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[1. CALL TO ORDER]

[00:00:15]

>> MALE SPEAKER: YEAH.

I THINK THAT'S A GOOD SUMMARY UNDER THE ANNUAL WORK PLAN.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE ALWAYS WANTED TO BE AGO, YOU KNOW, STAY AT THE FOREFRONT OF NEW

[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES – March 23, 2021 Minute Action]

[6. SUSTAINABILITY PLAN and ANNUAL WORK PLAN DRAFT]

TECHNOLOGIES.

I THINK THAT SUMS IT UP ALREADY, ACTUALLY.

WE JUST CONSTANTLY, OUR WORK PLAN IS TO STAY INFORMED ON WHAT IS OUT THERE AND WHAT

[00:05:01]

MAY WORK IN THE FUTURE.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: GREAT.

>> JEFF: AND THEN I THINK THE ONLY THING THAT RESIDENTS CAN DO THAT IS EASY FOR US TO LIST IS, I MEAN, ROOFTOP SOLAR ARE PROBABLY THE ONLY THING THAT AN INDIVIDUAL COULD DO FOR CLEAN ENERGY.

DOES ANYONE ELSE KNOW WHAT AN INDIVIDUAL CAN DO OTHER THAN TALKING TO SOLAR ENERGY PROVIDER?

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: THAT IS -- OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I CANNOT THINK OF ANYTHING.

[00:10:19]

>> JEFF: JUST, IF YOU WANTED SOMETHING TO FILL IN THERE.

>> SPEAKER: YOU KNOW, IF YOU ARE GOING TO ADD SOMETHING THERE, YOU MAY MENTIONED THAT THE ROOFTOP SOLAR IS -- DOES NOT NECESSARILY HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THE HOUSE, IT ACTUALLY CAN HEAT THE WATER FOR THE POOL.

>> JEFF: GREAT IDEA.

>> MALE SPEAKER: OKAY.

SO I THINK IF YOU -- WHAT RESIDENTS CAN DO IS EXPLORE, IF THEY ARE GOING TO, I'M JUST SPEAKING IN GENERAL TERMS HERE, BUT IF THEY ARE GOING TO EXPLORE SOLAR, WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO IS YOU CAN HAVE TO LOOK AT BATTERY STORAGE ALONG WITH THAT AND SOLAR, SOLAR CAN DO SWIMMING POOLS AND OBVIOUSLY SUPPLY THEIR BATTERY STORAGE.

SO BATTERY STORAGE I THINK WILL CHANGE THE DYNAMICALLY THE NEXT YEAR COST WISE AND INSTALLATION WISE, JUST TO SORT OF BE AHEAD OF THE CURVE HERE A LITTLE BIT WITH EXACTLY, LIKE JEFF SAYS, LET'S CONSIDER, LET'S PUT SOMETHING IN THERE TO THAT EFFECT TO DROP IT IN THAT DIRECTION.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: THINK THAT'S GOOD.

WE MAY WANT TO ADD APPEAR TOO THAT FOR US KIND OF TO KEEP OUR, TO LEARN ABOUT THE BATTERY STORAGE, TO STAY ON TOP OF THAT AS WELL.

>> MALE SPEAKER: MAYBE RENEWABLE ENERGY AND STORAGE OPTIONS.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: YUP.

OKAY.

YEAH.

I WILL CLEAN IT UP.

>> MALE SPEAKER: BUT YOU GET THE GENERAL -- >> FEMALE SPEAKER: YEAH.

OKAY.

>> MALE SPEAKER: OTHER THINGS THAT THE RESIDENT STATE CAN DO, MIGHT WE SAY SOMETHING ABOUT CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE AS WELL?

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: I THINK WE WILL GO INTO -- THIS REALLY OVERLAPS WITH THE LOW GREENHOUSE GAS SECTION, THE NEXT SECTION, AND THAT'S WHERE I HAVE A LOT OF THAT.

>> MALE SPEAKER: OKAY, OKAY.

SOON.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: SO WHY DON'T WE MOVE THERE? YEAH, OVERLAPS A LOT.

AND WITH THE EVR, WHICH IS THE SOLAR CHARGER, BUT, YEAH.

LET'S GO INTO THE OVERLAPS SO MUCH INTO THE LOW GREENHOUSE GAS ENVIRONMENT.

IN HERE, THERE IS A LOT ABOUT EV CHARGING.

THIS IS ONE OF THE PARTS OF THE WORK PLAN THAT I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT BUT

[7. CLEAN ENERGY]

THAT I HAVE NOT REALLY GOTTEN STARTED YET.

BUT IDENTIFYING THE POTENTIAL EV CHARGING STATION LOCATION SO THAT WE CAN PUT MORE OUT AS ONE OF THE MORE IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WE CAN DO, BECAUSE WE

[00:15:09]

DO HAVE FUNDING FOR THAT.

IT'S A MATTER OF FIGURING OUT THE BEST PLACES TO PUT THEM.

SO THAT'S DEFINITELY ON OUR WORK PLAN.

HOPEFULLY I CAN GET THAT PROJECT OFF THE GROUND PRETTY SOON.

BUT HERE ALSO, YOU WILL SEE A LITTLE MORE ABOUT HAVING EV CHARGING STATIONS, SCREENING THE BUILDINGS WE HAVE, MAKING THEM MORE ENERGY-EFFICIENT, WORKING WITH BUSINESSES AND TREES, OF COURSE, THE TREE PROGRAM WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER.

AND ALL THAT IS BEING PART OF THE LOW, THE LOW GREENHOUSE GAS ENVIRONMENT.

>> MALE SPEAKER: SOMEWHERE IN THERE, HOW DO WE INTERFACE WITH THE, WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, THAT WHEN THE AUTHOR IS THE NEW WAREHOUSE OR A REMODEL OR TENANT IMPROVEMENTS OR OWNER IMPROVEMENTS OF THE WAREHOUSE, WE TALK ABOUT EV CHARGING STATIONS IN THE PARKING LOT? WHERE DOES THAT FIT IN, IF ANYWHERE? THE REASON I SAY THAT, IS IF YOU LOOK AT TODAY'S NEWS THAT SEAN DAY IS GOING TO BUILD A DEVELOPMENT IN PALM DESERT, PART OF THE CONDITIONS WERE GOLF CART PARKING WITH CHARGING STATIONS AND EV CHARGING STATIONS.

IN THE PUBLIC AND RESIDENTIAL PARKING AREAS.

FOR THE APARTMENTS AND FOR THE COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: I THINK -- >> MALE SPEAKER: I DON'T KNOW IF THAT BELONGS HERE OR SOMEWHERE ELSE.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: NO, I THINK IT BELONGS HERE.

