[1. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL]
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>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: GOOD EVENING.
WELCOME TO OUR INDIO PLANNING COMMISSION.
I WILL GO AHEAD AND CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
CAN YOU PLEASE HAVE ROLL CALL.
>> CHAIR PERSON JACQUELINE LOPEZ.
>> COMMISSIONER CHRISTIAN RODRIGUEZ CEJA.
>> AND COMMISSIONER ESPERANZA VALDEZ.
>> IF YOU CAN PLEASE GET THE INTRODUCTION OF STAFF.
MADAME CHAIRPERSON, TODAY WE HAVE REBECCA WINSCOTT OUR FIRE MARSHAL, ROLDAN LOPEZ, WHICH WILL BE ATTENDING THE MEETING VIA ZOOM, OUR ASSOCIATE ENGINEER, KEVIN SNYDER MY DIRECTOR, GUSTAVO GOMEZ OUR ASSISTANT PLANNER, EVELYN BELTRAN SECRETARY, ZACH HEINSELMAN OUR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY, JASON ANDERSON CODE ENFORCEMENT MANAGER AND MYSELF, LEILA NAMVAR.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: THANK YOU, LEILA.
IF I CAN HAVE OUR VICE CHAIR LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
>> VICE CHAIRPERSON YSIANO: CERTAINLY.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: AT THIS TIME IF WE CAN GET A STATEMENT FROM OUR
[4. STATEMENT FROM THE COMMISSION SECRETARY]
COMMISSION SECRETARY >> EVELYN BELTRAN: THE GENERAL RULES OF COURTESY FOR VIRTUAL MEETINGS ARE FOLLOWS.
PLEASE BE MINDFUL OF BACKGROUND NOISE.
WHEN JOINING IS THE MEETING VIRTUALLY.
VIRTUAL MEETING PARTICIPANTS MUST MUST MUTE THEIR MICROPHONE WHEN THEY ARE NOT SPEAKING.
WHEN YOUR MICROPHONE IS NOT MUTED, AVOID ACTIVITY THAT COULD CREATE ADDITIONAL NOISE.
POSITION YOUR CAMERA PROPERLY.
IF YOU CHOOSE TO USE A WEB CAMERA BE SURE IT IS IN A STABLE POSITION AND FOCUSED AT EYE LEVEL IF POSSIBLE IF YOU WILL BE SHARING CONTENT DURING THE MEETING, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE FILE AND/OR LINKS READY TO GO BEFORE THE MEETING BEGINS.
MEMBERS FROM THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATING VIRTUALLY WISHING TO PROVIDE ORAL TESTIMONY MUST FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS ON THE AGENDA AND/OR ONLINE IN ORDER TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR AGENDA OR NON-AGENDA ITEMS. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATING VIRTUALLY WISHING TO PROVIDE ORAL TESTIMONY HAVE THREE MINUTES TO PROVIDE ORAL TESTIMONY.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: THANK YOU, EVELYN.
AND IF WE CAN ALSO HAVE OUR STATEMENT FROM OUR CITY ATTORNEY.
[5. STATEMENT FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY]
>> ZACH HEINSELMAN: THERE ARE NO DIRECTIVES ISSUED TEMPORARILY HALTING LOCAL GOVERNMENT PROCESSING LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT OF APPLICATIONS AND/OR CONSIDERATION OF POLICY ACTIONS INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENTS, ZONING CODE AMENDMENTS AND NEW OR AMENDED SPECIFIC PLANS.
THEREFORE THE CITY OF INDIO CONTINUES TO ACCEPT AND PROCESS APPLICATIONS IN ACCORDANCE WITH WITH STATE AND LOCAL REQUIREMENTS.
THE CITY OF INDIO IS FOLLOWING GOVERNOR NEWSOM'S EXECUTIVE ORDINANCE N-25-20 AND N-29-20 PERTAINING TO THE BROWN ACT.
THESE EXECUTIVE ORDERS ALLOW GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES TO CONDUCT MEETINGS BY ELECTRONIC MEANS AND FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO OBSERVE THE MEETING ELECTRONICALLY AS WELL AS PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT OR PUBLIC TESTIMONY TELEPHONICALLY OR OTHERWISE ELECTRONICALLY.
ACCORDINGLY, THE CITY COUNCIL AND PLANNING COMMISSION ARE CURRENTLY CONDUCTING SCHEDULED MEETINGS IN A HYBRID IN-PERSON AND VIRTUAL MEETING FORMAT.
THE CITY OF INDIO HAS IMPLEMENTED TECHNOLOGY SOLUTIONS THAT ALLOW MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO OBSERVE AND OFFER PUBLIC COMMENT AS WELL AS PUBLIC.
DURING VIRTUAL PUBLIC HEARINGS AND AT SCHEDULED PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS, THE CITY IS COMMITTED TO PROVIDING PUBLIC PARTICIPATION OPPORTUNITIES WHILE ALSO COMPLYING WITH THE REQUIREMENTS FOR PROCESSING OF LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW APPLICATIONS AND/OR CONSIDERATION OF POLICY ACTIONS.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: THANK YOU, ZACH.
DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON ANY ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA?
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: SEEING THERE ARE NO MINUTES WE ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND START
[8.1 Citrus Plaza II – Phase II Design Review 21-04-488 (Citrus Plaza II – Planning Area 2)]
OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING ITEM WHICH IS 8.1, CITRUS PLAZA II, PHASE II DESIGN REVIEW 21-04-488 CITRUS PLAZA, PLANNING AREA 2.[00:05:10]
>> GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND WELCOME BACK TO YOUR FIRST IN-PERSON FOR THOSE WHO ARE IN A TEPID ANSWER AND GOOD EVENING TO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO ARE TENDING VIRTUALLY.
THIS IS OUR FIRST IN-PERSON MEETING FOR A LONG TIME FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION SO ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AND PERHAPS ONLY MYSELF, IF WE STUMBLE A LITTLE BIT, PLEASE BE PATIENT.
THIS IS A LITTLE BIT AWKWARD AND WEIRD BUT GOOD.
SO THIS EVENING I AM FILLING IN FOR RECENTLY DEPARTED ASSOCIATE PLANNER ROSIE LUA.
I WANT TO THANK ROSIE FOR ALL THE WORK SHE DID LEADING UP TO THIS EVENING ON THIS PROJECT AND ACKNOWLEDGE THAT SHE DID THE REAL HEAVY LIFTING SO I'M KIND OF BATTING CLEANUP TONIGHT AND WILL DO MY BEST TO REPRESENT HER EFFORT WELL.
SO THIS EVENING THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS CONSIDERING A DESIGN REVIEW APPLICATION.
IT'S DESIGN REVIEW 21-04-488, AND IT IS FOR REMAINING PORTION OF THE CITRUS PLAZA II, WHICH THE COMMISSION IS FAMILIAR WITH.
YOU HAVE REVIEWED IT PREVIOUSLY BOTH IN TERMS OF A SPECIFIC PLAN REQUEST THAT THE COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL TO CITY COUNCIL AND IT WAS ALSO PRE-APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND BE ALSO MORE RECENTLY AT THE END OF 2020 YOU REVIEWED THE DESIGN REVIEW APPLICATION FOR THE FIRST PHASE OF THAT PROJECT, THE COMMERCIAL PHASE OF THAT PROJECT THAT FRONTS ALONG JEFFERSON STREET AND THE COMMISSION GAVE CONDITIONAL APPROVAL TO THAT PROJECT.
SO WE'RE NOW COMING TO THE SECOND PHASE OF THIS PROJECT FOR PLANNING AREA 2, THE REMAINING PORTION OF PLANNING AREA 2, AND THIS IS A MULTI-FAMILY PROJECT FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
SO I'M WHAT I'M GOING TO DO THIS EVENING IS WALK YOU THROUGH THE PROJECT.
PLEASE FEEL FREE TO STOP ME AT ANY TIME IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
THERE WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR QUESTIONS AT THE END AS WELL.
AND THEN THE APPLICANT AND APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVES ARE HERE TO ALSO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS IN ADVANCE OF THE FORMAL PUBLIC HEARING.
SO AS YOU'RE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH, THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION IS NORTHEAST OF AVENUE 50 AND JEFFERSON.
IT'S IMMEDIATELY NORTH OF THE EXISTING CITRUS PLAZA THAT IS ANCHORED BY THE RALPH'S GROCERY STORE FOR A POINT OF REFERENCE.
THE AREA THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THE BACK HALF THE PROPERTY WHICH IS ABOUT 9.19 ACRES AND AGAIN IT'S REFERRED TO IN THE PLANNING DOCUMENTS AS PLANNING AREA 2.
SO AS I ALREADY REFERENCED THIS PROJECT HAS GONE THROUGH SEVERAL ROUNDS OF REVIEW.
AGAIN, IT WENT THROUGH A SPECIFIC PLAN REVIEW.
THE SPECIFIC PLAN, AS YOU KNOW, SET THE LAND USE DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR THE PROPERTY, AND THAT IS THE GUIDING ZONING REGULATIONS THAT WE REVIEW PROJECTS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED UNDER THE CITRUS PLAZA BANNER.
WE LOOK AT THE SPECIFICS PLAN TO SEE IF THEY COMPLY.
AND AS I MENTIONED, INDUSTRIOUS PLAZA II, THE INITIAL PLANNING AREA 1 DESIGN REVIEW, YOU REVIEWED THAT IN DECEMBER 20 AND YOU GRANTED CONDITIONAL APPROVAL, AND WHAT THAT REALLY ENTAILED AT THAT TIME WAS SOME MULTI-TENANT RETAIL BUILDINGS, TWO DRIVE-THROUGH RESTAURANTS, AND ALSO A GASOLINE PUMPING FUEL STATION.
MORE RECENTLY, IT ACTUALLY -- I APOLOGIZE.
IT ALSO INCLUDED A SMALL PORTION OF PLANNING AREA 2, ABOUT A 6900 SQUARE FOOT RETAIL BUILDINGS SO IT INTRUDED SLIGHTLY INTO PLANNING AREA 2 AND SO THAT'S WHY WE SAY THE REMAINDER OF PLANNING AREA 2 IS BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.
I DON'T REMEMBER HOW TO USE A MOUSE ON A PRESENTATION HERE.
SO THEY EVENING THE PROJECT IN FRONT OF YOU, IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE SCREEN, IS THE COLORED AREA ON THE SCREEN TO THE RIGHT OF THE TEXT.
THIS IS A MULTI-FAMILY PROJECT.
THIS IS IN ESSENCE WHAT WE CALL IN PLANNING WORLD A HORIZONTAL MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT BETWEEN THE COMMERCIAL ON THE PLANNING AREA 1 AND THE MULTI-FAMILY AND PLANNING AREA 2.
IT'S BEING PROPOSED BY LICHTER EQUITIES LP CARE OF MR. ROBERT LICHTER WHO IS HERE THIS EVENING AS THE APPLICANT.
AND REALLY AS I SAID, IT'S THE REMAINDER, DEVELOPMENT REMAINDER OF THE PLANNING AREA 2 WHICH IS ABOUT 3.3 ACRES, AND IT'S COMPRISED OF EIGHT TWO-STORY RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS, 62 MULTI-FAMILY UNITS WITH ONE PARKING SPACE EACH, A ONE-STORY RECREATIONAL BUILDINGS, A COMMUNITY POOL, A SPORTS COURT, ONE MONUMENT SIGN THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN A MINUTE, AND THEN 58 COVERED AND UNCOVERED PARKING SPACES.
SO THIS PROJECT, AS YOU MAY REMEMBER WHEN THE SPECIFIC PLAN WAS GOING THROUGH, ITS CONSIDERATION, THE APPLICANT AT THAT TIME IS THE SAME APPLICANT THIS EVENING, TALKED ABOUT WANTING FLEXIBILITY TO EXPLORE MARKET CONDITIONS,
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SUBSEQUENTLY THEY INVESTIGATED THOSE MARKET CONDITIONS AND HAVE IDENTIFIED THAT'S BELIEVE THERE IS A MARKET FOR MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, THE REMAINING PORTION OF THE ENTIRE 9.91 ACRES WHICH AGAIN WE REFER TO AS PLANNING AREA 2.THIS IS JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW.
I THINK IT GIVES A REALLY GOOD KIND OF STRAIGHT VISUAL REPRESENTATION OF THE PROJECT AREA ON THE LANDSCAPE SIDE.
THEY ARE FOLLOWING THE SPECIFIC PLAN WHICH REALLY DOES PROMOTE A DESERT FRIENDLY LANDSCAPE IN TERMS OF THE USE OF VEGETATION, BOTH TREES AND GROUND COVERS AND SHRUBS.
AND IT ALSO GIVES YOU KIND OF OVERVIEW OF THE BUILDING LAYOUT AND ORIENTATIONS.
TO ORIENT YOU TO THE NORTH IS THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS, LARGE LOTS FAMILY RESIDENCES ON APPROXIMATELY 5 ACRES.
TO THE WEST IS PLANNING AREA 1.
TO THE EAST IS WHAT WE REFER TO AS THE CROSSINGS SPECIFIC PLAN AREA.
THAT WAS ANOTHER PROJECT YOU REVIEWED IN 2020.
AND THEN TO THE SOUTH IS THE EXIST INDUSTRIOUS PLAZA SHOPPING CENTER.
SO THIS IS THE ARCHITECTURAL MATERIALS BOARD THAT THE APPLICANT PUT FORWARD.
AGAIN, THEY'RE WRONG OFF OF THE THEME OF THE SPECIFIC PLAN, WHICH IS MODERN ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES AND DESIGN.
SO YOU SEE THE STUCCO COLORS HERE ALONG WITH STEEL COLORS, SOME COMPOSITE WOOD SIDING AND THE STONE.
THIS IS INTENDED TO MATCH AND BE COMPLEMENTARY TO THE MATERIALS THAT WERE UTILIZED IN PLANNING AREA 1.
SO THAT THERE'S A RELATIVE SEAMLESSNESS, IF YOU WILL, BETWEEN THE TWO PLANNING AREAS.
LIKE I SAID, I'VE GOT TO LEARN HOW TO DRIVE A MOUSE AGAIN.
THIS IS SOME DIFFERENT ELEVATIONS, DIFFERENT ORIENTATIONS TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF ON A COLORED RENDERING WHAT THE ARCHITECTURAL ELEVATIONS LOOK LIKE.
AGAIN, THESE ARE TWO STORY BUILDINGS.
THEY'RE ALLOWED TO GO HIGHER THAN THAT BUT THEY ARE STAYING BLOW THE MAX HEIGHT.
THE SAME IS FOR THE RECREATIONAL BUILDING.
SO THE MAX HEIGHT FOR TWO STORIES WOULD BE 35.
AND FOR THE ONE-STORY THEY'RE AT 19 FEET.
SO THEY HAVE PAID PARTICULAR ATTENTION TO TRYING TO FIT INTO THE SURROUNDING AREA, TRYING TO MAKE THEIR BUILDINGS COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH AND NORTHEAST AND ALSO THE FUTURE RESIDENTIAL USES TO THE EAST.
AGAIN, SOME DIFFERENT ELEVATIONS FOR YOU.
AND THEN I'M GOING TO MOVE INTO -- THESE ARE COLORED RENDERINGS THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED OF WHAT THE PROJECT COULD LOOK LIKE.
THIS GIVES YOU DIFFERENT ORIENTATIONS AS YOU LOOK INTO THIS FEATURED MULTI-FAMILY AREA, AND SO THIS IS ONE ELEVATION THAT'S LOOKING TO THE NORTHEAST AND THEN THIS IS ANOTHER ELEVATION NEAR THE POOL, COMMUNITY POOL AREA THAT IS LOOKING NORTH.
AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THE VARIETY OF MATERIALS THE APPLICANT IS USING BETWEEN THE WOOD AND THE STEEL, THE VARIETY OF COLOR, AND THEN ALSO THIS ALSO REPRESENTS THE INTENT TO USE DETER APPROPRIATE LANDSCAPING.
ALL OF THESE FEATURES, BOTH THE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES AND LANDSCAPE FEATURES, ARE BEING DONE CONSISTENTLY WITH THE ADOPTED SPECIFIC PLAN.
AGAIN 1 JUST ANOTHER SET OF ELEVATIONS.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THE UNITS ALL DO HAVE GARAGE.
AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, AND ALSO HAVE BALCONIES, AND LOTS OF LIGHT PENETRATION.
AGAIN, JUST ANOTHER SET OF -- AND THEN THIS IS AT THE TRANSITION AREA, SO TO THE IMMEDIATE WEST IS THE BACK AREA OF THE COMMERCIAL AND THEN TO THE EAST IS THE MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
I HAVE USED THE TERM IN THE PAST OF DESCRIBING THE INTENT TO BE OF WHAT A VILLAGE SO THAT THERE'S WALKABILITY.
FOLKS CAN GET ACCESS TO SERVICES.
MANY OF THE SERVICES THAT THEY NEED ON A DAILY OR WEEKLY BASIS WITHOUT HAVING TO ACTUALLY LEAVE THE SITE, WHETHER IT'S GROCERY SHOPPING OR RESTAURANT OR SERVICE USES.
SO IN REVIEWING THIS, WE REVIEWED THE PROPOSAL UNDER THREE KEY CRITERIA AREAS.
