SO WE WILL RUN UP THIS WAY AND A NICE BOLD STRIPE UP THERE.
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A LOT OF THIS WILL DISAPPEAR AS WE DO IT LATER IN THE PAINTING BUT LET'S ALSO PUT[3. STATEMENT FROM THE COMMISSION SECRETARY]
AN EDGE UNDERNEATH THIS STONE THAT'S HANGING OUT OVER THE EDGE OF THE BRIDGE.SEE HOW NICE THAT FLAT BRUSH WORKS AGAINST THAT.
[7.1 Recommendation to City Council for Nine (9) Traffic Signal Box Designs]
JUST PULL THE BRUSH ACROSS.LET'S PULL THE CREEK IN A LITTLE BIT.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN GO BACK AND ADD LATER.
LET'S TAKE SOME OF THE BLUE AND LET'S PUT THIS LEDGE IN HERE.
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I HAVE TO USE THE END OF THIS BRUSH TO GET BETWEEN THOSE TWO.THAT IS ACROSS AND -- LET'S SEE THAT.
>> SO THIS IS A PLATFORM THAT WE USED AND IT'S REALLY GREAT.
IT HOSTED BOTH OUR APPLICATIONS.
THIS IS HOW YOU SEE MANY BOXES CONFIGURES.
THIS IS THE TITLE OF THIS ONE.
I WILL JUST GO AHEAD TO LAUREN.
SO, I WILL JUST GO AHEAD TO LAUREN.
THIS IS REALLY PRETTY IN A CONVENTIONAL WAY.
OBVIOUSLY WE WORK WITH OUR VENDOR.
MAKE SURE WE DO JUSTICE TO THE WORK AND IT REALLY SUITS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
AND THIS ONE IS BY -- THIS IS OUR FINAL TAKE HERE.
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THE NEXT ONE IS BY JESSICA.SO, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS HAVING THE DREAM ESCAPE CONCEPT BUT ALSO MAKING SURE THAT IT WASN'T TOO MUCH BLACK SPACE SO BECAUSE THE COMMITTEE REALLY ENJOYED THIS WORK WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO SORT OF WORK WITH THE ARTISTS TO SEE IF WE CAN ADD A LITTLE LEGISLATURE THE WAY THE BLANK SPACES ARE.
SO IT COMPLIES WITH WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR OR MAYBE AGAIN WORK WITH THE GRAPHIC DESIGNERS WHO MAY BE ABLE TO HELP US DO THAT.
THIS IS A FAVORITE OF BOTH COMMISSIONERS AGAIN THEY ARE ALL BLANK SPACES.
WE WILL SEE IF WE CAN WORK WITH THE ARTIST TO CREATE A LITTLE BIT OF TEXTURE THAT'S INVITING FOR THEM.
AND THE FINAL PIECE ON THE 26TH.
AND DIFFERENT TYPES OF MOTIFS THAT BOTH WENT WITH THE THEME BUT ALSO FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND I THINK THEY DID A GREAT JOB.
GOOD PIECES FOR THE PIECES THEY WANTED TO SEE INCLUDED.
AT THIS POINT THEY ARE ASKING YOU TO GIVE YOUR COMMENTS.
IF YOU HAVE ANY INQUIRIES ABOUT THE PROCESS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT AND WE CAN GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO THE NEXT STEP.
>> WE CAME UP WITH THAT ONE BECAUSE THE LAST TWO SORT OF HAD THIS VERY THEORY OF THE WORLDLY FEELING AND SO WE FIGURED GIVEN EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW JUST KIND OF HAVING AN ESCAPE VISUALLY WITH THE WHAT WOULD HELP THE COMMUNITY CONNECT WITH THE WORK.
ALSO THE AT HELP COMMITTEE IS SPONSORED HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM.
SO THIS IS A PLATFORM THAT WE USED AND IT'S REALLY GREAT.
IT HOSTED BOTH OF OUR APPLICATIONS AND ADJUDICATION AND PRESENTATION ALSO.
AND THIS ONE IS CONFIGURED IN A WAY THAT YOU'D SEE WITH THAT ONE PARTICULAR IMAGE.
SO I THINK IT WILL BE A MATTER OF WORKING WITH THEM TO SAY, WELL THIS ONE MIGHT
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BE OKAY IF YOU DO IT THIS WAY MAYBE NOT THIS ONE.SO, I THINK IT MIGHT BE IMPORTANT TO THE ARTIST.