I ACTUALLY THINK THAT I WOULD RATHER PUT IN THE ANNUAL WORK PLAN, BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS A GOOD THING TO DO.

YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST A CONVERSATION.

SO I AM GOING TO PUT -- >> MALE SPEAKER: SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE PRESS RELEASE FOR THAT BUILDING DEVELOPMENT IN PALM DESERT, YOU WILL SEE WHAT THE GUIDELINES ARE FOR CHARGING STATIONS AND GOLF CART PARKING, ELECTRIC VEHICLES.

SO WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO AND IN PALM DESERT STARTED TO THAT WITH A GOLF CART PAST TWO ELECTRIC VEHICLE PASS THROUGH THE SAME LINK.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: RIGHT.

THAT'S A REALLY GOOD ONE.

OKAY.

THAT IS GOOD FOR NOW.

I -- >> MALE SPEAKER: THEN WE WILL FIGURE OUT THOUGHTS WHEN -- YEAH.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: I THINK THAT SOMETHING WE SHOULD AT LEAST OF THE CONVERSATION ON.

IT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT IS BIGGER THAT WILL END UP BEING KIND OF, LIKE I SAID, THE SCHEDULE WILL TAKE LONGER.

BUT THAT'S A GREAT THING TO START OFF WITH, JUST PUTTING A COUPLE NOTES HERE FOR MYSELF.

SO THAT WAS IN PALM DESERT, RIGHT?

>> MALE SPEAKER: YES.

FOR AN EXAMPLE, ON THE WAY OVER TO GOLF CENTER PARKWAY, IF YOU PUT IN EV CHARGING STATION AND FIGURE OUT THE NEW TWO CANCER BAKERY, IT'S BEING BUILT OVER THERE, THAT WOULD REALLY GET YOU A LOT OF EXPOSURE.

NOT ONLY FOR TRAFFIC BUT ALSO ON YELP AND SOCIAL MEDIA.

IT GOES TO THAT START.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: RIGHT.

GOT IT.

YEAH, I THINK THAT'S GREAT.

IF THAT ISN'T SOMETHING THAT CAN BE BUILT INTO THAT NOW, IT IS SOMETHING WE MAY BE

[00:20:03]

ABLE TO ADD.

>> MALE SPEAKER: THEY HAVE NOT POURED THE ASPHALT YET, SO...

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: OKAY.

THAT IS IT.

I THINK IS DEFINITELY A CONVERSATION WE SHOULD HAVE.

OKAY.

GREAT.

>> MALE SPEAKER: YEAH.

IN MY EXPERIENCE, SOME PROJECTS HAVE A MANDATORY REQUIREMENT FOR CHARGING STATIONS AND THINGS.

I HAVE SEEN IT, AND THERE IS PROBABLY SOME LAW IN IT SOMEWHERE.

I AM NOT SURE WHAT IT COMES FROM, BUT I HAVE SEEN IT REQUIRED OF LARGE PROJECTS IN HOSPITALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

[8. LOW GREENHOUSE GAS ENVIRONMENT]

SO, WE PROBABLY ARE READY HAVE SITUATIONS WHERE IT IS MANDATORY.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS MANDATORY IN THE CHOMPY PROJECT.

>> MALE SPEAKER: I THINK IT WAS A REQUEST FROM THE CITY, WAS JUST A REQUEST FROM THE CITY.

SO I DID NOT GET INTO THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL IN IT, THOUGH.

IT WAS JUST DURING THE OVERALL TRANSACTION.

I DID NOT SEE THAT.

IT MUST HAVE BEEN ANY ENTITLEMENTS.

[00:25:03]

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: WOW.

ALL RIGHT.

I'M HAPPY TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

ALL RIGHT.

MOVING DOWN -- >> MALE SPEAKER: DO YOU WANT TO ADD THAT WHAT RESIDENTS CAN DO THERE, SARAH?

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: SURE.

>> JEFF: MR. PATTERSON MENTIONED AND I THINK IT WAS GOOD.

YOU WILL CONSIDER AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE AND ALSO MAYBE CONSIDER TRAVELING VIA BIKE OR GOLF CART FOR SHORT TRIPS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: YEAH.

>> JEFF: WALKING, BIKE, OR GOLF CART FOR SHORT TRIPS OR SOMETHING.

OR MAYBE AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO CARS OR SOMETHING, I DON'T KNOW.

WHATEVER YOU GUYS THINK.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: RIGHT.

I WILL WORDSMITH IT.

I THINK I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE GETTING OUT.

BUT, YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT THING.

DO I NEED TO DRIVE DOWN THE STREET, SOMETHING AS WE BUILD OUT AN INFRASTRUCTURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE TO? DON'T THEY HAVE A CHOICE TO REALLY START THINKING THAT WAY AS WELL?

>> MALE SPEAKER: SURE.

JUST CALL AMAZON.

[LAUGHTER] >> FEMALE SPEAKER: ALL RIGHT.

AND I THINK MAYBE WEATHERIZATION.

SOMETHING THEY CAN LOOK INTO.

ALL RIGHT.

HOW IS THAT? DO YOU HAVE A FEW MORE OR SHOULD WE MOVE ON?

>> MALE SPEAKER: WHAT ABOUT REPLACING APPLIANCES, YOU KNOW? I THINK THERE ARE PROGRAMS FOR, YOU KNOW, INCENTIVIZING APPLIANCES THAT USE LESS ELECTRICITY.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: RIGHT.

>> MALE SPEAKER: I DON'T THINK MY ID HAS ANY, ANYTHING THAT DOES THAT, BUT YOU WILL HAVE AN APPLIANCE PROGRAM I THINK -- I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THE GAS COMPANY DOES EITHER.

>> MALE SPEAKER: WE GOT NEW AIR CONDITIONING.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: YEAH.

THE GAS COMPANY, I AM SURE DOES.

>> MALE SPEAKER: YEAH, WE GOT NEW AIR CONDITIONERS AND GOT SOME KIND OF SUBSIDY ON THEM.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: YEAH.

OKAY.

I WILL TELL YOU WHAT: WE NEED TO WRITE, FIRST OF ALL, WE NEED TO -- WE SHOULD ADD THAT IN SOMEWHERE, RIGHT?

>> MALE SPEAKER: YES.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: AND THEN POSSIBLY -- LET ME PUT CONSIDER UPGRADING -- UPGRADING TO MORE EFFICIENT APPLIANCES.

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OKAY.

>> JEFF: LOOKS GOOD.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: ALL RIGHT.

ZERO WASTE.

THIS ONE, THIS IS A LOT.

THERE IS A LOT IN THE WORK PLAN AND A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS THAT I THOUGHT OF SINCE WEDNESDAY OR SO, FRIDAY WHEN I SENT IT OUT.

