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>> LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, MY NAME IS JACQUELINE LOPEZ.

[1. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL]

[00:00:04]

I CALL THE MEETING OF MAY 12, 2021 TO ORDER.

I WOULD LIKE TO ANNOUNCE A QUORUM.

IF I CAN PLEASE HAVE ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

>> CHAIRPERSON JACQUELINE LOPEZ.

>> PRESENT.

>> VICE CHAIRPERSON NICCO YSIANO.

>> PRESENT.

>> COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ CEJA.

COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ CEJA.

>> PRESENT.

>> COMMISSIONER GLORIA FRANZ.

>> PRESENT.

>> THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, EVELYN.

NOW IF I CAN PLEASE HAVE THE INTRODUCTION OF STAFF.

>> GOOD EVENING, MADAME CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

TONIGHT'S STAFF INCLUDES DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR MR. KEVIN SNYDER, EVELYN BELTRAN SECRETARY.

JASON ANDERSON, OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT MANAGER.

RAY TREJO, OUR ASSISTANT MANAGER TO THE IWA.

REBECCA WINSCOTT, OUR INTERIM FIRE MARSHAL.

AND MYSELF, LEILA NAMVAR, SENIOR PLANNER.

THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

AND AT THIS TIME WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND START WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

IF I CAN PLEASE HAVE -- WHO AM I GOING TO ASK TODAY? LET'S HAVE VICE CHAIR YSIANO IF YOU CAN PLEASE LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

>> YES, CERTAINLY.

PLEASE JOIN ME IN SAYING OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF THE AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>> THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR.

>> THANK YOU.

>> AND AT THIS TIME WE HAVE A STATEMENT FROM OUR COMMISSION SECRETARY >> THE

[4. STATEMENT FROM THE COMMISSION SECRETARY]

GENERAL RULES OF COURTESY FOR VIRTUAL MEETINGS ARE FOLLOWS.

PLEASE BE MINDFUL OF BACKGROUND NOISE WHEN JOINING THE VIRTUAL MEETING.

YOU MUST MUTE ALL LIVE STREAMING DEVICES TO AVOID FEEDBACK WHEN SPEAKING.WHEN THEY ARE NOT SPEAKING.

PARTICIPANTS MUST MUTE THEIR MICROPHONE WHEN THEY ARE NOT SPEAKING.

WHEN YOUR MICROPHONE IS NOT MUTED, AVOID ACTIVITY THAT COULD CREATE ADDITIONAL NOISE.

POSITION YOUR CAMERA PROPERLY.

IF YOU CHOOSE TO USE A WEB CAMERA, BE SURE IT IS IN A STABLE POSITION AND FOCUSED AT EYE LEVEL IF POSSIBLE.

IF YOU WILL BE SHARING CONTENT DURING THE MEETING, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE FILE AND/OR LINKS READY TO GO BEFORE THE MEETING BEGINS.

MEMBERS FROM THE PUBLIC WISHING TO PROVIDE ORAL TESTIMONY MUST FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS ON THE AGENDA AND/OR ONLINE IN ORDER TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR AGENDA OR NON-RELATED AGENDA ITEMS. MEMBERS FROM THE PUBLIC WISHING TO PROVIDE ORAL TESTIMONY HAVE THREE MINUTES TO PROVIDE ORAL TESTIMONY.

[5. STATEMENT FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY]

THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, EVELYN.

AND OUR STATEMENT FROM OUR CITY ATTORNEY.

>> THANK YOU, CHAIR THERE HAVE BEEN NO DIRECTIVES ISSUED TEMPORARILY HALTING LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

PROCESSING OF LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT OF APPLICATIONS AND/OR CONSIDERATION OF POLICY ACTIONS INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENTS, ZONING CODE AAMENDMENTS AND NEW OR AMENDED SPECIFIC PLANS.

THEREFORE THE CITY OF INDIO CONTINUES TO ACCEPT AND PROCESS APPLICATIONS IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE AND LOCAL REQUIREMENTS.

THE CITY OF INDIO IS FOLLOWING GOVERNOR NEWSOM'S EXECUTIVE ORDINANCE N-25-20 AND N-29-20 PERTAINING TO THE BROWN ACT THESE EXECUTIVE ORDERS ALLOW GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES TO CONDUCT MEETINGS BY ELECTRONIC MEANS AND FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO OBSERVE THE MEETING ELECTRONICALLY AS WELL AS PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT OR PUBLIC TESTIMONY TELEPHONICALLY OTHER OTHERWISE ELECTRONICALLY.

ACCORDINGLY, THE CITY COUNCIL AND PLANNING COMMISSION ARE CURRENTLY CONDUCTING SCHEDULED MEETINGS IN A VIRTUAL MEETING FORMAT.

THE CITY OF INDIO HAS IMPLEMENTED TECHNOLOGY SOLUTIONS THAT ALLOW MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO OBSERVE, TO OFFER PUBLIC COMMENT AS WELL AS PUBLIC TESTIMONY DURING PUBLIC HEARINGS AT SCHEDULED PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS.

THE CITY IS COMMITTED TO PROVIDING PUBLIC PARTICIPATION OPPORTUNITIES WHILE ALSO COMPLYING WITH THE REQUIREMENTS FOR PROCESSING OF LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW APPLICATIONS AND/OR CONSIDERATION OF POLICY ACTIONS.

>> THANK YOU.

AND I GUESS EVELYN, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA?

>> WE DO NOT.

[7. MINUTES]

>> OKAY.

AND YOU IT LEADS TO ITEM NUMBER 7, MINUTES.

IF THE COMMISSION HAS HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE MINUTES FOR APRIL 28, 2021, AND IN DOING SO DO WIVES MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES?

>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.

>> I'LL SECOND.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER FRANZ AND VICE CHAIR.

IF WE COULD PLEASE HAVE ROLL CALL.

>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ.

>> YES.

>> VICE CHAIRPERSON YSIANO.

>> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ CEJA.

>> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER FRANZ.

>> YES.

>> MOTION CARRIES 4-0.

THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> MADAME CHAIR, MAY I ADD SOMETHING FOR THE RECORD?

>> YES.

>> I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT WE HAVE ALSO ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY WITH US TONIGHT,

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ZACH HEINSELMAN AND ALSO TRISH RHAY, OUR IWA GENERAL MANAGER.

I APOLOGIZE, THANK YOU.

>> GOOD TO HAVE YOU BACK, ZACH.

I BELIEVE NOW HEIR EVER WE'RE GOING TO GO ON TO THERE ARE NO PUBLIC HEARING

[9.1 Fiscal Year 2021-2022 Capital Improvement Program of the Indio Water Authority (IWA) - Finding of General Plan Consistency:]

ITEMS SO WE GO TO ACTION ITEMS WHICH IS A 9.1 FISCAL YEAR, THIS IS THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM OF THE WATER PROGRAM, IWA, FINDING OF GENERAL PLAN CONSISTENCY.

AND I GUESS IT'S REYMUNDO TREJO WHO WILL BE LEADING THIS REPORT, CORRECT?

>> HI.

THIS IS TRISH RHAY.

IT APPEARS THAT REY GOT DUMPED OUT OF THE WEBINAR AND IS TRYING TO GET BACK IN.

SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

SO MAYBE WE CAN SWITCH AROUND WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND GO FOR THE OTHER ITEM FIRST IF YOU HAVE ANY.

I DON'T KNOW.

THAT POSSIBLE? OR I CAN DO IT.

BUT HE DOES IT SO MUCH BETTER THAN ME.

>> I THINK WE CAN -- COULD WE WAIT A LITTLE WHILE OR HOW LONG DO YOU THINK -- >> LET ME CHECK WITH HIM.

>> OKAY.

>> AND JUST CHAR CLARIFICATION, ZACH, IF WE NEED TO MOVE THE STUDY SESSION UP TO -- AND MOVE OUR ACTION ITEM TO MOVE IT AROUND, I NEED TO MAKE A MOTION ON THAT, CORRECT?

>> YEAH, WE COULD DO A MOTION.

ONE OTHER THING WE'D WANT TO -- A MOTION WOULD BE FINE, DEPENDING ON THE ORDER, IF YOU'D LIKE TO PROPOSE TO SWAP THOSE TONIGHT.

>> IT APPEARS REY IS BACK, SO I THINK WE'RE GOOD.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

>> THANK YOU.

MR. TREJO, YOU'RE UP.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT, AND LET ME SEE IF I CAN SHARE MY SCREEN.

I'M JUST GOING TO -- OKAY.

CAN YOU SEE THAT THERE? I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE IF I CAN PUT IT ON PRESENTATION MODE AND YOU CAN SEE IT AS WELL.

>> YEAH, WE CAN SEE IT.

IT'S GOOD.

>> SO I'LL GET STARTED.

I APOLOGIZE.

I HAD TO RESTART BY COMPUTER AND NOW I'M BACK ON, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT PATIENCE.

AND WHAT I'M PRESENTING TO YOU TODAY IS THE CARRYOVER PROJECTS FROM LAST YEAR.

WE ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE ANY NEW PROJECTS THAT ARE PROPOSED SINCE OUR PLAN THAT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU LAST YEAR, BUT WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO GO OVER THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE PRESENTING.

AND THE MAIN REASON FOR NOT HAVING ANY NEW PROJECTS IS THAT THESE CARRYOVER PROJECTS, WHAT WE JUST COMPLETED THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR IS THE DESIGN, FEASIBILITY AND PLANNING STAGES OF THESE PROJECTS.

AS A QUICK OVERVIEW, WE WANTED TO JUST SHOW YOU HOW THESE PROJECTS ARE DISPERSED AROUND OUR SYSTEM, AND WHAT WE MEAN BY THAT IS THAT THERE'S PROJECTS ON THE EAST, PROJECTS ON THE CENTRAL PART OF OUR SYSTEM, AND YOU'LL SEE PROJECTS ALSO IN THE NORTHERN PART OF OUR SYSTEM.

SO I'LL GO INTO SOME DETAIL ON THESE PROJECTS AND HOW THEY ARE CONSISTENT WITH OUR GENERAL PLAN AS WELL.

THE FIRST PROJECT THAT I WANT TO COVER IS WHAT WE REFER TO AS A STORM CHANNEL CROSSING PIPELINE.

THAT'S LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF OUR SYSTEM, AND WHAT HAPPENED IN 2019, FEBRUARY OF 2019, THERE WAS A STORM THAT UNCOVERED ONE OF OUR PIPELINES, AND IT IS A PIPELINE THAT'S VERY CRITICAL THE IN SENSE THAT IT CROSSES THE CHANNEL.

AND BECAUSE OF THAT WE MADE IT A HIGH PRIORITY, SO WE HAVE ALREADY INITIATED THE DESIGN OF THIS PROJECT.

THE PROJECT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE POLICIES OF WATER SUPPLY AS WELL AS WATER FACILITIES.

THIS IS A MULTI-YEAR PROJECT, AND THE REASON WHY IT'S MULTI-YEAR IS THAT WE'RE CROSSING A CHANNEL THAT REQUIRES SEVERAL REGULATORY AGENCIES, SPECIFICALLY FEDERAL LANDS, WE'VE GOT CBWB AND THEN WE'VE GOT POSSIBLY BOR THAT WILL BE REVIEWING THE DESIGN OF THIS PROJECT.

THE NEXT PROJECT THAT I'LL DISCUSS HERE IS THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW GROUND

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WATER WELL.

WE SPECIFICALLY ARE TARGETING THE GROWTH THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING ON THE NORTHERN PART OF OUR SYSTEM, SO WE'D LIKE TO ADD 2,000 GALLONS PER MINUTE.

AGAIN, IT'S A PROJECT THAT'S A CARRYOVER PROJECT IN THE SENSE THAT WE'VE ALREADY COMPLETED A FEASIBILITY STUDY TO SITE THE WELL.

AND ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WITH THIS WELL IS THAT WE'VE GOT AN UPCOMING CHROMIUM 6 MANDATE THAT WILL SEND AN MCL, AND SO ANY TIME WE DRILL, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DRILL IN A PLACE AND A LOCATION THAT HAS THE LEAST AMOUNT OF RISK.