I THINK IT WOULD DEFINITELY BE IMPORTANT TO THE ARTIST AND JUST FOR ANYONE VIEWING IT TO BE ABLE TO READ ALL OF IT.
I DON'T THINK THAT NOT THAT IT'S NOT MEANT TO BE RED.
I'M JUST GIVEN MY OPINION HERE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE INTENTION WAS.
IT CREATES THIS BACKDROP AND PUTS THE REACTION LOOKING AT.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW ESSENTIAL THAT PART OF IT BUT I GUESS WHEN WE DO CONTACT THAT.
>> WE SEE A BUNCH OF WRITING ON A BOX AND SOMEONE WILL ALSO HIDE A TAG.
I DON'T KNOW THAT PEOPLE WOULD DO THAT BUT IT WOULD MAKE IT EASIER TO HIDE SOMETHING IN THERE.
I DID LIKE THE IDEA THAT THEY ARE WITH THE GRAPHIC DESIGN TEAM.
THEY ARE ARTISTS TOO SO THEY WILL BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE WITH THE IMAGE.
>> I ONLY HAD ONE OTHER COMMENT ON THERE.
I DIDN'T THINK THAT THE SMILY FACE ONE WAS A TERRIBLY STRONG ONE.
IT'S THE REPEAT IMAGE AND IT'S VERY QUICK I THINK.
>> I MEAN, IN THIS CASE WHICH ARE EACH OF THEM WE HAD TO BE FAIR WITH HOW WE LOOKED AT IT AND WHAT THE GUIDELINES ARE AND WHAT MOVED THEM TO PICK THESE ELECTIONS.
I DID RAISE AN ISSUE ABOUT THE BLANK SPACE.
BUT, I GUESS MAYBE YOU GUYS SHOULD SPEAK TO THIS SELECTION IF YOU'D LIKE TO.
>> YEAH, I MEAN THERE ARE ARTISTS OUT THERE THAT I RELATE TO WHEN THEY PUT SORT OF MESSAGES AND THEY TALKED ABOUT TELLING WOMAN NOT TO SMILE AND IT'S KIND OF SPOKE TO ME IN THAT WAY AND THEN HAVING IT YET AS MASK AND IT'S LIKE THE INNER PEACE WITH EMOTION THAT THE FIGURE IS GIVING.
SO THERE'S MORE MESSAGING IN SIMPLICITY AND THAT'S WHAT I REALLY GRAVITATE TOWARDS.
>> YEAH, IF I CAN SPEAK ON IT, TOO.
LIKE THIS ONE AT A GLANCE WASN'T LIKE THE FIRST THING THAT POPPED OUT TO ME AND
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SAID, OH, I WANT THAT ONE BUT I THINK AFTER LOOKING OVER IT A COUPLE OF TIMES AND HEARING THE FEEDBACK THAT VANESSA HAD.IT REALLY STRUCK A CORD IN ME WHERE THIS IS ACTUALLY A VERY POWERFUL PIECE
ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING WHAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS PAST YEAR, HOW OTHER -- >> I AM HAPPY AT THIS AT ALL THIS PIECE.
YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO -- THAT'S A NO FOR ME.
BUT IN GENERAL I FEEL LIKE WHEN WE APPOINT A DOCUMENT TO ANYONE TO A TASK WE TRUST THEM TO DO THAT WORK.
I JUST HAVE A LOGISTICAL QUESTION FROM A TIME LINE FOR WHEN WE START NO SEE THESE ON THE SINGLE BOXES.
DO WE KNOW HOW LONG THAT WOULD TAKE?
>> SO, I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS DOING THE LAST TWO.
I WAS AT THE TIME SAID THERE WAS A MINIMUM TIME LINE OF 30 DAYS.
>> THAT IS THE MINIMUM TIME BECAUSE AGAIN THAT'S THE GRAPHIC DESIGN WORK DONE AND ALL THESE OTHER THINGS.
YOU KNOW THEY WOULD HAVE TO SEND IT BACK AND FORTH TO ME.
SO, I WOULD SAY LET'S GIVE US MAYBE SIX WEEKS OR SOMETHING SO THAT THEY CAN GET IT ON.
LAST TIME I DID ASK THEM TO RUSH TO DO IT BECAUSE MARK WANTED IT DONE SO.
>> IT WOULD BE GREAT TO BE UP THERE.
I'M GLAD TO KNOW THAT'S A SHORT NOTICE.
THAT WAS THE MEN NEW DEADLINE -- THAT WAS THE MINIMUM DEADLINE.
THAT'S WHAT I GOT FOR THAT ONE.
