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>> THERE YOU GO, GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE.
[1. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL]
IT IS 3:38 ON WEDNESDAY 21ST OF APRIL.I APOLOGIZE FOR GETTING STARTED A FEW MINUTES LATE.
NONETHELESS MAY WE HAVE ROLLCALL ORDER AS WE BRING THE STUDY SESSION OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER.
PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
PLACE YOUR HAND OVER YOUR HEART, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
THIS IS A TIME SET ASIDE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.
PUBLIC COMMENTS MAY BE PROVIDED IN THE MANNER PRESCRIBED AT THE TOP OF THIS AGENDA VIA EMAIL OR PHONE.
CITY CLERK TO BE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR THE STUDY SESSIONS ITEMS?
ITEM NUMBER 4 STUDY SESSION ITEMS.
[4.a. Eastern Riverside County Interoperable Communications Authority (ERICA) (Rob Rockwel, Assistant City Manager & Director of Financel / Michael Washburn, Chief of Police)]
EASTERN RIVERSIDE COUNTRY ENTER POPULAR COMMUNICATIONS AUTHORITY KNOWN AS ERICA.>> OF A FEW INTRODUCTORY COMMENTS AND THEN ALL HANDED OVER TO THE CHIEF THAT WILL BE DOING THE PRESENTATION.
I WANT TO MENTION THIS IS DISCUSSION ABOUT THE PUBLIC SAFETY RADIO STATION, ERICA THAT WAS CREDITED 2008 BETWEEN PARTNERING AGENCIES THAT NEEDED A SOLID COMMUNICATION SYSTEM IN THE VALLEY.
THERE WERE NO OTHER OPTIONS AT THE TIME.
THIS IS NOT REALLY A COST DISCUSSION BECAUSE WHETHER OR NOT THE CITY STAYS WITH ERICA OR PROCEEDS OR GOES TO ANOTHER AVENUES, PUBLI SAFETY COMMUNICATION AVENUES.
THERE WILL BE COST IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
THOSE COST WILL BE EITHER BORN TO UPGRADE THE CURRENT SYSTEM TO ERICA OR COST TO MOVE OVER TO A NEW SYSTEM.
THAT'S NOT THE FOCUS OF WHAT TODAY'S DISCUSSION IS, THOSE COST.
THERE'S AN IN OPERABILITY STORY THE CHIEF WILL ELABORATE ON.
I WANTED THE COUNCIL TO REMIND THE COUNCIL MAYOR PRO TEM FERMON IS THAT COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE ON THE ERICA BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
WITH THOSE COMMENTS CHIEF, I WANT TO GET THIS OUT OF THE WAY IF YOU WILL GO AHEAD.
MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MIKE WASHBURN YOUR CHIEF OF POLICE BECAUSE TODAY IS UNDERSHERIFF DENNIS TRUMAN FROM VERSED COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
I WOULD ADD A FEW MORE THINGS.
WERE AT A CROSSROADS RIGHT NOW.
WE NEED TO HEAVILY INVEST IN ERICA.
TO GET IT UP TO SPEED AND TO SOLVE OUR IN OPERABILITY ISSUES.
THE MAIN ISSUE WE HAVE PARTICULARLY IN THE CITY OF INDIO IS WE CANNOT COMMUNICATE IN A SEAMLESS MANNER WITH ALL OF OUR CONTIGUOUS CITIES.
THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT PATROLS ALL OF OUR CITIES THAT NEIGHBOR US.
WE CAN ONLY TALK TO THEM VIA A PATCH.
IN THE QUALITY IS COMPROMISES OFFICER SAFETY JUST BECAUSE WE CAN'T HEAR VERY WELL.
WHEN THE DEPUTY AND COACHELLA WAS SHOT WE HAD A REAL TOUGH TIME WITHOUT.
WE COULDN'T COORDINATE VERY WELL.
THERE'S A DELAY ON THE IN OPERABILITY SIDE.
NO MATTER WHAT WE DO WHETHER WE STAY WITH ERICA AND INVEST HEAVILY TO GAIN THAT IN OPERABILITY RECODED PEACE THAT WILL PROVIDE THAT, THAT IS THE MAIN ISSUE WERE TRYING TO RESOLVE.
VERY LITTLE HAS BEEN ACCOMPLISHED IN MY OPINION IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS IN ERICA BECAUSE HER AT THE CROSSROADS.
THE CHIEFS OF POLICE ARE I WOULD SAY MAYBE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ONE REALLY WANT TO GO TOWARD PEACE ACT.
WE BELIEVE THAT'S THE WAY TO GO.
I KNOW IN THE PRESENTATION LATER WE'LL TALK ABOUT SOME GRANT MONIES WE'VE APPLIED FOR AND THAT WERE PROBABLY GOING TO DO THAT AGAIN AND THAT WAS DONE THROUGH OUR COST.
SO, WE DECIDED AS A GROUP THAT THE CHIEFS AND SHERIFF THAT NONE OF US WILL APPLY FOR THE HOMELAND SECURITY MONEY INDIVIDUALLY.
OUR BIGGEST THING WE NEED TO ACCOMPLISH IS A REGION IS THAT FULL IN OPERABILITY.
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SO RADIO COST WOULD BE THE BIG ISSUE.WE HAVE TO UPGRADE OUR RADIOS AS WELL AS INFRASTRUCTURE.
ADDITIONALLY I WOULD POINT OUT OUR FINANCIAL MODEL FOR ERICA WAS RELIEVED BASED UPON A SUBSCRIBER FEE THAT NEVER REALLY CAME TO FRUITION.
THE THOUGHT PROCESS WAS THAT SCHOOL DISTRICTS, HOSPITALS WOULD JOIN ERICA AND PAY US TO BE ON OUR ERICA SYSTEM.
THAT'S WHY IT WAS SUCH A ROBUST SYSTEM IN THE BEGINNING.
THAT REALLY NEVER CAME TO FRUITION.
THE PROBLEM WE CURRENTLY HAVE IS HER PAIN OPERATING COST SO THESE BALLOON PAYMENTS UNLESS WE CHANGE OUR FINANCIAL MODEL WILL CONTINUE ON INTO THE FUTURE.
WHO KNOWS HOW OFTEN WE WOULD HAVE TO UPGRADE IT.
BUT IT'S BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR A WHILE.
WITHOUT GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO UNDERSHERIFF DENNIS TRUMAN TO TALK ABOUT PEACE ACT.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON THANKS CHIEF WASHBURN.
EVERYBODY HERE AND SEE ME OKAY? OKAY.
MADAM CITY CLERK ARE YOU GOING TO MOOD THE SLIDES FORWARD OR CAN YOU SEE MY SCREEN AT ALL?
>> WE DON'T SEE YOUR SCREEN YET.
DID YOU WANT TO TRY TO SHARE IT? OR WE CAN PULL IT UP FOR YOU.
AND THEN LET ME SHARE IT AGAIN.
>> CAN YOU SEE IT? YES, THANK YOU.
