I WILL GO INTO THE HISTORY O SLIDES BUT THE LARGER PARCEL
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IS A 20-POINT FOR A GREAT SITE.[4. STATEMENT FROM THE COMMISSION SECRETARY]
THE PROPERTY IS BOUNDED WITHIN THE COUNTRY CLUB.[5. STATEMENT FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY]
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[8.1 Indian Palms 32 – Design Review 21-01-483 (DR 21-01-483)]
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JUST A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT THIS PROJECT ENTAILS IS THAT STREET WILL CONNECT FURTHER NORTH SO THIS WILL BE A PASS THROUGH STREET AND GARLAND WILL NOT SO GARLAND WILL BE EXTENDED ABOUT 20 FEET JUST FOR ACCESS AND UTILITY REASONS.HERE I WILL GO INTO THE HISTORY OF THAT 20.4 ACREAGE SITE.
THE TENTATIVE TRACK 19460 WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL JUNE 20, 1979.
AS YOU CAN SEE, IT WAS APPROVED WITH FIVE LOTS SO THE INTENT WAS TO BUILD IN FIVE PHASES.
AS YOU WERE PRESENTED IN THE SLIDE BEFORE LOTS ONE THROUGH FOUR WERE COMPLETELY BUILT LEAVING LOT FIVE UNIMPROVED AND VACANT.
SO, IN ESSENCE THIS WAS A 116 UNIT CONDOMINIUM PROJECT THAT CONSTRUCTED 84 UNITS REMAINING UNITS THAT WERE LEFT UNBILLED FOR 32 AND THAT IS WHAT IS BEING PRESENTED TODAY THE 32 UNITS FOR CONSIDERATION.
THE CONSIDERATION TODAY IS FOR THE REVIEW WHICH IS THE SITE DESIGN, ARCHITECTURE, LANDSCAPE AND FOR THOSE 32 UNITS THAT INCLUDES TEN TRIPLEX'S AND ONE DUPLEX, INCLUDING COMMON AREAS AND PRIVATE STREET.
SINCE THIS IS WITHIN THE INDIAN PALMS COUNTRY CLUB IT IS REGULATE IT BY A SPECIFIC PLAN AND THAT SPECIFIC PLAN IS CALLED THE RESIDENTIAL PLANNED DEVELOPMENT SIX INDIAN PALMS SPECIFIC PLAN AND THE SPECIFI THAT IS DESIGNATED FOR THIS PARCEL HERE IS THE R2 PD.
THE PROJECT HAS BEEN ANALYZED TO MEET THE REGULAR AND OF THE R2 PD.
THIS IS THE SITE BEING PRESENTED FOR THOSE 32 UNITS.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY ARE IN CLUSTERS OF THREE WHICH IS THE TRIPLEX IS AND THIS IS THE ONE DUPLEX THAT IS CLOSER TO COCHRAN AND WARING.
AS YOU CAN SEE HERE THIS IS, I PRESENTED HERE THE AERIAL SO YOU CAN HAVE SOME BEARING
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ON THE STREETS HERE.THERE ARE ENTRANCES THAT ARE FACING COCHRAN ON ONE OF THE TRIPLEX'S IN ANOTHER ENTRANCE IN THE INTERIOR CREATING A COURT YARD AND THEN THIRD INTEREST IS IN THE SIDES OF IF YOU COULD SEE IT IS ALL DUPLICATED IN EACH ONE OF THESE COLORS REPRESENTS THE COLOR SCHEME THING WILL SEE IN THE FURTHER SLIDE BUT THERE IS A VARIATION OF COLORS THROUGHOUT THIS COMMUNITY.
THERE ARE COVERED AND UNCOVERED PATIOS AND YOU WILL SEE HERE THE COVERED AREAS AND THEN THE UNCOVERED THAT ARE BOUNDED BY PROPER WALLS AS WELL AS TWO WHEELER FENCING LOOKING INTO THE COMMON AREAS.
THE COMMON AREA INCLUDES SIDEWALKS FOR PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS THROUGHOUT THE COMMON AREA, GRASS AREAS, POOLS, SPA, AS WELL AS AID RETENTION BASIN THAT IS PART OF THIS PROJECT FOR THE ON-SITE RETENTION OF THAT IS REQUIRED BY WP OP.
THESE ARE THE ELEVATIONS OF THE TRIPLEX IS IN THE DUPLEXES.
AS YOU CAN SEE THE PROJECT IS BEING PROPOSED AS A CONTEMPORARY MODERN STYLE.
THERE IS GEOMETRIC ROOFING WITH JUST BREAKING UP THE PLAINS OF THE FAÇADE AS WELL AS TYING IN WITH THE CONCRETE ROOF TILES TO MATCH THE REMAINING COMMUNITIES SURROUNDING IT SO THERE IS SOME TIE-INS WITH THE EXISTING BUT THIS IS MUCH MORE OF A MODERN LOOK, CONSIDERING THAT THE PREVIOUS PROJECT WAS BUILT IN 1985.
THERE IS ONLY ONE OF THESE IN THE COMMUNITY BUT IT CONTINUES WITH THE GEOMETRIC LOOK POPOUT AGAIN OF THE PLANES AND ALSO WRAPPING AROUND THE ARTICULATION TO THE SIDES IN THE REARS OF THE BUILDING STRUCTURES.
HERE ARE THE VERY AND SCHEMES THAT YOU SAW AND THE STREETSCAPE AS WELL.
THE COLORS ARE JUST SORT OF DESERT BUT ALSO INCLUDING SOME TOPS OF THE BLUES AND GRAYS AND THE LIGHT COLORS ON THE GARAGES TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BUILDING ITSELF AND THE ARCHITECTURE IS NOT LOST IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, JUST LOOKING AT THE GARAGES WHEN YOU ARE DRIVING BY.
THE UNITS ARE ALL THREE TO FOUR BEDROOMS AND RAIN FROM 1,636 SQUARE FEET TO THE LARGEST PLAN B1841 SQUARE FEET.
THEY EACH HAVE A TWO CAR GARAGE AND THESE ARE OWNERSHIP UNITS SO THE OWNERSHIP UNITS REQUIRE GARAGES, TWO-CAR GARAGES, FOR EACH UNIT.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE IS SEVERAL BEDROOMS AS WELL AS BATHROOMS AND A SPACING FOR LIVING AREAS, GREAT ROOMS, AS WELL AS THE COVERED AND UNCOVERED AREAS.
THIS IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN THEY ARE PRESENTING.
IT IS ALL LOW WATER USAGE FOR THE FRONT YARDS, AS WELL AS FOR THE COMMON AREAS AND FOR THE RETENTION BASIN.
THE RETENTION BASIN WILL BE REQUIRED TO HAVE LOW WATER USAGE AND IT WILL NOT HAVE THE RECREATIONAL USE THAT IS BEING LISTED HERE SO THIS IS OR WILL BE A TRUE RETENTION BASIN.
THE FRONT YARDS WILL HAVE A COMBINATION OF TREES AND SHRUBS AND UNITS THAT HAVE AN INTERIOR CORRIDOR WILL HAVE LANDSCAPING THAT WILL COME IN TO THOSE AREAS BUT THIS IS THE LOW WATER USAGE DESERT SCAPE, AS WELL AS THE SHRUBS AND TREES THAT ARE DESERT FRIENDLY.
WITH THAT STAFF RECOMMENDS AN ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION 1989, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION CONDITIONALLY APPROVING DESIGN REVIEW 21-01-483
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ALLOWING THE CONSTRUCTION OF THESE 32 ATTACHED HOMES INCLUDING TEN TRIPLEX'S AND ONE DUPLEX, COMMON AREAS, PRIVATE STREETS INCLUSIVE OF THE SITE DESIGN, BUILDING ARCHITECTURE, AND LANDSCAPING.THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU BY THE PLANNING SECRETARY, AS WELL AS POSTED ON OUR CITY WEBSITE AND I AM HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL AS THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FOR ANY FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS THAT ARE NEEDED FROM THOSE COMMENTS.
COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF?
>> I JUST HAVE ONE IF THAT IS OKAY.
ROSIE, I KNOW A LOT OF PROJECTS NOWADAYS ARE PUTTING THE RETENTION BASINS UNDERGROUND, IS THIS WILL STILL BE ONE ABOVE GROUND SO JUST CURIOUS AS TO WHY THAT IS BEING DONE THAT WAY OR NORMAL FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT?
>> I AM NOT AN EXPERT IN RETENTION BASINS AND WE DEFINITELY HAVE ENGINEERING HERE.
I KNOW THAT THIS SITE DESIGN WAS VETTED THROUGH OUR ENGINEERING AND THAT WAS THE RETENTION BASIN THAT WAS PROPOSED WAS ACCEPTED.
I DO NOT KNOW IF THEY EXPLORED ANY OTHER AVENUES TO, YOU KNOW, CREATING UNDER GROUNDING OR ANY, YOU KNOW, ANY OF THAT WAS EVEN IN DISCUSSION SO IF WE COULD HAVE ENGINEERING SPEAK ON THAT I THINK THEY WOULD BE MUCH MORE OF AN EXPERT TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
ROLLED ON LOPEZ, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
TYPICALLY A DEVELOPER HAS A CHOICE TO EITHER DO A BACKGROUND RETENTION WHICH IS JUST COSTLY AND USUALLY THEY GO UNDERGROUND WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH LAND TO DO AN ABOVEGROUND RETENTION BASIN BUT ON THIS CASE THEY HAVE THE LAND BUT ALSO TO GO BACK TO SOMETHING THAT ROSIE SAID ALL RETENTION BASINS BOTTOM OF THE RETENTION BASINS HAVE TO HAVE GRASS TO COMPLY WITH.
>> I DO HAVE A QUICK QUESTION IN REGARDS TO THE OUTDOOR AREA FOR THE DUPLEXES AND FOR THE TRIPLEXES.
IS THERE A WAY FOR US TO PUT UP THE ILLUSTRATION WITH THE LAYOUT OF THE DEVELOPMENT?
>> THIS ONE IS OKAY OR DO YOU WANT THE OTHER SLIDE FOR NOW?
QUESTION IS FOR THE OUTDOOR THERE GOING TO BE OPEN OR IS IT GOING TO BE IN THE COURTYARD AREA WILL BE IT OPEN FOR THEM TO SEE THE POOL AREA OR TO HAVE THAT DIRECTLY OR WILL THERE BE WALLS PUT UP.
IF YOU SEE HERE I WILL JUST TAKE ONE UNIT HERE IN THIS WALL HERE IN THIS WALL HERE WHICH DIVIDES THE UNIT WILL BE A BLACK WALL AND THEN THE REAR HERE WILL BE TUBULAR FENCING AND THE TUBULAR FENCING WILL BE SO THAT THERE COULD BE SEE-THROUGH TO OVERLOOK THE COMMON AREA SO ONLY THESE SIDE WALLS WILL BE THE BLOCK WALLS.
>> AND WILL THEY HAVE ACCESS FROM THEIR AREA TO DIRECTLY ON THE BACKYARD AREA TO THAT AREA WHERE THEY HAVE THE WALKAROUND FROM THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO HAVE THE COMMON AREA.
SO IF YOU SEE HERE THERE WILL BE THE OTHER DISC RIGHT DESCRIBED IT SO THERE ARE GATES HERE FOR EACH ONE OF THESE UNITS TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE COMMON AREA.
>> OKAY, SO AS FAR AS THE COURTYARD FOR THE HOMES, DO WE KNOW HOW BIG THE COURTYARD WILL BE FOR THEM IN THE BACK? I KNOW IT WILL VARY FROM THE TRIPLEXES AND THE DUPLEXES BUT LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR THE TRIPLEX ON NUMBER TWO THE MIDDLE TRIPLEX LOOKS LIKE IT HAS A COURTYARD IN BETWEEN AND THEN A SMALLER ONE IN THE BACK SO DO WE KNOW WHAT THE SIZE OF THE COURTYARDS WILL BE IN THE BACK FOR THE UNITS?
I AM TRYING TO READ HERE THIS PLAN TO SEE WHAT THAT DIMENSION IS.
GIVE ME ONE SECOND, I HAD IT HERE.
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SO, AS YOU CAN SEE THE COVERED PATIOS EACH HAVE THEIR OWN DIMENSION DEPENDING ON THE PLAN BUT THE EXTERIORS ARE ALL PRETTY STANDARD AND I HAVE HERE THAT IT IS, LET'S SEE, PROBABLY WILL HAVE TO HAVE THE DEVELOPER HELP ME THERE ON THOSE DIMENSIONS.I WAS JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE I KNOW WHEN WE WERE OUT LOOKING FOR A HOME ONE OF THE BIG, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE MAJOR THINGS THEY LOOK FOR IS LIKE THE OUTDOOR SPACE AND HOW MUCH SPACE THEY HAVE FOR THEIR OUTDOOR LIVING SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS TO SEE LIKE ON THE CENTER TRIPLEX HOW BIG THAT AREA WOULD BE SINCE THAT WILL BE THE MAIN AREA THAT IS OVERLOOKING THE COMMON AREA SO I'M JUST CURIOUS TO SEE HOW THAT SPACE WILL BE FOR THEM.
>> AND THEN THAT CENTER PART DOES HAVE ACCESS TO THE BACK AREA, THE COMMON AREA?
>> YOU MEAN THESE LITTLE SPACES HERE?
>> THE SPACE WELL I GUESS IT IS THE ENTRY SPACE FOR THE NUMBER, THAT CENTER TRIPLEX TO HAVE ACCESS TO THEIR HOME THAT LITTLE AREA TO ME IT LOOKED LIKE A COURTYARD BUT I GUESS IT IS FOR THEM TO ENTER THEIR UNIT, CORRECT?
THESE IN THE BACK WILL HAVE THAT ACCESS ONTO THE COURTYARD THERE AND I HAVE THAT DIMENSION AND I'M SORRY, I'M TRYING TO QUICKLY GO THROUGH THIS BUT IF I COULD JUST HAVE THE APPLICANT RESPOND TO THAT I AM SURE THEY HAVE THAT BY MEMORY SO IF WE COULD JUST TABLE THAT ONE IF YOU DON'T MIND, COMMISSIONER, WE CAN HAVE OKAY WITH YOU.
>> ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, I WILL GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
IF YOU WISH TO ADD ANYTHING TO THE REPORT.
>> CAN YOU HEAR US? THIS IS JAMES BRENNAN, PRESIDENT OF BRUNSON HOMES.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING US THIS EVENING.
IN REGARDS TO THE OPEN SPACE AREAS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP FOR THE TRIPLEX ON THE END UNITS, THE COVERED PATIO, EXCUSE ME, THOSE ARE 20 FEET WIDE BY 10 FEET DEEP FOR EACH OF THE AND UNITS AND THE CENTER UNIT STARTING VIDEO.
THE CENTER UNIT THE COVERED PATIO AREA IS 16.5 FEET WIDE BY 6 FEET DEEP AND WE ADDED THE BACKYARDS WHICH ARE THE WIDTH OF THE UNIT WHICH IS 35 FEET WIDE BY 10 FEET DEEP.
SO THEY ALL HAVE COVERED PATIOS AND THEY ALL HAVE BACKYARDS.
>> AND THEY HAVE A FEW INTO THE COMMON AREA AND ACCESS.
>> SO, FOR THE CENTER UNIT ON THE ONE THAT HAS THE 16 AND A HALF BY 6 FEET THAT IS THE COVERED PATIO THEY HAVE ACCESS THROUGH FOR THE COMMON AREAS?
>> YEAH, FOR THAT CENTER UNIT THEIR GREAT ROOM OPENS INTO THAT COVERED PATIO WHICH OPENS INTO THE BACKYARD.
AND THEN THEY ALSO HAVE THE COURTYARD AREA THAT IS PRIVATE TO THEM AND THAT IS ABOUT 15 FEET BY 15 OR 16 FEET, THE INTERIOR COURTYARDS.
>> AND THE INTERIOR COURTYARD WILL THE NEIGHBOR NEXT DOOR HAVE A WINDOW WHERE THEY CAN TO SEE OR WILL IT BE PRIVATE JUST TO THAT HOMEOWNER?
THEY HAVE WINDOWS AND THEY HAVE A SLIDING DOOR COMING FROM THEIR KITCHEN AREA TO THAT COURTYARD AND THEY HAVE A WINDOWS LOOKING FROM ONE OF THE BEDROOMS INTO THAT COURTYARD AS WELL BUT NO OTHER UNIT HAS VISIBILITY INTO THAT PRIVATE AREA.
>> IT PRODUCES AN EXCELLENT FOCAL POINT AS YOU COME UP THE WALKWAY INTO THAT INTERIOR COURTYARD FOR NATIVE, DESERT PLANTS LIKE WILD A'S OR CACTI OR
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FLOWERING PLANTS AND THAT COURTYARD AND YOU CAN ALSO PLACE PATIO CHAIRS OUT THERE AND IT IS A PLACE TO HAVE MORNING TEA OR COFFEE AND IT IS BEAUTIFUL AND REMINISCENT OF SAN FRANCISCO, IF YOU WILL AREA.[LAUGHTER] >> AND AN EARLIER ERA.
MY QUESTION WAS JUST WITH THAT BACK AREA THAT WAS GOING TO BE ENOUGH ROOM FOR THEM TO, YOU KNOW, SET UP LIKE A LITTLE SEATING AREA WITH THE BARBECUE FOR THEM TO ENJOY THE COMMON AREA BUT THEY HAVE THE INTERIOR COURTYARD TO MAKE UP FOR THE SMALLER SPACE IN THE BOX.
THESE ARE COVERED PATIOS SO ONE OF THE OPTIONS IS TO HAVE THE FAN IN THE PATIO AND OF COURSE LIGHTS BUT THEY LOOKED DIRECTLY OUT INTO THAT COMMON AREA WHICH WE THINK IS A TREMENDOUS BENEFIT.
>> A GREENBELT AREA AND HAVE ACCESS OUT TO THE POOL AND THE WALKING AREA YOU SEE ON THE SITE PLAN.
WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT IT AND WE THINK IT IS A GOOD USE OF THE LAND PLAN.
>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER VALDES PEERED ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR FROM THE COMMISSIONERS TO THE APPLICANTS?
>> IF I MAY, THE SECOND GENTLEMAN WITH MR. JAMES BRENNAN COULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
>> MY NAME IS BOB, LAST NAME IS REYNOLDS, REY AND O LDS SENIOR PROJECT MANAGER FOR BRENNAN HOMES.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ, DO WE WANT TO ADDRESS THE LOCAL COMMUNITY'S CONCERNS OVER THAT FENCING IN THE STREET AT THIS TIME OR DO WE WANT TO SAY THAT FOR DELIBERATION OR ASKING THE APPLICANTS REGARDING THAT?
>> GENTLEMEN, WE BEEN GETTING MANY, MANY COMMENTS REGARDING THE FENCING ON COCHRAN I BELIEVE THAT IS GOING OUT INTO THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET IN FRONT OF FIVE OR SIX UNITS AND IT SEEMS LIKE ALL THE HOMEOWNERS IN THAT AREA ARE EXCITED TO SEE THIS DEVELOPMENT TAKE PLACE HOWEVER, THE FENCING IS TAKING AWAY HALF OF THEIR STREET RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEIR HOME AND THEY ARE HAVING TROUBLE GETTING IN AND OUT AND TRASH PICK UPS ARE CUMBERSOME AND IF THERE IS TO A HAS BEEN DIFFICULT AND IS THERE ANY FOR THE HOMEOWNERS?
>> YES, IT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR FENCE WHICH WAS MISPLACED BY THE FENCING COMPANY AND IS BEING RELOCATED ON FRIDAY TO THE SITE OF THE STREET AS MANY OF YOU MIGHT KNOW THERE IS PROBABLY AN H-10-FOOT STRIP OF DIRT ON THAT STREET ON COCHRAN SO THE FENCE WILL BE RELOCATED TO WHERE THE DIRT MEETS THE PAVEMENT SO IT WILL BE MOVING PROBABLY 15 FEET.
>> I'M SURE THEY WILL BE HAPPY TO HEAR THAT.
>> YEAH, THAT WAS NOT MEANT TO BE PUT THAT WAY.
>> BY THE WAY, FOR THE RECORD I HAVE REACHED OUT TO AT LEAST THREE OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS PRIOR TO THIS MEETING VIA E-MAIL INDICATING OUR APOLOGIES.
WE UNDERSTAND THEIR CONCERNS PEERED WE ASKED FOR THEIR CONTINUED SUPPORT.
WE HAVE PROBABLY TALKED TO THOSE VERY SAME INDIVIDUALS WHEN WE DID OUR DOOR TO DOOR CANVASSING AND CAMPAIGN SO I FELT IT WAS NECESSARY TO REACH OUT AT THIS TIME, ESPECIALLY SEEN THOSE COMMENTS AND OFFER OUR APOLOGIES AND LET THEM KNOW THAT BY THIS FRIDAY THAT WILL BE CORRECTED.
PLEASE LET THEIR NEIGHBORS KNOW THAT AS WELL.
THE HOA HAS BEEN APPRISED OF THAT, HOA 14 AND I SPOKE TO SHELLEY THIS MORNING REGARDING THIS AND THEY HAVE BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE AND THEY GET IT BUT LOOK, WE BEEN SHUT DOWN FOR 16 MONTHS AND EVERYONE IS TRYING TO PUT CRUISE TOGETHER AND THERE IS LOTS OF MISTAKES BEING MADE ALL ACROSS THE BOARD.
>> BUT IT WILL BE FIXED FRIDAY.
>> END OF STORY, IT WILL BE FIXED.
>> THANK YOU FOR REACHING BACK THEM KNOW AND I AM SURE THEY GAVE THEM PEACE OF MIND AND, YOU KNOW, AS I AM SURE YOU KNOW THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY SUPPORT WILL MEAN A LOT TO THE PROJECT.
COMMISSIONER RODRIGUES, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION?
>> I DID HAVE A QUESTION COULD IT'S A COMMENT BUT I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT LANDSCAPE PLANNING.
IT IS VERY PROMISING TO SEE SO MUCH GREENERY BEING ADDED TO THE PLAN.
I DID HAVE A QUESTION AND TO SAY THAT IT SEEMS TO BE A GOOD OPTION IN A LOW WATER
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CONSUMPTION AND SPEAKING ABOUT WATER CONSUMPTION IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE MYRTLE ALTHOUGH IT DOES OF GIVE GOOD ACCENTS BUT THERE IS A LOWER WATER CONSUMPTION OPTION AND I'M WONDERING IF YOU GUYS HAVE CONSIDERED THIS.I BELIEVE IT IS CALLED THE DESERT WILLOW.
I WAS TALKING TO A LANDSCAPE DESIGNER, FRIEND OF MINE, AND THEY WERE SAYING THIS IS A MUCH MORE LONG-TERM SUSTAINABLE OPTION AND SO I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF THAT WAS SOMETHING YOU WOULD BE, YOU KNOW,.
I MADE A NOTE OF IT HERE AND I'M SPEAK TO OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT IN THE MORNING AND THAT IS AN EASY REPLACEMENT AND I LOVE THE DESERT WILLOW.
IT IS SHOWN ALL THROUGHOUT LA QUINTA SO IT'S A BEAUTIFUL TREE AND HAS A GREAT CANOPY SO WE AGREE.
IT IS NOTED AND WE WILL MAKE THAT CHANGE.
>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ-CEJA.
>> NO, I THINK IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PROJECT IN A GREAT USE OF SPACE.
I THINK THESE TYPES OF UNITS IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE MISSING IN INDIO SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT BEING BUILT AND HOPEFULLY A GREAT ADDITION TO INDIAN PALMS.
>> PART OF MY INTERRUPTION COMMISSIONERS BUT I JUST WANTED TO REMIND THAT WE ARE STILL.
>> WE ARE NOT IN DELIBERATIONS.
>> IF WE COULD STICK TO QUESTIONS.
>> AT SOME POINT WE WILL OPEN IT UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT AND WAS THE HEARING IS CLOSED.
OKAY, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER FRANZ SO I GUESS IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THE ITEM?
THE CORRESPONDENCE WAS PROVIDED TO THE COMMISSION AND IT WAS MADE AVAILABLE ONLINE AND IT WAS MADE PART OF THE RECORD FOR THE PROJECT.
AND IF THE APPLICANT HAS ANY CLOSING REMARKS BEFORE WE CLOSE THE HEARING.
>> WE ARE JUST REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE PROJECT.
WE HAVE SPENT DAYS OUT THERE MEETING WITH THE COMMUNITY AND MEDIA NEIGHBORS AND THEY ALL LOVE THE IDEA OF THE LOT FINALLY BEING BUILT, NOT ONLY TO STOP DUST BUT, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE SOMETHING NEW IN THERE AND WE HAVE A HUGE INTEREST LIST ALREADY, MOSTLY OF PEOPLE THAT ALREADY LIVE THERE AND I THINK WE ARE RIGHT ABOUT 28-29 PEOPLE IT BUILT.
>> IF I MAY, I'M SO SORRY, THERE WAS ONE MORE QUESTION THAT I JUST REALIZED I SAW IN MY NOTES FOR THE APPLICANT.
WHAT IS THE PRICE RANGE FOR THESE TYPES OF HOMES SO I KNOW THAT WE HAVE DIFFERENT PLANS BUT IS THERE A ROUGH NUMBER AND I KNOW A LOT OF THIS IS BASED ON MARKET BUT RIGHT NOW BASED ON THE OTHER PROJECTS WHAT CAN THAT FOLKS WHO WANT TO MOVE IN THEIR EXPECT?
>> WE HAVEN'T SUCH PRICES YET WITH THE VOLATILITY OF NUMBER AND CONCRETE AND ALL OF THAT BUT WE ARE HOPING WE ARE IN THE HIGH THREE HUNDREDS AND LOW FOR HUNDREDS AND THAT IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN TELLING EVERYBODY ON THE INTEREST LIST AND WE'VE HAD NO PUSHBACK ON THAT SO THEY ALL SEEM TO BE EXCITED ABOUT IT.
>> FINANCING ALONG WITH CONVENTIONAL, OF COURSE AND I THINK THIS WILL BE AN ATTRACTIVE PROJECT FOR NOT ONLY FIRST-TIME BUYERS BUT MOVE DOWN BUYERS AS WELL.
THE SIZE, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THESE HOMES IS TREMENDOUS FROM THE FRONT DOOR ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE HOUSE YOU CAN SEE ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO THE COMMON AREA AND WE DID THAT DELIBERATELY.
YOU KNOW, TO BRING LIGHT INTO THOSE UNITS.
>> I ACTUALLY HAVE ONE QUESTION.
WITH THIS BE ITS OWN HOA OR WILL YOU BE JOINING ONE OF THE 17 THAT IS THEY ARE? WE WILL BE FORMING OUR OWN HOA AWAY.
I THINK WILL BE THE 14TH AND THERE.
>> YEAH, IT IS LISTED ON THAT COLORED CHART, ROSIE.
>> YEAH, THIS IS ALL THE -- >> IT IS ALREADY LISTED AS AN HOA AND WE WILL JUST COMPLETE THE FORMATION AT THE STATE LEVEL.
AT THIS TIME I WILL GO AHEAD IF THERE IS NO FURTHER QUESTIONS I WILL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
>> I PRETTY MUCH ALREADY DID SO -- [LAUGHTER] SORRY ABOUT THAT.
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JUST A REPEAT I THINK THIS IS GREAT PROJECT AND GOOD ADDITION TO THE COMMUNITY AND I THINK THAT THE DEVELOPER REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT THE QUALITY OF LIFE WHEN THEY DESIGNED THESE AND THOUGHT ABOUT LONG-TERM RESIDENT SO I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS BEING ADDED TO INDIO AND INDIAN PALMS SO THANK YOU.>> COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ-CEJA.
>> [INAUDIBLE] I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROJECT AND LIKE I SAID WHEN I WAS ASKING THE APPLICANT ABOUT THE LANDSCAPE I REALLY APPRECIATED ROBUST LANDSCAPE PLAN AND THIS HELPS FOUR, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO RESOLVE SOME OF THE URBAN HEAT THAT IT CREATES AND THIS IS A GOOD WAY OF MITIGATING THAT SO I APPRECIATE THAT BEING THOUGHT OF AND FOR TAKING MY SUGGESTION ON THIS, YOU KNOW, GOOD POTENTIAL REPLACEMENT OF THE PLANT THAT IS NOT GOING TO CONSUME AS MUCH WATER.
WATER IS A BIG PRIORITY FOR US AND YEAH, GREAT PROJECT.
>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ-CEJA.
>> WELL, I THINK THAT IT IS A GREAT ADDITION TO THE COMMUNITY AND I DO LOVE THE MODERN DESIGN AND I AM SURE THEY WILL NOT HAVE ANY ISSUES SELLING OUT.
[LAUGHTER] THEY ARE GREAT DUPLEXES AND TRIPLEX IS SO THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
>> YOU KNOW, I REALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF TRIPLEXES AN DUPLEXES, YOU KNOW, MAXIMIZING THE SPACE AND GETTING MORE UNITS AND ONE POSSIBLE AREA AND I KNOW IN UNINCORPORATED AREAS LIKE IN THE DUNES THERE ARE DUPLEXES AND TRIPLEXES SO I'M GLAD TO SEE SOME OF THAT GOING TO INDIO AND I LOVE THE DESIGN AND THE MODERN LOOK AND FEEL AND IT IS NOT SOMETHING WE SEE ON THE EASTERN END OF THE VALLEY SO IT IS DEFINITELY A DIFFERENT ARCHITECTURE THAN WE ARE USED TO SEEING IN INDIO AND I LIKE IT.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY IT IS HARD GOING LAST BECAUSE I ECHO WHAT EACH OF THE COMMISSIONERS SAID AND I AM A HUGE FAN OF MODERN HOMES AND LOVE THE DESIGN.
WOULD BE TO ADOPT THE REVOLUTION 1989.
>> I WILL GO AHEAD AND GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION.
I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO BE ADOPT RESOLUTION 1989, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CONDITIONALLY APPROVING THE DESIGN REVIEW 21-01-483 ALLOWING THE CONSTRUCTION OF 32 ATTACHED HOMES INCLUDING TEN TRIPLEXES AND ONE DUPLEX, COMMON AREAS, PRIVATE STREETS INCLUSION OF SITE DESIGN, BUILDING ARCHITECTURE, AND LANDSCAPING WITHIN LOT FIVE OF THE RECORDED TRACT MAP NUMBER 14690 IN THE INDIAN PALMS COUNTRY CLUB COMMUNITY, GENERALLY LOCATED BETWEEN COCHRAN DRIVE AND THE TERMINUS OF GARLAND ROAD AND ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF WEARING WAY, SUBJECT TO THE FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL THERE IN AND DETERMINING THAT THE PROJECT IS EXEMPT FROM CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT CEQ A.
>> MISSION OR, ROLL CALL PLEASE.
>> COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ-CEJA.
>> THANK YOU AND CONGRATULATIONS TO MR. BRENNAN AND MR. REYNOLDS.
NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA AND LET ME JUST PULL IT UP HERE ONE SECOND.
[8.2 Fiesta Kia – Revisions to Conditions of Approval for the Approved Conditional Use Permit 20-11-1065 and Approved Design Review 20-11-481]
A.2 FIESTA KEY REVISION TO CONDITION OF APPROVAL FOR THE APPROVED CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 20 -- 11 -- 1065 IMPROVED DESIGN REVIEW 20 -- 11 -- 481.THIS IS TO RECONSIDER THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FOR CONDITION USE PERMIT THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON A REGULAR MEETING ON MAY 23 AND NIKKI GOMEZ.
SO, GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
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TONIGHT BEFORE YOU IS THE FIESTA KIA PROJECT FOR RECONSIDERATION OF CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.AS YOU MAY KNOW THIS ITEM APPEAR BEFORE YOU ON MAY 26, 2021 AND APPROVED ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT 20-11-553 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 20 -- 11 -- 1065 AND DESIGN REVIEW 20 -- 11 -- 481 AND IT WAS APPROVED BY A FOUR-ZERO VOTE AT THE TIME.
JUST KIND OF TO REVISIT IT TO KIND OF WALK THROUGH IT ONE MORE TIME THE PROJECT SITE IS LOCATED AT NORTHWEST CORNER OF VARNER ROAD AND 50S WAY ON A 3.5-ACRE LOT.
JUST ALSO AN OVERVIEW SO THERE IS A NEW CAR DEALERSHIP TWO-STORY TOTALING 25,000 SQUARE FEET COMBINATION SHOWROOM WITH A SERVICE FOR AUTO REPAIRS AND RESTROOMS AND OFFICES AND WE DID ASSOCIATED PARKING AND LANDSCAPING.
SO, BEFORE YOU TONIGHT I WOULD LIKE TO CONCENTRATE SPECIFICALLY ON THESE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.
FOR RESOLUTION 1995 WHICH IS CONDITIONAL APPROVING THE CONDITION USE PERMIT AND THAT IS 810 WHICH STATES THAT THE APPLICANT SHALL LIMIT VEHICLE DELIVERIES BY SEMI TRUCKS OR OTHER LARGE TRUCKS FROM 7:00 A.M.
AND PLANNING COMMISSIONERS YOU HAVE RECEIVED THE LETTER FROM THE OWNER THAT WAS POSTED AND SENT OVER TO YOU STATING SOME SUGGESTIONS ON THAT PARTICULAR CONDITION AND THIS STATES THAT IN ORDER TO -- THE TIMES OF THE DELIVERIES IS GOING TO CONTINUE OR THE TIMES OF DELIVERIES O OF THIS LIMITED TIME IN THE DELIVERIES WILL CONTINUE HOWEVER, AS THE LETTER STATED THAT ALL DELIVERIES WILL AVOID THE REAR PORTION OF THE SITE AND THE OPERATIONS OF THE TRANSPORT WILL BE UNLOADED WHEN ADDING BEHIND THE TOYOTA DEALERSHIP DELIVERIES OCCUR AND SO THAT WILL BE UP FOR DISCUSSION IN THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT TO FURTHER DISCUSS THIS CONDITION.
THE SECOND CONDITION TO RECONSIDER IS UNDER RESOLUTION 1996 WHICH IS UNDER DESIGN REVIEW AND THAT WOULD BE STEPH'S REQUEST TO REMOVE CONDITION D7 WHICH STATES THAT THE APPLICANT SHALL SUBMIT A LOT OF MERGER / LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT EVOCATION FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL AND RECORD THE APPROVED ALLEGATION PRIOR TO THE INSURANCE ISSUANCE OF A GRADING PERMIT AND TO ADD CONDITION UNDER THE 23 THAT STATES THAT THE APPLICANT / DEVELOPER SHALL CONSTRUCT A 6-FOOT WIDE CONCRETE SIDEWALK PER CITY OF INDIO STANDARD PLAN NUMBER 132 ALONG VARNER ROAD PROPERTY FRONTAGE FROM FIFTIES WAY TO NEWCASTLE DRIVE AND JUST AS A VISUAL ON THIS NEXT SLIDE THAT IS WHAT WILL BE ADDED ONTO THE NEW CONDITION UNDER THE DESIGN REVIEW.
AND SO, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
THE APPLICANT AND OWNER IS WITH US TONIGHT AND STAFF IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS.
>> NIKKI, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
THAT ADDITION OF THE SIDEWALK, WAS THAT SUGGESTED BY STAFF, I DON'T REMEMBER US DISCUSSING THAT BUT I DO THINK THAT IS A GREAT IDEA.
WAS THAT JUST SUGGESTED BY STAFF TO THE APPLICANT? > BELIEVE COMMISSIONER.
>> I DID NOT RECALL THAT BUT THANK YOU.
>> JUST REALLY QUICK BEFORE WE START.
I JUST WANT TO ASK AGAIN IF ANY OF OUR COMMISSIONERS HAVE HAD ANY CONTACT WITH THE APPLICANT IN REGARDS TO THIS PROJECT?