FIRST DUTIES COMPLY WITH THE INDIO GENERAL PLAN? SO THE INDIO GENERAL PLAN 2040 WAS ADOPTED IN SEPTEMBER 18TH, ON SEPTEMBER 18TH, 2019, AND IT ESTABLISHED A NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER LAND USING DESIGNATION, AND AS YOU CAN SEE HERE IT'S INTENDED FOR A MIX OF USES, BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL, SO IT DOES COMPLY WITH THE INTENT OF THAT LAND USE
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DESIGNATION.WE NEXT LOOKED AT A UNDER THE AUSPICES OF THE SPECIFIC PLAN.
THE SPECIFIC PLAN, AS YOU'RE WELL AWARE, IS A FORM OF ZONING, AND IN THIS INSTANCE THE SPECIFIC PLAN GOVERNING IN PROJECT SITE AS WELL AS THE REMAINDER OF THE PROPERTY, PLANNING AREA 1, HAS SPECIFIC LAND USE DEVELOPMENT AND DESIGN STANDARDS.
THE MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE IS A PERMITTED USE.
THERE'S NO EXTRAORDINARY REVIEW NEEDED FOR THAT.
THEY ARE PERMITTED UP TO 90 MULTI-FAMILY UNITS, HOWEVER, THEY'RE ONLY DOING 62, SO THEY'RE SUBSTANTIALLY BELOW THE NUMBER THAT THEY COULD HAVE PURSUED, AND I'M SURE THE APPLICANT WILL BE HAPPY TO EXPLAIN THAT AS NEEDED AS TO WHY THEY MADE THAT CHOICE.
AND THEN IN DOING -- WHEN WE DO THIS, WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS UNDER THE AUSPICES OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE, SPECIFICALLY THE DESIGN REVIEW PROVISIONS, AND SO AS WE LOOKED AT THE PLAN THAT THEY PRESENTED, AS WE LOOKED AT THE ZONING CONTROLS, AND THEN WE APPLIED THE DESIGN REVIEW CRITERIA, WE FOUND THAT THE PROJECT WAS COMPLIANT.
AND THEN FINALLY WE LOOKED AT UNDER THE AUSPICES OF CEQA, THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT, AND AS YOU MAY REMEMBER, THERE WAS A FAIRLY EXTENSIVELY ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW THAT WAS CONDUCT FOR THE SPECIFIC PLAN.
WHEN YOU REVIEWED PLANNING AREA 1 IN DECEMBER, AT THAT TIME IT WAS CONSISTENT.
THERE WAS NO SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES, NO INCREASES IN IMPACTS, AND SO NO ADDITIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS WAS NEEDED FOR THAT PROJECT.
WE MEDIA A SIMILAR FINDING HERE FOR THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PLANNING AREA 2.
AGAIN, SO SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES.
NO INCREASES IN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS.
SO NO ADDITIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS WAS NEEDED FOR THIS PROJECT.
SO WITH THAT, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING PLANNING COMMISSION CONSIDER ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION 1997.
IT'S IN YOUR PACKET AND IT'S THERE SO I WON'T READ IT IN FULL, BUT BASICALLY RESOLUTION 1997 WOULD CONDITIONALLY APPROVE THE DESIGN REVIEW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF PLANNING AREA 2 AS PROPOSED, AND AS DISCUSSED IN MY STAFF PRESENTATION.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS THE FINAL DECISION-MAKER ON THIS UNLESS IT'S APPEALED TO CITY COUNCIL, SO THIS IS AN INSTANCE WHERE SIMILAR TO PLANNING AREA 1 YOUR DECISION WOULD STAND UNLESS APPEALED.
AND WITH THAT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE COMMISSION MIGHT HAVE.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: THANK YOU, KEVIN.
>> COMMISSIONER FRANZ: THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
I LIKE THE WAY IT'S BEEN LAID OUT.
SO A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS SINCE OUR OLD COMMISSIONER CEJA IS NOT HERE.
I NEED TO ASK SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT HE WOULD HAVE NORMALLY ASKED, IN CASE HE'S WATCHING.
SO I COULDN'T TELL BASED ON THE PLANS WHERE THE EQUIPMENT IS GOING TO BE LIKE THE AIR CONDITIONERS, HOW WE'RE GOING TO SHIELD THEM SO THEY'RE NOT VISIBLE.
ARE THEY GOING TO BE ON THE ROOF, THAT KIND OF THING.
SO THAT WAS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS.
>> KEVIN SNYDER: SO I'M GOING TO DEFER THAT TO THE APPLICANT.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY WILL BE FULLY SCREENED AND THAT THERE WILL MOSTLY BE ROOFTOP BUT THE APPLICANT CAN CLARIFY THAT IN TERMS OF MY REVIEW OF THE MATERIALS.
LET ME SEE IF THERE WAS -- OH, MAYBE THIS IS FOR HIM, TOO, BUT THE WALL THAT RUNS ALONG THE RESIDENTS TO THE EAST, HOW TALL IS THAT WALL GOING TO BE?
>> KEVIN SNYDER: I BELIEVE IT IS 8 FEET.
>> COMMISSIONER FRANZ: 8 FEET.
>> KEVIN SNYDER: IT IS GOING TO BE 8 FEET.
AS YOU MAY RECALL, THERE WAS A DISCUSSION TO CONNECT THE CROSSINGS, AND THIS PORTION OF THE CITRUS PLAZA, THERE WILL BE A GATE PENETRATION.
OTHERWISE IT WILL BE AN 8-FOOT WALL.
>> COMMISSIONER FRANZ: HAS THAT GATE BEEN APPROVED BY -- THAT'S STILL PENDING.
>> KEVIN SNYDER: SO THE CROSSINGS SPECIFIC PLAN, THEY ARE MOVING FORWARD THE WITH PROJECT BUT THEY ARE NOT ANYWHERE ALONG WHERE THERE WOULD BE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS IN TERMS OF ANY APPROVALS, JOINT APPROVALS.
>> COMMISSIONER FRANZ: LET ME IF I HAD ANYTHING ELSE.
OTHERWISE I THINK MY OTHER ONES MIGHT BE FOR THE APPLICANT.
YEAH, I THINK THOSE ARE MY ONLY ONES THAT I THOUGHT STAFF MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER EASILY.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER FRANZ.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR DIRECTOR SNYDER?
>> COMMISSIONER FRANZ: WHAT ABOUT -- >> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: COMMISSIONER
RODRIGUEZ CEJA: NOTHING FOR STAFF.
>> CHAIRPERSON VALDEZ: I DO HAVE A QUICK QUESTION JUST BECAUSE I'M A LITTLE LATE, NOT LATE BUT I WASN'T PART OF THE PROJECT WHEN IT STARTED IN THE PLANNING.
THESE UNITS, ARE THEY GOING TO BE LIKE A TOWNHOME STYLE OR IS IT -- HOW IS THE LAYOUT FOR THE HOUSING?
>> KEVIN SNYDER: SO THEY'RE INTENDED TO BE MARKET RATE APARTMENTS.
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TWO-STORY MARKET RATE APARTMENTS WITH GARAGE SERVING ELEMENTS TO EACH UNIT.THE APPLICANT CAN FURTHER DESCRIBE THE PHYSICAL DESIGN OF THEM IN TERMS OF INTERIOR SPACE.
I DO BELIEVE THAT IN YOUR PLANS THAT WERE SUBMITTED, YOU ALSO HAVE THE FLOOR PLANS, BUT THEY ARE AS DESCRIBED TO ME AND AS I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT WILL REPRESENT WANT LEAST AT THIS TIME THEY'RE LOOKING AT THEM TO BE MARKET RATE APARTMENT UNITS.
>> CHAIRPERSON VALDEZ: AND ON THESE APARTMENTS, JUST FOR THE ENERGY EFFICIENCY, DO THEY -- THEY HAVE ANY KIND OF SOLAR OR -- WILL THEY HAVE ANY KIND OF SOLAR OR I'M NOT SURE -- I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY APARTMENTS WITH SOLAR BUT I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S -- I KNOW STARTING IN 2020 IT IS REQUIRED FOR ALL THE NEW HOMES TO HAVE SOLAR BUILT IN SO I WAS CURIOUS.
>> KEVIN SNYDER: I THINK THE APPLICANT CAN FURTHER ADDRESS THANK.
YOU ARE CORRECT WITH THE BUILDING CODE REQUIREMENTS SO THERE ARE CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS BASED ON TYPE OF UNITS FOR SOLAR, BUT I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT BECAUSE I DID POSE THAT QUESTION TO THEM, THEY CAN MORE FULLY DESCRIBE HOW THEY TEND INTENDED TO INTRODUCE SOLAR INTO THE PROJECT SITE.
>> CHAIRPERSON VALDEZ: AND I HAD ANOTHER QUESTION WHICH I'M NOT SURE IF IT WOULD BE FOR YOU OR THE APPLICANT BUT I WAS JUST CURIOUS AS TO HOW TALL EACH STORY WOULD BE.
I KNOW THE TOTAL, IT WAS A TOTAL OF 25 FEET BUT HOW TALL WILL EACH LEVEL BE? I'M JUST CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT THE LOWER LEVEL IS GOING TO MEASURE AND THEN THE SECOND LEVEL, WHAT THAT'S GOING TO MEASURE.
>> KEVIN SNYDER: I'LL DEFER TO THE APPLICANT, ALTHOUGH I BELIEVE THAT IN YOUR PLANS THERE ARE ACTUAL ELEVATIONS SHOWING THE DIFFERENT LINEAL FEET OF THE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS OF THE BUILDINGS, BUT THE APPLICANT PROBABLY CAN MORE QUICKLY ADDRESS THOSE AND ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, COMMISSIONER.
AND THEN AS FAR AS THE PARKING, I DID SEE THAT THERE IS A GARAGE ASSIGNED FOR EACH UNIT, AND THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE COVERED PARKING AS WELL, SO WILL THERE BE LIKE A ONE GARAGE AND ONE COVER FOR EACH RESIDENT? OR WILL THAT BE OPEN?
>> KEVIN SNYDER: SO MY UNDERSTANDING, AGAIN I'LL DEFER TO THE APPLICANT, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE COVERED PARKING WILL BE PRIMARILY SECONDARY PARKING FOR RESIDENTS, AND THEN THE UNCOVERED PARKING WOULD BE FOR GUESTS, BUT THE APPLICANT BE FURTHER CLARIFY THAT IF I MISSTATED IT.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER VALDEZ.
SO AT THIS TIME WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN THIS UP FOR PUBLIC HEARING.
SO THE APPLICANT, WOULD YOU PLEASE LIKE TO COME UP.
>> GOOD EVENING, MADAME COMMISSIONER, OTHER COMMISSIONERS.
WE'RE THE OWNER OF CITRUS PLAZA AS WELL THE DEVELOPER.
I DO WANT TO START BY THANKING EXPENSIVE HE'S BEEN FABULOUS TO WORK WITH.
I I'M REALLY GOING TO MISS ROSIE BECAUSE THE TWO OF THEM HAVE BEEN QUITE A TEAM.
SAY THAT BECAUSE IT'S BEEN THREE YEARS AND WE HAVE WORKED VERY, VERY HARD TOGETHER.
THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF THINGS THAT REQUIRED A LITTLE BIT OF COMPROMISE, BUT THE PROCESS HAS BEEN PRETTY FLUID AND I'M VERY PROUD OF THAT.
SO WITH THAT, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE'RE PRETTY DARN EXCITED RIGHT NOW.
YOU PROBABLY HAVE BEEN BY THE SITE.
WE WERE HOPING TO HAVE A REAL BIG GROUNDBREAKING FOR YOU ALL, BUT WE NEVER KNEW WHEN WE WERE GOING TO BREAK THE GROUND, AND THEN THE TEMPERATURE KEPT CLIMBING, AND THEN I WAS GOING TO HAVE MARK SCOTT THERE AND EVERYTHING CHANGED, SO WE ARE GOING TO, IF WE GET THROUGH WITH AT LEAST PHASE 1, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A STICKS IN THE AIR AND EVERYONE IS GOING TO GET TO COME.
WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WE'RE GOING CELEBRATE BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO BE A FUN PROJECT.
WE HAVE HAD A VERY, VERY EXCITING RESPONSE.
AS KEVIN KNOWS, WE DID A LOT OF THIS WITH NEIGHBORS SAYING, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT, AND WE'VE REALLY KIND OF RESPONDED TO THAT.
THERE'S SOME TENANTS COMING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO KNOW AND THEY ARE IN PARTICULAR ONE THAT'S A VERY WELL-KNOWN LOCAL TENANT THAT IS GOING TO BE, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A GOOD KICKOFF.
BUT THE DESIGN OF THE PROJECT, BACK TO WHEN WE WERE DOING THE SPECIFIC PLAN, AND A LOT OF IT WAS FROM THE INPUT FROM YOU, I REMEMBER SITTING RIGHT HERE.
NICCO, YOU WERE ALL ON IT, LET'S MAKE THIS THING A MULTI-USE, LET'S MAKE IT A LIFESTYLE, LET'S MAKE IT A VILLAGE.
AND I THINK WE'VE RESPONDED TO THAT.
KEVIN'S KIND OF GUIDED US ALL THE WAY THROUGH AS TO DESIGN ELEMENTS, ET CETERA.
IT IS NOT AS DENSE AS IT COULD BE.
I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT BECAUSE AT ONE TIME I BELIEVE WE HAD A SITE PLAN IN FRONT OF ALL OF YOU THAT WAS ABOUT 84 UNITS OR 90 UNITS, BUT IT LOOKED LIKE BARRACKS.
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IT HAD UNITS AND THERE WAS NO LIGHT, THERE WAS NOTHING.IT WOULD HAVE BEEN GREAT FROM AN ECONOMIC STANDPOINT IF YOU REALLY DIDN'T MIND THE FACT THAT IT WASN'T REALLY GOING TO BE A FUN PLACE TO LIVE IN.
THIS IS DESIGNED, AND I THINK SOME OF THE RENDERINGS SHOW YOU THAT, IF YOU CAN PICTURE COMING IN ITS PROMENADE WITH ALL THE DATE PALMS THAT WILL BE THERE AND CONNECTING FROM CITRUS WHICH WILL HAVE DATE PALMS THAT ARE ALREADY STARTING TO COME IN, IT'S DESIGNED TO KIND OF FLOW, AND WHEN YOU START THE CORNER WHERE YOU'RE ALMOST LOOKING AT RALPH'S, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE SITTING OUTSIDE, LARGE, LARGE PATIOS.
OUR PATIOS ARE SO BIG THAT -- AND THE TENANTS GET THEM FOR FREE BASICALLY.
GRANTED, THEY'RE PAYING A LITTLE MORE RENT PER SOFTWARE SQUARE FOOT BUT THEY'RE GOING TO BE SITTING OUT ON THESE BEAUTIFUL PATIOS THAT ARE INDOOR/OUTDOOR PATIOS, AND IF YOU PICTURE, BECAUSE ONE OF THE PICTURES SHOWS THAT YOU, THE PEOPLE IN THE APARTMENT THAT ARE SURROUNDING THAT, THEY CAN WALK OUT, THEY CAN TO GO RESTAURANTS.
THEY CAN JUMP OUT OF OF THE POOL AND GO SHOPPING.
THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT.
SO WE REALLY THINK IT'S GOING TO BE FUN.
WE THINK IT'S GOING TO FLOW WELL.
I WANT TO JUST ADDRESS A COUPLE OF THINGS.
BY THE WAY, MY ARCHITECT BILL SHARON WHO HAS BEEN WITH ME THE WHOLE WAY IS HERE, AND MY FAVORITE CONTRACTOR BILL SANCHEZ IS RIGHT BEHIND ME.
BILL HAS BEEN WITH ME FOR THREE YEARS AND HE HASN'T GOTTEN A PEN YET SO HE'S FINALLY GETTING HIS FIRST DRAW OUT OF.
BUT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS.
THEY CAN ANSWER THE TECHNICAL QUESTIONS AS TO WHERE THE AIR CONDITIONING UNITS ARE AND EVERYTHING BUT I THINK YOU'RE GOING FIND THEY'RE VERY, VERY EFFICIENT AND WELL-LOCATED.
FROM A PHYSICAL STANDPOINT, IT'S GOING TO BE A PRETTY NICE PROJECT FOR ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO GO THERE.
I'VE HEARD THAT PEOPLE SAY, WELL, WHY DIDN'T YOU BUILD A LOT MORE UNITS AND BUILD STUDIOS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
WE LOOKED AT THE MARKET AND WE SAID -- AND I HOPE I'M NOT GIVING AWAY MORE INFORMATION THAN YOU WANT, BUT YOU'VE GOT MAYBE MONTAGE COMING.
AND SOME OTHER THINGS THAT ARE GOING DOWN THE STREET.
AS YOU LOOK AT THAT AREA FROM A HELICOPTER, YOU GO, MY GOD, IT'S SITTING HERE IN GROUND ZERO.
THERE'S ALL OF THIS STUFF GOING ON.
BUT WE DO KNOW THAT THERE IS A TREMENDOUS DEMAND FOR PEOPLE TO GET INTO A UNIT WHERE EITHER THEY HAVE SOLD THEIR CONDOMINIUM OR A NICE SMALLER HOUSE, AND THEY'RE KIND OF DOWNSIZING AND THEY WANT TO LIVE IN A PLACE WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE TO DRIVE A LOT OR, MORE LIKELY THAN THAT, WE ARE PRETTY CERTAIN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF, WHAT I WOULD CALL -- I DON'T WANT TO USE THE WRONG TERM, BUT YOUNG PROFESSIONALS.
