>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: GOOD EVENING.
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WELCOME TO OUR INDIO PLANNING COMMISSION.MY NAME IS JACQUELINE LOPEZ AND I'M GOING TO CALL THIS INDIO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TO ORDER.
IF WE CAN PLEASE GET ROLL CALL.
IN >> CHAIR PERSON JACQUELINE LOPEZ.
>> COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ CEJA.
>> COMMISSIONER ESPERANZA VALDEZ.
AND IF YOU CAN PLEASE GET THE INTRODUCTION OF STAFF.
>> LEILA NAMVAR: GOOD EVENING, MADAME CHAIRPERSON AND BOARD.
TONIGHT WE HAVE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR KEVIN SNYDER, EVELYN BELTRAN SECRETARY, ZACH HEINZMAN OUR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY, BREAK WINSCOTT, OUR FIRE MARSHAL, MYSELF LEILA NAMVAR SENIOR PLANNER.
>> AND AT THIS TIME WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND STEWART LEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND START THE PLEDGE.
PLEASE PUT YOUR HAND OVER YOUR HEART.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
IF WE CAN GET A STATEMENT FROM OUR COMMISSION SECRETARY.
[4. STATEMENT FROM THE COMMISSION SECRETARY]
>> EVELYN BELRAN: THANK YOU THE GENERAL RULES OF COURTESY FOR VIRTUAL MEETINGS ARE FOLLOWS.
PLEASE BE MINDFUL OF BACKGROUND NOISE.
WHEN JOINING THE MEETING VIRTUALLY, VIRTUAL MEETING PARTICIPANTS MUST MUTE THEIR MICROPHONE WHEN THEY ARE NOT SPEAKING.
WHEN YOUR MICROPHONE IS NOT MUTED, AVOID ACTIVITY THAT COULD CREATE ADDITIONAL NOISE.
POSITION YOUR CAMERA PROPERLY.
IF YOU CHOOSE TO USE A WEB CAMERA BE SURE IT IS IN A STABLE POSITION AND FOCUSED AT EYE LEVEL IF POSSIBLE IF YOU WILL BE SHARING CONTENT DURING THE MEETING, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE FILE AND/OR LINKS READY TO GO BEFORE THE MEETING BEGINS.
MEMBERS FROM THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATING VIRTUALLY WISHING TO PROVIDE ORAL TESTIMONY MUST FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS ON THE AGENDA AND/OR ONLINE IN ORDER TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR AGENDA OR NON-AGENDA ITEMS. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATING VIRTUALLY WISHING TO PROVIDE ORAL TESTIMONY HAVE THREE MINUTES TO PROVIDE ORAL TESTIMONY.
[5. STATEMENT FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY]
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: IF WE CAN GET OUR STATEMENT FROM OUR CITY ATTORNEY.
>> ZACH HEINSELMAN: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
THERE HAVE BEEN NO DIRECTIVES ISSUE TELL TEMPORARILY HALTING LOCAL GOVERNMENT PROCESSING OF LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT OF APPLICATIONS AND/OR CONSIDERATION OF POLICY ACTIONS INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENTS, ZONING CODE AMENDMENTS AND NEW OR AMENDED SPECIFIC PLANS.
THEREFORE THE CITY OF INDIO CONTINUES TO ACCEPT AND PROCESS APPLICATIONS IN ACCORDANCE WITH WITH STATE AND LOCAL REQUIREMENTS.
THE CITY OF INDIO IS FOLLOWING GOVERNOR.
NEWSOM'S EXECUTIVE ORDER N-25-20 AND N-29-20 PERTAINING TO THE BROWN ACT.
THESE EXECUTIVE ORDERS ALLOW GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES TO CONDUCT MEETINGS BY ELECTRONIC MEANS AND FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO OBSERVE THE MEETING ELECTRONICALLY AS WELL AS PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT OR PUBLIC TESTIMONY TELEPHONICALLY OR OTHERWISE ELECTRONICALLY.
ACCORDINGLY, THE CITY COUNCIL AND PLANNING COMMISSION ARE CURRENTLY CONDUCTING SCHEDULED MEETINGS IN A HYBRID IN-PERSON AND VIRTUAL MEETING FORMAT.
THE CITY OF INDIO HAS IMPLEMENTED TECHNOLOGY SOLUTIONS THAT ALLOW MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO OBSERVE AND OFFER AS WELL AS PUBLICLY.
THE VIRTUAL DURING PUBLIC EARRINGS AND AT DUELED PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS.
THE CITY IS COMMITTED TO PROVIDING PUBLIC PARTICIPATION OPPORTUNITIES WHILE ALSO COMPLYING WITH THE REQUIREMENTS FOR PROCESSING OF LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW APPLICATIONS AND/OR CONSIDERATION OF POLICY ACTIONS.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: THANK YOU.
MOVING ON ITEM 6, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA?
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: SEEING THAT THERE ARE NO MINUTES, PUBLIC HEARING OR ACTION ITEMS, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO NUMBER 10 WHEN IS STUDY SESSION ITEMS.
[10.1 Palm Storage – Project Consultation]
10.1, PALM STORAGE PROJECT CONSULTATION.A PROJECT CONSULTATION TO CONSIDER THE USE AND A CONCEPT SITE PLAN FOR A PROPOSED RV STORAGE FACILITY LOCATED ON A 2.94-ACRE SITE.
>> LEILA NAMVAR: GOOD EVENING, AGAIN.
AS YOU MENTIONED, THIS HAS A CONSULTATION.
SO THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING.
WE'RE JUST GOING TO GO OVER WHAT THE APPLICANT PROPOSES, AND TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAY HAVE.
SO IF I MOVE THIS A LITTLE LOWER, I APOLOGIZE.
SO THE PROJECT IS LOCATED WEST OF COMMERCE STREET, AVENUE 45 WITH SOME HERE AND IT INCLUDES THESE TWO PARCELS, PARCEL ON THE TOP AND PARCEL TO THE SOUTH.
THERE'S THE EXTRA PARCEL OR ADDITIONAL PARCEL HERE WHICH THE APPLICANT DOESN'T OWN.
THE ZONING FOR THE SUBJECT PROJECT AT THIS TIME IS INDUSTRIAL PARK, WHICH ALLOWS MIN STORAGE AS A PERMITTED, HOWEVER, THE GENERAL PLAN IS WORKFORCE EMPLOYMENT WITH THE MAIN GOAL OF CREATING JOBS AND ALSO COVERING OUR INDUSTRIAL
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USES.THIS IS WHAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING.
AS YOU SEE, THERE ARE FIVE BUILDINGS ON THE SITE, A, B, C, D AND E, AND EACH OF THEM, THERE IS A BREAKDOWN HERE THAT SHOWS HOW MANY UNITS ARE THERE OR HOW MANY SPACES, I SHOULD SAY, ARE THERE AND WHAT IS THE SQUARE FOOTAGE.
SO THE APPLICANT BASICALLY IS PROPOSING AN RV OR BOAT STORAGE, WHICH WILL BE COVERED OR UNCOVERED.
ALSO, THERE'S AN OFFICE FOR THE, HE IS OFFERING OR PROPOSING TWO OFFICE UNITS WHICH RENTED OR LEASED FOR OFFICE SPACE IN THE FRONT, AND THE SITE WILL BE ACCESSIBLE BETWEEN 9:00 AND 3:00 BY THE MANAGER ON-SITE AND ALSO IT IS AVAILABLE 24/7 VIA CODE.
THE STORAGE FACILITY WILL ALSO EMPLOY BETWEEN TWO TO FIVE EMPLOYEES.
SO STAFF AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO GET FEEDBACK FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON THE DESIGN AND ON THE BASICALLY USE.
AND AS I SAID THIS IS A UNIQUE SITUATION HERE WHICH THE APPLICANT IS OFFERING STORAGE AND ADDITIONAL OFFICES, SO THERE'S A COMMERCIAL COMPONENT TO IT AS WELL.
THE APPLICANT IS HERE IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM HIM.
AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: THANK YOU, LEILA.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ITEM BEFORE WE -- SEEING THAT THERE ARE NONE, MR. HADIKI.
DID I PRONOUNCE YOUR LAST NAME CORRECT?
MY NAME IS JACOB I'M A LOCAL REAL ESTATE BROKER WITH 15 YEARS OF REAL ESTATE EXPERIENCE.
LIVE HERE IN INDIO, GREW UP HERE IN INDIO.
HOPEFULLY THAT HELPS FOR SOMETHING.
I'M NOT A BIG CORPORATION BUT I WOULD LOVE TO OPEN A BUSINESS HERE IN INDIO, MY HOMETOWN.
SO THERE'S BASICALLY THREE DIFFERENT TYPES OF RV STORAGE PROJECTS.
THERE IS UNCOVERED WHICH IS THE CHEAPEST THAT IS OUT IN THE SUN, WHICH THERE'S ONE CALLED CHILLED STORAGE HERE IN INDIO WHICH OFFERS THAT.
AND THEN THERE'S ALSO COVERED STORAGE, WHICH IS CANOPIES, STUFF LIKE THAT, WHICH IS ALSO OFFERED IN INDIO.
THERE'S ONE CALLED PRIME STORAGE HERE IN INDIO WHICH OFFERS COVERED.
AND THEN THERE'S INDOOR CLIMATE CONTROLLED, WHICH IS THE HIGHEST PRICE WHERE YOU GET YOUR OWN GARAGE, AND THAT'S THE HIGHEST PRICE POINT.
SO THERE IS A NEED FOR LIKE A MID PRICE POINT WHERE IT'S COVERED, IT WILL BE MOSTLY COVERED PARKING, CANOPIES.
IT WILL BE A GREEN PROJECT, ALL LED LIGHTING, DROUGHT RESISTANT LANDSCAPING, SO IT WILL BE A GREEN PROJECT.
ALL THESE BUSINESSES, I DID MENTION THEY'RE ON A WAIT LIST SO THEY CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE ANY SPOTS AVAILABLE.
ABOUT 11% OF HOUSEHOLDS HAVE AN RV, SO THERE'S A BIG NEED HERE IN INDIO TO OFFER SOME TYPE OF STORAGE AT THAT MID PRICE POINT LEVEL.
DOWN THE STREET FROM THIS COMMERCE STREET WHERE THE PARCELS OF LAND ARE, THERE IS SOME INDOOR STORAGE, AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A WAREHOUSE STORAGE, NOTHING THAT'S COVERED OUTDOOR.