BASICALLY, I THINK THAT FOR OUR OBJECTIVE TARGETS, I MEAN, IF YOU LIKE THAT THE

[9. ZERO WASTE]

MANDATES ARE SO OVERWHELMING THAT THOSE ARE REALLY OUR TARGETS, OR REALLY PROBABLY WHAT WE CAN BEST FOCUS ON RIGHT NOW.

IT DOES OPEN UP A WHOLE LOT OF OPTIONS TO DO A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE BROADER SUSTAINABILITY IMPACTS.

SO FOR ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THOUGHT ABOUT WAS THE URBAN GARDEN PROJECT, AND THIS IS BECAUSE 1383 REQUIRES THE CITY TO PURCHASE COMPOST.

AND WE CAN USE A LOT OF IT IN OUR PARKS AND OTHER FACILITIES.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IT AVAILABLE ALSO TO JUST RESIDENTS, LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, IF A RESIDENT -- RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A COMPOST EXCHANGE.

SO FOLKS COME UP AND BRING IN FOOD WASTE AND THEY GET A SMALL BUCKET OF COMPOST.

BUT WHAT IF WE COULD GROW THAT OUT INTO SOMETHING MORE -- SINCE WE HAVE TO PURCHASE IT ANYWAY, IF RESIDENTS WANT TO GET COMPOST, THEY CAN JUST GO PICK IT UP AS LONG AS THE COMPOST FACILITY CAN KEEP A RECORD, AND WE CAN SHOW THAT WE ARE COMPLIANT TO BASICALLY PURCHASE IT, THEN THEY CAN HAVE ALL OF THE COMPOST, MORE OR LESS AS THEY WANT, FOR ANY KIND OF URBAN GARDENING.

BUT ALONG WITH THAT, TO REALLY KIND OF PUSHED THE IDEA OF URBAN GARDENING.

WE HAVE TALKED BEFORE ABOUT HAVING A COMMUNITY GARDEN, WHICH WOULD BE GREAT, BUT IT'S BEEN PRETTY DIFFICULT FINDING AN AREA AND GETTING IT OFF THE GROUND AND ALSO IT WOULD BE IN ONE PLACE THAT IS PRETTY -- IT MIGHT BE HARD FOR EVERYONE TO GET TO WHERE KIND OF AN URBAN GARDENING PUSH WOULD BE JUST GARDENING WITH WHAT SPACE YOU HAVE WHERE YOU ARE.

A LOT LESS CENTRALIZED.

AND IT COULD BE PART OF OUR COMPLIANCE EFFORTS WITH 1383.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I ADDED.

BECOMING ZERO WASTE CERTIFIED, I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THAT, I THINK IT'S A VALID THING WE SHOULD GET DONE.

PROVIDING THE INDOOR WASTE RECEPTACLES, WE ARE DEFINITELY DOING THAT.

WE ARE DOING THAT THROUGH OUR FACILITIES.

AGAIN, IT HELPS US HELP BUSINESSES AND EVERYONE ELSE COMPLY WITH THE NEW MANDATES.

WE ARE GOING TO NEED TO DEVELOP SOME OUTREACH AND WE WILL BE HOLDING OUR SUSTAINABILITY COLLECTION EVENTS.

SO I DO ACTUALLY HAVE ANOTHER -- LET'S GO THROUGH THIS AGAIN, AND LET ME SHARE ANOTHER SCREEN, THE SHOT WITH YOU.

THERE ARE COUPLE THINGS DID WANT TO SHARE.

THE GOLF COURSE? SO ONE OF OUR THINGS AS WE NEEDED TO BASICALLY PROVIDE SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE LIKE THE BARRELS AND THINGS.

THE GOLF COURSE, I BELIEVE IT WAS COMMISSIONER PTAK WHO SAID TO ASK ABOUT THE BOTTLE FILLING STATIONS.

THEY ARE LOOKING INTO IT.

THEY DON'T NECESSARILY -- I GUESS THEY USED TO HAVE AN OLD DRINKING FOUNTAIN.

THEY MAY REPLACE IT IF THEY DO.

WE WILL DEFINITELY GET THEM A BOTTLE FILLING STATION.

IN THE MEANTIME, THEY OF THESE TRASH CANS OUT HERE.

SO THEY ASKED ABOUT THOSE AND WE ASK WHO BOUGHT THEM, WE ARE REPLACING THEM WITH THE NICER ONES ON THE RIGHT.

SO I'M REALLY HAPPY ABOUT THAT.

BUT ALSO, YOU GUYS BROUGHT UP THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT TO BRAND, SOMETHING ON IT THAT HAS SUSTAINABILITY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THESE TWO LOGOS AND KIND OF GET YOUR OPINION ON WHICH ONE.

WHICH WHEN YOU THINK WOULD LOOK NICER ON THE THINGS WE HAVE PUT OUT.

I THINK BRANDING IT IS A REALLY GOOD IDEA.

I DO WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THE FINAL WORD ON WHAT ACTUALLY GOES ON THESE BINS

[00:35:06]

AND SO FORTH WILL COME DOWN TO THE MARKETING DIRECTOR.

BUT IF YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF SOMETHING, EITHER THESE TWO OR SOMETHING ELSE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO PITCH AS THE ACTUAL LOGO THAT GETS YOU ON THESE, THEN I AM HAPPY TO DO THAT.

IF YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE ON WHICH WHEN YOU THINK WOULD BE BETTER.

>> MALE SPEAKER: LIKE THE ONE ON THE TOP.

>> JEFF: THAT WAS MY INITIAL REACTION TOO.

I THINK IT JUST CONVEYS THE SUSTAINABILITY IDEA A LITTLE BETTER, MORE THOROUGHLY.

THE BOTTOM ONE IS A PRETTY GOOD LOOKING LOGO.

IT JUST DOES NOT YELL OUT SUSTAINABILITY AS MUCH, I GUESS, IS WHAT MY INITIAL REACTION WAS.

>> MALE SPEAKER: NO.

IT LOOKS MORE LIKE LICENSE PLATE.

>> JEFF: THERE YOU GO!

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: ALL RIGHT.

THAT IS UNANIMOUS AND DEFINITELY -- I WILL SEE IF SHE'S OKAY WITH IT, THEN WE WILL GO AHEAD AND USE THE TOP ONE.

>> MALE SPEAKER: IN THAT URBAN GARDEN, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE PROMOTING THESE, THESE SMALL GARDENS THAT YOU CAN GROW WITH AN ELEVATED, ELEVATED GARDEN THAT IS UP ON POSTS.

SO RABBITS AND CRITTERS DON'T GET INTO IT.

YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU ARE GROWING TOMATOES AND VEGETABLES AND HERBS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

WHAT IF -- WHAT IF WE HAD OUR CITIZENS DO A GAS SURVEY, ELECTRIC SURVEY UNDERWATER SURVEY FOR USAGE, WHICH WE WOULD OFFER? AND THEN THE BENEFIT OF HAVING COMPLETED THOSE SURVEYS WOULD BE WE WOULD PROVIDE ONE OF THOSE, TWO OF THEM.

MAYBE WE CAN GET A GRANT FOR THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS AN ATTACHMENT SOMEWHERE ELSE WITH IT MONEY AVAILABLE FOR CERTAIN THINGS.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: YEAH.

>> MALE SPEAKER: DOES NOT HAVE TO BE HUGE.

IT CAN BE SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE CAN USE ON A PATIO OR A SMALL YARD WITH THE ADVANTAGE OF IT BEING IS YOU DON'T NEED A PLACE TO START THE GARDEN.

OF ITS ELEVATED, IT'S GOT ITS OWN FOUR FEET AND YOU PUT THE COMPOST AND IT AND YOU START A GARDEN.

>> MALE SPEAKER: YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK YOU CAN GROW PLANTS IN COMPOST DIRECTLY.

IT IS INTENDED AS AN AMENDMENT OR AN ENHANCEMENT TO GARDEN SOIL.

>> JERRY TRACK: NO, BUT WHAT WE ARE TRAINED TO DO IS GET PEOPLE TO GO IN THAT DIRECTION.

>> MALE SPEAKER: YEAH.

I JUST DON'T THINK YOU CAN PUT COMPOST IN A POT AND PLANT PLANTS AND IT.

YOU NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING ELSE IN IT AS WELL.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: OKAY.

I KNOW OF FOUR PEOPLE -- I WAS ACTUALLY TALKING TO SOMEONE TODAY WHO DO SOME GARDENING JUST AT HER HOUSE.

SO MAYBE I CAN ASK FOR WHAT SHE USES.

AND NOTE -- SHE DID SAY SHE HAD TO BUY COMPOST, AND THERE'S NO WAY THE SOIL IN HERE JUST AS YOU HAVE TO ADD IT.

BUT MAYBE JUST ADDING -- I WILL ASK.

THERE IS GOING TO BE A LOT OF -- I THINK WE WILL HAVE TO DO THAT ANYWAY, BECAUSE IF WE ARE GOING TO HELP PEOPLE DO THIS, WE WILL HAVE TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS LITERALLY, LIKE HOW TO GET STARTED.

ENERGY EFFICIENT?

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: YEAH --

>> MALE SPEAKER: YEAH, YOU NEED TO MIX THE COMPOST.

IT'S INTENDED TO BE USED AS A COVERING ON THE SOIL.

IT KEEPS DOWN THE GROWTH OF WEEDS.

AND THEN TO THE EXTENT THAT IS SPADED INTO THE SOIL, IT ENHANCES THE QUALITY OF THE SOIL, PARTICULARLY HERE WHERE OUR SOIL IS, YOU KNOW, VERY POOR IN NUTRIENTS AND IT DOES NOT DRAIN WELL.

SO ADDING THE ORGANIC MATTER TO THE SOIL HERE CAN BE BENEFICIAL TO BEING ABLE TO GROW A GARDEN PLANTS.

YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS GROWING PLANTS IN CONTAINERS, HERE IS CONCERNED, IN WINTERTIME IT WORKS FINE.

IN THE SUMMERTIME, GROWING PLANTS IN CONTAINERS CAN BE VERY CHALLENGING BECAUSE THEY DRY OUT VERY QUICKLY BECAUSE OF THE HEAT AND THE LACK OF HUMIDITY.

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AND CONSEQUENTLY, YOU SOMETIMES HAVE TO WATER PLANTS IN CONTAINERS EVERY SINGLE DAY OUT HERE AND THE PLANTS QUITE OFTEN NEED TO BE SHADED AS WELL BECAUSE THE ROOTS HEAT UP AS A RESULT OF THE CONTAINER BEING IN THE AIR, AND THE ROOTS HEAT OUT, YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF MOISTURE BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO WATER CONTINUALLY, THEY CAN GET DAMPING OFF AND OTHER FUNGUS DISEASES.

SO CONTAINER GARDENING, I MEAN, IT IS CHALLENGING OUT HERE.

YOU KNOW, YOU NEED TO KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING IN ORDER TO BE SUCCESSFUL AT IT.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: I THINK FOR SURE THAT IF WE DO THIS, IT NEEDS TO BE SIMPLE.

SO WE WILL HAVE TO SEE IF WE CAN BRING IT DOWN TO SOMETHING THAT I COULD DO.

SO THE PROJECT WOULD HAVE TO BE LIKE SOMETHING MAY BE MORE SPECIFIC TO HEAR IS THIS SPECIFIC TIME OR PLANT THAT GROWS IN THE SEASON, LIKE IN THE COLDER WINTER MONTHS, HERE ARE SOME SEATS FOR THAT.

WE WILL JUST START THERE, MIX THIS WITH THAT.

WE WILL DEFINITELY HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT, THEN.

IF IT IS TOO HARD, PEOPLE WILL JUST GET FRUSTRATED WITH IT, OBVIOUSLY.

>> MALE SPEAKER: IS IT INTENDED TO BE GROWING FOOD OR IS IT GOING ANY KIND OF PLANTS? WHAT IS THIS FOCUSED ON?

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: EITHER FOOD OR SPECIFIC PLANTS LIKE POLLINATORS, ONE OR THE OTHER.

>> MALE SPEAKER: YEAH.

I MEAN, TREES ARE NICE BECAUSE THEY CREATE SHADE, WHICH CAN LOWER YOUR ENERGY COSTS IF IT SHADES YOUR HOUSE.

AND THERE ARE PROGRAMS TO PLANT TREES.

BUT THE ISSUE THERE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE TREES THAT DO WELL OUT HERE IN THE DESERT ARE MORE LIMITED THAN THE KIND OF TREES THAT YOU CAN GROW IN COASTAL CALIFORNIA.

YOU KNOW, WE DO WITH MOSQUITOES AND PALO VERDE'S AND INDIAN ROSEWOOD INDICATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT YOU ALSO NEED TO SELECT THOSE VERY CAREFULLY THROUGH THE EXTREME HEAT WE HAVE IN THE SUMMERTIME OUT HERE.

YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T SEE A LOT OF VEGETABLE GARDENS IN PEOPLE'S YARDS OUT HERE IN THE DESERT.

I AM SURE YOU'VE NOTICED THAT BEFORE.

AND IT'S CHALLENGING.