I CURRENTLY AM THE UNDERSHERIFF OF RIVERSIDE SHAWNEE COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
A BEEN WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT ABOUT 2 AND A HALF YEARS.
I HAVE A VAST MAJORITY OF MY EXPERIENCE IN MUNICIPAL LAW ENFORCEMENT.
IN FACT OVER 3 DECADES TOTAL AND THE LAST 27 YEARS PRIOR TO COMING TO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT WAS SHERIFF BALKO WAS WITH THA MARIETTA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THE REASON I MENTION THAT BECAUSE ONE OF THE LAST THINGS I DID THERE AS A CAPTAIN BEFORE I LEFT TO COME HERE WAS MY GREAT THAT MARIETTA POLICE DEPARTMENT ON 2-PIECE TECH RADIO SYSTEM BACK IN 2015.
I'VE BEEN ON THE STEERING COMMITTEE WITH WHEN I WAS WITH MARIETTA WHEN I TRANSFERRED OF THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT ONE OF THE ROLES I FILLED IN SHERIFF BALKO'S AND MR. SHIP WAS ON THE STEERING COMMITTEE REPRESENTING THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT I'VE BEEN INTRICATELY INVOLVED IN PEACE SINCE 2014.
THEN ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN TRANSITIONING ONE DEPARTMENT AND NOW SEVERAL OTHER DEPARTMENTS AS WELL TO I HOPE THE INFORMATION I SHARE IS INFORMATIONAL TO YOU.
ONE OF THE THINGS I LIKE TO COVER SOME OF THE BASIC GOALS OF PSEC.
THE ON BOARDING BENEFITS TO WHAT PSEC IS.
I'LL GO OVER SOME OF YOUR CURRENT ERICA OPERATIONAL COST AND WHERE THE CITY OF INDIO CURRENTLY SETS.
AS MENTIONED IN CHIEF WASHBURN'S REPORT CANCEL REPORT TO YOU.
TRANSITION OPTIONS THERE ARE SEVERAL DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND IT COMES DOWN TO THE TIMING IF YOU CHOOSE TO COME TO PSEC.
WHAT FISCAL YEAR YOU WOULD WANT TO DO THAT.
SOME SUMMARY AND GRANT FUNDING THAT CHIEF WASHBURN ARE DIMENSIONED AND THEN OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS HERE.
ALMOST THE SAME TIME AS ERICA STARTED.
BY THE TIME THEY FIRED ALL THE SITES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY AND IS ROUGHLY OVER 80 RADIO SITES AND TEMP SITES IF YOU WILL COME UP WEBSITES THAT REALLY IF YOU WANT TO VISUALIZE A BIG UMBRELLA OF RADIO COVERAGE.
IT'S OUR OWN MESH NETWORK THAT'S OVER THE ENTIRE RIVERSIDE COUNTY AND EXTENDS INTO THE COUNTIES THAT SURROUND US EVEN INTO INTO ARIZONA.
OBVIOUSLY WERE BIG COUNTY SO THAT WAS THE IDEA IS ALL OF THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES WOULD COME ON.
REALLY THE GOAL HAS BEEN TO ACHIEVE RELIABLE AND OPERANT COMMUNICATIONS FROM PUBLIC SAFETY AGENCIES.
NOT JUST LAW ENFORCEMENT, FIRE AND HAS MENTIONED THE DIVISION.
HOSPITAL AND SCHOOL DISTRICTS, NATIVE AMERICAN TRIBES AND THEIR SECURITY FORCES AS WELL TOO.
SOME OF THE ON BOARDING BENEFITS HERE WE HAVE EXCELLENT COVERAGE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.
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AS YOU CAN IMAGINE RIVERSIDE COUNTY TOPOGRAPHICALLY IS ONE OF THE MOST CHALLENGING ANYWHERE IN CALIFORNIA WITH ALL OF THE HILLS, VALLEYS, MOUNDS OF THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.TO GET THE RADIO COVERAGE IT TAKES A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE IN ORDER TO MAKE IT HAPPEN SO TO SPEAK.
WE HAVE THE CONNECTIONS, OR BUILDING CONNECTIONS WITH SEVERAL OTHER COUNTIES THAT SURROUND US.
WE HAVE INTERFACES THAT WERE CURRENTLY WORKING ON WITH SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY, SAN DIEGO COUNTY AND ORANGE COUNTY SPECIFICALLY.
OBVIOUSLY INDIO IS TO THE RIGHT OF THE SCREEN RIGHT HERE.
WE HAVE A MAJOR CELL AREA RIGHT HERE.
ON THE VALLEY FLOOR IN THE COACHELLA VALLEY IT'S EASY TO OPERATE BECAUSE IT'S FLAT SURFACE.
THE BENEFIT IS IF YOU HAVE A PURSUIT OR SOMETHING ELSE THAT TAKES YOU OUT OF THE CITY AND INTO SOME OF THE HILLY AREA THERE IS OPTIMA COVERAGE NO MATTER WHERE YOU GO IN THE COUNTY.
ONE OF THE THINGS THE COUNTY DID TO INVEST IN THE FUTURE SO TO SPEAK, BELIEVING AT SOME POINT IN TIME THE ERICA AGENCIES WOULD COME ON TO PSEC.
THE COUNTY PROACTIVELY INVESTED IN $2.7 MILLION PROJECT THAT WASN'T PART OF THE PSEC RAIDS TO THE END-USERS.
WE NEED TO DO A CHANNEL EXPANSION.
AS YOU CAN IMAGINE THERE'S HUNDREDS OF RADIOS THAT EACH OF THE AGENCIES UTILIZE AND WE DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE BUSY SIGNALS TO WHERE WOULD OVERLOAD THE SYSTEM.
WE CREATED OR INVESTED IN AND FINISH THE PROJECT TO ADD CHANNEL CAPACITY BY 20 PERCENT SPECIFICALLY FOR THE COACHELLA VALLEY.
KNOWING THAT ONE DAY MAY BE IN DOP DATE WOULD JOIN ON LARGE FESTIVALS SUCH AS THE COACHELLA FEST AND THOSE TYPE OF LARGE SCALES INCIDENCES WOULD TAKE A LOT OF RESOURCES AND LAW ENFORCEMENT RESOURCES AND PEOPLE WITH RADIOS.
WE DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE A SYSTEM OVERLOAD.
TYPICAL SYSTEMS FOR THE BEST TECHNOLOGY LAST ABOUT 10 TO 15 YEAR SHELF LIFE IF YOU WILL.
THE MICROWAVE TOWERS THAT WERE PUT UP ACTUAL MICROWAVES AND THE TOWERS ARE FINE AS THE BACKEND INFRASTRUCTURE IT EQUIPMENT.
IT WAS COMING TO END-OF-LIFE FOR THE COUNTY AGAIN PONIED UP $15 MILLION AND WERE PAYING IT BACK I BELIEVE 13 YEARS.
IS PUTTING NEW BACK AND SOFTWARE AND INFRASTRUCTURE, SOME OF THE SAME CHALLENGES YOUR FACE WITH IF YOU CHOOSE TO STAY WITH THE ERICA SYSTEM.