SO THAT'S LIKE THE MID PRICE POINT, WHICH THERE'S A BIG NEED.
I'M BASICALLY HERE TO TRY TO GET ANY TYPE OF FEEDBACK AS FAR AS ARCHITECTURE, COLORS YOU WOULD LIKE, BUILDING STYLES.
I KNOW UP AND DOWN THE STREET THERE'S LIKE BLOCK STYLE BUILDINGS, SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE WITH THAT OR IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING MORE MODERN, BUT IT WILL BE AN UPSCALE AESTHETICS.
I PLAN TO HAVE PALM TREES OUT FRONT, AND A REALLY, REALLY NICE EXTERIOR, WELCOMING.
I WANT IT TO FEEL MORE LIKE A COUNTRY CLUB THAN JUST A STORAGE LOT.
THE SITE PLAN IS VERY PRELIMINARY.
I MEAN IT'S JUST A ROUGH I WANTED TO SHOW SOMETHING BUT IT'S OPEN TO ANY SUGGESTIONS.
THOSE SIZES, THEY CAN VARY IN SIZE.
IT SHOWS ON THE SITE PLAN IS 12 BY 35 BUT IT CAN BE ANYWHERE FROM 12 BY 20 TO 12 BY 40, AND THE LAYOUT BE GO BE CAN BE ADJUSTED.
I'M HERE FOR SUGGESTIONS OR ANY KIND OF FEEDBACK YOU CAN GIVE ME.
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>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: THANK YOU.
COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT?
>> COMMISSIONER FRANZ: I DO, IF I MAY, MADAME CHAIR.
SO I THINK ONE OF MY QUESTIONS IS THE OFFICE SPACE, SO THE OFFICE IS NOT FOR USE WITH THE RV STORAGE FACILITY.
IT'S GOING TO BE A SEPARATE RENTABLE SPACE? DID I UNDERSTAND THAT CORRECTLY?
RIGHT NOW I'M LOOKING A 24 BY 40 BUILDING SO THERE WILL BE FOUR OFFICES.
I PLANT TO MAINTAIN THE CLIENTELE THERE FOR WHOEVER NEEDS HELP WITH THE RV STORAGE SITE.
AND THEN I ALSO WANT TO HAVE TWO ADDITIONAL OFFICES JUST TO LEASE OUT FOR OFFICE SPACE.
BUT, YES, ALL UNDER ONE, ONE BUILDING.
>> COMMISSIONER FRANZ: ALL UNDER ONE BUILDING.
SO YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE IS A FEW OF THESE CHILLED STORAGE I THINK PRIME AND THERE'S ONE THAT'S AIR KIDNEY GUESS, THE HIGHER END ONE.
HOW CLOSE ARE YOU TO THESE FACILITIES NOW AND WHY DID YOU SELECT THIS PARTICULAR AREA?
>> MOSTLY BECAUSE THE ZONING, VIP ZONING AND TWO PARCELS OF LAND THERE.
AND, YES, THERE'S SOME THAT ARE ON CABAZON.
THE INDOOR STORAGE IS OFF OF CABAZON.
THOSE UNITS GO ANYWHERE FROM $800 TO UP AS HIGH AS $2,000 DEPENDING ON HOW BIG YOU WANT IT, CLIMATE CONTROLLED, DEPENDING ON THE OPTIONS YOU WANT.
THEN THERE'S ONE WITHIN A MILE THAT'S A STORAGE THAT'S KIND OF LIKE A VALET STORAGE.
YOU SIGN UP, LEAVE YOUR KEYS, AND THEN THEY PARK IT INSIDE THIS BIG WAREHOUSE NEXT TO OTHER UNITS.
SO THERE'S QUITE A FEW DIFFERENT TYPES OF PRODUCTS.
BUT I THINK WHAT'S MISSING IS SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO OFFER, WHICH IS COVERED, OUTDOOR BECAUSE IT'S LIKE A MID PRICE POINT.
NOT EVERYONE'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD TIN DOOR STORAGE.
AND THEN THE FULLY UNCOVERED STORAGE, THERE'S REALLY ONLY ONE OR TWO PLACES HERE IN INDIO.
ONE IS THE TOY BOXED RV OFF OF JACKSON ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FREEWAY, AND THEN THERE'S SHIELD STORAGE WHICH ARE BOTH FULLY UNCOVERED.
BUT WANT IT SOMETHING NICER TO SHOW OUT THERE.
>> COMMISSIONER FRANZ: SO IT YOU SOUNDS LIKE ONCE THE BUSINESS IS UP AND RUNNING, PEOPLE WILL COME IN AND DROP OFF THEIR RV WHENEVER THEY NEED IT TO STORE IT AND THEY CAN COME AND TAKE IT OUT ANY TIME THEY WANT PRETTY MUCH.
>> AND THAT WILL BE FULLY AUTOMATED, CON TICKET LAST NOW THAT EVERYBODY IS USED TO THE COVID.
YOU'LL BE ABLE TO GO ONLINE, GET YOUR ACCESS SPACE AND JUST PULL UP TO THE GATE AND GET ACCESS RIGHT AWAY ONCE YOU'RE SIGNED UP ONLINE, BUT THERE WILL BE AN OFFICE FOR ANYBODY NEEDING ADDITIONAL ASSISTANCE AS WELL AS A HOTLINE YOU CAN CALL FOR CUSTOMER SERVICE, AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE ACCESS 24/7 UNLESS YOU WANT TO ADJUST THE HOURS.
AND THEN I HAVE BEEN IN TALKS WITH ID TO TRY TO HAVE SOME SOLAR, POWER WALL.
THE STRUCTURES WILL BE MADE OF RECYCLABLE STEEL AND, OF COURSE, THE DROUGHT RESISTANT LANDSCAPING WITH 100%.
AND THE RV STORAGE IS ONE OF THE QUIETEST BUSINESSES YOU CAN HAVE, VERY LOW TRAFFIC AND SO IT WILL HAVE A VERY SMALL FOOTPRINT, MINIMAL TRAFFIC.
>> COMMISSIONER FRANZ: SO I LOVE ALL OF THAT THAT YOU'VE GONE, TRIED TO LOOK AT SOLAR, ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY, ALL THAT KIND OF THING.
WHAT KIND OF SECURITY WILL THERE BE IF EVERYBODY'S GOING TO HAVE ACCESS ON THEIR OWN AND THEY COULD COME AT 3:00 THE IN MORNING OR WHATEVER THEY WANT TO GET IN AND OUT? I MEAN, THAT AREA IS NOT HIGH TRAFFIC, SO IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO COME IN AND DO SOME DAMAGE, WHAT KIND OF -- ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE CAMERAS AND SENSORS OR WHAT KIND OF SECURITY DO YOU PLAN TO HAVE?
THAT WILL BE COMPLETELY BLOCK WALLED, WALL LIT, 24-HOUR SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS, ACCESS GATE, AND IT HELPS THAT IT'S RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE U.S.
THEY HAVE PATROL CARS THAT ARE IN AND OUT OF THERE, SO I THINK THAT ADDS ANOTHER LEVEL OF SECURITY THAT A LOT OF PLACES CAN'T OFFER.
THEY'RE ALWAYS IN AND OUT AND THEY LOOK LIKE PATROL CARS, AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO HELP AS WELL.
BUT I IT'S GOING TO BE WELL LIT, HIGHLY SECURED, CAMERAS, ON-SITE MANAGER.
>> COMMISSIONER FRANZ: SO MY ON OTHER QUESTION IS THIS IS ANT AREA BEE WERE TRYING TO CREATE JOBS.
HOW MANY JOBS WILL THIS -- NOT THE BUILDINGS AND CONSTRUCTION PART OF IT BUT
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THE OVERALL MAINTENANCE AND SUPPORT? ARE WE LOOKING TWO JOBS? ARE WE LIGHTING FIVE?>> ONCE IT'S FULLY OCCUPIED ANYWHERE FROM TWO TO FIVE EMPLOYEES.
THAT'S WHY I WANT THE ADDITIONAL OFFICE SO I CAN HAVE THE ROOM TO GROW INTO IT.
AT THE BEGINNING TWO OFFICES MAY BE EMPTY NIL LEASE THEM OUT, AND THEN AS THE BUSINESS GROWS I CAN HIRE.
AND ANOTHER COMPONENT WOULD BE ALSO RV RETAIL PRODUCTS.
SO I CAN HAVE A SMALL SHOWROOM WHERE I CAN SELL RV PRODUCTS, TO SOME OF THE RV GORES.
PLEASE DON'T GET CONFUSED WITH MINI STORAGE WHERE YOU GET EVERY CROWD AND THEY ARE IN AND OUT.
THIS IS RV OWNERS WHICH TYPICALLY SPEND $100,000 TO $300,000 ON THEIR RVS, SO IT'S KIND OF AN UPSTALE CLIENT, AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET AS MUCH TRAFFIC AS YOU DO WITH MINI STORAGE.
>> COMMISSIONER FRANZ: SO YOU'RE GOING TO WANT A RETAIL, SOME KIND OF A RESELL COMPONENT IN THERE IN THE FUTURE.
YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE THINGS THAT WE NEED, OF COURSE, THE SERVICE BUT ALSO PROVIDE JOBS ARE A GOOD ADDITION TO THE AREA.
WHEN IT COMES TO DESIGN, IF YOU'VE BEEN LISTENING TO ANY OF OUR PREVIOUS MEETINGS, WE'RE KIND OF GOING FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A MODERN LOOK AND SOMETHING THAT IS UNIQUE, NOT YOUR AVERAGE STORAGE, SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE LIGHTING AND THE PLANS, THAT'S ALL IMPORTANT TO US, AND THE COLORS.
WE WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING UNIQUE, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S SOMETHING YOU'RE INTERESTED IN, SO FROM MY COMMENTS, I THINK MODERN, WE CAN DEFINITELY TRY TO GO MORE MODERN ON OUR BUILDINGS.
THE GREEN ELEMENT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO US.
AND, OF COURSE, THE FACT THAT THERE WILL BE AT LEAST A LITTLE BIT OF JOBS CREATED AND, OF COURSE, THE CONSTRUCTION PART OF IT WILL CREATE SOME.
FOR ME I'D LIKE IF YOU COME BACK WITH SOMETHING MORE DETAIL THAT WOULD HAVE SOMETHING DIFFERENT, SOMETHING CREATIVE APPORTIONED TO IT, AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH MY COMMENTS AND MY QUESTIONS ON THIS PROJECT.