WE KNOW THAT MONTAGE IS GOING TO HIRE ABOUT 1,000 EMPLOYEES.
A LOT OF THOSE ARE GOING TO BE BOOKKEEPERS, JUNIOR BOOKKEEPERS, YOU KNOW, ALL SORTS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO NEED A PLACE TO BE HOUSED.
WE'RE LESS THAN A MILE AND A HALF FROM THAT.
AND HOPEFULLY THOSE PEOPLE NEVER GET IN A CAR.
SO IT IS DESIGNED TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO HAVE A PLACE TO LIVE THAT'S GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, AFFORDABLE.
I DON'T MEAN AFFORDABLE IN THE SENSE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY INEXPENSIVE, BUT THE NUMBERS CAN WORK OUT GOOD.
WE HAVE A FEELING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PRETTY FULL HOUSE QUICKLY.
WHAT WE WANT IS WE WANT THEM TO HAVE FUN.
WE WANT OUR TENANTS TO ENJOY THEM BEING THERE.
AND WHEN THAT'S ALL COMPLETED, YOU BASICALLY -- BETWEEN THE TWO PROJECTS YOU HAVE ABOUT 130,000 FEET OF RETAIL AND THEN YOU HAVE 62 UNITS, AND ON 20 ACRES THAT'S ALL YOU HAVE, AND IT SHOULD BE BEAUTIFUL, AND OBVIOUSLY I'M PROUD OF IT, BUT I'M EXCITED THAT I REALLY THINK IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ALL GOING TO CELEBRATE TOGETHER.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: THANK YOU.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND START WITH -- >> VICE CHAIR YSIANO: I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
THE 62 UNITS WITH THE SINGLE SPACE, ARE THOSE GARAGE SPACES?
>> VICE CHAIR YSIANO: DOUBLE THAT WITH THE 62 SPACES.
ANY THOUGHT OF COVERING MORE THAN THAT? MY COUNT THERE'S ONLY 18 OR 20 COVERED SPACES.
WE HAVEN'T -- LET'S PUT IT THIS WAY.
WE'VE GOT SOME AS TO WHAT THIS IS GOING TO COST AND THEN WE'VE GOT PRELIMINARY NUMBERS FOR WHAT IMPACT FEES AND EVERYTHING ARE AND IT BLEW US AWAY.
I MEAN, THE NUMBERS ARE STAGGERING.
WHETHER WE WOULD HAVE THE OPTION -- I BELIEVE WE HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO COME BACK TO YOU AND SAY, OKAY, WE'D LIKE TO DO MORE COVERED PARKING, AND THAT LEADS INTO THE QUESTION OF, WELL, WHY DON'T YOU DO SOLAR.
EVERYTHING IS SET UP SO THAT WE COULD SUBSEQUENTLY DO THAT.
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WE'RE NOT AT THE POINT YET WHERE WE HAVE STARTED OUR WORKING DRAWINGS FOR ANYTHING, BUT IT'S AN OPTION WE'RE GOING TO PRESERVE.IF IT MAKES SENSE, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.
I MEAN, THE IDEA OF HAVING COVERED CARPORTS WITH SOLAR IS A GREAT IDEA.
WHETHER OR NOT IT'S ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE, I DON'T KNOW.
THERE'S -- YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALREADY A LOT OF THINGS THAT YOU JUST HAVE TO DO JUST TO PRODUCE THE PROJECT.
BUT WE HAVEN'T ELIMINATED THAT.
AND WE DIDN'T GO, BY THE WAY, AS THE ALTERNATIVE TO THE BARE MINIMUM BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT IS HERE.
THERE'S SOMETIMES A DISADVANTAGE, I THINK, OF TOO MANY CARPORTS.
WHAT WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO DO, AND LEILA KNOWS BECAUSE SHE IS WORKING WITH THE CROSSINGS, I BELIEVE, THAT THEY'VE GOT A BIG PROJECT, AND WE HOPE TO REALLY INTERCONNECT THOSE PROJECTS.
THE MAN THAT'S THE DEVELOPER IS A FRIEND.
AND I THINK THAT THE IDEA IS TO NOT WALL OFF, YOU KNOW, HAVE SUCH A DEMARCATION BETWEEN THE PROJECTS BECAUSE THERE'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF COMPATIBILITY.
OBVIOUSLY, THERE ARE A LOT OF CUSTOMERS FOR OUR RESTAURANTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, AND WE WILL -- WE HOPE TO HAVE THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE PROJECTS.
IF IT WERE ALL JUST CARPORTS, IT STARTS TO LOOK -- I THINK IT LOOKS A LITTLE TOO MUCH, BUT I CAN'T TELL YOU WE WON'T BECAUSE YOU DO HAVE THE OPEN SPACES TO DO IT.
>> NO, I UNDERSTAND WANTING TO KIND OF LET THEM BLEND TOGETHER AND HAVE SOME CONNECTABILITY, BUT I THINK THE TENANTS PROBABLY WOULD APPRECIATE IT AND THEIR GUESTS.
I DON'T SEE MANY ADVANTAGES TO HAVING MORE COVERED PARKING OUT IN THE DESERT, ESPECIALLY THIS TIME OF YEAR.
ONE QUESTION WAS -- LOOKS LIKE ON SOME OF THE ELEVATIONS, THE SECOND STORY
HAS, IS THAT LIKE A 14, 15-FOOT TALL WINDOW OR IS THAT -- >> VICE CHAIR YSIANO: IT'S PRETTY BIG, AND IT'S A BIG BALCONY.
AND IT'S HISTORICALLY WHAT YOU WOULD NEVER DO THIS, BUT NOWADAYS EVERYBODY, THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE -- I HATE TO KEEP REFERRING TO WHAT THE PANDEMIC TAUGHT US ALL, BUT EVERYBODY WANTS THEIR HOME TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST A GROUND FLOOR PLACE WHERE THEY CAN GO OUTSIDE, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT GETS A LITTLE BIT COOLER, BUT THE UPSTAIRS, IT'S A PRETTY BIG PATIO, AND THE THING THAT I WANT YOU TO FOCUS ON IS YOU'VE GOT TWO BEDROOM, TWO BATH UNITS, AND THEY'RE BIG, MUCH BIGGER THAN ANYTHING THAT I'M AWARE OF AROUND HERE, AND WE EXAMINED PRETTY MUCH EVERY APARTMENT COMPLEX.
BUT THE ONES THAT ARE REALLY BIG ARE THE ONE-BEDROOM, ONE-DEN.
THOSE ARE INTERESTING BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF WHAT, LET'S JUST SAY, A YOUNGER PROFESSIONAL WANTS.
THEY EITHER CAN HAVE A ROOMMATE IN THE DEN, OR, MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT'S THEIR DEN/OFFICE, WHATEVER, AND THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS SUBSTANTIALLY BIGGER THAN WHAT YOU SEE IN AN AVERAGE UNIT.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: THANK YOU.
IN YOUR MARKET STUDY WHAT WAS THE BALLPARK COST FOR THESE TYPES OF UNITS?
>> WHAT IS THE COST PER SQUARE FOOT?
NOT A FUNNY QUESTION, BUT EVERYBODY TALKS ABOUT WHAT A PER SQUARE FOOT COST IS.
YOU MEAN THE COST ALL IN WITH THE LAND AND ALL THE SOFT COSTS? THAT, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, IS ABOUT -- HOLD ONTO YOUR HATS -- $317,000 PER UNIT.
NOW, IS THAT ALL JUST THE HARD COSTS? IT IS EVERYTHING.
IT'S THE COST OF THE CONSTRUCTION.
IT'S THE COST -- AND THE LAND IS IN AT A REDUCED AMOUNT BECAUSE WE BIFURCATED IT AND PUSHED SOME OF THE LAND COSTS TO RETAIL.
BUT BY THE TIME YOU GET DONE WITH THE PERMIT COSTS AND ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THAT'S WHAT IT COSTS.
SO IT'S $20 MILLION FOR 62 UNITS.
DOES THAT -- I DON'T KNOW WHO I'M TALKING TO.
YEAH, I GUESS I'M MORE INTERESTED, I GUESS THE QUESTION REALLY IS IS THIS SORT OF LIKE A CONDOMINIUM THAT IS UP FOR SALE OR THIS IS A RENTAL PROJECT? AND THEN WHAT WOULD BE A BALLPARK COST FOR THE INDIVIDUAL WHO WANTS TO MOVE IN THERE?
LET'S GO BACK TO IS IT A CONDOMINIUM.
WE FIRST STARTED LOOKING AS IT BECAUSE WHEN THE NUMBERS OF GET TOUGH, YOU START
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LOOKING AS A FOR-SALE COMPLEX.I FEEL LIKE IT WAS A LITTLE -- IT IS NOT OUR INTENTION TO MAP IT, WHETHER WE DO IT AT A LATER DATE, YOU HAVE TO DO SOME OTHER THINGS, BUT 62 UNITS IS NOT REALLY.
>> THAT BIG OF A COMPLEX TO DO WHAT WE WANT TO DO.
WE WANT PEOPLE TO HAVE A PLACE WHERE IN A WAY THEY DIDN'T BUY A PLACE BECAUSE THEY WANT TO RENT A NICE UNIT, AND SO IT IS NOT OUR INTENTION AT THIS POINT TO, YOU KNOW, REALLY LOOK AT THAT COMPARABILITY.
WHAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IS WE HAVE TO BE CONSCIOUS, I THINK THIS MAY GO TO YOUR, I THINK TO THE OTHER PART OF YOUR QUESTION IS, WELL, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO RENT THESE THINGS FOR, BECAUSE IF THE RENT IS SOMEWHERE EQUIVALENT TO WHAT SOMEBODY COULD BUY AN EQUIVALENT UNIT, THAT'S AN ISSUE.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT THERE PROBABLY ARE SOME PLACES WHERE YOU COULD BUY A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE THAT MIGHT NOT BE MUCH MORE THAN THIS.
I MEAN, I'VE SEEN THEM IN THE $500,000 RANGE, WHATEVER.
BUT WE COULD TRY AND MAKE THIS LESS EXPENSIVE AND ASK FOR LESS RENT, BUT THEN IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK BEING SOMETHING THAT'S, QUITE FRANKLY, YOU KNOW THIS, IT'S YOUR GATEWAY IN INDIO.
YOU'VE GOT -- WE ARE SURROUNDED BY DESERT RIVER ESTATES, AND THEY DON'T WANT A BUNCH OF, YOU KNOW, LESSER UNITS, SO WE'VE TRIED TO CATER TO WHAT THE NEIGHBORS THERE ACROSS THE STREET AT RENAISSANCE AND EVERYWHERE ELSE.
SO WE THINK IT'S AN APARTMENT COMPLEX.
PROBABLY A LOT OF THOSE PEOPLE THERE ARE GOING TO BE RELATIVES OF THE PEOPLE IN THE AREA.
THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
RODRIGUEZ CEJA: YEAH, IT DOES.
AND THEN I JUST HAD ANOTHER QUESTION IN REGARDS TO THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.
IT LOOKS LIKE THAT COMMON AREA, THAT POOL AREA, TO BE HONEST, IT'S A LITTLE CONCERNING THAT THERE ISN'T AS MUCH OF A GREEN SPACE.
WOULD YOU CONSIDER MORE OF THESE GREEN SPACES FOR THE FOLKS THAT WOULD BE MOVING IN THERE AND NOT JUST THIS POOL AREA? OR WHAT ARE THOSE COMMON AREAS? I ONLY SEE ONE COMMON AREA ON THE SITE MAP.
IT'S UNUSUAL TO HAVE THAT MUCH COMMON AREA IN A POOL.
WE'RE NOT CERTAIN, BY THE WAY, THAT WE'RE GOING TO -- AND I DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT SOUND LIKE I'M BACKTRACKING ON ANYTHING, BUT WE HAVEN'T BID THIS THING OUT, AND I'M SURE WE'RE IN FOR SOME EVEN WILDER ANSWERS.
FOR INSTANCE, IT SHOWS A WHAT STARTED OFF AS A TENNIS COURT, AND WE SAID NOBODY WANTS A TENNIS COURT, SO WE PUT IN FOR A RACQUETBALL COURT -- I MEAN, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? -- PICKLEBALL.
THE POOL THAT YOU SEE THERE MAY NOT BE, SEMI CIRCLE, WE DON'T KNOW, BUT YOU'LL ALSO SEE THAT THERE'S A COMMON -- WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? NO, NO, THE BIG COMMON AREA ROOM.
THAT IS PRETTY LARGE FOR WHAT WE'RE DOING BECAUSE IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE SOME FITNESS EQUIPMENT IN THERE AND EVERYTHING ELSE, SO I DON'T KNOW, IT MAY BE MUCH BIGGER THAN YOU ARE SEEING SCALE-WISE BUT THAT'S TAKING UP A LOT OF AREA.
WE COULD HAVE JUST OMITTED ALL OF IT AND JUST PUT MORE UNITS IN BECAUSE NOBODY HAS TO HAVE A POOL, BUT THE PEOPLE THAT WE WANT TO HAVE THERE, WE WANT THEM TO STAY THERE AND ENJOY IT, AND, YOU KNOW, IT -- I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE FLIPPING ANY BUILDINGS AT THIS POINT, BUT THIS IS PRETTY MUCH SOMETHING THAT WE THINK WORKS.
YET THE RENDERING YOU SAW I THINK WAS A RECTANGULAR POOL.
I'M NOT SURE WHICH ONE THIS WAS.
WE'VE HAD -- THIS IS PROBABLY THE 30TH SITE PLAN THAT WE DID, AND I THINK THIS IS PRETTY MUCH IT.
SO I HOPE YOU DON'T HOLD ME TO EVERYTHING THAT'S THERE.
AND WE'RE GOING TO -- AND SPEAKING OF LANDSCAPING, IT'S GOING TO BE GORGEOUS BECAUSE WE WENT AND WE'VE ALREADY BOUGHT ALMOST ALL THE, THEIRUL PALMS, THEY'RE GOING TO GO ALL THE WAY DOWN THE PROMENADE, THEY'RE GOING TO GO BETWEEN THE RETAIL UNITS AND THESE BUILDINGS, AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO GO AROUND THE APARTMENTS, AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ALL OF THE OTHER TYPES OF SHRUBBERY THAT YOU SEE.
IT'S GOING TO BE DETER FRIENDLY.
BUT IT'S GOING TO BE -- DESERT FRIENDLY.
REMEMBER, THE NAME OF THE PROJECT -- I WANT YOU TO ALL GET USED TO IT -- IS CANOPY, AND THE REGION FOR THAT IS IT'S A CANOPY.
ALL THESE TREES ARE DESIGNED TO KIND OF REACH IN AND PUT YOU INTO THE FOLD, WHETHER
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YOU THINK IT'S A CORNY NAME OR NOT, IT SEEMS LIKE IT WILL WORK, AND THIS WILL PROBABLY BE THE RESIDENCES WITH THE CANOPY.BUT IT'S GOING TO HAVE MUCH MORE LANDSCAPING THAN CERTAINLY IS REQUIRED.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER?
RODRIGUEZ CEJA: NOTHING FOR ME.
JUST THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD RAISED EARLIER.
I'M CURIOUS TO HEAR THOSE ANSWERS.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: COMMISSIONER FRANZ.
>> COMMISSIONER FRANZ: I REALLY LIKE THE DESIGN.
I THINK THAT YOU REALLY WENT OUT OF YOUR WAY TO CREATE A BEAUTIFUL ADDITION TO THAT LITTLE PART OF OUR WORLD SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.
I MAY HOLD TO YOU MOST OF THE STUFF BECAUSE I REALLY LIKE IT, SO JUST SO YOU KNOW THAT.
MY BIG QUESTION AGAIN IS THE -- HOW ARE YOU GOING TO SCREEN ALL OF THIS EQUIPMENT.
SO WHERE IS IT GOING TO SIT? HOW IS IT GOING TO BE NOT VISIBLE FROM THE STREET?
>> MY ARTIST/ARCHITECT WILL MAKE YOU FEEL VERY GOOD.
>> CHAIRPERSON FRANZ: THANK YOU.
>> EVERY TIME HE SPEAKS, IT COSTS ME MORE MONEY.
>> COMMISSIONER FRANZ: OH, MY GOD.
>> WILLIAM SHARON, SHARON ARCHITECTURE IN PALM DESERT AND SAN DIEGO.
THERE WILL BE SOME ROOF HELP MOUNTED UNITS DEPENDING ON WHAT'S CLOSEST TO THE UNIT.
IT WILL BE A SPLIT SYSTEM SO THERE WILL BE A CONDENSER LOCATED EITHER ON THE GROUND OR IN AN ENCLOSED AREA, CLOSE TO EACH INDIVIDUAL PATIOS OR IT WILL EITHER BE ON THE ROOF AND IT WILL ALSO BE SCREENED.
WE HAVEN'T DONE THE FINAL DESIGN AND ALL THAT YET.
WE'RE STILL WORKING ON IT RIGHT NOW, BUT WE KNOW THAT THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE SCREENED.
YOU'RE FOR THE GOING TO BE STARING AT THE -- >> COMMISSIONER FRANZ: SO YOU WON'T ABLE TO SEE ANYTHING WHEN YOU DRIVE BY.