>> NO SPIRIT IF YOU HAVE, PLEASE STATE SO.
IF NOT WE WILL CONTINUE WITH COMMISSIONER COMMENTS TO STAFF.
GO AHEAD, I'M SORRY, VICE CHAIR.
>> THAT WAS THE END OF MY COMMENT, QUESTION.
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THANK YOU.>> ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? FOR NIKKI? OKAY.
WITH THAT WE WILL GO AHEAD AND IF IS IT MR. FEEL? IF HE IS PRESENT AND IF HE WOULD LIKE TO.
>> MY APOLOGIES YOU HAVE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FIRST.
I'M GOING TO MY NOTES HERE AND I THOUGHT I WILL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM AND YOU ARE UP.
>> GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY, MY NAME IS PAUL THIEL FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE NOT MET AND I'M PRESIDENT OF FIESTA KIA AS WELL AS FIESTA FORD JUST DOWN THE STREETS.
FIRST LET ME APOLOGIZE FOR MISSING THE LAST MEETING OR WE COULD HAVE DISCUSSED THIS AT THAT TIME AND WE DID NOT GET THAT IS ON ME.
BUT BRIEFLY I JUST WANT TO REINFORCE WHAT MY LETTER SAID IS THAT IT WOULD BE VERY DETRIMENTAL TO US IF WE ARE TO INSTRUCT KIA THAT WE CAN ONLY DROP CARS BETWEEN 7:00 A.M.
AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS TWO OR THREE BUT ONE IS NONE OF THE OTHER DEALERS HAVE THIS OBSTACLE THAT THEY HAVE TO OVERCOME.
THE CARDS CARS ARE DROPPED WHEN THEY SHOW UP AT ALL TIMES OF THE DAY AND JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE LOGISTICAL NIGHTMARE THEY BUILT TRANSPORTS WITH EIGHT CARS AND THEY TRY TO DO IT IN A GEOGRAPHICAL AREA THAT IS VERY CLOSE SO THEY CAN DROP OFF ALL EIGHT CARS AND THEY ARE NOT ALL AND YOU HAVE PROBABLY SEEN THEM ON THE INTERSTATE AND THEY ARE ALL NOT THE SAME MAKE AND MODEL.
TRANSPORT COMPANY FILLS EIGHT MODELS AND SOMETIMES THEY ARE ALL YOURS BUT IF YOU HAVE EIGHT CARS COMING FROM THE RAILWAY BUT IF WE ARE LIMITED TO THE HOURS AND THEY HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT OUR CARS AND SET THEM AT THE RAILHEAD AND NOT SHIP THEM TO US UNTIL THEY HAVE A FULL LOAD WHICH IS EIGHT CARS SO WE WILL BE AT THE VERY END OF THE TRANSPORT LINE AND IT WILL DELAY US IN CARS WHICH IS A COMPETITIVE DISADVANTAGE.
BUT IN THAT REGARD, WE WANT TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR TO EVERYBODY AND WE ARE MINDFUL OF THE COMMISSIONS CONCERNS ABOUT THE IMPACT ON THE TRUCKS COMING ON TO OUR LOT AT NIGHT AND DROPPING OFF CARS AND SO WE HAVE SERVED UP A TWOFOLD SOLUTION.
ONE IS, YOU KNOW, AFTER THE HOURS OF 7:00 P.M.
AND BEFORE THE HOURS OF 7:00 A.M.
WE WILL UNLOAD THE CARS ON FIFTIES OR ON VARNER OR ON 40TH AVENUE AS DO ALL THE OTHER CAR DEALERS.
OBVIOUSLY DURING THAT TIMEFRAME WE WILL TRY TO BRING THEM INTO THE DEALERSHIP AND DROP THEM OFF.
IT IS REALLY DIFFICULT TO GO TO KIA AND SAY WE DON'T WANT YOUR CARS EXCEPT FOR THESE HOURS SO WE HOPE THIS SOLUTION WILL WORK FOR EVERYBODY BECAUSE WE WANT TO WORK WITH THE COMMISSION AND WITH THE PEOPLE AND THEY WILL BE A BIG CUSTOMER BASE FOR US SO WE THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE AMENABLE SOLUTION AND AS FAR AS THE CONDITION, AS FAR AS THE SIDEWALK AND I DON'T KNOW IF I COULD SPEAK TO THAT RIGHT NOW OR NOT BUT WE HAVE ALREADY ACCEPTED THAT AND WE WILL DO THE 6-FOOT SIDEWALK SO THAT CONDITION WILL BE MET.
ALL WE ARE ASKING FOR IS THAT THE OTHER ONE THAT YOU DON'T RESTRICT US TO THOSE HOURS AND LET US, LET US GET THE CARS WHEN WE GET THEM AND WE WILL UNLOAD THEM LIKE THE OTHER DEALERS DO.
ANY COMMENTS TO THE COMMISSIONERS TO THE APPLICANT? SEEN THAT THERE ARE NONE, TO BE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THE ITEM?
>> WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY REQUEST FOR ORAL TESTIMONY.
ALL CORRESPONDENCE MUST RESPOND TO THE COMMISSION AND POSTED ON THE WEBSITE AND SUBMITTED AS PART OF THE RECORD.
>> MR. THIEL, I DO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR EXTENDING THE WALKWAY THERE FROM IN FRONT OF THE PROPERTY.
LIKE I MENTIONED, IT IS A HIVE VOLUME OF CARS THAT GO THROUGH THERE AND IT IS NOT SAFE FOR THE PEDESTRIANS TO WALK THROUGH THERE SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR TAKING
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THAT INTO CONSIDERATION BECAUSE IT IS FOR THE SAFETY OF EVERYONE, YOU KNOW, AND THANK YOU.>> ANY, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF NOT, MR. THIEL, ANY OTHER CLOSING COMMENTS.
WE ARE JUST LOOKING FORWARD TO SELLING KEY IS IN THE CITY OF INDIO AND THE SOONER WE CAN GET STARTED THE BETTER.
WE ARE ALREADY TO BREAK GROUND IN THE NEXT DAYS, FEW WEEKS SO THAT IS WHAT WE ARE PUSHING FOR AND READY TO GO AND EVERYBODY HAS BEEN HELPFUL.
YOU KNOW, THE ENTIRE CITY STAFF THAT HIS WORK WITH MY ARCHITECT AND MY GENERAL CONTRACTOR THROUGH THESE TOUGH TIMES HAS BEEN AMAZING HOW WELL IT HAS ACTUALLY GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS SO THANK YOU GUYS FOR THAT.
AT THIS TIME I WOULD GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE WILL GO AHEAD AND START WITH MS. VALDES.
>> AS FAR AS APPROVING NOT WITH THE DELIVERY TIMES OR DO WE KNOW ANYONE FOR THAT WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT? I THINK THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER NOT GIVING THEM A TIME RESTRICTION ON THAT BECAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT AS A NEW BUSINESS FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO RECEIVE THEIR SHIPMENTS AND IF IT HAS NOT BEEN AN ISSUE WITH THE OTHER DEALERSHIPS THEN WE SHOULD BE FAIR TO ALL PARTIES WHEN IT COMES TO THAT.
DO HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR WANT TO CLOSE AND IF EVERYTHING IS OKAY THEN --
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ, SORRY ABOUT THAT.
I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THE NEEDING TO RECEIVE VEHICLES WHENEVER THE SHIPMENT, YOU KNOW, CAN GET THERE AND I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT BUT WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO AND OR IN THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT THAT WE ADD OR THAT WE DO AT THE LANGUAGE THAT BETWEEN 7:00 A.M.
THAT THE DELIVERIES MUST BE DONE ON NOT ON THE BACK ROAD JUST SO THAT IT IS THERE IN CASE, YOU KNOW, I AM SURE MR. THIEL HAS EVERY INTENTION TO FOLLOW THIS BUT HE MAY SELL THE DEALERSHIP DOWN THE ROAD AND WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO SOMEHOW MAKE SURE THAT THIS AGREEMENT CONTINUES AND IS THERE A WAY TO CHANGE THAT LANGUAGE IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO SAY THAT IN THOSE HOURS THEY WILL DELIVER NOT BEHIND THE DEALERSHIP BUT FARTHER DOWN OR ON FIFTIES WAY OR VARNER OR ANY OTHER PLACE BUT THE BACK.
>> CHAIR, THIS IS DIRECTOR SNYDER COULD I PROVIDE A RESPONSE?
>> TO ANSWER THE COMMISSIONERS QUESTION I DO THINK A VERY SIMPLE WAY YOU COULD CONSIDER THAT IS THE APPLICANT WHERE IT STATES THE APPLICANT SHALL LIMIT VEHICLE DELIVERY SALES AND YOU COULD STATE THAT THE APPLICANT SHALL LIMIT ON-SITE VEHICLE LARGE TRUCKS FROM 7:00 A.M.
AND BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 7:00 P.M.
ALL DELIVERIES SHALL BE CONDUCTED ON THE ADJACENT PUBLIC ROADWAY SYSTEM.
OF COURSE, ASSISTING US TO WRITE THIS AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT BUT THAT IS MY ONLY CONCERN SO THAT WE HAVE THIS IN THE RECORD FOR THE LONG-TERM.
OTHERWISE, I THINK IT IS GREAT AND I REALLY LOVE THE FACT THAT THEY WILL PUT THAT WALKWAY AND I THINK THAT'S A GREAT ADDITION FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITY.
>> THE QUEUE, COMMISSIONER FRANZ.
COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ-CEJA OR VICE CHAIR DO YOU HAVE ANY CLOSING COMMENTS? OR IF I COULD GET SOMEONE TO MAKE A MOTION?
>> NO ADDITIONAL COMMENTS I THINK COMMISSIONERS SAID IT WELL.
WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO TAKE -- >> CHAIR, IF I MIGHT SUGGEST IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE WERE TWO PROPOSALS FLOATED.
ONE WOULD BE AS COMMISSIONER VALDES NOTED ELIMINATING THE CONDITION AND THEN THE OTHER OPTION WOULD BE REVISING THE CONDITION AND I THINK IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO GET A
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SENSE OF CLARITY TO SEE WHERE THE COMMISSIONERS ARE ON THAT BEFORE PROPOSING MOTIONS SO THAT POTENTIAL COHESIVE PATH FORWARD COULD ARISE.>> I AM IN FAVOR OF THE RESOLUTION WITH THE CHANGES AS MENTIONED BY KEVIN SNYDER.
>> SO, I WILL MOVE TO -- ZACH, HOW WOULD I, DO I SAY TO REMOVE OR TO --DASH.
>> SO, I THINK, DID I COUNT AT LEAST THREE OF YOU WERE ON BOARD OR THREE IF NOT MORE FOLKS ON BOARD WITH THE REVISION APPROACH THAT COMMISSIONER FRANZ MENTIONED AND WAS ARTICULATED?
>> YES, SO MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE THEN THAT THE MOTION WOULD BE FIRST REVISED CONDITION, WAS IT NUMBER TEN? OF THE GENERAL CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTION 1995 APPROVING CP -- 11 -- 1065 THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD LIMIT ON-SITE VEHICLE DELIVERIES BY SEMI TRUCKS OR LARGE TRUCKS, WHAT WAS IT, THE DIRECTOR SNYDER SAID.
>> BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 7:00 A.M.
>> AND THAT BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 7:00 P.M.
ALL DELIVERIES WILL BE ON THE ADJACENT PUBLIC ROADWAY SYSTEM AND THEN IN THE MOTION AFTER THAT I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE ALSO INCORPORATE THE OTHER PROPOSED REVISIONS THAT MS. GOMEZ WALKED THROUGH IN HER PROVISIONS SO THAT WOULD BE TO ADD OR TO MOVE CONDITION NUMBER SEVEN IN SECTION D AND TO ADD CONDITION NUMBER 23 IN SECTION 80 AND TO READ THE APPLICANT / DEVELOPER SHALL CONSTRUCT A 6-FOOT WIDE CONCRETE SIDEWALK PER CITY OF INDIO STANDARD PLAN NUMBER 132 ALONG VARNER ROAD PROPERTY FRONTAGE, FROM FIFTIES WAY TO NEWCASTLE DRIVE TO ADOPTION 199620 -- 11 -- 481 AND THEN TO DIRECT STAFF TO MAKE APPROPRIATE REVISIONS NOTED IN THE PROJECT FILE FOR THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FOR THE FIESTA KIA PROJECT.
>> A LITTLE BIT OF A MOUTHFUL BUT I GET TO THE EXTENT THAT IF I ARTICULATED WHAT YOU WERE ENVISIONING I THINK YOU COULD REFERENCE THAT IN YOUR MOTION AND CONFIRM THAT THAT WAS THE DIRECTION YOU ARE HEADING AND THE TEAMWORK APPROACH WORKING TO MAKE SURE IT'S IN THEIR.
>> I'M GOING TO TRY TO GIVE THIS A GO AND ZACH HELP ME IF I GET STUCK ALONG THE WAY SO I MOVED TO REVISE CONDITION TEN SECTION A WITH THE OUTLINED CONDITIONS SET FORWARD BY OUR ATTORNEY, IS THAT.
[LAUGHTER] >> YEAH, I THINK THAT WOULD WORK AND FOR THE SAKE OF CLARITY ON THAT POINT AND THEN I WILL LET YOU CONTINUE WITH MOTION TO LIMIT ON-SITE VEHICLE DELIVERIES BY SEMI TRUCKS OR OTHER LARGE TRUCKS FROM 7:00 A.M.
AND IN THE HOURS FROM 7:00 P.M.
ALL DELIVERIES WOULD BE ON THE ADJACENT PUBLIC ROADWAY SYSTEM.
>> AND THEN WE WOULD TO REMOVE THE CONDITION SEVEN SECTION B AND TO ADD THE NEW CONDITION 23 SECTION 80, DOES THAT COVER IT?
>> ONE THING I WOULD SORRY, ONE THING I WOULD CONSIDER IS DIRECTING AND INCLUDING IN YOUR MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO MAKE THE APPROPRIATE REVISIONS AND PROJECT FILE FOR THE CONDITIONS APPROVAL JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS MEMORIALIZED GOING FORWARD.
>> IF WE COULD ADD THAT TO THE MOTION I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
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OKAY, LAST ITEM 8.3 WHICH IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT 20 -- 05 -- 547 GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT 20 -- 75120 SPECIFIC PLAN 203920 -- 05479 AND DESIGN REVIEW 20
[8.3 Ventana Project – Environmental Assessment 20-05-547, General Plan Amendment 20-05-120, Specific Plan 20-05-39, Tentative Tract Map 20-05 479, and Design Review 20-05-473]
-- 05743.THE APPLICANT MR. MARIO GONZALEZ AVENUE 50 IS REQUESTING THE VENTANA PROJECT WAS IS A LOW CONSISTING OF 123 UNITS, PEDESTRIAN TRAILS, DOG PARK AND OPEN-SPACE COMMON AREAS.
I BELIEVE LEILA IS LEAD ON THIS.
YES MADAM CHAIR, DID YOU WANT TO ASK THE QUESTION THAT YOU ASKED REGARDING ARE THERE PROJECTS THE BEGINNING FROM THE COMMISSION.
>> [INAUDIBLE] >> YES, AGAIN, I'M ASKING THE QUESTION IF ANYONE HAS ANY EX PARTE MEDICATION WITH THE APPLICANT? PLEASE STATE SO.
>> I RECEIVED AN E-MAIL JUST ADVISING US THAT THE PROJECT WAS COMING BACK BEFORE US BUT I DID NOT REPLY OR HAVE ANY DIRECT COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE DEVELOPER.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO PUT ON THE RECORD THAT MR. GONZALES REQUEST AND SOME OF THE E-MAIL I DID RESPOND AND HAD A 30 MINUTE CONVERSATION JUST YESTERDAY WITH HIM WHERE HE WAS ABLE TO GO OVER THE PROJECT AND THAT IS JUST ABOUT IT.
>> YES, SAME AS COMMISSIONER BUT WAS NOT ABLE TO REPLY OR TOUCH BASE WITH MR. GONZALES AT THAT TIME.
>> IN CHAIR IF I MAY, ASK A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION OF COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ-CEJA TO THE EXTENT THAT ACCURATE IF YOU WOULD ALSO BE WILLING TO STATE PURSUANT TO HIS CONVERSATION WHETHER HE REMAINS UNBIASED WHEN MAKING HIS DECISION BASED ON THE INFORMATION IN THE RECORD?
>> YOU WANT THAT FOR CHRISTIAN TO STATE THAT, CORRECT?
>> YES, ACCURATE TO YES CLARIFY THE COMMUNICATION HE HAD AND THAT HE REMAINS UNBIASED FOR THE HEARING NOW.
>> TO REMAIN UNBIASED, MR. ODRIGUEZ-CEJA?
I APOLOGIZE BUT I LOST CONNECTION FOR A BIT SO I DON'T KNOW IF I WAS CHOPPY BUT YEAH.
THERE ARE NO FURTHER COMMENTS WE WILL GO AHEAD AND YOU ARE UP.
>> AND Q, MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
EVERYBODY SEES MY SCREEN? YES?
>> I HAVE IT ON THE SCREEN SO I APOLOGIZE IF YOU DON'T SEE MY FACE.
AS YOU MENTIONED THIS IS A PROJECT THAT IT IS THE VENTANA PROJECT AND A RESIDENTIAL PROJECT AND THE PROJECT INCLUDES DIFFERENT COMPONENTS WHICH IS GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT, SPECIFIC PLAN, TENTATIVE TRACT MAP AND THEY DID AN EIR ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT ASSESSMENT AND ALSO INCLUDES A DESIGN REVIEW.
THE PROJECT IS LOCATED NORTH OF AVENUE 50, EAST OF JEFFERSON AND IT IS BETWEEN BASICALLY BETWEEN AND MADISON STREET.