>> ONE MORE THING ON THAT SITE PLAN WHICH IS AGAIN VERY PRELIMINARY.
I SHOW THE RETENTION BASIN IN THE FRONT WHICH I PLAN TO FULLY LANDSCAPE WITH BOULDERS, NICE PALM TREES, BUT ON THE INTERIOR WOULD YOU GUYS LEAN MORE TOWARDS HAVING LIKE A LANDSCAPED AREA ALSO ON INTERIOR? WOULD THAT HELP? OR CAN IT BE ALL PAVED ON THE INSIDE?
>> COMMISSIONER FRANZ: I THINK FOR ME I'D PREFER NOT TO HAVE IT ALL PAVED.
AGAIN, IT MAKES EVERYTHING HOTTER AND WE ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH PROBLEMS WITH THE HEAT, SO I THINK WHATEVER YOU COULD DO TO REDUCE THAT, THE HEAT IMPACT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT AND, OF COURSE, IT'S HARD BECAUSE THIS IS, YOU'RE BRINGING IN LARGE RVS AND THEY'RE JUST ANOTHER BIG HOT THING TO SIT THERE, BUT IF YOU WOULD KEEP THAT IN MIND THE WAY SHADE STRUCTURES BUILD OR THE KIND OF PLANTS YOU PUT IN THAT WOULD HELP TO REDUCE THAT, I THINK THAT WOULD BE BETTER THAN JUST ALL ASPHALT AND CEMENT.
I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD -- AT LEAST FOR MYSELF THAT I WOULD REALLY WANT TO SEE.
>> AND THE STRUCTURES SHOULD HELP A LITTLE BIT WITH THAT AS WELL, WITH PROVIDING PLENTY OF SHADING ON THE INSIDE.
>> COMMISSIONER FRANZ: THAT'S ALL MY COMMENTS.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER FRANZ.
ANY FURTHER COMMENTS FROM ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS?
RODRIGUEZ CEJA: I'D JUST LIKE TO CONCUR WITH COMMISSIONER FRANZ.
ANY WAY OF TRYING TO MITIGATE SOME OF THE HEAT CREATED BY JUST ALL PAVED IS ALES PROBLEM, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE A BENEFIT TO YOUR CLIENTELE AS WELL.
I THINK THAT BRINGING BACK SOMETHING THAT SOMETHING THAT IS MODERN, SOMETHING THAT IS CREATIVE TO KIND OF SEE IF THERE'S A WAY TO LIFT UP THE APPEARANCE OF THE STREET AS YOU'RE DRIVING IN, I THINK YOUR CLIENTS WOULD ALSO REALLY ENJOY THAT AND I THINK IT WOULD BE A BENEFIT, PARTICULARLY TO THE AREA, SO LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT ELSE YOU COME BACK WITH.
AND I KNOW THERE'S A BUILDING TO THE NORTH.
I'M NOT QUITE SURE, BUT IT'S KIND OF RUN DOWN.
I'M HOPING ONCE I CAN COME IN THERE I CAN AT LEAST CLEAN UP THE EXTERIOR OF THERE, EVEN OF THEIR SITE BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT A BUNCH OF TRASH OUT THERE, BUT
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HOPEFULLY THAT'S PART OF THE PLANS, I CAN CLEAN THAT UP, TOO, AND PUT IN SOME NICE LANDSCAPING.>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS RODRIGUEZ CEJA.
>> CHAIRPERSON VALDEZ: I DO HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
DO YOU HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE IN RUNNING AN RV STORAGE? HAVE YOU RUN A RV STORAGE FACILITY BEFORE?
>> I HAVE DONE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT FOR CLOSE TO 20 YEARS, VERY SIMILAR.
I'M USED TO DEALING WITH TENANTS AND RENTALS AND THEY HAVE PLUMBING ISSUES AND AIR CONDITIONING ISSUES AND YOU'VE GOT TO SOMETIMES WORK WITH THEM OR SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, A EVICT THEM OR EXTEND THEIR LEASES.
THIS IS A LOT EASIER FOR ME BECAUSE I'M JUST MANAGING PARKING SPACES.
THERE'S NOT MUCH THEY CAN RUIN THERE.
THEY SPEND A LOT MONEY ON THEIR RVS.
BUT, YES, I DO HAVE LOTS OF EXPERIENCE.
>> CHAIRPERSON VALDEZ: AND THEN GOING BACK TO THE WORKFORCE AREA, FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OR ANY OF THE WORK THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO ON THE PROPERTY, IT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE LOCAL, HIRE LOCAL AND CREATE SOME JOB OPPORTUNITIES THAT WAY.
I'M ACTUALLY WORKING WITH ALLEN AND BRIAN MCGEE WHICH I THINK THEY HAVE WORKED WITH THE CITY QUITE A BIT.
I WOULD LOVE TO AT LEAST FIRST GIVE EVERYBODY LOCAL A CHANCE.
>> CHAIRPERSON VALDEZ: THE OPPORTUNITY.
AND AS FAR AS THE WORKPLACE, YEAH, AS I FILL THE SPOTS AND GROW AND HOPEFULLY ADD SOME RETAIL, HOPEFULLY I CAN HIRE AS MANY PEOPLE AS I CAN.
>> CHAIRPERSON VALDEZ: AND MAYBE DOWN THE LINE ONCE YOU'RE ESTABLISHED OFFERING MAYBE LIKE A -- CREATING A JOB TO WASH THE RVS FOR THE OWNERS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
>> CHAIRPERSON VALDEZ: THAT'S AN INCENTIVE AND LIKE I SAID SOME JOBS FOR PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY.
>> SO AS FAR AS THE WORKFORCE EMPLOYMENT, IS THERE LIKE A NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES YOU'RE LOOKING FOR? IS THERE LIKE A GUIDELINES FOR THAT?
>> CHAIRPERSON VALDEZ: I'D HAVE TO REFER TO STAFF.
>> LEILA NAMVAR: SO AT THIS POINT WE DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION BECAUSE WE ARE GOING THROUGH THE ZONING CODE UPDATE, BUT FOR FIRST EMPLOYMENT IT COULD BE SOMETHING FROM LIKE 20 PEOPLE TO 200 OR 300 PEOPLE.
DEPENDS ON WHAT TYPE OF FACILITIES OR WHAT TYPE OF COMPANY.
BUT -- SO JUST THE MUNICIPAL RATE IS USUALLY OR THE STORAGE HAS VERY MINIMUM EMPLOYEES.
THE KIND THAT YOU HAVE INCLUDES OFFICES SO THAT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S OPPORTUNITY FOR MORE HIGHER.
>> COMMISSIONER LOPEZ: THANK YOU.
>> VICE CHAIRPERSON YSIANO: NOTHING REALLY TO ADD OTHER THAN ECHOING THE COMMISSIONERS, BUT I DO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE FROM OUR COMMUNITY, TRYING TO KEEP YOUR BUSINESS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BUT I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF OR FOR KEVIN.
SEEING THAT THIS AREA IS ZONED FOR EMPLOYMENT, ARE WE TAKING ANY INVENTORY OF LIKE HOW MUCH SPACE WE HAVE LEFT FOR THAT AND WHEREAS WE ARE PLANNING FOR OUR GENERAL PLAN OR MAKING SURE -- I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE AN INVENTORY FOR WHAT LEAH JUST MENTIONED, YOU WORK BETWEEN UP TO 200 LIKE WORKFORCE FOR THOSE TYPES OF EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES OR BUSINESS THAT WOULD COME INTO THAT ZONE.
>> KEVIN SNYDER: AS PART OF THE GENERAL PLAN PROCESS WE DID IDENTIFY THE ACREAGE THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE.
SO AS LEILA POINTED OUT, WE ARE WORKING ON THE ZONING CODE UPDATE.
AS PART OF THAT, THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND ALSO THE CITY COUNCIL WILL DEPEND ON KIND OF LAND USES YOU WANT TO ALLOW OR MAYBE HAVE LIMITED ALLOWANCE FOR AND AS BEEN NOTICED SEVERAL TIMES WORKPLACE EMPLOYMENT DISTRICT IS FOCUSED ON JOB CREATION TO CREATE MORE LOCAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR INDIO RESIDENTS SO THAT'S THEY DON'T NEED TO TRAVEL OUT OF THE COMMUNITY.
AS THOSE REGULATIONS MAKE THEIR APPEARANCE BEFORE YOU, THAT'LL BE THE TIME FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO REALLY LOOK AT THE LAND USES AND WHAT YOU THINK IS APPROPRIATE TO ENCOURAGE THE JOB CREATION GOAL OF THE GENERAL PLAN.
>> I GUESS WHAT MY QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE WE HAVE NOW ON HAND?
>> KEVIN SNYDER: I BELIEVE IF MY MEMORY SERVES WE CORRECTLY WE HAVE IDENTIFIED APPROXIMATELY 500 ACRES FOR WORKPLACE EMPLOYMENT DISTRICT.
A LOT OF THAT IS OUR EXISTING INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING AND BUSINESS
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PARK AND LEILA CAN CORRECT ME, ZONED LAND, SO IT'S ROUGHLY AROUND 500 ACRES, AND SO WE'LL HAVE TO KEEP AN EYE ON THAT.NOW, HAVING SAID THAT, THAT INVENTORY CAN ALSO BE ADDED TO OVER TIME.
THERE ARE ALWAYS OPPORTUNITIES TO GO THROUGH AN AMENDMENT PROCESS ON THE GENERAL PLAN AND REZONING IN THE FUTURE TO ADD TO THAT, BUT RIGHT AROUND AS WE DID WITH THE GENERAL PLAN UPDATE IT WAS APPROXIMATELY 500 ACRES.
INCLUDING THE PROPERTY WE'RE DISCUSSING THIS EVENING.
SO IF IT WENT INTO THE PROPOSED USE, THEN THAT LAND WOULD BE CAPTURED, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, NOT THAT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT AT SOME POINT IT COULDN'T BE REDEVELOPED FOR MORE INTENSIVE BUT THE PROPOSAL IN FRONT OF YOU IS IN LINE WITH THE CURRENT ZONING, AS LEILA POINTED OUT TO YOU.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: THANK YOU.
NO FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
IF YOU HAVE COMMENTS ON HOW TO MOVE FORWARD.
NEXT ITEM WE HAVE 10.2, RESELL STORE PROJECT CONSULTATION.
[10.2 Resell Store – Project Consultation]
A PROJECT CONSULTATION TO CONSIDER A RESELL STORE TO BE LOCATED WITHIN THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL CC ZONE SNIDE AN EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER.>> ZACH HEINSELMAN: MY POLICIES, LEILA.