SO I GUESS NOW IF WE'RE GOING TO.
SO, EVERYTHING ON MY LIST WE TALKED ABOUT.
>> THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM BUT IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS OR THOUGHTS?
>> YEAH, I HAD ASKED LAST MEETING ABOUT THE CONTRACT FOR THIS PROGRAM AND THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS IN IT AND IT'S BEEN REVISED FOR IF THERE WAS ANY ADJUSTMENTS SINCE IT WAS MADE.
>> SO, I PUT FORTH THE REVISIONS THAT I FELT WERE APPROPRIATE FOR AN EXHIBITION OPPORTUNITY AND THERE WERE CONFLICTS ABOUT HOW THAT SHOULD HAPPEN.
WHAT I WAS TOLD BY MY DIRECTOR AND IT WAS THAT THEY WANTED TO TAKE IT UP THE FLAG POLE TO SPEAK WITH HIS MANAGER ABOUT IT.
AND SO AT THIS POINT I HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY FEEDBACK AS TO WHEN THAT IS GOING TO TAKE PLACE BUT I UNDERSTAND WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION BECAUSE WE HAVE NINE MORE AND THEY WOULD NEED TO HAVE CONTRACTS.
SO, I GUESS IT'S JUST SOMETHING I CAN SEE AGAIN AND SEE WHAT COMES FROM THEM.
BUT ULTIMATELY I FEEL LIKE THIS BATCH WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE A CONTACT BEFORE AND GETTING ENTANGLED.
>> REFRESH MY TERRIBLE MEMORY.
YOU HAVE A CONTRACT OF LAST TWO THAT WERE SO RUSHED THROUGH.
>> THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH THE LANGUAGE IN IT.
I FOUND ISSUES WITH IT BECAUSE THERE WAS SOMETHING STATING THAT THE CITY WOULD HAVE OWNERSHIP OF THE PIECE EVEN AFTER THE PIECES SORT OF TAKEN OR DECOMMISSIONED AND I KIND OF DIDN'T AGREE OF THAT LANGUAGE SEEKING OWNERSHIP OF THAT WORK EVEN THOUGH THE PROGRAM IS FINISHED.
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>> THE TIME LINE FOR THEIR PIECE AND THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL BOX PROGRAM.
>> SO, THE TIME LINE IN OUR GUIDELINES SAYS THAT I THINK IT WOULD BE THREE-FIVE YEARS THAT THE PIECES DEPENDING ON HOW THE WEATHER, OF COURSE WOULD BE INSTALLED FOR.
SO, BECAUSE IT'S A TEMPORARY OPPORTUNITY I FEEL THAT IT TAKES OWNERSHIP MIGHT BE A BIT MUCH.
SO, THE COMPETITION NOW IS BETWEEN EXHIBITION AND ACQUISITION.
THIS IS AN EXHIBITION OPPORTUNITY WE DIDN'T COMMISSION THESE WORKS.
AND IF WE'RE REQUIRING SOMETHING OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE BEEN A PART OF THAT.
IF YOU GET THIS ORIGINAL IMAGE.
IT'S CREATED FOR YOU FOR YOUR CITY SO OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE RIGHTS TO IT AND THIS IS PROBABLY EXHIBITED AND HOW THE COPYRIGHTS AND FREEDOMS THAT YOU'D HAVE WITH IT AS OPPOSED TO AN EXHIBITION OPPORTUNITY WHICH IN SOME CASES THIS IS WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE EXITED FOR A PERIOD OF TIME AND THEN DECOMMISSIONED.
SO, YOU KNOW HOW WE APPROACH ARTISTS, CONTRACTS WITH REGARDS TO COPYRIGHT AND THE DAMAGE THAT IT CAN DO ON DIFFERENT -- IN CULTURE AND WHEN IT COMES TO DIGITAL WORK.
WHAT IS THE FAIR USE OF COLLEAGUES FROM PACKS WHICH I WAS THE CHAIR OF LAST YEAR.
SHE WROTE FOR AMERICANS FOR THE ARTS ON SORT OF BEING A BIT MORE CONSERVATIVE IN TERMS OF HOW OWNERSHIP.
HOW LONG AND WHAT TYPE OF OWNERSHIP WE KEEP OVER WORKS THAT ARE SUBMITTED TO US AND PROGRAMS LIKE THESE AND SO WHEN WE WERE SORT OF CREATING THE CONTRACT I WROTE IT BUT SHE LAWYERED IT.
