRIS MENTIONED, THE SIZE WAS REDUCED, SQUARE FOOTAGE WAS REDUCED.
YOU HAD ASKED US PREVIOUSLY ABOUT THE ELEVATION BEING BROKE UP MORE, WHICH WE HAVE INTRODUCED WITH THE STOPPING AND STARTING OF THE PANELS, THE CHANGE TO THE CORE TEN, THE BLOCK AND THEN PLASTER.
THE BUILDING YOU CAN SEE FROM AVENUE 49 YOU CAN ENTER FROM THERE OR FROM THE CORNER AND IT'S TRANSPARENT FROM THAT SIDE.
AND THERE IS A CROSS TOWER THAT WAS 70 FEET TALL, AND WE HAVE REDUCED IT TO 50 FEET TALL PER YOUR COMMENTS FROM THE LAST REVIEW WITH YOU.
THE ALONG BUILDING THAT PARALLELS JEFFERSON CONTINUES FROM ONE SIDE OF THE BUILDING TO THE OTHER SIDE.
BUT YOU CAN SEE THE TRANSPARENCY THROUGH THE GLASS OF THE BUILDING THROUGH THE OPENINGS IN THE BUILDING, THE WELLS, A HOLE IN THE UNITS.
THE OVERALL HEIGHT ON THE LONG BUILDING HERE IS 14 FEET.
20 FEET TO THE TOP OF THE MECHANICAL WELLS.
AND 31 FEET TO THE TOP OF THE TALLER BUILDING.
THAT'S THE CONCLUSION OF WHAT WE HAD TO PRESENT TONIGHT.
WE WANT TO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME.
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SO NOW DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? WE DO HAVE SOME PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THE ITEM.
>> THERE WERE WRITTEN COMMENTS RECEIVED FOR ITEM 8.2.
THOSE COMMENTS HAVE BEEN DISTRIBUTED TO THE COMMISSIONERS AND POSTED ONLINE AND MADE PART OF THE AGENDA PACKET AN RECORD FOR THIS MEETING.
I ALSO HAVE FOUR OTHERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
I WILL START OFF BY BRINGING LIZ STANKISS AND ERIC AND TERESA STANKISS.
THEY ARE ALL CALLING IN FROM ONE LINE BUT THEY WOULD ALL LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT.
I KNOW ALL THREE OF YOU ARE TOGETHER AND WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES EACH TO MAKE THAT COMMENT.
MY NAME IS LIZ STAND STANKISS AND I AM A WIFE AND A MOTHER AND AN INDIO RESIDENT.
I ACTUALLY LIVE JUST UP THE BLOCK ON 48 AND JEFFERSON IN THE BRIDGE DEVELOPMENT.
I AM A DESERT NATIVE, GROWING UP HERE, AND WITH MY FAMILY I DRUG MY HUSBAND DOWN HERE AND I HAVE JUST SEEN HOW THE COMMUNITY IN INDIO HAS GROWN TO BE A REALLY ATTRACTIVE PLACE TO LIVE.
IN FACT, WE MOVED HERE JUST TWO YEARS AGO FROM LA QUINTA EVEN, SO I CAN'T THINK OF A BETTER USE OF THIS PROPERTY THAN CHURCH OF THE RED DOOR.
WHILE I AM A MEMBER OF CHURCH AT THE RED DOOR I'M ALSO A COMMUNITY MEMBER IN INDIO.
I'M GOING TO BE RAISING MY TWO LITTLE GIRLS HERE, AND I CAN'T THINK OF A BETTER PLACE TO WALK THEM DOWN THE STREET TO CHURCH ON SUNDAY OR WHATEVER OTHER DATE OF WEEK WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO USE IT.
REALLY NOT BEING ABLE TO HAVE A HOME.
SO FROM A PERSONAL STANDPOINT, THAT WOULD BE SO INCREDIBLY -- SUCH AN INCREDIBLE BLESSING REALLY FOR US PERSONALLY AND THEN FOR THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.
I KNOW THEY'VE PUT A LOT OF HARD WORK INTO THEM TO MAKE IT SHINE.
AND ONE OF MY FAVORITE THINGS ABOUT THE PROPERTY, IF I CAN SHARE THAT, IS THEY'RE RETAINING THAT HISTORICAL VALUE WITH THAT HOME THAT'S ALREADY ON THERE THAT ALL OF US PASSING BY CAN LOOK AT AND GO, WOW, THAT'S REALLY NEAT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE MY SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT BEING A VERY LOCAL COMMUNITY MEMBER, AND I HAVE A COUPLE NEIGHBOR FRIENDS WHO LIVE IN RINCON.
THEY COULDN'T JOIN US TONIGHT, ABOUT IT DO KNOW THAT THEY ALSO OFFER SUPPORT AND THEY'RE EXCITED TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THIS PROPERTY.
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, AND DO YOU WANT ME TO PASS IT OFF TO SOMEBODY OR DO YOU HAVE AN OFFICIAL WAY TO HAND IT OFF?
>> YOU CAN PASS IT OFF TO ERIC IF HE'D LIKE TO JOIN US, AND I WILL START THAT.
>> IT'S ALMOST BEDTIME FOR THE CHILDREN.
MY NAME IS ERIC STANKISS, THE HUSBAND OF LIZ WHO JUST SPOKE.
WE LIVE RIGHT UP THE STREET, THE BRIDGE ON JEFFERSON.
AND I JUST WANTED TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT FOR THIS PROJECT.
IT WOULD BE NICE, THE CHURCH OF THE RED DOOR AND ALL THAT THEY SUPPORT IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND I REALLY, AFTER REVIEWING THE PLANS AND LOOKING AT THE OPENNESS OF THE PROJECT AND THE FACT THAT I HEARD LIZ SAY THAT THEY HAD A HISTORICAL BUILDING THAT THEY WERE GOING TO USE THAT HAS UNIQUE ARCHITECTURE, I REALLY LIKE THAT ASPECT OF IT.
AND I JUST HOPE THAT YOU GIVE IT YOUR GREATEST SUPPORT.
IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE SOMETHING CLOSE BY, LITERALLY RIGHT UP THE STREET TO GATHER AS A COMMUNITY.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LISTENING TO APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
I HAVE MY -- TERESA WILL SPEAK NOW.
SO MY NAME IS TERESA STANKISS AND I'M A GRANDMOTHER OF TWO BEAUTIFUL LITTLE GRANDDAUGHTERS.
AND I LIVE IN THE BRIDGE AREA, TOO, ON 48TH AND JEFFERSON, SO IT WOULD BE -- THE CHURCH OF THE RED DOOR WOULD LITERALLY BE A BLOCK AWAY, WHICH REALLY AND IT'S ME BECAUSE IT WOULD BE I.
WONDERFUL TO HAVE A COMMUNITY CHURCH IN THE AREA THAT SUPPORTS SO MANY
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WONDERFUL PROJECTS.WE HAVE A LOT OF SHOPPING CENTERS IN THE AREA TO GO TO, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A COMMUNITY CHURCH NEARBY.
SO I'M HOPING THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION PASS THIS PROJECT AND WE CAN START BUILDING.
>> WE HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC COMMENT FROM DONALD WILLIAMS. DONALD, CAN YOU HEAR ME?
>> CAN YOU HEAR US? DONALD, ARE YOU WITH US? CAN YOU HEAR ME? HI, DONALD.
ARE YOU WITH US? I AM GOING TO MOVE DONALD BACK TO AN ATTENDEE AND BRING OVER ONE MORE PUBLIC COMMENT.
ARE YOU WITH US? SEEMS WE'RE HAVING SOME TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES.
I'VE BEEN ATTENDING CHURCH AT THE RED DOOR FOR ALMOST FOUR YEARS AND I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF BUILDING OUR CHURCH ON THE CORNERS OF JEFFERSON AND 49TH.
AND I DON'T BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ANY SIGNIFICANT EFFECTS ON THE TRAFFIC ENTRANCE ON JEFFERSON AND AN ENTRANCE ON 49TH.
WE WILL BE HAVING SUNDAY SERVICES, AND GO BETWEEN AND 8 AND BUT OF THAT EACH SERVICE IS ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF OH THREE SERVICES IN THAT FOUR-HOUR PERIOD THERE WILL NOT BE ANY TRAFFIC THERE AT ALL.
THEN ANOTHER ISSUE I KNOW THAT I'VE HEARD WHEN WE'VE HELD OUR MEETINGS IS WHEN THEY HAVE THE COACHELLA FEST AND STAGECOACH ARE WE GOING TO ALLOW PARKING IN THE PARKING LOT AND WE WILL NOT.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE BUILDING IN PARKING LOT THAT YOU HAVE SEEN IS VERY WELL DESIGNED.
THE LANDSCAPING WILL BE MAINTENANCED VERY NICELY.
IT BE NOT BE AN EYE SORE AT ALL.
AND I STRONGLY FEEL THIS IS THE BEST USE FOR THAT PROPERTY.
SO WE WILL BE VERY RESPECTFUL AND VERY CARING OF OUR NEIGHBORS, AND I THANK YOU FOR THE TIME AND GOD BLESS YOU ALL.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO TRY DONALD WILLIAMS ONCE MORE?
ARE YOU WITH US? DONALD, CAN YOU HEAR ME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? I HAVE REACHED OUT TO DONALD THROUGH MESSENGER AS WELL AS ON HERE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW WE PROCEED, STEPHANIE.
>> IS IT SHOWING THAT DONALD IS ACTUALLY IN THE MEETING ROOM WITH US RIGHT NOW?
HE HAS BEEN PROMOTED TO PANELIST.
I SENT HIM A CHAT AND HAVE TRIED TO GET HIS ATTENTION.
I'M NOT SURE IF HE'S JUST UNABLE TO HEAR 19 US.
