[4a. A City Council Study Session for Discussion and Possible Direction on the following: Short-Term Rental Ordinance (Roxanne Diaz, City Attorney & Jason Anderson, Code Enforcement Manager)]

MONTHS AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME TODAY AND THOUGHTFUL CONSIDERATION OF YOUR ORDINANCE.

>>ELAINE HOLMES : THANK YOU.

>> THAT IS IT FOR COMMENTS.

>>ELAINE HOLMES : OKAY PROGRAM.

>> ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

THIS IS GOING TO BE A CONTINUATION OF OUR DISCUSSION LAST OCTOBER AND YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A LOT OF THE SAME TRENDS IN THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE.

LET'S GET THIS KICKED OFF.

AND JUST A QUICK AGENDA.

WE WILL TALK ABOUT SOME OF OUR CURRENT CHALLENGES.

WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT FEATURES OF THE UPDATED ORDINANCE AND THERE ARE SOME POLICY Â" I CAN'T SEE THE SCREEN.

POLICY TOPICS YOU WANT TO COVER AND GET FEEDBACK FROM THE CITY COUNCIL.

OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE DOESN'T ADEQUATELY ADDRESS NEIGHBORHOOD IMPACTS AND I'M SURE YOU HAVE RECEIVED COMMUNITY FEEDBACK.

JUST GENERAL DISORDER FROM SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

SOME OF OUR OTHER CHALLENGES ARE WE ARE NOT ABLE TO IDENTIFY TRUE OPERATORS OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

WE DON'T KNOW WHO THE GUESTS ARE, WE DON'T KNOW WHO THE RENTERS ARE SO THERE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING INTO THE COMMUNITY OPERATING THESE SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND WE REALLY DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE.

NEW CHALLENGES COLLECTING TOT OUTSIDE THE AIR B&B PLATFORM.

AS YOU KNOW, THE OF THE AGREEMENT WITH THE AIR B&B TO COLLECT DOT ON THEIR TRANSACTIONS, BUT THEY ARE ONLY A PERCENTAGE OF THE TOTAL OF TRANSACTIONS THAT TAKE PLACE.

THERE ARE A LOT OF TRANSACTIONS THAT TAKE PLACE, I THINK THERE ARE 36 OTHER PLATFORMS THAT OFFER RENTALS ONLINE.

WE ARE STARTING TO SEE A TREND OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS ON THE SAME PROPERTY.

I KNOW ONE EXAMPLE WHERE THERE IS A JUNIOR ADU ON THE PROPERTY THE HOUSE ITSELF IS A SHORT-TERM RENTAL.

SO ON A WEEKEND YOU COULD HAVE TWO FAMILIES 16 OR 17 PEOPLE ALL PERFECTLY LEGAL UNDER THE COURT AND ORDINANCE.

WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT AS WELL TO READ EXCUSE ME, I'M GOING TO TAKE MY MASK OFF.

SO THE GOALS ARE PROPOSED ORDINANCE.

NUMBER ONE TO REDUCE THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND FAX READ WE WANT TO PROTECT THE CONSUMERS REALLY WANT TO PROVIDE AND ENSURE THE OPERATOR TO PROVIDE A SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR PEOPLE TO COME AND ENJOY OUR CITY AND INCREASE ACCOUNTABILITY OF THE OPERATORS.

THEY PAY THEIR TOT TAXES, THEY ARE GOING TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS.

ALL IN THE EFFORT TO REGULATE THE INDUSTRY.

WE ALSO WANT TO LOOK AT WAYS TO MODERNIZE PERMIT PROCESS.

RIGHT NOW THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT BARRIER FOR COMPLIANCE.

IT IS ALL PAPER-BASED.

AND SO IF YOU, GET A PERMIT, THE PERMIT IS DONE ON A PIECE OF PAPER AND YOU TURN IT IN.

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YOU PAY VIA CHECK.

BUT WE WANT TO MODERNIZE THE ENTIRE PROCESS.

IN PRODUCT, THE OPERATOR, EASY TO COMPLY, EASY TO OBTAIN THE PERMIT, MODERN PLATFORM INTUIT ONLINE AND PAY YOUR TAXES ONLINE ALL TO MAKE IT MORE SEAMLESS FOR THE CITY AND OPERATORS.

AND I THINK WE ARE GOING TO JUMP INTO THE APPLICATION PROCESS.

YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS? THIS IS OUR IDEAL OF APPLICATION OF A SHORT-TERM RENTAL COULD BE VERY IT IS NOT WHAT IT IS, IT'S WHAT IT COULD BE.

IN OUR INTENT IS TO HAVE THIS AUTOMATED SO IT IS EASY.

EASY ANALOGY YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO ALL YOUR TRANSACTIONS ON YOUR PHONE BARGAIN.

>> JUST LIKE THE LAST TIME WE ARE GOING TO TAGTEAM SO HE'S GOING TO JUMP IN IF I HAVE MISSED SOMETHING AND WANTS TO ADD ANYTHING.

WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS A FLOWCHART WE PUT TOGETHER IN TERMS OF SUBMITTING THE APPLICATION, INSPECTION, STAFF REVIEW AND APPROVAL OR DENIAL.

WE ARE GOING TO KIND OF HIT THE HIGH POINTS WITH RESPECT TO EACH ONE.

APPARENTLY I AM MOUSE CHALLENGED.

SO THE APPLICATION PROCESS.

ONE CHANGE WE MADE HERE IS IT IS A PROPERTY OWNER AND AUTHOR AGENT MUST SUBMIT THE APPLICATION.

THAT REALLY IS WE DO HAVE CORPORATE OWNERSHIPS.

AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE KNOW WHO THE PROPERTY OWNER IS AND THEREFORE REQUIRING THEM TO SUBMIT THE APPLICATION.

ALONG WITH THAT THERE WILL BE A LETTER THAT IS REQUIRED IF THEY ARE IN AN AREA THAT IS IN AN HOA THAT THE SDR ARE NOT PROHIBITED.

IF THEY ARE IN AN AREA, A COPY OF THE CCN ARE AS WELL TO VERIFY THAT ISSUE.

INQUIRY IN A PARKING PLAN FOR VEHICLES OF THE RENTERS.

A LITTLE BIT LATER ON I WILL EXPLAIN HOW THE PARKING PLAN WORKS.

AND LAST, EVEN THOUGH HISTORICALLY AND WE HAVE BEEN DOING IS INSPECTING THE PROPERTIES ONCE WE GET AN APPLICATION FOR A NEW PERMIT THAT HAS BEEN DONE, BUT WE JUST WANT TO INCLUDE AS PART OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS CONSENT TO INSPECT.

INTO THE NEXT STEP IN THE PROCESS FOR GETTING A PERMIT IS THE INSPECTION ITSELF, WHICH WE HAVE CONTINUALLY DONE AND HAVE BEEN DOING FOR SOME TIME.

THIS IS A BUILDING, FIRE HEALTH AND SAFETY INSPECTION SIMILAR TO CURRENT PRACTICES.

WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO IS PUT TOGETHER INSPECTION SHEETS.

TO MAKE IT VERY EASY FOR BUILDING OFFICIALS TO GO OUT AND INSPECT.

IT MAKES IT CLEAR FOR THE RENTER IN TERMS OF WHAT GETS INSPECTED.

AND SO IN TERMS OF MAKING SURE ALL THE NECESSARY LIFE, SAFETY MATTERS ARE TAKING CARE OF LIKE YOUR FIRE ALARM, CARBON DIOXIDE AND THINGS OF THAT VERY MAKING SURE THINGS ARE WORKING IN THE PLACE IS HABITABLE AS WELL.

FOR NEW PERMITS THERE WILL BE REQUIRED IN INSPECTION BY ONE HOUR BUILDING FOLKS.

AND THEREAFTER FOR THE SAME PERMITTEE IN PERMIT, YOU CAN SELF CERTIFIED.

USING THESE FORMS SIGNED UNDER PERJURY WITH RESPECT TO THAT, THOSE INSPECTIONS.

IT MAKES IT TRANSPARENT AND CLEAR TO EVERYBODY IN TERMS OF WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT.

AND EVERY FIVE YEARS THERE WILL BE A NEW INSPECTION.

DISCUSSED AS AN EARLY GROUP IN TERMS OF TRYING TO BALANCE OUT THE COST OF THE INTRUSION AS WELL.

I KNOW A NUMBER OF CITIES IN OUR AREA THREE I KNOW PALM SPRINGS THE SELF INSPECTIONS AT SOME POINT IN TIME.

SO WE WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT AS WELL TO READ AND CERTAINLY IF THERE ARE CORRECTIONS THAT ARE REQUIRED FROM THE INSPECTION, THERE'S A TIME FROM THE ORDINANCE FOR THOSE CORRECTIONS TO BE MADE.

ACTION OCCURS FROM THE STAFF PERSPECTIVE 15 DAYS AFTER THE APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED.

AND THEN THERE IS A 30 DAY CORRECTION PERIOD.

JASON, DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING? WHICH IS TO ADD TO THAT, SELF CERTIFIED, LETTING PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THE RULES ARE OUT OF TIME, BUT WE ARE TO BE INSPECTED FOR HIS NEW.

THERE'S NO SURPRISES WHEN THE BUILDING INSPECTOR GOES OUT AND FINDS YOUR SMOKE DETECTORS WORK.

YOU WILL KNOW AHEAD OF TIME THE 56 THINGS THAT WE ARE GOING TO LOOK FOR WE ARE GOING TO GO DOWN THE LIST AND IF NOTHING STANDS OUT YOU CAN GET YOUR PERMIT RIGHT AWAY.

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SOMETHING NEW.

WE THINK IT IS VERY IMPORTANT.

WHAT WE SEE IS AFTER YOU GET THAT PERMIT, OFTENTIMES THERE ARE MODIFICATIONS DONE THAT WE DON'T CORRECT OR KNOW ABOUT.

THIS IS JUST AN INTENT TO INJURE POVERTY IS CONTINUING TO BE SAVED AFTER THAT INITIAL BUILDING INSPECTION.