I WROTE IT, TOO, THAT IN FACT WE WOULD RETAIN THE ABILITY TO HAVE PAST LOGS AND FOR THOSE PURPOSES FOR EVER BUT NOT FOR REPRODUCTION AND YOU KNOW -- AND EXPLICITS, APPROVAL FROM THE ARTIST AND PERHAPS ANOTHER PAYMENT.
WE ARE OFFERING THESE ARTISTS $750 AND OVER A PERIOD OF FIVE YEARS THAT WORKS OUT MAYBE NOT THAT MUCH.
SO I THINK THE OPPORTUNITY THEN TAKES THAT AMOUNT THAT THEY GET PAID FOR THE WORK SO LOW.
BUT, OF COURSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PROTECTING THE CITY WITH THE KIND OF CONTRACT THAT WE OFFER.
THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO PLACE OURSELVES IN A PLACE WHERE WE WORK AND WE GET IN TROUBLE FOR IT OR WE GET SUED.
IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION ABOUT WHERE DOES PROTECTION OF OURSELVES END AND CAN GO OVER THE LINE BEGIN AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A HUGE DISCUSSION BECAUSE MANY DIFFERENT CITIES DO THINGS IN MANY DIFFERENT WAYS AND WE STILL HAVEN'T SETTLED ON WHERE THAT LINE IS FOR THE CONTRACTS.
>> SENDLY THIS PROGRAM RIGHT NOW -- SENDLY THE ARTIST IS GETTING PAID $750 TO USE THEIR IMAGE FOR A PERIOD OF FIVE YEARS.
AFTER THAT PERIOD OF FIVE YEARS THEY WILL JUST DO WHATEVER THEY WANT WITH THAT
IMAGE BUT DURING CAN -- >> THE WAY I READ IT IS THEY DON'T HAVE THE RIGHTS AFTER THE FIVE YEARS.
>> SO THEY SAID THEY WOULD RETAIN RIGHTS TO THE WORK AND PERPETUITY.
>> EVEN THOUGH IT'S AN EXHIBITION.
>> YEAH, AFTER A PERIOD OF FIVE YEARS THE ARTIST SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO WHATEVER THEY
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WANT.>> SO, HAVE THE ABILITY TO REPRICE THIS WORK SO AFTER FIVE YEARS, OH, YOU KNOW WE WANT TO DO ANOTHER TRAFFIC SIGNAL BOX AND JUST USE THAT WHAT WE USED FROM BEFORE.
AND THAT MANY CITIES IS A CONSERVATIVE APPROACH BECAUSE THEY'RE FEARFUL WITH WHAT IF.
I THINK WHEN WE DRAW THE PARAMETERS REALLY CLEARLY.
I THINK OBVIOUSLY WE WANT TO BE WITH THE UPCOMING FOR AN EXHIBITION.
WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO THEN RECREATE THAT BUSINESS WITHIN A WHOLE LINE PART WITH OTHER CONSENT OR PAYMENT.
IT SHOULD BE LIKE ANY EXHIBITION.
>> IT'S A DOCUMENTATION OF THAT PERIOD OF TIME.
SO PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO COME IN AND SEE WHAT WAS THERE.
THAT WHERE THE POSITION HAS BEEN TAKEN TO AND -- I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE FIRST ON HIS DESK BUT I THINK AS WE TRY TO ADVANCE THIS PROGRAM MAKING SURE THAT THE IS OURS NOW.
WE WILL HAVE THAT CONSERVATION AGAIN.
SO, I CAN UPDATE YOU AS TO WHAT HAPPENS.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, CONCERNS? THE ACTION I AM IS TO RECOMMEND THESE PIECES OF ART WORK TO CITY COUNCIL SO IF YOU'RE READY TO TAKE ON ACTION ON THAT WE CAN MOTION TO THAT.
HOW MANY OF YOU ACCEPT THE COMMITTEES SUGGESTIONS AND RECOMMEND THE CITY COUNCIL?
ITEM 8.1 OUR NEXT ITEM IS THE STAFF ITEM.
[8.1 Sarbalé Ke Update]
THE UPDATE THIS COUNCIL APPROVED COMMISSION RECOMMENDED PROJECT WAS SUSPENDED DUE TO TISSUES ARRIVING AROUND COVID-19 BECAUSE THE CITY AND STATE HAVE FULLY OPENED FOR IN PERSON GATHERING RGS BUSINESSES HAVE RESUMED OPERATIONS.THE INSULATION TEAM INDICATED THEIR ABOUT TO RESUME PLANNING FOR THE INSULATION.