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>> PERHAPS HE MAY HAVE STEPPED AWAY.
IS HE THE LAST SPEAKER THAT YOU HAVE ON THE LIST?
>> THEN I'M NOT SURE WHAT OTHER OPTION THERE IS, BUT IF IT IS THE INTENT FOR THE COMMISSION TO CONTINUE THIS PUBLIC HEARING TO FEBRUARY 10TH, HE WILL HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY AT THAT TIME TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT.
>> SO IF WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THIS PUBLIC HEARING OPEN UNTIL THE NEXT -- TO THE NEXT MEETING.
>> IF THAT IS THE INTENT OF THE COMMISSION, THEN, YES.
SO I GUESS AT THIS TIME IF THERE'S ANY CLOSING REMARKS FROM THE APPLICANT, AND THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS.
OR DO WE GO AHEAD AND START QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS.
>> WE DON'T HAVE ANY CLOSING COMMENTS.
IF YOU WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS OR WHATEVER, WE'RE GOOD.
SO IF ANY OF OUR COMMISSIONERS WANT TO GO AHEAD AND START WITH ANY QUESTIONS.
>> SO WE DID -- WHAT? -- JUST A DESIGN REVIEW OR A CONSULTATION EARLIER LAST YEAR IN 2020?
>> I GUESS WE CAN CALL IT, YES, IT WAS A PRE-APPLICATION MEETING I THINK IS WHAT WE CALLED IT, A PRE-DESIGN MEETING THE VERY FIRST TIME WE MET.
>> I APPRECIATE IT SINCE YOU TOOK CLOSE ATTENTION TO SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE BY THE COMMISSION AT THAT TIME AND ADJUSTED YOUR PLANS ACCORDINGLY, SO LOOK FORWARD TO DISCUSSING THIS MORE ON FEBRUARY 10TH.
>> COMMISSIONER CEJA RODRIGUEZ -- RODRIQUEZ CEJA, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
2 INTO COMMENTARY, BUT IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, CLARIFYING QUESTIONS OF THE INFORMATION PRESENTED TONIGHT.
COMMENTARY IS BETTER FOR DELIBERATION AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING HAS FORMALLY CLOSED, SO I JUST WANT TO CAUTION THE COMMISSIONERS NOT PROVIDING COMMENTARY OR ANYTHING IN ANY WAY MIGHT INDICATE HOW YOU MIGHT VOTE ON THIS.
I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO ASK QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED THIS EVENING BUT PROBABLY NO FURTHER THAN THAT.
SO ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE I ASK A QUESTION?
THIS IS I GUESS FOR STAFF MORE THAN FOR THE APPLICANT.
SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE ON THE CORNER, IT'S GONE FROM 70 FEET TO 50 FEET, WHICH IS A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THE BUILDINGS ARE ONLY 14 AT ONE POINT AND 20 FEET AT ANOTHER POINT? IS THAT CORRECT? SO THERE'S STILL A 30-FOOT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE AND THE TALLEST POINT OF THE BUILDINGS? OR DID I MISINTERPRET SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS? COMMISSIONER FRANZ, YES, YOU ARE RIGHT.
THERE'S STILL A SIGNIFICANT HEIGHT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT MONUMENT SIGN AND THE BUILDING HEIGHT, BUT IT'S BEEN REDUCED BY THE APPLICANT.
>> AND I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.
I THINK DURING THE MEETING THAT WE HAD BEFORE, WE TALKED ABOUT LIMITING THE ACCESS TO AVENUE 49.
DID I ALSO HEAR CORRECTLY THAT THERE'S A PLAN TO WIDEN AVENUE 49 NOW IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THE TRAFFIC?
SO WIDEN MEANS BASICALLY THEY'RE GOING TO CREATE A TURN POCKET TO DO A LEFT TURN INTO -- TO DO A TURN INTO THE PROPERTY, SO THEY WILL ADD A TURN POCKET JUST IN FRONT OF THEIR PROJECT.
2 THIS IS A LEFT-HAND TURN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TRAVELING WEST ON 49 IN ORDER TO TURN INTO THE PROPERTY, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> IT'S RIGHT TURN COMING OFF OF JEFFERSON, RIGHT AND ANOTHER RIGHT INTO THE PROPERTY.
AND SO ONLY THAT LITTLE PORTION WOULD BE WIDENED, NOT ANYTHING FURTHER THAN THAT ON AVENUE 49.
>> I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I HAD A CLARIFICATION ON THAT P.
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THOSE ARE ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE RIGHT NOW, CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ.>> THANK YOU, CHAIRPERSON FRANZ.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE I ASK A QUESTION?
>> CHAIR, I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON COMMISSIONER FRANZ'S QUESTION BECAUSE I KNOW WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE PROPOSAL ABOUT A YEAR AGO, WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE LARGE FEATURE ON THE CORNER.
IT DOES SOUND LIKE THAT BEEN REDUCED.
CURIOUS WITH STAFF, I NOTICED THE SPECIFIC PLAN, THEY'RE PROPOSING THEIR OWN DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, BUT IF IT'S THE CURRENT ZONING DESIGNATION OR ONE THAT WOULD BE UPDATED TO ZONING DESIGNATION THAT COMPLIES WITH OUR NEW GENERAL PLAN, WHAT WOULD BE THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT?
>> SO THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
WITHIN A RESIDENTIAL AREA HUMAN SCALE IS MOST LIKELY WILL BE THE MASS OR THE SCALE, SO I DON'T WANT TO GO INTO A LOT OF DETAILS FOR TONIGHT, BUT STAFF IS AWARE OF THE HEIGHT.
SO WE MAY HAVE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT WE ARE AWARE OF THE HEIGHT.
AND I THINK THE REASON, MAYBE PART OF THE REASON THAT KEEPS COMING UP AT LEAST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, TOO, IS WORRIE SETTING A PRECEDENT IF WE ALLOW ONE FACILITY TO DO IT, WE ESSENTIALLY ALLOW ALL BECAUSE WE WON'T ABLE TO DISCRIMINATE AGAINST.
THAT'S MY COMMENT AND WHY I ASKED THAT QUESTION.
THAT'S ALL I HAD, CHAIRPERSON.
COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ CEJA, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE I START?
>> SO MY QUESTION IS FOR THE APPLICANT.
AND I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE BECAUSE OF THE WAY, HOW THAT AREA ZONED.
HAVE YOU HAD A STUDY REGARDING THE HIGHEST AND THE BEST USE OF THAT LAND? HAS THERE BEEN ANY KIND OF ANALYSIS THAT YOU'VE DONE?
>> ARE YOU ASKING ME IF I'VE DONE A MARKET STUDY ON THE REAL ESTATE VALUE TO DETERMINE WHAT THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF THE PROPERTY IS?
OR IF YOU HAVE WORKED WITH STAFF ON THAT.
>> WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE PROJECT -- THAT THE LAND HAS A SPECIFIC DESIGNATION THAT ALLOWS FOR 20 UNITS PER ACRE.
WE DON'T -- WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT THIS AS A MARKET VALUE PROPOSITION FOR INVESTMENT PURPOSES, SO WE WOULD NOT HAVE DONE ANY KIND OF RESEARCH.
>> SO THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY TYPE OF ANALYSIS IN REGARDS TO IF THAT IS THE BEST USE FOR THE LAND.
AND I WAS JUST WONDERING IF WE CAN WORK WITH STAFF JUST TO BE SURE MOVING FORWARD.
>> I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR YOU, BUT LET STAFF DEAL WITH THAT.
>> I WILL JUST ASK A CLARIFICATION QUESTION FROM THE CHAIRPERSON.
SO YOU WOULD LIKE THE APPLICANT TO WORK WITH STAFF TO PROVIDE US WITH SOME TYPE OF DOCUMENT OR A STUDY THAT SHOWS WHAT ARE THE HIGHEST AND BEST USES FOR THIS PROPERTY.
>> WE CAN TALK TO THE APPLICANT OFFLINE REGARDING THAT.
>> JACKIE, JUST ONE MORE QUESTION, IF YOU DON'T MIND, CHAIRMAN LOPEZ.
JUST FOR STAFF, I KNOW YOU HAVE MEETINGS COMING UP, AND I HOPE THAT -- I'M SURE THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING IS TRAFFIC FLOW, AND I JUST WANT TO ASK THAT THAT BE SOMETHING THAT IS, YOU KNOW, VERY CAREFULLY LOOKED AT, ESPECIALLY FOR AVENUE 49.
SO JUST -- I'M ASSUMING THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, CORRECT?
THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A TRAFFIC STUDY.
THE FIRST ONE WAS BASED ON THE LARGER ATTENDEES AND LARGER SEATS.
THEY REDUCED THAT, SO THEY SUBMITTED A NEW TRAFFIC STUDY, A REVISED TRAFFIC STUDY BASED ON THAT REDUCED NUMBER OF SEATS AND IT HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER CONSULTANT.
SO WHEN WE COME BACK BEFORE YOU, WE HAVE INFORMATION REGARDING TRAFFIC ON AVENUE 49 AS WELL.
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THANK YOU.>> IF I CAN ADD -- CAN I ADJUST TO THAT COMMENT? WE DID ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC QUEUING ANALYSIS AFTER THE FIRST PUBLIC REVIEW, SO WE WERE VERY PREPARED AND FEEL CONFIDENT ABOUT THE TRAFFIC STUDY.
>> I COULD ADD A COMMENT, PLEASE.
COMMISSIONER FRANZ, OUR TRAFFIC CONSULTANT WILL BE AT THE NEXT MEETING, SO YOU CAN ASK ANY QUESTIONS OF HIM ON THE TRAFFIC FLOOR THE LEVEL SERVICE OR ABOUT THE TURN POCKET AND HE'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.