IF I COULD CONFIRM WITH MS. BELTRAN THAT NO PUBLIC COMMENT WAS RECEIVED ON THE THE LAST AGENDA ITEM.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A NOTE OF IT.
>> EVELYN BELRAN: NO PUBLIC COMMENT WAS RECEIVED FOR ITEM 10.1.
THIS ITEM BEFORE YOU IS A RESELL FACILITY OR A RESELL STORE.
THIS IS AGAIN A PROJECT CONSULTATION.
THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO DISCUSS HIS PROPOSAL WITH YOU.
SO THE SITE WILL BE ONE OF THE SUITES WITHIN THE EXISTING WILLIS CENTER WHICH IS ON THE WEST OF JACKSON, SOUTH OF AVENUE 44.
AS YOU MAY REMEMBER, THERE USED TO BE A GROCERY STORE HERE, WHICH IT WENT AWAY MANY YEARS AGO, BUT CURRENTLY THERE ARE DIFFERENT BUSINESSES WITHIN THE BUILDING AND THERE ARE SEVERAL VACANT, VACANCIES AS WELL.
THE ZONING FOR THE SITE IS COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL, AND THEN THE GENERAL PLAN IS NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER.
SO CURRENTLY THE CITY ZONING REQUIRES APPROVAL OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR RESELL STORE OR GIFT SHOP OR SECONDHAND DEALERSHIP.
THE APPLICANT IS BASICALLY PROPOSING TO HAVE A RESELL FACILITY WHICH INCLUDES SEVERAL ITEMS, SUCH AS FURNITURE, CLOTHING, ELECTRONICS, AND OTHER HOUSEHOLD ITEMS THAT COULD BE SOLD OR RESOLD TO THE PUBLIC.
THE APPLICANT IS HERE JUST TO GET FEEDBACK FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
SINCE THIS IS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION CAN APPROVE OR DENY IT BASED ON THE FINDINGS THAT ZACH NEEDS TO MAKE.
SO IN ORDER TO MINIMIZE THE RISK, THEY ARE HERE TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK AND TO SEE IF THAT'S A USE THAT THEY SHOULD GO AHEAD AND APPLY FOR A FULL APPLICATION.
AS I SAID, THE APPLICANT IS HERE IN THE AUDIENCE, MR. GERONIMO.
AND I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: THANK YOU, LEILA.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME FORWARD? TALK TO US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT YOU PLAN TO DO WITH REGARDS TO RETAIL STORE.
SO THAT'S LIKE -- COULD YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT.
THE FIRST TIME HERE SO KIND OF A LITTLE NERVOUS.
THE IDEA IS I WAS SEEKING CONSULTATION IN ORDER FOR ME TO KNOW WHAT MY PERCENTAGE OF MY POSSIBILITIES ARE FOR GETTING THE SPECIAL PERMIT LIKE LEILA MENTIONED, AND IT'S A STORE BASICALLY OF SELLING ALL ITEMS OUTSIDE, CLOTHES, FURNITURE, ANYTHING
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THAT YOU HAVE IN THE HOUSE BASICALLY, SECONDHAND ITEMS THAT PEOPLE -- THAT ARE IN EXCELLENT CONDITION BUT ON A LOWER PRICE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN NEED OF IT.SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH -- I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TO TELL YOU.
ANY SINGLE ITEM YOU FIND IN YOUR HOUSE AND WE COME ACROSS AND WE GET FOR A SMALL FEE, RESELL IT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT NEED IT TO GET IT -- BECAUSE I VISIT A LOT OF THE -- A LOT OF THE SECONDHAND STORES, BUT THEIR PRICES ARE KIND OF HIGH TO MY VIEWING, SO I'M TRYING TO SEE IF I COULD FINING, YOU KNOW, A WAY TO OPEN A STORE WHERE I COULD GET THE PRICES DOWN FOR THE PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY AT FIRST I STARTED WHEN COVID STARTED.
I WORKED FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OF COACHELLA BUT WHEN THE COVID STARTED WE GOT LAID OFF.
NOT LAIDUT OFF BUT HOURS SHRUNK AND ALL THAT SO I STARTED WORKING WITH A COMPANY THATY DOES REAL ESTATE SALES SO A LOT OF ITEMS COME TO ME IN A SMALL AMOUNT, SMALL FEES, AND I WAS GETTING THEM TO PEOPLE OUT THERE, PEOPLE THAT ARE IN NEED.
BUT GOING BACK AND FORTH, KIND OF IT'S GETTING OUT OF MY BUDGET NOW SO I'M LOOKING FOR A PLACE THAT IT'S IN MY BUDGET SO I COULD HAVE ACCESS TO THE PEOPLE OUT THERE.
SO I'M TRYING TO SEE IF WHAT MY POSSIBILITIES ARE FOR OPENING A RETAIL STORE, I MEAN, A SECONDHAND STORE AT THE INDIO JACKSON SQUARE.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
>> VICE CHAIRPERSON YSIANO: YES.
ARE YOU LOOKING TO TAKE OVER THAT WHOLE FACILITY, THAT WHOLE BUILDING OF THE FORMER VILLAGE MARKET OR JUST CERTAIN SUITES? HOW BIG DO YOU ANTICIPATE THIS BEING?
THERE'S SEVERAL SUITES AVAILABLE, AND I'M LOOKING FOR THE ONE IN THE CORNER.
IT USED TO BE A RESTAURANT, I BELIEVE, BECAUSE THE ONE ON THE SIDE, NOW IT'S A FURNITURE PLACE, SO THERE'S ONE NEXT TO IT.
IT'S THE ONLY SPACE AVAILABLE ON THAT CORNER.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, VICE CHAIR?
>> VICE CHAIRPERSON YSIANO: YES, I WAS TRYING TO UNMUTE.
DOES STAFF KNOW OR CAN THEY TELL US WE HAVE TO APPROVE A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A FURNITURE STORE THAT'S ON-SITE NOW?
>> LEILA NAMVAR: COMMISSIONER YSIANO, NO, THE FURNITURE STORE SELLS NEW SO IT'S A RETAIL STORE SO THEY DID NOT REQUIRE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
A PROVE ARRIVAL, I BELIEVE AS I REMEMBER A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO NEXT TO EL SUPER WHICH THEY MOVED TO THE SITE TO THE NORTH, AND THERE ARE THREE OTHER THRIFT STORES WITHIN THE CITY OF INDIO, ALL LOCATED WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, BUT THIS REQUIRES THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AS WE MENTIONED BEFORE.
>> VICE CHAIRPERSON YSIANO: THANK YOU, LEILA.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ CEJA?
RODRIGUEZ CEJA: NOTHING FOR ME, BUT I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER FRANZ WAS UNMUTED.
>> COMMISSIONER FRANZ: YEAH, I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, MADAME CHAIR.
FOR THE APPLICANT, A LOT OF THE RESELL STORES IN THE CITY AND ALSO IN THE VALLEY ARE AFFILIATED WITH SOME TYPE OF A NON-PROFIT, WHETHER IT'S MARTHA'S KITCHEN, KITCHEN, COACHELLA VALLEY RESCUE MISSION.
IT DOESN'T SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE GOING TO BE AFFILIATED WITH MI ENTITY.
THIS IS A FOR-PROFIT STORE WHERE YOU WILL RUN AND IT TRY TO GET GENTLY USED ITEMS AND THEN RESELL THEM AT A PRICE THAT THE MARKET WILL BEAR.
HAVE YOU EVER RUN A STORE, A RETAIL STORE, WHETHER RESELL OR NEW?
I'M BARELY STARTING AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO OPENING A BUSINESS, SO I'M LOOKING INTO THIS POSSIBILITY.
SO YOU SAID YOU'VE BEEN DOING IT NOW BUT YOU'VE BEEN KIND OF DOING IT LIKE YOU FINE AN ITEM AND THEN YOU JUST KIND OF MAYBE IT.
SOCIAL MEDIA OR SOMETHING AND SOMEBODY BUYS IT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND YOU'VE BEEN DOING THAT FOR IT SOUNDS LIKE ABOUT A YEAR NOW.
>> YES, MORE OR LESS, BUT OTHER THINGS I DONATE TO PEOPLE BECAUSE YOU COME
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ACROSS IN MY LINE OF WORK A LOT OF PEOPLE IN NEED OF A LOT OF ITEMS, HOUSEHOLD ITEMS, SO ESPECIALLY TO THOSE RURAL AREAS, ALL THAT AREA, SINCE I GET TO KNOW A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THERE BECAUSE I'M -- OUT THERE.I TRY TO FIND WAY TO DONATE A LOT OF THE ITEMS AS WELL.
BUT LIKE I SAID, NOW I'M TRYING TO SEE IF I CAN OPEN A STORE.
AND YOU ARE AWARE THAT WE HAVE FOUR OTHER -- I THINK IT WAS FOUR, LEILA CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG -- RESELL STORES NOT VERY FAR FROM THERE THE IN DOWNTOWN AREA.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: COMMISSIONER VALDEZ, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY.
DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENT FROM THE PUBLIC OR ANY OTHER COMMENTS?
>> EVELYN BELTRAN: NO PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR THIS ITEM.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: I GUESS I'M TRYING TO PUT MY HEAD AROUND BECAUSE I AM VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE VILLAGE MARKET, AND I DRIVE THROUGH THERE QUITE A LOT, AND I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW THIS WOULD BE -- DO WE KNOW WHAT'S CURRENTLY -- THAT'S THERE CURRENTLY IN THE SPACE, LIKE HOW MANY SPACES ARE AVAILABLE?
>> LEILA NAMVAR: I'VE SEEN THE FLOOR PLAN BEFORE.
IT LOOKS LIKE THERE ARE SEVERAL STORES OUTSIDE, AND THERE ARE SEVERAL THAT ARE INSIDE, AND IN THE MIDDLE THERE'S AN OPEN AREA, A GATHERING AREA, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY SUITES THERE ARE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE CONTACT WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER.
WE HAD ON CONTACT WITH THE APPLICANT.
SO THERE ARE PROBABLY AROUND TEN OR 20 UNITS AVAILABLE THAT THEY CAN RENT AT ANY GIVEN TIME.