WE'VE ALREADY DONE THAT AND PUT NEW MICROWAVE VACUUM EQUIPMENT IN OUR 80+ SITES.
HERE IS SOME TO THE LEFT OF THE SCREEN IS A SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT HEARS ALL OF OUR CONTRACT CITIES THAN BEING A CONTRACT CITY BECAUSE THERE WITH US THERE ON PSEC.
SOME OF THE OTHER COUNTY CITY AGENCIES THAT HAVE JOINED SO YOU'VE GOT ANIMAL CONTROL AND SOME OF THE HOSPITALS.
AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN MURRIETTA IS ON.
HAMLET PD JUST SIGNED ON AND THEY SHOULD GO LIVE EITHER IN JUNE OR JULY OF THIS YEAR.
MANY OF THE CITIES THAT HAVE THEIR OWN RADIERS, CODE ENFORCEMENT HAVE JUMPED ONTO THE SYSTEM IN THE PREVIOUS YEARS.
IN A CONTRACT WITH COUNTY FIRE.
SO THE COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENT, ALL THEIR COMMAND STAFF ARE ON PSEC RADIOS.
THAT GIVES THEM THE DEVELOPED ABILITY ON THE LOW BAND FREQUENCIES.
WHAT THE PSEC SYSTEM HAS THE RADIO CAPACITY HAS YOU CAN PUT ANY 150, 700, AND 800 FREQUENCY ALL ON THE SAME RADIO.
THE RADIO HAS THE INTERNAL ABILITY TO BASICALLY SWITCH TO DIFFERENT CHANNELS AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE SEPARATE RADIOS TO DO THAT.
THE COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENT, THE ENGINES WITHIN THIS NEXT YEAR WILL ALL BE SWAPPED OUT TO PSEC RADIOS.
WHAT THAT DOES IS MORE USERS ON THE SYSTEM, LOWERS THE COST OF THE PER MONTHLY RADIO COST FOR EVERYBODY ELSE.
THE MORE PEOPLE ON IT THE CHEAPER IT IS FOR EVERYBODY ELSE.
SO, ANTICIPATING THIS AND I KNOW CHIEF WASHBURN KNOWS THIS.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SURE FALCO AND QUITE FRANKLY MYSELF LOBBIED PSEC AS
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ANOTHER COUNTY DEPARTMENT WITHIN OUR IT DEPARTMENT IS WE GOTTA GET THE RATES DOWN AND WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF ONBOARDING RATE CUT IN ORDER TO GET THE OTHER AGENCIES ON.NEED TO SHOW OUR LEVEL OF COMMITMENT.
WE DID THIS LAST YEAR PARTLY BECAUSE MENEFEE PD WAS GOING LIVE.
THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ADOPTED A TIERED RATE SYSTEM FOR NEW USERS TO COME ON.
OF COURSE THIS IS MANAGED BY THE RIVERSIDE COUNTY IT DEPARTMENT.
BUT, MENEFEE PD AND EMMETT PD CAME ON AND THEY HAVE A ZERO RATE GOES UP TO 25 PERCENT OF WHAT THE RATE IS.
THE CURRENT RATE RIGHT NOW IS 164.19 PER VIDEO PER MONTH.
WHEN MURRIETTA JOINED ON IT WAS 225 A MONTH PER RADIO PER MONTH.
WE BEEN PUSHING TO GET THAT RATE CUT AND MY VISION IS IT NEEDS TO BE UNDER $100 A MONTH PER RADIO PER MONTH.
I'LL TELL YOU HOW WERE GONNA GET THERE.
AS OF 8 DAYS AGO WE BROUGHT FORTH A MEASURE IN FRONT OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO TAKE CONTROL OF PSEC FROM THE RIVERSIDE COUNTY IT DEPARTMENT AND MOVE IT INTO THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
THAT BECAUSE EFFECTIVE ON JULY 1 OF THIS YEAR.
THE REASON WHY WE WANT THE CONTROL OF IT IS WE BELIEVE WE CAN CONTROL COST BETTER.
ENGINEERING COST OF THINGS THAT ARE PASSED ON TO OTHER USERS.
RIGHT NOW WE ARE 80 PERCENT OF PSEC AS A CUSTOMER.
THEREFORE 80 PERCENT OF TH CUSTOMER BASE WHY SHOULDN'T IT BE IN OUR DEPARTMENT? IT IS A FUNCTION OF THE SHERIFFS DEPARTMENT.
IN SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY, ORANGE COUNTY, SAN DIEGO COUNTY, BUT IT WASN'T UNDER HERE IN RIVERSIDE COUNTY.
WE STRONGLY BELIEVE WE CAN TAKE A LOOK.
BURGUM A TRANSITION OF THE EMPLOYEES OVER.
WE BELIEVE WE COULD CONSOLIDATE JOB CLASSIFICATIONS FUNCTIONS, RESPONSIBILITIES INTO THE EXISTING ORGANIZATION WHICH WILL LOWER THE COST EVEN MORE.
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE IT DEPARTMENT IT'S 100 PERCENT IN SOMEBODY'S JOB RESPONSIBILITY.
WHETHER IT'S 40 HOURS A WEEK WORTH OF WORK FOR THEM TO DO.
AND EVERYTHING AND EFFECTIVE THIS JULY WE WILL BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
IT'S NOT JUST THE SHERIFFS DEPARTMENT THE WAY THAT IT WORKS.
AS I MENTIONED BEFORE I WAS ON THE PSEC STEERING COMMITTEE.
THE CERT DAIRY COMMITTEE IS MADE UP OF THE USER ORGANIZATION THAT HAVE A VOTE.
THEY CAN VOTE TO RAISE RATES, LOWER RATES, THE MONITOR THE BUDGET.
NOTHING CHANGES OTHER THAN THAT BOTTOM LITTLE BAR RIGHT THERE WERE SO SHERIFFS DEPARTMENT PSEC DIVISION.
CURRENTLY IT'S THE RIVERSIDE COUNTY IT.
EVEN THOUGH WITH A BIG, TH METER USERS WE HAVE ON SINGULAR VOTE AND THE OTHER AGENCIES AS WELL AND OTHER MUNICIPAL AGENCIES DO AS WELL.
ULTIMATELY THE RATES ARE APPROVED BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
AGAIN, WE HAVE A LOT MORE FLEXIBILITY UNDER THE SHERIFFS DEPARTMENT AND WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT BASICALLY RUNNING THE SYSTEM.
SO, HERE'S YOUR CURRENT ERICA COST THIS AND AS WELL AS THE CITY OF INDIO.
THESE WERE CALCULATED LAST SUMMER.
DID A PRESENTATION TO THE ERICA BOARD BACK IN OCTOBER.
THIS IS BASED UPON THE INFORMATION WE HAD AT THE TIME.
THE OPERATING COST RELATE TO RUN YOUR DAILY OPERATION JUST UNDER $1.2 MILLION.
THIS COST IS DONE NOT DIVIDED UNDER ALL 5 ERICA AGENCIES.