THIS PROJECT CAME BEFORE YOU END OF LAST YEAR AS A GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT WITH AN INITIAL STUDY HOWEVER, AT THE TIME THEY WERE PLANNING TO AMEND THE GENERAL PLAN FROM ONE UNIT PER ACRE TO EIGHT UNITS PER ACRE AND AS YOU SEE, THIS MAP SHOWS THE CURRENT ZONING FOR THE PROJECT AND FOR THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES SO
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THE CURRENT ZONING FOR THE PROJECT IS BRANCHES WANTED TO WHICH LOT SIZES ONE OR 2 ACRES AND SURROUNDED BY THE EAST SIDE BY SEE EIR ONE AND TWO IN THE WEST SIDE BY SEE EIR HALF AND IT MEANS PERHAPS OUR HALF ACRES AS YOU RECALL THIS IS REVERSING THINGS.AND SO CURRENTLY THEY ARE BASICALLY PROPOSING TO AMEND THE GENERAL PLAN FROM DESERT STATE NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH ALLOWS ONE UNIT PER ACRE TO A NEW INTRODUCE THIS DESIGNATION WHICH IS TRANSITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT ALLOWS, ONE APPROVED, A 03 UNITS PER ACRE AND THE PROJECT INCLUDES A SPECIFIC PLAN WHICH BASICALLY IT SETS THE FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, TENTATIVE TRACT MAP TO SUBDIVIDE THE LOT FOR SEVERAL LOTS INTO 103 RESIDENTIAL LOTS AND DESIGN REVIEW WHICH WILL BE FOR THE DESIGN OF THE PROJECT.
AS A RESULT OF THE SUBDIVISION THE DENSITY OF THE PROJECT WILL BE 2.3 ACRES.
THIS IS AGAIN SHOWS YOU THE GENERAL PLAN 24 WHICH SHOWS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS DESERT STATE NEIGHBORHOOD INCLUDING THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
THE ORANGE ON THE CORNER AVENUE 50 AND JEFFERSON IS THE CITRUS PLAZA SHOPPING CENTER.
THIS SHOWS THE SOUTHERN NEIGHBORHOODS PER THE GENERAL PLAN AND AS YOU SEE THE PROPERTY IS WITHIN THAT SOUTHERN NEIGHBORHOOD LOCATED HERE.
ALSO, FOR OUR GENERAL PLAN THE SOUTHERN NEIGHBORHOOD IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE A MINIMUM TRANSFORMATION AS FAR AS THE DENSITY.
WITH WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING WITH THIS NEW INTRODUCED GENERAL PLAN LINE WE ARE GOING FROM ONE-THREE AND THIS DESIGNATION WHICH IS TRANSITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD RULE ONLY APPLIES TO THE 45 ACRES.
[INAUDIBLE] IT MOVES IT FROM ONE WHICH THE STAFF BELIEVES THIS IS MORE SUITABLE FOR THE AREA AS IT IS LIKE SURROUNDED BY HALF-ACRE WITHIN THE COUNTRY STATE OF THE CITY, NORTH OF AVENUE 49 HAS A DIFFERENT DEAL WHICH IS NEVER WAS PART OF THE COUNTRY STATE AND BUILD PER THE RESIDENTIAL LAW SO STILL STAFF BELIEVES THIS IS A MORE SUITABLE DENSITY FOR THIS AREA OF THIS CITY.
THIS SHOWS THE LAYOUT OF THE PROPERTY AND AS YOU WILL REMEMBER, THEY WERE PROVIDING AN EMERGENCY EXIT OR ACCESS THROUGH THIS LOT AND THE RIGHT IMAGE WHICH AT THE TIME WE FOUND THAT THIS ACCESS WAS NOT GRANTED FOR THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO THE EAST SO IN THE NEW VERSION THAT ACCESS IS NOT THERE AND IT HAS OR THAT BECAME PART OF THE RETENTION BASIN AND GREEN AREA AND FIRE HAS APPROVED THIS ACCESS HERE
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WHICH SHOWS ONE WAY UP AND ONE WAY OUT WITH SEPARATION.THE PROJECT INCLUDES TWO PLANNING AREAS.
PLANNING AREA ONE WHICH IS THIS AREA YELLOW AND IT WILL NOT BE GATED.
PLANNING AREA 2A WHICH IS THE ORANGE HAS A SMALLER LOT AND PLANNING AREA TO BE HAS LARGER AND THEN YOU SEE THE GREEN AREA.
THIS IS BASICALLY THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE IS THE FLOOR PLAN FOR PLANNING ONE WHICH HAS THE SMALLER LOT AND IT IS STILL A SINGLE-FAMILY WITH A DETACHED WITH PROPER SETBACK AND THIS IS THE LARGER LOTS OR LARGER FLOOR PLANS FOR THE LARGER LOTS.
THESE ARE THE IMAGES THAT BASICALLY THIS IS PART OF YOUR DESIGN PACKAGE THAT SHOWS HOW THE LANDSCAPE AND ENTRANCE TO THE PROPERTY WILL LOOK LIKE.
AS YOU SEE, THIS RED AREA BEING ENLARGED HERE, AVENUE 50, IT SHOWS THE LANDSCAPE ENTRANCE TO THE FIRST COMMUNITY PLANNING AREA WILL LOOK LIKE.
SORRY, I'M TRYING TO FIND WHITE ARROW.
THIS AREA IS, AS I SAID, AGAIN WITHIN THE COMMUNITY SHOWS THE LANDSCAPE IN THE STREET ESCAPE AND WHAT YOU WILL LOOK AT WHEN YOU GO THROUGH THE COMMUNITY.
AGAIN, THIS IS THE POCKET PART AND THE OTHER AREA NUMBER TWO WHICH SHOWS THE DESIGN OF IT IN THE LANDSCAPE AND AS YOU SEE IN THE BOTTOM, IT HAS A COMMUNITY WALL WITH COLUMNS AND LIGHTING AND TRELLISES THROUGHOUT.
THIS ONE IS ANOTHER POCKET PARK WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
WHEN YOU GO THROUGH THE AREA THAT IT COULD BE GATED IT HAS A ROUNDABOUT AND COMMUNITY PARK.
THIS TABLE SHOWS THE [INAUDIBLE] LOT COVERAGE IS AND LOT SIZES AND THE SETBACKS.
AS YOU CAN SEE IT IS VERY COMPATIBLE WITH RESIDENTIAL HOWEVER, IN SOME AREAS WE HAVE LARGER SETBACKS.
THESE ARE THE ELEVATIONS AND AS YOU SEE THE PROJECT IS PROPOSING SEVERAL THREE TYPES OF ELEVATIONS.
KIND OF MODERN WHICH IS HERE AND THEN THEY HAVE SPANISH INFLUENCE AND THEY ARE HAVING ALSO SANTA BARBARA SO I WILL GO THROUGH THIS ELEVATIONS QUICKLY, IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO STOP, LET ME KNOW.
THEY HAVE THE [INAUDIBLE] COMPONENT AND THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT WILL BE 24 FOR SOME OF THE HOMES AND AGAIN THIS IS THE SMALLER FOOTPRINT.
THIS SHOWS THE COLOR COMBINATION AND TYPE OF COLORS.
STAFF RECOMMENDS ALSO HAS CREATED OR PROVIDED THE COMMISSION WITH THE MEMO THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING REVISION TO RESOLUTION 1955 WHICH APPROVING THE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OBTAINING THE TRACT MAP AND THOSE CONDITIONS ARE CONDITION 27, 35, 63, AND 55 WHICH WERE IN REGARDS TO ACCESS AND ENGINEERING COMMENTS WHICH YOU HAVE THE MEMO AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO READ THOSE CONDITIONS I HAVE IT AS WELL AND I CAN READ IT.
WITH THAT STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF RESOLUTIONS FOR THE IR AND I WOULD LIKE THE COMMISSION TO NOTE FOR APPROVAL OF THE GENERAL PLAN AND THE SPECIFIC PLAN ADOPTIONS WE NEED TO HAVE, THEY NEED TO MADE BY AFFIRMATIVE VOTE OF NOT LESS THAN THE MAJORITY SO IN THIS CASE NOT LESS THAN THREE.
I ALSO STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTIONS TO ADOPT THE TENTATIVE TRACT MAP AND THE DESIGN REVIEW.
THAT CONCLUDES MY STAFF REPORT.
I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT IS ALSO IN THE AUDIENCE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
ANY QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION TO STAFF?
LEILA, I NOTE THAT THIS IS [INAUDIBLE] THEY WILL CHANGE THE ALLOTTED DENSITY AND I KNOW THAT WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED RIGHT NOW IS NOT THE FULL EXTENT OF IT BUT
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I'M JUST CURIOUS AS TO, IF ADOPTED, HOW WOULD THIS AFFECT YOU KNOW ANY SORT OF ADDITIONAL CHANGES IN THE FUTURE? IF.>> ANY ADDITIONAL CHANGES IN THE FUTURE TO THIS PROPERTY?
CURRENTLY THE APPLICANT IS BRINGING A TENTATIVE TRACT MAP WHICH HAS 103 LOTS AND WITH THE DENSITY OF 2.3 AND THEY CAN COME BACK AND BRING A NEW MAP WITH THE DENSITY OF THREE UNITS PER ACRE WHICH THAT COULD BE AROUND 130, 135 LOTS AND THEY WILL BE MORE LOTS BUT THEY NEED TO COME BACK WITHIN THE NEW MAP AND ALSO THEY NEED TO AMEND THEIR SPECIFIC PLAN BECAUSE CURRENTLY THE SPECIFIC PLAN IS SET FOR 103 LOTS WITH THE DENSITY OF 2.3 BUT THEY NEED TO COME BACK BEFORE THE COMMANDING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL IF THEY CHOOSE TO MAX THE DENSITY TO THREE.
DID I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, SIR?
>> ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS TO LEILA? OKAY, AT THIS TIME I WILL GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING AND IF THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME OKAY? THANK YOU.
G COMMISSIONERS FRANZ, RODRIGUEZ-CEJA AND STAFF AND I'M MARIO GONZALEZ ON BEHALF OF AVENUE 50 INDIO LLC WITH THE APPLICANT AND THE SUBJECT LAND OWNERS.
30875 DATE PALM DRIVE, [INAUDIBLE] I WOULD LIKE TO THINK LEILA FOR ALL HER HARD WORK AND FOR ALL HER EFFORTS IN THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AND CITY STAFF, AS WELL AS REBECCA WHEN SCOTT ACTING FIRE MARSHAL.
WE ARE ALL APPRECIATIVE THAT THE CITY LEADERSHIP COMMISSION'S STAFF EFFORTS AND CONSIDERATION TO CONTINUE BUSINESS UNDER THESE CHALLENGING TIMES ALTHOUGH I BELIEVE WE ALL CAN CAN SEE LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL AND I'M JOINED BY MY PARTNERS BRET, PRESIDENT AND MATT, DIRECTOR OF INVESTMENTS FOR KRAMER LAND COMPANY AND KRAEMER LAND COMPANY IS 120 -YEAR-OLD COMPANY TESTED OVER TIME AND GH A COMPANIES HAVE BEEN IN BUSINESS JUST UNDER 40 YEARS.
OUR STRATEGIC ALLIANCE BRINGS OVER 100 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN REAL ESTATE PLANNING AND TITLE MEANT, DEVELOPMENT, CONSTRUCTION AND MANAGEMENT OF RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES LOCALLY AND ABROAD.
I'M ALSO JOINED BY OUR EXPERIENCED AND SEASONED TEAM.
WE HAVE OUR CIVIL ENGINEER ON BOARD, CHRIS FROM MDS CONSULTING.
OUR ARCHITECTURE TEAM ART AND ALAN FROM THE ARCHITECTS AND OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS CHUCK FROM HSA LANDSCAPE AND DESIGN AND FOR PLANNING AND TECHNICAL PURPOSES WE HAVE NICOLE, PRINCIPAL OF TERRANOVA PLANNING AND RESEARCH AND WE ALSO HAVE OUR ATTORNEY JEFF SPECIALIZING I ENVIRONMENTAL MATTERS FOR THE PAST 30 YEARS.
OUR TEAM IS PRESENT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR DEVELOPMENT IS CLEAR AND ADDRESSES ANY MATTERS OR TO ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS COMMISSIONER STAFF MAY HAVE.
I ALSO WANT TO KNOW THAT JHA IS DEVELOP A RECORD AND FOLLOWING INDIO PROJECTS, MONTAGE IN SANTA ROSA, LAS COLINAS, ON A STAGE SHOW, OF DAD AT JACKSON AND THE VISTAS ALL LOCATED IN INDIA.
PLANNED DENSITY AND DESIGN DOES NOT CHANGE BUT HAS ONLY GOTTEN BETTER.
OUR PROJECT IS TRULY AN INFILL SITE AND KNOWING THE INHERITANCE SENSITIVITY AND CHALLENGE OF EXISTING GREATS, STRANGE PATTERNS, WET AND DRY UTILITIES, SEASONED TEAM HAS CONSIDERED EVERY MEASURE POSSIBLE TO STAY WITHIN THE CHARACTER, QUALITY AND VALUES OF THIS AREA.
AND TO MAINTAIN BALANCE WITH THE SURROUNDING LAND USES.
ALL DONE WITH THE MINDFUL CONSIDERATION OF OUR EXISTING NEIGHBORS.
IN LESS THAN ONE HALF A MILE RADIUS FROM THE VENTANA PROJECT THERE ARE SEVEN OTHER DEVELOPMENT.
IT FITS VERY NICELY IN THE FABRIC OF THIS AREA AND THEY WILL MAINTAIN AND ENHANCE THE QUALITY AND VALUES OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES OFFERING A CHOICE OF NEW HOUSING STOCK WITHIN THE DESERT HE STATES AREA.
VENTANA WILL BRING NEW INFRASTRUCTURE AND NEW WATER MAIN FROM JEFFERSON STREET IS PART OF THE PROPOSAL IMPROVEMENTS AND THE BUILDOUT OF THE FRONT ON AVENUE 50 STREET SECTION INCLUDING THE UNDERGROUND ENOUGH POWER POLES.
I COMMISSION AND PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS THAT WE WILL NOT BE BUILDING DENSITIES UP TO EIGHT DWELLING UNITS AND WE WILL NOT BE BUILDING TYPICAL TWO-STORY HOME.
VENTANA'S PLAN FOR AN OVERALL DENSITY OF 2.3 UNITS PER ACRE AND OUR NEIGHBORING DESERT RIVER AND STATES IS 2.2.
VENTANA IS DESIGNED FOR UNITS PER ACRE AND THE COMPLETE SPECIFIC PLAN PROTECTS THE CITY AND THE NEIGHBORS FROM ONLY 2.3 PROJECT DENSITY IN PERPETUITY.
IF I MAY ASK THE COMMISSION I HAVE A SMALL DEBT OF SOME EXHIBITS THAT IF I COULDN'T SHARE I AM NOT SURE HOW WE CAN LET ONE OF OUR TEAM MEMBERS FROM TERRANOVA, KELLY, WHO HAS A COUPLE OF THOSE SLIDES AND IF THAT WOULD BE OKAY WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION?
>> KELLY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE PART OF THIS BUT -- I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF SHE IS ON.
>> I HAVE THE POWER POINTS OUT, MARIO.
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COULD BE HAVE THE FIRST PAGE PLEASE.
>> SO THIS IS OUR COVER OF OUR DECK.
THIS EXHIBIT HERE IS AN EXHIBIT FROM THAT IS WE ARE ACROSS THE STREET AT THE ENTRANCE OF THE EXISTING TOLL BROTHERS COUNTRY CLUB THERE AND WE ARE LOOKING TO THE NORTHWEST OF THE PROPERTY.
AS YOU NOTE, WE HAVE A DOUBLE I'LL WAIT HERE AND OUR SIGNAGE IS OFF TO THE FRONT AND THIS PICTURE WILL DEPICT THE OVERALL AT THE END OF THE DAY HOW THE STREET IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE TREATED ON 50TH AVENUE.
AS LEILA POINTED OUT THE PROJECT WILL REQUIRE A GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT.
WE ARE GOING TO PROPOSE TRANSITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD UP TO THREE UNITS PER ACRE AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE TIME, CHAIRWOMAN, YOU CAN STOP ME WHEN HE WANTS BUT I DID HEAR FROM ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS ABOUT THE DENSITY AND ABOUT THE CONCERN ABOUT ADDING UNITS.
OUR PROJECT I CAN GO ON RECORD TO SAY THAT OUR PROJECT WILL BE 103 UNITS AND THAT IS OUR PLAN AND WE HOPE TO STICK TO THAT.
THERE IS NO OTHER AGENDA OR ANYTHING TO COME IN WITH MORE UNITS BUT WE WILL HAVE 103 UNITS AT THE END OF THE DAY.
SPECIFIC PLAN WE ARE PROVIDING MAKES US GO AHEAD AND PROVIDE ALL THE ARCHITECTURAL AND SPECIFIC DESIGN GUIDELINES SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC AND THE CITY ENSURES A CERTAIN DESIGN GUIDELINES AND THE TENTATIVE TRACT MAP, AS WAS NOTED, WAS 45.17 ACRES WILL BE TURNED TO INTO 103 UNITS AND OF COURSE WE ARE GOING TO ASK FOR DESIGN REVIEW ARCHITECTURE LANDSCAPE ELEMENTS AND WE HAVE COMPLETED AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT.
THE PLANNING AREAS THAT WERE NOTED AS LEILA POINTED OUT THIS IS THE SAME EXHIBIT THAT SHE POINTED OUT.
I DO WANT TO SAY THAT IN THE YELLOW AREAS AT THE FRONT OF THE BOTTOM LEFT PART OF THE MAP WE HAVE A TWO-STORY HOME PROPOSED AND WE WILL ONLY BE BUILDING A TWO-STORY HOME PROPOSED WITHIN THE YELLOW AREA AND THA BASICALLY ABOUT 20% OF THE OVERALL, MAYBE 15%, OF THE OVERALL FOOTPRINT OF THE HOME, OF THE SINGLE-STORY HOME.