>> THE GOAL IS TO COMPLETE INSULATION BY THE END OF OCTOBER SO WE ARE ON A TIME LINE.
THE SMALLEST MONKEY WRENCH I WHEN WE WERE IN 2019 AND IN EARLY 2000, UM -- THEIR INSULATION SO SOME OF THE LOGISTICS HAVE SORT OF CHANGED AND WE HAVE TO HAVE A SMALL SPACE OF WORK WITH THEM BUT PUBLIC WORKS IS BEING GRACIOUS IN PROVIDING SUPPORT TO US.
CERTAIN THINGS MIGHT BE DIFFERENT BUT -- I JUST WANTED TO UPDATE YOU GUYS.
I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THE ARTIST FRANCIS WON THE AWARD IN 2020 THE JEFFERSON
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FOUNDATION.WE LUCKY TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH SUCH AN ACCLAIMED PERSON TO HAVE HIS WORK.
I THINK IT WOULD BE ONE THE LARGEST INSULATIONS.
>> DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
>> UM, WHO'S HANDLING THE MATERIALS AND THE CONSTRUCTION? SHE WAS FOOTING THE BILL FOR THAT?
>> WHO'S HANDLING THE PURCHASE OF MATERIALS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION FOR THE CONCRETE AND THE CONCRETE REBORROW.
>> WHEN WE CREATED THE BUDGET THAT WE HAD -- >> AS FOR AS MATERIAL.
ARE THEY GOING TO BE ASKING FOR MORE IN THE BUDGET? OR BRING THE BUDGET EVEN FARTHER?
>> THE LAST TIME WE SPOKE I SORT OF ASKED A SIMILAR QUESTION.
CAN WE RESUME FROM WHERE WE LEFT OFF.
AND I GOT A YES ON THAT BUT I CAN FOLLOW UP JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT HAS BEEN THOROUGHLY CONSIDERED AND IS THAT A CONCERN TO YOU?
OH, SHOOT WE DON'T HAVE ANY COVERAGE FOR THIS.
IT'S A REAL PROBLEM FOR ANYONE IN ANY KIND OF PROJECT RIGHT NOW.
>> THANKS FOR LETTING ME KNOW.
>> THEY WANT TO SEE THE INSTALLED.
THEY WANT TO SEE IT LOOKING GOOD.
SO, THAT WOULD BE -- >> WHAT THEY CAN COVER.
>> IF THEY HAVE INCREASES THEY WILL LET US KNOW AND WE WILL FIGURE OUT WHAT WE WILL DO ABOUT THAT.
>> WE WILL GET AN UPDATE IN THE NEXT MEETING SO WE WILL HAVE MORE INFO.
>> WHETHER OUR CONTRACT HAS A CLAUSE IN CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS THEY USUALLY HAVE A NO ESCALATION CLAUSE IN THERE SO WE MAY BE COVERED ON THAT ON OUR END.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO SURPRISES ON EITHER SIDE IF WE WANT THIS PROJECT TO MOVE FORWARD WUT A HITCH.
>> I WILL REVIEW THE INFORMATION AND ASK HIM TO LOOK AT THE NUMBERS AGAIN.
>> WE MAY HAVE TO LOOK AT IT IF WE HAVE A CONTRACT EXECUTED WITH THEM.
>> LIKE I SAID, IN A LOT OF LANGUAGE FOR ANY BUILDING RIGHT NOW THEY ARE PUTTING IN NO ESCALATION.
SO MAYBE THAT'S THERE AND MAYBE THEY JUST -- >> YEAH.
I KNOW THERE'S A CITY PARTNER IN WAYS.
SO, I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S A DESIRE -- TOO.
HE SAID IT BEFORE IN THIS CHAMBER THAT IT'S TO PROFIT FROM THIS INSULATION JUST TO SEE THAT THIS WORK FINDS A GOOD HOME.
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SO, BUT I THINK THOSE QUESTIONS ARE SIGNIFICANTLY VALID AND I FOLLOW UP.>> I GOT FUNDING TO DO A SERIES OF CREATIVE WORKSHOPS FOR VETERANS.
I HAVE A LOCAL INDIVIDUAL WHO FUNDED THE ENTIRE PROGRAM.
SO, THAT WILL BE HAPPENING MOST LIKELY IN THE FALL.
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AND, YEAH -- >> THAT'S GREAT NEWS.
ANY OTHER ITEMS? COMMISSIONER CRUZ IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING? ALL RIGHT.
THEN WE CAN HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT.
>> A MOTION TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING.
>> THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.