WE HAVE 3 CITIES WITH INDIO INCLUDED THAT HAVE BOND DEBT LEFT FROM THE ORIGINAL SYSTEM.
AND THAT'S ROUGHLY ABOUT 131,000 PER CITY AND I BELIEVE YOU HAVE 2 PAYMENTS LEFT.
THAT WOULD BE THE CITY OF INDIO.
SO DOES IT DOES OR HOT SPRINGS OF PALM SPRINGS AS WELL.
ONCE THAT BOND DEBT IS PAID OFF THEN THE USER RATES THAN YOUR BACK DOWN TO THE 1.2 BECAUSE RIGHT NOW YOU'RE ESSENTIALLY AT ABOUT 1.6 OPERATING COST BECAUSE
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OF THE BOND DEBT THAT THE 3 CITIES HOUSE.SO, HERE'S HOW YOU BREAK DOWN YOUR COST WITHIN THE ERICA MODEL RIGHT HERE.
YOU GOT YOUR LEASE, YOUR LOGIN RECORDER, EVERY SERVICE USE AGREEMENT WITH MOTOROLA THAT IS REQUIRED.
THAT KEEPS YOUR DISPATCH, YOUR MCC 500 DISPATCH EQUIPMENT BASICALLY UP-TO-DATE.
THOSE TYPE OF THINGS LIKE THAT VICTOR PAID FOR.
INSTEAD OF PAYING TIME AND MATERIALS OF SOMETHING GOES WRONG.
TECH SUPPORT IS INCLUDED IN THE GENERAL OPERATIONS.
THIS IS WHAT YOU CURRENTLY PAYING RIGHT NOW.
BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE EXTRA LEASE.
SO, HERE'S ONE OPTION MAINTAINING YOUR ERICA JPA.
IF ALL 5 CITIES TO THIS SIDE TO STAY THE JPA IT'S BASED UPON COSCO UP IF PEOPLE JUMP OUT AND GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE BROUGHT IS YOUR UPGRADE COST ESTIMATE.
YOU'RE GONNA NEED RADIOS AS YOUR CITY MANAGER MENTIONED.
WHETHER YOU STAY IN ERICA OR YOU GO TO PSEC YOU WILL NEED TO BUY NEW END-USER RADIO EQUIPMENT.
WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS EITHER THE MOBILE RADIOS THE ONES THAT GO IN THE CARS OR THE ONES THAT ARE ON THE BELT.
THE BASICALLY THE HANDHELD RADIOS THAT ARE ON EACH OF THE OFFICERS DUTY BELTS.
WHETHER OR NOT ONE OR THE OTHER IF YOU INVEST IN ERICA YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET NEW RADIO EQUIPMENT.
IF YOU DECIDE TO STAY WITH ERICA ROUGHLY IT WILL HAVE TO UPGRADE ALL YOUR TOWERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THEN SPLIT IT UP AMONGST THE 5 CITIES.
IT'S ESTIMATED MOTOROLA GIVING AN ESTIMATE TO CARRY WITH ERICA AND SAID HEY, IT'S ROUGHLY GOING TO BE 4.5 MILLION.
IF YOU SPLIT THAT UP 5 WAYS JUST UNDER $1 MILLION THAT EACH OF THE CITIES WOULD HAVE TO INVEST IN ORDER TO KEEP THE SYSTEM UP AND GOING.
THAT'S A ONE TIME COST BUT YOU'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE YOUR LONG-TERM OPERATIONAL COST.
SO, I REACHED OUT TO CHIEF WASHBURN AND SAID HOW MANY RADIOS DO YOU CURRENTLY HAVE AND HOW MANY WOULD YOU NEED IF YOU CAME ON ERICA? AND THAT BOTTOM LINE THERE, IT WOULDN'T POTENTIALLY NEED 60 RADIOS THAT YOU HAVE BECAUSE WHEN YOU CONTRACT OUT FOR OUR DEPUTIES OR OTHER AGENCIES THAT ARE NOT ERICA TO COME WORK COACHELLA OR ANY OF THE LARGE FESTIVALS ARE HAVING TO GIVE THEM A RADIO BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ON ERICA.
YOU'RE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY IN THE CAPITAL OF EXTRA RADIOS JUST TO UP SOMEBODY TO YOUR SYSTEM.
IF YOU GO TO PSEC OUR DEPUTIES ARE TO HAVE THEIR OWN RADIOS THEY COULD JUST CHECK IN IN YOUR COMMAND CENTER AND BE POSITIONED WHEREVER YOU NEED THEM.
SWITCH TO WHATEVER CHANNEL IT IS.
YOU WOULDN'T HAVE A NEED TO BUY AS MANY RADIOS UNDER THE PSEC FORMULA AS YOU WOULD IF YOU MAINTAINED AND STAYED WITH ERICA.
THE COST OF THE OVERALL RADIO GOES DOWN.
WHEN I SHOWED YOU THIS COST HERE OF YOUR END-USER RADIO IT MAY GO DOWN BECAUSE YOU DECIDED NOT TO BUY AS MANY IN USERS FOR YOUR DEPARTMENT.
THESE ARE ROUGH ESTIMATES AS FAR AS WHAT THE COST ARE.
WHO CONTROLS THIS IS A SEPARATE NEGOTIATION WITH MOTOROLA.
WE PUT WORST-CASE SCENARIO SO YOU COULD KNOW.
SO, YOUR CURRENT OPERATING COST.
IF YOU DECIDED TO STAY WITH ERICA THEN YOU WOULD TAKE THIS 214,000 AND THIS IS TIMES AND MULTIPLY IT BY 5 KNOTS WITH THE COST OF THE BASICALLY A 7 YEAR PAYMENT PROCESS TO PAY BACK TO MOTOROLA FOR THAT 4.5 MILLION.
AS MENTIONED IN YOUR COUNSEL REPORT IF ONE CITY DROPS OUT THEN YOU CAN ADD ANOTHER 60,000 ONTO IT AND THEN YOU'RE NOT DIVIDING IT UP BY 4.
IF A SECOND CITY DROPS OUT YOUR INCREASING THOUGHT COST SPREAD OF MONKS 3 AGENCIES AND SO ON.
THERE'S AN ALL INFORMATION ON HERE BUT I'LL GO SLOWLY.
SO, LET'S SAY YOU WANTED TO COME OVER IN JULY.
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YOU MIGHT NOT BE FEASIBLE TIMING WISE AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.WE INCLUDED THAT AS AN OPTION.
YOU HAVE ABOUT $2.2 MILLION OF RADIOS YOU WOULD HAVE TO BUY.
LIKE I SAID THE SCREEN IN THE MIDDLE IS ALMOST THE SAME THING RIGHT HERE.
YOU WOULD HAVE TO PAY THE 2.2 MILLION WHETHER OR NOT YOU STAYED WITH ERICA OR YOU WENT TO PSEC.
HERE'S YOUR JPA COST CURRENTLY ROUGHLY.
YOU HAVE THE DEPTH THAT HAS BEEN MENTIONED BEFORE.