AGAIN, IT IS A WATER SUPPLY -- CONFORMS TO THE WATER SUPPLY AND WATER FACILITIES OF THE CITY'S GENERAL PLAN.

THE NEXT PROJECT THAT WE HAVE HERE HAS ALSO BEEN PRESENTED LAST YEAR AS OUR OVERALL PROGRAMMATIC APPROACH TO MANAGING THE CHROMIUM 6 OR WHAT'S REFERRED TO HEXAVALENT CHROMIUM.

AGAIN, CHROMIUM 6.

AND WHAT WE HAVE IS WE DO HAVE TWO FACILITIES THAT ARE A PART OF THAT PROGRAM.

WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE IN THIS PROJECT IS CONTINUE TO OPERATE TWO FACILITIES.

THE REASON WE HAVE TWO FACILITIES IS IN 2015 WE HAD A MANDATE TO LOWER THE CONCENTRATION OF CHROMIUM 6, WHICH IS VERY LOW, LOWER THAN FEDERAL STANDARDS, AND WE HAD TO LOITER SLIGHTLY, SO WE HAD TO BUILD FACILITIES.

WE'RE STILL OPERATING THE FACILITIES, AND AGAIN IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE WATER SUPPLY AND THE WATER FACILITIES OF THE GENERAL PLAN POLICIES.

AND AGAIN, THIS PROJECT WOULD BE TO UPDATE SOME OF THE RESIN, AND THE PICTURE YOU SEE IS PART OF THAT TREATMENT PROCESS, SO WE'RE GIVING THIS AN UPDATE IN TERMS OF THE TREATMENT PROCESSES THAT IT HAS SO THAT IT ADHERES TO THE ONGOING POLICIES THAT WE EXPECT FROM THE STATE EITHER LATER THIS YEAR OR EARLY NEXT YEAR.

PROJECT NUMBER 4 THAT WE HAVE HERE IS PART OF A 20 YEAR PROGRAM TO REPLACE WHAT WE REFER TO AS DRY-BARREL HYDRANTS.

TO THE MOST CURRENT HYDRANT STANDARDS TO ENSURE RELIABILITY OF THE FIRE PROTECTION.

WE'VE GOT ABOUT 300 HYDRANTS THAT WE'LL BE REPLACING OVER 20 YEAR, AND THE REASON WHY WE'RE REPLACING THESE HYDRANTS IS THEY'RE DATED.

WHEN IT COMES TO OPERATING THE HYDRANTS, A DRY-BARREL HYDRANT HAS A TENDENCY FOR ITS INTERNAL PARTS TO EITHER BREAK OR NOT RESPOND TO THE FIRE PROTECTION, MEANING THAT WHEN WE OPEN THE HYDRANT, THERE'S A CHANCE AS WE CONTINUE ON WITH THIS PROGRAM THAT IT MAY NOT FUNCTION PROPERLY.

SO WE ARE TAKING THIS PRECAUTION.

ONCE AGAIN, IT'S PART OF OUR ADHERES TO AND CONFORMS TO POLICIES ON THE WATER SUPPLY AND WATER FACILITIES OF THE GENERAL PLAN.

PROJECT NUMBER 5 IS REALLY THE CENTRAL HEART OF OUR SYSTEM, WHICH IS PLAN 2 BOOSTER PUMP STATION REPLACEMENT.

IT'S ONE OF OUR OLDEST FACILITIES, AND HERE'S A PICTURE THAT YOU WILL SEE.

AGAIN IT'S A CARRYOVER PROJECT IN THE SENSE THAT WE COMPLETED A CONDITION ASSESSMENT WHERE A CONSULTANT THAT'S VERY SPECIALIZED IN STRUCTURAL, MECHANICAL AND ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING ACTUALLY CONDUCT SEVERAL SITE VISITS.

WE HAD TO DEWATER THE RESERVOIR THAT YOU SEE IN THE BACK OF THAT PETITION TO BE SURE THAT WE INSPECT THE INTERNAL COMPOCOMPETENCE AND TAKE A LOOK TO SEE WHAT THE USEFUL LIGHT OF THAT RESERVOIR IS, AND THE CONSULTANT WOULD COME UP WITH RECOMMENDATIONS TO TELL US HOW SOON CAN WE REPLACE THAT OR IF THERE'S MEANINGFUL LIFE IN THERE SO WE CAN SAVE OUR RATEPAYERS MONEY, CONTINUE TO OPERATE, AND MAYBE HAVE MINOR REPAIRS.

AGAIN, IT FORMS TO OUR WATER SUPPLY -- CONFORMS TO OUR WATER SUPPLY POLICIES AND OUR WATER POLICIES OF THE CITY'S GENERAL PLAN.

THE NEXT PROJECT IS VERY SIMILAR.

IT'S ONE OF OUR PLANTS.

WE REFER TO THIS AS PLANT NUMBER 4 THAT'S LOCATED ON THE EASTERN PART OF OUR SYSTEM, VERY CLOSE TO THAT STORM CHANNEL FACILITY THAT WE'RE BUILDING.

SO THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING ON THIS PARTICULAR SITE IS UPGRADING ONE OF THE BOOSTER PUMPS SO THAT WE HAVE CONTINGENCY PLAN IN THE EVENT THAT ONE OF OUR BOOSTERS GOES DOWN, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A BACKUP.

AND THIS ALSO WILL HELP ENSURE THAT WE HAVE A CAPACITY OF 2200 GALLONS PER MINUTE, AND THIS WILL ALSO COINCIDE WITH THE PROJECT ON THE WESTERN PIPELINE, AND AGAIN WE'RE I CAN HEADACHE EVER MAKING THOSE UPGRADES THE ON THE WESTERN PART OF OUR SYSTEM TO CONFORM TO.

IT CONFORMS TO THE WATER SUPPLY AND WATER POLICY OF THE GENERAL PLAN.

OUR NEXT PROJECT, NUMBER 7, AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN A VERY HAZARDOUS ZONE WHEN IT COMES TO FAULTS IN TERMS OF THE RISK OF EARTHQUAKES AND HOW OUR FACILITIES MUST BE

[00:15:05]

PROTECTED FROM THAT.

AND THIS PROJECT HERE IS THE -- THE TWO PLANS THAT I JUST MENTIONED EARLIER, PLANT NUMBER 2, PLANT NUMBER 4, WE'RE GOING TO DO A RETROFIT OF THE EXISTING PLANT FACILITIES.

WHAT THAT CONSISTS IS ANCHORING SOME OF THE ACTUAL PUMPS AND RESERVOIR ITSELF WITH WHAT WE CALL FLEXIBLE COUPLINGS SO THAT IF THERE'S ANY YOU MOVEMENT, ANY GROUND MOVEMENT, WE CAN ADHERE AND HAVE SOME TOLERANCE ON THAT FACILITY, AND WE WOULD AVOID SNAPPING OF ANY PIPES OR ANY APPURTENANCES THAT SURROUND THE RESERVOIR OR THE ACTUAL WELLS THEMSELVES.

ONCE AGAIN, CONFORMS TO WATER SUPPLY.

AND IN THIS CASE, THE SEISMIC HAZARDS OF THE CITY'S GENERAL PLAN, SE-2.4.

ANOTHER PROJECT THAT YOU WILL SEE A LOT OF RECONSTRUCTION COME LATE SUMMER, AND THIS IS THE INSTALLATION OF APPROXIMATELY 2700 LINEAR FEET OF 18-INCH PIPELINE ALONG MILES AVENUE.

JUST EAST OF JEFFERSON.

IT WILL ALSO BE A LITTLE BIT WEST OF JEFFERSON, AND THIS PROJECT WILL IMPROVE THE SYSTEM PRESSURES AT, ADD FIRE PROTECTION BY LOOPING THE DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM IN THAT SEGMENT JUST WEST OF JEFFERSON, THERE IS NO PIPELINE, AND IT'S TIME TO IMPLEMENT THIS SO THAT WE CAN ENSURE THAT THE PUMP STATIONS THAT WE'RE UPGRADING CAN PUMP THROUGH THE DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM AS WELL AS ANY TREATMENT THAT WE HAVE WITH CHROMIUM 6.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR SYSTEM IS CAPABLE OF DISPERSING THAT WATER THROUGHOUT DIFFERENT SEGMENTS OF THE WESTERN PART OF OUR SYSTEM.

AGAIN, IT CONFORMS ON OUR POLICIES ON WATER SUPPLY AND WATER FACILITIES.

ONE OF OUR ONGOING PROJECTS THAT WE'VE CONTINUED TO HAVE GREAT SUCCESS IS OUR PROJECT NUMBER 9 AND 10, NUMBER 9 BEING THE WELL REHABILITATION AND NUMBER 10 THE PIPELINE REPLACEMENT PROGRAM.

HERE'S A PICTURE OF ONE OF OUR EXISTING WELLS, AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE IS REHAB THE WELLS SO THAT WE CAN INCREASE THE USEFUL LIFE OF THAT WELL.

RIGHT NOW IT COSTS ABOUT $4.5 MILLION TO DRILL A NEW WELL.

THAT'S ASSUMING NO TREATMENT.

AND WHEN WE DO REHAB, IT COSTS ABOUT $300,000 TO REHAB ONE WILL, AND TYPICALLY THE USEFUL LIFE OF THE WELL IS EXTENDED ABOUT TEN YEARS, SO A VERY GOOD INVESTMENT FOR THE CITY.

IN ADDITION TO THANK, WE'RE ALSO REHABBING OUR PIPELINES, REPLACING PIPELINES WHERE THERE'S A VERY LOW PRESSURE, AND IN SOME CASES WHEN WE HAVE NEW PROJECTS SUCH AS THE AVENUE 44 BRIDGE WHERE WE WILL HAVE TWO NEW PIPELINES IN THAT BRIDGE, UPSIZE AND UPGRADE, AGAIN WILL BE PART OF THIS REPLACEMENT PROGRAM.

ONCE AGAIN, IT CONFORMS TO THE POLICIES OF WATER SUPPLY AS WELL AS WATER FACILITIES AS PART OF OUR CITY'S GENERAL PLAN.

AND ONE OF OUR LAST PROJECTS HERE, AGAIN A CARRYOVER PROJECT BECAUSE THIS IS A MULTI-YEAR PROGRAM IS PARTNERING WITH BSD TO MAKE USE OF THAT RECYCLED WATER THE FACILITY PRODUCES, AND THIS WOULD INVOLVE BUILDINGS A TREATMENT PLANT.

THIS IS ONE OF OUR MULTI-YEAR PROJECTS.

AND THIS CURRENT FIS FISCAL YEAR WE COMPLETED A FEASIBILITY STUDY.

NOW MOVING INTO THE NEXT PART OF THE YEAR WE WILL NOW BE DEVELOPING A GROUND WATER MODEL TO REALLY GET THE TECHNICAL INFORMATION OF HOW THIS WATER WILL ENTER OUR GROUND WATER SUPPLY.

ONCE AGAIN, IT CONFORMS TO OUR WATER SUPPLY AS WELL AS OUR WATER FACILITIES POLICIES OF THE GENERAL PLAN -- -- AND WITH THAT, I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

I'D LIKE TO ALSO -- -- MANAGE OUR GENERAL MANAGER IS ALSO ON THE CALL, ON THE ZOOM AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>> THANK YOU, MR. TREJO.

THIS IS FOR OUR COMMISSIONERS.

DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. TREJO?

>> I HAVE A QUESTION, CHAIR.

I'M JUST CURIOUS FOR PROJECT 11 WITH THE WATER TREATMENT, AFTER YOU DOUGH THE MODELING, HOW FAR BEFORE WE GO ACTUALLY START SEEING SOME FURTHER DEVELOPMENT?

>> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, AND THE FIRST STEP, AND THE REASON YA WE'RE DOING THE GROUND WATER MODELING IS WE ARE MEETING WITH THE REGULATORS.

THERE'S TWO REGULATORS.

THE DEPARTMENT OF DRINKING WATER AND THERE'S THE REGIONAL BOARD.