OUT OF THE 23 HOMES WE MAY ONLY BE BUILDING 11, 12, MAYBE 15 IN THE AREA THAT WE DO HAVE THE THREE PLANNING AREAS, AS NOTED, WE HAVE THE ENTRY WHERE WE HAVE THE DOUBLE I'LL ENTRY AND AS YOU GO INTO FROM LOT EIGHT AND 2B AND MAKE A LEFT ON LOTS I THAT IS THE ACCESS POINT IN THE PLANNING AREA ONE IN THOSE HOMES WILL RANGE FROM 2200 TO ABOUT 2500 AND THEY WILL ALL HAVE PROPER BACKYARDS AT A MINIMUM OF 25, 35-FOOT IN DEPTH AND LOTS NUMBER, ALL LOTS EXCEPT LOTS NUMBER 18 THROUGH 23 WILL HAVE A SELF EXPOSURE SO THERE A SINGLE LOADED TO STREET AND THEY HAVE GREAT EXPOSURE TO THE BACK.
IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR US TO TRY TO OFFER A TWO-STORY POP-UP COMPONENT.
YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE THAT HORIZONTAL, VERTICALLY IT ADDS FOR A BETTER DESIGN AND IN PLANNING AREA NUMBER TWO THAT IS IN THE CENTER OF THE PROPERTY AND THOSE ARE LARGER LOTS AND THOSE LOTS WILL ACCOMMODATE PLANS NUMBER TWO AND THREE AND FOUR OR EXCUSE ME THREE, FOUR AND FIVE AND PLAN TO IS AT THE BOTTOM LEFT AND PLANNING AREA 2B IS ON THE PERIPHERY OF KIND OF LIKE LOTS NUMBER 103293 IN THE BACK AND WE DID THAT PURPOSELY WHERE WE INCREASED SETBACKS AND HAVE LARGER LOTS AND WE WERE VERY SENSITIVE TO THE WEST, THE NORTH AND THE EAST BOUNDARIES.
MAY I HAVE THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
THIS HERE SHOWS WHERE OR COULD I GO BACK TO THAT ONE?
I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT, YOU KNOW, THE PROPERTIES THAT JUST POPPED UP HERE IN THIS PLAN AT THE BOTTOM RIGHT THERE IS MR. ORRIS' PROPERTY AND MR. INCAID'S PROPERTY AND WE WERE VERY SENSITIVE TO THOSE EDGES IT AS YOU SEE, WE HAVE A FULL LANDSCAPE AREA TO THE NORTH AND THAT IS IDENTIFIED AS LOT TO BE AND LOT YOU AND LOT NUMBER OH AS WELL AS THE STREET SO THERE IS ABOUT 200, THREE AND A ANY TYPE OF FROM THE HOMES THAT ARE EXISTING RIGHT THERE AND AT OUR ENTRYWAY YOU CAN NOTE THAT UNDER LOT YOU THERE IS A LANDSCAPE BUFFER THAT GOES ALL THE WAY SOUTH AND THEN A DOUBLE I'LL WAIT AND THE PLANTER YOU SEE IN BETWEEN THE ISLAND IS ABOUT 16 FEET
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ON AVERAGE AND GOES TO ABOUT 10 FEET SO WE WERE VERY SENSITIVE TO THAT AREA AND SOAK NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.THIS, AGAIN, WAS A SLIDE THAT LEILA HAD AND YOU CAN SEE THE DETAIL OF THE TABLE IN THE PLANNING AREAS AND SO FORTH.
BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, W DESIGNED THE PEDESTRIAN FAMILY PUBLIC SPACE AND WE HAVE A DOG PARK AND THE DOG PARK IS RIGHT UP TO 50 AND I WILL TOUCH ON THAT IN THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
>> THIS THREE DIMENSIONAL SIMULATION IS A PICTURE.
THE MOUNTAINS AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU SEE OUR ACTUAL MOUNTAINS.
THIS WAS TAKEN TO THE PROPERTY TO THE IMMEDIATE EAST OF US, THE LARGER PROPERTY.
WE SIMULATED THE HEIGHT AND THIS WILL GIVE YOU A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THE SEPARATION THAT WE HAD BETWEEN THAT PROPERTY AND IT GIVES YOU A NICE ILLUSTRATION OF THE HOMES AND, YOU KNOW, SOME MOVEMENTS, PEDESTRIAN AND THE HICKEY ALERT MOVEMENT.
THE BUILDING THAT YOU SEE TO THE RIGHT BETWEEN THE TWO PALM TREES THAT IS A LITTLE STRUCTURE AND THAT'S AN ENTRY STRUCTURE SO AS YOU COME INTO THE PROPERTY FROM 50 YOU WILL ARRIVE THERE AND THAT WILL BE, IT'S ONLY A STRUCTURE.
IT IS NOT MANNED AND IT IS MORE OF AN IMAGE BECAUSE YOU GO FROM THE ENTRY TO THE HACIENDAS AND THEN AS YOU GO PAST THAT STRUCTURE IT LEADS YOU TO THE NORTH INTO THE STATES WHICH IS LARGER LOTS, LARGER PLANS, LARGER PRICE POINTS.
THIS ALSO IS A SIMULATION THAT DEPICTS THIS IS AN ACTUAL SHOT OF THE MOUNTAINS AND WE WERE VERY SENSITIVE TO, YOU KNOW, OBSTRUCTION OF VIEW CORE DOORS AND MAINTAINING VIEWS FOR OUR NEIGHBORS AND SO FORTH AND THIS PARTICULAR PICTURE IS AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE KINCAID PROPERTY AND THAT WAS THE SECOND PROPERTY THAT YOU SAW IN THAT PREVIOUS SLIDE TO THE RIGHT.
AND THIS JUST SHOWS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE.
WE HAVE, AGAIN, SOME VERY NICE OPEN A SPACE BETWEEN THE LARGER PROPERTIES AND OUR PROPERTIES.
THIS IS OUR EASTERLY BOUNDARY LOOKING TO THE WEST.
WE ARE ALSO APPLYING AND CEMENTING FOR A TENTATIVE TRACT MAP, AS WAS NOTED PEERED WE ARE 45.17 GROSS ACRES AND ASKING FOR 103 UNITS AND WE HAVE THE HACIENDA LOTS THAT ARE FROM 7,000-7600 AND THOSE ARE SMALLER HOMES FOUND ON LOT NUMBERS ONE THROUGH 23.
THEY WILL HAVE PROPER BACKYARDS SOMETIMES 35 SQUARE FEET.
THE VILLAS ARE THE LOTS THAT ARE CONCENTRATED MORE IN THE CENTER AND THEY WILL BE FROM MINIMUM 11,000-14,000 SQUARE FEET AND THE ESTATE LOTS ON THE PERIPHERAL FROM LOT NUMBER 75-86 ALL AROUND THE BOUNDARIES OF THE PROPERTY AND THOSE LOTS WILL RANGE FROM 13,500 UP TO 20,600 SQUARE FEET.
THIS IS SOME DETAIL ON THE ONE OF THE CIVIL ENGINEERS TRACT MAP PLANS.
THIS PICTURE OR THIS SLIDE GIVES A PRETTY GOOD ILLUSTRATION OF THE PROPERTY TO THE IMMEDIATE WEST OF US WHERE YOU SEE LOT NUMBER NINE, TEN, 11 WHERE WE ARE VERY SENSITIVE TO THE GRADES I THINK WE WILL HAVE A MAXIMUM GRADE DIFFERENTIAL OF ONE BLOCK WHICH IS ABOUT 8 INCHES UP TO 1 FOOT AND THAT WOULD ALSO BE CONSISTENT ON THE TRACT THAT IS IMMEDIATE NORTH TO US AND THAT WOULD BE ADJACENT TO LOTS NUMBER 93, 92, 91 AND 90 ON THIS PARTICULAR PLAN.
WE HAVE INCREASED THOSE SETBACKS AND HAVE LARGER LOTS AND THEN AROUND WICKETT LANE THERE ARE THREE HOMES THAT ARE SHOWN THERE AND AGAIN WE HAVE THE LARGER LOTS THERE AND THE GREAT DIFFERENTIALS WILL BE MAXIMUM 8 INCHES-1 FOOT SO THAT IS ABOUT A BLOCK AND I SAY OR ONE CONCRETE MASONARY BLOCK THAT WE USE FOR WALLS AND AS LEILA POINTED OUT THIS MAY NOT BE A GREAT EXAMPLE BUT TO THE LEFT OF LOT NUMBER 76 WE ELIMINATED THE NEED FOR THE EVA, AS SHE MENTIONED EARLIER, SO THAT IS NO LONGER IN THE PLAN.
THESE ARE THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLES THAT WE ARE SHOWING.
THE PLANS ARE AT THE BOTTOM THERE ARE PLANS NUMBER ONE AND TWO AND THOSE ARE HACIENDA PLANS AND THOSE PLANS, IF YOU NOTED UNDER PLAN 1B AND ONE A THAT IS THE ONLY POP UP AREA OR THE ONLY COMPONENT IN THE ARCHITECTURE FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT THAT WILL HAVE A POP UP IN THE THREE WINDOWS THAT YOU SEE TO THE RIGHT ARE BASICALLY THE STAIRWELL AND THEN THE LITTLE COMPONENT TO THE LEFT UNDER THE PLAN 1B AND THE IA IS THE TWO-STORY COMPONENT AND THAT GIVES YOU FLEXIBILITIES.
THOSE PLANS WILL START FROM 2180 SQUARE FEET AND GO UP TO ABOUT 2500 SQUARE FEET AND THE BOTTOM PLANS AND ON THE BOTTOM PLANS WE WILL INTRODUCE THE SANTA BARBARA AND SPANISH COLONIAL AND THEN THE PLANS TO THE TOP OF THIS SHEET ARE LARGER PLANS
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AND THE ONE TO THE LEFT IS THE PLAN NUMBER THREE AND THAT IS STARTING AT ABOUT 2600 AND THAT CAN FLEX UP TO ABOUT 3,000 SQUARE FEET.THE PLAN IN THE MIDDLE AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THE IMAGE IS A LITTLE DARKER THAN I WILL SHOW YOU IN THE COLOR PALLETS AND WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN THAT IS THAT DARK BUT IT HAPPENED TO PRINT THAT WAY WHERE IT IS SANTA BARBARA AND THAT IS OUR LARGEST PLAN AND THAT WILL START AT 3500 SQUARE FEET AND GO UP TO ABOUT 4,000 AND THEN THE SPANISH COLONIAL TO THE RIGHT, IF YOU NOTICE, THERE IS NO GARAGE DOORS FACING THE STREET SO WE DESIGNED A PLAN WITH THE ARCHITECTS THAT WE HAVE A SWING IN GARAGE TO GIVE YOU SOME INTEREST ON THE STREET SCENE.
AND A COUPLE OR THIS IS SOME DESIGN, OUR COLOR SCHEMES.
Y DARKER BUT WE ARE TRYING TO STAY NEUTRAL WITH WHAT IS OUT THERE.
YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THIS THIS WAS AN EARLIER SLIDE THAT LEILA I THINK PUT UP AND SHE BROKE DOWN THE ACTIVE AREAS THAT WE HAVE.
WE HAVE AN ACTIVE AREA TO THE TOP AND ONE IN THE MIDDLE AND THERE ARE GATES ON THE, IF YOU FOLLOW WHERE IT SAYS AVENUE 50 AND YOU FOLLOW THE ROAD THAT GOES UP TO THAT FIRST PARK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SCREEN AND YOU SEE WHERE IT SAYS ENTRY AND EXIT GATES THAT IS WHERE YOU WILL HIT SOME GATES RIGHT THERE AND THEN WE HAVE THE TURNAROUND AND THEN WHERE IT SAYS THAT WE HAVE THE ENTRY BUILDING AND ACCESS CONTROL SO YOU WILL FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE A MANNED GATE BUT YOU DON'T AND THEN WHEN YOU GET TO THE GATES THAT WILL ALLOW YOU TO GO YOU INTO THE ESTATE AREA AND AGAIN AS WAS NOTED THERE IS NO GATES GOING INTO LOTS ONE THROUGH 23.
THIS PROJECT WILL BE GOVERNED BY A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION SO WE WILL MAINTAIN OUR OWN OR WE WILL HAVE SOME THAT GOVERN THAT WITH THE ASSOCIATION AS FAR AS COMMON AREAS AND SO FORTH.
THIS IS THIS BREAKING DOWN SOME OF THE COMPONENTS OF THE LANDSCAPE COMPONENTS IN THE ONE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ENTRY PORTICO CROCHET IS A STRUCTURE THAT WE THINK IS PRETTY COOL AND WHEN YOU GO IN THERE IT FEELS LIKE YOU'RE ARRIVING AND YOU GO THROUGH THE GATES AND ENTER INTO THE ESTATES IN THE SHOWS YOU SOME OF THE TYPE OF MONUMENTS AND DESIGNS THAT WE WILL USE AND IT HAS THE VENTANA SIGN THAT YOU SAW IN THE ORIGINAL SLIDE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
WE ARE EVEN BREAKING DOWN THE STOP SIGNS WE'RE LOOKING THAT WE CAN USE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF STANDARD FOR THE POLL AND OUR SIGNS IN OUR MAILBOX OR KIOSK STRUCTURE SO WE TRY TO ENHANCE THEM AND PUT A LIGHT OUT THERE AND WE TYPICALLY PUT A SEAT OUT THERE FOR SOMEONE WALKING THE DOG AND THIS IS SOME OF THE DETAILS OF OUR LANDSCAPE PLAN.
THIS CONCLUDES MY LITTLE SLIDE PRESENTATION.
FINALLY, I JUST WANT TO FINISH BY SAYING THAT WE REVIEWED THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL AND THE MEMORANDUM TO CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL AND WE APPROVE THEM AND WE ASK THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE VENTANA DEVELOPMENT AND I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMISSION MAY HAVE AND HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REBUT OR ANY OF OUR CONSULTANTS THAT ARE WITH US THIS EVENING AND WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS MIGHT HAVE.
DO WE HAVE ANY COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? OKAY, SEEN THAT THERE ARE NONE.
>> I DID NOT REALIZE I HAD MY THING ON MUTE.
MR. GONZALEZ, I WANTED TO BETTER UNDERSTAND AS YOU ARE PUTTING TOGETHER YOUR LANDSCAPE PLAN WERE YOU TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THAT GREEN IS GOOD BUT ALSO WATER CONSERVATION, SO REFLECTED OF THE, OF THE CURRENT LANDSCAPE PLAN?
>> YES, AND FORTUNATELY I HAVE A REALLY GOOD LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT AND CHUCK, ARE YOU ONLINE WITH US?
>> IF I MAY, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE YOU TO CHUCK SHEPHERDSON WHO IS THE LOCAL TALENT HERE AT HSA LANDSCAPE DESIGN OUT OF PALM DESERT AND THEY DO A LOT OF PROJECTS HERE IN THE VALLEY AND THEY ARE ONE OF OUR PROFESSIONAL CONSULTANTS THAT WE WORK WITH SOCHA, COULD ANSWER THAT QUESTION, PLEASE?
HER CONCERNS, WE DO SHOW TURF AREAS AND OUR RETENTION BASINS BUT WE ANTICIPATE THOSE AS BEING PASSIVE OPEN SPACE AREAS WHERE KIDS, FAMILIES CAN GO OUT AND ENJOY THAT AREA AND WE JUST FEEL BY HAVING TURF IN THE BOTTOM THEY ARE MUCH EASIER
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TO MAINTAIN AFTER YOU HAVE SOME TYPE OF STORM EVENTS THEN DOING JUST, YOU KNOW, DG AND GRAVEL SO WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE THIS A PART OF THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY HAVE GOT MORE OPEN SPACE TO ENJOY BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE REST OF OUR LANDSCAPE AROUND THE WHOLE STREET SCAPES AND EVERYTHING ELSE IT IS VERY ARID, VERY DRY AND WE HAVE DONE CALCULATIONS THAT WILL TOTALLY PASS CBW D AND INDIO WATER REQUIREMENTS FOR WATER USAGE SO WE ARE VERY AWARE OF THAT.ALL OUR PROJECTS ARE VERY MUCH IN LINE WITH KEEPING, YOU KNOW, A VERY WATER CONSCIOUS EFFORT IN OUR LANDSCAPE DESIGNS.
IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION, I HOPE.
> CONCERNS YOU MIGHT HAVE HAD?
>> I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF, IN THE DESIGNING AND THE LANDSCAPE PLAN IF YOU WERE THINKING ABOUT THOSE AS PRIORITIES.
WE HAVE BEEN OUT IN THE DESERT FOR HERE FOR 30 YEARS WE ARE VERY AWARE, YOU KNOW, OF WATER USAGE.
>> SO SOMETHING THAT IF I MAY COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ-CEJA THAT I FAILED TO POINT OUT THAT WE HAVE A REALLY COOL WALKING TRAIL THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY AND I THINK IT COUNTS OUT ONCE YOU DO A MILE AND HALF SO YOU CAN STAY WITHIN YOUR COMMUNITY AND WE DO HAVE SIDEWALKS IN THIS COMMUNITY AND IF I REMEMBER RIGHT WE WILL BE USING A ROLL CURB IN THE COMMITTEE IN CERTAIN STREETS WHERE YOU HAVE A SOFTER STREET SCAPE SCENE SO IT MAKES IT INVITING FOR PEOPLE TO GET OUT AND WALK AND OBVIOUSLY WHEN THE WEATHER IS GOOD.
>> ACTUALLY, FOLLOW-UP TO THAT, MR. GONZALEZ.
SO OPEN SPACES AND I WAS WATCHING THE LAST TIME THAT YOU CAME TO THE COMMISSION THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT ACCESS TO THE PUBLIC AREAS AND ARE THOSE GATED? I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS CLARIFIED WHEN I WATCHED THE LAST TIME YOU ALL PRESENTED.
>> YEAH, SO AS YOU COME IN TO THE LEFT AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN POINT BUT WE HAVE A DOG PARK RIGHT THERE.