I MEAN, I GROW KALE AND CORN AND PEPPERS AND TOMATOES AND THINGS IN MY BACKYARD IN CONTAINERS.

AND I HAVE TO PLANT EVERYTHING REALLY EARLY IN THE WINTERTIME TO HOPEFULLY GET ANY KIND OF A CROP BEFORE THE WEATHER GETS SO HOT THAT IT JUST KILLS EVERYTHING.

AND YOU MAY NOTICE THAT AT THE FIELD OVER THERE BY MADISON PRODUCE.

YOU KNOW, THEY GROW STRAWBERRIES IN THE WINTERTIME.

THEY DO GREAT IN THE WINTERTIME.

BUT, YOU KNOW, ONCE THE SUMMER COMES AROUND, EVERYTHING GETS ZAPPED.

SO, YEAH, YOU HAVE THE DIFFICULT SOIL HERE.

IT'S NOT, AT LEAST WHERE I LIVE, IT DOES NOT DRAIN WELL.

BUT, I MEAN, IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD DO SOMETHING.

BUT I THINK IT HAS TO BE THOUGHT OUT VERY CAREFULLY.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: OKAY.

I AGREE.

IT IS NOT -- YEAH, IT'S COMPLICATED.

AND IT WOULD HAVE TO BE MADE SIMPLE, AND WE CAN'T MAKE IT SIMPLE ENOUGH FOR EASY ENOUGH, THEN IT WILL NOT WORK.

PEOPLE ARE REALLY JUST GOING TO GET FRUSTRATED, AND WE DON'T WANT THAT.

>> MALE SPEAKER: WILL THEN YOU PROVIDE THESE PEOPLE WITH THESE SEEDS IN A BUNCH OF POTS AND THEY GO HOME AND THEY JUST, YOU KNOW, COLLECT DUST.

IT'S KIND OF DEFEATING THE WHOLE PURPOSE, DOESN'T IT? YOU KNOW, IF YOU LIVED IN OREGON OR SOMEPLACE LIKE THAT, YOU GIVE SOMEONE A POT AND SOIL AND SOME SEED AND YOU HAVE THIS BEAUTIFUL, LUSH, YOU KNOW, HERB POT IN THEIR FRONT YARD.

BUT IT'S A LITTLE HARDER HERE.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: AGREED.

WE WILL DEFINITELY PUT THAT ON HOLD AND TRY TO KIND OF THINK THAT THROUGH A LITTLE BIT MORE.

INTO -- LET ME PULL THIS UP NEXT.

TO THAT GRANT, THESE WERE THE ELIGIBLE TYPE OF PROJECTS.

[00:45:18]

SO THERE IS THE GRANT OUT THERE, AND IT'S MORE FOCUSED ON I THINK FOR US THE MUNICIPAL FOOD WASTE REDUCTION.

SO KIND OF STOPPING FOOD WASTE AT THE SOURCE.

GENERATE COMPOST MATERIAL, IMMUNE, WE PRETTY MUCH HAVE TO DO THAT.

THIS IS THE NATIONAL GRANT.

SO IN CALIFORNIA, THAT'S ALREADY MANDATED.

THERE IS REALLY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT MORE WE COULD DO WITHOUT.

INCREASE ACCESS OF AGRICULTURAL PRODUCERS TO COMPOSTED AND MATERIAL, THAT IS HAPPENING.

PROTECH AND THE OTHER I WOULD SAY RECYCLING A LOT OF THEIR COMPOSTED FARMERS UNABLE HAVE PLENTY OF A LITTLE BIT.

THEY HAVE ACCESS.

SO THERE IS NOT -- BECAUSE OF THE MANDATE, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE IS MUCH HERE THAT WE ARE NOT ALREADY DOING WHERE THEY CAN REALLY HELP US.

AGAIN, IT'S A NATURAL -- IT'S A NATIONAL GRANT.

REDUCING MUNICIPAL FOOD WASTE IS PRETTY MUCH I THINK WHERE I SAW THE MOST POTENTIAL, IF WE COULD COME UP WITH A PROJECT AROUND THERE.

I BELIEVE IT IS THE -- THE GRANT IS FROM 45,000 TO 90,000.

THERE IS A MATCH, BUT WE CAN MATCH THAT WITH OUR RECYCLING FUNDS, IF IT -- IT ALMOST MATCHES THAT BECAUSE OF 1383, EVERYTHING THAT WE DO IS FOOD WASTE DIVERSION IS BASICALLY TOWARD COMPLIANCE.

>> JEFF: I HAD ONE THING THAT CAME TO MIND WHEN REVIEWING THIS.

HAS ANYONE EVER HEARD OF GO BOKASHI, BOKASHI? AT SOME COMMENTS CALLED A BOKASHI COMPOSTING.

SOMETHING I LEARNED RECENTLY.

IS NOT REALLY COMPOSTING, THOUGH.

IS FERMENTING.

AND WHAT YOU NEED IS A BUCKET, AND YOU CAN PUT A LOT OF FOOD SCRAPS IN IT.

AND YOU CAN ADD EVEN MORE THAN THE TRADITIONAL COMPOSTING.

SO YOU CAN PUT MEAT AND DAIRY PRODUCTS, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO MIX IN WHAT IS CALLED BRAN.

SO IT'S JUST SOME MATERIAL THAT THEN FERMENTS ALL OF YOUR KITCHEN SCRAPS, ANDY KEEP ADDING IT TO THIS CONTAINER, THEN YOU ADD MORE OF THIS BRAND ON TOP.

AND THEN WHEN YOU FILL YOUR CONTAINER, YOU JUST LEAVE IT SEALED AIRTIGHT FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS, AND IT ACTUALLY FERMENTS EVERYTHING INSIDE, AND THEN AT THAT POINT, IT IS READY TO -- IT CAN BE JUST BE MIXED WITH REGULAR COMPOSTING OR JUST BURIED IN THE DIRT OUTSIDE.

SO I GUESS THE FINEST PROJECT IS CALLED LIKE A PRE-COMPOST.

AND IT IS THE ONLY THING THAT I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO RESEARCH THAT YOU COULD DO SOME SORT OF COMPOSTING AT HOME, EVEN IF YOU DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, LIKE A BIG OUTDOOR AREA, SAY HERE IN A CONDO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IT'S ALL CONTAINED IN THIS LITTLE CONTAINER.

I HAVE NOT TRIED IT MYSELF.

IT'S JUST A LEAD THAT I CAME UP WITH THAT SEEMED LIKE SOMETHING PEOPLE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO AT HOME OR LIKE A SCHOOL PROJECT OR SOMETHING.

>> MALE SPEAKER: THAT SOUNDS -- >> FEMALE SPEAKER: NEVER HEARD OF IT.