YES?

>> FOR THE INSPECTION EVERY FIVE YEARS, IS A BY THE CITY OR SELF INSPECTION?

>> THE CITY.

>> IT WILL BE SELF CERTIFIED YOUR TWO, THREE AND FOUR AND INSPECTED BY A BUILDING INSPECTOR AND GO BACK INTO THE SELF CERTIFIED PATTERN.

>> ANYTIME THE PROPERTY CHANGES OWNERSHIP OR CHANGES OWNERSHIP IN THE NEW OWNER DESIRES TO HAVE A PERMIT FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS, THAT DOESN'T RUN WITH THE LAND.

IT RUNS PER THE PERMITTEE.

AND SOMEONE INSPECTION WOULD BE REQUIRED IF THERE IS AN OWNERSHIP CHANGE NEAR THREE FOR EXAMPLE.

>> I'M ALSO LOOKING AT THE APPLICATION.

AND THE LETTER FROM THE HOA AND SDR ARE NOT PROHIBITED.

BUT I ALSO ASKED THIS BEFORE ON BUILDING AND YOU TOLD ME IT WASN'T APPLICABLE THAT WE COULD STOP A PERMITTEE FROM COMING IN AND KILLING A BUILDING PERMIT FOR SOMETHING THAT WASN'T AUTHORIZED BY THEIR HOA BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE US THE AUTHORITY.

SO WHAT GIVES THEM THE AUTHORITY TO ASK FOR THE HOA ON THE SDR HERE WHEN WE CAN'T DO IT WHEN IT IS BUILDING?

>> AT THE END OF THE DAY WITH RESPECT TO OUR BUILDING CODES AND OUR ZONING CODES, THOSE TRUMP ANY TYPE OF CCN ARE FOR ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW WITH RESPECT TO THE HOA.

AND SO LET'S SAY THE HOA SAID EMMA THE HOA HAD AN ARCHITECTURAL ITEM THAT INDICATED THAT THEIR GARAGE CAN BE NO MORE THAN 20 FEET, HOWEVER, OUR CODE PROVIDES THAT THE GARAGE CAN BE UP TO 22 FEET, MINISTERIAL PERMIT, IT'S A BUILDING PERMIT BY LAW AND WE ARE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE IT.

EVEN THOUGH THERE IS A DISCREPANCY BETWEEN THE TWO.

AND THAT IT WOULD BE UP TO THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION BOARD TO ESSENTIALLY AFFECTIONATE THERE CCN ARE.

WITH THE TRANSITION TO SHORT-TERM RENTALS, I KNOW I HAVE TAKEN THAT POSITION BEFORE.

I THINK THAT AFTER TALKING TO STAFF AND SPEAKING TO OTHERS AND TRYING TO LOOK AT IT IN A DIFFERENT WAY IN THE SENSE THAT WE ARE DRAFTING THE RULES, IT IS NOT AS IF IT IS A BUILDING CODE TYPE ISSUE WHEREBY LOBBY ARE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE THE PERMIT FOR THIS IS REGULATORY.

AND THINK WITH ENOUGH CONVERSATION, INCLUDING YOURS AS WELL, THAT WHEN WE DID THE REWRITE THAT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE HOA ISSUE.

>> OKAY.

THANK YOU.

>> AND THEN I HAD A QUESTION WITH RESPECT TO THE PROCESS.

AFTER THE INSPECTION SOMEONE IS GOING TO MAKE MODIFICATIONS.

BUT I'M MORE CONCERNED IF THERE IS A POINT IN WHICH THERE ARE COMPLAINTS LODGED.

CLEARLY THERE ARE 17 PEOPLE IN A TWO BEDROOM HOUSE OR SOMETHING.

IS THERE ROOM IN THE PROCESS TO BE ABLE TO SAY GRANTED, IT'S EVERY FIVE YEARS UNLESS THERE ARE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS THAT LEAD US TO BELIEVE THERE HAS BEEN A MODIFICATION.

>> THERE IS.

WE LET OURSELVES THE ABILITY TO INSPECT AT ANY TIME.

AND THAT IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, JUST MOVING THROUGH A PROCESS WE WILL HAVE STAFF REVIEW AFTER THE INSPECTION OCCURS, CORRECTIONS ARE MADE AND THAT IS PRETTY STANDARD.

WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS HIS OR ANYTHING WITH A LIST OF GROUNDS FOR DENIAL THAT THE PERMIT SHOULD BE DENIED.

INTO THE PROPERTY DOESN'T MEET THE MINIMUM SAFETY STANDARDS, THERE IS DELINQUENT TOT, WE BUILT AND PERMIT SUSPENSION IF A PERMIT HAS BEEN SUSPENDED OR REVOKED WITHIN THE LAST 12 MONTHS.

AND THERE IS A WHOLE BRAND-NEW LIST IN THE ORDINANCE THAT PROVIDES A MORE DEFINITIVE LIST.

NOT THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE IT BEFORE BUT WE DID.