>> COMMISSIONER FRANZ: JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE.
AND SINCE I HAVE YOU UP HERE I DON'T WANT YOU TO HAVE TO GET UP AGAIN DEFICIENT MIGHT COST MORE MONEY.
THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD IS COLORS ARE HARD TO SEE.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT A COLOR ON THE SCREEN IT'S ONE COLOR.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT ON THE SHEETS IT'S A DIFFERENT COLOR.
MY QUESTION IS ON THE MAIN STRUCK STUCCO AREAS ARE OH REALLY GRAY GRAY OR THEY GRAY TAUPE.
I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHICH ONE IT WAS.
>> PRETTY SOON IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE ALL THE COLORS.
>> >> CHAIRPERSON FRANZ: FOR PHASE 1.
ON THE COMPOSITE WOOD SIDING, YOU KEEP MENTIONING OUR HEAT.
SO I'M ASSUMING THIS IS RATED FOR OUR KIND OF HEAT AND IT ISN'T GOING TO FADE
OR WRAPPER OR -- >> NO, IN FACT IT'S COMPOSITE REAL PRODUCT WHICH MEANS IT'S NOT A REAL WOOD PRODUCT.
THE OLDER BUILDINGS BUILT IN THE '70S OR '80S, THAT IS REAL WOOD.
>> COMMISSIONER FRANZ: THAT THEY GET UGLY AFTER A WHILE SO THIS SHOULD LAST.
WE LOVE LIVING IN OUR DESERT WITH THE SUN AND THE LIGHTS.
WE ASSUME THIS IS ALL RATED FOR HEAT AND WILL BE RIGHT BACK KEEPING THE HEAT OUT AND NOT RAISE 10 ELECTRIC BILLS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
>> IT WILL BE ALL DUAL GLAZED.
AND ALSO IF YOU LOOK AT THEM THE WAY ALL THE BIG PIECES OF GLASS, ESPECIALLY, ARE I OBJECT INSET IN THAT RECTANGLE SO THERE'S SOME PROTECTION THERE.
THERE'S A CLEAR STORY ON THE BACK SIDE FOR THE UPPER UNITS, AND IT'S RECESSED AS WELL SO THERE WAS SOME THOUGHT GIVEN TO THAT.
>> COMMISSIONER FRANZ: PERFECT.
>> SOMEBODY ASKED ABOUT THE HEIGHTS, AND I LOOKED IT UP.
IT'S GOING TO BE 9'6", ALL THE ROOMS IN THE LOWER UNITS WILL BE 9'6".
THEN THE UPPER UNITS WILL BE EITHER 9'6" OR 1'16" IF YOU'RE IN THAT LIVING ROOM HEAR THAT POPS UP.
HAS THE CONVERSATION TAKEN PLACE WITH THE HOMEOWNERS BEHIND? WOULD THEY PREFER A HIGHER WALL OR IS THIS JUST STANDARD? I MEAN, I'M JUST ASKING IF THE CONVERSATION HAS TAKEN PLACE.
>> WE WERE APPROVED FOR 6 FEET IN THE SPECIFIC PLAN.
AND SOMEBODY ASKED ABOUT THE GATE, AND WE DO HAVE A GATE THAT LINES UP WITH ONE OF THEIR WALKWAYS.
>> SO HOPEFULLY THEY'LL APPROVE THAT.
AND IF NOT WE CAN PUT IN IT DIFFERENT PLACES.
>> I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT BUT IT'S UP TO THE HOMEOWNERS IF THEY WANT THAT ACCESS POINT OR NOT.
I THINK THAT WAS -- >> OH, THE QUESTION ABOUT THE SOLAR.
ALL OF THE UNITS WILL BE DESIGNED TO ACCEPT SOLAR ON THE ROOF OR EVEN BUILDING AND THE SWITCH GEAR, SO IT WILL BE EASY TO ADD ON LATER.
IT WON'T BE TOO MUCH OF AN ADDITIONAL COST EXCEPT FOR THE PANELS THEMSELVES BUT WILL IT NOT BE INSTALLED SOLAR AT THE BEGINNING.
>> SO IT'S SOLAR READY BUT IT WON'T BE PART OF THIS.
>> COMMISSIONER FRANZ: ALSO I THINK THE COVERED PARKING IS IMPORTANT.
I DO UNDERSTAND THAT WANTING IT TO LOOK LIKE SO ENCLOSED, SO JUST KEEP AN EYE ON THAT AND SEE IF THEY CAN DO A LITTLE MORE COVERED PARKING.
IT'S PRETTY MUCH PRICELESS OUT HERE THIS TIME OF THE YEAR.
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OTHER THAN THAT I THINK IT'S VERY NICE.>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER FRANZ.
>> CHAIRPERSON VALDEZ: I JUST HAVE A REALLY QUICK QUESTION ON THE AIR CONDITIONING.
I KNOW YOU MENTIONED IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING TO COVER AND MAKE IT LOOK NICE, WHETHER IT'S ON THE GROUND LEVEL OR ON THE ROOF, ABOUT IT KNOW THAT WHEN THERE'S UNITS ON THE ROOF AND THERE ISN'T ANYTHING PROTECTING IT, THERE CAN BE A LITTLE MORE WEAR AND TEAR ON THE AC UNITS, SO DO YOU GUYS HAVE SOMETHING IN MIND TO MAYBE SHIELD AND IT PUT SOME SHADING OVER IT JUST TO KIND OF HELP WITH THE WEAR AND TEAR ON IT?
>> ACTUALLY, WE'RE IN DISCUSSIONS ON THIS RIGHT NOW, AND THAT IS EXACTLY ONE OF THE ITEMS, WHY THE MECHANICAL ENGINEER DOESN'T WANT TO PUT THEM ON THE ROOF, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO SAVE SOME OF THE SPACE DOWN BELOW SO THAT YOU DO NOT NECESSARILY HAVE TO LOOK AT A LOT OF -- EACH ONE OF THOSE BUILDINGS WILL HAVE 12, REQUIRE 12 CONDENSER UNITS SO WE'RE TRYING TO PUT SOME OF THEM ON THE ROOF.
WE WILL HAVE SCREENING ON THEM.
WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT AN OVERHEAD COVER LIKE FOR SHADE BUT IT WILL HAVE PERIMETER SHADING THAT'LL BE PROVIDED BY THE SCREEN.
>> CHAIRPERSON VALDEZ: AND I'M NOT SUGAR VISITING ON THE ROOF, THAT WOULD CREATE MORE ISSUES AS FAR AS LEAKS IF THERE'S A CONDENSATION OR A LINE THAT CLOGS UP, IF THAT WOULD CAUSE ANY ADDITIONAL LEAKS.
>> NO, OTHERS ALL THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
WE'RE PLANNING USING A SINGLE-APPLY ROOF THAT WILL BE A WELDED WHITE ROOF SO IT WILL REFLECT THE SUN, AND ALSO TO ME THAT'S ONE OF THE BEST ROADS OF PREVENTING LEAKS IN THE FIRST PLACE.
IT'S A FLAT ROOF SO THE WATER WILL GO OFF THE SLIDES BUT IT'S BUILT LIKE A SWIMMING POOL AT THE END OF THE DAY.
>> CHAIRPERSON VALDEZ: I KNOW SOMETIMES WITH THE MULTI-LEVEL UNITS AND THE LEAKS CAN CAUSE A NIGHTMARE.
SO JUST WANTED TO ASK ON THAT.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER VALDEZ.
ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM?
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: I'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND START WITH -- >> >> KEVIN SNYDER: CHAIR, COULD I MAKE ONE STATEMENT BEFORE THE COMMISSION ANY WANTED TO CLARIFY SOMETHING MR. LICHT ARE SAID EARLIER.
I JUST WANT TO REMIND THE APPLICANT AND ANYONE WATCHING THAT WHILE THERE IS SOME MINIMAL FLEXIBILITY AND N.
WHEN WE REVIEW PLANS THAT ARE SUBMITTED AGAINST THE APPROVAL OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MIGHT HAVE, THERE IS A LIMIT ON THAT, AND SO IF THERE ARE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES THAT THE APPLICANT WISHES TO MAKE, DEPENDING ON THE DEGREE OF THOSE CHANGES, THEY MAY HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THE COMMISSION'S CONSIDERATION, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, WHILE WE TRY TO BE UNDERSTANDING THAT SOME THINGS COULD CHANGE, THERE IS ALSO AN EXPECTATION THAT THEY WILL GENERALLY FOLLOW WHAT THE COMMISSION, THE CONSTRUCTION WILL GENERALLY FOLLOW WHAT THE COMMISSION APPROVES.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: THANK YOU, DIRECTOR SNYDER.
AT THIS POINT WE'LL GO AHEAD AND DO DECLARATIONS.
>> CHAIRPERSON VALDEZ: I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.
BACK TO THE SOLAR AGAIN, I KNOW YOU -- >> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: I HAVE TO OPEN UP THE
PUBLIC COMMENT -- I MEAN PUBLIC -- >> KEVIN SNYDER: IF THE QUESTION IS TO BE REFERRED TO THE APPLICANT, THE CHAIR WOULD HAVE ON REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING IN ORDER TO RECEIVE THE TESTIMONY.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: IS THIS QUESTION TO THE APPLICANT?
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.
>> CHAIRPERSON VALDEZ: MY APOLOGIES.
JUST TO REFERENCE BACK TO THE SOLAR, I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THAT THE PROPERTY WILL BE READY TO INSTALL THE SOLAR, BUT ONCE THE SOLAR IS INSTALLED, WHO -- HOW IS THAT EXPENSE DISBURSED? DOES THAT FALL BACK ON THE TENANT OR IS THAT A COST THAT'S ABSORBED BY THE OWNER? AND EVEN FOR THE COMMON AREAS, HAVE YOU GUYS CONSIDERED DOING SOLAR FOR THE COMMON AREAS AND JUST WAITING ON THE SOLAR FOR THE OTHER UNITS? FOR THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS? IS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION FOR THAT?
>> THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO ONLY BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE TO FINISH EXACTLY, YOU KNOW, THE DRAWINGS SO WE KNOW WE CAN BID IT.
I'M NOT TRYING TO DEFLECT THE ANSWER TO THAT, BUT WE'RE KIND OF USED TO TRYING TO MAKE OUR TENANTS AND OUR OWNERS HAVE VERY -- KEEP IT AS TIGHT AS IT CAN BE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMMON AREA COSTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT WHO WOULD BENEFIT FROM THE SOLAR UNITS ON THE ROOF, THAT'S KIND OF A FINANCIAL DECISION BECAUSE IF SOMEONE CAME ALONG, LET'S SAY THAT THE GOVERNMENT SAYS, WELL, WE'VE GOT A SPECIAL PROGRAM, WE WANT YOU TO PUT IN ALL SOLAR.
THEN WE WOULD BE THE ONES THAT WOULD OWE THE MONEY TO THE GOVERNMENT.
WE WOULD TRY AND FIGURE OUT HOW THAT BENEFITS THE TENANTS.
REMEMBER, RIGHT NOW THEY'RE GOING TO PAY THEIR OWN UTILITIES.
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THEY'VE GOT THEIR OWN METER.SO IF THERE'S WAY TO MAKE IT BENEFICIAL TO THEM AND BENEFICIAL TO THE KIND OF THE FINANCIAL MATRIX, WE'RE GOING TO DO IT.
WE'RE NOT -- WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE IN THE BUSINESS OF TRYING TO PUT IN SOLAR, MARK UP THE COST, AND THEN TRY AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN MAKE THE NEXT BUCK.
IF IT'S GOING TO BENEFIT THEM AND IT'S GOING TO WORK FOR US, WE'LL DO IT IN A HEARTBEAT, BUT THAT'S -- I'M THINKING ABOUT ALL THAT OF RIGHT NOW IS, IT'S A LITTLE BIT BEYOND WHERE WE ARE IN THE ACTUAL DESIGN BECAUSE THERE'S WEIGHT CONSIDERATIONS, ALTHOUGH I THINK WE CAN SUPPORT IT.
WE DON'T REALLY KNOW ALL THE ANSWERS QUITE YET.
>> CHAIRPERSON VALDEZ: THANK YOU.
AND BY THE WAY, KEVIN, I UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE I GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? ALL RIGHT.
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND START WITH QUESTIONS.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND START WITH COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ CEJA.
RODRIGUEZ CEJA: YEAH, I THINK I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE COMMON AREAS, BUT THE PROJECT SEEMS LIKE A GOOD PROJECT FOR THE CITY AND I LIKE THAT IT'S REALLY BRINGING SOME DIVERSIFYING OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR HOUSING IN THAT PARTICULAR REGION.
THAT GIANT POOL REALLY IS A CONCERN.
IT'S ALMOST AS BIG AS THAT COMMON ROOM, AND I WISH THAT WE WOULD HAVE THAT LITTLE PARK OFF TO THE SIDE A LITTLE EXTENDED.
BUT I CAN SEE THAT THEY PUT IN SOME THOUGHT TO THAT DESERT LANDSCAPE AND, YEAH, OVERALL I THINK THE PROJECT IS GOOD.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: THANK YOU.
>> CHAIRPERSON VALDEZ: REQUEST I'M ALSO EXCITED ABOUT THE PROJECT.
I THINK THAT YOU GUYS DID A GREAT JOB WITH THE DESIGNING AND MAKING EVERYTHING KIND OF -- I DON'T WANT TO SAY MATCH, BUT JUST KIND OF FLOW TOGETHER, AND I'M EXCITED, SO CONGRATULATIONS.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER VALDEZ.
>> COMMISSIONER FRANZ: NO, I THINK THEY ANSWERED ALL MY QUESTIONS.
I THINK THEY'VE WORKED REALLY HARD TO COME IN WITH A VERY INTERESTING AND DIFFERENT DESIGN.
I THINK IT WILL FIT IN VERY NICELY IN THAT PART OF OUR CITY, SO I WANT TO THANK THEM FOR BRINGING A QUALITY PROJECT TO OUR CITY.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER FRANZ.
>> VICE CHAIRPERSON YSIANO: ALSO I'M A BIG FAN OF THE DESIGN.
I LOVE THE WALKABILITY AND THE CONNECTIVITY WITH THE ADJACENT COMMUNITIES, THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES, AND THE COMMERCIAL PROJECTS NEARBY, SO I LIKE IT.
I WOULD AGAIN ECHO I THINK MORE COVERED PARTICLE WOULD BE VERY BENEFICIAL.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: THANK YOU.
I HAVE TO SAY AGAIN IT'S A BEAUTIFUL DESIGN AND IT'S A MUCH NEEDED MARKET.
WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A LOT OF MARKET RATE APARTMENTS IN THE CITY OF INDIO, SO AGAIN, I WILL JUST THANK YOU FOR YOUR PROJECT, AND I GUESS I CAN GO AHEAD AND ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.
>> I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 1997, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF INDIO, CALIFORNIA, CANDLE PROVING DESIGN REVIEW 21-04-488 TO LUOL THE SITE PLAN CIRCULATION ARCHITECTURE, LANDSCAPE AND SIGNAGE FOR EIGHT TWO-STORY BUILDINGS STRUCTURES CONSISTING OF 62 MULTI-FAMILY UNITS, A COMMUNITY POOL, RECREATIONAL FACILITIES, COVERED AND UNCOVERED PARKING ON THE REMAINING 3.38 ACRES OF PLANNING AREA 2 OF CITRUS II, GENERALLY LOCATED EAST OF JEFFERSON AND 700 FEET NORTH OF AVENUE 50, SUBJECT TO FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL THEREIN AND DETERMINING THAT THE PROJECT DOES NOT REQUIRE ADDITIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW PER CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: THANK YOU.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
>> COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ CEJA.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: THANK YOU.
[8.2 Indio Marketplace (AKA Fashion Mall) – Design Review 20-04-486]
NEXT PUBLIC HEARING ITEM 8.2, INDIO MARKETPLACE, AKA INDIO FASHION MALL, DESIGN REVIEW 20-04-486.>> LEILA NAMVAR: GOOD EVENING, MADAME CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, I'M LEILA NAMVAR, SENIOR PLANNER WITH THE CITY OF INDIO.
AS YOU MENTIONED, THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH I'M ASSUMING THE PRESENTATION WILL BE -- DO I DO IT? YEAH?
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OKAY.>> KEVIN SNYDER: LEILA IS LEARNING HOW TO DRIVE AGAIN TOO.
>> LEILA NAMVAR: I'M A GOOD DRIVER.
IT IS INDIO MARKETPLACE, AS YOU KNOW, PREVIOUSLY KNOWN AS FASHION MALL.
THIS IS PROPOSING A DESIGN REVIEW.
SO THIS IS, THE RED LINE IS BASICALLY THE PERIMETER OF THE AREA THAT THE APPLICANT IS GOING TO REMODEL AND RENOVATE OR REDEVELOP, AND THE BOTTOM PART IS THE CURRENT VIEW OF THE MALL FROM HIGHWAY 111.
AS YOU KNOW, THE MALL WAS BUILT IN '70S.
IN 2006 THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED A SPECIFIC PLAN FOR THIS AREA.
HIGHWAY 111 SPECIFIC PLAN, WHICH CURRENTLY IS THE ZONING GOVERNING THE PROJECT SITE.
THE GENERAL PLAN DESIGNATION FOR THE SITE IS MIDTOWN.