>> MALE SPEAKER: YEAH.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: IF YOU WANT ME TO LOOK INTO IT MORE, I WILL.

>> MALE SPEAKER: WHAT ABOUT PEOPLE PUTTING PIGS IN THEIR BACKYARDS THROWING SCRAPS TO THE PIGS? YOU KNOW, I AM KIND OF JOKING, BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT IS WHAT PEOPLE IN MEXICO DO.

IN THESE RURAL COMMUNITIES, THEY HAVE PIGS IN THEIR BACKYARD AND THE PIGS EAT ALL OF THE FOOD WASTE AND THEN YOU GET HAM AND BACON.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: RIGHT.

AND I DO BELIEVE THAT IN THE CHART FOR THE FOOD WASTE, FOOD WASTE RESOURCES, THAT THE WAY THEY WOULD, THE WAY POWER CYCLE ONCE EVERYONE TO LOOK AT IT, IS WHAT CAN BE

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USED FOR HUMANS FIRST AND THEN ANIMAL FEED AND THEN, THINK THERE WAS ANOTHER STEP.

NONETHELESS, REALLY, OR MAYBE THE NEXT STEP IS.

COMPOSTING AND THEN THE LAST WOULD BE IN A LANDFILL.

BUT THEY DO MAKE THAT HIERARCHY AND THEY DO WANT FOOD TO BE USED AND THE BEST WAY BEFORE IT'S EVEN COMPOSTED OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

>> MALE SPEAKER: WHEN WE HAD THE GROUP COME IN AND TALK TO US ABOUT HOW THEY BUY THE FOOD WASTE FROM THE GROCERY STORES AND USED FOR ANIMAL FEED, REMEMBER THAT?

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: YEAH.

THEY MAKE ANIMAL FEED, RIGHT? AND THEY COLLECT FOOD WASTE AND THEN THEY MAKE ANIMAL FEED WITH IT.

I CAN'T THINK OF THE COMPANY.

>> MALE SPEAKER: I THINK IT WAS IN COACHELLA.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: IT IS IN COACHELLA, YES.

THEY CAME AND TALKED TO US BECAUSE WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT OPTIONS WE HAVE FOR HAVING FOOD WASTE COLLECTED WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY AND BUSINESSES.

AND I THINK THE ISSUE WITH THEIR COMPANY IS OUR FRANCHISE AGREEMENT AND THAT PROTECH IS THE ONLY ONES THAT CAN LEGALLY COLLECT FOOD WASTE IN MOST OF THE VALLEY, BUT CERTAINLY IN INDIO, AND I BELIEVE IT'S A CONFLICT WITH THAT.

SO THEY DO USE IT OR THEY DO DO THAT, BUT THEY CANNOT COLLECTED IN A WAY THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER OPTION OF FOOD WASTE COLLECTION FOR BUSINESSES.

BUT THEY ARE THERE AND THEY DO DO IT.

>> MALE SPEAKER: SO DO WE NEED FOR BUSINESSES OR FOR RESIDENTS? ON THE FOOD WASTE?

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: I'M SORRY, WHAT?

>> JERRY TRACK: CAN WE USE IT FOR RESIDENTS OR DO WE NEED TO HAVE IT FOR BUSINESSES?

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: FOR RESIDENTS AS WELL, BOTH.

BUT RESIDENTS WILL NOT BE AS DIFFICULT, BECAUSE THEY HAVE A GREENWAYS BARREL.

AND THAT IS WHAT WE WILL USE.

SO IT WILL BE YET ANOTHER SERVICE.

>> JERRY TRACK: YEAH.

I'M SORRY.

>> MALE SPEAKER: THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

GO AHEAD.

ARE WE JUST GOING TO THROW IT IN THE GREENWAYS BARREL NOW, IS THAT THE PLAN?

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: IT'S NOT THAT SIMPLE.

NOTHING EVER IS! WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, WHAT I DON'T LIKE, IS THAT WE ARE GOING TO OUTREACH THAT YOU CAN PUT YOUR FOOD WASTE INTO PLASTIC BAGS AND PUT THE PLASTIC BAGS IN YOUR COMPOST BIN.

I DON'T LIKE THAT AT ALL, BUT THERE'S A COUPLE REASONS FOR IT.

ONE, THE COMPOSTING PROCESS MUCH DIFFERENT THAN A REGULAR MATERIAL PROCESSING FACILITY, LIKE A MORRIS.

PLASTIC BAGS GET CAUGHT UP IN THE MILES PER HOUR'S OPERATIONS AND MACHINERY, AND IT'S JUST BAD AND CLOG THINGS UP.

BUT THE COMPOSTING, BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS SO DIFFERENT, THEY ARE ABLE TO TAKE THE PLASTIC BAGS OUT.

AND WE HAVE TO GET AHEAD OF FOOD WASTE SEPARATED FROM THE GREEN WASTE BECAUSE THE ONLY OPTION WE HAVE IN THE VALLEY IS COMPOSTING.

INTO COMPOSTED CORRECTLY, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A VERY SPECIFIC RATIO OF FOOD WASTE TO YOUR COMMON GREEN WASTE.

IT HAS TO BE SEPARATED SO WE CAN BE MIXED TOGETHER IN THE RIGHT RATIO.

AND IF WE DON'T DO IT IN ONE BARREL, ALL IN YOUR GREEN BARREL, THEN WE HAVE TO SEND A WHOLE ANOTHER TRUCK AROUND AND HAVE A WHOLE ANOTHER SERVICE AND THE COST FOR THAT ARE JUST GOING TO BE TOO MUCH.

SO RIGHT NOW, THE PLAN WILL BE TO ASK RESIDENTS TO PUT FOOD WASTE IN A PLASTIC BAG, KEEP IN YOUR FREEZER UNTIL TRASH DAY, THERE WOULD IN THE GREEN BEEN AND THEN IT WILL GET COMPOSTED AND THE PLASTIC BAG REMOVED.

>> JERRY TRACK: OKAY.

THE OTHER DEAL IF YOU LOOK AT IT, IS THEY DO MAKE A THREE TO FIVE GALLON COMPOST PAIL THAT IS ALMOST LIKE THE TRASH MASHER.

IT'S GOT A BAG THAT FITS INSIDE OF IT AND HAS A CHARCOAL FILTER ON IT.

SO, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A COMBINATION OF -- AND THOSE COMPOST BAGS, THEY SELL THOSE THAT TARGET.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: I'VE HEARD THAT THEY ARE MAKING COMPOSTABLE BAGS NOW THAT ARE ACTUALLY COMPOSTABLE.

SO I'M HOPING THAT'S GOING TO BE A GOOD OPTION TO AT LEAST HAVE THAT -- >> JERRY

TRACK: [INAUDIBLE] >> FEMALE SPEAKER: OKAY.