BUT PROVIDES A LITTLE BIT MORE ROBUST LIST WITH RESPECT TO A DENIAL PERMIT, INCLUDING FAILURE TO PAY ANY PREVIOUS LINES, DEMONSTRATING FAILING TO DEMONSTRATE THE ABILITY TO CONFORM TO THE OPERATIONAL REQUIREMENTS NOT COMPLYING WITH ALL THE CODES AND FAILURE TO PROVIDE A COMPLETE APPLICATION IF WE FIND OUT THE APPLICATION IS FALSE AND MISLEADING OR THERE IS FALSE INFORMATION

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PROVIDED.

SO WE GO THROUGH GROUNDS FOR DENIAL.

THERE ALSO WILL BE GROUNDS FOR ANY SUSPENSION IN THE FUTURE SHOULD THAT HAPPEN.

IF WE CAN'T CHECK THE BOX IN ANY OF THOSE THE PERMIT GETS ISSUED.

AS OF THE CITY, WE CAN PROPOSE ADDITIONAL IF IT IS WARRANTED FOR THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY.

SO PROVIDES US THE ABILITY TO BE FLEXIBLE.

I GUESS NOT REACTIVE BUT TO ADDRESS CERTAIN THINGS AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE.

BUT IF THERE IS A CONDITION THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDED, AND IS TO COMPORT TO WHAT THE ISSUE IS.

IT CAN'T BE ANY CONDITION.

SO WE INCLUDED THAT AS WELL.

THE NEXT IS THE PERMIT GETS ISSUED.

A PERMIT WILL BE VALID FOR 12 MONTHS WRITTEN SOMETHING NEW THAT WE BUILT IN HERE IS ONCE THE PERMIT IS ISSUED, WE PROVIDE NOTICE TO THE NEIGHBORS WITHIN 500 FEET.

SO THAT WITH THE NEIGHBORS KNOW THAT THEY HAVEN'T SDR THAT IS NEARBY.

AND IT TAKES AWAY THIS CLOUD OF UNKNOWING, UNCERTAINTY.

AND SO IT IS MADE VERY CLEAR TO THE NEIGHBORS THERE IS AN SDR.

AND SO THAT IS PART OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS.

THE PERMIT NEEDS TO BE RENEWED ANNUALLY.

IT HAS TO BE RENEWED 60 DAYS BEFORE EXPIRATION.

AND THERE IS GOING TO BE A RENEWAL PERMIT APPLICATION AS WELL.

AND WHEN WE REVIEWED THE RENEWAL APPLICATIONS, WE LOOK AT THE HISTORY.

WHETHER THEY HAVE HAD CITATIONS, WHETHER THERE ARE VIOLATIONS, COMPLAINTS BOGAN A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN COMPLAINTS.

BUT WITH REVISION VIOLATIONS AND WE WILL TALK IN TERMS ARE THREE STRIKES.

THE PROCESSING TIME GENERALLY IS 30 DAYS IF THERE ARE NO CORRECTIONS IN 60+ DAYS IF THERE ARE CORRECTIONS THAT ARE NECESSARY.

IF WE DENY A PERMIT, WE PROVIDE A WRITTEN NOTICE AND THE PERMIT DENIAL CAN BE APPEALED.

ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ADD?

>> I WANT TO ADD TO RUN THIS APPLICATION PROCESS, OPERATORS AREN'T ALLOWED TO RENT THEIR PROPERTIES.

SO WE SEE THAT NOW ARE WE FIND THE UNLICENSED OPERATORS.

TO GET CITED AND COME INTO THE PROCESS TO GET A PERMIT AND THEY CONTINUE TO OPERATE THE ENTIRE TIME.

WITH THIS NEW ORDINANCE THEY AREN'T ALLOWED TO OPERATE, THEY HAD TO GET THERE PERMIT FIRST.

WE LOOK AT THE PERMIT AND DURING THE APPLICATION PROCESS, WE CAN GO BACK IN AND CALCULATE FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS.

IF THEY OPERATED ILLEGALLY FOR A YEAR OR TWO, WE CAN GO BACK AND TRY TO DETERMINE IF THEY OWE THE CITY ANY MONEY FOR THAT TIME THEY WERE OPERATING WITHOUT A PERMIT.

>> AS I MENTIONED, THE PERMIT IS NONTRANSFERABLE AND WE INCLUDED LANGUAGE HERE THAT THE RENEWAL PERMIT DOES NOT GIVE THE OWNER VESTED PROPERTY RIGHTS.

DOESN'T RUN WITH THE LAND TO WHICH IT APPLIES.

>> CAN I ASK A QUICK QUESTION.

>> YES, SIR.

>> WHO DECIDES THE APPEAL? WHO DO THEY APPEAL TO?

>> RIGHT NOW WE HAVE AN APPEAL TO THE CITY MANAGER.

I KNOW WE HAVE HAD SOME DISCUSSION IN TERMS OF HOW FAR THAT APPEAL GOES.

OUR PERSPECTIVE IS THAT IT EITHER GOES TO THE CITY MANAGER OR ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING OFFICER THAT WE USE FOR OTHER APPEALS BUT THAT IT NOT GO TO THE COUNCIL.