IF 2 MORE PAYMENTS (AND I PUT A 3 PERCENT RATE INCREASE IN HERE THAT GENERALLY GOES UP 3 PERCENT FROM 239 TO 8 22 2 247 ANOTHER 3 PERCENT.
IT'S NOT GUARANTEED BUT IT'S A COST ESTIMATE.
IF YOU DECIDED THAT YOU WANTED TO LIVED IN BOTH WORLDS.
IF YOU WANTED TO HEY WE WANT TO GO TO PSEC BUT WERE STUCK STICKING WITH ERICA BECAUSE THE OTHER CITIES.
NO ONE CAN LEAVE EARLY UNTIL THE DEBT IS PAID OFF OR WHATEVER THE AGREEMENT IS BETWEEN THE 5 CITIES.
IT WOULD BE PROBABLY A VERY EXPENSIVE OPTION FOR YOU.
I WANTED TO PUT IT IN THERE JUST TO SAY HEY, IT IS A POSSIBILITY.
IN ORDER TO DO THAT YOU WOULD NEED $165,000 ONE TIME.
THIS 165,000 YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO PAY THAT TO UPGRADE YOUR 7500'S TO LATEST UPGRADE.
THIS IS A MOTOROLA COURT YOUR DISPATCH CENTER.
IT'S A ONE-TIME UPGRADE BECAUSE I BELIEVE THE VERSION ALL THE ERICA AGENCIES ARE ON OR MAYBE ABOUT 2 YEARS BEHIND AND THEY WOULD NEED TO BE UPGRADED TO THE MOST RECENT SOFTWARE VERSION.
THIS 165 WHETHER YOU CAME IN THIS YEAR OR 22 Â" 23 OR 23 Â" 24.
THAT FIGURE WOULD SLIDE DOWN THIS COLUMN OR WHATEVER YEAR YOU DECIDED TO COME OVER TO PSEC.
IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.
RIGHT NOW I MENTIONED THE PSEC RATES ARE HUNDRED AND 47 AND CHANGE.
THAT'S AT THE 25 PERCENT RATE.
IF YOU CAME OVER AND 21 Â" 22.
HOWEVER WE PUT IN A 10 PERCENT REDUCTION IN THE RATES.
I'M CONVINCED IT WILL GO DOWN EVEN GREATER THAN THAT BUT I THOUGHT OKAY OR TO KEEP A VERY CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE BUT I BET IT WILL GO DOWN EVEN FASTER THAN THAT ESPECIALLY WHEN WE THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT CAN CONTROL THE COST THIS IN THE RATES.
WE WON'T REALLY KNOW UNTIL THIS NEXT YEAR 21 Â" 22 UNTIL WE START LOOKING UNDER THE HOOD AND UNDERSTANDING A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HOW THE BUSINESS OF PSEC HAS BEEN OPERATING WE CAN ABSORB MANY OF THOSE COST.
WHEN YOU EVENTUALLY GO AN REMEMBER A COUPLE SLIDES BACK YOUR PAIN ABOUT A $77,000 MOTOROLA SC WAY THROUGH ERICA RIGHT NOW.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT CHEAPER UNDER PSEC, NOT THAT MUCH.
THE FIRST YEAR IS ALWAYS FREE THEN IT GOES UP FROM THERE.
I'M GONNA PUT ABOUT A 3 PERCENT WRITER.
IF YOU DECIDED, IF YOU WANTED TO GO TO PSEC AND YOU COULD GET AN ERICA IT WOULD COST YOU 312,000.
IF YOU NEED TO STAY BOTH WORLDS FOR WHATEVER REASON IT PRACTICALLY DOUBLES OR IF NOT MORE THE PRICE.
YOU CAN SEE AS YOU SLIDE DOWN THE PRICES BECOME VERY SIMILAR.
THIS IS BASED UPON ALL 5 AGENCIES.
THIS IS UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT ALL 5 STAY.
IF NOT THE PRICE OF THE ERICA ONLY ONLY GOES UP ABOUT $60,000 OR MORE PER YEAR.
AS MENTIONED BEFORE THIS 257 RIGHT HERE IS BASED UPON YOU BUYING NEW END-USER RADIO EQUIPMENT FOR THE NEXT, IF YOU BUY IT NOW, RIGHT NOW MOTOROLA HAS A BUY IT NOW PROGRAM WHERE IF YOU BUY IT NOW YOU PAY LATER.
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IF YOU BUY IT LATER YOUR ALSO PAY LATER.RIGHT NOW AGAIN I'M NOT A MOTOROLA SALESPERSON.
EVERYTHING IS MOTOROLA OUT THERE.
THEY ARE WANTING TO COME TO GET EVERYBODY INTO THE EQUIPMENT AND THEY PUT SOMETHING OUT COUNTYWIDE TO ALL POLICE AGENCIES IN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT THAT IS BASICALLY 2 YEARS OF PAYMENTS INTEREST RATE.
WHETHER OR NOT YOU STAY IN ERICA OR YOU GO TO PSEC EVITE NEW END-USER RADIO EQUIPMENT YOU CAN ACQUIRE IT NOW AND PAY FOR IT LATER AT ZERO INTEREST.
AND IT'S A PROGRAM THEY AR OFFERING RIGHT NOW.
AS CHIEF WASHBURN MENTIONED THIS 209,000, ALL THE POLICE CHIEFS IN THE COUNTY GOT TOGETHER LAST YEAR AND SAYS LOVE, WE WANT EACH OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, EACH OF THAT ERICA CHIEFS WE WANT SURE AGENCIES TO COME INTO PSEC.
THIS IS DISTRIBUTED AMONGST LAW ENFORCEMENT, A COUPLE MILLION DOLLARS ACROSS A LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES COUNTYWIDE.
ALL THE OTHER POLICE CHIEF SAID LOOK, WERE GONNA TAKE A ZERO BECAUSE WE WANT THE 5 ERICA AGENCIES TO REAP THE BENEFITS OF THIS GRANT AND SO THE 5 ERICA CHIEFS CAME UP WITH A FORMULA BASED UPON A PER OFFICER STAFFING AND THEY WILL BE THE RECIPIENTS OF THE GRANTS THAT WOULD OFF SENT THE PURCHASE OF THE END-USER RADIO EQUIPMENT FOR THE CITY OF INDIO.
AND THEY MADE A COMMITMENT THAT WHEN THE GRANT COMES AROUND NEXT YEAR THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT AGAIN.
FOR 2 YEARS THEY PLAN ON GIVING EACH OF THE ERICA AGENCIES MONIES TO BUY AND OFFSET THE RADIO PURCHASES.
THEY DID THAT SEVERAL YEARS AGO WITH HAMMETT TO GET THEM ON BOARD TO COME ONTO THE SYSTEM AS WELL TOO.
THE CUTS ARE 2.2 MILLION THERE BOUTS OF END-USER RADIO EQUIPMENT KNOCKS ABOUT 400,000 OFF OF IT.
THERE MAY BE SOME OTHER INCENTIVES THAT MOTOROLA COULD KNOCK MAYBE ANOTHER $400,000 OR MORE OR SO.