AND WHAT THEY WILL SET IS THE PACE AND THE REQUIREMENTS -- OF WHAT WE NEED TO DO NEXT.

TYPICALLY A PROJECT OF THIS MAGNITUDE WITH THE CURRENT SCHEDULE, WE WILL NOT SEE THE WATER PRODUCED ANY EARLIER THAN 2028.

AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS THERE ARE SOME ON-SITE EXPANSIONS THAT BSD AND ALSO WORKING ON, AND SO PART OF OUR PROGRAM IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE EXPANSION ON THEIR

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SIDE IS COMPLETE TO FURTHER PRODUCE THAT RECYCLED WATER.

THEY'RE ANTICIPATION COMPLETION DATE IS ABOUT 2026, WHICH MEANS WE HAVE A PARALLEL EFFORT WHERE WE WILL CONTINUE TO CONSTRUCT PAST THEIR IMPROVEMENTS AND IMPLEMENT THE PROJECT NO SOONER THAN 2028.

VERY TYPICAL OF A PROJECT OF THIS SCALE.

JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, OUR CURRENT COST ESTIMATES OF THIS PROJECT IS IN THE MAGNITUDE OF $70 MILLION, SO YOU CAN IMAGINE THE AMOUNT OF PLANNING, THE REGULATORY PORTION USUALLY TAKES ABOUT TWO TO THREE YEARS, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE PRELIMINARY IMPLEMENTATION WHICH IS THE ACTUAL DESIGN AND RECONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECT.

NO SOONER THAN 2028, AND A LOT OF PARTICIPATION WITH BSD AND THE REGULATORS.

>> AND JUST A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION.

HOW WOULD THAT AFFECT OUR CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE WATER? AND WHO IS TO BENEFIT FROM A TYPE OF PROJECT LIKE THIS?

>> THE QUESTION IS HOW WOULD IT WOULD AFFECT OUR CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE.

THERE'S NO NET EFFECT ON IT.

WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY TRYING TO DO HERE IS INCREASE OUR SUPPLY, AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS WE ONLY HAVE ONE SOURCE OF WATER CURRENTLY WHICH IS PUMPING FROM THE GROUND, AND OVER TIME, AND I THINK YOU'VE SEEN THE NEWS RECENTLY, THAT THERE'S A DECLARATION OF DROUGHT OCCURRING RIGHT NOW IN THE STATE.

AND A PROJECT OF THIS MAGNITUDE WOULD INTRODUCE ABOUT 25% OF THE WATERS THAT WE PUMP EACH YEAR.

CURRENTLY WE PUMP ABOUT WHAT'S CALLED 20,000-ACRE FEET.

1 ACRE FOOT IS OVER 300,000 GALLONS.

SO KEEP IN MIND, 20,000-ACRE FEET, THIS PRODUCES 5,000-ACRE FEET.

WHAT WE'RE DOING IS TRYING TO KEEP OUR GROUND WATER LEVELS HIGHER.

AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, NO NET EFFECT ON OUR PRODUCTION FACILITIES, BUT RATHER WE'RE TRYING TO CONTINUE TO FULLY UTILIZE THOSE FACILITIES.

IT'S ANOTHER WAY OF TRYING TO BRING WATER TO THE GROUND.

THE GEOLOGY OUT HERE MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR RAIN TO PENETRATE THE GROUND, AND WE NEED THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS TO FULLY INJECT WITHIN THE AQUIFER TO GET THAT WATER WHERE WE NEED IT BEST.

I COULD ANSWER, IF THAT WASN'T SUFFICIENT, I'D BE HAPPY TO EXPLAIN A LITTLE FURTHER, BUT FUNDAMENTALLY, IT'S AUGMENTING OUR WATER SUPPLY, OUR ONLY SUPPLY.

>> NO, THANK YOU.

THAT'S GREAT.

I WANTED TO HEAR HOW POSITIVELY THIS WOULD BE AFFECTING.

IT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD PROJECT AND IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE SOME INVESTMENT, BUT I CAN SEE HOW THIS IS GOING TO BE A UTILITY FOR US.

THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ CEJA VICE CHAIR FRANZ, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BUT WOULD I LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT WONDERFUL PRESENTATION AND I'M VERY GLAD TO SEE AND HEAR THAT IWA IS ALSO LOOKING AHEAD TO THE FUTURE AND STAYING AHEAD OF THINGS LIKE THIS RATHER THAN REACTING AND I THINK WE HAVE A GREAT DEPARTMENT THERE AT THE IWA AND APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I COMPLETELY AGREE.

I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT WE ARE TRYING TO PROTECT OUR WATER SOURCE.

AND I THINK THESE PROJECTS ARE ALL GREAT, SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THEM TO US TONIGHT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> AND I, TOO, ECHO THAT.

MAYBE I HAVE A QUESTION KIND OF RELATED TO THIS BUT MAYBE IN THE BIGGER SPECTRUM, MAYBE YOUR GENERAL MANAGER CAN HELP ME ANSWER THIS QUESTION.

IN LIGHT OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH CYBERSECURITY, DO WE HAVE ANYTHING IN PLACE TO PROTECT OUR -- IN REGARDS TO CYBERSECURITY, TO PROTECT OUR WATER SUPPLY AND HOW THINGS RUN AT THE CITY?

>> YES.

YOU'RE REFERRING TO I THINK IN FLORIDA WHERE THE SYSTEM GOT HACKED.

WE GOT ALL THE DETAILS ON THAT AND LOOKED AT WHERE THE WEAKNESSES WERE AND THEN RAN KIND OF AN ANALYSIS OF OUR SYSTEM TO VERIFY THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE THE SAME WEAKNESSES.

WE FOUND A COUPLE AREAS WHERE WE NEEDED TO TWEAK WHAT WE WERE DOING, BUT OVERALL WE WERE -- WE FOUND THAT WE WERE PRETTY PROTECTED FROM THOSE TYPES OF HACKS, YEAH.

SO WE'RE DOING GOOD BUT, YOU KNOW, THINGS CHANGE SO WE ALWAYS HAVE TO CHECK IN I'D SAY ONCE A YEAR JUST TO DO THAT SAME VERIFICATION, ABSOLUTELY.

>> IT'S GOOD TO HEAR FROM INFRASTRUCTURE UPDATES BUT ALSO IN THE BACK OF MY MIND, ESPECIALLY WITH WHAT'S GOING ON NATIONALLY.

AND I GUESS AT THIS POINT, IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE RESOLUTION 1993.

>> CHAIR, IF I MIGHT SUGGEST WE JUST CHECK WITH MS. BELTRAN TO SEE IN F.

ANY PUBLIC COMMENT WAS SUBMITTED ON THE ITEM BEFORE WE MOVE TO A MOTION.

>> SORRY ABOUT THAT.

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>> WE DO NOT -- >> DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS?

>> WE DO NOT.

>> THANK YOU.

OKAY.

SO I GUESS AT THIS THE POINT IF SOMEONE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 1993.

>> I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 1993, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF INDIO FINDING THAT THE FISCAL YEAR 2021-2022 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM OF THE INDIO WATER AUTHORITY IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF INDIO GENERAL PLAN 2040.

>> I WILL SECOND.

>> ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ.

>> YES.

>> VICE CHAIRPERSON YSIANO.

>> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ.

>> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER FRANZ.

>> YES.

>> MOTION CARRIES 4-0.

THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

CONGRATULATIONS.

OKAY.

[10.1 Palm Patio Homes- Project Consultation:]

NOW WE MOVE TO STUDY SESSION, 10.1, PALM PATIO HOMES.

THIS IS A PROJECT CONSULTATION.

AND MS. NAMVAR, YOU'RE UP.

>> HI.

YES, IT IS A PROJECT CONSULTATION, AND I WAS WONDERING IF EVERYBODY CAN SEE THE SCREEN.

ALL RIGHT.

SO AS YOU MENTIONED THIS IS A PROJECT CONSULTATION.

FOR NOW WE CALL IT PALM PATIO HOMES.

GENERALLY THE PROJECT IS LOCATED NORTH OF AVENUE 44 AND WEST OF GOLF CENTER PARKWAY.

AS YOU RECALL, THIS IS A ARCO, AM/PM AND STORE WITH MR. SHANDI'S DEVELOPMENT.

CURRENTLY THIS IS THE ZONING FOR THE PROJECT IS NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, WHICH PROHIBITS RESIDENTIAL USES.

AND THE GENERAL PLAN DESIGNATION IS MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH ALLOWS A COMBINATION OF RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES WITH A DENSITY OF UP TO 40 ACRES.

SO THERE ARE SOME BASICALLY ZONING UPDATES AND CONSISTENCIES THAT NEED TO BE DONE IF THIS PROJECT GOES FORWARD.

SO WHAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING IS 32 PATIO HOMES IN A GATED COMMUNITY, WHICH WILL HAVE SOME AMENITIES LIKE DOG PARK, POOL, COMMUNITY POOL AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND THEIR PLAN IS TO USE IT AS A HOSPITALITY FACILITY, WHICH IN A SENSE IS EQUIVALENT TO A HOTEL WITH A LARGER FOOTPRINT AND LARGER AMENITIES.

IN THEIR BASICALLY INTRODUCTION OF THE PROJECT, THEY'RE SAYING THAT IT COULD BE A SHORT-TERM RENTAL, IT COULD BE -- OPERATE AS LIKE A HOTEL WITH 30 DAYS OR LESS DAYS BEING RENTED.

AND IT WILL BE OPERATED AS A SHORT-TERM RENTAL FACILITY, THE CITY WILL CAPTURE SOME TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY TAX OR TOT.

STAFF HAS SOME HESITATION REGARDING THIS PROJECT BASED ON THE GENERAL PLAN DESIGNATION, WHICH IS IF THIS BECOMES A RENTAL, SHORT-TERM RENTAL FACILITY WITH 32 UNITS, WE ARE BASICALLY LEAVING SOME RESIDENTIAL UNITS ON THE TABLE, AND ALSO WE ARE LOSING SOME COMMERCIAL OPPORTUNITY AS WELL.

THE APPLICANT KNOWS ABOUT THIS CONCERN, SO THEY WANTED TO COME BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION BEFORE GOING ANY FURTHER TO GET THE FEEDBACK FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS WELL.

SO WE ARE HERE TO HEAR FROM YOU, AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS LETTERS HERE TONIGHT AND THEY CAN EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE PROJECT IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO.

THAT CONCLUDES MY STAFF REPORT.

THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, LEILA.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME.

>> DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR LEILA BEFORE WE SPEAK TO THE APPLICANT? OKAY.

IS IT MR. BARTON?

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OR THE APPLICANT, IF YOU'RE READY.

>> YES, HI.

MADAME CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE WITH YOU THIS PROJECT.

CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME?

>> YES.

>> WONDERFUL.

I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH OUR CONSULTANTS MSA CONSULTING.

THIS IS OUR THIRD SITE WE'VE LOOKED AT IN THE COACHELLA VALLEY TO DEVELOP WHAT IS SOMEWHAT OF A UNIQUE PROJECT.

THE CURRENT TENSION BETWEEN SHORT-TERM RENTAL AND TRADITIONAL SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS IS A GROWING CONCERN ACROSS THE COACHELLA VALLEY.

THERE IS, HOWEVER, A GROWING DEMAND FOR VACATION RENTALS, SEASONAL RENTALS AND SHORTS-TERM RENTALS.

WE THINK THIS PARTICULAR 3.6-ACRE PARCEL NORTH OF AVENUE 44 AND WEST OF GOLF CENTER PARKWAY IS ACTUALLY AN IDEAL SITE FOR A PROJECT LIKE THIS, EVEN THOUGH IT IS CURRENTLY ZONED COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL.

THE SETBACK REQUIREMENT OF COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL OF 150 FEET BASICALLY MAKES THIS PARCEL UNUSABLE WITH ITS CURRENT ZONING.

AND IT'S NOT, IN MY OPINION, A GOOD USE OR A GOOD DESIGNATION FOR THIS PARCEL.