THAT IS THE PLAN AND HOPEFULLY IT WILL BE COMPOSTABLE BAGS THAT IF SOMETHING DOES FIT THERE, IS ACTUALLY COMPOSTABLE BAG.

THAT IS, YEAH.

THERE IS A LOT GOING ON WITH FOOD WASTE.

IT IS A LOT OF MANDATES, BUT THERE IS OPPORTUNITIES IN IT AND I THINK THAT THAT IS WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO KIND OF KEEP IN MIND AS FAR AS BRANCHING OUT.

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THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO DO TO MAKE THIS PROGRAM THAT REALLY HELPS WITH FOOD WASTE AND SO FORTH IN GENERAL.

AND THEN I HAVE DOWN THE CONSIDERING THE CIRCULAR ECONOMY, BECAUSE COMMISSIONER BENSON'S COMMENTS ABOUT WORKING WIT ELECTRONICS.

I BELIEVE, COMMISSIONER DAVID, YOU SENT SOMETHING FROM THE CHAMBER THAT THERE WAS SOMEBODY WHO IS DOING SOME OF THIS ELECTRONIC REPROCESSING AND GETTING IT TO PEOPLE WHO NEEDED OR STUDENTS WHO NEEDED.

AND I HAVE CONTACTED HIM.

HOPEFULLY WE WILL BE ABLE TO SIT DOWN AND TALK A BIT.

I WOULD LIKE TO LEARN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT HE DOES.

IN THE MEANTIME, SINCE THAT KIND OF SECTION SEEMS TO BE PRETTY WELL DEVELOPED, HERE EVEN THE COACHELLA VALLEY, THEN WE MAY CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, BEFORE WE CONSIDER OTHER OPTIONS IN A CIRCULAR ECONOMY IS WHAT IS HERE AN MAYBE MAP OUT WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE AND START SEEING WHERE THE GAPS COULD BE FILLED.

>> JEFF: YEAH.

I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA INTEGRATE GOAL IS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF WHAT IS ALREADY EXISTING RATHER THAN BUILDING EVERYTHING ON OUR OWN.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: YEAH.

THIS SECTION WILL NEED A BIT MORE WORK, BUT, AGAIN, WHERE THERE IS SO MUCH MANDATE, THERE IS ALSO OPPORTUNITY.

THE RESIDENTS CAN DO A LOT.

WE WILL HAVE TO WORK ON THAT.

>> JEFF: YEAH, DEFINITELY.

JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE ARE STILL ON THE PDF, THE GRAND PDF.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: OH, RIGHT.

>> JEFF: ON THE SHARED SCREEN.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: YEP.

MOVING ALONG HERE IN THE PLAN, DIVE TO GET BACK TO THAT.

OKAY.

SO I JUST MOVED DOWN FROM THE WORD PLAN.

OF COURSE THERE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE, WHICH ARE PRETTY

[10. WATER RESOURCES]

SUBSTANTIAL.

AND THEN THE WATER CONSERVATION RESOURCES, I WILL WORK WITH RWA TO HAVE IT MORE FILLED OUT FOR THE NEXT MEETING, AND THEN FINALLY KIND OF OUR OVERALL

[11. SUSTAINABLE ENVIRONMENT, LAND USE and TRANSPORTATION]

SUSTAINABLE ENVIRONMENT LAND-USE AND TRANSPORTATION.

THIS IS, AGAIN, THE POLICY, I WANT TO PUT IN THERE, BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THAT FELL THROUGH THE CRACKS AS WELL.

SO, AGAIN, HAVING THIS WORK PLAN IS REALLY HELPFUL WITH THAT.

I ALSO PUT THE BIKE LANES AND THE MAP OF THE ELECTRONIC VEHICLE LANES THAT HAVE COME UP A COUPLE TIMES ON THE LIST.

AGAIN, IT IS UP TO YOU, WHAT YOU WANT TO MOVE IN THE WORK PLAN, WHAT YOU WANT TO LEAVE, TAKE OUT, THINGS LIKE THAT.

I KNOW I JUST SAID THIS TO YOU FAIRLY RECENTLY, SO, AGAIN, AS I PUT IN THE EMAIL, NEXT MEETING WE CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IF YOU HAVE MAJOR CHANGES THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE.

BUT THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE SO FAR.

MOST OF IT ARE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT, AND THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS FROM THE GENERAL UPDATE THAT I'VE ADDED.

>> JEFF: LOOKS GREAT TO ME.

>> JERRY TRACK: YEAH.

IS THERE A WAY IN THIS PLAN THAT WE CAN STEER THE RESIDENCE TO THE WEBSITE THAT'S GOT THE CITY CHARGING FACILITIES FOR EV AND THE BIKE AND ELECTRIC VEHICLE LANES AND TIE IT IN WITH A PROMOTION OF THE USE OF THE CV LANE?

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: ALL RIGHT.

LET'S SEE.

THESE ARE JUST REMINDERS.

INCLUDE INDIO EV -- WE HAVE A COUPLE.

LET'S PUT A COUPLE OF THEM IN THERE.

>> JERRY TRACK: OKAY.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: AND -- OKAY.

>> JERRY TRACK: AND THEN THE ACTUAL, THE ACTUAL -- >> FEMALE SPEAKER: THIS IS ACTUALLY -- YEAH.

>> JERRY TRACK: YEAH.

ON THE WEBSITE.

AND THE REASON I AM SUGGESTING THAT IS BECAUSE THE CITY OF LA QUINTA HAD A MAP ON THEIR WEBSITE FOR ALL OF YOUR HIKING TRAILS, BUT NOBODY COULD GET TO IT.

IT WAS THERE, BUT THEY HAD TO CHANGE IT TO MAKE IT USER FRIENDLY.

IT HAD TO BE LISTED AS WHAT IT WAS.

IT WAS NOT LISTED AS A GUIDE TO HIKING TRAILS IN THE CITY OF LA QUINTA, IT WAS

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LISTED UNDER SOME OTHER HEADING THAT DID NOT TELL YOU WHAT IT REALLY WAS.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: ALL RIGHT.

THIS IS REALLY RELEVANT AND A REALLY GOOD IDEA, AND IT REALLY DOES HAVE TO BE USABLE, AND I'M UNABLE TO FIND IT BUT I THINK THAT IS A GREAT ADDITION TO THE WORK PLANS.

>> JEFF: ON THIS CATEGORY, SARAH, WOULD WE NECESSARILY HAVE ANY MANDATES THAT WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT FILLING IN?

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: YOU KNOW, IT'S SUCH A BROAD CATEGORY THAT, NO, MOST OF THE OTHER MANDATES, I HAVE PUT INTO THE OTHER CATEGORIES.