THEY ALSO PREVIOUSLY THEY HAVE ALSO SPLIT THE EXISTING UNITS INTO TWO UNITS OR THEY MERGED SOME OF THEM, SO I NEED TO BASICALLY GO BACK AND SEE VISUALLY INSPECT THE SITE TO SEE HOW MANY THERE ARE, BUT CURRENTLY THERE'S A FURNITURE STORE AND I THINK THERE'S A RESTAURANT IN THE BACK WHICH THEY HAVE AN OUTDOOR SEATING.
THERE'S THAT ICE MACHINE OUTDOOR AND THERE'S A RECYCLING FACILITY ALSO OUTDOORS THERE.
BUT BESIDES THAT I DON'T KNOW ANY OF THE INTERIOR.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: SO AGAIN MY QUESTION IS, I'M GOING ASK THE APPLICANT, THE ITEMS THAT YOU'RE SELLING, WOULD NIECE BE ITEMS THAT YOU WOULD GET LIKE AT THE SWAP MEET OR WOULD THESE BE ITEMS YOU WOULD GET LIKE AT A YARD SALE OR -- I'M TRYING TO GET MY HEAD AROUND WHAT TYPE OF LIKE ITEMS THAT YOU WOULD BE SELLING, SO IT'S ALL RESELL? I'VE BEEN TO THE RAMADA, THE SWAP ME THE.
I LIVE RIGHT DOWN THE STREET FROM THERE.
HOW IS THAT DIFFERENT FROM WHAT YOU'RE DOING INSIDE THERE IS ON WHAT'S AT THE
SWAP ME THE VERSUS OR LIKE AT A -- IS IT KIND OF YARD SALE ITEMS OR -- >> THE ITEMS THAT I COME ACROSS IS BECAUSE I WORK WITH A PERSON THAT DOES ESTATE SALES FOR COUNTRY CLUBS, SO NOSE OF THE ITEMS IN ARE EXCELLENT CONDITION, SO THAT IS WHAT I
WAS TRYING TO SEE IF I COULD -- >> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: SO THIS IS CONSIDERED LIKE ESTATE ITEMS PRETTY MUCH.
HOW MUCH -- LIKE THE PERCENTAGE, HOW MUCH IS LIKE CONSIDERED ESTATE VERSUS LIKE STUFF THAT YOU WOULD GET LIKE AT A SWAP MEET OR LIKE AT A YARD SALE?
>> I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING THE QUESTION.
>> THE QUALITY OF ITEMS. WHAT'S THE PERCENTAGE OF THE ITEMS. HOW MUCH DO YOU GET THAT WOULD BE LIKE CONSIGNMENT.
IS IT CONSIGNMENT OR USED ITEMS THAT PEOPLE THAT DON'T NEED STUFF ANYMORE?
BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS THE PEOPLE, THEY HIRE SOMEONE BECAUSE THEY'RE MOVING OUT OF TOWN OR SOMEBODY PASSED AWAY, AND THOSE ITEMS IN THE HOUSE ARE IN IMMACULATE CONDITION.
THEY EITHER SELL THEM AT WHATEVER THEY DON'T SELL AT THE ESTATE SALES.
THEY SELL THEM FOR CHEAPER PRICES.
SO ALL THE ITEMS ARE IN EXCELLENT CONDITION OR WAY ABOVE WHAT YOU FINE IN THE SWAP MEET.
>> LEILA NAMVAR: SO THIS IS THE STREET VIEW.
AS YOU SEE, THEY HAVE SEVERAL SHOPS RIGHT AROUND THE EDGE AND ALSO THERE ARE
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SOME INTERIOR WITHIN THE OTHER SCREEN.AND I BELIEVE MR. HUMBERTO SAID THAT HE'S GOING TO ESTATE SALES, SO I'M AN ESTATE SALE JUNKY SO I CAN EXPLAIN EVERYTHING TO YOU.
WHEN YOU GO TO AN ESTATE SALE 1 IT'S PEOPLE WHO PASSED AWAY AND THEY ARE ACQUIRING A COMPANY TO SELL THEIR ITEMS FOR THE FAMILY MEMBERS RATHER THAN JUST GIVE IT AWAY.
SO MOST OF THE ESTATE SALES ITEMS ARE GENTLY USED OR SOMETHING THAT COULD BE REUSED WITHIN ANY HOUSEHOLD, BUT THERE COULD BE SOME ITEMS THAT DOESN'T WORK TO BRING IT TO THE STORE, SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHEN YOU GO TO A REGULAR THRIFT STORE, WHEN YOU GO TO AN ESTATE SALE.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: OTHERS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS I RECEIVED ON MY WAY OVER FROM SOME CONSTITUENTS THAT LIVE IN THE AREA.
IS IT SOMETHING YOU WOULD GET AT THE SWAP MEET? IS IT SOMETHING YOU WOULD GET IT'S YARD SALE? I'VE SEEN PEOPLE DO RESELL THROUGH AMENDS.
BUT THIS IS ALL PRETTY MUCH -- AMAZON.
BUT IT'S PRETTY MUCH CONSIGNMENT? IS IT MOSTLY ALL CONSIGNMENT?
>> I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH CONSIGNMENT.
WHAT EXACTLY -- >> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW WITH THE FOLKS THAT HAVE PASSED OR WANT TO GET RID OF HERR HIGH END FURNITURE, THAT'S LIKE CONSIGNMENT IN A WAY?
>> LEILA NAMVAR: SO CONSIGNMENT, MADAME CHAIR, IS USUALLY WHEN YOU TAKE YOUR ITEM THERE AND YOU ASK THEM TO SELL IT FOR YOU FOR A HIRE PRICE.
I DON'T THINK MR. HUMBERTO WILL DO THAT.
MR. HUMBERTO WILL BRING THE ITEMS AND PUT A PRICE AND RESELL IT.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: GOT YOU.
>> I THINK WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ASK IS THE QUALITY OF THE ITEMS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE RESELLING IN THE STORE ARE THEY GOING TO BE CONSIGNMENT QUALITY OR QUALITY AS SMUG WOULD FINE AT THE SWAP MEET OR A GARAGE SALE.
>> NO CONSIGNMENT QUALITY, YES.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: NO, NO, NO, I'M TRYING TO GET THE WORDS OUT RIGHT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WAS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT SOME OF THE CONSTITUENTS THAT WATCH THIS AND THEY ARE REAL EXCITED BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE RARELY GET TO SEE IN FRONT OF US, ESPECIALLY AT THE OLD INDIO VILLAGE MARKET IS WHAT I REMEMBER IT GROWING UP BY, AND SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE CONCERNS AND QUESTIONS YOU SEE, LIKE WHAT -- BASE KNOW THERE ARE SOME FOLKS THAT WANT TO BE ABLE TO SHOP AND SEE WHAT OTHER LIKE OPTIONS THEY HAVE BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES YOU HAVE TO GO ACROSS THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FREEWAY TO GET THINGS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO GET ACROSS THE STREET.
SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I RECEIVED AND WANTED TO CLARIFY WITH YOU.
AM I MISSING ANYTHING BEFORE ANY HAVEN'T DONE A PROJECT CONSULTATION IN A WHILE.
>> KEVIN SNYDER: YOUR DOING GOOD.
IT'S AN INFOAMAL CONVERSATION BETWEEN AND YOU THE APPLICANT AND STAFF.
IT'S UP TO THE COMMISSION IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS P CAN YOU.
OR IF THE APPLICANT HAS ANY QUESTIONS OF THE COMMISSION OR STAFF, HE CAN ASK THEM.
>> COMMISSIONER FRANZ: MADAME CHAIR, I HAVE A COUPLE.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: GO AHEAD.
>> COMMISSIONER FRANZ: SO I REALLY LIKE THE FACT THAT YOU BROUGHT UP THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE QUALITY OF THE ITEMS, WHETHER IT WAS CONSIGNMENT QUALITY OR GARAGE SALE AND RAMATE ITEMS. SO MY QUESTION IS FOR THIS GENTLEMAN TO COME IN AND GET A CUP AND IT'S EXPENSIVE.
IT'S A LOT OF MONEY FOR HIM TO PUT UP FRONT TO GET THIS -- TO EVEN START THIS PROCESS.
SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE AS A COMMISSION, IF WE HAVE ANY SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT THIS, THAT WE EXPRESS IT NOW AND WE TALK ABOUT WHAT IT IS OUR CONCERNS ARE.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, MY ONE CONCERN WOULD BE I THINK THE IDEA OF HIGHER-END CONSIGNMENT ITEMS IS GREAT.
I THINK THAT AREA PROBABLY DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
BUT THE QUESTION IS ONCE THE CUP IS ISSUED, AND THIS MIGHT BE A QUESTION TO STAFF, IS HOW DO WE ENSURE THAT THAT IS THE BUSINESS THAT EVOLVES IN THERE.
I DON'T -- YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO SAY, YES, WE'LL APPROVE THIS AND THEN HE GOES TO PROCESS AND THEN IT COMMENTS BACK AND IT TURNS OUT IT'S A NOT EXACTLY WHAT WE ALL THINK AND HE JUST SPENT A LOT OF MONEY AND TIME GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE MY CONCERNS ARE GOING, SO I'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS WHAT YOU GUYS ARE THINKING BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO -- THIS IS AN EXPENSIVE PROCESS, SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE IF IT'S GOING TO GO THROUGH IT, THAT HE CLEARLY UNDERSTANDS WHERE WE STAND.
>> LEILA NAMVAR: SO IF I MAY, I CAN EXPLAIN WHAT WE CAN DO.
SO WHEN WE COMES BACK WITH A CUP, THE DESIGN OF A BUILDING, EXTERIOR AND
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INTERIOR WILL SHOW HOW IT COULD BE OPERATED AND WHAT KIND OF ITEMS COULD BE THERE, SO IF, FOR EXAMPLE,, ONE COMES BACK WITH JUST A SHELL AND NOTHING GOING ON INSIDE OR OUTSIDE SO THAT ANYTHING CAN GO THERE, BUT IF HE HAS CLEAR AREAS OF FURNITURE, THESE ARE THE SHELVES FOR SMALLER ITEMS, THESE ARE THE SHELVES FOR LARGER ITEMS, AND THIS IS, FOR EXAMPLE, THE SILVER PLATED AREA, THIS IS THE AREA FOR THE PAINTINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THEN WE CAN KNOW.AND ALSO, AS I SAID, THE EXTERIOR, THE SIGNAGE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THERE'S NOTHING THAT COULD BE DONE TODAY IN ENTIRE BUILDINGS BUT THAT TYPE OF DESIGN OF THE INSIDE COULD BE ASSIGNED, BUT WHEN A CUP GETS APPROVED, I DON'T THINK WE CAN GO BACK AND FIND OUT WHETHER IT'S CONSIGNMENT QUALITY OR NOT BECAUSE IT'S VERY SUBJECTIVE.