SO I GUESS AT THIS TIME WE'RE GOING TO AND KEEP THE HEARING OPEN.
COMMISSIONER FRANZ, CAN YOU HELP ME OUT HERE.
SO WE JUST GO AHEAD AND GO INTO -- >> I THINK WE JUST NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THE ITEM.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THE ITEM TO FEBRUARY 10TH.
JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
IF YOU COULD JUST PROPOSE -- A PROPOSED MOTION COULD BE DO NOT THE PUBLIC HEARING TO YOUR REGULAR MEETING OF FEBRUARY 10, 2021.
SO I GUESS WE GO AHEAD AND WE NEED TO DO A ROLL CALL ON THIS.
>> COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ CEJA.
SO THE NEXT IS OUR STUDY SESSION ITEM 9.1, THE MAVERIK GAS STATION, AND,
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NIKKI.LET ME SHARE MY SCREEN WITH YOU.
GOOD EVENING, MADAME CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND BEFORE YOU TONIGHT THE MAVERIK GAS STATION FOR A PUBLIC PROJECT CONSULTATION AND THIS IS TO CONSIDER -- GET YOUR FEEDBACK FOR THE ARCHITECTURE SITE PLAN CIRCULATION AND SIGNAGE FOR THIS PROPOSED PROJECT.
SO THE PROPOSED PROJECT IS PROPOSED TO THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF GOLF CENTER PARKWAY AND AVENUE 45 IN THE 8.62-ACRE VACANT LOT.
IT IS CURRENTLY ZONED AS A COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL WITH A GENERAL PLAN DESIGNATION OF WORKPLACE EMPLOYMENT DISTRICT.
WE ARE AWARE THAT THERE IS AN INCONSISTENCY BETWEEN THE ZONING AND GENERAL PLAN DESIGNATION THAT WILL BE ADDRESSED AND CLARIFIED MOVING FORWARD WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY.
SO I GUESS I JUST WANTED TO SHARE, AND I DO APPRECIATE OUR COMMISSIONER CEJA WITH HIS QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SIGN ORIENTATION.
I JUST WANT TO WORK THROUGH WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION THE ITERATIONS OF THE SIGN PROGRESSION WE'VE WORKED WITH THE APPLICANT.
SO INITIALLY BOTH OF THESE SITE PLANS CAME BEFORE US FOR CONSIDERATION FROM THE APPLICANT, AND THIS WAS ACTUALLY ALSO REVIEWED AS THEY WENT BEFORE OUR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE, WHICH WAS REVIEWED WITH INTERNAL STAFF AS WELL AS OTHER OUTSIDE AGENCIES.
AND SO THEY ARE TO PROPOSE ALSO TO PARCELIZE THIS VACANT LOT.
I KIND OF WANTED TO SHOW THEM CONSIDERING ALL THE OTHER FEEDBACK THAT THEY GOT FROM OUR DEPARTMENT, ESPECIALLY FROM OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.
AND I JUST WANTED TO PRESENT OVER WHAT THE SITE PLAN IS COMING BEFORE YOU.
AND SO THIS WOULD BE THE THIRD ITERATION OF THAT.
AND SO IN DEFINITELY KEEPING THE SUGGESTIONS FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE BUILDING ABUTTING THAT CORNER AREA THAT WAS PUSHED THEN TO THE SIDE, WHICH IS THE 5,000 SQUARE FOOT, ABOUT 5,000 SQUARE FOOT CONVENIENCE STORE, AND THEN THE CANOPIES THAT MOVED INWARD INTO THE PARCEL, AND LIMITING THE ACCESS POINT
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FROM GOLF CENTER, WHICH THEN BECAME ONE INSTEAD OF TWO ACCESSES FROM GOLF CENTER.AVENUE 45, THERE IS TWO ACCESSES, BUT ONE HAS TO BE A SHARED ACCESS WITH THE OTHER PARCELS THAT BE BE PROPOSED AT A FUTURE DATE.
IT IS COMPRISED OF 39 PARKING SPACES AND THAT INCLUDES ALL OF THE ADA PARKING.
IT WILL BE TEN PUMPS FOR CARS AND THEN TEN PUMPS IS PROPOSED FOR TRUCKS.
IT WILL ALSO INCLUDE A TAX SCALE.
IT'S A SELF-SERVING SCALE AT THE NORTH END OF THE PARCEL HERE.
THE ENCLOSURE IS ABUTTING THE GOLF CENTER PARKWAY AND, OF COURSE, THE CONVENIENCE STORE RIGHT HERE AT THE CORNER, BOTH THE CORNER OF GOLF CENTER AND AVENUE 45.
THE FLOOR PLAN CONSISTS OF THE RETAIL FLOOR, RESTROOMS, OFFICES, AND THE COOLERS RIGHT BACK HERE, BEVERAGE COOLER HERE AND DELIVERY KEEPING BACK HERE.
IT WILL ALSO INCORPORATE COFFEE PREP AND A DELI PREP, I BELIEVE, AT THIS PORTION RIGHT HERE.
AND SO THE ELEVATIONS BEFORE YOU IS THEIR TYPICAL, THE MAVERIK STYLE.
IT IS WITH BAND SITING WITH COBBLESTONE AND METAL AWNINGS.
THIS WOULD BE THE FRONT PORTION, OF COURSE, RIGHT AS IT -- FROM THE PARKING AREA.
SIMILARLY, THIS WOULD BE THE REAR PORTION WHICH WILL BE KIND OF AT THE CORNER OF GOLF CENTER AND AVENUE 45.
AND JUST FOR SOME RENDERINGS JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE TYPE OF ARCHITECTURE, IT'S MORE RUSTIC TYPE OF ARCHITECTURE THAT IS BEING PROPOSED.
AND GOLF COURSE, INCLUDING IN THIS PRESENTATION, IS THE SIGNAGE.
THEY WILL BE -- IT CONSISTS OF THE WALL SIGNS, THE CANOPY SIGNS TO BE INCLUDED IN THE PUMP STATION, A MONUMENT SIGN AND A MULTI-FREEWAY TENANT SIGN.
AND I'LL JUST WALK RIGHT THROUGH THAT.
SO THE TYPICAL WALL SIGN THAT WILL BE INCORPORATED IN ALL THE ELEVATIONS OF THE BUILDING PROPOSED, WHICH IS TYPICAL OF WHAT WE SEE IN MOST CONVENIENCE 27 STORES, AND THEY WILL ALSO BE PROPOSING ONE OR THE OTHER OF 50-FOOT FREEWAY SIGN, AND THEN A 8-FOOT MONUMENT SIGN AND THERE WOULD BE A 22 FEET CAT SCALE SIGN WHICH IS GOING TO BE IN THE INTERIOR PORTION OF THE SITE.
AND SO I KNOW IT'S REFERENCED AND ALSO TO ADDRESS THE QUESTION FROM COMMISSIONER CEJA.
I'M SURE YOU THE PLANNING COMMISSIONER IS AWARE OF THE APPROVED GAS STATION FROM ACROSS THE STREET, WHICH IS THE 7-ELEVEN.
AND THAT WAS LIMITED, APPROVED LIMITED TO ONE MONUMENT SIGN IT SIX FEET WHEN IT CAME BEFORE YOU FOR APPROVAL.
I HAVE THE APPLICANT ALSO ONLINE FROM MAVERIK TO ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS, AND STAFF IS HERE TO ALSO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
ARE WE, AS THESE DEVELOPMENTS ARE COMING THROUGH, ARE WE SUGGESTING TO UPDATE THE TECHNOLOGY TO SOMETHING THAT INCLUDES ELECTRIC CHARGING STATIONS? I FEEL AS WE'RE APPROVING THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS AND PARTICULARLY WITH SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT WILL BE HAPPENING IN CALIFORNIA IN THE NEXT YEAR, YOU KNOW, FEW YEARS, I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO START CONSIDERING HOW THESE PROJECTS ARE INCLUDING AND PREPARING FOR SOME OF THOSE IMPACTS, AND SO, NIKKI, MY QUESTION IS, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE STAFF IS MOVING FORWARD AS YOU'RE PLANNING THESE PROJECTS.
>> I DEFINITELY WILL INCORPORATE THAT MOVING FORWARD.
AS THESE PROJECTS ARE PRESENTED, THEY ARE ISOLATED TO THE TYPE OF USE THEY ARE PRESENTING.
SO IF IT IS A GAS STATION, YOU KNOW, WE TAKE THAT IN AS ONE.
AND SO AN INCORPORATION OF SOMETHING THAT IS, LIKE YOU SAID, MORE ORIENTED FOR
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FUTURE ENERGY, CATERING TYPE OF USE COULD BE BROUGHT UP TO THE APPLICANT, ALTHOUGH, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE INCORPORATED IN THE BUSINESS MODEL, IF NOT ALREADY, AND IF NOT, THAT WOULD BE THEIR DECISION TO INCORPORATE THAT.BUT CERTAINLY THAT WOULD BE -- CERTAINLY I COULD INCORPORATE THAT WITH OUR INITIAL CONSULTATION OR CONVERSATION.
>> AND IF I CAN WEIGH IN ON THIS A LITTLE BIT TOO.
SO THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CHANGES IN STATE LAW, COMMISSIONER, THAT DO DIRECT WHEN THE PROVISION OF EITHER EV CAPABLE OR EV READY INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS TO BE PUT IN.
IT IS NOT IN EVERY CIRCUMSTANCE, BUT IN THOSE INSTANCES WHERE IT IS APPLIED, IT IS APPLIED THROUGH THE BUILDING CODE REVIEW PROCESS.
SO WHEN OUR APPLICANT COMES UP FOR A BUILDING PERMIT, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO ADDRESS THAT IF IT'S SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE, AND THIS IS ACTUALLY -- THE REASON WHY IT'S DONE THROUGH THE BUILDING CODES IS BECAUSE IT WAS ACTUALLY ADOPTED PART OF THE BUILDING CODE UPDATES MOST RECENT 2019 BUILDING CODES.