ON THE OTHER HAND, WITH ITS CONTIGUOUS NEIGHBORHOODS, DEVELOPING A PATIO HOME PROJECT THAT CATERS TO LONG-TERM RENTALS, SEASONAL RENTALS AND VACATION RENTALS BUT IS MANAGED SIMILAR TO A HOSPITALITY PROJECT IN TERMS OF CONSISTENCY OF MANAGEMENT, WE THINK PROVIDES A VERY GOOD LAND USE, FILLS THE NEED FOR GROWING NEED FOR VACATION RENTAL PROPERTIES, AND ALSO PROVIDE NEEDED HOUSING ON A SHORTER TERM BASIS FOR FAMILIES THAT MIGHT BE RELOCATING TO INDIO OR TO THE AREA.

THERE'S A REAL SHORTAGE OF THREE-BEDROOM TYPE HOUSING THAT'S PROPOSED FOR THIS PROJECT.

SO WE FEEL IT'S A GREAT USE, LAND USE.

IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IT'S CONTIGUOUS TO.

WE BELIEVE THE CURRENT ZONING IS NOT VERY WELL SUITED FOR THIS PARCEL.

AND IT ALSO FITS A GROWING NEED THAT THERE'S REALLY NOT VERY MANY PROJECTS LIKE THIS, IF ANY LIKE THIS THAT ARE ON THE DRAWING BOARD OR IN THE MARKET.

I HAVE MY CODEVELOPER DAVID PETERSON WITH COTTONTREE MANAGEMENT, INC., A HOSPITALITY MANAGEMENT COMPANY OUT OF UTAH, AND THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT IS BEST DESCRIBED IS AS A MIX OF BEST OF HOSPITALITY AND THE BEST OF WHAT FAMILIES WANT TO EXPERIENCE WITH VACATION RENTAL PROPERTIES OR SEASONAL REGENTS.

>> THANK YOU.

I GUESS AT THIS TIME ANY QUESTIONS FROM OUR COMMISSIONERS?

>> MADAME CHAIRPERSON, IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS, I JUST -- I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY ONE ITEM THAT MR. BARTON SAID ABOUT THE 150 FEET SEPARATION AND MAKING THIS PROPERTY USE NOT VERY USEFUL, IF I MAY.

YEAH? SO I BELIEVE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, LIKE OTHER ZONING CODE WITHIN THE CITY, IT HAS SOME TYPE OF RESTRICTION.

IF YOU GO ABOVE A CERTAIN HEIGHT THRESHOLD.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE AUTOMATICALLY THEY NEED TO BE 150 FEET.

ANYTHING THAT GETS BUILT THERE NEEDS TO BE 150 FEET AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH.

IF THEY GO ABOVE THE HEIGHT OF 20 FEET, 25 FEET, THEY NEED TO BE 150 FEET AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH DUE TO THE REASON THAT IT IS RESIDENTIAL FOR PRIVACY USES.

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SO IT'S NOT BY DEFAULT THEY HAVE TO BE 150 FEET.

WHEN THE HEIGHT GOES TO A CERTAIN POINT ALSO IT SAYS IF IT IS SEPARATED BY A STREET OR BY AN EASEMENT, WHICH I THINK IN THIS CASE, EXCEPT THIS CORNER, THERE IS A STREET SEPARATION HERE AS WELL TO THE NORTH, SO IT MIGHT NOT BE APPLICABLE.

SO I JUST WANTED TO CLEAR THAT FOR THE RECORD.

THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, LEILA.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS?

>> I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.

SO THIS PROJECT, HAVE YOU DONE ANYTHING SIMILAR ANYWHERE ELSE IN EITHER CALIFORNIA, THE DESERT, UTAH?

>> NO, WE'VE -- MR. PETERSON IS ALSO ON THE ZOOM CALL HERE, AND PRIMARILY HOSPITALITY PROJECTS, HOTELS AND EXTENDED STAYS.

WE HAVE LOOKED AT THE OPPORTUNITY TODAY A TRADITIONAL HOSPITALITY PROJECT, BUT, QUITE FRANKLY, THERE'S ADEQUATE SUPPLY IN THE MARKET RIGHT NOW, AND WE FEEL IN OUR STUDIES THE LINE IS STARTING TO BLUR BETWEEN THE MARRIOTTS AND THE HILTONS.

WE'RE TALKING TO SOME OF THE TRADITIONAL LARGER FRANCHISORS ABOUT FRANCHISING THIS AND PUTTING THEIR FLAG ON IT, AND I CAN LET MR. PETERSON RESPOND TO THAT.

SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS YOU KIND OF A MERGER IN THE HOSPITALITY AREA WHERE IT USED TO BE PRETTY CLEAR DISTINCTION BETWEEN WHAT'S A HOTEL AND WHAT'S A VACATION RENTAL PROPERTY, AND YOU'RE STARTING TO SEE A LITTLE CROSSOVER IN THE INDUSTRY, SO THIS IS DEFINITELY A UNIQUE PROJECT, BUT YOU'RE SEEING THE MARRIOTTS AND THE HILTONS STARTING TO MOVE THIS DIRECTION AS PART OF THEIR EXPANSION OF THEIR FOOT PRINCIPLED.

>> OKAY.

SO -- OF THEIR FOOT PERSISTENT.

>> SO AS A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION, IN MAYBE THE '40S OR '50S, THERE USED TO BE MORE LIKE CABANAS, YOU KNOW, SMALL LITTLE SINGLE RESORT KINDS OF PLACES THAT PEOPLE WOULD GO AND STAY.

IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE MORE SIMILAR TO BRINGING THAT OLD ERA THAT YOU WOULD HAVE ALMOST LIKE AN APARTMENT OR A HOUSE BUT YET IT IS A RESORT?

>> YES.

IT'S A GOOD WAY TO DESCRIBE IT.

IT REALLY IS AN EXPERIENCE WHERE FAMILIES CAN COME AND STAY FOR A VACATION, HAVE THEIR OWN SEPARATE LIVING UNIT.

THESE ARE DESIGNED CURRENTLY FOR THREE BEDROOM, SO THEY REALLY ARE FAMILY-ORIENTED, IN A SECURED COMMUNITY, AND A PRIVATE POOL.

IT FEELS MORE LIKE A GETAWAY RESIDENCE THAN IT FEELS LIKE A HOTEL.

AND, QUITE FRANKLY, IT'S WHAT A LOT OF FAMILIES ARE LOOKING FOR TODAY WITH VACATION RENTAL PROPERTIES.

SO THAT IS A VERY INTERESTING WAY TO DESCRIBE IT, BUT IT WOULD VERY MUCH BE SIMILAR TO THAT.

>> OKAY.

AND MY OTHER QUESTION IS ARE YOU -- I BELIEVE THIS IS ALL SINGLE-STORY, CORRECT?

YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT A TWO-STORY -- >> THESE ARE ALL TWO-STORY.

>> THEY ARE TWO-STORY.

OKAY.

I WASN'T SURE WHICH WAY I REMEMBER READING THAT.

SO THESE ARE ALL TWO-STORY.

>> YES, THEY ARE.

>> ALL RIGHT.

THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS FOR NOW.

THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER FRANZ.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.

>> YES.

>> I WAS JUST CURIOUS, MR. BARTON, YOU SAID THAT YOU HAD TAKEN CONSIDERATION OF OTHER SITES OUT HERE IN THE COACHELLA VALLEY.

I'M CURIOUS WHAT OTHER CITIES YOU EXPLORED, AND ALSO WHAT WERE THE DETERRENTS AND WHY IN COMPARISON TO WHERE YOU DECIDED NOT TO PUT THIS PARTICULAR SITE AND BRING IT HERE TO INDIO?

>> SURE.

WE HAD A PARCEL IN LA QUINTA THAT WE LOOKED YOU AT RIGHT OFF OF MYLES, AND THE DENSITY WE WANTED, THEY WOULD HAVE APPROVED IT, BUT THE DENSITY WE WANTED WASN'T ADEQUATE FOR THE COST OF THE LAND, AND THE DEVELOPMENT COSTS THAT WENT WITH IT, SO IT MADE IT PROHIBITIVE UNLESS WE SET ASIDE SO MANY FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IT JUST DIDN'T WORK.

WE ALSO LOOKED AT ANOTHER LOCATION IN UNINCORPORATED BERMUDA DUNES, AND IT WAS ACTUALLY CONTIGUOUS TO THE BERMUDA DUNES COUNTRY CLUB, AND, QUITE FRANKLY, THE PROBLEMS WITH THE BERMUDA DUNES COUNTRY CLUB ITSELF AND A LOT OF DEFERRED CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS THAT THEY HAVE LAGGED ON THAT MADE ME WALK AWAY FROM

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IT.

SO THIS IS A THIRD SITE WE'VE LOOKED AT, BUT THE OTHER TWO SITES WERE REJECTED PRIMARILY BECAUSE WHAT WE NEEDED TO HAVE DONE, IT JUST DIDN'T WORK WELL.

AND I THINK THE OTHER DIFFICULT THING THAT WE'VE SEEN TRYING TO GET A HANDLE ON AS THE PROJECT IS DESIGNED TO BE SHORT-TERM HAVE A INDICATIONCATION REGENTS FROM THE OUTSAID TO ANSWER TOY MARKET NEED THAT EVERYONE IN THE COACHELLA VALLEY IS STRUGGLING WITH RIGHT NOW, AND WE FEEL A PROJECT LIKE THIS, SINCE IT'S DESIGNED FROM ITS INCEPTION TO ALLOW FOR SHORT-TERM VACATION RENTALS, EVERYONE KNOWS WHO LIVES THERE AND RESIDES THERE, THAT'S PART OF THE EXPERIENCE, AND AT A VOIDS AVOIDS THE DEVELOPING CONFLICT THAT YOU HAVE IN THE SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS AND FITS AGAIN, I THINK A VERY BIG NEED IN INDIO FOR THIS TYPE OF PRODUCT, AND A WELL IS JUST SOMEONE WHO NEEDS A NICE TO THEM LIVE IN FOR SIX MONTHS OR NINE MONTHS IF THEY WANT TO DO AN EXTENDED STAY, IT WILL WORK WELL FOR THAT ALSO.

AND I THINK THE NEIGHBORS, QUITE FRANKLY, IF I'M THE NEIGHBORS ON EITHER SIDE, I WOULD MUCH RATHER SEE THIS THAN -- THAN THE CURRENT ZONING USE.

>> HAVE YOU SPOKEN NO OF THE NEIGHBORS?

>> NO, WE HAVE NOT.

>> CAN I FOLLOW UP ON THIS.

>> COMMISSIONER FRANZ.

>> YEAH.

IF SOMEONE IS HERE, THEN THEY KNOW WHAT THIS IS, THAT IT'S A POSSIBLE SHORT-TERM RENTAL, POSSIBLY SIX MONTHS, THREE MONTHS KIND OF STAY, BUT YOU'RE NOT PLANNING ON SOMEBODY BEING ABLE TO LIVE HERE FULL-TIME, RIGHT, LIKE TO A LEASE FOR, YOU KNOW, THREE YEARS, FIVE YEARS OR IS THAT GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S A POSSIBILITY DEPENDING ON HOW THE MARKET GOES?

>> YEAH, I GUESS IT COULD BE A POSSIBILITY FOR SOMEONE TO EXTEND THEIR STAY FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME IF THEY WANTED TO.

THAT'S NOT -- IT WOULDN'T BE PROHIBITED.

OUR PROPOSAL ISN'T TO PROHIBIT THAT, BUT THAT'S NOT THE OBJECTIVE OF THE PROJECT.

>> OKAY.

ALSO, WITH ALL OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS THAT EVERYONE IS TALKING ABOUT, ARE YOU GOING TO BE BUILDING TO A CERTAIN LEVEL OF EITHER A LEED OR GREEN WATER EFFICIENCY? I MEAN ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE VERY IMPORTANT, SO I'M KIND OF CURIOUS AS TO WHEN YOU BUILD, ARE YOU BUILDING TO SOME OF THESE SPECIFICATIONS?