>> KEVIN SNYDER: I JUST WANTED TO ADD TO WHAT LEILA JUST SAID.
WITHIN THE CODIFIED AUTHORITY OF THE ADOPTED CODES, THE CODE SPECIFIES RESELL RAILROAD RESALES, EXCUSE ME BE RIGHT BACK DOESN'T SPECIFY THE SIPE OF RESELL SO I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT AND I THINK THERE WOULD BE SOME LEGAL QUESTION AS THE TO COMMISSION BEING ABLE TO SPECIFY THE QUALITY OF THE GOODS BEING SOLD.
YOU CAN CERTAINLY ENCOURAGE THE APPLICANT, AND I THINK THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED THAT HE DESIRES TO DO THAT.
BUT I THINK THAT WITHIN THE CURRENT CODIFIED AUTHORITY AVAILABILITY TO PLANNING COMMISSION IN YOUR DECISION-MAKING CAPACITY, YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO SPECIFIED BY THE QUALITY OF GOODS BEING SOLD.
THERE ARE CERTAIN LIMITATIONS IN YOUR CONSIDERATIONS.
>> COMMISSIONER FRANZ: SO, KEVIN, ON THAT NOTE -- SORRY, MADAME CHAIR.
SO FOLLOWING THAT ALSO, THE CUP GOES WITH THE PROPERTY, CORRECT?
>> KEVIN SNYDER: IT GOES WITH THE LAND, CORRECT.
>> COMMISSIONER FRANZ: CORRECT.
SO IF WE APPROVE A RESELL ESTABLISHMENT IN THIS UNIT, AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT HAS EVERY INTENT TO SELL CONSIGNMENT HIGH-QUALITY ITEMS, BUT IF IT DOESN'T WORK OUT OR THE JOB AT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS BETTER OR SOMETHING GOES WRONG, THE NEXT PERSON THAT COMES IN COULD PUT ANY TYPE OF RESELL ESTABLISHMENT IN THAT SPACE.
>> KEVIN SNYDER: SO THE CUP RUNS WITH THE PLANNED, HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT WOULD HAVE TO WORK WITH THE CITY IF HE CHOSE TO TRANSFER THE BUSINESS OPERATION, SO WE WOULD NEED TO BE AWARE OF WHAT TYPE OF LAND USE WAS BEING PROPOSED.
IF IT WAS A SIMILAR LAND USE SUCH AS ANOTHER RESELL OR ANOTHER BUSINESS, THEN YOU ARE CORRECT, COMMISSIONER.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: I HAVE A COMMENT FOR ZACH.
WE TALKED ABOUT CODIFYING THE LANGUAGE ON THE CUP.
IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN DO AS A LEGISLATIVE BODY TO AMEND THAT OR -- OR ANY PORTION OF IT ON THE CUP?
>> ZACH HEINSELMAN: I BELIEVE, IF I CAN FOLLOW THE THREAD HERE, AND IF I'M OFF-COURSE FROM WHERE YOUR QUESTION IS GOING, LET ME KNOW, BUT I BELIEVE WHAT DIRECTOR SNYDER WAS REFERENCING IT'S IN THE CODE IN 159-222.
THE CONDITIONAL USE IS LISTED AS THRIFT SHOPS OR SECOND -- THE CITY CAN AMEND IS ZONING CODE WHICH YOU WILL BE PRESENTED WITH AN AMENDED DEVELOPMENT CODE FOR THAT KIND OF EVENTS WE DISCUSSED LATER THIS SUMMER.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION DOES PROVIDE FEED-BACK ON THAT.
ULTIMATELY IT'S THE CITY COUNCIL THAT APPROVES CHANGES TO THE DEVELOPMENT CODE.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: BASICALLY WE CAN RECOMMEND BUT THAT WON'T BE CHANGED UNTIL WE GO THROUGH OUR ZONING CORD ORDNANCE?
>> KEVIN SNYDER: LET ME ENHANCE ON WHAT THE ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY SAID AS PART OF YOUR CONVERSATION TO CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT IF HE DOES SUBMIT HIS APPLICATION, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO CHANGE THE CODE AS PART OF THAT, THE CODE THAT GOVERNS THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
AS THE ASSISTANT ATTORNEY JUST SAID, THAT PACKAGE OF CODE AMENDMENTS, WHAT WE CALL THE ZONING CODE UPDATE WILL BE COMING IN FRONT OF PLANNING COMMISSION ULTIMATELY FOR YOUR REVIEW AND APPROVAL.
AT THAT TIME YOU COULD MAKE A REPUBLICS TO THE COUNCIL AROUND CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS IN TERMS OF HOW THEIR PROCESSED, HOW THEY'RE LOOKED AT.
IN FACT, AS STAFF WE HAVE SEVERAL THINGS WE WANT TO BRING TO YOU TO ENHANCE THAT PROCESS.
THE CURRENT CODE WE FEEL IS A LITTLE BIT LIGHT.
BUT FOR THE APPLICATION, IF THE APPLICANT DOES SUBMIT IT, IT IS UNDER THE CURRENT
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CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REGULATION, SO NO MODIFICATION OF ZONING CODE ASSOCIATED WITH THE PARTICULAR APPLICATION.>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: UNTIL WE AS A GOVERNING BODY WORK ON THAT, AND THAT WOULD BE THIS SUMMER?
>> KEVIN SNYDER: LEILA AND I, WORKING FRANTICALLY WITH THE ZONING CODE CONSULTANTS.
I WOULD SAY PROBABLY RIGHT NOW WE'RE STARTING END OF SEPTEMBER, EARLY OCTOBER TO SIT DOWN WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND GOING THROUGH THAT.
SO IT'S TAKING JUST A LITTLE BIT LONGER BECAUSE AS YOU MAY KNOW WE'RE DOWN A FEW PEOPLE.
SO WE ARE -- BUT WE ARE WORKING TO GET THAT REVIEWED, SO THAT WILL BE COMING IN FRONT OF YOU IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE.
IF THE APPLICANT MAKES HIS APPLICATION, WE WILL HE WILL BE CONSIDERED UNDER THE RULES IN EFFECT AT THE TIME ONCE HIS APPLICATION IS COMPLETE.
SO EVEN IF THE CODE GOT CHANGED, HE WOULD HAVE WHAT'S CALLED VESTED RIGHTS TO BE CONSIDERED UNDER THE RULES THAT WERE IN EFFECT AT THE TIME HIS APPLICATION WAS COMPLETE.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: GOT YOU.
SO I APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER FRANZ PUT IT ON THE TABLE AND SAYING LET'S BE UP FRONT AND TRANSPARENT.
WHERE THIS WAS A PROJECT THAT WOULD COME TO US AS A ITEM THAT WOULD BE -- WE WOULD BE MAKING A DECISION BEFORE, THE APPLICANT GOES ON THIS JOURNEY, WHAT IS THE SENSE.
SO MY QUESTION, ZACH, IS CAN WE IN THIS INFORMAL CONVERSATION SAY, YOU KNOW, IF THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD BE MAKING A DECISION ON TODAY, THIS IS WHETHER I
WOULD SAY YES OR NO OR IS THAT -- >> ZACH HEINSELMAN: IT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION.
AGAIN, WE ARE IN THE CONTEXT OF A PROJECT CONSULTATION, SO THE POTENTIAL APPLICANT CAN PRESENT THE PROPOSED PROJECT, SOLICIT FEEDBACK, BUT THE COMMISSION WOULD BE RESTRICTED AND COULD NOT MAKE ANY ACTION TODAY OR COMMIT TO EITHER ACTING IN A POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE LIGHT IF AN APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED, AND IF THE APPLICATION WOULD COME BACK FOR KIND OF A FORMAL HEARING AT SOME LATER DATE.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ CEJA.
RODRIGUEZ CEJA: I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE OTHER COMMENT.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING THAT WAS PROVIDING MORE HIGH END AND HIRE QUALITY THINGS IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE APPROVED, BUT I ALSO KNOW THERE IS A NEED TO ACTIVATE THAT PARTICULAR SPACE, AND SO I AM THANKFUL THAT THERE'S AN INTEREST FROM THE APPLICANT TO BRING SOMETHING NEW THAT IS NOT CURRENTLY THERE.
AND I GREW UP, WHEN I WAS GROWING UP, WE WENT TO SECONDHAND STORES ALL THE TIME BECAUSE I'M THE OLDEST OF FIVE KIDS, AND SO I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO HAVE TO LOOK FOR THINGS THAT MIGHT NOT NECESSARILY BE BRAND NEW IN ORDER TO GIVE SOME UTILITY, SO I'M NOT OPPOSED TO SECONDHAND STORES, AND COMMISSIONER FRANZ WAS SAYING NON-PROFITS USUALLY WILL HAVE THESE SECONDHAND STORES.
AND THE QUALITY OF THOSE PARTICULAR ITEMS CAN VARY BECAUSE A LOT OF THOSE THINGS ARE BEING DONATED, RIGHT? I MYSELF HAVE DONATED SEVERAL THINGS TO ANGEL VIEW, MARTHA'S VILLAGE, AND IT SEEMS LIKE THIS PARTICULAR BUSINESS MODEL IS TO PURCHASE AND THEN RESELL IN ORDER FOR YOU TO BE MAKING A PROFIT, SO I'M HOPEFUL THAT BY CONTINUING THAT PARTICULAR MODEL, SINCE IT'S NOT LIKE PEOPLE ARE JUST GOING TO BE DROPPING BY AND DONATING THINGS FOR YOU TO SELL, THAT THERE IS AN INTENT TO BE BRINGING HIGHER QUALITY THINGS TO THE RETAIL SHOP.
I'M HOPEFUL THAT IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD COME THROUGH, THAT IT WOULD MAINTAIN A LEVEL OF HIGHER QUALITY, AND I THINK THAT THE INTEREST IN THE PLACE IS GRANTED.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ CEJA.
>> VICE CHAIRPERSON YSIANO: YES.
AGREEING WITH COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ CEJA, I THINK THAT ANYTHING GOING INTO THIS PROPERTY IS GOING TO HELP END LANCE THE LOOK AND POSSIBLY -- ENHANCE AND THE LOOK AND POSSIBLY ATTRACT MORE BUSINESS TO THE OTHER SPACES THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
THIS VERY USED TO BE KIND OF THE HUB THAT COMMUNITY OF NORTH INDIO AND THE RES COMMUNITY WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE STILL TALK ABOUT DOING THEIR GROCERY STOPPING THERE.