THAT 2.2 MILLION IS REALLY AN INFLATED NUMBER.
AGAIN, WHETHER YOU STICK WITH ERICA OR COME TO TREND 16 YOU WILL PAY ONE WAY SHAPE OR ANOTHER.
SO YOUR AGENCY MAINTENANCE COST LIKE I MENTIONED AREN'T INCLUDED.
IF YOU GO BACK HERE THE SMALL UMBRELLA SC WAY, EACH AGENCY HAS IT DISPATCH CENTER PAYS THIS SEPARATELY OUTSIDE OF PSEC.
PEABODY, EACH POLICE AGENCY PAYS THAT AMOUNT.
I JUST PUT THE 3 PERCENT WRITER AND THAT'S WHY CAME UP WITH THE NUMBERS JUST STEADILY INCREASED YEAR TO YEAR DEPENDING ON WHAT YEAR YOU COME OVER.
I MENTIONED ABOUT THE GRANT FUNDING.
SO THE TENTATIVELY THE TOTAL AMOUNT IS 837 THOUSAND.
OF THAT INDIO PRETTY MUCH I THINK IT'S THE LARGEST SHARE.
CHIEF WASHBURN CAN CONFIRM THAT.
THAT'S BASED UPON THE SIZE OF THE AGENCY IN COMPARISON TO THE OTHER 4.
SO SOME OF THE DECISION CONSIDERATION POINTS AND THIS IS YET TO BE UNKNOWN.
WILL ALL AGENCIES REMAIN IN ERICA? I DID A PRESENTATION FOR CATHEDRAL CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT AND I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THEM.
THEY SEEM VERY INTERESTED IN COMING OVER TO PSEC.
THEN HOW WOULD IT BE DISSOLVED? WHAT POINT IN TIME? THE LAST PART OF THE DEBT IS PAID OFF OF FROM THE AGENCIES IN 2 YEARS AND GIVES SOME FLEXIBILITY FOR THOSE AGENCIES TO EITHER STAY OR GO.
THEN AS I MENTIONED BEFORE THE MOTOROLA RIGHT NOW THEY'RE OFFERING INCENTIVE THING TILL THE END OF JUNE.
TO BUY NEW END-USER RADIO EQUIPMENT.
I KNOW DOESN'T HOT SPRINGS THEIR CHIEF REACH OUT TO ME.
THEY'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THAT AND BUYING SOME EQUIPMENT.
IN FACT THEY BOUGHT SOME RADIOS FROM US THAT WERE EXTRAS.
SO IT'LL WORK UNDER THE ERICA SYSTEM RIGHT NOW.
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IT'S A MATTER OF REPROGRAMMING THOSE NEW RADIOS IN ERICA AS THEY STAY IN ERICA.I BELIEVE I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THEM.
THEY SEEM VERY INTERESTED IN PSEC AS WELL TOO.
WITH THAT I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS ANYBODY HAS.
WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS AND QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT?
>> HAVE A QUESTION FOR COUNCILMEMBER FURMON.
IN YOUR ERICA MEETINGS IS THERE A SENSE OF WHAT THE OTHER CITIES WERE LOOKING AT?
>> I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THEM BUT I THINK THE IMPORTANCE IS THE COLLECTIBILITY IN OUR COMMUNITY ESPECIALLY AS I WE GROW AND HAVE OUR FESTIVALS.
WE ALL PARTICIPATE MUTUAL AID.
I THINK OLIVER AGENCIES RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF CONNECT ABILITY.
LAST THE CHIEF TO ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT ON THE PROCESS OF PATCHING AND WHAT THAT ACTUALLY MEANS AND THE IMPORTANCE OF WHEN WE DO HAVE EMERGENCIES.
WHETHER IT'S A RESPONSE OR OFFICER SAFETY ISSUE.
HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS AND HOW PATCHING CAN BE AN ISSUE OR A TIME ISSUE AS A RESPONSE AND ALSO CROSSING JURISDICTIONS WITH THE RADIOS AND SWITCHING CHANNELS AND HAVING TO DO THAT IN AN EMERGENCY.
HOW PSEC ACTUALLY WORKS TO OUR ADVANTAGE IF WE MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION.
>> SOME I FIRST ARRIVED HERE FROM WASHINGTON STATE.
THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE MEETING RIVERSIDE THOUGHT MY READING WAS BROKEN.
SO I GET BACK TO INDIA WHEN I ASKED WHAT'S THE DEAL? WE DON'T HAVE COVERAGE.
I CAN DRIVE THE WHOLE STATE OF WASHINGTON NEVER LOSE RADIO COVERAGE.
RIVERSIDE COUNTY IS BEHIND THE APRIL WITH NOT BEING IN OPERABLE ACROSS THE ENTIRE REGION.
THAT'S A BIG DEAL WHEN ALL OF OUR CONCERTS, WE LITERALLY HAVE TO LOAN A ERICA RADIO TO SOMEONE THAT ALREADY HAS A RADIO ON THE HIP BECAUSE IT'S UNINTELLIGIBLE.
WE'VE GOT THE CONSTANT NOISE, WE'VE GOT THE AIR PLUG-IN.
THE RUNNING JOKE IS ANYTIME WE NEED TO TALK TO OUR FO ON A HOT CALL THAT THEY ARE DEALING WITH AND VICE VERSA AND ASPIRATE MUTUAL AID IT'S LIKE TALKING WITH A STRING INTO TIN CANS.
YOU CAN EVEN TELL WHAT THEY'RE SAYING.
DEPENDING ON THE AREA YOU ARE IN, IT'S VERY PROBLEMATIC.
WHAT'S HAPPENING IS ONE, THERE PICKING UP ONE RADIO SYSTEM TO ANOTHER WITHOUT THAT DIRECT CONNECTION.
IT'S KINDA LIKE, EAT HERE THAT ECHO WHEN MARK GOT HIS THING ON AND WERE HERE AND IT WAS LIVE AND ECHOING AND DRIVING YOU NUTS.
SOMEONE'S AT RISK AND I CAN'T TELL WHAT THEY NEED.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ANSWERS THAT QUESTION.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL THE VERY LARGE EVENTS, VERY LARGE CATASTROPHES ACROSS OUR NATION THAT INVOLVED POLICE AND EMERGENCY SERVICES.
THEY ALWAYS TALK ABOUT THE PROBLEM WITH INTEROPERABILITY.
AGAIN WITH OUR CONCERTS COME UP WITH THE FACT THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY CITIES CONNECTED TO US.
THAT SPEAK ON THE SAME RADIO SYSTEM.
THAT IS A PROBLEM FOR US AND A PROBLEM FOR THEM.
>> OKAY COUNSIL MEMBER AMITH HAS HER HAND RAISED.
>> OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR MR. DASH IN THE ROOM?
>> CAN HE REMIND US HOW WE INITIALLY PURCHASE THEY ARE CONSISTENT AND IF THERE IS STILL AN OUTSTANDING BALANCE? I WASN'T SURE IF WE BONDED FOR THE CAPITAL INVESTMENT BUT, I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT I GUESS COMPLETE CAPITAL IS INTO THE PROGRAM AND IF WE STILL OWE ANY MINING ON THE SYSTEM.