THE BROADER QUESTION OF WHAT YOU'RE ASKING ULTIMATELY COULD BE A POLICY GORE BOTH THE COMMISSION AND COUNCIL AS IT RELATES TO GENERAL PLAN COMPLIANCE I, AS WELL AS THE CITY'S ADOPTION OF ITS CLIMATE ACTION PLAN.
AND AT SOME POINT THE CITY MAY WANT TO LOOK INTO WHETHER, AS PART OF CERTAIN ENTITLEMENTS THE CITY WANTS TO REQUIRE OR INCENTIVIZE OR WHATEVER METHODOLOGY THAT THE CITY ULTIMATELY FINDS APPROPRIATE THAT TYPE OF INFRASTRUCTURE.
IN INSTANCES WHERE WE'RE LEGAL REQUIRED TO DO IT WE ARE DOING IT BUT I THINK THERE'S A BRODER QUESTION KIND OF UNDERLYING YOUR INQUIRY.
AS A GENERAL PRACTICE, STAFF IS DOING THAT DECK PRACTICE STAFF IS DOING THAT IN THE BUILDING PROCESS BUT NOT ALWAYS ON THE PLANNING SIDE.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE AS A COMMISSION CAN INITIATE AS FAR AS POLICY IS CONCERNED, THAT THE PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING DOWN HAVE THESE TYPES OF REQUIREMENTS OR CONSIDER THESE TYPES OF CONDITIONS IF WE WANTED THEM TO MOVE FORWARD?
AM I HEARING YOU -- >> THAT IS CORRECT, AS PART OF THE ZONING CODE UPDATE, THAT WOULD BE THE PERFECT FORUM TO HAVE A POLICY DECISION, AND IF THE COMMISSION WANTS TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE STAFF, THAT WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE FORUM.
>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR NIKKI?
>> WOULD THIS PROPOSAL TRIGGER SOME KIND OF TRAFFIC STUDY OR TRAFFIC ANALYSIS? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 18-WHEELERS ESSENTIALLY COMING IN OFF GOLF CENTER.
IT WILL TRIGGER THAT INITIAL STUDY THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED A PART OF THE ENTITLEMENT.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE I ASK A QUESTION?
WE TALKED ABOUT SIGNAGE, AND THAT'S A BIG THING FOR US, AND WE TALKED ABOUT HOW THE OTHER GAS STATION THAT HAS BEEN ENTITLED HAS ONLY ONE 6-FOOT SIGN, AND YET HERE WE'RE LOOKING AT TWO VERY LARGE SIGNS AND THEN AN 8-FOOT MONUMENT SIGN WHICH ALREADY EXCEEDS WHAT WE ALLOWED ON THE OTHER SITE.
SO -- AND I GUESS THIS IS MOSTLY FOR STAFF.
HOW ARE WE GOING TO MAKE THOSE -- WE CAN'T ALLOW ONE PERSON TO DO ONE THING AND THEN ANOTHER ONE DEMAND THAT THEY DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
SO WHAT ARE WE -- I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW.
I GUESS I'D LIKE TO TALK TO STAFF ABOUT WHAT ARE THEY THINKING ABOUT WITH THESE SIGNS.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.
THE APPLICANT IS VERY AWARE OF THAT CONDITION RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED SINCE THE BEGINNING.
SO WE ARE HERE JUST SO THAT, YOU KNOW, TO SATISFY AND MAYBE ASK YOU TO PROVIDE THAT DIRECT FEEDBACK OF ESSENTIALLY THAT SIGNAGE BEING UNFORTUNATELY NOT HAVING BEEN ALLOWED ON THE OTHER GAS STATION.
WE CERTAINLY WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THAT FEEDBACK FROM YOU.
BOTH OF THESE SIGNS UNDER I GUESS A FREEWAY-ORIENTED SIGN SINCE IT'S QUALIFIED UNDER THAT DUE TO ITS LOCATION.
THESE TYPES OF SIGNS REQUIRE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AS WELL AS A DESIGN REVIEW TO GO BEFORE YOU.
IT'S TO BE SEPARATELY ON THE OWN.
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AND SO AS PART OF REALLY THE ENTITLEMENT, THEY HAVE TO INCLUDE THAT, AND I SEPARATE DECISION COULD BE MADE FOR THAT OR IT COULD BE INCLUDED AS PART OF THE WHOLE ENTITLEMENT PROCESS.SO, YES, THESE TYPES OF SIGNS WILL HAVE COULD TOM BACK TO YOU FOR YOUR DECISION, AND THOSE TWO ENTITLEMENTS ARE PART OF THAT.
BUT, OF COURSE, INITIALLY THAT WAS DEFINITELY DISCUSSED, AND THEY'RE TAKING THEIR CHANCES TO PRESENT THIS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
YEAH, WE'VE BEEN VERY SENSITIVE AND VERY CONSISTENT IN OUR DESIRE NOT TO HAVE OUR I10 CORRIDOR LOOK LIKE OTHER CITIES' I10 CORRIDOR WHERE THERE IS A SIGN EVERY FEW FEET, IT FEELS LIKE, RIGHT? SO THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT, DEPENDING ON WHAT COMES BACK, IT'S BEEN A VERY BIG CONCERN AND PROBABLY WILL CONTINUE TO BE A CONCERN FOR THE COMMISSION.
THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS A FEW MONTHS AGO WE HAD ANOTHER GAS STATION COME BUFFS, AND WE HAD SOME IN-DEPTH CONVERSATIONS ABOUT DESIGN AND THE FACT 31 THAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR NEW, POSSIBLY MODERN, YOU KNOW, ARCHITECTURE, SOMETHING THAT WAS MORE EXCITING TO BRING A LITTLE MORE COLOR AND ENERGY TO THE CITY.
AND WHEN I LOOK AT THIS ARCHITECTURE, I DO NOT FEEL THAT THOSE THINGS THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING IN-DEPTH A FEW MONTHS AGO ARE COMING THROUGH AT ALL ON THIS DESIGN.
HAS THAT CONVERSATION BEEN HAD WITH THE APPLICANT?
AND SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUS CONVERSATION I HAD, IT WAS DEFINITELY, ONCE AGAIN, THE APPLICANT WANTED TO HEAR DIRECTLY FROM YOU THAT CONCERN AND, YES, ABSOLUTELY.
IT IS ALL MODERN DESIGN THAT IS FAMILIAR WITH OUR DESERT SCAPE HERE, AND THAT HAS BEEN ADVISED FOR THEM.
AND CERTAINLY WHEN IT'S THEIR TURN, THE APPLICANT COULD VOICE THAT AS WELL.
BUT, YES, THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED.
>> JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE FOR THE RECORD.
YOU KNOW, I FORGOT KIND OF TIN FORMAL NATURE THESE DESIGN REVIEW CONSULTATIONS.
IT SEEMS A BIT FORMAL ALREADY.
BUT WE HAVEN'T REALLY ASKED THE APPLICANT ANY QUESTIONS.
I'M CURIOUS, I HAVEN'T HEARD OF MAVERIK.
I DID A GOOGLE MAP SEARCH AND THERE ARE NO LOCATIONS IN CALIFORNIA.
THERE ARE ANY LOCATIONS IN CALIFORNIA? IS THIS ONE OF THE FIRST ONES PROPOSED?
>> YEAH, I'LL ADDRESS A FEW OF THE CONCERNS.
WE'RE A CONVENIENCE STORE BASED OUT OF SALT LAKE CITY, UTAH.
WE HAVE 350 LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE WESTERN UNITED STATES.
SO WE ARE A USER THAT COULD HAVE WOULD COME IN AND RETAIN THE ASSET AND BE A 32 LONG-TERM USER AND OPERATOR AT THESE FACILITIES.
JUST A BRIEF HISTORY OF MAVERIK.
OUR CONVENIENCE STORE, WE ALSO OFFER A GRILL, AND LIKE NIKKI MENTIONED WE HAVE BEEN A GRILL AND MADE-TO-ORDER FOOD.
SO THERE'S A RESTAURANT COMPONENT WITHIN THIS CONVENIENCE STORE.
AND THEN WE HAVE TYPICAL CONVENIENCE STORE AND KIND OF NEIGHBORHOOD OR SMALL GROCERY ITEMS AS WELL.
SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT -- IF YOU HAD OTHER GAS STATIONS OR USES COME BEFORE YOU, THIS WOULD BE A LARGER STORE, A NEWER STORE THAT WOULD HAVE A LOT MORE ROOM INSIDE AND A LITTLE BIT MORE TO OFFER WINTER THE STORE.
AND YOU ARE CORRECT AS FAR AS CALIFORNIA.
WE HAVE TWO STORES UNDER CONSTRUCTION IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA, AND WE WILL HAVE OUR FIRST ONE COMPLETE JUST OUTSIDE OF SACRAMENTO APPROXIMATELY JULY OR AUGUST OF THIS YEAR.
SO THIS IS A NEW MARKET FOR US.
THIS STORE THAT YOU SEE IS KIND OF AN UPGRADED STORE BECAUSE WE'VE PUSHED IT -- WE'VE SUSTAIN STAFF COMMENTS, AND KIND OF WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE SAID IN THE PAST.
THIS IS A UPGRADED STORE WITH MORE WINDOWS.
IT IS ARCHITECTURE THAT'S MORE STONE.
THERE ARE SOME CLEAN LINES AS FAR AS WE ALL HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION OF WHAT MODERN IS, SO PERHAPS WE'VE HAD TO WORK WITH YOU GUYS ON HOW WE WOULD MAKE THAT FIT WITH YOUR CITY AND YOUR DESIRES AND WE'D BE WILLING TO DO THAT AS WELL.