I KNOW THAT THERE'S A FURNITURE STORE WHERE THE GROCERY STORE WAS NOW.
HOWEVER, MAYBE IT COULD ATTRACT LIFE TO THAT CENTER.
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I AM ALL FOR ANYONE DOING WHATEVER THEY CAN TO OPEN THEIR OWN BUSINESS AND SUPPORT THEMSELVES AND DO WELL.I PERSONALLY HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH BEING A SECONDHAND STORE, ESPECIALLY SINCE HIS GOAL IS TO MAYBE EVEN OFFER SOME OF THESE HIGHER END ITEMS AT LOWER PRICES THAN SOME OF THE CURRENT SECONDHAND STORES.
SEEMS I'LL CHECK OUT SECONDHAND STORES IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND SOMETIMES THE PRICES REALLY AREN'T THAT MUCH OF A DISCOUNT FOR THE QUALITY, SO IT SOUNDS LIKE HE WANTS TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S A HIGHER QUALITY THAN DONATED ITEMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND THAT'S ANOTHER POINT, IS SOME OF THOSE NOT-FOR-PROFIT SECONDHAND STORES RELY ON A LOT OF DONATIONS, AND DONATIONS TEND TOUR CLUTTER UP THE FRONT.
THERE'S A DOOR FOR DELIVERIES AND DROP-OFFS, AND YOU DROP BY AND YOU SEE A BUNCH OF TRASH BAGS OR BINS FULL OF CLOTHES.
IT LOOKS LIKE THIS IS NOT THE BUSINESS MODEL THAT HE IS GOING AFTER.
SO I'M EAGER TO SEE WHAT HE HAS IN MIND, AND THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: THANK YOU.
COMMISSIONER FRANZ, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE I MOVE ON TO COMMISSIONER VALDEZ?
I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR THE AREA.
YOU KNOW, I WISH HIM THE BEST.
I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE COMPETITION FROM THE OTHER STORES IN THE AREA FOR A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER.
AND I WORRY ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE RESELL PERMIT GOES WITH THE PROPERTY.
AND THE NEXT PERSON MAY COME IN WITH SOMETHING VERY DIFFERENT.
AND ONCE WE DO IT, WE CAN'T CHANGE IT OR RESTRICT IT.
SO THAT'S MY BIG CONCERN THERE, BUT I THINK HIS IDEA IS GREAT.
I THINK IF WHAT HE'S SHARING WITH US, IF HE CAN DO IT, I THINK IT WILL BE A GREAT ADDITION TO THE AREA, BUT MY QUESTION IS WHAT IF HE'S NOT THE ONE THAT ACTUALLY ENDS UP BEING THERE FIVE YEARS FROM NOW OR TWO YEARS FROM NOW.
IT'S HARD TO BE A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER.
SO THOSE ARE MY ONLY CONCERNS.
BUT I APPLAUD HIM FOR WANTING TO DO THIS.
I THINK IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: COMMISSIONER VALDEZ.
>> CHAIRPERSON VALDEZ: I ALSO LOVE THE IDEA OF HAVING A BUSINESS IN VILLAGE MARKET.
FOR YEARS I'VE PASSED BY THERE AND IT NEEDS A LITTLE LIFE IN THERE.
SO TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS COME IN THERE WOULD BE GREAT.
JUST NOTING THAT THE ITEMS THAT COME IN ARE GOOD -- WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GOOD QUALITY, AND THE COMMUNITY HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO TO COME AND BUY SOMETHING AT A DISCOUNTED PRICE, AND WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT LOOKS -- HOW CAN I SAY IT? -- THAT IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE SOMEONE'S WALKING INTO A GARAGE SALE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THE ITEMS YOU HAVE WOULD HAVE BEEN HIGHER QUALITY.
NOW, I DID -- I'M JUST LIKE A LITTLE CONFUSED AT THE WHOLE CUP BECAUSE HE IS NOT THE OWNER OF THE ACTUAL PROPERTY, SO EVEN IF HE'S NOT THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, THE CUP IS TIED INTO THAT SPACE EVEN IF HE WERE TO RELOCATE OR -- HOW
DOES THAT -- >> KEVIN SNYDER: IT IS A LITTLE BIT OF A UNIQUE SITUATION.
THE COMMISSION ACTUALLY EXPERIENCED THIS BEFORE WHEN REVIVALS WAS COMING IN.
THEY ARE'S TENANT IN THE SPACE SO THEY DON'T ACTUALLY OWN THE PHYSICAL SPACE.
SO THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS TO BE A WILLING PARTY TO ALLOW THE APPLICATION, NUMBER ONE, AND THEN THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS DO RUN WITH THE LAND SO IT IS ASSIGNED TO THE LAN, AND IN THIS INSTANCE WHAT WE DID IS I BELIEVE IN REVIVALS AND WHAT WE WOULD DO HERE IS IN ESSENCE ASSIGNED IT TO THAT SPACE, SO IT BECOMES A LITTLE BIT OF -- BECAUSE IN MANY INSTANCES CONDITIONAL USE PER MINISTRIES NOT ALWAYS IN TENANTS SPACES.
IN THE CURRENT INDIO COMMUNITY CODE IT HAS THIS REQUIREMENT FOR RESELL STORES AND OFTENTIMES THEY DO GO INTO LEASED SPACE.
SO IT WOULD, AGAIN, IT WOULD RUN WITH THE LAND BUT WE WOULD A SIGN IT IN ESSENCE TO THAT TENANT SPACE ONLY.
>> CHAIRPERSON VALDEZ: SO IF HE WERE TO VACATE THE SPACE AND ANOTHER I NEW PERSON IS GOING TO COME IN, THEN WE WOULD HAVE ANOTHER MEETING TO SEE WHETHER WE WOULD PERMIT THEM TO TAKE OVER THE CUP?
>> KEVIN SNYDER: NOT NECESSARILY.
IF THE APPLICANT WAS TO SELL HIS BUSINESS TO ANOTHER PARTY THAT WAS GOING TO RUN IT'S A THE SAME USE, NO.
IF HE WAS GOING TO CLOSE HIS BUSINESS AND ANOTHER BUSINESS WAS GOING TO COME INTO THAT SPACE, DEPENDING ON WHAT IT WAS, IT MAY REQUIRE ITS OWN SEPARATE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
>> ZACH HEINSELMAN: TO THE EXTENT IT'S HELPFUL, IF WE'RE IN THE SCENARIO WHERE THERE'S A SUBSEQUENT USE IF THAT SUBSEQUENT USE FIT THE DEFINITION OF THE GRANTED CONDITIONAL USE.
IF IT WAS WANTING TO SELL SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, THEN IT WOULD BE A NEW SCENARIO.
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>> KEVIN SNYDER: THAT'S A GOOD CLARIFICATION.
I WAS SPEAKING IN THE CONTEXT SAY.
LAR BUSINESS OPERATION, BUT IF IT WAS SOMETHING SELLING -- THEY WERE SELLING TIRES.
I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING ELSE AT 6:30 AT NIGHT.
>> KEVIN SNYDER: CHAIR, I SHOULD HAVE DONE THIS EARLIER, BUT IF THIS COMMENTS BACK TO THE COMMISSION -- COMES BACK TO THE COMMISSION AND YOU WILL BE PRESENTED COMPLIANCE WITH THE GENERAL PLAN AS A STAFF REVIEW, AND I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THERE ARE TWO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT POLICIES THAT I THINK DO PERTAIN, AND I JUST WANT TO LEAVE THEM IN YOUR HEADS BECAUSE THIS COMMISSION WITH THE EXCEPTION OF OUR NEW COMMISSIONER, ALL OF YOU SAT THROUGH AND RECOMMENDED TO THE COUNCIL THE ADOPTION OF OF THE GENERAL PLAN IN 2019, AND THESE ARE TWO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT POLICIES THAT I THINK ARE POLITICAL.
NEW RETAIL USES INCLUDING USES THAT WILL ATTRACT SPENDING FROM VISITORS OF COMMUNITIES IN THE AREA.
I WOULD HOPE THEY WILL ATTRACT FOLKS FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES IN THE AREA THAT WILL SOME AND BUY THIS.
LATELY SPOT RAWLT DEVELOPMENT THAT MEETS THE NEEDS OF INDIO RESIDENTS IN APPROPRIATE LOCATIONS IN ORDER TO PREVENT THE LEAKAGE OF LOCAL EXPENDITURES TO NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES.
WOULDN'T PEOPLE TO SPEND HER AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, AND THIS IS THE TYPE OF BUSINESS THAT WOULD ENCOURAGE THAT SPENDING LOCAL.
SO THESE TWO EXAMPLES OF OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT POLICIES THINK THAT I ARE POLITICAL TO YOUR CONVERSATION AND WOULD BE BACK IN FRONT OF YOU IF THE APPLICANT DOES MOVE FORWARD.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: SO I THINK YOU GOT A SENSE OF WHAT SOME OF OUR CONCERNS ARE, AND QUALITY IS THE UNDERLYING, OTHERWISE WE MIGHT BE HERE FROM IT THOSE -- ACROSS THE STREET.
AGAIN I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR INVESTING IN INDIO, AND I GUESS WE'LL SEE YOU BACK HERE SOON.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: THANK YOU.
[11. STAFF ITEMS]
>> KEVIN SNYDER: I'LL START WITH A COUPLE OF ITEMS TO REPORT ON AND THEN I WILL TURN IT ON EVER OH TO LEILA JUST A COUPLE OF UPDATES ON PREVIOUS ITEMS THAT WERE BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
THE TRIP TO THE RED DOOR SPECIFIC PLAN, THE CITY COUNCIL CONDUCTED THE SECOND READING OF THE ORDINANCE ADOPTING THE SPECIFIC LAN ON JULY 21ST.
AT THAT TIME IT WAS PULLED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND THERE WAS A DISCUSSION, A REDISCUSSION BY THE CITY COUNCIL ON THE AVENUE 49 ACCESS AND THE COUNCIL DID REAFFIRM THE PREVIOUS DECISION TO NOT ALLOW THE ACCESS ONTO AVENUE 49.
IT WAS A 3-2 VOTE SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS.
THE CONVENIENT TANA PROJECT THAT WAS BEFORE YOU -- VENTANA PROJECT, THE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT AND SPIC PLAN THE FIRST READING OF THAT WAS DONE ON JULY 21ST.