>> THE ORIGINAL JOINT VENTURE FOR THE BACKBONE WAS ALMOST A $6 MILLION COST THAT WAS SHARED AMONGST THE AGENCIES.
SOME AGENCIES BOUGHT OUT EARLY.
3 OF THE 5 HAVE OBLIGATIONS THAT CONTINUE FOR THE 2 YEARS INTO THE FUTURE.
IT'S ON THE BOND PER SOUTHEAST.
THOSE CALLS ARE MOSTLY PAID OFF.
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AGAIN A COUPLE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD BUT, TO AVOID THE PATCHING AND THE SYSTEM HAS TO BE UPGRADED.THE RADIOS AND BACKBONE HAVE TO BE UPGRADED.
THERE ARE TECHNICAL, THERE ARE WAYS YOU CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT OF COURSE IT WOULD REQUIRE ERICA TO INCUR MORE DEBT, MORE LEASE DEBT OVE SEVERAL YEAR TERM.
WE ARE AT A POINT NOW WHERE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO COMMIT AS ERICA TOMORROW DEBT AND UPGRADE THE INFRASTRUCTURE OR MOVE OVER TO THE PSEC SYSTEM.
>> OKAY MY SECOND QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE JPA'S RECOMMENDATION?
>> THAT'S AN INTERESTING POINT.
I THINK WHEN PRO TEM FERMON CAN CONTESTED THIS.
ERICA IS STAGNANT ON THIS ISSUE.
THERE'S A BROTHERHOOD OF CITY AGENCIES AND POLICE AGENCIES THAT DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO UNNECESSARILY PLACE BURDENS ON THE OTHER BECAUSE THEY KNOW ONCE THEY UPGRADE AND IF ANY AGENCY OPTS OUT THE REST THE AGENCIES ARE BURDENED WITH THAT FINANCIAL OBLIGATION.
EVEN NOW THERE'S A HESITATION FOR THE FIRST AGENCY TO OPT OUT.
CATHEDRAL CITY HAS MOVED FORWARD ON A STUDY OF THIS PERIOD WERE NOT BRINGING THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION BECAUSE THERE IS SOME POLITICAL SENSITIVITY THERE ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS TO THE OTHER AGENCIES.
BASICALLY WANTED TO AGENCY OPTS OUT THAT DOESN'T LEAVE MUCH OF AN OPTION FOR THE OTHER AGENCIES.
IT WILL BE TO COSTLY FOR THEM TO UPGRADE ERICA AND THE TOO WILL LIKELY HAVE TO MOVE OVER TO THE PSEC SYSTEM.
>> FOR MY RECOLLECTION THERE IS A CLAUSE IN THE JPA AGREEMENT FOR AN AGENCY THAT WANTS TO BACK OUT OF THE AGREEMENT.
I WOULD RATHER THAT CONSENSUS BE BROUGHT TOGETHER AT THE JPA THEN FOR US AT THE CITY TO REALLY GIVE ANY DIRECTION ON WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
WE NEED TO WORK WITH OUR PARTNER AGENCIES FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE JPA AND ITS FUTURE.
IF THERE ARE STILL ENTITIES AND I'M NOT SURE THERE ARE THERE MAY ONLY BE IN BRI.
THEY NEED TO FIGURE OUT AMONGST THEM WHAT THE CONSENSUS IS.
NEXT CHIEF, OBVIOUSLY THE NEW SYSTEM WOULD BE AN ADVANTAGE TO US AND OTHER AGENCIES.
I AGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER AMITH.
WHAT SITUATION DO YOU THINK IS GOING TO BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY OF INDIO? IT'S A NEW SYSTEM WHERE YOU THINK WE NEED TO BE.
IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE TO BUY THE RADIOS MATTER WHAT THE $2 MILLION INVESTMENT IS A $2 MILLION INVESTMENT IT DEPENDS ON THE BACKBONE OF WHAT WE USE OR WHAT SYSTEM WE USE.
IF WE CAN'T GET CONSENSUS FROM OTHER ONES ARE THEY STUCK WITH ERICA FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME? OR WHERE DO WE SIT ON THAT?
>> ROBIN AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS A NUMBER OF TIMES.
THE BEST SCENARIO IS WE ACTUALLY MAKE THE DECISION THAT WE WANT TO JUST DISBAND THE JPA AND WE DO THAT AS A GROUP BECAUSE WE STILL LIQUIDATE ASSETS AND THAT SORT OF THING.
WE DON'T WANT TO LEAVE ANY FIRM FELLOW CITIES WITH CATHEDRAL CITY GOING DOWN THAT ROAD.
THEY HAVE TO GIVE A ONE YEAR NOTICE.
AND I KNOW HOW THE OTHER CHIEFS FEEL.
EVEN IF WE INVEST IN AMERICA IT WILL NEVER BE A PSEC.
WITH PSEC YOU HAVE GEOGRAPHIC DIVERSITY AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS IF THE UNDER SHERIFF CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
THE MAIN HUB IN RIVERSIDE IF THEY HAVE SEISMIC EVENT THAT TAKES DOWN OFF-LINE EVERYTHING AUTOMATICALLY SWITCHES OUT TO BLYTHE.
BUT SOMETHING WE WILL NEVER HAVE WITH ERICA.
SO WERE PRONE TO SEISMIC EVENTS.
WE HAVE AS ROB SAID WE REALLY STAGNATED.
WHETHER WE INVEST IN ERICA OR MOVE FORWARD AND START TRANSITIONING OUT, THAT'S A LOT OF WORK TO DO.
IT SEEMS LIKE WE'VE BEEN SPINNING OUR WHEELS FOR A COUPLE YEARS.
>> I THINK WE SHOULD GO TO PSEC MYSELF BECAUSE THE CONTINUITY WITH OTHER AGENCIES.
WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CONCERTS AND THE INVESTMENTS WE HAVE AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING IN.
ONE LIFE, WHAT IS IT WORTH? I AM MORE THAN HAPPY TO GO DOWN THAT ROAD.
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I JUST THINK WE NEED TO FIND THE FINANCIAL SOLUTION SO WE DON'T LEAVE ANYBODY ELSE.CATHEDRAL CITY SOUNDS LIKE THE MOVIE THAT WAY AND I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE THAT WAY AND HOW DO WE MAKE IT OPTIMAL SO THE OTHER TO THE AGENCIES HANGING SO WE GET WHAT WE WANT.
I'D RATHER DO IT SOONER THAN LATER.
RATHER JOIN IT MYSELF PERSONALLY SOONER THAN LATER.
SOUNDS TO ME WORKING INVEST MONEY IN ERICA ERICA THAT RUN THROUGHOUT IF WE DON'T MAKE A DECISION SOON.
I THINK THE THING IS TO GET NEAR PRO TEM FERMON AND YOU TO SAINT REPUBLICAN MOVE.