AND IF YOU WANT, I COULD JUST ADDRESS THE FOUR ITEMS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP, AND I'LL TRY BE BRIEF.
AS FAR AS -- WAS THERE A COMMENT?
I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR STAFF, FOR NIKKI.
NIKKI, MY QUESTION WAS -- AND I MAYBE MISSED IT -- WHAT IS THIS ZONED UNDER? WHAT'S THE ZONING IN THIS PROPERTY HERE?
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>> IT'S ZONED UNDER COMMUNITY 33 COMMERCIAL.
SO THE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE COME UP SPECIFICALLY WERE EV STATIONS.
AND WHAT MAVERIK WOULD TYPICALLY DO IS PUT IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR A FEW EV STATIONS ON THE PROPERTY.
THAT MEANS AT ANY TIME YOU COULD GO IN AND ADD THOSE EV STATIONS, AND THAT'S TYPICAL ACROSS THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA IS WHAT WE'RE DOING.
SOME CITIES AND THE ATTORNEY KIND OF ADDRESSED THAT, SO THAT WHEN THAT BECOMES A REQUIREMENT, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO GO IN AND ALREADY HAVE THE CONDUIT AND THINGS WIRED FOR AN EV STATION.
THAT WOULD BE MAVERIK'S PLAN AT THIS LOCATION.
WE WOULD PROVIDE A TRAFFIC STUDY AND TRAFFIC PATTERN ANALYSIS LIKE YOU SAID WITH BIG TRUCKS.
WE HAVE THEM COMING IN ALL THE WAY AROUND SITE SO THEY CAN LEAVE ADJACENT TO THE FREEWAY.
SO THERE WOULD US IN BE ONE TRAFFIC PATTERN FOR ANY LARGE TRUCKS OR BOX TRUCKS THAT WOULD ACCESS THE SITE, AND WE WOULD ALSO PROVIDE A TRAFFIC STUDY WITH TRAFFIC COUNTS ON THE SITE.
AND AS FAR AS ARCHITECTURE, ALREADY MENTIONED THAT.
WE WOULD WORK WITH STAFF AND KIND OF WHAT YOU GUYS SEE IS YOUR MODERN OR YOUR DESIRED ARCHITECTURE FOR THE SITE.
AND THEN SIGNAGE ON THIS PARTICULAR SITE, AND WE KNOW NIKKI HAS PRESENTED OTHER SIGNAGE REQUIREMENTS, AND WE KIND OF LOOKED INTO YOUR CODE AND WHAT'S ALLOWED PER CODE AND WHAT THE DESIRE OF THE COMMISSION WOULD BE.
NIKKI, CAN YOU GO BACK TO OUR SIGNAGE PLAN? I WILL JUST CLARIFY WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR LARGE SIGNS.
AND THE DIFFERENCE IN THIS SITE PERHAPS WOULD BE WE ARE A MULTI-TENANT SITE.
WE HAVE SIX -- FIVE OR SIX USERS THAT COULD GO ON THIS SITE, AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR DESIRE FOR LIMITED SIGNAGE.
THIS SIGNAGE WOULD SERVE THE WHOLE SITE ON A LARGER BASIS.
AND ALSO JUST GET TRAFFIC TO BE ABLE THE KNOW THERE'S A USE OFF OF THAT EXIT.
SO THERE WOULD ONLY BE ONE OF THOSE SIGNS.
WE'RE JUST PROPOSING ONE OTHER MUNICIPALITY SIGN.
SO THAT'S THE TWO SIDES OF THE MUNICIPALITY SIGN.
SO WE'RE ONLY PROPOSING TWO SIGNS, A MONUMENT SIGN AND THEN A MULTI-TENANT SIGN THAT COULD JUST INDICATE, YOU KNOW, THE PRICING OF THE FUEL.
AND THEN THE CAT SCALE IS IN PEOPLE WANT TO COME OFF THE FREEWAY, AND THE BENEFIT TO THE CITY IS YOU GET THAT TAX REVENUE FROM PEOPLE ON THE SITE THAT ARE PULLED OFF OF THE-FREE WAY AND THEN THE LARGER TRUCKS HAVE A WEIGHING STATION JUST TO INDICATE WHERE THEY CAN WEIGH.
THAT WOULD BE THE DETAILS ON THE SIGNS.
THOSE WERE THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ANSWERED SO FAR.
BUT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS I'M WILLING TO KIND OF GO OVER THOSE AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS WE GO FORWARD.
>> WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO THE RESIDENTS OF BLITHE, INDIO ENJOYS ITS REPUTATION, I DO, AS REALLY BEING THE ENTRANCE TO CALIFORNIA IN A SENTENCE WHERE YOU'RE COMING DOWN INTERSTATE 10.
YOU GO BY BLITHE, YOU'VE GOT AN HOUR AND A HALF OF DESERT AND HIRE DROPPING INTO THE COACHELLA VALLEY AND THE VIEW WITH THE SNOW-CAPPED MOUNTAINS IS PHENOMENAL COMING OF FROM THE EAST.
SO I THINK WE ARE LOOKING FOR ENHANCED DESIGN.
A COUPLE OF CONCERNS I HAVE WITH THE PROPOSED USE IS WE CALL THIS AN EMPLOYEE AREA FOR THE CITY UNDER ITS GENERAL 35 PLAN.
SO HOW MANY EMPLOYEES DO YOU EMPLOY? AND WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THOSE EMPLOYEES ARE PAID BEYOND THE STATE MINIMUM WAGE AND WHO IS GETTING PAID A LIVING WAGE HERE?
>> NIKKI, COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE OVERALL SITE PLAN TO SHOW KIND OF THE DIFFERENT USES ON THE SITE.
SO WE'RE PURCHASING THE WHOLE OUTLINE OF THE PARCEL THERE, SO THE ONE THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DARKER WOULD BE THE IMMEDIATE USE OF THE MAVERIK WITH OUR BUILDING ON THE IMMEDIATE CORNER.
A STORE OF THIS SIZE, WE WOULD HAVE A GENERAL MANAGER AT THE STORE, AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE A DISTRICT MANAGER AND A REGIONAL MANAGER THAT WOULD BE OVER OUR SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.
SO THERE WOULD BE THREE TYPES OF MANAGERS.
TWO WOULD LIKELY BE IN HOME OR CORPORATE OFFICE AND ONE IN THE STORE.
AND THEN OUR ACTUAL STORE WOULD PROBABLY EMPLOY 15 TO 20 OTHER USERS FROM PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE IN THE KITCHEN AND IN THE RESTAURANT PORTION TO CASHIERS THAT WOULD BE IN AND DOING THE DAILY OPERATIONS OF THE USE.
SO THIS STORE, I WOULD SAY PROBABLY WOULD EMPLOY 20-PLUS PEOPLE.
ADDITIONALLY, WE'RE LOOKING TO PARCEL OFF NEARLY ALL OF THIS SITE AT A LATER DATE AND HAVE OTHER USE, FAST FOOD USES THAN WHAT WE SHOW CURRENTLY.
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THESE AREN'T UNDER REVIEW BY ANY MEANS.BUT THE THIRD ONE WOULD BE SIMILAR TO A STARBUCKS OR A FAST FOOD PLACE AND THEN PAD SITES.
SO WITH THE DEVELOPMENT THAT PARCEL, THERE WOULD BE MULTI-USERS AND MULTI-TENANTS AND VARIOUS DIFFERENT EMPLOYMENT CENTERS IN ADDITION TO WHAT THE MAVERIK WOULD PROVIDE THE ON CORNER.
SO THERE WOULD BE A MIXED USE OF EMPLOYMENT AT THIS LOCATION.
>> UNDERSTANDING THERE COULD BE SOME POTENTIAL FUTURE DEVELOPMENT DOWN THE 36 ROAD, WITH MAVERIK ITSELF, 15 TO 20 EMPLOYEES, HOW MANY OF THOSE EMPLOYEES ARE YOU PAYING ABOVE THE STATE MINIMUM WAGE? LIKE HOW MANY EMPLOYEES ARE MAKING A LIVING WAGE FOR CALIFORNIA?
>> YEAH, WE HAVE STORES THAT ARE OPENING IN CALIFORNIA, AND I'M NOT THE PERSON TO ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS ON EXACTLY WHAT THE WAGES ARE GOING TO BE, BUT WE WOULD HAVE, LIKE I SAID, THREE OR FOUR PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE MORE MANAGER LEVELS, AND THEN 12 TO 15 THAT WOULD BE AT THE -- I'M NOT -- THERE'S NOT A NUMBER THAT I CAN PRESENT TO YOU TODAY ON WHAT THE WAGES WOULD BE.
I'M OBVIOUSLY NOT THE OPERATIONS SIDE OF IT.
BUT OBVIOUSLY THERE WOULD BE THREE OR FOUR THAT WOULD BE HIRED AND THERE WOULD BE THE 15 PROBABLY THAT WOULD BE AT THE TYPICAL OF WHAT YOU WOULD SEE AT OTHER LOCATIONS WITH FUELING AND RESTAURANTS AND THAT TYPE OF THING.
>> AND WE COULD GET FURTHER DATA.
I CAN PROVIDE FURTHER DATA AS A COME BEFORE YOU AS THE FURTHER MEETINGS.
>> I'M SURE COMING INTO SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, MAYBE THIS BEING YOUR FIRST SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA LOCATION, TALKING ABOUT INDIO AND THE ENTRANCE INTO CALIFORNIA FROM ARIZONA, HAVE YOU DONE A MARKET ANALYSIS? I'M REALLY CURIOUS, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THAT YOU'RE A MILE AND A HALF, TWO MILES FROM DYLAN ROAD WHERE WE HAVE THE CONFLUENCE OF THREE FREEWAYS, WE HAVE A TA CENTER, WE HAVE LOVE'S, WE HAVE A CASINO, THAT ALL OFFER SIMILAR TYPES SERVICES FOR THESE BIG BOX TRUCKS.