THIS IS THE SITE PLAN AS THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO DEVELOP, SO THE BUILDING IS THE SAME.
IT'S GOING TO BE INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR RENOVATION AND REMODEL, ADDING TO THE SOUTH OF THE MALL PROPERTY SOME OUTDOOR AREAS, OPENING THIS AREA WHICH USED TO BE THE GOTTSCHALKS, SO THERE WILL BE A SITUATION BETWEEN THE EAST AND WEST OF THE MALL.
ALSO, AS YOU SEE HERE, THE ENTRANCE TO IN AND OUT WILL BE IMPROVED AND ENHANCED, SO WE WON'T HAVE THAT TRAFFIC PROBLEM GOING INTO THE MALL WHICH CURRENTLY, IF YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO IN-N-OUT, WHICH I DO EVERY DAY, YOU PROBABLY HAVE EXPERIENCED THAT.
THIS SHOWS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN FOR THE MALL.
AS A SAID, THE SOUTH PORTION WOULD BE OUTDOOR SEATING, SO IT'S DATE PALMS AND SHADE TREES FOR THAT AREA IN ADDITION TO SHADE THEY ARE PROVIDING BY STRUCTURES.
THAT SHOWS THE LANDSCAPE PALETTE WHICH ALSO INCLUDES PURPLE LANTANA IN ADDITION TO THE YELLOW LANTANA AND ALSO DATE PALMS, SO IT'S A DESERT FRIENDLY LANDSCAPE PALETTE.
THESE ARE THE ELEVATIONS OF THE -- THESE ARE THE PROPOSED ELEVATIONS.
AS YOU SEE, THEY ARE DOING A MODERN ELEVATION, COLORFUL, AND USING DESERT ELEMENTS THROUGH THE THE BUILDING.
THIS IS THE MATERIAL THAT WILL BE USED, AGAIN, WOOD SIDING, METAL FINISHES AND PLASTERS, BRIGHT COLORS.
SOME CLOSE-UP OF THE ELEVATIONS TIME GOING TO GO THROUGH FAST.
AND IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I CAN STOP.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTION 2001.
HOWEVER, I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION THAT THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED TO US.
>> LEILA NAMVAR: NO, I CAN GIVE IT TO YOU.
>> WHATEVER WAY YOU LIKE, I'M HAPPY TO.
>> LEILA NAMVAR: SO I'LL LET MR. FAHEY WALK YOU THROUGH.
SO WITH MY PRESENTATION, STAFF IS ACTUALLY RECOMMENDING THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVES RESOLUTION 2001, AND THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW NEEDED TO BE DONE FOR THIS PROJECT WHICH ONLY WAS ON THE EAST, A REMODEL AND A RENOVATION OF AN EXISTING SHOPPING MALL, AND THEY ARE NOT DOING THAT, ADDING ANY ADDITIONAL BUILDINGS.
THAT CONCLUDES MY STAFF REPORT AND PRESENTATION.
I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
THE APPLICANT TEAM IS ALSO HERE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: THANK YOU, LEILA.
WE HAVE -- WE PROVIDED YOU WITH A MEMO FOR THE CONDITIONS THAT NEED TO BE DELETED.
I'M JUST GOING QUICKLY SAY THE NUMBERS.
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NUMBER, CONDITION NUMBERS 13, 14, 35, AND 63 NEEDS TO BE DELETED FROM THE STAFF REPORT, AND THEN CONDITION NUMBER 13, 34, 61, 62 AND 63 WILL BE DELETED FROM RESOLUTION 2001, SO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION 2001 WITH THESE DELETED CONDITIONS.AND THE MEMO WAS SENT TO PLANNING COMMISSION AND ALSO WAS POSTED ONLINE AND WAS SHARED WITH THE APPLICANT AS WELL.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: THANK YOU.
ANY COMMISSION QUESTIONS OF STAFF? SEEING THAT THERE ARE NONE, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM.
AND IF THE APPLICANT CAN PLEASE COME UP.
>> GOOD EVENING, MADAME CHAIRPERSON AND COMMISSIONERS.
I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE HAGAN COMPANY, OUR LOS ANGELES OFFICE.
MOST OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE HAGAN COMPANY BEING INVOLVED WITH THE EMPIRE POLO FIELDS.
WE HAVE A WHOLE SEPARATE COMPANY THAT'S BEEN CONTINUOUSLY DEVELOPING RETAIL SHOPPING CENTERS FOR ALMOST 60 YEARS, AND I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THAT COMPANY.
AND I AM IN CHARGE OF DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT FOR THE PROJECTS, AND WE HAVE OUR CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER HERE TONIGHT AS WELL, AS WELL AS OUR PROJECT MANAGER, GARY LARSON, ANTHONY SANCHEZ OR ARCHITECT IS HERE ALSO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS SPECIFICS THAT AN ARCHITECT CAN ANSWER THAT I CAN'T ANSWER.
FINALLY HERE AFTER PROBABLY THREE AND A HALF YEARS OF OWNERSHIP NOW ON THE PROPERTY.
BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT, WORKING THROUGH THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROJECT, DEALING WITH THE CITY STAFF AND APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK THE STAFF HAS AND THE POLITICIANS HAVE HELPED US WITH, PUTTING THIS PROJECT TOGETHER, AND GETTING TO THIS POINT.
AND WE'RE AT THE POINT NOW WHERE WE'RE READY FOR YOUR REVIEW AND APPROVAL SO WE CAN HOPEFULLY GET UNDER CONSTRUCTION THIS FALL AND OPEN UP IN THE FALL OF 2022.
THAT'S OUR GAME PLAN RIGHT NOW.
AND I'D LIKE TO TAKE -- THERE ARE SEVERAL COMMISSIONERS I BELIEVE WHO WEREN'T PRESENT AT OUR NOVEMBER PRESENTATION.
WE WENT THROUGH THE PROJECT AND KIND OF WALKED EVERYONE THROUGH TO GET A FEEL FOR WHAT THEY LIKED ABOUT THE PROJECT AND THE DESIGN, AND IF I COULD I'LL JUST SPEND A FEW MINUTES PAGING THROUGH THAT PRESENTATION.
WE HAVE SOME UPDATED INTERIOR DESIGN DRAWINGS AS WELL THAT I CAN SHOW YOU AS WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THOSE.
SO AS MS. NAMVAR SHOWED YOU, THIS IS THE PERIMETER OF OUR EXISTING PROPERTY, AND THAT IS WITHIN OUR OWNERSHIP WE HAVE.
A RECIPROCAL EASEMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE PROPERTIES TO THE WEST OF US, IN AND IN-N-OUT, WELLS FARGO AND THE OLD DOLLAR TREE CENTER PARTICIPATE IN THE REA ON THIS PROPERTY WITH ALL CROSS-ACCESS EASEMENTS.
THAT HAS BEEN THERE SINCE THE INITIATION OF THIS PROJECT BACK IN THE '60S AND BE '70S.
NOW, THIS IS A BLOW-UP OF THE MALL ITSELF, JUST KIND OF A DEPICTION SHOWING HOW THE MALL IS -- WE'RE NOT CHANGE WALLS, THE INTERIOR WALLS OF THE SHOPS IN THE MALL EXCEPT FOR THE SEARS OR THE GOTTSCHALKS BUILDINGS, WHICH AS YOU'LL SEE HERE WE'RE SUB DIVIDING INTO A VARIETY OF SIZES AND SHAPES DEPENDING ON WHO WE'RE TARGETING AS TENANTS FOR THEM.
DON'T HAVE ANY TENANTS THERE RIGHT NOW THAT WE CAN ANNOUNCE AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT, BUT WE'RE WORKING WITH A VARIETY OF RETAILERS, FITNESS, FOOD, RESTAURANTS, ET CETERA, FOR THE TENANCIES IN THIS.
YOU'LL SEE ON THE SOUTH END OF THE MALL HERE, AND WE WILL SEE A PRETTIER PICTURE NEXT, WHERE WE'VE CREATED A FOOD HALL IN THE LARGER BUILDING THAT JUTS OUT TO THE SOUTH OF THIS BUILDING.
WE ARE DEMOLISHING THE FOUR SPACES, SHOP SPACES THAT ARE THERE NOW, CREATING THE NEW CLEAR STORY TOWER IN THERE, AND THERE IS GOING TO BE OUR FOOD HALL.
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THIS IS ANOTHER PICTURE.AGAIN, THAT WAS I BELIEVE PART OF YOUR PACKAGE.
THIS HAS THE LIST OF LANDSCAPE ITEMS AND KIND OF HIGHLIGHTS SOME OF THE VARIOUS AREAS WITHIN THE SITE AND THE PROJECT FOR THE ENHANCED PAVING, SPLASH ZONE, THE EXTERIOR AREAS, PUBLIC AREAS.
AND AS MS. NAMVAR POINTED OUT, PROBABLY THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE IN THE LANDSCAPE PLAN AND THE PLANTER PLAN IS THAT BIG THROAT THAT WE HAVE CREATED AT THE IN-N-OUT THERE TO PUSH THEIR TRAFFIC AWAY FROM THAT ENTRANCE WHICH IS JUST A MESS DURING THE BUSY EATING PERIODS.
AND WE HAVE THE ABILITY THAT EVEN AT THAT LITTLE DRIVEWAY ENTRANCE IN THE MIDDLE THAT OF THROAT, WHEN IN-N-OUT GETS REAL CRAZY, YOU CAN ACTUALLY FENCE THAT OFF AND PUSH THE TRAFFIC FURTHER BACK IN TOWARDS THE WELLS FARGO PARKING JUST TO GIVE US THE QUEUING THERE.
THE NEXT PRESENTATION, THIS IS A BLOW-UP OF THE WALL AGAIN.
YOU'LL SEE THE DEMISING IN THERE.
I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT MS. NAMVAR POINTED OUT THAT YOU THAT WE HAVE REMOVED OVER 20,000 SQUARE FEET OF THE GOTTSCHALKS BUILDING TO CREATE THAT DRIVE-THROUGH THAT NOW FINALLY THERE IS CIRCULATION OF THE ENTIRE MALL SO THAT SOMEONE CAN DRIVE AROUND THE ENTIRE MALL INSTEAD OF HAVING TO GO OUT ON HIGHWAY 111 TO GET AROUND HARBOR FREIGHT, AND THAT'S A NET LOSS OF ABOUT 20,000-FOOT OF LEASABLE AREA TO US.
DOWN BELOW, I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT WHILE WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS, TO THE SOUTH OF THE MALL YOU'LL SEE THOSE TWO KIND OF LANDSCAPED AREAS ON EITHER SIDE OF THAT FOOD HALL.
THE LANDSCAPED AREA TO THE WEST RIGHT NOW IS, WE'RE CALLING IT A FLEX SPACE.
WE'VE DESIGNED IT TO BE AN AREA WHERE WE CAN HAVE CONCERTS ON FRIDAY NIGHT, SATURDAY NIGHT ABUNDANCE THERE OR IF WE HAVE SOME SPEECHES, WE CAN HAVE THERE.
IF WE HAVE CHILDREN'S SCHOOL PRESENTATIONS, GROUPS, THAT'S AN AREA WHERE WE CAN CONGREGATE FOR THE PUBLIC USE.
AND TO THE EAST SIDE OF THAT FOOD HALL WE'RE CREATING WE'RE CALLING IT THE CHILDREN'S SPLASH ZONE.
IT'S BASICALLY AN AREA WHERE THE KIDS CAN RUN AROUND, AND WE'LL DETERMINE WHICH KIND OF WATER ELEMENT WE'RE GOING PUT IN THERE BUT THEY CAN GET SOAKING WET IN THE HEAT AND COOL OFF.
AND TO THE SOUTH OF BOTH OF THOSE AREAS WE'VE CREATED A DATE GROVE EMULATING THE DID IT GROVES SO PROMINENT IN THE VALLEY AS JUST TWOFOLD.
ONE IS TO BRING THAT HISTORY OF INDIO AND THE HISTORY OF THE VALLEY TO THIS LOCATION, AND SECONDLY TO PROVIDE A NICE SHADED AREA WHERE THE MOMS AND DADS AND FAMILIES CAN SIT WHILE THE KIDS ARE PLAYING IN THE WATER IN THE SPLASH ZONE OR THE CONCERT IS GOING ON IN THE FLEX AREA.
THE FLEX AREA IS -- WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THAT, AS ITS NAME STIPULATES, WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP IT FLEXIBLE.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE MIGHT USE IT AND HOPEFULLY WILL USE IT FOR SOME TIME IN THE FUTURE IS MAYBE A RESTAURANT THAT GOES INTO THAT SOUTHEAST CORNER OF GOTTSCHALKS.
THAT HAS A GREAT PATIO AND A GREAT BARBECUE -- I ALWAYS ENVISIONED JUST A GREAT BEEL HALL AND HAVE THAT OUTDOOR PATIO, OUTDOOR SEATING THAT YOU SEE INY ALL THESE BREWERY ESTABLISHMENTS AROUND, SO THAT COULD BE -- THAT COULD BE A BIG PATIO AT SOME POINT FOR A RESTAURANT, BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S EARMARKED FOR PUBLIC SPACE.
AND THEN JUST TO THE SOUTH OF THE FOOD HALL YOU'LL SEE SOME COVERED AREAS, AND AGAIN THAT'S SHADED AREAS FOR SEATING OUTSIDE.
THERE'S -- IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE AT THIS TIME OF THE YEAR BUT THERE'S SO MUCH OF THE YEAR HERE IN THE DESERT WHERE THE OUTSIDE PATIO, THE OUTSIDE EATING, OUTSIDE LIVING IS JUST SO WONDERFUL THAT WE'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THAT.
THE LANDSCAPE PLAN TO THE SOUTH OF THAT FOOD HALL IS GOING TO BLEND INTO THE FOOD HALL.
I DON'T THINK THIS -- I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE THESE PRESENTATIONS.
YOU'LL SEE IN IT SOME OF OUR RENDERINGS BUT THE TREES THAT ARE IN THE PLANTERS RIGHT OUTSIDE THAT FOOD HALL WANT WE'RE GOING TO CARRY THOSE SAME PLANTERS IN THE INSIDE.
SO AS YOU WALK IF YOU HAVE A CONTINUOUS FLOW AND A CONNECTION FROM THE EXTERIOR TO THE INTERIOR.
WE HAD HOPED TO AND HAD PLANNED ORIGINALLY TO BE ABLE TO PUT THESE BIG I'LL CALL THEM AIRPLANE HANGAR SLIDER DOORS AT THAT ENTRANCE TO THE FOOD HALL SO THAT WHEN THE WEATHER, IT'S 70 DEGREES OUTSIDE ON THAT EVENING IN MAY YOU CAN OPEN UP THESE GLASS DOORS, AND THAT IS AN INTERIOR/EXTERIOR SPACE BUT SO FAR THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT HAS PUT A QUASH TO THAT.
WE'LL WORK WITH THEM AND SEE HOW WE CAN CONTROL THE FLIES A DIFFERENT WAY MAYBE.
LANDSCAPING, WE'VE GOT ROUGHLY 110 TREES ON THE PROPERTY NOW.
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WE'VE PROPERTY BROUGHT HALF THOSE IN SINCE WE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY THREE AND A HALF YEARS AGO.WHEN WE'RE DONE WITH THIS PROPERTY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ABOUT 300 TREES.
SO WE'RE BRINGING IN THE SHADE TREES.
WE'RE BRINGING IN PALMS THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT AND TRIPLING WHAT WE HAVE THERE TODAY.
THE ENHANCED PAVING, YOU SEE A NOTE ON THOSE, THE KEY AREAS.
ONE THE COMMENTS ON OUR EARLIER PRESENTATION WAS TRAFFIC CONTROL.
WE WILL BE WORKING WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
WE WANT SPEED BUMPS TO CONTROL THE TRAFFIC GOING THROUGH THERE, PARTICULARLY ON THE SOUTH END AND PARTICULARLY WHEN WE CONNECT TO THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH OF US AND REDEVELOP THAT, BUT AT THIS TIME THE IDEA IS THAT THAT'S AN ELEVATED SIDEWALK SO THAT, LIKE YOU SEE IN THE AIRPORTS WHERE YOU DRIVE UP A CURB TO GET TO AN ELEVATED PORTION SO YOU HAVE TO AUTOMATICALLY SLOW DOWN TO GET UP TO IT AND THEN YOU SLOW DOWN TO GET OFF OF IT AS WELL THROUGH THAT AREA, SO THAT WAS A TRAFFIC CONTROL QUESTION THAT CAME UP ORIGINALLY.
ONE OF THE THINGS I'LL POINT OUT ON THIS SLIDE -- I'M NOT SURE IF A FUTURE SLIDE LIFT -- AGAIN, ONE OF THE COMMENTS ORIGINALLY WHEN WE WERE DEALING WITH THIS SITE PLAN WAS HOW ARE WE GOING TO HANDLE LOADING, HOW ARE WE GOING TO HANDLE THE RIDE-ALONG AND THE LYFT AND THE UBER TYPE OF TRIPS, IS IF YOU'LL LOOK SOUTH OF THE SEARS BUILDING AND SOUTH OF THE GOTTSCHALKS BUILDING YOU'LL SEE THAT THROAT OF LANDSCAPING THAT SEPARATES THAT SMALL PARKING FIELD FROM THE DRIVE TO THE SOUTH.