IT'S GOING BACK TO CITY COUNCIL ON AUGUST 18TH FOR ITS SECOND READING.
THE GOLDEN BOYS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT EXTENSION AND ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT THAT WAS BEFORE YOU AT YOUR LAST MEETING IS GOING TO CITY COUNCIL ON AUGUST 18TH FOR ITS FIRST RECOMMENDATION AT WHICH TIME WE'LL PRESENT THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION ON THAT AS WELL.
WE WILL BE ISSUING A PUBLIC REVIEW DRAFT OF THE DOCUMENT, THE HOUSING ELEMENT DOCUMENT NEXT WEEK, AND WE WILL NOTIFY THE COMMISSION WHEN THAT IS AVAILABLE, AS WELL AS WE WILL BE PUBLICIZING IT TO THE PUBLIC, BOTH THE STAKEHOLDERS THAT HAVE JOINED US US IN OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENTS MEETINGS AS WELL AS RELEVANT AGENCIES.
AND THAT WILL HAVE -- WE WILL HAVE A REVIEW PERIOD UNTIL ABOUT MID-OCTOBER ON THAT, SO WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT FOLKS WILL TAKE A LOOK IT AND ASK THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO ASSIST US IN GETTING THE WORD OUT WITH YOUR NETWORK TO LET KNOW, E.
FOLKS KNOW THAT IS OUT THERE AND GIVE US COMMENTS.
WE TALKED ABOUT THE ZONING CODE UPDATE PROJECT, AND AS WE SAID THAT'S MOVING ALONG.
LEILA AND I ARE GOING TO BE REVIEWING A LOT OF STUFF OVER THE NEXT WEEK, AND WE ARE -- WE'RE AIMING TO GET THAT IN FRONT OF YOU LIKE A SAID, END OF SEPTEMBER, EARLY OCTOBER, AND THEN AT THAT TIME WE'LL BE HAVING A DISCUSSION WITH YOU ABOUT WHAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT AND YOU CAN TELL US WHAT YOU THINK AND WHETHER YOU AGREE, WHETHER YOU DISAGREE, WHETHER YOU WANT CHANGES.
REMEMBER THAT YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THIS BE REFLECTIVE OF YOUR THOUGHTS AND OPINIONS.
AND THEN THE VERY LAST THING IS JUST THIS IS MORE OF AN INFORMATION ITEM BUT THOUGHT IT MIGHT OF INTEREST ON AUGUST 18TH AS WELL, WE ARE TAKING A CONTRACT TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR A FIBER MASTER PLAN FOR THE CITY.
THE THE COUNCIL APPROPRIATED MONEY IN THE NEW BUDGET FOR THE CITY TO PREPARE A FIBER MASTER PLAN.
THAT FIBER MASTER PLAN IS GOING TO BE A COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AT HOW WE ENHANCE FIBER
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IN OUR COMMUNITY TO ADDRESS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEEDS AS WELL AS SOCIAL EQUITY NEEDS TO MAKE SURE, AS I THINK WE ALL SAW THROUGH THE PANDEMIC UNFORTUNATELY IN OUR COMMUNITY AND OTHER COMMUNITIES IN THE VALLEY AS WELL AS OTHER PARTS OF THE STATE AND THE NATION, IT WAS NOT ALWAYS UNIFORM ACCESS TO FIBER BROADBAND ACCESS, AND SO THIS PLAN IS GOING TO REALLY LOOK AT HOW WE COULD IMPROVE THAT, WHAT ARE THE STRATEGIES, WHAT ARE THE IDEAS, WHAT ARE OUR GAPS IN THAT SERVICE, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO ACCOMPLISH QUICKLY BECAUSE THERE IS MONEY AVAILABLE, AS MANY OF YOU MAY HAVE HEARD.THE NEW INFRASTRUCTURE FINANCING THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS MAIN SET ASIDE FOR THAT SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.
IN ADDITION, THE CITY HAS RECEIVED AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT FUNDING AS WELL, AND IF THAT IS A, ULTIMATE AN AREA THE COUNCIL WANT TO INVEST IN, THEN WE WANT TO BE POSITIONED TO HAVE GOOD INFORMATION FOR THEIR DECISION MAKING.
IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO LEILA, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
>> COMMISSIONER LOPEZ: I'M SORRY.
>> KEVIN SNYDER: THE MALL IS MOVING FORWARD.
THERE WAS A MEETING RECENT ON THEIR BUILDING PERMITS.
I THINK I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY THEY HAVE A STRONG DESIRE TO GET UNDER CONSTRUCTION BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR AND THEY TOLD US IT WILL TAKE ABOUT A YEAR FOR THEM TO DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, WHAT YOU SAW AND SIGNED OFF ON.
SO, YEAH, IT'S GOING TO GET BUSY OUT THERE PRETTY SOON.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: DOES IT NEED TO GO BEFORE COUNCIL?
>> NO, YOU WERE THE DECIDING ENTITY.
THERE'S A SECOND PHASE WHICH INVOLVES TO THE SOUTH OF THE CURRENT MALL PROPERTY, YOU'LL BE SEEING AB PLIC AT SOME POINT FROM THE COMPANY TO PROCESS AN AMENDMENT TO THE SPECIFIC PLAN THAT GOVERNS THAT PROPERTY.
THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT THEY WOULD NEED TO DO THAT WOULD REQUIRE RINGS CHANGE IN THAT SPECIFIC PLAN THAT.
WOULD BE BEFORE YOU AT SOME POINT.
THEY'RE WONK ON IT RIGHT NOW AND THEY'VE -- I THINK THAT THEIR GOAL IS TO BE IN BY EARLY FALL.
>> LEILA NAMVAR: MADAME CHAIR, I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: COMMISSIONERS.
[12. COMMISSIONER COMMENTS]
>> COMMISSIONER FRANZ: I HAVE ONE.
CAN YOU GUYS PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER DAY THEY KNOCK DOWN THE FIRST WALL IN THE MALL, WE GET INVITED?
>> COMMISSIONER FRANZ: I REALLY WANT TO CELEBRATE THAT MOMENT, OKAY? PUTTING MY REQUEST OUT THERE NOW.
>> KEVIN SNYDER: I WILL FIND OUT IF WE'RE HAVING A KNOCKING DOWN THE WALL CEREMONY.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: I'VE BEEN WAITING SINCE SEVENTH GRADE.
>> CHAIRPERSON VALDEZ: I'M NOT SURE THIS IS ONE I CAN ASK THIS OR NOT BUT I HAVE A QUESTION IN REGARDS TO ONE OF ROADS IN NORTH INDIO THAT'S RIGHT ON THE CORNER OF AVENUE 38 AND JEFFERSON OR IS IT 39 AND JEFFERSON WHICH IS RIGHT ON CORNER OF THE HIGH SCHOOL, AND RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THE NEW CHURCH THAT'S BEING BUILT, SCHOOL'S GOING TO START SOON AND THERE IS A GATE THAT CUTS OFF THE WALKING AREA FOR THE KIDS, AND I WAS JUST CURIOUS AS TO WHY THAT GATE IS THERE OR THE FENCE IS THERE OR IF THAT FENCE IS GOING TO GET PUSHED IN A LITTLE BIT.
THERE'S KIDS THAT RUN THROUGH THERE FOR PRACTICE FOR SOCCER OR FOR TRACK, AND THEY'RE KIND OF INTO THE ROAD.
IT'S A LITTLE DANGEROUS FOR THEM TO BE RUNNING OR WALKING THROUGH THERE ON THEIR WAY TO SCHOOL.
>> KEVIN SNYDER: I HAVE LIMITED FAMILIARITY.
I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
I WILL FOLLOW UP WITH OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR AND GET MORE DETAILED INFORMATION.
I DO BELIEVE THE CITY HAS A FUTURE CAPITAL WORKS PROJECT IN PLACE TO DO SOME ROAD WORK IN THAT AREA THAT WOULD IMPROVE THAT SECTION BUT I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE GATE, SO I'LL BE HAPPY TO FIND THAT OUT AND SHARE THAT WITH YOURSELF AND THE REST OF THE COMMISSION BASED THE ON A PUT FROM THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.
>> CHAIRPERSON VALDEZ: BECAUSE SCHOOL STARTS NEXT WEEK SO THERE'S A LOT OF STUDENTS THAT WALK THAT WAY TO GO TO SCHOOL AND IT'S A LITTLE DANGEROUS.
THAT AREA IS DANGEROUS AS IT IS WITHOUT.
FENCING UP, BUT I'M JUST YOURS AS TO WHY IT'S BLOCKING THE PATHWAY FOR THE KIDS.
>> KEVIN SNYDER: COMMISSIONER, CAN YOU REMIND ME THE LOCATION.
>> CHAIRPERSON VALDEZ: IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO SHADOW HILLS HIGH SCHOOL.
IT'S ON THE CORNER OF JEFFERSON AND AVENUE 39, AND IT'S A PROPERTY RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO WHERE THE CHURCH IS BEING BUILT.
SO I BELIEVE THE CHURCH, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY HAVE BUILT A SIDEWALK BUT IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S EXTENDING TO THAT PROPERTY THAT WOULD TAKE IT ALL THE WAY TO THE STOPLIGHT THAT THE KIDS WOULD USE TO CROSS TO GET TO THE SCHOOL.
>> KEVIN SNYDER: I WILL DO SOME RESEARCH AND GET BACK.
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>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? QUESTIONS? ANYTHING ELSE? SO I GUESS WE'LL GO AHEAD AND ADJOURN.
IF I CAN GET A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.
>> VICE CHAIRPERSON YSIANO: I'LL MAKE A MOTION THE ADJOURN TODAY'S MEETING.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: VICE CHAIR.
>> ZACH HEINSELMAN: JUST TO CLARIFY, THAT WOULD BE MOTION TO ADJOURN TO NEXT REGULATE MEETING AUGUST 25TH AT CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS AND VIRTUALLY AS WELL.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: I ALWAYS FORGET THIS LAST PART.
NEXT COMMISSION MEETING WILL BE HELD ON AUGUST 25TH AT 6:00 P.M.
HERE AND/OR A HOME, CORRECT? VIRTUAL.
AND SO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM VICE CHAIR.
>> CHAIRPERSON FRANZ: I'LL SECOND.
>> CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ: COMMISSIONER FRANZ.
CAN YOU PLEASE GET A ROLL CALL.
>> EVELYN BELTRAN: CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ.
>> COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ CEJA.
THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.