HOW DO YOU SEE YOUR FACILITY FITTING IN WITH THOSE EXISTING AMENITIES, I GUESS?
SO WE HAVE DONE QUITE A BIT OF ANALYSIS ON SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AS WE ENTER A NEW MARKET.
WE HAVE A FINANCE DEPARTMENT AND A DEPARTMENT THAT HAVE LOOKED INTO THIS.
WE HAVE THREE OR FOUR OTHER SITES UNDER CONTRACT IN SURROUNDING CITIES, INCLUDING WE'VE PURCHASED A SITE ALREADY IN VICTORVILLE AND WE'RE IN THERE PROCESS AS WELL AS ALONG I-15.
AND WHAT WE HAVE FOUND IN OUR MARKET ANALYSIS IS AS OUR COMMUNITIES GROW AND AS THE POPULATIONS BASICALLY THERE'S A LOT OF GROWTH IN THIS AREA, AND I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBERS IN FRONT OF ME BUT THERE'S A LOT OF EXISTING STATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR FIVE OR TEN OR 15 YEARS.
AND THERE IS A LARGE NEED FOR -- WE DON'T WANT TO BE A TRUCK STOP.
OUR PLIER -- WE'RE NOT A LOVE'S AND WE'RE NOT A TA.
THERE'S NO PARKING ON-SITE SO THE TRUCKS AREN'T GOING TO COME AND STAY OUR SITE.
THIS IS SOMEONE THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO GO TO THOSE OTHER LOCATIONS.
THERE'S OTHER LOCAL DELIVERIES, AMAZON TYPE TRUCKS THAT DON'T WANT TO GO TO THOSE LARGER STATIONS SO WE'RE KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT NICHE, AND THAT'S WHERE WE FIT IN ALL ACROSS THE WESTERN UNITED STATES.
SO IT'S WORKED VERY WELL FOR US THROUGHOUT THE OTHER STATES.
AND WE ANTICIPATE THAT IT WOULD WORK VERY WELL IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AS WELL.
WE DON'T KNOW, AND IT IS A LARGE RISK AND A LARGE INVESTMENT.
IT WOULD BE $10 MILLION AND $15 MILLION FOR US TO COME TO THIS SITE AND THEN OTHER USERS AS WELL.
BUT WE'RE EXCITED TO COME, AND CALIFORNIA DEFINITELY IS MORE CHALLENGING THAN PERHAPS SOME OF THE OTHER STATES IN THE WEST, BUT WE'RE EXCITED, AND OUR MARKET RESEARCH SHOWS THAT WE HAVE A GREAT POTENTIAL TO EXPAND AND BE THAT MIDDLE USER KIND OF BETWEEN THE SMALLER -- WE'RE NOT'S EBB 7-ELEVEN WHERE ONLY CARS CAN GO.
>> THAT HELPS ME UNDERSTAND YOUR BUSINESS MODEL, I GUESS.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE A TA OR LOVE'S.
>> THERE'S NO OVERNIGHT EVER OVERNIGHT.
EVERYBODY IS IN AND OUT IN 30 MINUTES OR LESS.
>> MAYBE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'RE STILL GOING THROUGH A ZONING UPDATE TO GAIN COMPLIANCE OR CONSISTENCY BETWEEN OUR GENERAL PLAN, DOES THIS ZONE TODAY ALLOW A GAS STATION OR DOES THAT REQUIRE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT OR ARE THEY HAVING TO DO A SPECIFIC PLAN LIKE WE HAVE SEEN ON SOME APPLICATIONS, WILL BE A FUTURE ZONING DESIGNATION REQUIRE THE SAME OR POSSIBLY EVEN PROHIBIT THIS TYPE OF USE? CURRENTLY UNDER THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL ZONING DESIGNATION, THE GAS STATION
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WOULD BE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND.THE ZONING UPDATE, I DON'T KNOW A WHAT THAT ENTAILS AS TO WHAT IS THIS GOING TO BE REZONE FOR, IF IT EVEN WILL.
I CAN DEFINITELY LOOK INTO THAT FOR SURE, COMMISSIONER.
>> COMMISSIONER CEJA, THERE IS DIRECTOR SNYDER.
EVENTUALLY YOU'RE GOING TO TELL US AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO RECOMMEND TO THE COUNCIL.
BUT THAT'S THE FUN THAT WE ALL GET TO ENGAGE IN PROBABLY STARTING A FEW MONTHS FROM NOW.
I KNOW WE'RE THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE AS WE'RE ALL STILL WORKING THROUGH IT.
I'M CURIOUS IF THERE'S ANY KIND OF SPECIAL APPROVALS REQUIRED FOR THIS BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE HOW EVERYONE ELSE FEELS ABOUT THIS.
3 ABOUT GIVEN WE HAVE A CONCENTRATION OF THESE USES OFF DYLAN, I'M A LITTLE HESITANT TO START BRINGING THESE FURTHER AND FURTHER INTO TOWN.
THEY SEEM TO WORK KINDS OF ON THE OUTSKIRTS.
BUT I'M CURIOUS WITH THE LAND USE ITSELF, THE TRAFFIC IT MIGHT GENERATE FROM THE BIG RIGS, WHAT THAT ALL LOOKS LIKE.
AND THEN, OF COURSE, BEING CALIFORNIA AND THE PRIDE WE HAVE IN INDIO LOOKING FOR MORE MODERN DESIGN, REALLY WANTING TO SEE A SITE PLAN, AN ARCHITECTURE THAT DIFFERENTIATES ITSELF FROM MAVERIK'S OF UTAH OR ARIZONA OR ANYWHERE ELSE YOU MIGHT HAVE IT, A UNIQUE TYPE OF ARCHITECTURE THAT REALLY FITS INTO THIS CITY AND THE VISION WE HAVE GOING FORWARD.
I THINK THERE'S SOME HESITATION ON THE USE ITSELF, BUT, OF COURSE, ALWAYS WANTING TO PUSH FOR BETTER AND BETTER DESIGN.
BUT AGAIN, IT ISN'T JUST GENERIC ANYWHERE USA.
>> IF I MAY JUST ADD A COMMENT.
A FRIENDLY REMINDER AND IT'S BEEN FINE SO FAR BUT JUST A FRIENDLY REMINDER TO THING PLA COMMISSION THAT THE PURPOSE OF STUDY COMMISSION IS TO ASK ES QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROJECT WHICH YOU HAVE ALL BEEN DOING AND A REMINDER TO REFRAIN FROM EXPRESSING OPINIONS AT THIS TIME.
I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, AND I OBJECT KIND OF ASK THIS LAST QUESTION WITH THE PREVIOUS APPLICANT.
WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO WORK AGAIN WITH STAFF TO AGAIN LOOK AT THE ZONING.
IT'S AGAIN TO SEE IF THIS IS THE BEST AND HIGHEST USE FOR THAT -- WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING AND PUTTING TOGETHER LIKE AN ANALYSIS OR STUDY.
AND WE DO THIS IN MULTIPLE MARKETS AND LOOK AT THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE, AND 40 TYPICALLY THAT'S A MIXED USE OF EMPLOYMENT, WHICH WE HAVE TRIED TO INTEGRATE UP TO THIS POINT, BUT WE COULD DO AN ADDITIONAL STUDY, WHICH I THINK COULD BE PART OF CEQA DOCUMENT ADDITION OR OTHER REQUIRED STUDIES FOR THIS SITE WHICH WOULD FLOW ALONG WITH THE TRAFFIC STUDY AS WELL.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK AT.
>> I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION OF THE APPLICANT.
SO YOU MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY THE LONG-TERM PLAN IS MORE DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? NOT JUST THE GAS STATION.
THE HOTEL POSSIBLY AND THE COFFEE SHOP AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS.
>> YOU HAVE, I THINK YOU SAID, 350 LOCATIONS IN OTHER STATES, WHICH I DID LOOK IT UP AS WELL AND NOTICED YOU WERE MOSTLY IN UTAH AND A LITTLE BIT OF COLORADO, THAT KIND OF THING.
DO MANY OF YOUR OTHER LOCATIONS HAVE EXTENDED USES LIKE THIS, LIKE HOTELS OR STARBUCKS OR OTHER?
SO JUST TO CLARIFY, WE, AS THE OPERATOR, WOULD ONLY OPERATE THE MAVERIK PORTION OF THIS.
WE HAVE A REAL ESTATE ARM, AND I'M PART OF THAT REAL ESTATE DIVISION.
WE WOULD PAD OFF OR CREATE PAD SITES AND SELL OFF THOSE OTHER PROPERTIES.
SO IF A MCDONALD'S CAME IN OR IF A STARBUCKS CAME IN, WE WOULD JUST SELL THE LOT TO THEM AND THEY WOULD OWN AND OPERATE THEIR OWN OPERATIONS, AND IF A HOTEL CAME IN, WE WOULD PARCEL OFF THAT TWO ACRES OR WHATEVER IT IS AND THAT'S THIS WE OPERATE THAT COMPLETELY SEPARATELY.
SO WE WOULD NOT ACT AS A DEVELOPER.
WE WOULD ACT AS A LAND SELLER.
DEVELOPMENT DOES SPUR OTHER DEVELOPMENT AND IT DOES CREATE TRAFFIC.
THAT'S WHY YOU DO THE TRAFFIC STUDIES.
THIS PARCEL IS A CHALLENGING PARCEL.
4 PROBABLY HAD SOME TYPES OF CHALLENGES, SO WE DO TAKE A LOT OF RISK COMING IN AND INVESTING $15 MILLION IN DEVELOPING SITE.