IN THE FINAL REVIEW IS SOMEWHAT ABOVE OUR PAY GRADE AND THAT IS NOT US.

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>> THANK YOU.

>> NEXT WHAT WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT OR THE IMPROVED OPERATIONAL REQUIREMENTS.

AND SO WE ARE REQUIRING Â" AND WE DID THIS OVER COVID WHEN WE WERE ADOPTING OUR SPECIAL ORDERS WITH RESPECT TO RENTALS.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE STARTED THE INSTITUTE THEN WAS A REQUIREMENT THE RENTAL CONTRACTS BE SUBMITTED BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE RULES WERE WITH RESPECT TO THE STATE UNDER THE COVID EMERGENCY.

AND SO WE ARE REQUIRING THE RENTAL CONTRACTS BE SUBMITTED TO THE CITY BUT WE ARE ALSO REQUIRING THAT OCCUPANCY AND PARKING AND INFORMATION BE DISPLAYS AND ADVERTISEMENTS WHICH WE HAVE DONE BEFORE AS WELL.

WE MADE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE ROBUST.

LOCAL CONTACT PERSON WE HAVE HAD, HOWEVER, WE ARE REQUIRING THEY LIVE IN THE COACHELLA VALLEY.

WE PROVIDE A DEFINITION THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES ARE DOING AS WELL.

WILL PROVIDE THAT WE PUT TOGETHER.

WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE A LOT OF THESE THINGS AS EASY AS POSSIBLE IN TERMS OF NOTICING LABELS ETC. WE WILL PROVIDE THIS NOTICE AND THEY PUT IT IN THE FRONT OF THE WINDOW.

AND THERE ARE CITIES THAT DO REQUIRE THAT.

AND THAT WAY IT MAKES IT CLEAR THAT IS A SHORT-TERM RENTAL OR AS IT PERMIT.

AND THEN WE HAVE A CHECK IN PROCESS THAT THE OWNER OR AGENT HAS TO BE ON SITE WHERE IT CAN BE DONE BY VIDEO FOR THE ADVICE WITH A COLD RESPONSIBLE PERSON IN THE RESPONSIBLE PERSON IS DEFINED AS THE PERSON WHO ACTUALLY RENTS THE UNIT HAS TO BE 25 YEARS OR OLDER.

OF ALL THE OPERATIONAL REQUIREMENTS AND WITH THE HIGHLIGHTS, THE NOISE, THE TRASH, THE OCCUPANCY.

OF THE RESPONSIBLE PERSON IS GIVEN THE LOCAL CONTEXT INFORMATION.

THAT IS IMPORTANT THAT THEY KNOW WHO IS IT THAT THEY CAN CALL WITH RESPECT TO ANY ISSUES.

AND THEY PROVIDE US WITH WEEK-OLD INFORMATION AND ACKNOWLEDGMENT FORMS. , OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES DO THIS PARIS OF THE INFORMATIONAL FORM IS TO PROVIDE US THOSE PERSONS WHO ARE GOING TO SWEEP THERE OVERNIGHT WITH THEIR NAMES, THEY NUMBER OF CARS TO THE CONTACT INFORMATION.

AND IS SIGNED BY THE RESPONSIBLE AND TO ACKNOWLEDGE AS POSSIBLE, FOR THEMSELVES BUT OCCUPANTS AND GUESTS.

THAT INCLUDES FOLLOWING THE RULES PARKING ON TRASH AND ALL OF THOSE ITEMS THAT AFFECT NEIGHBORHOODS.

JASON?

>> WILL WE BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A PREAPPROVED CONTRACT TO RESIDENTS FOR THOSE WHO ARE IN THE INDUSTRY?

>> I WOULD BE HESITANT TO DO THAT.

ONLY BECAUSE EVERY CONTRACT IS DIFFERENT WITH RESPECT TO THE RENTALS AND WHETHER THEY DO IT BY THEMSELVES OR THROUGH AN AGENCY WITH THE RV OLD.

FOR DIFFERENT PERCENTAGES OF WHO TAKES WHAT IN TERMS OF IT.

INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS.

WHILE WE WANT TO STREAMLINE IT, THAT IS ONE AREA THAT PERHAPS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD PROVIDE.

BUT WE CAN PROVIDE AS MUCH ELSE AS POSSIBLE.

>> ONE THING FOR THE CHECK IN PROCESS.

AND THE REASON WE ARE DOING ALL THIS IS WHAT THE PEOPLE IN OUR CITY TO STAY.

WE SEE THAT TIME AND TIME AGAIN ONLY ARE OUT OF THE PROPERTY, WE ARE OUT OF THAT PARTY.

THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RULES ARE.

THEY WERE TOLD THEY COULD'VE LOUD MUSIC UNTIL MIDNIGHT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO WE WANT TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR UP FRONT THAT THESE ARE THE RULES YOU MUST ABIDE BY WHEN YOU STAY IN OUR CITY.

>> WHAT WE CALL THE IMPROVED OPERATIONAL REQUIREMENTS.