THERE IS NOTHING I CAN THINK OF OFFHAND THAT WE HAVE TO DO FOR THIS CATEGORY.

>> JEFF: AND SO, THEN OBJECTIVES AND TARGETS, WE COULD PROBABLY ALMOST PULL THOSE FROM THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN FOR THE GENERA PLAN UPDATE, BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE IT WILL BE A PRETTY BROAD, CREATE A SUSTAINABLE ENVIRONMENT AND SUSTAINABLE LAND USE AND TRANSPORTATION.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: YEAH.

YEAH.

>> VICE CHAIR DAVIED: OR DO YOU WANT US TO TRY TO BRAINSTORM SOMETHING ELSE? IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THIS IS THE GENERAL CATEGORY THAT WE PROBABLY ALREADY HAVE DEFINED.

>> FEMALE SPEAKER: YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE CAN BUILD THEM OFF OF THE WORK PLAN.

SO MAYBE IN THIS ONE, IT WOULD BE SOMETHING LIKE AND INCENTIVIZE THE ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION ROUTES, KIND OF LIKE WE DID -- THIS MIGHT BE IN ANOTHER SECTION.

IT KIND OF ALL ROLES TOGETHER, BUT OPTIONS, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO, LIKE, ACTUALLY, LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, ACTUALLY GET PEOPLE TO CONSIDER AND USE OR AT LEAST -- HOW ABOUT MAKE, MAKE IT MORE AVAILABLE, LIKE THAT INFORMATION THAT WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT ON THE WEBSITE WOULD MAKE IT MORE KNOWN AND AVAILABLE.

SO MAYBE THE OBJECTIVE IS JUST NOT SO MUCH TO INCENTIVIZE IT, BUT TO OUTREACH IT, EDUCATE AND OUTREACH.

YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING.

>> COMMISSIONER TRACK: GOOD IDEA.

>> SARA TOYODA: SO MAYBE WE CAN BUILD THAT KIND OF FROM HERE.

HAND DEFINITELY, WE CAN LOOK AT THE GPU AND SEE WHAT FITS INTO THIS AS WELL FOR SURE.

THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN, I'M TRYING TO FILL IN THE OBJECTIVES FOR THE CLEAN ENERGY OUT OF THAT.

BUT DEFINITELY, WE WILL LOOK AT SOME OTHER PLANS AND SEE IF WE CAN'T WORK THOSE IN AND WE WILL LOOK AT WHAT WE ARE DOING AND SEE IF WE CAN MAKE, COME UP WITH REASONS WHY WE ARE DOING IT AND FOR THOSE TARGETS OR OBJECTIVES.

OKAY? SO THIS IS GREAT.

THIS IS ACTUALLY REALLY HELPFUL.

>> VICE CHAIRMAN DAVIED: YEAH.

I FIGURED, YOU KNOW, SINCE WE DID NOT HAVE ANY GUESTS OR ANYTHING ON THIS MEETING, WHILE WE ARE ALL TOGETHER BRAINSTORMING, IF WE COULD KNOCK OUT A LITTLE BIT OF IT.

I TEND TO COME UP WITH BETTER IDEAS AND WE ARE ALL BOUNCING THEM OFF OF EACH OTHER RATHER THAN BETWEEN MEETINGS SOMETIMES WORD FEELS LIKE YOU'RE TRYING TO PULL SOMETHING OUT OF THIN AIR.

I THINK MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS JUST HAVE GREAT IDEAS!

>> CHAIRMAN PATTERSON: I AGREE WITH THAT, DEFINITELY HAVING A DISCUSSION MAKES A LOT OF PROGRESS IN A RELATIVELY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.

>> SARA TOYODA: OKAY.

SO I WILL TAKE THIS BACK, CLEAN IT UP AND REFINED SOME MORE AREAS AND WORK WITH IWA.

THEN WE WILL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IT AT THE NEXT MEETING.

AGAIN, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DO THIS SO THAT IT KEEPS IN THE PUBLIC, GIVES THE PUBLIC AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK.

OKAY.

SO WE FINISHED LEFT.

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>> CHAIRMAN PATTERSON: WHERE ARE WE NOW? WE -- SARA, WE WANT TO HELP ME OUT HERE?

>> SARA TOYODA: WE JUST GOT INTO THE LEGISLATIVE UPDATES, BUT ACTUALLY I DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING OUT FOR THAT.

WE HAVE KNOWN UNDER THE LEGISLATIVE UPDATES FOR TODAY.

>> CHAIRMAN PATTERSON: OKAY.

COMMISSIONER COMMENTS?

[13. COMMISSIONER COMMENTS]

DO WE HAVE ANY COMMISSIONER COMMENTS?

>> COMMISSIONER TRACK: I BELIEVE THAT, SARA, GREAT JOB.

I THINK IT'S A GREAT JOB.

>> VICE CHAIRMAN DAVIED: I AGREE.

THE PLAN IS COMING ALONG NICELY.

>> SARA TOYODA: IT IS AND I'M GLAD YOU LIKE IT, BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS DID THE FRAMEWORK AND PROVIDED THE INPUT AND, YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT IS YOURS.

SO I'M GLAD YOU LIKE IT!

>> CHAIRMAN PATTERSON: VER NICE OF YOU TO SAY THAT! I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S TRUE OR NOT, BUT IT'S NICE OF YOU TO SAY THAT.

>> COMMISSIONER TRACK: I THINK IT'S THE OTHER WAY AROUND.

[LAUGHTER] >> COMMISSIONER TRACK: GOOD JOB.

>> CHAIRMAN PATTERSON: YES, GOOD JOB.

WE KEEP YOU ON YOUR TOES, THOUGH, DON'T WE?

>> SARA TOYODA: OH, MY GOSH! [LAUGHTER] YES, BUT IT'S A LOT OF FUN.

>> CHAIRMAN PATTERSON: I ALWAYS ENJOY THESE MEETINGS.

OKAY, SO STAFF COMMENTS? I AM ASSUMING THERE ARE NONE OF THOSE, BUT MAYBE THERE ARE.

I DON'T KNOW.

>> SARA TOYODA: NO, THERE IS NONE.

>> CHAIRMAN PATTERSON: OKAY.

THE NEXT THING IS ADJOURNMENT.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN AND A SECOND?

>> COMMISSIONER TRACK: I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADJOURN THE MEETING.

>> CHAIRMAN PATTERSON: SECOND.

>> VICE CHAIRMAN DAVIED: SECOND.

>> CHAIRMAN PATTERSON: ALL IN FAVOR.. EVERYBODY HAVE A GOOD EVENING.

>> SARA TOYODA: THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.