>> VERY MUCH DESIGNED TO BE A WATER USAGE FRIENDLY THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROJECT, AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT SOLAR POSSIBILITIES, PRICING SOLAR OPTIONS FOR THE PROJECT, AND IT MAY MAKES SENSE TO ALSO INCLUDE THE SOLAR PACKAGES WITH THE TAX CREDITS THAT ARE STILL AVAILABLE.

AS WE ALL KNOW, WE'RE FORTUNATE -- I LIVE IN IMPERIAL IRRIGATION DISTRICT -- WE'RE ALL FORTUNATE TO HAVE A UTILITY COST RATE THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT PAY BACK QUITE AS MUCH AS IF YOU'RE IN CAL EDISON BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT AS AN OPTION ALSO TO MAKE THEM VERY AFFORDABLE FROM A UTILITY STANDPOINT AND FROM A WATER STANDPOINT.

>> THANK YOU.

CHAIR, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR LEILA, IF THAT'S OKAY.

>> OKAY.

>> LEILA, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE ZONING, AND WITH THE UPDATE TO THE GENERAL PLAN, YOU KNOW, GOING TO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL OR MIX USE AND NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL VERSUS THE CURRENT ZONING, WHICH IS COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL, WE'RE IN PROCESS OF UPDATING OUR ZONING, CORRECT?

>> CORRECT.

WE ARE PROCESSING -- WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF UPDATING OUR ZONING, SO OUR ZONING WILL BE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO A MIXED USE DESIGNATION.

>> SO IF THIS WERE AT THIS POINT A MIXED USE DESIGNATION, WOULD THIS THEN FALL MORE INTO THAT, INTO THAT CATEGORY OR WOULD IT STILL NOT FALL INTO THAT CATEGORY?

>> SO IT WON'T BE A TRUE MIXED USE BECAUSE IT IS ONLY, LET'S SAY, ONLY A HOTEL TYPE, SO IT'S NOT THAT COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL TYPE OF COMPONENT.

IT WON'T 100% FALL UNDER THAT.

WE CAN STRETCH, BUT AGAIN, OUR CONCERN IS MAINLY LOSING OUR COMMERCIAL LAND TO THIS

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PROJECT, LOSING, LET'S SAY IF THEY WANT TO GO 20 UNITS PER ACRE, WHICH MAKES 60 UNITS, WE ARE BASICALLY LOSING HALF OUR UNITS AS WELL WITH THIS PROJECT IN THE FORM THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.

>> OKAY.

CAN YOU PULL UP A MAP FOR ME, I GUESS MORE OF A SATELLITE MAP THAT SHOWS WHAT'S AROUND IT ON ALL YOU SIDES? BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S AN EMPTY LOT RIGHT TO THE EAST.

THERE WE GO.

>> SO THERE ARE TWO LOTS TO THE EAST.

ALL OF THEM ARE THE SAME ZONING AND SAME GENERAL PLAN.

SOUTH IT IS GOLF COURSE VILLAGE OR MR. SHANDI'S PROJECT, WHICH IS 12 ACRES OF, AGAIN, MIXED USE.

TO THE EAST IT IS -- ON THE CORNER IS A SMALL COMMERCIAL CENTER WITH A DELI.

TO THE NORTH, AS YOU SEE, THERE ARE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

AND ALSO TO THE NORTHEAST THERE IS A MOBILE HOME PARK.

TO THE -- A QUARTER MILE TO THE SOUTH YOU HAVE I10.

SO THIS IS BASICALLY THE SETTING, CURRENT SETTING.

>> SO ALL OF THE LANDS THAT'S PART OF THE ARCO AM/PM SHANDI GROUP, THAT WILL ALL BE SOME TYPE OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT SOME TYPE IN THE FUTURE, MORE THAN LIKELY.

>> RIGHT.

IT WILL BE COMMERCIAL, INCLUDING RETAIL, OFFICE.

AT SOME POINT THEY WERE PROPOSING SOME RESIDENTIAL AS WELL.

>> OKAY.

SO POSSIBLY RESIDENTIAL ON THAT SIDE.

>> POSSIBLY.

>> AND ON THE -- ACROSS FROM THE ARCO, THAT'S ALL STILL VACANT LAND, CORRECT, ON THE EAST SIDE? Y.

>> ON THE EAST SIDE THERE ARE SOME APPROVED PROJECTS THAT ARE EXPIRED, BUT MAINLY IS VACANT, AND MONT VENA, MISMORE TOWARD THE EAST, IT'S A RESIDENTIAL PROJECT -- -- THAT DR HORTON IS BUILDING.

>> THEY ARE BUILDING OVER THERE.

THAT'S ACROSS THE WAY FROM TERRA LAGO IN THAT AREA.

>> CORRECT.

>> OKAY.

THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO SEE.

THANK YOU.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR LEILA.

IF I READ THIS CORRECTLY, IS THIS GATED? AND I WAS WONDERING A GENERAL PLAN -- I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED BECAUSE IT'S SOMEWHAT HOUSING RESIDENTIAL -- WELL, WOULD THAT REITERATE TO BE OPEN? I THOUGHT WE WERE DOING AWAY WITH THE GATED COMMUNITIES.

>> SO OUR GENERAL PLAN ENCOURAGES NON-GATED COMMUNITIES, AND IF WE HAVE TO HAVE GATED, EVERY 600 FEET THERE IS SUPPOSED TO BE SOME CONNECTION BETWEEN USES, SO TO CREATE THAT WALKABILITY AND CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN NEIGHBORHOODS OR USES.

SO THIS IS GATED.

AS I SAID, THE GENERAL PLAN DOES NOT PROHIBITED GATED COMMUNITIES, BUT IT ENCOURAGES NOT HAVING GATED COMMUNITIES.

SO IT FALLS -- I MEAN, IT'S NOT MEETING THAT CRITERIA 100%.

JACKIE, YOU'RE ON MUTE.

I'M SORRY.

CHAIRPERSON, YOU'RE ON MUTE.

>> SORRY ABOUT THAT.

I FORGET THAT I HIT THE MUTE BUTTON.

I WAS SAYING ARE THERE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR LEILA OR FOR MR. BARNETT?

>> I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION FOR MR. BARTON.

IN YOUR MARKET STUDY, WHAT IS THE PRICE RANGE? OR WHO ARE THE FOLKS THAT YOU'RE TARGETING TO OCCUPY THESE SHORT-TERM RENTALS?

>> WELL, THE PRICE RANGE WOULD BE, AVERAGE ABOUT $3,500 A MONTH FOR THE RENTAL MARKET ON A MONTH-TO-MONTH BASIS.

OF COURSE, VACATION RENTALS ARE QUITE DIFFERENT IN TERMS OF SEASONAL, AS YOU'RE AWARE.

AND SO BEING THREE BEDROOM, THREE BATH, TWO CAR GARAGE PLACES, THE MARKET WOULD BE APPEALING, AGAIN, PRIMARILY TO SEASONAL RENTAL.

THE GROWING DEMAND FOR VACATION RENTALS.

AND THOSE WHO WANT EXTENDED STAY RENTALS AS A PLACE TO STAY, FOLKS WHO HAVE JUST MOVED TO THE AREA, IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE IF YOU'VE GOT A FAMILY TO FIND A PLACE

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TO LIVE ON AN INTERIM BASIS WHILE YOU'RE BUILDING A HOME OR HAVING BEEN TRANSFERRED TO THE AREA, THERE'S A TREMENDOUS LACK OF THIS TYPE OF HOUSING AVAILABLE.

AND SO THE MARKET RATE THAT WE HAVE TARGETED IS ABOUT $3,500 AVERAGE PER MONTH PER UNIT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> CHAIR, SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

PAUL FROM MSA HAD HIS HAND EMOJI UP EARLIER.

I THINK HE MAY HAVE WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT.

HE'S A REPRESENTATIVE FORT APPLICANT.

HE HAD HIS HAND I MICHELANGELOY UP EARLIER SO I THINK HE WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT.

>> HI, YES.

THANKS FOR RECOGNIZING ME, KEVIN.

JUST TO COMMENT ABOUT THE CONNECTIVITY QUESTION, WE'RE AWARE OF THAT WITH A LOFTY THE PROJECTS THAT WE DO, BUT THEY EVE EACH HAVE TO BE LOOKED AT AT INDEPENDENTLY WITH THEIR LOCATION.

IF YOU LOOK AT THIS SITE, WE'VE OBVIOUSLY GOT A PREEXISTING RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THE NORTH AND WEST SIDES, AND A FAIRLY MAJOR ROAD THAT DOESN'T REALLY HAVE HAD A LIKELY AREA FOR A CROSSING THERE, SO THE CONNECTION OPTIONS ON THIS SITE ARE SOMEWHAT LIMITED.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT OBSERVATION.

>> ANY QUESTIONS?

>> WELL, I JUST WOULD LIKE ONE MORE, CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO NOTE THAT THIS IS AN OUT-OF-THE-BOX PROJECT.

WE BELIEVE THE DEMAND IS THERE AND WE WOULD LIKE TO BUILD THIS IN INDIO AND FEEL LIKE THIS IS A GREAT LOCATION, AND, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT LOTS OF EXPERIENCE IN PLANNING AND ZONING OVER THE YEARS IN MY CAREER.

IF I'M IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, I SURE DON'T WANT A LITTLE STRIP COMMERCIAL CENTER THERE BECAUSE IT JUST DOESN'T -- IT DOESN'T LEND ITSELF VERY WELL FOR A WELL THOUGHT OUT AND DEVELOPED COMMERCIAL CENTER IN THAT SMALL OF A LOCATION, SO I THINK THIS IS A MUCH BETTER USE, AND WE'D LIKE THE COMMISSION TO GIVE IT DUE CONSIDERATION.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU, MR. BARTON.

>> CHAIRMAN LOPEZ, IS THIS THE KIND WHEN WE'RE GOING TO TALK AMONG OURSELVES?

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

I APOLOGIZE.

JUST TO REMIND THE COMMISSION THAT THERE IS -- THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING.

IT'S NOT DELIBERATIVE.

YOU CAN CERTAINLY TALK ABOUT THOUGHTS AND IDEAS BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE COMMISSION UNDERSTANDS THAT.

>> YES.

THANK YOU.

ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO BE FIRST?

>> WHO WOULD LIKE TO GO FIRST?

>> COME ON, SOMEBODY ELSE BRAVE IT UP.

COME ON.

>> FINE, FINE.

I'LL DO IT.

>> I JUST WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING JUST BEFORE IN REGARDS TO MR. BARTON'S STATEMENT THAT HE WOULD RATHER TO SEE THIS IF HE WAS LIVING THERE.

SO UNLESS WE HAVE A SURVEY FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING THERE, THAT STATEMENT CANNOT BE SOMETHING THAT AS A PLANNER WE CAN BANK ON, SO JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT.

OF COURSE, IT'S PREFERENCE, BUT UNLESS WE HAVE A SURVEY, WE CAN'T REALLY USE THAT.

>> I UNDERSTAND.

I'M VERY AWARE OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, AND BEING RAY LONGTIME RESIDENT OF INDIO, I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THE NEEDS OF THAT COMMUNITY.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND START WITH COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ CEJA FIRST.

>> THANK YOU PITCH ACTUALLY GREW UP IN THAT GENERAL AREA.

NOW I LIVE IN A DIFFERENT AREA OF INDIO.

SO I'M NOT COMPLETELY IN AGREEMENT WITH MR. BARTON'S SENTIMENT ABOUT WHAT WOULD BE GOOD FOR THAT PARTICULAR COMMUNITY.

I THINK WE HAVE HEARD A LOT OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS AND PARTICULARLY A LOT OF DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE SOME FOR COMMERCIAL USE.

PEOPLE REALLY ARE INTERESTED AFTER COVID FOR SEEING SMALL, YOU KNOW, YOGURT SHOPS AND SMALL OUTDOOR DINER PLACES AND THINGS LIKE THAT DEVELOPING IN COMMUNITIES THAT ARE GOING TO REALLY CONTRIBUTE TO COMMUNITY COHESION AND REALLY SPRUCE UP THE ECONOMY IN THE COMMUNITY AND IN THE CITY OF INDIO.