AND SO WE HAVE INCLUDED NOISE STANDARDS.

OR I SHOULD SAY NOISE PROVISIONS WILL LOOK AT IT.

BUT A LITTLE BIT MORE IN TERMS OF WHAT THE NOISE LIMITATIONS ARE PRODUCTIVE AND JUST SAYING YOU HAVE TO COMPLY WITH OUR CODE.

AND I FEEL THAT WHEN WE ARE DRAFTING THIS FROM A REGULATORY PERSPECTIVE.

EVEN THOUGH LET'S SAY THE CODE LOOKS AT NOISE FROM A REASONABLE PERSON STANDARD, THIS IS DIFFERENT.

THIS IS A BUSINESS.

GRANTED IN THE SENSE OF THROUGH YOUR HOME.

IT'S A DIFFERENT KIND OF RESIDENTIAL USE OF PROPERTY THAT ONE COMES IN TO GET A PERMIT AND THEREFORE I THINK WE ARE COMFORTABLE IN ADDING DIFFERENT RULES FOR THE USE THROUGH THE RULES ARE DIFFERENT WITH RESPECT TO SOMEBODY WHO OWNS THEIR OWN HOIM IN TERMS OF NOISE AND IN TERMS OF TIME LIMITS FOR THE FIRST RESTRICTION IS ON AMPLIFIED SOUND.

THIS WOULD BE THE RADIO, THE MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS, YOUR LOUDSPEAKER, KARAOKE MACHINE FOR EVEN YOUR CELLULAR PHONE.

ANYTHING THAT PRODUCES A SOUND THAT IS AUDIBLE.

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THAT IS AUDIBLE CANNOT BE HEARD DURING THE HOURS OF 9:00 P.M.

TO 8:00 A.M.

SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY AND 10:00 P.M.

TO 8:00 A.M.

FRIDAY THROUGH SATURDAY.

ON THIS IS OUTSIDE.

YOU CAN'T HAVE YOUR PHONE WITH THE MUSIC BLARING OUT AT 11:00 AT NIGHT.

YOU CAN'T DO KARAOKE OUTSIDE DURING THOSE QUIET HOURS.

FOR THE INSIDE NOISE IN TERMS OF AMPLIFIED SOUND, ANY MACHINE OR DEVICE THAT AMPLIFIES ANY TYPE CAN'T BE HEARD BE ON THE PROPERTY LINE OF THE SHORT-TERM RENTALS DURING THE DAY AND NIGHT.

THAT A CERTAIN SUITE NOISE.

THAT IS PRETTY CONSISTENT WITH OUR ORDINANCE NOW FOR THE POPULATION.

THE NEXT ONE, AND I WILL ANSWER QUESTIONS AFTER I EXPLAINED WHAT THE DIFFERENCES, IS RESTRICTIONS ON WHAT I CALL OUT SITE AMENITIES THAT CREATE NOISE.

THERE ARE PROPERTIES THAT HAVE QUIET HOURS.

AND SO WE JUST DEFINED WHAT THAT IS.

THAT IS OCCUPANTS OF A SHORT-TERM RENTAL ARE PROHIBITED FROM USING ANY OUTDOOR AMENITIES OR ENGAGING IN OUTDOOR GAMES OR OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES THAT CREATE NOISE BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 9:00 P.M.

AND 7:00 A.M.

SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY.

AND 10:00 P.M.

AND 8:00 A.M.

FRIDAY AND SATURDAY.

AND THAT THE OPERATOR OF THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL NEEDS TO HAVE A SIGN STATING TAKING CLEAR OF THESE RESTRICTIONS THEY NEED TO BE POSTED BY THE POOL IN THIS FALL IN ANY INTERIOR DOORS LEADING TO THE EXTERIOR AMENITIES.

YOU MIGHT HAVE THIS BIG CHEST GAME OUTSIDE OR LAWN BOWLING RECORD HOLDER IN.

INCLUDING OUR NOISE IN GENERAL MAKES NOISE.

THAT IS WHAT WE LOOKED AT HER WITH THESE TWO OPERATIONAL REQUIREMENTS IN TERMS OF NOISE.

ANY QUESTIONS?

>> I KIND OF GET IT AND I DON'T FORGET I UNDERSTAND THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO BE LIVING IN THE HOUSE AND NOT HAVE DONE THIS KIND OF NOISE ON A CONTINUAL BASIS.

BUT IT JUST SEEMS OVERKILL.

WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY HAVE A BOUNCY HOUSE AND ARE MAKING NOISE AND THE KIDS ARE COMING DOWN FOR YOU AND YOU HAVE TO SHUT IT OFF AT A CERTAIN TIME FROM YOU IS THAT FOR RESIDENTS TOO? IF SOMEONE IS A SHORT-TERM RENTAL AND THEY ARE THERE SITTING THERE AT 9:00, WE HAVE A RESIDENT NEXT DOOR THAT GIVES HIM THE RIGHT OR HER THE RIGHT TO DO THAT TO WHOEVER? MAYBE THESE PEOPLE HAVE COME DOWN TO ENJOY THEMSELVES TOO AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY ARE LOOKING ON THE LIST AND IT SAYS NOTHING AFTER 2:00 IN THE HOUSE NEXT TO THEM HAS ALL THIS NOISE.