JUST TO THE NORTH OF BOTH OF THOSE THROATED PLANTERS, THOSE PLANTERS THERE, THAT'S GOING TO BE DEDICATED LOADING AREA.
BEHIND THE SEARS WE'VE GOT ALMOST 200 LINEAL FEET EARMARKED FOR LOADING.
BEHIND THE GOTTSCHALKS WE'VE PROBABLY GOT 120 TO 150 LINEAL FEET OF LOADING.
AND SO WE HAVE DEDICATED LOADING ZONES FOR ALL THE TRUCKS AND DELIVERIES THAT ARE GOING TO BE BE COMING, OBVIOUSLY, WITH 140,000 FEET OF GLA.
YOU'LL HAVE QUITE A BIT OF LOADING, ESPECIALLY WITH THE FOOD USERS.
SO THOSE WILL BE EARMARKED FOR LOADING DURING THE EARLY HOURS OF THE DAY, AND THEN IN THE EVENINGS THEY'RE GOING TO BE EARMARKED, WE'LL HAVE SIGNS, THAT'LL BE CUSTOMER PICKUP AND DROP AWE.
THE UBERS WILL BE ABLE TO GET ON IT OF THE SOUTH DRIVE, PULL INTO THOSE AREAS FOR THEIR CUSTOMERS ON AND OFF, AND HOPEFULLY WE GET A LOT OF THAT TRAFFIC BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF THE RESTAURANTS THERE THAT PEOPLE WANT TO JOIN AND A NICE AT THE KEEL A BAR IN THE FOOD HALL IS MY DREAM.
AGAIN, WE BRIEFLY WENT THROUGH THE ELEVATIONS IN MS. NAMVAR'S PRESENTATION, BUT THIS IS THE ENTRANCE TO THE MALL, THE MAIN ENTRANCE FACING 111.
RIGHT NOW THE, AGAIN, COMPLETELY CHANGE THE LOOK AND APPEARANCE OF IT.
THE TOP OF THIS STRUCTURE IS EQUAL TO THE TOP OF THE EXISTING DOMED ENTRANCE AT THIS POINT, BUT WE'RE BASICALLY GUTTING THAT WHOLE ENTRANCE AREA, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH IT, AND TAKING EVERYTHING UP 32 FEET IN THAT AREA.
THE SIDES OF THAT, YOU'LL SEE THE GLASS, GROUND TO CEILING ON THIS PRESENTATION ON THE ENTRANCE THERE, BUT WE HAVE THE SAME THING ON THE SIDES OF THESE CLEAR STORIES.
WE HAVE GLASS SO IT'S JUST GOING TO ILLUMINATE NATURAL SUNLIGHT THROUGHOUT THIS AREA.
AND IN THE EVENING, AT NIGHT TIME WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A GREAT LIGHTING PROGRAM SO IT'S JUST GOING TO GLOW FROM HIGHWAY 111.
THE WHOLE IDEA, AND AGAIN THIS IS WHERE I'LL DISCUSS OUR INTRODUCTION OF THE COLOR, THE BOLD COLORS FOR THIS PROJECT MAY HAVE BEEN WE'VE LIVED WITH IT TOO LONG, BEEN FAMILIAR WITH THIS FOR SO LONG AND IT WAS SUCH A DRAB EXPOSURE AND PRESENTATION TO THE PUBLIC AND TO THE HIGHWAY 111, SO WE'RE JUST GOING ALL THE WAY THE OPPOSITE OF THAT AND JUST DOING THE COLOR.
WE THOUGHT THE PALM FRONDS WAS AGAIN A GREAT TIE-IN AND LINK TO THE HERITAGE OF INDIO AND THE COACHELLA VALLEY, SO THAT'S KIND OF THE FOUNDATION BEHIND OUR DECISION TO DO THAT.
YOU'LL SEE ON THE PARAPET TO THE RIGHT OF THE ENTRANCE, TO THE RIGHT OF THOSE PALM FROND ELEMENTS YOU'LL SEE MURALS.
AGAIN, THE PARAPETS THAT ARE GOING TO BE BACK, WE ARE ACTUALLY DEMOLISHING THE EXISTING PARAPETS ON OTHER BUILDINGS NOW, AT GREAT EXPENSES, AND MOVING THEM BACK 6 FEET SO THAT THAT FRONTAGE WALL, NOW THAT CONCEALS THE EQUIPMENT AND THE UTILITY AREAS, IS NOW GOING TO BE OUT 6 FEET OUT FROM THE FACE OF THAT
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PARAPET, GIVING US THAT RELIEF, SO ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU HAVE A STEPPED FEELING AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE ELEVATIONS FROM THE EXTERIOR BACK, AND WE'RE GOING TEAK THOSE PARAPET AREAS AND PUT A MURAL THERE.RIGHT NOW IT'S A MURAL EMULATING THE SKYLINE AS YOU LOOK AROUND COACHELLA VALLEY WITH THE MOUNTAINS, PALMS IN THERE, AND THE SUNSHINE, SUNRAYS CONTINUING.
THIS IS THE ENTRANCE, THE NEW ENTRANCE, CLEAR STORY OVER THE FOOD HALL.
AGAIN, WE'RE TAKING THAT BUILDING, GUTTING IT EXCEPT FOR THE PERIMETER WALLS, AND TAKING THAT UP 32 FEET IN THE AIR.
WE'RE SHOWING WE'VE GOT THE PALM FRONDS, NOT COLORED, AROUND THE PERIMETER.
ONE IS TO HELP WITH SOME SHADING THROUGH THIS, CUTTING THE LIGHT, HEAT LOAD GOING THROUGH THOSE, AND AGAIN TO CARRY THAT PALM FROND THEME.
YOU'LL SEE AGAIN THE SHADED AREAS TO THE SOUTH OF THE FOOD HALL THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER WITH THE SEATING.
WE'VE GOT A COMBINATION OF CANOPY, OF SAIL SHADES THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING THROUGH HERE, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT SOME HARD STRUCTURE SHADING THAT YOU CAN SEE IN BETWEEN.
YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE THE TRELLIS BUT IT WILL BE A NICE HARD STRUCTURE WITH A TRELLIS SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SEE AROUND THE PRIM THE EFFORTS CLEAR STORY UP ABOVE.
AGAIN, CARRYING THAT THEME THROUGH.
YOU GET A LITTLE PICTURE HERE OF LOOKING THROUGH THE PALM TREES, LOOKING THROUGH THE PALM GROVES.
THIS IS LOOKING AT THAT FLEX AREA THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER.
AGAIN, HERE'S A BIRD'S-EYE VIEW OF THAT BACK AREA.
THOSE PALM TREES ARE SPACED 20 TO 24 FEET APART SO WE'VE GOT PROBABLY 80 TO 100 LINEAL FEET BY 100 LINEAL FEET BACK THERE.
IT'S A DECOMPOSED GRANITE SURFACE DOWN THERE SO IT'S PERMEABLE FOR RAIN AND IT HELPS WITH ALL THE STORM CONTROL AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF THESE DAYS.
AND SO THIS GIVES YOU A GOOD FEEL FOR HOW ALL OF THAT WILL LAY OUT TOGETHER.
AND IT GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF THE SCOPE OF THE NEW ENTRY ELEMENTS AND CLEAR STORY TOWERS FROM THE ROOF'S PERSPECTIVE.
THERE'S FIVE ENTRANCES TO THE MALL NOW.
ALL FIVE ENTRANCES WILL HAVE THAT SAME TREATMENT.
THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE FLEX AREA.
WE PLAN TO PUTTING A BIG WIDE SCREEN UP THERE FOR SOCCER MATCHES, OR LIVE STREAMING OF CONCERTS, WE HOPE, AND FOR OTHER PRESENTATIONS, SPORTS PRESENTATIONS AND OTHER THINGS THAT CAN BE RUN, MOVIE NIGHT FOR THE FAMILY AND THE KIDS, YOU KNOW, EVENTS SUCH AS THAT.
AGAIN, AND HERE'S A PERSPECTIVE OF THE PALM GROVE OUT IN FRONT OF THE SPLASH ZONE.
AGAIN, THE IDEA IS TO HAVE THESE MOUNTED AREAS, CUSHIONED AREAS FOR THE KIDS TO ROLL ON AND PLAY ON AROUND THIS SPLASH ZONE AND THEN TO RUN IN THERE AND GET SOAKED AT THIS POINT.
THEN YOU'LL SEE THE TREE PLANTERS.
AGAIN, THIS IS SOME TRAFFIC CONTROL AS WELL AS LANDSCAPING ISSUES THAT THESE TREE PLANTERS ON THE LEFT OF YOUR SCREEN ARE RAISED SO AS TO PREVENT VEHICLES.
FROM ACCIDENTALLY COMING OFF OF THE ROADWAY THERE INTO THE PUBLIC AREAS.
THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW IN THE INTERIOR OF THE MALL, A WORK IN PROGRESS.
THE GOAL IS TO BE FUN, EXCITING, INTERESTING, AND TO BE -- I KEEP TELLING MR. SANCHEZ, OUR ARCHITECT, I SAID, I WANT A FIESTA IN HERE.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING TOWARD.
AND IF YOU KNOW THE INTERIOR MALL AT THIS POINT IN TIME, YOU CAN COMPARE THE DIFFERENCES.
THIS IS A SHOT OF OUR FOOD HALL FROM THE SOUTH LOOKING KIND OF NORTHWEST.
THOSE ARE THOSE TREE PLANTERS I MENTIONED THAT ARE INTERIOR AT THIS LOCATION THAT MATCH THE TREE PLANTERS ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE FOOD HALL.
AGAIN, EXCITEMENT, FUN, COLOR, AND YOU'RE STARTING TO GET A PERSPECTIVE.
YOU'RE STARTING TO GET A PERSPECTIVE OF THE ACTUAL VOLUME.
THE CEILING IS 32 FEET UP, AND WE PLAN ON HAVING THAT AS A BIG PART OF OUR DECORATION.
WE WILL PUT DECORATIVE ITEMS UP THERE AS WE FINISH OUT OUR INTERIOR KIND OF FINISHES.
ANOTHER SHOT, ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE OF THE FOOD HALL, STORES ON EITHER SIDE IN A COUPLE OF KIOSKS DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THIS.
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A VARIETY OF SEATING, PICNIC TABLES, DIFFERENT TABLES, DIFFERENT COMBINATIONS OF COLORS AND TABLES, AGAIN, TO JUST I WILL ILLUMINATE THIS WHOLE AREA OF THE PROJECT AND AGAIN MAKE THE FUN AND A FIESTA FEEL.ANOTHER PICTURE AGAIN THAT GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF THE VOLUME AND YOU SEE THE TREES BEHIND IN THE BACKGROUND THERE THAT WILL EXTEND OUT INTO THE EXTERIOR.
YOU SAW THIS -- SORRY EVERYTHING IS SHOW SMALL BUT THIS JUST GIVES YOU A PERSPECTIVE OF REALLY THE LINEAL FOOTAGE.
WE'VE GOT SEVERAL THOUSAND FEET OF LINEAL FOOTAGE ON THESE EXTERIORS AND THIS IS HOW WE ARE GOING TO TREAT, AND AS WE GET INVOLVED WITH THE PROJECT AND WITH ACTUALLY THE SPECIFIC PLAN AMENDMENT THAT WE'RE PREPARING NOW TO MODIFY THE SIGNAGE IN HERE, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO CREATE A LOT OF EXCITEMENT WITH SIGNAGE AROUND THE EXTERIOR AND PERIMETER OF THE MALL FOR TENANTS AS WELL AS FOR THE TYPES OF USES INSIDE.
THEY'RE NOT SHOWING ON THIS PLAN OTHER THAN OTHER THAN YOUR STANDARD ATTENDANCE SIGNS ON THE FASCIAS OF THE ENTRANCES.
BUT THAT'S AGAIN, THIS GIVES YOU KIND OF A LINEAL PERSPECTIVITY DIFFERENT ELEVATIONS FOR THE PROJECT.
AND THAT'S IT FOR WHAT I HAVE FOR OUR PRESENTATION.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR COMMENTS, AND ASK MY TEAM IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING SPECIFIC FOR THEM.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND START WITH DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ CEJA?
RODRIGUEZ CEJA: I HAD A COUPLE BUT THAT LAST PRESENTATION ANSWERED A LOT OF THEM SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.
>> CHAIRPERSON VALDEZ: I DID HAVE A QUESTION IN REGARDS TO THE TENANTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN PLACE THERE AT THE MALL.
WILL THEY BE ALLOWED TO STAY OR ARE THEIR UNITS GOING TO BE REMODELED? WHAT'S THE PLAN WITH THEM?
>> THERE'S A COMBINATION OF THINGS HAPPENING WITH THE EXISTING TENANTS.
SOME OF THEM HAVE LONG-TERM LEASES THAT ARE IN PLACE AND WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM.
WE ARE CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGATED TO WORK WITH THEM.
WE ARE ASKING SOME, WE HAVE TO RELOCATE ONE OF THEM BECAUSE HE'S IN OUR FOOD HALL.
RIGHT NOW C22, WE ARE RELOCATING HIM TO ANOTHER LOCATION.
WE'VE REACHED AN AGREEMENT TO RELOCATE HIM WITHIN ANOTHER LOCATION WITHIN THE MALL AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
AND THE OTHER LONG-TERM TENANTS, THE SAME THING.
THEY'RE BASICALLY HAVE A CONTRACTUAL RIGHT TO STAY WHERE THEY ARE, AND SOME OF THEM WE -- AND THE OTHER MONTH-TO-MONTH WHICH IS THE MAJORITY, PROBABLY 70% OF THE TENANTS ARE MONTH-TO-MONTH, SOME OF THEM WE ARE KEEPING AND SOME OF THEM WE ARE ASKING TO CLOSE AND COME BACK AND TALK TO US AGAIN ONCE WE OPEN.
PART OF OUR DILEMMA IS TO TRY TO -- TRY TO CONSOLIDATE THE EXISTING TENANTS INTO ONE AREA OF THE MALL DURING CONSTRUCTION BECAUSE THE INTERIOR CONSTRUCTION OF THIS IS GOING TO BE SO DISRUPTIVE, AS YOU CAN SEE BY THE DESIGN, AND SO WE WERE ACTUALLY HOPING THAT A LOT OF TENANTS WOULD TAKE OUR OFFER AND JUST CLOSE DURING CONSTRUCTION BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE DISRUPTIVE FOR THE OTHER CUSTOMERS AS WELL, BUT TO MY SURPRISE, EVERYBODY WANTS TO STAY.
EVERYBODY LOVES IT, EVEN THOUGH THE RENTERS GOING TO GO UP ONCE THIS MALL IS COMPLETED, WE'VE BEEN AT A VERY LOW RENT, AND RIGHTLY SO WITH THE DECREPIT SHAPE OF THIS MALL UP TO THIS POINT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO GET UP TO MARKET RATES VERY SOON AFTER WE OPEN THIS MALL, AND SO WE'RE NEGOTIATING WITH EVERY ONE OF THE TENANTS IN THERE THAT WANTS TO STAY, AND THE REVELER EVER SEVERAL THAT WEREN'T DOING ANY BUSINESS AND WEREN'T THERE, WE'VE HAD TO MAKE A TOUGH CALL AND ASK THEM TO MOVE OUT AND TERMINATED THEIR MONTH-TO-MONTH LEASE, BUT WE'VE EXPENDED THE INVITATION FOR THEM TO COME BACK UPON THE COMPLETION OF THIS AND TALK WITH US AGAIN AND TALK ABOUT PLANS, MARKETING, MERCHANDISING.
BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MOST OF THE WEST HALF OF THE MALL, THE SOUTH QUADRANT AND THE NORTH QUADRANT, MOST OF THOSE SHOPS ARE GOING TO BE OPEN AND OPERATING DURING CONSTRUCTION, SO IT'S -- WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK AROUND THEM.
IT'S GOING TO COST MORE WITH THE CONTRACTOR TO PROVIDE A SAFE PATH OF TRAVEL FOR CUSTOMERS, BUT THEY ALL WANTED IS TO STAY, AND SO WHO ARE WE TO TELL THEM THEY CAN'T STAY IF THEY WANTED TO.
IT'S GOING TO BE A CRUMMY YEAR FOR THEM.
WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO MINIMIZE THE DUST BUT YOU CAN'T EVER PREVENT IT.
SO WE PROBABLY HAVE A DOZEN TENANTS, PROBABLY A DOZEN TENANTS THAT ARE GOING TO REMAIN THROUGH CONSTRUCTION, AND THEY'RE GOING TO ENTER INTO LONG-TERM LEASES WITH
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US TO STAY ON LONG TERM WITH US.>> CHAIRPERSON VALDEZ: THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANSWER.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: COMMISSIONER FRANZ.
>> COMMISSIONER FRANZ: I WAS BORN IN INDIO.
I WANT TO SEE HALL THAT DUST QUICKLY.
I REALLY LOVE WHAT YOU'RE DOING WITH THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE MALL.
APPLY QUESTION IS GOING TO BE TO ME, EVEN THOUGH THAT'S NOT THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE, I'M ASSUMING THE NORTH SIDE IS STILL GOING TO BE THE ONE ALONG HIGHWAY 111 IS GOING TO BE THE MAIN ENTRANCE.
IS THERE GOING TO BE ANY PARKING ON THE SOUTH SIDE OR ARE YOU GOING TO DIRECT EVERYONE TO PARK BY HIGHWAY 111 AND WALK TO GET TO THAT NEW SECTION IN THE BACK?