JUST MY INITIAL COMMENT, I THINK WITH THE TOPIC OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS, HAVING ALL THE SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN YOUR AREA WOULD PROBABLY BE A GOOD WAY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT I HAVE HEARD FROM SOME OF THE RESIDENTS, LIKE LIVING IN DISTRICT 5 WE HAVE TONS OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS, AND WE KNOW A VERY PARTICULAR TIME OF THE YEAR WHEN THOSE CAN BECOME EITHER PROBLEMATIC OR A NUISANCE, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE THEM THROUGHOUT NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE PEOPLE LIVE CONSISTENTLY.

SO I SEE THE POSITIVE OF A PROJECT IN THIS WAY, BUT I DO HAVE TO SAY MY HESITATION WITH THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING PARTICULARLY NOW IS THAT

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THERE ARE CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE BEING HAD AT THE POLICY LEVEL AS FAR AS TAPPING SHORT-TERM RENTALS, AS FAR AS FIGURING OUT HOW WE ARE A LITTLE MORE DILIGENT ABOUT HAVING OVERSIGHT WHEN THESE DO CREATE A NUISANCE IN CERTAIN COMMUNITIES.

I CAN SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF IT WERE COACHELLA TIME AND EVERY ONE OF THOSE PLACES IS BEING RENTED BY THE FESTIVAL-GOERS, THE NEIGHBORHOOD SURROUNDING IT MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY.

ACTUALLY, I WOULD BE REALLY CURIOUS TO HEAR WHAT PEOPLE WOULD THINK ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE THIS PI ALSO THINK THAT WITH THE HOUSING ELEMENT REVISION THAT WE'RE DOING NOW AND THE ZONING, IT REALLY DOESN'T ALLOW FOR US TO START THINKING ABOUT THOSE HOUSING NEEDS, PARTICULARLY IN OUR CITY.

YOU KNOW, WE WENT, WE'RE DOING REVISION 6, REVISION 5.

WE WERE SHORT -- HAD SHORTCOMINGS IN OUR DEVELOPMENT OF HOUSING FOR PARTICULAR SECTORS.

AND SO JUST MY THOUGHT.

I'M NOT REALLY SURE THAT THIS IS NECESSARILY SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE A GOOD USE FOR THIS PARTICULAR COMMUNITY AND ALSO FOR THE CITY AS A WHOLE.

I THINK SOMETHING LIKE THIS SHOULD NOT -- OR IT'S NOT THE TIME TO BE DISCUSSING SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

I THINK IT'S A CONVERSATION TO BE HAD AFTER COUNCIL HAS MORE DEEP CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND CERTAINLY AFTER, YOU KNOW, WE FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO BE ADDRESSING THE HOUSING NEEDS.

THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ CEJA.

>> JACKIE, YOU'RE MUTED AGAIN.

>> MAYBE I DIDN'T GO THROUGH.

I'M SORRY.

I WAS GOING TO -- I WAS THANKING COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ CEJA AND GOING ON TO YOU.

MY INTERNET IS SPOTTY SO I APOLOGIZE.

>> NO PROBLEM.

WE ALL HAVE TECH PROBLEMS. SO, YOU KNOW, I HAVE SOME SIMILAR CONCERNS AS COMMISSIONER CEJA, BUT AT THE SAME TIME I DO FIND THE CONCEPT AND THE IDEA INTRIGUING.

I DO KNOW THAT WHEN PEOPLE TRAVEL, THEY WANT MORE THAN A HOTEL ROOM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST A NEW WAY OF TRAVELING.

SO EVEN BIG COMPANIES LIKE MARRIOTTS, THEY'RE LOOKING AT HOW DO THEY BRIDGE THE SUPER EXPENSIVE HIGH-END TIME-SHARES THEY HAVE NOW, THE HOTEL ROOMS AND SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS, SO I DO FIND IT VERY INTRIGUING.

MY BIGGEST CONCERN WOULD BE THE NEIGHBORS IN THE AREA AND I DO THINK THAT ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD RECOMMEND WOULD BE THAT THEY DO A SURVEY, YOU KNOW, OR WALK THE STREETS AND TALK TO THE NEIGHBORS AND SEE WHAT THEY THINK BECAUSE MOST OF THE TIME I AGREE IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE A BIG DEAL BUT DURING COACHELLA FEST IT COULD BE A LITTLE BIT TRAUMATIC.

BUT I THINK ALL OF US IN THE CITY DEAL WITH A LITTLE BIT OF TRAUMA BECAUSE THE CONCERTS ARE SO IMPORTANT TO THE WHOLE ECONOMY OF THE ENTIRE COACHELLA VALLEY AND WE WELCOME THEM EVERY YEAR.

SO I'M NOT COMPLETELY AGAINST IT.

I FIND THE IDEA VERY INTRIGUING.

IF THE CITY DECIDED TO REMOVE THE SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTS FROM DOING -- OR REALLY LIMITING THE SHORT-TERM RENTALS, THIS WOULD TAKE UP SOME OF THE THAT NEED THAT IS OUT THERE.

IF IT WASN'T PROFITABLE, IT WOULDN'T BE IN HIGH DEMAND AS IT IS.

SO I'M NOT COMPLETELY AGAINST IT.

THE FACT THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE COMMERCIAL RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET, I THINK THAT WOULD PROVIDE SOME OF THE SERVICES THAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDS.

I DO WORRY THAT COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES AFTER COVID, IT'S GOING TO BE HARDER TO FILL.

PEOPLE HAVE RIDES REALIZED THEY CAN WORK REMOTELY SO A THERE MAY NOT BE AS MUCH OFFICE SPACE, AND WHO KNOWS WHAT IS GOING TO FILL THE EXISTING SPACES AND WHEN NEW AREAS ARE BEGUN.

I'M NOT COMPLETELY AGAINST THIS PROJECT.

I THINK MY BIGGEST CONCERN WOULD BE TO HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY AND I WOULD RECOMMEND TO THE DEVELOPER TO GO OUT AND TALK TO THE COMMUNITY AND SEE WHAT KIND OF FEEDBACK THEY GET AND THEN LET US KNOW.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER FRANZ.

CHAIRPERSON YSIANO.

>> YEAH, I AGREE WITH A LOT OF THE THINGS GLORIA JUST MENTIONED.

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A LITTLE COMMUNITY SURVEY, A COMMUNITY OUTREACH TO SEE ESPECIALLY THE NEIGHBORHOODS OVER TO THE WEST, THEIR THOUGHTS ON THAT, AND I DO APPRECIATE THE APPLICANT BECAUSE INITIALLY I WAS KIND OF THINKING THAT THIS WAS, YOU KNOW, MORE TIME-SHARE, SUPER SHORT-TERM, BUT WHEN I STARTED THINKING ABOUT THE MID TO LONG-TERM, I ACTUALLY NO KNOW A FEW FAMILIES IN THE LAST YEAR THAT HAVE EITHER BEEN MOVING OUT OF CALIFORNIA AND SOLD THEIR HOME BEFORE THEY WERE READY TO MOVE AND NEEDED SOME, YOU KNOW, SHORT TO MID-TERM ACCOMMODATIONS OR PEOPLE WHO

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HAD MOVED OUT FROM OTHER AREAS OF THE STATE AND NEEDED SOME SHORT-TERM RENTALS TO WAIT UNTIL THEIR HOUSE IS EITHER CLOSING ESCROW OR VIRTUALLY FINISHED BUILDING, SO I HADN'T REALLY THOUGHT OF THAT ASPECT, SO I THINK THAT COULD BE A VALUE NOT JUST ONLY TO PEOPLE MOVING TO INDIO BUT MAYBE PEOPLE MOVING TO OTHER AREAS OF THE COACHELLA VALLEY BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF RENTALS AVAILABLE.

IT'S HARD TO FIND PLACES TO RENT FOR TWO, THREE MONTHS AT A TIME SOMETIMES.

SO I'M DEFINITELY OPEN TO HEARING MORE ABOUT THE PROJECT, BUT I WOULD AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER FRANZ, I'D LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

>> CAN I TAKE IT BACK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT? I THINK SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY NEED TO CONSIDER IS WE KNOW PEOPLE ARE MOVING FROM CALIFORNIA BECAUSE OF HOUSING CRISIS THAT WE HAVE.

SO HOUSING IS THE PROBLEM.

HOUSING IS THE NEED, RIGHT? THAT'S WHY WE'VE LOST REPRESENTATION IN THE STATE.

PEOPLE ARE MOVING OUT OF HERE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE HERE.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE NEED TO CONSIDER AS WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT.

AND TO COMMISSIONER FRANZ'S COMMENT, I THINK PART OF THE ISSUES THAT I HAVE HEARD FROM COMMUNITY FOLKS ABOUT SHORT-TERM RENTALS IS THAT WHEN CORPORATIONS OR DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT DON'T LIVE IN THE CITY ARE PROVIDING THE SHORT-TERM RENTALS, WE'RE LOSING THE OPPORTUNITY FOR INCOME-GENERATING OR INCOME-GENERATING OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT DO LIVE HERE.

I KNOW LOTS OF FOLKS WHO LIVE IN THE CITY THAT ACTUALLY WORK AROUND A CALENDAR PARTICULARLY FOR THOSE VERY SPECIAL DATES WHERE THEY KNOW THAT RENTING OUT THEIR HOME, YOU KNOW, THEY TAKE OUT A PERMIT WITH THE CITY AND THEY RENT OUT THEIR HOME THROUGH THESE DIFFERENT TYPES OF SERVICES, AND IT GENERATES A LOT OF INCOME FOR A LOT OF FAMILIES HERE, AND I THINK THAT THE ISSUE THAT I'M HEARING IS NOT THAT IT'S NOT A GOOD THING FOR THE COMMUNITY.

I THINK IT'S JUST WHO IS TAKING THE OPPORTUNITY AND WHO IS TO BENEFIT COMPLETELY FROM THE OPPORTUNITY OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

IS IT THE RESIDENTS OR IS IT OUTSIDE COMPANIES THAT ARE COMING IN AND SORT OF YOU KNOW TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE MARKET? SO I JUST WANTED TO PIGGYBACK AND JUST -- I THINK IT MIGHT BE CONTRARY TO WHAT I PERSONALLY AM HEARING FROM RESIDENTS THAT I'M TALKING TO.

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ CEJA.

IF ANYONE HAS ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE I START MY COMMENTS? OKAY.

SEEING THAT THERE ARE NONE, I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS IS A REALLY BEAUTIFUL PROJECT.

I KNOW IT'S MUCH NEEDED, AND I KNOW WE'RE STILL WORKING -- CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG KEVIN -- ON OUR SHORT-TERM RENTAL POLICIES AND ORDINANCES.

>> SO THE CITY COUNCIL HAS CONDUCTED A STUDY SESSION IN FALL OF 2020 ON SHORT-TERM RENTALS, AND THEY RECEIVED SEVERAL IDEAS AND CONCEPTS FROM OUR CITY ATTORNEY AND OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE WILL BE A FURTHER CONVERSATION, ALTHOUGH I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HAS BEEN SCHEDULED AND I DON'T KNOW WHEN IT WILL BE SCHEDULED, BUT I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT AT SOME POINT THEY WILL PICK THAT CONVERSATION BACK UP.

NO DECISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE AT THIS POINT.

>> OKAY.

THANK YOU.

GOING BACK TO THE PROJECT, AGAIN, I THINK IT'S MUCH NEEDED IN OUR CITY.

HOWEVER, I'M VERY TORN ON THE LOCATION.

I'M VERY PROTECTIVE OF OUR ZONING, ESPECIALLY FOR THE COMMUNITY, THE RESIDENTS THAT HAVE LIVED THERE 30, 40 PLUS YEARS AND THEY'VE BEEN WAITING FOR SOMETHING BECAUSE THEY LOST SOME OF THEY ARE SHOPPING NEEDS.

THEY HAVE TO KIND OF DRIVE ALL THE WAY AROUND TO WINCO.