IF YOU NOTICE TO THE LEFT OF THAT WE HAVE A DOG PARK AND THAT ROAD THAT GOES TO THE LEFT THAT DOUBLE I'LL WAY THAT IS OPEN SO THERE IS NO GATES.
I PASS THAT GATE AREA INTO THE ESTATE AREA BUT OUR, THE 23 LOTS TO THE BOTTOM ALL HAVE ACCESS TO THE WALKING TRAIL ABOVE THE PARK AND THERE WILL BE A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION MAY BE A SUB ASSOCIATION FOR THE SMALLER UNITS DOWN TO THE LEFT BUT THAT IS WHAT WE ARE THINKING ANYWAY.
>> AND THERE IS EXCESS, MARIO, AT THE NORTH END OF THE SMALLER UNITS THAT GETS YOU INTO THE COMMUNITY THROUGH A GATE THAT CAN LEAD YOU TO THE OTHER OPEN SPACE AREAS WITHIN THE LARGER COMMUNITY AND PLANNING AREA 2A AND 2B.
>> AND THOSE ARE ACCESSIBLE TO EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY?
ACCESS TO THAT COMMUNITY PARK OR -- >> NO, ONLY IF YOU LIVE THERE.
WE DON'T WANT TO THE TO BE ABLE TO GO IN THERE SPIRIT JUST THE SMALLER LOTS, RIGHT, HAVE ACCESS.
>> I SEE, SWEAT IS CLOSER TO AVENUE 50 IS ACCESSIBLE TO THE DOG PARK BUT THAT LARGE COMMUNITY PARK THAT WE SEE IN THE CENTER IS ONLY ACCESSIBLE TO THE FOLKS THAT LIVE IN THE GATED COMMUNITY.
CHUCK, HE'S TALKING ABOUT THE MIDDLE LARGER COMMON AREA AS YOU ENTER THE STATES SO YES, THOSE ARE PRIMARILY ONLY FOR PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE AND THERE IS NO GATE AS YOU SAID, COMMISSIONER, FOR THE SMALLER LOTS.
>> BUT MARIO I BELIEVE IT IS CORRECT TO SAY THAT THERE IS A PEDESTRIAN GATE FOR THE RESIDENCE OF THE SMALLER UNITS INTO THE ESTATE AREA.
>> YES, AT THE NORTH END OF THE SMALLER LOTS, PLANNING AREA ONE AND THERE IS A PEDESTRIAN GATE THAT LEADS YOU INTO THE LARGER COMMUNITY, THE GATED COMMUNITY, THAT GIVES YOU ACCESS TO THE OPEN SPACE AREAS WITHIN THAT COMMUNITY.
>> STAR, I JUST NEED TO CLARIFY.
THE PERSON THAT SPOKE EARLIER SAID THAT THAT ACCESS TO THAT PARTICULAR PUBLIC SPACES ONLY ACCESSIBLE FOR THOSE IN THE PLANNING ONE AREA?
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IS THAT RIGHT? OUTSIDE OF THE LARGER GATED COMMUNITY?>> IF SOMEONE, IF SOMEONE LIVES IN THE SMALLER LOTS, LOTS ONE-23 THEY WILL, THEY WILL BE ABLE TO WALK THROUGH A PEDESTRIAN GATE WHICH LEILA, I DON'T, THIS IS YOUR SLIDE AND THE PEDESTRIAN GATE WOULD BE NORTH AND YOU SEE THAT STRIPE ACROSS TO YOUR RIGHT, RIGHT THERE.
THE RESIDENTS OF LOTS ONE-23 CAN WALK THROUGH THE GATE INTO THE TRAIL IN THE PUBLIC SPACE THAT IS IN THE GATED PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT BUT IT WILL NOT BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
>> AND NICOLE, IF I COULD SAY, THOSE SIX SLOTS TO THE NORTH OF PLANNING AREA ONE THERE IS AN ACCESS WAY RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THOSE SIX SLOTS WITH A PEDESTRIAN GATE THAT IS ACCESS, YOU KNOW, THAT CAN BE ACCESSED BY THOSE LOTS IN ONE A TO GET INTO THE GATED COMMUNITY RIGHT THERE, EXACTLY.
>> OKAY, I THINK THAT CLARIFIES IT.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? SEEN THAT THERE ARE NONE, EVELYN, ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THE ITEM?
WE HAVE MR. MATT MORRIS AND I WILL GO AHEAD ON: HIM NOW.
>> YES, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO USE MY TIME, THE TIME FROM MS. LINCOLN CADE, AND THE TIME FOR MR. SAM KYLE.
GOOD EVENING TO COMMISSIONER AND THE COMMISSIONERS IN THE CHAIR PERSON.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
THERE IS A LOT TO BE ADDRESSED HERE IN A PROJECT CERTAINLY THE SIZE.
THE FIRST THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT HIS PROCEDURAL ISSUES.
THE TIME GIVEN TO THE DEVELOPER AND THE DEVELOPER STAFF AND THIS HAS BEEN A SIGNIFICANT, NOT ONLY TO PREPARE THIS WHICH IS TAKEN MONTHS, IF NOT YEARS BUT ALSO TO RESPOND TO ANY COMMENTS WHEREAS CITY MEMBERS AND NEIGHBORS THAT ARE CONCERNED THAT I'VE HAD A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.
IN FACT, THIS LAST EIR IN THE CITY SIMILE WAS ONLY RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC FRIDAY NIGHT AND WE REQUESTED MORE TIME AND WAS NOT GIVEN MORE TIME AND I MYSELF HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO GO THROUGH EVERYTHING BETWEEN FRIDAY EVENING AND THOU LET ALONE TO PREPARE WRITTEN RESPONSES AND SO I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THE CITY IS GIVING A FAIR OPPORTUNITY TO THE COMMUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS.
IN THAT REGARD, I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I HAVE NOT SPOKEN PERSONALLY TO ONE NEIGHBOR AND THERE ARE SEVERAL LISTED IN OUR LETTERS AND I'M NOT SPOKEN TO ONE NEIGHBORS, CERTAINLY NONE THAT ARE CONTINUOUS TO THIS PROPERTY OR THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT ARE IN FAVOR OF IT.
I ALSO THINK THAT THE TIMING OF THIS LAST RELEASE VIOLATES THE SQL REGULATIONS REGARDING THE TIME THAT THE CITY HAS TO LOOK AT THOSE.
WITH THAT SAID I WANT TO PROVIDE HISTORY AND NO DISRESPECT TO ANYBODY ON THE COUNCIL BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'RE ALL RELATIVELY NEW BUT THE WAY THIS PROJECT STARTED OUT WAS IT WAS ADOPTED OR BROUGHT INTO THE CITY OF INDIO.
THEY PROMISED THE CITY OF INDIO AT THAT TIME TO MAINTAIN THE CHARACTER OF THE AREA WHICH WAS ALL FARMS AND RANCHES AND, IN FACT, SUBSEQUENTLY THE CITY SAID WELL, WHAT WE WILL DO IS USE THE AREA BETWEEN 48 AND 49 AS A TRANSITION BETWEEN THAT AND THE DESERT HE STATES BUT WE WILL NEVER TOUCH THE DESERT HE STATES AND THEY WILL REMAIN IN THEIR STATE AGRICULTURAL FORMAT.
LO AND BEHOLD THAT TRANSITION BECAME A WHOLESALE URBAN DEVELOPMENT AND THERE WAS NO TRANSITION.
THEN DESERT ESTATE SAID WE WILL BE THE TRANSITION BUT THEY STARTED MOVING IT RIGHT INTO DESERT HE STATES AND WHAT WE HAVE NOW IS IRONICALLY NAMED TRANSITION BUT IT IS A WHOLESALE REPUDIATION OF THE DESERT HE STATES.
WHEN YOU TAKE THE TRANSITION, AND BY THE WAY, YOU CAN USE WHATEVER NAME YOU WANT THE THREE UNITS PER ACRE IS NOT LOW-DENSITY.
THEY WANT TO TAKE AND CREATE THEIR OWN ZONING AND PUT IT RIGHT IN THE HEART OF THE
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DESERT HE STATES SO ACTUALLY THE NAME OF THIS TRANSITION SHOULD BE THE DEATH OF THE COUNTRY STATES.THIS IS REALLY THE ONLY AREA LEFT THAT IS TRUE AGRICULTURAL LAND IN THE DESERT A STATES AND NOT DEVELOP RIGHT NOW WITH HOUSING AND IT IS CURRENTLY SET FOR APPROXIMATELY 33 HOMES BASED ON EXISTING ZONING AND THE DEVELOPER WANTS TO TRIPLE THAT BASICALLY AND I THINK THAT IT IS OBVIOUSLY A BLATANT DISREGARD FOR THE COUNTRY ESTATES.
>> MR. MORRIS, YOUR TIME IS UP.
>> COULD I USE MY CLIENTS TIME AND MR. SAM KYLES TIME FOR BOTH LISTENING?
>> I WOULD ADVISE OUR OR ACTUALLY, ZACH SPIRIT CHAIR, MR. ORRIS HAS THREE MINUTES BUT YOU AS CHAIR HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO ALLOW HIM ADDITIONAL TIME SHOULD YOU SEE FIT IN YOUR DISCRETION AS CHAIR.
SO WHAT WE HAVE IS TRANSITION NOW WHOLESALE MOVED ACROSS 49 INTO THE AREA THAT THE TRANSITION IS SUPPOSED TO PROTECT SO NOW THERE IS NO LONGER ANY PROTECTION.
WHAT WE HAVE IS URBAN SETTING, URBAN HOUSING AND WE SEE A ROOFTOP RIGHT IN THE CENTER OF ESTATES PROPERTIES WHICH A LOT OUR FAMILY FARMS. I NOTICED THAT THE PROPONENT AND THE CITY DID NOT GO INTO DETAIL ABOUT THE FACT THAT ALL ALONG THE EAST SIDE OF THIS PROPERTY IN THE SOUTH SIDE OF THIS PROPERTY INCLUDING THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY YOU HAVE 5-ACRE PIECES, 4-ACRE PIECES, 7-ACRE PIECE AND ALONG THE NORTH YOU HAVE 1 ACRE PIECES AND THEY FOCUSED ONLY ON WHAT WAS A HALF ACRE PIECE IN THE DESERT ESTATES AREA.
I WANT TO REMIND THE CITY ABOUT SOMETHING THAT THE CITY CAME UP WITH.
THIS WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED AS A NEGATIVE DECLARATION WHICH IS NOT SURPRISING FOR THE DEVELOPER TO TRY TO DO.
WHEN THE CITY INITIALLY LOOKED AT THIS THE CITY AND I AM QUOTING FROM THE CITY'S RESPONSE TO THE NEGATIVE DECLARATION SAID THE DEVELOPER HAS TO HAVE A COMPELLING REASON FOR CHANGING THE GENERAL PLAN AND THEN THE CITY ITSELF AND ITS OBJECTIVE REVIEW SAID THERE IS NO COMPELLING REASON TO CHANGE THE GENERAL PLAN.
DURING THE HEARING ON THE NEGATIVE DECLARATION IN THE PRIOR ATTEMPT, I POINTEDLY ASKED THE DEVELOPER WHAT IS THE COMPELLING REASON FOR CHANGING THESE 45 ACRES FROM LOW-DENSITY ESTATE PROPERTIES TO URBAN HOUSING? THERE WAS NO RESPONSE AND THERE IS NO RESPONSE IN THE EXISTING EIR AND THERE IS NO RESPONSE IN THE CITY SUMMARY.
WE HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES POINTEDLY WHAT HAS CHANGED? DID THE GENERAL PLAN CHANGE IN THE MEANTIME? NO.
DID THE CITY DID AN EXTENSIVE HOUSING ANALYSIS AND THE GENERAL PLAN WHICH IS, I THINK, LESS THAN TWO YEARS OLD OR MAYBE JUST TWO YEARS OLD AND DID THE HOUSING STOCK IN THE CITY CHANGE? NO.
BY THE WAY, IT IS IRONIC THAT THE CITY AND OR THE DEVELOPER WOULD -- >> I'M SORRY, MR. MORRIS YOU ARE MUTED.
WHAT THE CITY DID WAS DID AN EXTENSIVE EXPENSIVE ANALYSIS OF THE HOUSING STOCK AND IT DECIDED THAT TO PRESERVE THE DIVERSITY OF HOUSING IN THE CITY THE CITY WOULD LEAVE THIS AREA SPECIFICALLY COUNTRY ESTATES SO THERE WOULD BE SOMEWHERE IN THE CITY THAT WAS DIFFERENT THAN EVERYWHERE ELSE AND WHAT THE DEVELOPER PROPOSED IN THIS CASE IS TO MAKE THIS JUST LIKE EVERYWHERE ELSE AND SEPARATE AND DIVIDE UP ALL THE ESTATE PROPERTIES AND THE LARGER PROPERTIES IN THE AREA OR FORCE THEM TO DEVELOP INTO SMALLER SIZES.
WE HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES HAS THE ZONING CHANGED IN THE INTERIM? THE ANSWER IS NO.
HAS THE SCIENCE CHANGED IN THE INTERIM? NO.
NOT SIGNIFICANTLY, EXCEPT THAT THERE IS A DECIDED LEGAL TREND AGAINST
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SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND THAT TYPE OF HOSPITALITY HOUSING.SO, LET'S ASK OURSELVES WHAT HAS CHANGED.
MAY BE THE CITY PLANNERS CHANGED AND MAY BE THERE HAS BEEN SOME OTHER CHANGES IN THE CITY THAT I ALL THE CHANGES WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AND THOSE ARE POLITICAL, THOSE ARE NOT RELATED TO THE DEVELOPMENT AND THEY ARE NOT REASONS FOR CHANGING AND EXPENSIVE GENERAL PLAN AND ZONING THAT EXISTS FOR THIS AREA.
LET'S TALK ABOUT THE DEVELOPER FOR JUST A MINUTE.
DOES HE CARE ABOUT MAKING THE ENVIRONMENT BETTER HERE? NO.
IN FACT, ALL THE NEIGHBORS THINK THIS IS DECIDEDLY AGAINST THE ENVIRONMENT.
IN THAT REGARD, WHAT I SEE IN THE PAPERS THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED BY THE CITY IS A BIASED RESPONSE BY THE DEVELOPERS PLANNERS.
I DON'T SEE AND I HAVE ASKED OTHERS TO LOOK AT IT AND OBJECTIVE ANALYSIS, GOOD-FAITH REASONED ANALYSIS, PROVIDED BY THE CITY OR THE DEVELOPER IN RESPONSE TO THE COMMENTS.
IT SOUNDS LIKE MORE ARGUMENTS HAVE BEEN PRESENTED TO WHAT HAD BEEN LEGITIMATE CONCERNS RAISED ABOUT SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS.
WHAT IS THE REASON FOR THE DEVELOPER DOING THIS? NOT TO BETTER THE ENVIRONMENT, THE DEVELOPER HAS NO INTENTION OF FOLLOWING THE EXISTING ZONING OBVIOUSLY AND THE DEVELOPER HAS NO INTENTION OF FOLLOWING THE GENERAL PLAN AND OBVIOUSLY HE IS ASKING FOR A CHANGE IN THOSE THINGS.
WHAT THE DIFFERENCE HERE IS IS THAT THE DEVELOPER BELIEVES THAT HE CAN MAKE OR THAT THE DEVELOPER COMPANY CAN MAKE MORE MONEY BY BUILDING MORE HOUSES.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS NECESSARILY THE CASE AND THERE IS NO PAPERWORK ON THAT AND THE BUT THAT IS TYPICALLY WHAT DRIVES DEVELOPERS AND I AM NOT SAYING THEY ARE WRONG FOR THAT BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT IS WRONG FOR THIS CITY.
I WANT TO TELL A CITY NOT TO BE DISTRACTED BY A LOT OF WORDS ABOUT DG OR GATES OR PRETTY PICTURES BECAUSE THOSE ARE JUST WORDS AND THEY DON'T GET TO THE HEART OF WHAT IS GOING ON HERE.
>> MR. MORRIS, YOUR TIME IS UP, SIR.
>> LET ME MAKE ONE MORE STATEMENT AND THEN I WILL CLOSE.
IN THE CITIES VENTANA PROJECT KEY ISSUE SUMMARY ON PAGE 21 THE CITY SAYS IN THE FIRST PARAGRAPH THE PROPOSED LOCATION OF THE PROJECT IS IN ACCORD WITH THE OBJECTIVES AND PURPOSE OF THE GENERAL PLAN AS PROPOSED TO THE AMENDED, LAND-USE DESIGNATION OF TRANSITIONAL NEIGHBORED UP TO THREE DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE AND THE VENTANA SPECIFIC PLAN.
WHAT IS SHOCKING ABOUT THIS ADMISSION IN THE CITY'S SUMMARY IS THAT IT IS SAYING THAT THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO DEVELOP EXACTLY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE DEVELOPER WANTS WITH WHAT THE DEVELOPER HAS PROPOSED AND I DON'T SEE ANYWHERE IN HERE WHERE IT SAYS GUESS WHAT, THIS IS FLATLY CONTRARY TO THE GENERAL PLAN AND THERE IS NO COMPELLING REASON FOR IT AND IT IS FLATLY CONTRARY TO ZONING AND FLATLY CONTRARY TO THE AREA.
>> I APPRECIATE THE CITY'S TIME.
>> WE DO NOT HAVE ANY OTHER FURTHER COMMENTS.
>> CHAIR, IF I MIGHT SUGGEST AND YOU'RE GOING BUT THE APPLICANT RESERVED SOME REBUTTAL TIME.
>> I WAS JUST GOING TO MENTION THAT, SIR.
MR. GONZALES YOU HAVE TIME TO REPLY.
WELL, I THINK JUST FROM THE HIGH LEVEL WE ARE TRYING TO MEET A DEMAND OF THE HOUSING SHORTAGE RIGHT NOW AND, YOU KNOW, OUR EXPERIENCE AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP THAT IS ON THE SCREEN RIGHT THERE YOU HAVE MAY BE SEVEN PROPERTIES THAT ARE LARGER PROPERTIES AND THOSE PROPERTIES, TWO OF THEM ARE FOR SALE.