>> IN THIS APPLICATION WE HAVE JUST THE PARKING THAT YOU SAW, YOU KNOW, IN THE REAR OF THE CENTER, AND SO THE MAJORITY OF PARKING IS GOING TO BE ON THE NORTH SIDE AND THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE ARE USED TO.
YOU SEE THEM PARKING THERE NOW.
WE'VE GOT THAT HUGE PARKING FIELD IN THE REAR RIGHT NOW THAT NOBODY USES.
PEOPLE JUST WANT TO PARK ON 111.
YES, ON 111 AND THEN TO THE EAST OF SEARS THAT HAS A LARGE PARKING FIELD AND THAT'S GOING TO GET USED BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO FILL UP THE NORTH VERY QUICKLY, AND SAME THING TO THE WEST PARKING LOT.
WE HAVE THE RECIPROCAL EASEMENT AGREEMENT WHERE WE SHARE THAT PARKING LOT OF THE OLD GOTTSCHALKS BUILDINGS.
>> COMMISSIONER FRANZ: SO THE SOUTH PORTION OF THIS PLAN IS GOING TO GET BLOCKED OFF.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S BACK THERE ANYMORE.
I HAVEN'T BEEN BACK THERE IN A LONG TIME.
>> RIGHT NOW THERE'S A WALL THERE BUT THE LONG-TERM PLANS THAT WE HOPE TO BRING INTO THE CITY, BRING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN WORKING WITH THE CITY STAFF RIGHT NOW IS TO HAVE SOME SYNERGY ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT TO THE SOUTH OF THE MALL AND HOW THAT'S GOING TO END UP AND GET RESOLVED, WE DON'T KNOW YET.
WE'RE STILL IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE CITY.
BUT OUR GOAL IS TO BE A MASTER DEVELOPMENT FOR THE CITY PARCEL TO THE SOUTH AS WELL AND INTEGRATE THE DEVELOPMENT DOWN THERE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE MALL.
>> COMMISSIONER FRANZ: SO THE WALL WILL STAY FOR NOW.
>> COMMISSIONER FRANZ: I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE OF THAT.
THE MORE QUESTION IS I LOVE THE COLORS THAT THE CANOPY PROVIDES, THE CANOPIES.
I'M ASSUMING THOSE ARE VERY HIGH COMMERCIAL GRADE.
I MEAN, THE COLORS ARE BEAUTIFUL BUT YOU KNOW HOW OUR SUN IS PRETTY MEAN TO THINGS WITH COLOR OUT HERE, SO I'M ASSUMING THESE ARE LIKE SPECIALTY COMMERCIAL GRADE.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO FROM THESE BEAUTIFUL VIBRANT COLORS IN A YEAR TO -- >> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAIL, THE SOFT SHADES?
>> THE BEST PRODUCTS OUT THERE THE SUN DESTROYS ANYWAY.
YOU CAN GET THREE TO FIVE YEARS OUT OF THE BEST SUN BREL A PRODUCT IN THIS KIND OF HEAT AND THE SUN.
BUT WE ANTICIPATE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE REGULARLY REPLACING THEM.
WE EXPECT AND DEMAND THAT THE COLOR STAYS VIBRANT.
>> COMMISSIONER FRANZ: SO IT WILL CONTINUAL BE CHANGED.
>> COMMISSIONER FRANZ: THERE'S A LOT OF WEAR AND TEAR ON THEM.
THAT'S MY ONLY COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
LIKE WHAT YOU BROUGHT TO US MAYBE A YEAR.
I DON'T REMEMBER WHEN THE LAST TIME YOU GUYS CAME.
>> COMMISSIONER FRANZ: NOVEMBER.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER FRANZ.
>> VICE CHAIRPERSON YSIANO: NO QUESTIONS FOR THE THE APPLICANT.
I'LL SAVE MY COMMENTS FOR DELIBERATION.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: I HAVE A QUESTION.
I SAW ON THE PLANS, I DIDN'T SEE ANY -- IS THERE ANY PLANS TO HAVE ANY SPACE FOR PUBLIC ART?
WE'RE KIND OF ENVISIONING RIGHT NOW THAT THE FOUNTAINS, WE'D LIKE TO CREATE THE FOUNTAINS, AN ARTIST'S PRESENTATION IN OUR FOUNTAINS.
WE'VE GOT A NEW CENTRAL FOUNTAIN IN THE MALL OR IN THE INSIDE OF THE MALL IN THE CENTER COURT THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING IN.
WE HAVEN'T COMMISSIONED ANY ARTIST YET TO DO THAT.
WE HAVE ALL OF THE AREAS OUTSIDE TO THE SOUTH WITHIN THE PALM GROVES AND AROUND THE AREAS WITH THE SPLASH ZONE AND THE FLEX AREA FOR PUBLIC ART.
HAVEN'T SPENT NAME, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, IN DESIGNING OR INCORPORATING THAT, BUT IT WILL BE PART OF THE PLAN.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO, WE'VE DONE BEFORE ON OTHER PROJECTS, AND I'LL LET IT OUT NOW, AGAIN, WE'RE STILL WORKING, STILL IN THE FORMULATION STAGES, BUT WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST AND IN OTHER LOCATIONS WHERE IT'S SUCH A FOCAL POINT FOR THE COMMUNITY IS WE ACTUALLY GO OUT TO THE SCHOOLS AND WE GO OUT SCHOOLKIDS, AND OUR PLAN HA THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW -- I'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT AND WE DID IT ON A SIMILAR PROJECT -- WE TAKE TILES, TAKE BLANK TILES AND TAKE THEM OUT AND GIVE ALL THE TILES TO THE ART CLASSES AND ALL OF THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS IN TOWN AND HAVE ALL THE KIDS PAINT A THEME AND WE'LL PROBABLY START OFF WITH A DESERT INDIO THEME WITH PALMS AND, YOU KNOW, REPTILES AND FROM THE DESERT AND THEN WE'RE
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GOING TO TAKE, WE'VE ALREADY SPOKEN WITH AND HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH A NON-PROFIT GROUP IN LA QUINTA -- I WON'T SAY THEIR NAME -- THAT WILL ACTUALLY TAKE THE TILES, THEY'LL FIRE THEM, AND THEN WE CAN EK TAKE THEM AND STICK THEM ON THE WALLS, AND OUR THOUGHT IS WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THOSE WALLS IN BEHIND THE SPLASH ZONE FIRST, AND SO IN 2002 WE HAVE OUR FIRST WALL OF THE SECOND GRADERS OR THE THIRD GRADERS, WHATEVER THE SCHOOL ADMINISTRATORS DECIDE IS THE BEST, AND THEN IN 2003 WE GET THE NEXT CROP OF SECOND GRADERS OR THIRD GRADERS SO THAT TEN YEARS, 15 YEARS FROM NOW THESE PEOPLE ARE BRINGING THEIR FAMILY BACK AND THEIR KID BACK SAYING, I DID THAT 12 YEARS AGO.SO IT'S NOT TRADITIONAL ART BUT IT'S SOMETHING FUN TO INVOLVE THE COMMUNITY.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: I WAS THINKING THIS WOULD BE A NATURAL FIT SINCE YOU HAVE SOME OF THAT PUBLIC ART ON THE POLO GROUNDS TO MAYBE TRANSITION IT OVER TO THE FASHION MARKETPLACE.
IT WILL BE PART OF OUR DEVELOPMENT.
I JUST DON'T HAVE ANYTHING SPECIFIC TO SHARE WITH YOU.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: AND THEN CAN WE HAVE LIKE WOULD THIS BE SOMETHING WE CAN HELP HAVE OUR ARTS COMMISSION WORK WITH THE APPLICANT IF THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT?
>> KEVIN SNYDER: SO, CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, UNDER CURRENT CITY CODE, THE APPLICANT EITHER CAN CONTRIBUTE TO THE ART IN PUBLIC PLACES FUND BY FINANCIAL MEANS OR THE APPLICANT CAN WORK WITH THE PUBLIC ARTS COMMISSION AND STAFF IN DEVELOPING A PUBLIC ARTS PROGRAM.
SO THAT'S A VOLUNTARY CHOICE BY THE APPLICANT THAT THEY CAN PURSUE.
I THINK THE ART -- I'M NOT TRYING TO SPEAK FOR MR. FAHY BUT THE HEART WE REFERRED TO WITH THE SCHOOLCHILDREN MIGHT HAVE BEEN MORE PRIVATE IN THE SENSE THAT IT WOULD BE ART THAT WOULD BE ON THE PROPERTY BUT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE THROUGH THE PUBLIC ARTS PROGRAM ALTHOUGH WE HAVE DONE A SIMILAR PROGRAM FOR OUR MILES AVENUE BRIDGE THAT WILL WE'LL BE INSTALLING LATER THIS YEAR.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: I WAS THINKING OF THE DR. CARREON PARK, TOO, THAT'S NOT TOO FAR FROM THE MALL.
THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.
DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF?
>> CHAIRPERSON VALDEZ: SO I JUST HAVE A QUESTION FOR.
>> THE MEMO THAT CAME OUT WITH THE CONDITIONS, THE REVISE DOLLARS CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION.
SO I NOTICED THAT A LOT OF THE STUFF THAT WAS DELETED WAS LIKE THE REMOVAL OF BROKEN, DAMAGED SIDEWALKS.
WAS THERE LIKE A DIFFERENT CONDITION THAT COVERS SOME OF THIS OR WHAT AM I MISSING HERE?
IT JUST SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF THOSE WERE -- >> LEILA NAMVAR: YES.
THEY WERE ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS ADDED TO COVER THAT WITH THE AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY ENGINEER.
>> COMMISSIONER FRANZ: SO MOST OF THESE ITEMS ARE STILL BEING COVERED IN THERE.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THEY WERE NOT REMOVED.
THEY ARE COVERED TO THE EXTENT THAT THIS PORTION OF THE PROJECT WILL AFFECT THOSE.
>> COMMISSIONER FRANZ: I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? SORRY.
I'M RUNNING WITHOUT MY TRAINING WHEELS.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE I CLOSE IT? OKAY.
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND WHO WOULD LIKE TO GO FIRST? COMMISSIONER VALDEZ?
>> CHAIRPERSON VALDEZ: I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SEE SUCH A BEAUTIFUL STRUCTURE REPLACING WHAT WE HAVE THERE.
WE DRIVE THROUGH THERE ALL THE TIME AND IT'S A LITTLE SAD JUST TO SEE THE BUILDING THAT'S A LITTLE RUNDOWN SO SEEING THAT STREET AND SEEING THE BEAUTIFUL COLORS AND THE NEW CONSTRUCTION, THE NEW MODERN DESIGN IS GOING TO DEFINITELY BRING LIGHT INTO OUR SPIRITS AND HOPEFULLY MAKE MORE PEOPLE WANT TO DRIVE INTO INDIO AND EXPERIENCE THE NEW MALL.
I LOVE THE IDEA OF THE BIG SCREEN OUTSIDE OF SHOWCASING LIKE GAMES OR MOVIE NIGHTS WITH THE FAMILY.
I THINK THAT'S AN AMAZING IDEA AND SOMETHING NEW AND SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
I HAVEN'T SEEN OR HEARD OF ANOTHER MALL DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND MAYBE EVEN LIVE STREAMING COACHELLA WHEN COACHELLA IS HERE OR EVEN THE TENNIS.
I LOVE THAT IDEA AND I'M EXCITED TO SEE IN PROJECT COME TO LIFE, SO THANK YOU.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER VALDEZ.
RODRIGUEZ CEJA: I THINK THE LAST TIME WHEN THEY CAME IN NOVEMBER I WAS REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THE PROJECT COMING DOWN.
I THINK THAT PARTICULAR AREA REALLY NEEDS A LOT OF ATTENTION, AND SO I WANT TO THANK THE \APPLICANT\POLITICAL\ FOR TAKING -- APPLICANT FOR
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TAKING THE TIME TO CONSIDER THIS PROJECT AND BRINGING IT TO FULL FRUITION.I REALLY ENJOYED THAT THEY ADDRESSED THE PARKING SHADE WHICH WASN'T BROUGHT UP, BUT ALL OF THOSE TREES.
I'M LOOKING AT THESE LANDSCAPE PLANS JUST THINKING, MORE IS MORE, AND SO I APPRECIATE THE APPLICANT THAT THEY TOOK THAT ON, AND I DID ATTACH THE DIFFERENCES FROM THAT ORIGINAL PROPOSED VISION WHEN IT CAME IN NOVEMBER TO THE PLAN THAT WAS PRESENTED TODAY, AND SO I DID SEE SOME OF THOSE DIFFERENCES AND LITTLE NUANCES THAT I THINK ONLY ELEVATED THE PROJECT.
AND, YEAH, I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A REALLY GOOD THING, AND WE NEED SOME ATTENTION TO THAT CORRIDOR, AND I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON, AND SO I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS COME TO THE CITY.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ CEJA.
>> COMMISSIONER FRANZ: ALL I CAN SAY IS THANK GOD.
I MEAN, WE REALLY, REALLY NEED THIS.
IT'S GOING TO BE A HUGE IMPROVEMENT TO THE CORE OF INDIO, AND I REMEMBER THE MALL WHEN IT HAD A LITTLE MORE LIFE, AND I'LL BE VERY EXCITED TO BE VISITING THERE AGAIN AND HAVING PLACES TO SHOP, SO I'M VERY EXCITED AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING THIS COME OUT OF THE GROUND.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: VICE CHAIR.
>> VICE CHAIRPERSON YSIANO: YEAH, I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SEE LIFE AND VIBRANCY BROUGHT INTO OUR 111 CORRIDOR.
I GREW UP COMING TO THIS MALL WHEN I WAS A KID.
MY FIVE-YEAR-OLD WOULD LOVE TO SEE A EARL SWITCH MAYBE IN THAT FOOD HALL.
MAYBE I CAN STILL GET MY ORANGE ADES TOO.
I'M PLEASED TO SEE THAT A LOT OF THE TENANTS ARE NOT ONLY GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY BUT ARE INTERESTED IN CONTINUING THEIR LONG-TERM LEASES.
I WOULD HATE TO SEE SOME OF THOSE LONGTIME BUSINESSES, WHETHER THEY DO A LOT OF BUSINESS CURRENTLY OR NOT, MISS THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE A PART OF SOMETHING EXCITING LIKE THIS.
I LOVE THE IDEA OF TAKING ON IT THAT SECTION OF THE GOTTSCHALKS OR HARRIS, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, AND CONNECTING THOSE PARKING LOTS.
I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT WAS KIND OF MISSING.
I REALLY LIKE THE DATE PALMS AND THE CITRUS INCORPORATED IN THE LANDSCAPING THAT KIND OF BRINGS BACK THE ELEMENTS OF LIKE OUR AGRICULTURAL HISTORY BECAUSE YOU WOULD BE HARD PRESSED TO FIND BESIDES THE SHIELDS GARDENS, DATES GROW OUT HERE IN INDIO ANYMORE, AND ALSO PEOPLE THINK OF US FOR DATES BUT I REMEMBER A LOT OF CITRUS UP AND DOWN JEFFERSON STREET AND MONROE STREET SO I'D LIKE TO SEE THOSE LITTLE CLUSTERS OF CITRUS TREES AS WELL.
I LOVE THOSE CLEAR STORY TOWERS, I THINK YOU CALLED THEM, GIVING A LOT OF NATURAL LIGHTING.
I LIKE HOW THAT ALLOWS YOU TO PROBABLY INCORPORATE SOME OF THAT CONTINUITY OF THE LANDSCAPE PRESIDENT SOUTH SIDE INTO THAT FOOD HALL.
ONE CRITIQUE, AND MAY BE ALONE, I'M JUST NOT A BIG FAN OF THE PALM FRONDS DESIGN ON THE ELEVATIONS.
I WISH I HAD SOMETHING MORE TO SAY OTHER THAN IT JUST SEEMED A LITTLE BIT BUSY, BUT OVERALL I LOVE IT.
I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SEE SOME LIFE BROUGHT TO THAT CORRIDOR.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR.
I'LL JUST SAY AGAIN, I SHARED THIS BEFORE, IT'S VERY PERSONAL BECAUSE I GREW UP RIGHT BEHIND THE MALL AND ONE OF OUR COUNCILMEMBERS DID AS WELL.
WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR 30 YEARS.
I WAS A KID WHEN IT SHUT DOWN AND MY FAMILY GOT THERE, MY MOTHER GOT HER FIRST JOB AT HARRIS' WHEN IT WAS OPEN, AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD BEHIND THERE HAS BEEN ASKING, LIKE AND ARE VERY EXCITED TO SEE THIS COME UP.
AGAIN, I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
AND CAN'T WAIT UNTIL YOU GUYS MOVE FORWARD AND BREAK SOME GROUND ON IT.
AND AT THIS TIME I'LL GO AHEAD AND SEE IF SOMEONE WANTS TO TAKE A STAB AT THE MOTION.
>> VICE CHAIRPERSON YSIANO: I THINK I WROTE DOWN THE AMENDMENTS THAT WE'RE MAKING.