AND FROM SPEAKING THERE THEM EVERY SO OFTEN WHEN I HAVE TO GO OUT AND SURVEY TO CONSTITUENTS THAT LIVE ON AZTEC STREET OR APACHE WAY YOU KNOW SOME OF THE OLDER FOLK, OUR CONSTITUENTS REALLY WANT TO SEE SOMEWHERE WHERE THEY CAN WALK AND SHOP, AND SO I'M REALLY HANGING ON TO THIS MIXED USE.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S THEN BEEN THE OTHER LOCATIONS THAT STAFF HAS WORKED OR SHARED WITH YOU.

I JUST PERSONALLY FEEL THAT THIS IS A GREAT LOCATION, BUT HAVING MAYBE LOOKED AT OTHER AREAS NEAR THE CASINO OR THE ENTERTAINMENT AREA, BUT I FEEL THAT I WANT --

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I'M TORN, ABOUT IT FEEL THAT WE NEED TO KIND OF STICK TO OUR MULTI-USE ZONING FOR THOSE CONSTITUENTS.

AND I'M REALLY INTERESTED TO SEE, TOO, WHAT THOSE CONSTITUENTS HAVE TO SAY.

AND IF THAT'S CHANGED IN THE LAST YEAR OR SO.

DURING COVID AND CHILDREN A, OR GRANDCHILDREN NEEDED SOME PLACE TO GO AND LOST A LOT OF THE SHOPPING AREAS THAT WERE THERE IN THE '90S OR LATE '80S.

THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT.

I DON'T KNOW IF, STAFF, IF THERE IS ANY KIND OF STUDY WE CAN DO.

I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY UNIQUE THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT TO US.

I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE HAD ANYTHING LIKE THIS BEFORE, CORRECT?

>> THAT IS CORRECT.

WE HAVE HAD INQUIRY ON SIMILAR TYPES OF PROJECTS IN THE LAST YEAR FOR ALL THE REASONS THAT MR. BARTON HAD STATED IN TERMS OF MARKET INTEREST, BUT THIS HAS NOT BEEN DONE YET IN THE CITY BUT THERE HAVE BEEN INQUIRIES.

AND, CHAIR, CAN I MAKE ONE ADDITIONAL COMMENT, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, FOR THE RECORD.

FOR THOSE WATCHING FROM THE PUBLIC AND THE APPLICANT I WANT TO REINFORCE THIS IS A PROJECT CONSULTATION.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS NOT MAKING ANY DECISION.

THE APPLICANT IS FREE TO PURSUE AN APPLICATION AND BRING A FORMAL APPLICATION BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION DEPENDING ON THE NATURE OF THE APPLICATION, IT MAY STOP AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR IT MAY BE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR FOR EVERYONE WHO MAY OR MAY NOT BE CLEAR WITH THE PROJECT CONSULTATION PROCESS, THIS IS JUST A DISCUSSION, AND, YOU KNOW, THE COMMISSION'S COMMENTS AND FEEDBACK ARE JUST THEIR THOUGHTS, EARLY FEEDBACK TO THE APPLICANT AS THE APPLICANT MAKES THEIR DECISIONS ABOUT HOW TO PROCEED NEXT.

>> THANK YOU, DIRECTOR SNYDER.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS?

>> WELL, ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, I WANT TO THANK THE COMMISSION FOR YOUR TIME AND INPUT.

IT'S BEEN VERY, VERY HELPFUL.

YOU'RE RIGHT.

THERE IS A VERY UNIQUE PROJECT AND WE LOOK FORTH TO CONTINUED STUDY ON IT.

>> CHAIR, IF I MAY.

>> YES.

>> THIS IS CITY ATTORNEY HEINSELMAN.

I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF YOU WANT TO CHECK WITH EVELYN TO SEE IF THERE WERE ANY COMMENTS FOR THIS PROJECT OR NOT.

>> EVELYN, ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS?

>> WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS ITEM.

>> THANK YOU, EVELYN.

WITH THAT, IF THERE'S ANY OTHER FURTHER QUESTIONS, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND -- DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GO AHEAD AND CLOSE? CLOSING STATEMENTS? OKAY.

THANK YOU, MR. BARTON.

AND LOOK FORWARD TO YOU WORKING WITH STAFF ON THIS PROJECT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

I JUST LOST MY PLACE.

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OKAY.

NOW WE'RE MOVING ON TO STAFF ITEMS.

>> THANK YOU, CHAIR.

I HAVE TWO ITEMS AND THEN I'LL TURN IT OVER TO SENIOR PLANNER NAMVAR.

FIRST.

IS WE WOULD LOOK LIKE TO GET OUT FOR YOUR SCHEDULING CONSIDERATION SOME POTENTIAL JOINT MEETING OPPORTUNITIES WITH YOUR CITY COUNCIL.

AS YOU ARE WELL AWARE, WE HAVE SEVERAL PROJECTS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A JOINT MEETING BETWEEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON THEM.

SO I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU SOME DATES, AND WE'LL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU WITH EMAILS AND THINGS LIKE THAT BUT I JUST WANTED TO PUT THIS INTO YOUR HEAD.

WE ARE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY JUNE 2ND.

AND THE PATTERN IS WE WOULD LIKE TO DO THESE BEFORE THE REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING WHICH I KNOW MAY IMPACT SOME AVAILABILITY SO YOU'LL NEED TO LET US KNOW.

BUT JUNE 2ND FROM 3:00 P.M.

TO 4:30 P.M.

THIS IS FOR THE HIGHWAY 111 CORRIDOR SPECIFIC PLAN, AND THAT'S A PROJECT WEAR WE'RE WORKING ON TWO-TO-CREATE A NEW SPECIFIC PLAN FOR JEFFERSON STREET TO INDIO BOULEVARD.

AND THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST JOINT MEETING.

WE HAVE HAD THE CONSULTANT WORKING ON THAT SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, AND WE'VE KIND OF REACHED A POINT WHERE WE HAVEN'T -- WE'VE GOT ENOUGH INFORMATION AND HAVE ENOUGH I GUESS BACKGROUND DATA TO BE ABLE TO COME TO THE COUNCIL AND YOURSELVES AND GET YOUR THOUGHTS AND FEEDBACK ON WHAT YOU THINK THE FUTURE HIGHWAY 111 SHOULD LOOK LIKE IN TERMS OF LAND USES, IN TERMS OF JOB OPPORTUNITIES, IN TERMS OF THE PHYSICAL SPACE, THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, SO WE WONT TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY AGAIN.

YOU DON'T NEED TO GIVE FEEDBACK RIGHT NOW BUT YOU WANTED TO PUT THESE OUT FOR YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS, AND WE'LL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU.

THE SECOND ONE, IT WOULD BE ON JUNE 16TH.

AGAIN, FROM 3:00 P.M.

TO 4:30 P.M.

THIS WOULD BE THE SECOND MEETING FOR THE HOUSING ELEMENT UPDATE JOINT MEETING.

WE'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF WORK SINCE WE'VE MET BACK IN JANUARY FOR OUR FIRST JOINT MEETING.

AND WE'RE AT A POINT NOW WHERE WE WANT TO COME BACK TO YOU AND GET YOUR AND THE

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COUNCIL'S FEEDBACK ON SOME KIND OF KEY POLICY CONSIDERATIONS AS WE DIVE INTO THE NEXT PHASE.

SO AS YOU MAY REMEMBER, THIS PROJECT HAS A PRETTY QUICK TIMELINE.

WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE IT WRAPPED UP BY THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR OR JANUARY OF 2022 AT THE LATEST AND SO WE'RE MOVING QUICKLY AND WE'RE AT A POINT WHERE WE THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE A CHECK-IN WITH YOURSELVES AND THE COUNCIL AND GET YOUR THOUGHTS AND PERSPECTIVES ON KEY POLICY CONSIDERATIONS AS WELL AS GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON WHAT WE'VE LENDERS FROM OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AS WELL AS FROM OUR ANALYSIS.

AND THEN THE LAST ONE WOULD BE JULY 21ST FROM 3:00 P.M.

TO 4:00 P.M.

THIS WOULD BE FOR THE ZONING CODE UPDATE PROJECT.

WE'VE BEEN TALKING A LOT ABOUT IT, AND WE'RE AT A POINT NOW WITH OUR CONSULTANT WHERE WE THINK WE ARE IN A GOOD PLACE.

WE HAVE WHAT WE'RE CALLING PARKING LOT ITEMS WHERE WE WANT TO GET YOUR AND THE COUNCIL'S FEEDBACK ON -- AND I KNOW -- I SEE GLORIA IS SHAKING HER HEAD, THAT MAY BE A CONFLICT DATE.

YOU CAN LET US KNOW.

WE'LL TRY THE WORK AROUND, AND IF THERE'S PROBLEMS AND ISSUES, SO THESE ARE TENTATIVE DATES PENDING -- WE'VE TALKED TO THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND THESE ARE ACCEPTABLE DATES FOR THE COUNCIL.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONFLICT WITH OTHER STUDY SESSION ITEMS, BUT IF YOU HAVE CONFLICTS, WE WILL FIND THAT OUT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO PUT THESE INTO YOUR HEAD TO BE THINKING ABOUT.

AND IF WE HAVE TOO MANY CONFLICT, WE'LL FIND A DIFFERENT DATE.

SO JUST HEADS UP WHO THAT.

AND THEN THE OTHER ITEM -- AND WE ARE MAKING NO PLANS, BUT IT IS FEASIBLE IN NOTE TOO EVERYONE DISTANT FUTURE WE WILL BEGIN THE DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLY TRANSITIONING BACK TO EITHER FULL OR HYBRID IN-PERSON MEETINGS.

NOTHING IS BEING PLANNED IMMEDIATELY.

BUT WE DO ANTICIPATE THAT WE WILL LIKELY CONTINUE SOME FORM OF THE ZOOM INTERACTION, EVEN IF WE GET BACK TO FULL IN-PERSON MEETINGS BECAUSE THIS HAS BECOME I THINK A VALUABLE TOOL TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO INTERACT, PARTICULARLY IF THEY'RE UNABLE TO ATTEND IN PERSON OR IF THEY'RE AN APPLICANT THAT'S IN LOS ANGELES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AGAIN, YOU DON'T NEED TO SAY ANYTHING NOW BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY PARTICULAR QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, THOUGHTS OR IDEAS AS WE BEGIN TO BUILD TOWARDS THAT CONVERSATION, WOULD LOVE TO GET THE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMISSION MEMBERS.

AND GLORIA HAS HER HAND UP.

I'LL STOP.

>> I JUSTOFF QUICK QUESTION.

IF WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THE ZOOM, I FIGURED BY JULY 21ST WE'LL PROBABLY BE LIVE, RIGHT? I MEAN IN PERSON MORE THAN LIKELY.

I PROBABLY CANNOT BE HERE LIVE, BUT I COULD PROBABLY BE ON MY IPHONE OR SOME OTHER WAY TO PARTICIPATE.

SO, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF KEEP THAT IN MIND.

IF WE CAN STILL PARTICIPATE IN A VIRTUAL FORMAT, THEN THE 21ST IS PROBABLY FINE FOR ME.

BUT IF IT'S REQUIRED IN-PERSON, THEN THAT DAY IS DEFINITELY OUT.

>> DEFINITELY, I CAN ANSWER THAT RIGHT NOW.

WE WOULD NOT REQUIRE THE IN-PERSON.

OBVIOUSLY IT'S SOMETIMES EASIER TO BE IN PERSON PARTICULARLY LOOKING AT THINGS ON THE SCREEN AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT IF YOU OR OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAD CONFLICT BUT WERE ABLE TO ATTEND VIRTUALLY, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

WE CERTAINLY I THINK WOULD MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

AND ALSO I THINK IN THE FUTURE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WILL WANT TO PARTICIPATE THAT WAY AS WELL.

I DON'T KNOW WHEN EXACTLY -- WE KEEP HEARING JUNE 15TH IS WHEN THE STATE MAY START TO SERIOUSLY THINK ABOUT REOPENING.

NO DECISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE ABOUT IN-PERSON.

THE COUNCIL IS DOING A SMALL HYBRID VERSION.