YOU KNOW, THE PROPERTIES THE DO HAVE LARGER PROPERTIES HAVE MAYBE ONE HOUSE AND YOU SEE NOTHING BUT VACANT LAND BUT THERE IS NO FARMING GOING ON OUT THERE BUT I
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THINK TO KEEP THINGS ON A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD LOOK AT A PIECE OF PROPERTY LIKE ANY OTHER DEVELOPER AND WE DO OR WE SPEAK WITH PEOPLE WHO RUN THE CITY AND WE LOOK AT WHERE THERE IS DEMAND AND RIGHT NOW THERE IS DEMAND FOR HOUSING AND FOR RESPONSIBLE HOUSING AND WE ARE CONSISTENT WITH ALL THE LITTLE SQUARES TO THE LEFT AND AROUND US AND MAYBE NOT IMMEDIATELY BUT I THINK WE ADDRESS THOSE WITH THE PROPER SETBACKS, LARGER LOTS AND WE CREATED A BUFFER BETWEEN THE PROPERTIES AND SO I THINK THAT IS THE REASON WHY WE ARE MEETING THE HOUSING CRISIS THAT WE ARE ALL EXPRESSING RIGHT NOW AND THE CITY OF INDIO HAS DONE A GREAT JOB OF KEEPING THE LIGHTS ON AND NOT HAVING A LOT OF PROBLEMS THAT THE OTHER CITIES THROUGHOUT THE COACHELLA VALLEY HAS HAD IN THE PAST AND WE AL WENT THROUGH A MAJOR PANDEMIC BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, I THINK CHANGE, CHANGE HAPPENS AND I UNDERSTAND SOME PEOPLE SOMETIMES DON'T AGREE WITH THAT BUT I THINK WE ARE RESPONSIBLY MEETING A DEMAND FOR HOUSING SO THANK YOU.I DON'T KNOW IF ONE OF MY PARTNERS, BRET, WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK OR SOMETHING BUT HE IS ALSO ON THE LINE IF HE HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.
THANK YOU FOR THE TIME FOR IT I DON'T HAVE REALLY ANYTHING MATERIAL TO ADD PARADIGM ON THE TECHNOLOGY FOR THE PUBLIC SPEAKING FOR THIS TIME AND APPRECIATE YOUR TIME ON THIS PROJECT.
ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS TO THE APPLICANT BEFORE I CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING?
>> NO, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME AND FOR KEEPING THE LIGHTS ON IN THE CITY.
I'VE BEEN DOING THE STUFF HERE IN THE VALLEY FOR ABOUT 40 YEARS AND I THINK WE HAVE AND HAVE DONE SOME GREAT WORK AND WE WILL ONLY DO GOOD WORK AND I THINK THAT THIS PROJECT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE AND WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO BRINGING IT TO THE CITY AND WE JUST HOPE THAT WE EARNED YOUR SUPPORT.
OKAY, AT THIS TIME WE WILL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND COMMISSIONERS WOULD LIKE TO GO FIRST?
I HAVE A COMMENT BUT IS ACTUALLY OR I HAVE A QUESTION PRIOR TO THAT.
THE GENTLEMAN THAT CALLED WAS ALLUDING TO THERE BEING SOME FORM OF AGREEMENT FROM THE CITY THROUGH THE ANNEXATION OF THIS AREA.
WAS I HEARING THAT CORRECTLY? IS THAT ACCURATE? NO?
WAS I -- >> COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ-CEJA ARE YOU ASKING THAT FROM THE STAFF
OR FROM -- >> I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY, STAFF.
IS IT OKAY IF I ASK A QUESTION TO STAFF BECAUSE IT JUST SEEMED TO ME THAT THE PERSON THAT WAS CALLING AND WAS TALKING ABOUT SOME FORM OF AGREEMENT THAT WAS SET FORWARD TO THE COMMUNITY FROM THE CITIES AND IN FACT THE QUESTION ABOUT THE TRANSITION ABOUT PLANNING IN OUR PLANNING TEAM SO I JUST WANT TO BETTER UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WAS ANY SORT OF AGREEMENT OUTSIDE OF WHAT IS CURRENTLY IN THE GENERAL PLAN THAT WAS SET FORWARD.
>> STAFF IS NOT AWARE OF SUCH AN AGREEMENT SIGNED SO I AM ASSUMING HE MAY REFER TO AT THE TIME OF ANNEXATION TO SOME THINGS HE MAY HAVE HEARD FROM THE CITY AT THE TIME BUT THERE IS NO SIGNED AGREEMENT THAT THE CITY HAS OBLIGATION TO KEEP THIS AREA AS IS.
>> IF I COULD ADD THIS IS DIRECTOR STEINER.
THE GENERAL PLANNING PROCESS WAS A FIVE YEAR PLANNING EFFORT AND THERE WAS A LOT OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND THERE MAY HAVE BEEN COMMUNITY EXPECTATIONS DISCUSSED DURING THAT GENERAL PLAN WAS ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL IN SEPTEMBER 2019 AND ENTIRE CITY INCLUDING THIS PARTICULAR AREA HOWEVER, THAT DOES NOT PROHIBIT A PARTY SUCH AS THE APPLICANT FOR THIS PROJECT FROM ASKING FOR ASKING THE CITY SPECIFICALLY STARTING WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION GOING TO CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERATION OF AN ALTERNATIVE CONSIDERATION.
SO, AS [INAUDIBLE] WE ARE NOT AWARE OF ANY WRITTEN AGREEMENTS AND OBVIOUSLY THERE WERE EXPECTATIONS THAT MAY HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED IN THE COMMUNITY VISION WAS ESTABLISHED DURING THE GENERAL PLAN BUT IT IS WITHIN THE RIGHTS OF THE APPLICANT TO ASK THE PLANNING COMMISSION CITY COUNCIL TO RECONSIDER THAT.
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CHAIR, IF I COULD GO AHEAD AND MAKE MY COMMENTS.
YOU KNOW, I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO MR. GONZALES YESTERDAY AND LIKE I MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION AND SOME OF THE QUESTIONS OR REALLY THE ONLY QUESTION I POSED IS WHY HERE, WHY NOW AND WHAT IS THE VISION AND YOU KNOW, I WAS SURPRISED OR NOT SURPRISED BUT I THINK TO THE COMMENT ANSWERING THE CALL TO HOUSING CRISIS, I'M NOT NECESSARILY SURE THAT HIGHER DENSITY WITH HOMES THAT MR. ONZALES SHARED WITH ME THE PRICE RANGES CLOSE TO $1 MILLION FOR THE GATED COMMUNITY ON THE UPPER $600,000 FOR THE NON- GATED COMMUNITY, I'M NOT SURE THAT THE RESPONSE TO OUR HOUSING CRISIS IN THE CITY IS NECESSARILY MORE OF THOSE TYPES OF HOUSES.
IT IS MY FIRST COMMENT IN REGARDS TO THAT PARTICULAR COMMENT BY THE APPLICANTS.
I AM ALL FOR IT AND I MADE IT CLEAR THAT I'M ALL FOR DIVERSIFIED THE TYPES OF HOUSING WE ARE CREATING AND I THINK THAT PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING FORWARD WITH DIVERSIFYING THE TOPS OF HOUSING THAT THEY ARE PUTTING FORWARD IS A GOOD THING BUT I AM NOT JUST SURE THAT THIS PROJECT CAPTURES THE INTENT OF WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO WHICH IS SOLVE A MUCH HIGHER ISSUE FOR THOSE THAT ARE 30% THAT ARE IN OUR CITY AND THOSE THAT CANNOT AFFORD TO EVEN TAKE OUT A LOAN FOR THOSE TYPES OF LEVEL OF HOUSES.
I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE GATED COMMUNITY, THAT BEAUTIFUL LARGE PUBLIC AREA THAT IS ONLY GOING TO BE ACCESSIBLE TO VERY FEW.
I THINK IT IS CONTRARY TO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AND WHAT THE GENERAL PLAN ACTUALLY OUTLINED FOR WHICH WE ARE TRYING TO CONNECT COMMUNITIES AND CREATE MORE OF THESE OPEN COURT DOORS AND I NOTE THAT WE HAD SAID IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS THAT GATED COMMUNITIES, ALTHOUGH NOT SPECIFICALLY, YOU KNOW WE DON'T HAVE TO NOT ALLOW THEM BUT IT IS A VERY STRONG RECOMMENDATION AND SO I THINK THAT JUST AS THE PROJECT STANDS IS WHAT BEING PRESENTED AND TO BE COMPLETELY HONEST IT IS MY FEELING THAT IN THE AMENDMENT TO THE GENERAL PLAN WITH THIS PARTICULAR AREA AND ESPECIALLY AFTER HEARING THE CONCERNS FROM SOME OF THE RESIDENTS IS A BIT OF AN UNDERMINING TO ALL THE WORK THAT WENT INTO WORK THAT THE COMMISSIONERS AND THAT THE COUNCIL AND THAT THE CITY STAFF AND SPECIFICALLY THE COMMUNITY AND ALL THAT WORK WENT INTO CREATING THIS, THE GENERAL PLAN, AND JUST LASTLY, YOU KNOW, I SPENT A LOT OF TIME REALLY GOING BACK AND FORTH BECAUSE TO ME I WANT TO BE OPEN TO DIVERSIFIED THE TYPES OF HOUSING THAT ARE AVAILABLE HERE BUT I REALLY THINK THAT THIS TIME THIS PROJECT IS NOT PERFECT.
I KIND OF HATE TO DISAGREE WITH COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ-CEJA A LITTLE BIT BUT I DO UNDERSTAND THAT WE NEED TO WE DO NEED MORE HOUSING.
AND WE DO NEED TO DIVERSIFY OUR HOUSING STOCK.
BUT THIS PART OF INDIO WE ARE NEVER GOING TO HAVE HIGH DENSITY BUILDING.
YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE ARE HAVING TROUBLE TRYING TO PUT THREE UNITS OR 2.3 UNITS TO AN ACRE AND WE ARE NEVER GOING TO GET, YOU KNOW, HIGH DENSITY AND THERE ARE OTHER AREAS TO DO THAT.
BUT WE STILL DO HAVE A HOUSING SHORTAGE AND YES, MOST PEOPLE CAN AFFORD 600,000-DOLLAR HOMES BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT CAN AND THEY ALSO DESERVE TO HAVE CHOICES WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY AND I DON'T SEE HOW THIS DENYING OR NOT HAVING THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO HELP OUR OTHER NEEDS THAT WE HAVE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
I FULLY UNDERSTAND THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN ONE-5-ACRE PARCELS THEY LIVE IN A VERY DIFFERENT WORLD THAN MOST OF US WILL EVER LIVE AND IT'S A PRIVILEGE AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT'S PHENOMENAL THAT THEY CAN DO THAT AND HAVE PROBABLY BEEN THERE A LONG TIME AND YEARS AGO I DEFINITELY WOULD HAVE AGREED TO LEAVE IT AS IS BUT BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE WORLD HAS CHANGED, I STILL THINK THAT INSTEAD OF HAVING 1 ACRE LOTS OR 3-ACRE LOTS ARE 5-ACRE LOTS THE ONE TO 2.3 ACRES IS BETTER AND WOULD HELP WITH A HOUSING SHORTAGE THAT WE HAVE.
IT WON'T HELP EVERYONE AND WE DO DEFINITELY NEED TO LOOK FOR SOME OF THOSE OTHER
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TYPES OF HOUSING FOR ENTRY-LEVEL AND, YOU KNOW, DUPLEXES KIND OF LIKE WE SAW BEFORE FOR THOSE PROJECTS ARE I DON'T SEE THEM EVER TAKING PLACE ON AVENUE 50 SO WE CAN EITHER, TO ME, LOOK AT SOMETHING THAT IS COMPARABLE TO DESERT ESTATES WHICH IS CLOSE BY AND TO SOME OF THE PROJECTS IN THE AREA THAT WILL AT LEAST GIVE US MORE HOUSING, YOU KNOW, OPTIONS VERSUS LEAVING IT AS IS SO THAT IS WHERE I AM THINKING.I THINK THAT THE QUALITY OF THE BUILD LOOKS PHENOMENAL AND I THINK IT'S A NICE ADDITION AND COMPLEMENTARY AND NOT PERFECT AND IN A PERFECT WORLD I GUESS AND FORGET ALL AFFORD 1 ACRE, 3-ACRE OR 5-ACRE LOT THAT WOULD BE GREAT AND I PROBABLY WOULD NOT WANT ONE BECAUSE THAT'S A LOT OF WORK TO MAINTAIN THOSE PROPERTIES BUT AT THE SAME TIME I THINK THIS MIGHT BE VERY COMPARABLE TO WHAT WE SEE HAPPENING IN THE COMMUNITY BUT I AM DEFINITELY OPEN TO HEARING WHAT THE REST OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE TO SAY AND SEEING WHERE WE GO FROM HERE.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO MOSTLY ECHO COMMISSIONER FRANZ AND SAYING THAT ALTHOUGH IT IS NOT ONE OR THREE OR FIVE ACRE LOTS I THINK THEY ARE MAKING A GOOD CONCESSION OF PUTTING IN THE LARGER LOTS ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF THE DEVELOPMENT IN CLOSER PROXIMITY TO THE DESERT RIVER E STATES AND SOME OF THE OTHER NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES TO HAVE MAY NOT MEET OUR MOST PRESSING NEED FOR HIGHER DENSITY HOUSING BUT I AGREE THAT THIS AREA WOULD NEVER BE A GOOD FIT REALLY FOR, YOU KNOW, A MUCH HIGHER DENSITY THAN THE 2.3 ACRES BEING PROPOSED.
>> LOOKING AT THE PROJECT I FEEL THAT THIS PROJECT FITS PERFECT FOR THE AREA IN THE AREA THAT IT IS LOCATED IN WITH THE HOMES THAT FOR THE COMMUNITIES THAT SURROUND IT.
AS FAR AS HOUSING SHORTAGE GOES I MEAN WE NEED HOUSING IN ALL PRICE LEVELS SO MAYBE NOT EVERYONE CAN AFFORD SOMETHING IN THAT PRICE RANGE BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT RESIDENTS THAT DO LIVE IN THE DESERT THAT ARE LOOKING FOR A HOME TO UPGRADE IN AND THEY ARE NOT SELLING THEIR HOMES BECAUSE THERE IS NOT ANY OR THERE ARE NO HOMES FOR THEM TO PURCHASE.
THIS WOULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO GET THOSE PEOPLE TO SELL THEIR HOMES AND UPGRADE 2A LARGER HOME.
AND THEN THAT WOULD PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SALES IN A LOWER PRICE RANGE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT ABLE TO BUY IN THIS PRICE RANGE THAT THIS PRICE RANGE WILL BE TAKING PLACE IN.
I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE IT IS A GOOD FIT AND IT WOULD HELP WITH THE SHORTAGE SO I'M IN FAVOR OF IT.
>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER VALDES.
AGAIN, I WILL JUST ECHO COMMISSIONER FRANZ SENTIMENTS AS WELL AS VICE CHAIR AND COMMISSIONER VALDES, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PRODUCT THAT IS COMING INTO THAT AREA OF INDIO AND I PROJECT AND I GUESS AT THIS TIME IF SOMEONE WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN TO MAKE THE MOTION.
>> CHAIR, COULD I ACTUALLY ADD ONE MORE COMMENT BEFORE WE MOVE TO MOTION FOR CONSIDERATION.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE JUST WENT THROUGH THIS REALLY INTERESTING PROCESS BACK IN APRIL WHERE, YOU KNOW, I PUT EVERYONE ON A GRIDLOCK WHERE I COULDN'T DECIDE ON WHICH WAY TO GO OVER A SPECIFIC PROJECT AND I REMEMBER THAT PART OF THE REASON WHY IT WAS NOT PUT FORWARD TO THE COUNCIL AS A RECOMMENDATION BY THE COMMISSION WAS BECAUSE WE WANTED TO KEEP THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE COMMUNITY OF WHICH THE PROJECT WAS COMING AND, YOU KNOW, I AM NOT, I DON'T LIVE IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA OF TOWN AND I CANNOT AFFORD THOSE TYPES OF HOMES BUT I AGREED THAT THE COMMUNITY THAT CURRENTLY LIVES THERE HAS THE RIGHT TO SPEAK UP AND SAY WE WANT TO PRESERVE THE CHARACTERISTIC OF OUR COMMUNITY AND I REMEMBER AFTER A LITTLE BIT OF TUGGING I SAID OKAY, WE ARE NOT REALLY TO GET ANYWHERE BUT I REMEMBER THAT IS WHAT THAT WAS THE MOST PREVAILING COMMENT FOR THIS PARTICULAR COMMUNITY AND I AGREE THAT -- I AGREE THAT THE DENSITY, HIGHER DENSITY PROJECTS ARE PROBABLY NEVER GOING TO COME
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TO THE AREA BUT I THINK THAT IS THE POINT.I THINK THAT IS WHAT THE GENERAL PLAN IS OUTLINING BECAUSE THIS PARTICULAR AREA IS THE DESIGNATION SUPPOSED TO BE, YOU KNOW, LEAD ALONE AND THEY DON'T HAVE THE TECHNICAL WORDS OF SOMEONE COULD HELP ME WITH WAY WE DIVIDED THE MAPS ON WHERE DEVELOPING HAPPENS AND WHERE W SPECIFIC SO THIS IS AN AREA THAT IS OUTLINING THAT MATTER OF AREA AND THEN I THINK, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER COMMENT THAT WAS SAID ABOUT EVERYONE HAS -- YES, I AGREE EVERYONE WHO CAN AFFORD THESE TYPES OF HOMES WITH THESE HIGHER PRICE RANGES THEN YES, EXACTLY.
WHAT IS OUR PRESERVED MINOR CHANGE, YES, THAT WAS THE DESIGNATION.