SO THERE WOULD BE ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD FOLLOW, AND WE WOULD JUST SELL OFF THOSE SITES TO OTHER USERS.
AND TO ANSWER THE SECOND PART OF YOUR QUESTION WE HAVE BEEN SOLD OFF OTHER SITES.
IF THERE'S A LARGE PARCEL, THAT'S WHAT WE TYPICALLY DO.
WE TAKE WHAT WE WANT FOR OUR USE AND WHAT WE'RE GOOD AT AND THEN WE SELL THE OTHER
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USES.EARLIER YOU WERE SAYING THAT YOU ARE COMFORTABLE WORKING WITH THE COMMISSION AND THE STAFF TO UPDATE THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDING.
I'M CURIOUS AS TO WHAT EXTENT.
I KNOW THAT THERE'S PROBABLY BRANDING AND CERTAIN FEATURES THAT MIGHT BE PART OF YOUR BRANDING, BUT I'M CURIOUS IF YOU'RE OPEN TO COMPLETELY CHANGING OR DRASTICALLY CHANGING THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN OF THIS TO SOMETHING THAT IS -- TO OUR IDEA OF WHAT IS MORE MODERN I GUESS IS MY QUESTION.
SO THE ANSWER IS POTENTIALLY WE'D BE WILLING TO DO THAT.
WHAT WE WOULD NEED IS, AS WE WORK WITH STAFF AND THE COMMISSIONERS, WE WOULD HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
PERHAPS -- WE HAVE IN-HOUSE ARCHITECTS AND OUT AND THIRD PARTY ARCHITECTS.
SO PROBABLY WHAT WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN IS WE WOULD MAKE A TRIP DOWN TO INDIO WITH OUR ARCHITECTS AND WE WOULD LOOK A THREE OR FOUR BUILDINGS THAT ARE SIMILAR OR HAVE THE CHARACTERISTICS THAT YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN OUR DESIGN.
I'M ON THE FRONT END OF OUR REAL ESTATE TEAM AND I'VE BEEN THERE.
BUT WE WOULD PROBABLY WANT SOME GUIDANCE IN THAT.
4 DECISION AND ANALYSIS OF HOW MUCH IS THAT GOING TO COST AND IS THIS -- WE'RE NOT A GIANT CHAIN BUT WE WOULD WANT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY USE IN OTHER MARKETS.
IT'S HARDS TO DO THIS AND JUST DO IT ONE TIME AND DESIGN A WHOLE NEW STORE THAT YOU JUST USE ONE TIME.
SO WE WOULD HAVE TO DO A COST/BENEFIT ANALYSIS.
THAT'S WHAT I WOULD TAKE TO MY REAL ESTATE COMMITTEE AND SAY HERE'S WHAT THE CITY OF INDIO WOULD APPROVE IF WE WERE TO DO THIS, AND THEN WE WOULD PUT PEN TO PAPER AND SEE HOW MUCH THAT WAS GOING TO COST, AND I COULD COME BACK AND GIVE YOU THE REAL ANSWER AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.
BUT WE WOULD DEFINITELY LOOK INTO IT AND THAT'S HOW WE WOULD APPROACH IT.
>> AND THE FOLLOW-UP QUESTION, THEN, TO STAFF IS DO WE HAVE DESIGN -- WHAT'S THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR?
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THEN THE COMMISSION TAKES ON? AND I APOLOGIZE BECAUSE I'M FAIRLY NEW, RIGHT? SO I GUESS IT'S TO BETTER UNDERSTAND HOW DO WE MOVE THE DIRECTION OF THE APPLICANTS AS FAR AS THE DESIGN.
DO WE HAVE THOSE STANDARDS? OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT COULD BE WORKED ON?
OUR ZONING STANDARDS, OUR DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS GUIDING US, IT'S NOT QUITE SPECIFIC.
OF COURSE, IT IDENTIFIES THAT IT HAS TO BE HARMONIOUS WITH THE SURROUNDING BUILDINGS.
AND SO DEFINITELY THE MAJOR MOVING FORCE IS YOUR GUIDANCE TO THAT SPECIFIC STORE OR ARCHITECTURE.
AND SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE TYPES OF ARCHITECTURE, OF COURSE, WE SWAY THEM TO WHAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE, TOO, TO OU BUT TO REALLY DIRECTLY ANSWER THAT QUESTION, WE DO NOT HAVE A VERY SPECIFIC ARCHITECTURE DESIGN GUIDELINES UNDER OUR CURRENT ZONING.
>> IF I CAN WEIGH IN, AGAIN, THIS IS TO BE DISCUSSED BECAUSE WE WILL BE GOING THROUGH THE ZONING UPDATE PROCESS WHERE THE COMMISSION WILL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO GET MORE SPECIFIC ABOUT KIND OF PUTTING YOUR EXPECTATIONS, IF YOU WILL, IN STONE IN TERMS OF DESIGN STANDARDS.
HOWEVER, THE COMMISSION I THINK HAS DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB OF WORKING WITH A VARIETY OF APPLICANTS UP TO DATE, OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS OF REALLY TRYING TO IMPART YOUR THOUGHTS AND IDEAS AND GUIDING APPLICANTS THROUGH WHAT THE INDIO LOOK AND FEEL IS.
SO I CONTINUE TO ENCOURAGE THE COMMISSION TO DO THAT THROUGH THE DESIGN REVIEW PROCESS.
YOU DO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO, SINCE IT IS DISCRETIONARY, TO REASONABLY GIVE GUIDANCE AND HELP SET THE LOOK AND FEEL OF PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, AS YOU ALL KNOW, YOU AS A COMMISSION HAVE CONSISTENTLY FOCUSED ON MODERN ARCHITECTURE, DESERT FRIENDLY LANDSCAPING, PLACEMENT OF BUILDINGS CLOSE TO THE STREET, MAKING SURE THAT PARKING IS NOT A DOMINANT FEATURE.
THESE ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT GENERAL PLAN WHAT YOU'RE WORKING WITH AND THAT EVENTUALLY WE'LL WORK AND YOU THE ULTIMATE COUNCIL TO MAKE IT THEIR WAY IF YOU
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WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THE COUNSEL INTO THE ZONING CODE UPDATE.JUST CURIOUS IN LOOKING AT THE WHOLE PROPOSAL.
I'M HOPING IF THERE'S A CEQA ANALYSIS, THAT IT DOES ANALYZE THE ENTIRE BUILD OUT OF THE SITE SO THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING TO PIECEMEAL THIS KIND OF DEVELOPMENT, THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT QUALITY SIT-DOW HOTELS AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THE FULL RANGE OF USES THAT COULD OCCUR HERE.
>> YEAH, WE WOULD WORK WITH STAFF AND SEE WHAT THE CEQA REQUIREMENTS ARE, AND I
THINK THAT MAKES SENSE, SO -- >> THANK YOU.
>> IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM.
>> I'LL START, AND IF LEILA HAS ANY ITEMS IT'S.
[10. STAFF ITEMS]
I JUST WANTED TO THANK THE COMMISSION AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME WITH THE RECENT JOINT MEETING WITH CITY COUNCIL TO DISCUSS HOUSING THE ELEMENT UPDATE.WE GOT A LOT OF FEEDBACK AND WE ARE FULL STEAM AHEAD ON THAT.
JUST WANT TO REMIND THE COMMISSION AND ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT MAY BE WATCHING US FOR VIRTUAL MEETINGS AT FEBRUARY 18TH AT 6:30 P.M.
AND YOU WILL BE ABLE TO VIEW THAT VIA CONNECTION ON THE CITY WEBSITE.
WE'LL BE ADVERTISING MORE ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
WE'LL ALSO BE SENDING OUT A CITYWIDE POSTCARD MAILING EARLY IN FEBRUARY.
IN ADDITION TO ALL OF NIKKI'S PLANNING SKILLS, SHE'S ALSO OUR GO-TO GRAPHIC DESIGNER, AND SHE'S DONE A GREAT JOB HELPING US DESIGN THAT, SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO NIKKI.
FEBRUARY 18TH, WILL BE THE FIRST OF THE COMMUNITY VIRTUAL MEETINGS.
IF YOU HAVE ANY INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE CONTACTING YOU THAT WANT TO GET MORE INFORMATION, WE DO HAVE A DESIGNATED WEB PAGE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE WHERE WE ARE POSTING INFORMATION.
ITEMS UNDER THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PORTION OF THE WEBSITE.
IT'S CALLED "HOUSING ELEMENT UPDATE." VERY SIMPLE.
THERE'S INFORMATION THERE AND WE'LL KEEP IT AS THIS PROJECT MOVES ON.
SO I WANT TO THANK THE COMMISSION AGAIN.
ON THE OTHER PROJECT THAT WE BRIEFED YOU ON THE HIGHWAY 111 SPECIFIC PLAN, THAT PROJECT IS ALSO MOVING ALONG.
RIGHT NOW THE CONSULTANT TEAM IS DOING A LOT OF BACKGROUND ANALYSIS AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO BE GEARING UP IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO TO MOVE INTO COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
SO UGLY START HEARING MORE ABOUT THAT PROJECT AS WELL.
AGAIN, THANK YOU FOUR YOUR TIME ON THE HOUSING UPDATE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR ANY OTHER STAFF REPORTS?
>> MADAME CHAIRPERSON, I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT WE WILL HAVE AGAIN KIND OF LIKE FULL PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS UP TO MARCH, SO WE WILL HAVE MINIMUM OF THREE ITEMS EVERY PLANNING COMMISSION, AND THEN AFTER MARCH NOTHING HAS BEEN SCHEDULED YET, BUT THERE ARE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON BASICALLY PROVIDING INFORMATION AND ZONING AND GENERAL PLAN INFORMATION AND WALKING THAT POTENTIAL APPLICANTS THROUGH WHAT NECESSARY STEPS THEY NEED TO TAKE.