WE DO HAVE STAFF IN ATTENDANCE RIGHT NOW BUT NOT MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT IN YOUR HEAD TO START THINKING ABOUT.

ZACH MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ABOUT THE BROWN ACT SIDE.

I THINK THERE'S ONGOING DISCUSSIONS WITH THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THE BROWN ACT PROVISIONS ARE CONSISTENT WITH CONTINUED VIRTUAL MEETINGS, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE BRIEF CONVERSATION WITH ROXANNE, OUR CITY ATTORNEY.

STAFF, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING?

>> YEAH, I THINK THAT'S AN ACCURATE STATEMENT.

I KNOW THERE'S BEEN LEGISLATION QUOTED ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT HOW MUCH OF THE CURRENT KIND OF EXPERIENCE THAT WE'VE ALL PARTICIPATED IN BECOMES MORE PERMANENT.

NOTWITHSTANDING THAT, WE'RE STILL IN THE PERIOD OF KIND UNDER THESE EXECUTIVE ORDERS SO THE BIG PREAMBLE THAT I READ AT THE BEGINNING, I THINK THOSE EXECUTIVE ORDERS THAT ALLOW TELEPHONIC OR OTHERWISE PARTICIPATION IS STILL THE CASE NOW.

THERE'S BEEN NO INDICATION THAT THOSE PROVISIONS ARE ROLLED BACK YET.

BUT AS WITH EVERYTHING OVER THE LAST YEAR, THERE WILL LIKELY BE CHANGES AHEAD, SO WE WILL DO OUR BEST TO KEEP EVERYBODY UP TO DATE WITH THOSE AS THEY COME IN.

>> YEAH, AND AS WE BEGIN THAT TRANSITION, IF YOU HAVE THOUGHTS, IDEAS, EXPECTATIONS, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT INTO YOUR THINKING CAP KIND OF MODE.

NO IMMEDIATE CHANGE.

AS ZACH SAID, WE'RE STILL UNDER THE ORDERS.

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BUT THE WAY THAT THINGS CONTINUE TO APPEAR LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO TRANSITION, WE COULD BE CHANGING IN THE NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE.

SO JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.

ANY -- AND WITH THAT I'LL HAPPILY TURN IT OVER TO LEILA FOR ANY COMMENTS SHE HAS.

>> THANK YOU, MR. SNYDER.

I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT TOMORROW AT 5:00 THE INLAND EMPIRE SECTION OF APA HAS ITS AWARD CEREMONY WHICH IS AT 5:00.

IT IS VIA ZOOM.

IF THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO JOIN, I CAN SEND A LINK TO EVERYBODY.

THERE WILL BE A KEYNOTE, SPEAKER, MR. ROSSI BAILEY, AND THERE WILL BE GROUPS, VIA ZOOM WE ARE ABLE TO PUT PEOPLE IN GROUPS SO THEY CAN HAVE SOME DISCUSSIONS REGARDING THIS SPEECH AND ALSO HAVE SOME NETWORKING AND THEN SHARE IDEAS BETWEEN THE INLAND EMPIRE SECTION PLANNERS AND ALSO THE COMMISSIONERS.

SO THAT WILL BE A FUN EVENT AND IT IS VIRTUAL AND IT IS FREE.

ALSO, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY ONE OF OUR PROJECTS, WHICH DIRECTOR SNYDER AND GUSTAVO GOMEZ ARE ASSISTANT/TRANSPORTATION PLANNER WORKED ON, WILL BE GETTING AN AWARD TOMORROW, SO THAT'S EXCITING USE.

SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO JOIN, WE WILL SEND A LINK AND EVERYTHING SO THAT YOU WILL BE ABLE TO JOIN, THAT WILL BE A FUN EVENT.

ALSO I WANTED TO MENTION THAT IN THE MONTH KNEW APRIL, OUR FOUR STAFF, OUR CUSTOMER INTERACTION IS AWESOME.

WE HAD 488 PHONE CALLS.

WE HAD 5,210 EMAILS.

AND WE HAD 166 WRITTEN CORRESPONDENCE.

WE HAD 103 MEETINGS.

AND WE HAD 97 COUNTER INTERACTIONS.

SO -- AND THIS IS IN ADDITION TO THE PROJECTS THAT WE DID, SO I REMEMBER SOME TIME AGO WE WERE ASKED THAT QUESTION, WHY WHEN THE PROJECT COMES TO US, IT TAKES TWO TO THREE MONTHS OR EVEN LONGER TO GET BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

THE REASON IS BECAUSE OF ALL THESE OTHER DAILY ACTIVITIES THAT WE NEED TO ACCOMPLISH IN ORDER TO GET A PROJECT BEFORE YOU.

SO THAT'S JUST A KUDOS TO THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT AND ALSO MY TEAM THAT THEY'RE WORKING TIRELESSLY.

AND WE KEEP DIRECTOR SNYDER ON HIS TOES AND VERY YOUNG AND ACTIVE ALL DAY LONG AND ALL MONTH LONG.

THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT.

>> WHAT HAPPENED.

THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED.

>> I HAD A FULL HEAD OF HAIR WHEN I CAME HERE.

I'M JUST GOING TO ADD QUICKLY TO WHAT LEILA SAID.

WE ACTUALLY TRACK OUR MONTHLY CUSTOMER SERVICE INTERACTIONS IN THE WAY LEILA BROKE THAT DOWN, THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT.

IN APRIL, AND AS PART OF THE NUMBERS LEILA PUT OUT THERE FOR THE PLANNING FOLKS, THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT HAD OVER 22,000 CUSTOMER SERVICE INTERACTIONS ARE, AND THAT'S PHONE CALLS, EMAILS, MEETINGS, INSPECTIONS, AND THESE ARE CONSISTENT NUMBERS.

SO, YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO GIVE CREDIT TO AN AMAZING,UT SMALL BUT MIGHTY TEAM OF STAFF ACROSS THE BOARD, LEILA'S TEAM AND ALL THE OTHER MEMBERS IN THE DEPARTMENT WHO DO AN INCREDIBLE JOB OF PROVIDING GREAT SERVICE AND THE NUMBERS SHOW IT.

WE'RE BUSY, AND IT'S CONSISTENT, AND LEILA'S TEAM -- IT'S ALWAYS A TOSS-UP BETWEEN LEILA'S TEAM AND BUILDING WHO IS GOING TO HAVE THE MOST NUMBERS IN A MONTH BUT LAST MONTH I THINK BUILDING BEAT LEILA BY A HAIR.

>> QUESTION.

INDUSTRY STANDARDS.

I MEAN, IS IT TIME TO LOOK TO ADD A BODY OR TWO OR SOMETHING? I MEAN, THIS IS LIKE -- IT MADE ME TIRED JUST LISTENING TO LEILA.

FORGET ACTUALLY HAVING TO RESPOND TO ALL OF THAT ON A DAILY, MONTHLY, WEEKLY BASIS.

>> YEAH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A FAIR QUESTION.

WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING AT THE STAFFING RESOURCES, AND THE ADDING STAFF, AS YOU CAN -- ACROSS THE BOARD CITYWIDE IS ALWAYS A MEASURED ACTION RELATIVE TO THE FUNDING SOURCES AND THE NEEDS OF ALL DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITY, NOT JUST OUR DEPARTMENT, SO WE'RE CONSTANTLY LOOKING AT THAT, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

WE DID HAVE POSITIONS UNFILLED IN BUILDING THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET -- ARE IN THE PROCESS OF GETS FILLED SO THAT'S HELPING WITH ANOTHER BUILDINGS INSPECTOR, PERMIT TECHNICIAN.

I THINK LEILA CAN ATTEST THAT IT'S A FREQUENT CONVERSATION THAT SHE AND I HAVE.

SO, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS, BUT WE HAVE TO BALANCE IT WITH OTHER NEEDS OF THE CITY AS WELL.

>> THAT MAKES SENSE.

I TRIED TO HELP YOU, LEILA.

>> NO, I'M GOING TO PROTECT PLANNING.

BUILDING DEPARTMENT HAS MORE STAFF, HAS PROBABLY ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX,

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SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE, NINE STAFF.

OF COURSE THEY'RE GOING TO GET MORE INTERACTION.

WE ARE FOUR.

SO BUSTED.

>> NO COMPETITION HERE.

>> ALL RIGHT.

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT BUDGET.

I SAW THAT BUDGET, AND IT LOOKED LIKE DEVELOPMENT WAS MOVING SOME STUFF AROUND, AND I WAS THINKING I HOPE THAT SOME OF THAT MOVING AROUND IS FOR THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

THEY'RE DOING A KILLER JOB AND THEY'RE UNDERSTAFFED.

SO I'M GOING TO BE PAYING CLOSE ATTENTION TO THAT BUDGET.

>> AND I WILL SAY, LEILA, ALL KIDDING ASIDE, LEILA AND HER TEAM, THEY DO AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF WORK AND PROVIDE AN INCREDIBLE LEVEL OF CUSTOMER SERVICE.

YOU KIND OF -- A MARK OF MEASURE IS BY THE NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS YOU GET, AND THE IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, WE DIDN'T GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS, SO THAT'S A REAL TESTAMENT TO LEILA AND HER TEAM'S PROFESSIONALISM AND CUSTOMER SERVICE, AND THAT'S ACROSS THE BOARD.

THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT.

THAT'S EVELYN EVER EVERYONE.

ON THE HOUSING AND INFRASTRUCTURE SIDE.

WE GET MORE KUDOS THAN WE EVER GET COMPLAINTS.

>> THAT'S GOOD, VERY GOOD.

>> AND ALL THE COMPLAINTS ARE BECAUSE OF ME, SO I'LL TAKE THOSE.

>> SOMEBODY'S GOT TO DO IT, LEILA.

SOMEBODY'S GOT TO DO IT.

>> OKAY.

ANY MORE STAFF REPORTS BEFORE I MOVE ON TO COMMISSIONER REPORTS?

>> NO.

THANK YOU FOR THE TIME.

>> THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR DOING SUCH AB AMAZING JOB AND I CAN ECHO EVERYONE'S COMMENTS ABOUT HOW GREAT OF A JOB YOU'RE ALL DOING.

SO THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER COMMENTS.

>> I JUST WANT TO ANNOUNCE THAT THE MUSEUM OPENED.

YAY! WE'RE JUST OPENING ON THE WEEKENDS.

SLOWLY, YOU KNOW, AND SEE HOW IT GOES FOR THE SUMMER.

BUT THE BEST PART IS WE ARE GOING TO HAVE OUR YOUNG IN ARTS SUMMER PROGRAM SO KEEP AN EYE ON THAT ON FACEBOOK AND THE INTERNET.

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IF YOU KNOW PEOPLE'S CHILDREN HAVE BEEN LOCKED UP AS WELL, THIS IS A GREAT WAY FOR THEM TO COME OUT AND LEARN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ART SO I'M EXCITED THAT IS GOING TO BE HAPPENINGS IN IN THE MONTH OF JUNE AT THE MUSEUM.

>> THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER FRANZ.

ANYBODY ELSE? AND IF NOT, IF I CAN GET A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.

>> MOTION TO ADJOURN.

>> SO WE HAVE A SECOND.

IF NOT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND DO ROLL CALL.

>> SECOND.

>> LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO ROLL CALL.

>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ.

>> YES.

>> VICE CHAIRPERSON NICCO YSIANO.

>> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ CEJA.

>> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER FRANZ.

>> YES.

>> MOTION CARRIES 4-0.

THANK YOU.

>> AND IF I MAY JUST CLARIFYING THAT THE MOTION TO ADJOURN TO THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING ON MAY 26TH, WHICH FOR NOW IS SCHEDULED TO BE A VIRTUAL MEETING.

>> I ALWAYS FORGET THAT ONE.

I THOUGHT I HAD EVERYTHING DOWN BUT I ALWAYS FORGET THAT ONE LITTLE THING, THE NEXT MEETING.

SO, YES, THANK YOU, ZACH.

>> THANK YOU.

ZACH IS BACK.

GOOD NIGHT.

>> THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.