I THINK THAT IS THE POINT WAS TO MAINTAIN IT IN THIS MANNER AND THEN LASTLY, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERING THAT THIS IS PEOPLE WHO COULD PROBABLY AFFORD THESE TYPES OF HOMES MIGHT HAVE A DIFFERENT HOME SOMEWHERE ELSE BUT I HAVE A REALLY SERIOUS CONCERN AND THIS IS PARTICULARLY FOR THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL WHICH IS A CONVERSATION THAT I THINK IS STILL YET TO BE HAD AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL AND A LOT OF THESE HOMES ARE BEING PURCHASED BY PEOPLE WHO DO NOT NECESSARILY LIVE HERE FOR USE FOR A VERY LIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME.
AS YOU ARE ALL CONSIDERING HOW YOU WILL VOTE I WOULD LIKE TO EXHORT EVERYONE TO REALLY THINK ABOUT IF YOU'VE HEARD THE COMMUNITY OF THOSE WHO LIVE HERE FROM THE GENERAL REVIEW PLAN PROCESS AND SO THAT IS JUST MY COMMENT, THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ-CEJA.
DOES ANYONE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION?
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ, MAY I DIRECT SOMETHING REGARDING TONIGHT'S RESOLUTION NUMBERS? IT LOOKS LIKE THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE NUMBERS AND THE STAFF REPORTED NUMBERS ON THE AGENDA.
I'VE BASICALLY SET THE NUMBERS WAS PRESENTED IN THE AGENDA.
THESE ARE THE NUMBERS THAT WAS PRESENTED IN THE AGENDA.
THAT IS BASICALLY FOR CLARIFICATION.
>> MADAM CHAIR, MAY I ASK A QUESTION REAL QUICK?
>> LEILA, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY SO THE NUMBERS WE SEE ON THE SCREEN ARE THE CORRECT NUMBERS SPIRIT CORRECT.
THE NUMBERS YOU ARE SEEN ON THE SCREEN, NOT THE STREET, SCREEN ARE THE CORRECT NUMBERS.
MADAM CHAIR, IF YOU ARE OKAY WITH THAT I WOULD BE READY TO MAKE A MOTION.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 1955, RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION CITY OF INDIO CALIFORNIA RECOMMENDING THAT CITY COUNCIL TO CERTIFY THE FINAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT PREPARED FOR THE VENTANA PROJECT CONSISTING OF A GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT SPECIFIC PLAN ADOPTION TENTATIVE MAP APPROVAL AND DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL PROPOSING THE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT CONSISTING OF 103 RESIDENTIAL UNITS, A DOG PARK, PEDESTRIAN TRAILS, AND OPEN-SPACE COMMON AREAS ON A 45.17 ACRES VACANT PROJECT SITE, PURSUANT TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT TO EVALUATE THE POTENTIAL OF OUR MENTAL IMPACTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE CONSTRUCTION AND OPERATION OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT AND ADOPTING ENVIRONMENTAL FINDINGS PURSUANT TO THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENT OF QUALITY ACT AND A MITIGATED MONITORING AND REPORTING PROGRAM.
I THINK I WILL JUST DO THEM ONE AT A TIME.
>> VICE CHAIR, IF WE COULD PLEASE HAVE ROLL CALL.
>> COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ-CEJA.
>> OKAY, I WILL MOVE ONTO THE NEXT RESOLUTION.
SO I MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 9052, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING
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COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF INDIO, CAL FOR NOT RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT 20 -- 05 -- 120 GPA 20 -- 05 -- 1202 ADD A NEW LAND USE DESIGNATION, TRANSITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD TN, WITH A DENSITY OF ZERO-THREE DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE AND A CONCURRENT LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT DESIGNATING THE 45.17 ACRES VACANT PROJECT SITE WITH THIS NEW LAND USE DESIGNATION, WHERE THE PROJECT SITS GENERALLY LOCATED NORTH OF AVENUE 50 BETWEEN JEFFERSON STREET AND MADISON STREET IN THE CITY OF INDIO, RIVERSIDE COUNTY, CALIFORNIA ASSESSORS PARCEL NUMBERS ABMS: 602 -- 070 -- 004 -- ONE, 602 -- 080 -- 001 -- NINE, AND 602 -- 080 -- 002 -- ZERO.>> I WILL GO AHEAD AND SECOND THE MOTION.
I WILL INVITE HIM AS A PANELIST.
>> COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ-CEJA.
MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 9053, A REALIZATION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF INDIO, CAL FOR NOT RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE VENTANA SPECIFIC PLAN 20 -- 05 -- 39 TO ESTABLISH ZONING REGULATIONS, DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, AND DESIGN STANDARDS FOR A 45.17 ACRES VACANT PROPERTY, GENERALLY LOCATED NORTH OF AVENUE 50 BETWEEN JEFFERSON STREET AND MADISON STREET IN THE CITY OF INDIO, RIVERSIDE COUNTY, CALIFORNIA WITH THE ASSESSORS PARCEL NUMBERS 602-070-004-ONE, 602-080-001-NINE, AND 602-080-002-ZERO.
>> COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ-CEJA.
> ADOPTED WITH THE REVISED CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL WHICH INCLUDES CONDITIONS 27, 35, 63 AND 65.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE?
WE WILL ADOPT RECOMMENDATION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 1954, RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF INDIO, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE OF TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NUMBER 37884, TTM 20-05-479, TO SUBDIVIDE A 45.17-ACRE PROJECT AREA INTO 103 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS AS WELL AS LETTERED LOTS FOR STREETS, COMMON AREAS AND SIMILAR ANCILLARY USES, RESULTING IN AN OVERALL DENSITY OF 2.3 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE IT CONTINGENT UPON CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT 20 -- 05 -- 120, AND SPECIFIC PLAN 20 -- 05 -- 39 AND SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL THEREIN AND, THE ADDITION OR REVISION OF CONDITION 2735, 63 AND 65.
>> COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ-CEJA.
>> THAT IS IT, THANK YOU MR. ONZALEZ.
>> I BELIEVE THERE WAS ONE MORE.
[LAUGHTER] >> CAN WE PUT THAT BACK UP, LAILA PLEASE?
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>> SO I THINK THIS IS THE LAST ONE.
WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 9056 A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF INDIO, CAL FOR NOT APPROVING DESIGN REVIEW 20 -- 05 -- 473 FOR THE VENTANA PROJECT, CONTINGENT UPON CITY COUNCIL CERTIFICATION OF THE VENTANA PROJECT EIR AND APPROVAL OF THE GENERAL PLAN MM IN 20 -- 05 -- 120 AND SPECIFIC PLAN 20 -- 05 -- 39 AND TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NUMBER 37884 AND SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL THERE IN.
>> COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ-CEJA.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COMMISSION.
I APPRECIATE YOUR HELP, THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU, CONGRATULATIONS.
>> THANK YOU, HAVE A GREAT EVENING.
>> GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS.
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FOR THE RECORD, KEVIN STEINER DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PEERED AS ALWAYS, I WILL TAKE THE LEAD OFF AND THEN TURN IT OVER TO THE PLANNER.COUPLE THINGS TO REPORT ON PAID FIRST, I WANT TO REPORT TO THE COMMISSION AT YOUR APRIL MEETING THE COMMISSION CONSIDERED OR APRIL 28 COMMISSION CONSIDERED THE CHURCH OF THE RED DOOR AND THAT PROJECT WAS FORWARDED TO CITY COUNCIL AND IT WAS CONSIDERED BY CITY COUNCIL ON JUNE 16 TO THE SPECIFIC PLAN COMMITMENT ASSOCIATED WITH OTHER APPROVALS AND THE CITY COUNCIL VOTED TO APPROVE THE SPECIFIC AMENDMENT HOWEVER THEY DID NOT VOTE TO ALLOW ACCESS TO 49 EXCEPT FOR FIRE EMERGENCY ACCESS.
SO I JUST WANT TO REPORT TO YOU BACK ON THAT.
THE OTHER THING TO REPORT ON AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE WHO RESPONDED BACK TO OUR INQUIRIES ABOUT YOUR INTEREST AND WILLINGNESS TO BEGIN THE TRANSITION BACK TO IN PERSON MEETINGS.
WE ARE CURRENTLY PLANNING TO BEGIN IN PERSON MEETINGS AT THE JULY 14 COMMISSION MEETING.
THERE IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY AS INDICATED IN THE E-MAIL THAT WE SENT TO YOU THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30, WITHOUT NEED TO ANNOUNCE LOCATION OR PROVIDE PUBLIC ACCESS HOWEVER, PER THE GOVERNOR'S ORDERS WE, RECENT ORDERS, THAT OPPORTUNITY TO NOT TO THOSE THINGS WILL EXPIRE SEPTEMBER 30 SO IF YOU HAVE A NEED FOR ANY REASON TO CONTINUE AFTER SEPTEMBER 30 YOU WILL NEED TO ANNOUNCE YOUR LOCATION AND PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE.
WE LOGISTICALLY BASED ON THE CURRENT STATE OF ORDERS WE WILL BE OPENING THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS BACKUP AND WE WILL NOT HAVE ANY, WE WILL NOT HAVE ANY SOCIAL DISTANCING REQUIRED AND WE WILL NOT BE ASKING FOLKS TO WEAR MASKS WHERE WEARING A MASK IS VOLUNTARY HOWEVER, WE WILL BE POSTING A SIGN OF THE DOOR AND THIS IS FOR ALL OUR MEETINGS WHERE WE WILL ASK INDIVIDUALS TO VOLUNTARY IF THEY'RE NOT FEELING WELL FOR ANY REASON TO VOLUNTARILY NOT COME INTO THE CHAMBERS BUT TO HEAD HOME AND PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY ONLINE AND THAT ACTUALLY WOULD APPLY TO THE COMMISSIONERS AS WELL.
IF YOU ARE NOT FEELING WELL WE CAN PROVIDE THE PARTICIPATION OPPORTUNITY ONLINE FOR YOU AND WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO LET US KNOW IN ADVANCE SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE SET UP TO HAVE THE ACCESS YOU NEED.
BUT DEFINITELY IF YOU'RE NOT FEELING WELL FOR ANY REASON DON'T COME TO THE IN PERSON MEETING IF YOU CAN AVOID IT.
AND THEN LASTLY, ON A SOMEWHAT SAID NO BUT ALSO A CELEBRATORY NOTE WE DO WANT TO MAKE THE COMMISSION AWARE THAT ONE OF OUR OWN IS MOVING ON.
ROSIE OUR ASSOCIATE PLANNER HAS ACCEPTED A POSITION WITH THE CITY OF PALM DESERT AND SHE WILL BE A SENIOR PLANNER WITH THEM AND ROSIE'S LAST DAY IS JULY 2 SO THIS WILL BE HER FINAL PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING WITH YOU BUT ROSIE HAS BEEN WITH US FOR FOUR PLUS YEARS AND ON BEHALF OF THE TEAM AND THE DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY WE WANT TO THANK HER FOR ALL OF HER HARD WORK, CONTRIBUTIONS AND SHE HAD A LOT OF INTERESTING PROJECTS JOB AND SHE WAS ABLE TO, I THINK, REALLY ESTABLISH HERSELF WITH A LOT OF STRONG SKILLS HERE AT THE CITY THAT
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SHE CAN CARRY FORWARD INTO HER NEW OPPORTUNITY SO WE WISH HER WELL AND WE CELEBRATE HER NEW OPPORTUNITY BUT WE ARE ALSO A LITTLE SAD AND SO IF YOU HAVE A CHANCE PLEASE, IF YOU FEEL SO INCLINED, REACH OUT TO HER AND SHARE YOUR FEELINGS WITH HER IF YOU WOULD LIKE BUT WE JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AGAIN TO ROSIE FOR ALL HER HARD WORK ON BEHALF OF OUR COMMUNITY.WITH THAT I WILL TURN IT OVER TO LEILA.
>> SORRY, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY EXCEPT I WISH VERY, VERY GOOD LIFE FOR ROSIE AT HER NEW POSITION AND SHE WILL BE MISSED FOR SURE SO WE ARE ALL VERY HAPPY FOR HER AND THAT SHOWS THAT WE WILL STRUGGLE A LITTLE BIT UNTIL WE FIND A REPLACEMENT BUT SO WE WISH HER THE BEST BUT WE ASK WITH THE COMMISSION TO BEAR WITH US TO BE ABLE TO GET BACK ON A FULL STAFF.
THAT IS ALL I HAVE FOR TONIGHT.
>> ROSIE, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY OTHER THAN WAIT UNTIL I SEE ERIC.
[LAUGHTER] >> I'M NOT SURE WHY MY CAMERA IS NOT WORKING SO I APOLOGIZE BUT I DO WANT TO JUST THINK THE COMMISSIONERS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
IT HAS BEEN A GREAT LEARNING EXPERIENCE AND, YOU KNOW, JUST LOTS OF TOUGH PROJECTS AS KEVIN HAS A SAID, YOU KNOW, GREAT LEARNING CURVE FOR ME AND YOU KNOW I AM JUST GRATEFUL FOR THIS NEW OPPORTUNITY AND I'M GRATEFU FOR THE CITY FOR ALLOWING ME TO GROW AND PROSPER AND I AM SAD TO LEAVE.
WE'VE GOT A REALLY GREAT TEAM HERE AND YOU KNOW WE TRY TO JUST DO OUR BEST TO PRESENT TO YOU OUR BEST ABILITIES AND, YOU KNOW, I'M EXTREMELY SADDENED BUT, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THEY CAN CONTINUE ON WITHOUT ME AND, YOU KNOW, I WILL TRULY MISS YOU GUYS AS WELL.
SO, PLEASE DO NOT BE STRANGERS.
I WOULD LOVE TO JUST SHARE MY CONTACT WITH EACH ONE OF YOU AND COME AND SEE ME IN PALM DESERT.
I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH VICE MAYOR AND COUNCILWOMAN AND TOLD THEM THEY ARE VERY LUCKY TO HAVE YOU AND ERIC, NEVER DO THIS AGAIN BUT PALM DESERT IS VERY LUCKY TO HAVE YOU.
I KNOW YOUR ROOTS ARE SUPERSTRONG IN INDIO AND WE KNOW YOU WILL BE MISSED.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, COMMISSIONERS.
I DEFINITELY WILL MISS THIS PLACE BUT I WILL BE HERE AND MAY BE ANOTHER CAPACITY SO I AM A RESIDENT OF THE CITY SO YOU MIGHT SEE ME AGAIN.
>> NO, OTHER THAN THE SAME, THAT ROSIE, WE WILL MISS YOU AND DEFINITELY WE WILL CALL YOU IF WE NEED SOMETHING OR HAVE PLANNING QUESTIONS BUT ERIC IS DEFINITELY IN TROUBLE.
[LAUGHTER] >> I THINK HE KNOWS IT.
>> I KNOW WHERE HE LIVES, TWO.
>> YOU GUYS ARE GREAT, HONESTLY.
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I YOUR COMMENTS AND JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS HAVE DEFINITELY CHALLENGED ME SO I AM VERY GRATEFUL TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THAT ON FOR THE NEXT STEP IN MY CAREER.>> CHAIR, IF I MAY, I WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO ROSIE.
ROSIE, YOU HAVE DONE AMAZING THINGS OUT THERE AND I VERY MUCH LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOUR CONTINUED PARTICIPATION IN THE CITY.
IN THE SHORT TIME I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO INTERACT WITH YOU IN THIS CAPACITY YOU HAVE LEFT A GOOD IMPRESSION SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME HERE AND YEAH BUT I DON'T WANT TO TAKE INDIO AWAY FROM YOU, ROSIE, BUT HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. SNYDER.
LAST TIME WHEN WE MET RIGHT BEFORE THE JOINT PLANNING, THE JOINT MEETING WITH COUNSEL, I'M SORRY, ABOUT THE HOUSING ELEMENT UPDATE I HAD POSED A QUESTION ABOUT IF WE WERE GOING TO GET ANY STATS OR ANY SORT OF PULMONARY FINDINGS THAT THEY HAD GONE THROUGH THE INITIAL SURVEY AND I DIDN'T -- I THINK YOU MENTIONED THEY WOULD COVER THAT AND I KNOW WE WERE REALLY SHORT ON TIME SO I AM WONDERING IF THERE IS LIKE A JOINT SESSION 2.2 AND IF OR HOW WE CAN GET SOME OF THE INFORMATION IN THE COMMUNITY WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE WHAT GOES ABOUT RIGHT YES, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.
I DID GET THE TIME CUT SHORT AND WE DID HAVE TO HURRY THROUGH AND SO THE UPDATE SO THE CONSULTANT TEAM IS WORKING ON THE DRAFT HOUSING ELEMENT THAT WILL HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT EXISTING CONDITIONS.
W INTERESTED IN WITH THE KIND OF A SUMMARY AND CORRECT ME COMMISSIONER THAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENT KIND OF RENT OR OWNERSHIP BURDENS FOR MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF THEIR HOUSING COSTS, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY SO WE CAN PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO YOU AND HAPPY TO HAVE THAT SENT OUT VIA E-MAIL AND THEN IF THERE ARE OTHER INFORMATION THAT ANY COMMISSIONER WANTS THAT THE DRAFT REPORT WILL BE HOPEFULLY AVAILABLE IN THE NOT-TOO-DISTANT FUTURE SO ALL OF THAT INFORMATION WILL BE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE AND WE WILL BE HAPPY TO SEND YOU OUT EXCERPTS FROM THAT AND THANK YOU FOR THE REMINDER.
WE HAD TO CUT IT SHORT AND SO THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL WE JUST COULDN'T GET TO IT BUT DEFINITELY COULD SEND IT OUT.
>> THANK YOU, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? IF NOT, IF I GET A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
>> AND HERE, IF I MIGHT SUGGEST THAT WE SPECIFY THE LOCATION OF WHERE WE WILL BE ADJOURNING THE NEXT MEETING WILL BE DIFFERENT THAN THE FIRST TIME SO IT WILL BE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS ON JULY 14 AT 6:00 P.M.
[LAUGHTER] ALL IN FAVOR, ROLL CALL.
>> COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ-CEJA.
>> MOTION CARRIED, ADJOURNED AT 8:31 P.M.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.