ARE WE GOING TO GO OUT TO A RESIDENCE HOME AND TALK TO THEM ABOUT NOISE ORDINANCE ALSO?

>> WE WOULD CERTAINLY IF WE GET A COMPLAINT.

AND THIS WOULD BE COMPLAINT DRIVEN.

AND CERTAINLY IF I OWN A HOME AND HAD A BOUNCY HOUSE AT 11:00 AT NIGHT AND HAD A BUNCH OF ADULTS IN THE BOUNCY HOUSE AND IT WAS LOUD, POLICE WOULD GO OUT THERE.

THE SAME THING WITH THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL FOR THE DIFFERENCE IS THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL HAS A HARD TIME WITH THE HOMEOWNER IN HIS OWN HOUSE.

IT'S A REASONABLE STANDARD REQUIREMENT, WHICH IS IF IT DISTURBS ANOTHER PERSON.

IF IT REASONABLY DISTURBS ANOTHER PERSON THAT HAS REASONABLE HEARING CAPABILITIES.

SO YES, THE RULES ARE DIFFERENT.

WE WILL ENFORCE BOTH NOISE COMPLAINTS, BUT WE WOULD ENFORCE THEM DIFFERENTLY.

THE PRESUMPTION OF SHORT-TERM RENTAL WILL LIKELY HAVE NOT MAY BE A FAMILY AND A SMALLER HOUSE AND MIGHT HAVE 10 OR 12.

THIS IS ALL FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IN YOUR DISCUSSION AS WELL.

>> I'M TRYING TO GRASP ALL THIS.

IDEA BEHIND HAVING A SHORT-TERM RENTAL.

ARE THERE BAD APPLES AND EVERYTHING, YES.

THE PROBLEM YOU HAVE WITH THIS IS HOW DO YOU JUSTIFY OR VERIFY IT.

WE HAVE A COOL PLACE LIKE LET'S USE MONTAGE FOR OUR PAST CITY MANAGER MOVED, 171 OF THE SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

THE CHANCE OF THOSE PEOPLE COMPLAINING IS MINUTE TO NONE.

GIVE THESE PEOPLE AN ADVANTAGE OVER THE OTHER ONES OR IF YOU HAVE A NEIGHBOR NEXT TO YOU THAT JUST DOESN'T LIKE YOU READ MAYBE YOU DON'T GET THEM ALONG WITH THEM AND MAYBE RENT YOUR HOUSE OUT PART-TIME.

A LOT OF PEOPLE LEAVE THE DESERT.

ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS CALL TWO OR THREE TIMES THROUGH IT UNLESS WE VERIFY IT, I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT IS FAIR TO EVERYONE CONSIDERING SHORT-TERM RENTALS IS A BIG PART OF YOU AND I UNDERSTAND WHY THE CITIES HAVE DONE IT.

WITH THE $3 MILLION WE GET FROM SHORT-TERM RENTALS IS A LOT OF MONEY.

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I KEEP TELLING PEOPLE WE CAN'T HAVE THE CONCERTS WITHOUT THE SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

AND IF HOTELS START THE BACKUP THERE WON'T BE ANY CONCERTS.

THE MORE WE PUT ON THERE AND I UNDERSTAND IT IS HARD TO POLICE.

BUT I WANT TO BE FAIR AND MAKE SURE WE DON'T KILL THE GOOSE AND LAID THE GOLDEN EGG BY MAKING IT SO RESTRICTIVE TO OUR STUFF THAT EVENTUALLY THE CONCERTS OR SOMEONE ELSE GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.

LIKE VEGAS WHERE THEY CAN HAVE 500,000 HOTEL ROOMS AND THEY DON'T NEED TO WORRY ABOUT ANYBODY OTHER THAN A FEW THINGS.

THAT IS MY TWO CENTS WORTH.

>> A QUESTION IN REGARDS TO THE SAME COMMENTS.

MR. ANDERSON, TO HAVE A SET TIME FOR OUR CITY OR IS IT A COMPLETE BASIS.

WITH THAT PLAY INTO THE THREE STRIKES? AND I HAVEN'T GOTTEN THERE YET, BUT WHAT THIS PLAY INTO IT.

I WITNESSED SOME OF THESE THINGS.

HAVING DJS UNTIL 12:00.

YOU HAVE TO BE ABOUT A CERTAIN HOUR.

I CAN SEE THE CONCERN THERE.

WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE THERE?

>> TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE DON'T HAVE A TIME.

WE HAVE THE REASONABLE PERSON STANDARD.

WE GET A COMPLAINT AT ANY TIME IN A POLICE OFFICER, CODE ENFORCEMENT, AGENT OF THE GOVERNMENT SHOWS UP IN THE NOISE AND AS UNREASONABLE.

THE NOISE SUCH AS IT IS UNREASONABLE.