SO WE ARE ANTICIPATING TO HAVE A FULL SPRING AND FULL SUMMER SCHEDULE.
[11. COMMISSIONER COMMENTS]
WELL, I JUST HAVE ONE.I JUST WANTED TO ASK REALLY QUICK, KEVIN, IF WE HAVE A DATE, SO IF OUR COMMISSIONERS ARE NEW BUT TO KIND OF GO THROUGH PROCESS, IF WE HAVE A DATE SELECTED YET SO WE CAN KIND OF GET AN IDEA OF THE PROCESS FROM APPLICATION TO END.
LIKE WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS TO KIND GET A FEEL FOR WHAT, WHEN SOMEONE COMES IN AND PULLS AN APPLICATION.
I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF WE ARE ABLE TO PULL DATE FOR THAT.
4 THE PLANNING COMMISSION, NOT ONLY PLANNING STAFF BUT ALSO BUILDING THE ENGINEERING TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A CRADLE TO
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GRAVE OVERVIEW OF OUR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS SO THAT THE COMMISSION CAN UNDERSTAND THE ENTIRETY OF THAT BECAUSE YOU GET TO SEE A COMPONENT OF IT BUT THERE'S THINGS THAT HAPPEN AFTER IT GOES TO YOU IN TERMS OF THE ENGINEERING AND THE BUILDING SIDE.SO -- AND THEN THERE ARE THINGS THAT HAPPEN BEFORE YOU.
WE REFERENCE THOSE A LOT BUT WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU MORE OF A OVERVIEW OF THAT.
SO LEILA AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING.
I THINK WE'VE TARGETED THE MARCH 24TH MEETING FOR THAT.
WE'LL GO TRY TO LIMIT THE AGENDA THIS EVENING SO WE CAN GIVE A GOOD AMOUNT OF TIME TO THAT TO ALLOW THE COMMISSION TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
WE'RE GOING TO BE MEETING INTERNALLY.
WE ARE GOING TO BE ASKING THE BUILDING OFFICIAL AND THE CITY ENGINEER TO BE THERE AS WELL TO HELP ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS AND TO PROVIDE OVERVIEW.
AND THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME.
THAT WAS SOMETHING WE WERE GOING TO MENTION THIS EVENING.
I THINK BOTH LEILA AND I, IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY, I THINK WE FORGOT.
BUT WE WILL BE COMING TO YOU ON THE 24TH OF MARCH.
DO YOU THINK WE'LL HAVE OUR NEW CITY MANAGER BY THEN OR -- >> NOW YOU'RE ASKING A QUESTION THAT I CAN'T EVEN -- I WILL BE -- I WILL WAIT TO SEE THE OUTCOME OF THAT DECISION MAKING.
>> SO IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS.
ANY IDEA WHEN WE MIGHT GO BACK TO IN-PERSON MEETINGS CONSIDERING THEY HAVE REOPENED RESTAURANTS AND I DON'T KNOW ALL THIS STUFF HAPPENED ON MONDAY.
>> IT'S AN INTERESTING QUESTION, COMMISSIONER.
I MEAN, THE PURPLE TIER IS STILL THE MOST RESTRICTIVE STATUS, AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE TIERS, THEY CONSECUTIVELY OPEN THINGS.
I THINK RIGHT NOW CONGREGATIONS OF PEOPLE ARE FAIRLY LIMITED.
SO I DON'T HAVE ANY IMMEDIATE TIME FRAME FOR YOU I THINK THAT'S GOING TO DEPEND ON HOW WE AS A STATE AND AS A REGION PROGRESS THROUGH THE PANDEMIC IN TERMS OF IMPROVEMENTS.
SO WE ARE PLANNING TO BE VIRTUAL FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE.
I KNOW THAT WE ALL WOULD LIKE TO BE BACK IN PERSON, ALTHOUGH I KNOW YOU'VE ALL GOTTEN GREAT AT THE VIRTUAL WORLD.
IT'S ALWAYS EASIER TO DO THIS IN PERSON.
BUT NI WE'RE NAY IN IT FOR A WHILE MORE.
>> I'M OKAY WITH STAYING VIRTUAL.
I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF ANYBODY WAS HAVING ANY CONVERSATIONS.
>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE ADJOURN?
WE HAVE APPROVED -- STAFF HAS BEEN TREMENDOUS AND EXTREMELY BUSY THE PAST COUPLE YEARS.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION, INCLUDED IN THAT.
I'M CURIOUS IF WE CAN GET A DROUGHN OF SOME OF THE PROJECTS WE HAVE APPROVED OVER THE PAST TWO, THREE YEARS AND KIND OF WHERE THEY'RE.
AT ARE THEY GOING TO BREAK GROUND? DO THEY HAVE BUILDINGS PERMITS? I'M THINKING OF ONO.
ANYTHING WITH THE AMANI THEATERS.
>> I'LL JUMP IN ON THAT, COMMISSIONER.
I'VE ASKED LEILA AND GIL, OUR BUILDINGS OFFICIAL, WE USED TO HAVE A -- THE STAFFING RESOURCES AND TIME, BUT WE SAT DOWN RECENTLY AND RECOMMITTED TO THAT IDEA.
4 I'M NOT GOING TO PUT LEILA ON THE SPOT AND GIVE AN ABSOLUTE DATE.
WHEN WE DO HAVE THAT, WHICH HOPEFULLY WILL BE SOON, WE INTEND TO SHARE THAT WITH THE COMMISSION AS WELL AS THE GENERAL PUBLIC, SO IT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WILL BE FORWARD FACING AS WELL.
UNLESS LEILA WANTS TO SAY SOMETHING, I'M NOT GOING TO PUT HER ON THE SPOT.
>> NO, I'M NOT IN A SPOT AT ALL.
THE THING IS UNO, THEY DID THEIR PLAN CHECKS SO THEY'RE IN THE PLAN CHECK.
AND THEN MAYA, I HAVE I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING, AND WITH THE COVID GOING ON, I'M NOT SURE WE CAN UPDATE YOU ON THAT.
BUT THEY WENT THROUGH THE SECOND PLAN CHECK AND THAT WAS IT THE LAST TIME.
BUT ON THE 24TH WE CAN ALSO GIVE YOU SOME INFORMATION ON WHAT WE HAVE APPROVED MAYBE DURING THE LAST TWO YEARS SINCE MAYBE FEBRUARY OF 2019, WHICH MR. SNYDER JOINED US, SO I GUESS IF THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE, WE CAN PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION AS WELL.
>> YEAH, I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, WHERE SOME OF THOSE APPROVALS ARE.
IF WE COULD, TOO, ON THE FAMOUS PALMS CENTER OFF MONROE AND AVENUE 42, I SEE THE QUICK QUACK CAR WASH IS COMING ALONG PRETTY NICELY.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID RELINQUISH ITS AUTHORITY BACK TO STAFF TO APPROVE THESE AT A STAFF LEVEL.
I'M CURIOUS IF THERE'S ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT COMING INTO THAT SHOPPING CENTER.
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>> NOTHING THAT I KNOW OF BECAUSE EVERYTHING THAT'S SUPPOSED TO COME FORWARD, IT REQUIRES APPROVAL, A REVIEW OF THE STAFF, SO THEY HAVEN'T.
IT WAS THE EOS, WHICH IT STOPPED, BOTH EOS BECAUSE OF THE COVID, AND IT WAS QUICK QUACK AND RVS THAT THEY WENT THROUGH.
SO NOTHING AFTER THAT HAS -- OR DURING THE TIME THAT THEY MET WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THAT BLANKET CUP, NOTHIN HAS COME TO STAFF FOR THAT CENTER.
>> AND ONE OF MY FAVORITES, ANYTHING ON DUTCH BROTHERS? DUTCH BROS?
>> DUTCH BROTHERS COFFEE, THEY, ACTUALLY BECAUSE OF WHAT THE FIRST MAYBE MONTH OR THREE WEEKS OF THEIR OPENING IN LA QUINTA, THERE WAS A LOT OF SPILLOVER TRAFFIC OUTSIDE THE DRIVE AND EVEN SOMETIMES ON JEFFERSON STREET, IS WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE APPLICANT AND WE ARE SETTLING UP A MEETING -- SETTING UP A MEETING TO MAYBE DO TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT OR TRAFFIC CONTROL DURING THE FIRST MONTH WITH OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER.
SO WE ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THAT, BUT VENTANA -- WHICH WILL BE NEXT WEEK, BUT WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED PLANS YET.
>> DID THEY WORK OUT THE PROBLEM WITH -- I FORGET WHAT IT WAS -- ACCESSING SOME KIND OF A LINE EITHER -- I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS GAS OR SOME KIND OF ACCESS.
>> IT WAS A WATER LINE ISSUE, COMMISSIONER.
THEY'RE WORKING WITH IWPA THEY HAVE A GOAL.
I CAN'T TELL YOU IF THEY WILL MEET IT OR NOT BUT THEY HAVE A GOAL OF TRYING TO BE OPEN THIS SUMMER, AND SO IT'S NOT THAT -- IT'S NOT THAT LARGE OF A DEVELOPMENT, AND SO AS LEILA SAID, THEY'RE NOT COMPLEX, BUT THEY DO NEED TO SUBMIT AND GO THROUGH THE PROCESS WITH US.
AND AS LEILA SAID, WE'RE GOING TO TRY THE WORK TO GET AHEAD OF THE TRAFFIC ISSUES THAT OUR TRAFFIC ISSUES THAT OUR FRIENDS IN LA QUINTA EXPERIENCED.
>> ANY MORE COMMENTS BEFORE I ASK FOR A MOTION TO ADJOURN? 5 AND ADJOURN?
>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
BYE-BYE.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.