I'D LIKE TO, AND CORRECT ME IF I NEED TO SAY SOMETHING DIFFERENT, PLEASE, LEILA, RECOMMEND THAT WE ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 2001 RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF INDIO, CALIFORNIA CONDITIONALLY APPROVING DESIGN REVIEW 21-04-486 FOR FACADE, PARKING, AND LANDSCAPING REMODEL, RENOVATION OF THE 16.1 ACRES OF AN EXISTING SHOPPING WALL, INDIO MARKETPLACE, AKA FASHION FALL, SUBJECT TO THE FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS OF THE APPROVAL AND DETERMINING THAT THE PROJECT IS EXEMPT FROM THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT AND THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS WILL BE DELETED, CONDITIONS 13, 14, 35 AND 63, AND THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS BEING DELETED FROM RESOLUTION 2001, 13, 34, 61, 62, AND 63.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: I'LL GO AHEAD AND SECOND THE MOTION.
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>> COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ CEJA.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: THANK YOU.
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND START WITH NO STUD I SESSION ITEMS. STAFF ITEMS.
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>> KEVIN SNYDER: YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS, AND I THINK LEILA DOES AS WELL, BUT FIRST OF ALL, ON THE ZONING CODE UPDATE PROJECT, WE HAD ORIGINALLY TALKED ABOUT THE IDEA OF DOING A JOINT STUDY SESSION WITH THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON JULY 21ST BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO NECESSARILY NEED THAT RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THE PROJECT.
I CAN SAY THAT IT MIGHT FEEL LIKE WE'RE WALKING IN THE DESERT AND THERE'S A MIRAGE FAR OFF AS TO WHAT WE THINK IS COMING TO THE WORKING DRAFT BUT IT'S NOT THAT FAR OFF.
OUR CONSULTANT TEAM IS DOING A GREAT JOB AND, AND LEILA AND I HAVE BEEN AVAILING OURSELVES AS MUCH AS WE CAN TO ASSIST THEM.
SO HOPEFULLY IN THE NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE WE'LL HAVE A WORKING DRAFT THAT WE CAN BEGIN TO HAVE THE REAL CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COMMISSION, AND AT THAT TIME WE'LL DETERMINED IF WE REALLY NEED A JOINT MEETING WITH THE COMMISSION AND THE COUNCIL TO HELP FACILITATE THAT CONVERSATION, BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S A LITTLE BIT TOO EARLY.
SO WHAT THIS ALL MEANS IS WE DON'T NEED TO YOU GIVE UP ANY OF YOUR PRECIOUS TIME ON JULY 21ST, SO THERE IS NO SCHEDULED STUDY SESSION ON JULY 21ST, SO THANK YOU FOR INDICATING YOUR AVAILABILITY AND STAY TUNED.
WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK ON THAT.
WE ARE ALSO WORKING VERY FEVERISHLY ON THE HOUSING ELEMENT UPDATE.
LEILA AND I HAVE BEEN GIVING FEEDBACK ALONG WITH JESUS GOMEZ, OUR HOUSING NEIGHBORHOOD PROGRAM MANAGER, TO THE CONSULTANT TEAM.
WE ARE AIMING TO HAVE A PUBLIC REVIEW DRAFT ON THE STREET, SO TO SPEAK, AND SUBMITTED TO THE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT THE FIRST WEEK OF -- OR THE FIRST -- EXCUSE ME -- THE SECOND WEEK OF AUGUST, SO AT THAT TIME THE PUBLIC REVIEW DRAFT WILL BE OUT, FOLKS CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT, THEY CAN COMMENT ON IT.
WE ARE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT TO HCD OR THE HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, AND THEY HAVE A 60 DAYS TO REVIEW IT AND GIVE US THEIR FEEDBACK AND THEN WE HAVE TO, DEPENDING ON THE NATURE OF THE COMMENTS, WE HAVE TO RESPOND.
YOU WILL SEE THAT THOSE TWO PROJECTS, ZONE CODE UPDATE PROJECT AND THE HOUSING ELEMENT PROJECT, HAVE VERY SIMILAR TIMELINES, SO YOU'RE GOING TO COME THIS FALL, YOU WILL NOT WANT FOR TIME WITH US.
WE WILL OCCUPY YOUR MINDS, YOUR THOUGHTS, AND YOUR HEADS WITH ZONING CODE AND HOUSING ELEMENT UPDATE STUFF.
AND I APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE BECAUSE IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO -- AT SOME POINT YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO WANT TO THROW SOMETHING AT US.
IT IS IMPORTANT STUFF AND WE WILL GET THROUGH IT WITH YOU AND GET YOUR INPUT AND YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL AND ULTIMATELY THE WORK WILL BE DONE AND THEN WE'LL HAVE YOUR LEGACY ON IT.
THE OTHER THING TO REPORT IS THAT -- AND YOU MAY THROW SOMETHING AT ME AT THIS TIME -- IS WE WANTED TO SAY GOODBYE TO ONE OF OUR STAFF MEMBERS, GUSTAVO GOMEZ WHO IS OUR ASSISTANT PLANNER HAS TAKEN A POSITION WITH THE COACHELLA VALLEY ASSOCIATION OF GOVERNMENTS, AND HE IS FOLLOWING HIS PASSION, SO WE'RE SAD TO SEE HIM GO BUT WE'RE HAPPY FOR HIM.
FOR THOSE TO THAT DON'T KNOW, GUS IS A AFICIONADO -- I'M GOING TO TRY THAT AGAIN BARBECUE ALL THINS TRANSPORTATION PLANNING, I'LL SAY IT THAT WAY.
AND THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR HIM TO PURSUE HIS PASSION.
WEIGH REALLY HAPPY FOR HIM ALTHOUGH WE'RE SAD TO SEE HIM GO.
GUS JOINED US ABOUT -- THREE YEARS AGO? -- THREE YEARS AGO AS A PART-TIME PLANNING TECHNICIAN WHILE HE WAS FINISHING UP SOME SCHOOLING, AND THEN WE GOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING HIM ON FULL-TIME.
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HE'S DONE AMAZING WORKFORCE US.I'VE ALSO HAD THE PRIVE REG OF WORKING WITH GUS ON TWO PROJECTS, OUR MULTIMODAL FEASIBILITY STUDY AND OUR TRANSFORM CLIMATE PROJECTS AND IN BOTH DISTANCES GUS DID INDISPENSABLE WORK AND WAS VITAL TO THE OF THOSE PROJECTS.
HE WILL BE LEAVING US AT THE ENDS OF NEXT WEEK BUT VERY HAPPY WITH HIM.
WE KNOW WHERE HE LIVES SO HE WENT GO TOO FAR.
I THINK LEILA MIGHT WANT TO SAY SOME THINGS, TOO.
>> LEILA NAMVAR: YEAH, I JUST WANT TO SAY IT IS SAD TO LOSE GUS.
HE'S BEEN HERE WITH ME WHEN THE PLANNING DIVISION WAS JUST ME AND HIM WITH NO DIRECTOR, AND THEN -- SO WHEN WE NEEDED HELP, HE WAS THERE FOR US, SO THAT'S VERY APPRECIATIVE.
AND THAT'S HIS PASSION AND I'M VERY HAPPY THAT HE IS GOING THERE, AND IF THERE IS A POSITION OPEN, PLEASE GIVE ME A RING SO I'LL BE THERE AS WELL.
BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY SINCE LAST AUGUST MY TEAM, WHICH WE ARE FOUR PEOPLE, WE HAVE WRITTEN 81 REPORTS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE CITY COUNCIL, SO THAT'S KUDOS TO GUS, NIKKI AND ROSIE.
THIS IS AMAZING WORK, AND SOMETIMES PEOPLE THINK WE ARE ONLY DOING REPORTS.
NO, IN ADDITION TO THE REPORTS, GUS, AS KEVIN SAID, MANAGED THREE OR FOUR GRANTS.
ONE OF THEM, WHICH WAS THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN, TRANSFORMATIVE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN, GOT AN AWARD FROM THE INLAND EMPIRE PLANNING ASSOCIATION SECTION WHICH, SORRY, KEVIN, TO KICK YOU TO THE SIDE, BUT I THINK ALL KUDOS IS TO GUS FOR THAT AWARD WITH GUIDANCE FROM KEVIN, BUT I WORKED WITH HIM ON OTHER GRANTS.
HIS LEADERSHIP IS OUTSTANDING AND PUTTING ME IN LINE AND GUIDING ME THROUGH IT.
SO THE FACT THAT WE ARE LOSING HIM -- IT'S SAD THAT WE ARE LOSING HIM BUT I HAVE HIM ON MY INSTAGRAM AS A FRIEND AND WE ARE KEEPING CAPTURED HIS WIFE HERE, SO WE ARE STILL BEING TOUCHED.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR HELP AND SERVICE TO THE CITY OF INDIO AND THE PLANNING DIVISION.
THANK YOU SO MUCH AND GOOD LUCK.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: COMMISSIONER COMMENTS.
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>> COMMISSIONER FRANZ: THE ONLY THING I WANT TO SAY IS I'M SORRY YOU'RE LEAVING BUT DON'T WORRY, THIS TOWN'S REALLY SMALL SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET TOO FAR.
AND I HOPE THAT YOU REALLY ENJOY YOUR NEW POSITION, AND THANK YOU FORE ALL THE WORK.
I KNOW THE CITY'S BEEN REALLY BUSY SO THAT'S GOOD.
OTHER THAN THAT I JUST KIND OF WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR DOING THE SLIDE.
I GUESS WE HAD ALL FORGOTTEN WHAT AN IN-PERSON MEETING WAS LIKE BUT I THINK EVERYTHING WENT REALLY WELL AND THE TECHNOLOGY PARTS WAS GREAT, SWITCHING FROM LIVE TO ZOOM TO BACK AND FORTH.
AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I'M ACTUALLY VERY HAPPY TO SEE EVERYBODY GEN IN PERSON.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER FRANZ.
>> NO, IT'S NICE TO SEE SOME FAMILIAR FACES AGAIN IN PERSON AFTER OVER A YEAR AND JACKIE GOT TO USE THE GAVEL FOR THE FIRST TIME.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: COMMISSIONER CEJA.
RODRIGUEZ CEJA: YEAH, I WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO GUS AND I'M SURE THAT OUR PATHS WILL MEET AGAIN.
THROUGH MY 9:00 TO 5:00 I GOT A CHANCE TO DO A MOBILITY AND TRANSPORTATION PLAN FOR THE RIVERSIDE COUNTY EASTERN PLAN, AND I'M SURE WE WILL CONTINUE TO SEE EACH OTHER AS THAT WORK CONTINUES.
I ACTUALLY HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. SNYDER.
MR. SNYDER, ARE YOU SAYING THAT THE ZONING CODE UPDATE IS -- YOU GUYS ARE WORKING ON THAT, AND I JUST WANTED TO VERIFY THAT SOME OF THE CONDITIONS THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PROJECTS THAT HAVE COME UP, SOME THINGS LIKE PUBLIC ARTS IN SOME OF THESE PROJECTS, SHADED PARKING REQUIREMENTS AND RENEWABLE ENERGY REQUIREMENTS, THAT ALL OF THAT IS BEING INCORPORATED OR -- THE QUESTION IS, IS THAT -- ARE YOU TAKING ALL OF THAT AND ADDING IT TO IT OR SHOULD WE BE PREPARING TO COME WITH YOU TO -- WITH A LIST OF ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'VE GOT UP IN THE PREVIOUS YEAR?
>> KEVIN SNYDER: THE SHORT ANSWER IS YES.
BUT IF COMMISSIONER, IF YOU ORE ANY OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE THINGS THAT YOU WOULDN'T TO EMAIL TO LEILA AND I, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO DO IT.
WE HAVE BEEN TAKING NOTES AND WE ARE LOOKING AT THEM AND OBVIOUSLY YOU'LL GET SOMETHING TO REVIEW IN THE FUTURE AND YOU CAN JUDGE WHETHER OR NOT YOU THINK HIT THE MARK.
CERTAINLY DON'T HESITATE THAT YOU EMAIL US YOUR THOUGHTS.
IF SOMETHING COMES TO MIND OR, YOU KNOW, EVEN IFFY WE ALREADY HAVE IT, IT'S NO HARM, NO FOUL IF YOU JUST WANT TO SEND AN EMAIL, PLEASE DO.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: THANK YOU.
>> CHAIRPERSON VALDEZ: I HAVE NOTHING.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: GUS, I JUST WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS.
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IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH YOU.YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE THE END OF ME BECAUSE I'M GOING TO BE AT TRANSPORTATION MEETINGS AND I'M HAPPY TO KNOW THAT YOU WILL BE WORKING WITH MY FORMER COLLEAGUE, MARTINEZ, I DON'T SO YOU'LL BE SEEING A LOT FROM ME ON THE PROFESSIONAL SIDE.
AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS, AND I WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK FOR THE BOOKKEEPER.
>> KEVIN SNYDER: I APOLOGIZE I MAKE ONE MORE COMMENT? I SHOULD HAVE DONE IT EARLIER.
I DO WANT TO ALSO TAKE A MOMENT TO CONGRATULATE REBECCA WINSCOTT WHO IS OUR NEW DEPUTY FIRE MARSHAL AS OF TOMORROW.
SO REBECCA HAS BEEN THREE YEARS?
>> KEVIN SNYDER: TWO YEARS IN THE CITY, SO THAT'S BEEN THE ACTING FIRE MARSHAL.
HER TITLE IS DEPUTY FIRE MARSHAL BUT WHAT THAT MEANS FOR SUS SHE IS OUR FIRE MARSHAL.
I WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS AND WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH HER AND BOTHERING THE HECK OUT OF HER.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: I JUST HAVE ONE OR TWO QUESTIONS.
WHAT IS IT WILL CALLED? THE DUTCH BROS.
ARE WE GOING TO BE INVITED TO THAT GRAND OPENING OR IS IT GOING TO OPEN? BECAUSE I'VE BEEN SEEING THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN PUSHING THROUGH AND I WAS LIKE, OH, MY GOSH, WHEN AM I GOING TO GET INVITED TO THAT?
>> KEVIN SNYDER: SO IT IS GOING TO OPEN.
LEILA HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THEM.
THEY HAD AN ISSUE WITH THE ID THAT THEY FINALLY RESOLVED.
LEILA HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THEM.
I DON'T KNOW THAT A GRAND OPENING HAS BEEN SCHEDULED.
BUT LEILA HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THEM.
THEY HAVE MADE SOME INFIELD ADJUSTMENTS TO THE BUILDING, NOTHING MAJOR, SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH SOME CHANGES WITH THEM.
THEY HAD TO MAKE SOME -- IF YOU NOTICED THE OVERHANG, THERE'S A PIECE OF WOOD THAT THEY ADDED FOR STRUCTURAL SUPPORT AND THEY WILL BE PAINTING TO IT MATCH.
SO I THINK THEY HAVE A GOAL OF EARLY AUGUST IS WHAT WE UNDERSTAND AT THIS POINT.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: I DRIVE BY AND I LOOK.
IS IT OPEN? I WANT AN INVITATION TO GO THIS TO THEIR GRAND OPENING BECAUSE WE'VE ASKING FOR IT FOR SUCH A LONG TIME.
>> KEVIN SNYDER: YOU WILL KNOW WHEN IT'S OPEN BECAUSE THERE WILL BE 800 CARS IN LINE IF IT'S LIKE THE LA QUINTA ONE.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN GET TO THAT LIST.
BUT WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO SEE THAT, AND IT'S REALLY EXCITING TO SEE EVEN ACROSS THE STREET WITH THE.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: YES, IT USED TO BE THE OLD LA QUINTA.
>> COMMISSIONER FRANZ: THE PAINT STORE.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: SO THE THINGS THAT WE PASSED AND APPROVED AND ARE ACTUALLY SEEING IT FROM THE GROUND UP.
IT'S BEEN REALLY COOL TO SEE THAT.
>> KEVIN SNYDER: JUST TO ADD, THAT PROJECT GOT SLOWED.
A LOT OF PROJECTS NOT ONLY IN OUR CITY BUT THROUGHOUT THE STATE AND THE COUNTRY, MATERIAL SHORTAGES HAVE IMPACTED A LOT OF PROJECTS, INCLUDING THAT PROJECT, BUT THEY WERE FINALLY ABLE TO GET THE NEEDED MATERIALS SO THEY'RE BACK AND AND I KNOW THEY'RE RUSHING TO HOPEFULLY HAVE THE PROJECT OPEN LATER THIS MONTH, AND THAT SAME ISSUE IS ALSO IMPACTED THE DUTCH BROS.
AGAIN WANT MATERIALS HAVE BEEN REALLY DIFFICULT TO COME BY, AND SO UNFORTUNATELY SOME OF THESE DISALLOWANCES YOU'VE SEEN ON SOME OF THE PROJECTS AND YOU MAY WONDER WHY THEY'RE NOT MOVING SO QUICKLY IS BECAUSE ACCESS TO MATERIALS IS DIFFICULT, ALTHOUGH IT SEEMS TO BE GETTING A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
AND I GUESS YOU KNOW I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND USE IN SINCE YOU ONLY HAD MAYBE ONE OR TWO MEETINGS, I AM GOING TO GIVE YOU THE GAVEL SO YOU CAN ADJOURN THE MEETING.
>> COMMISSIONER FRANZ: YOU SHOULDN'T GIVE ME THIS.
YOU HAVE TO CLOSE THE MEETINGS.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: I GUESS MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.
>> COMMISSIONER FRANZ: I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: ROLL CALL.
>> COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ CEJA.
RODRIGUEZ CEJA: THANK EVERYONE.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.