HOW DO WE MAKE IT SO WE CAN BREAK THIS DOWN WHAT'S IT GOING TO COST AND WHERE DOES EVERYBODY SIT? THEN IF THEY DON'T WANT TO GO OUR WAY AND THEN WE HAVE TO GO OUT ON HER OWN.
THEY'RE MAKING THE DECISION FOR THEM.
WE NEED TO MAKE THE DECISION FOR US.
JUST SO I COULD HELP GET MY ARMS AROUND THIS.
THE UPGRADES REALLY ARE IN FREQUENCY AND THE ACTUAL RADIO EQUIPMENT.
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL DOLLARS THAT NEED TO BE SPENT IN OUR DISPATCH CENTER TO BRING IT UP TO SPEED?
JUST THE 165 INITIAL SOFTWARE UPGRADE THAT ONE TIME.
>> OUR RADIO COUNT, A CURRENT MODEL WE DON'T DOESN'T MATTER HOW MANY RADIOS WE HAVE RIGHT NOW WITH ERICA.
IF I GO TO TRISH RAY AND SAY BY THE WAY THE NEW COST IS X PER RADIO.
WERE GONNA START LOOKING AT DO WE REALLY NEED ALL THOSE RADIOS? I BELIEVE WE CAN REDUCE THAT $200 FIGURE BY ANOTHER 50.
DOES EVERYBODY NEED A RADIO IN THEIR CAR IF YOU'RE IW A AS WELL IS ON YOUR HIP? PROBABLY NOT.
IT DIDN'T COST US ANY MORE TO DO THAT UNDER A PAY PER MONTH IT CERTAINLY WOULD.
>> IDEALLY GIVEN EVERYTHING IT'S NOT JUST THE CONCERTS BUT WHAT OCCURS IS THE 49 WEEKS OF THE YEAR AMONGST ALL THE CITIES RIVERSIDE COUNTY WIDE IT MAKES SENSE TO ME WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO TALK TO OUR PARTNERS IN CRIME WHETHER THERE ARE OTHER PLEASE DEPARTMENT TO THE COACHELLA DEPARTMENT O THE RIVERSIDE DEPARTMENT.
WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM THE COUNCIL AT THIS POINT AND WHAT OUR POTENTIAL NEXT STEPS?
>> WE WANT TO MAKE SURE TH COUNCIL WAS AWARE OF THIS ISSUE AND DECISION POINT THAT'S COMING.
AS YOU MENTIONED BECAUSE OF THE STAGNATION THE UNCERTAINTY GETTING SOME SENSE OF WHERE THE CITY COUNCIL WANTS TO GO.
HELPS MOVE THIS PROCESS FORWARD.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A REMINDER TO THE OTHER CITIES AND IT REAFFIRMS THE CHIEF'S DESIRE TO GO TO PSEC.
THIS WILL HELP THE DIALOGUE THE ERICA LEVEL WHEN MORE CITIES LOOKING AT THIS OPTION.
I THINK YOUR SUPPORT IF IT IS TO MOVE TO PSEC WILL HELP THE PROCESS ALONG AND FORCE AGENCIES WHO ARE STILL ON THE BORDERLINE TO COMMIT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
>> I WOULD SAY WE REALLY WANTED TO PLANT NEAR PRO TEM HERE EXACTLY WHAT YOUR GUYS HIS THOUGHTS WERE.
BECAUSE TO SOME EXTENT THOSE CONVERSATIONS HAVE NOT TAKEN PLACE AT THE ERICA MEETINGS.
>> I GUESS I WOULD ASK THE REST OF THE COUNCIL REALLY BORE A VERBAL COMMENT AS TO THE EXTENT OF YOUR SUPPORT.
CANCER NUMBER ORTIZ? BOOKS I THINK THAT SOUNDS GOOD.
JUST TO MAKE SURE WERE ON THE SAME PAGE IT'S TO TRY TO DISBAND THE JPA WITH THE OTHER GROUPS AND THEN IF THAT DOESN'T WORK WE WILL MOVE FORWARD EITHER WAY TO PSEC.
>> COUNCILMEMBER AMITH DO WANT TO REITERATE YOUR COMMENTS?
>> INITIALLY WE WERE THE INITIATORS OF THE JPA FOR THE ERICA BECAUSE THEY WERE DRAGGING THEIR FEET FOR THE INNER OPERATIONAL SYSTEM.
AT THE TIME WE HOPED THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE VALLEY CITIES WOULD JOIN TOGETHER AND WE WOULD FIND SOME TYPE OF INTERCONNECTION WITH TH REST OF THE COUNTY.
SADLY THAT HASN'T HAPPENED AND I THINK IT'S BEEN 15 YEARS NOW THAT WE'VE HAD ERICA.
WELL KNOW TECHNOLOGY IS OL AND HAS AN ANTIQUATED AS WE RECEIVED IT.
I THINK WE DID THE BEST WE COULD 15 YEARS AGO AND TODAY'S OPTIONS THAT ARE BEING PRESENTED SEE MUCH MORE VIABLE AND CERTAINLY ADDRESS THE FACT THAT THE
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ISSUE WE'VE HAD WITH NOT BEING ABLE TO COMMUNICATE THROUGH THE ENTIRE COUNTY AND BEYOND.I'VE BEEN SUPPORT OUR MEMBER OF THE JPA MOVING FORWARD WITH MOVING AWAY FROM THE ERICA SYSTEM.
>> I GUESS I DON'T HAVE A CHOICE NOW.
>> FIRST OF ALL UNDERSHERIFF RIBBON FOR THE PRESENTATION.
IT'S A LOT OF NUMBERS AND TECHNICAL THINGS BUT WHAT IT BOILS DOWN TO MORE OPERATING RIGHT NOW ON A DIAL-UP SYSTEM AND PSEC IS HIGH WIRED WI-FI.
THAT'S AN IMPORTANT IN THIS DAY AND AGE.
THE CONNECT ABILITY WITH OUR NEIGHBORING AGENCIES AND ALSO IN CASE OF EMERGENCY.
SOMETIMES WE PLAN FOR WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN BUT WHEN THAT DOES HAPPEN WE WANT TO BE PREPARED AND COMMUNICATION IS OPTIMAL AND EVERY EMERGENCY AND SO I HIGHLY SUPPORT IT.
AND I'M WILLING TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S A TOUCHY SUBJECT WHEN YOU DISBAND A JPA.
I THINK THIS IS DONE OUT OF NECESSITY IS NOT JUST SOMETHING THAT WERE DOING JUST BECAUSE.
WITH THAT BEING SAID WHEN THE CHIEF AND ROB AND I GO BACK OUT TO OUR MEETINGS WE WILL BE HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR NEIGHBOR CITIES.
>> I WAS JUST SAYING YOU'RE WELCOME AND GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN COUNCILMAN FERMON.
>> I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE WHAT YOU NEED ROB AND CHIEF.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.
AT THIS POINT IT'S 4:30 ON THE NOSE AND WE WILL CLOSE THE STUDY SESSION AND MOVED TO REOPEN THE CLOSED SESSION.
BEAR WITH US LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.