IF YOU ARE THE HOMEOWNER WE HAVE RESPONSE ORDINANCE WE GIVE YOU A NOTICE AND THAT NOTICE IS GOOD FOR UP TO 90 DAYS OVER THERE IS AN ASSUMPTION THERE YOU ARE THE HOMEOWNER, YOU ARE GOING TO ABIDE WITH A WARNING FOR THE 90 DAYS FOR THE DIFFERENCES THE 90 DAY PERIOD IS FOR THE WEEK IMPORTANT SO WE CAN'T TELL YOU AND TELL THE NEXT PERSON IT IS ON RESTRICTION FOR 90 DAYS.

SO WE NEED SOMETHING TO DEAL WITH THE OPERATION OF THE BUSINESS.

HOMEOWNERS ARE DIFFERENT BECAUSE HOMEOWNERS WE CAN PUT THEM ON NOTICE AND IF THERE IS A CONTINUED VIOLATION FOR A 90 DAY PERIOD, WE CAN RESPOND IN TWO CITATIONS AND WE HAVE A PROTOCOL FOR THAT.

FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS WE DON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AND HAVE IT LAST FOR THAT 90 DAY PERIOD.

>> I THINK ALSO IT WOULD GO INTO THE MODERNIZATION OF THE PROCESS.

BECAUSE IF YOU ARE RESPONDING TO THIS.

I HOPE YOU'RE LISTENING BACK THERE.

IF YOU RESPONDED TO THIS, HOW WOULD YOU KNOW THAT THEY BEEN WARNED.

THERE HAS TO BE SOME SORT OF TRACKING MECHANISMS WHERE YOU CAN SAY THIS IS THE SECOND TIME WE HAVE BEEN OUT THIS WEEKEND, WE NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION.

AND SO I THINK THIS ALSO PLAYS INTO THE IMPORTANCE OF REVAMPING OUR SYSTEM.

>> YOU ARE RIGHT.

>> A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

I TOTALLY AGREE WE NEED OUR SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

WE ABSOLUTELY DO.

WE ALSO NEED A BALANCE OF QUALITY OF LIFE.

THIS IS IN A EVERY NOW AND THEN KIND OF THING.

FOR PEOPLE THAT LIVE NEXT TO A SHORT-TERM RENTAL.

THAT COULD BE CRAZY PEOPLE THERE EVERY SINGLE WEEKEND SCREAMING AS THEY DIVE IN THE POOL AT 11:00 AT NIGHT.

OUR ABILITY TO MANAGE THAT IS IMPORTANT.

WHAT DO HOTELS.

IF I'M STAYING AT A HOTEL, I DON'T CARE.

WHETHER SAME MOTEL SIX OR HIGHER REGENCY BRUEGGEN HOW DOES THIS COMPARE WITH SOME OF THE NOISE STANDARDS?

>> NOT THAT I HAVE EVER BEEN KICKED OUT OF A HOTEL, BUT THEY DO HAVE NOISE STANDARDS.

IF YOU ARE A GUEST CREATING AN ABUNDANCE AMOUNT OF NOISE, HOTELS Â" MOST NOT ALL HAVE THEIR OWN PRIVATE SECURITY AND THEY WILL INVESTIGATE ORGAN AND NO HIGH END HOTELS WILL ESCORT PEOPLE OUT.

AND AGAIN, IT RAISES TO THE LEVEL OF THE ON COMMON DECENCY.

RAISES TO THE LEVEL OF HIS EXORBITANT AND ITS CONTINUED.

THEY GIVE A WARNING.

IS LIKE AND YOU TURN IT DOWN WE GOT A COMPLAINT.

AND THEN IT BECOMES MORE ESCALATED TYPE OF THING.

THAT IS ONLY MY EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH THE CITY THAT HAD A NUMBER OF LUXURY HOTELS THAT I CAN SAY THAT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT IS THE WAY THEY HANDLED IT.

WE HAD POLICE CALLED OUT TO THOSE HOTELS TO DEAL WITH THOSE TYPES OF ISSUES WITH HOTEL GUESTS.

>> AND THINKING THE LAST TIME POOL CLOSED THAT 10:00 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

>> AND I AM STATE OF A SHORT-TERM RENTAL AREA OUTSIDE THE STATE.

AND I REMEMBER WE WERE SITTING HAVING DINNER AND THEY SAID IT'S 10:00, IT'S A

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QUIET HOURS.

WE HAVE TO BE QUIET.

THEY DON'T TOLERATE THAT NOISE.

>> I THINK THE SHORT-TERM RENTALS WOULD NOT BE ANY MORE SEVERE THAN IF YOU WERE STAYING IN A HOTEL, WHICH IT IS WHAT IT APPEARS WE ARE STRIVING FOR.

>> ONE OTHER QUESTION.

SO WHEN THERE IS A COMPLAINT, IS IT BASED ON THE OFFICER HEARING IT SOMEBODY JUST CALLED UP AND SAID THEY ARE TOO LOUD? IF YOU SHOW UP AND THERE IS NO NOISE.

THERE IS NO ABUNDANCE OF LINKS.

THAT'S NOT A WARNING BECAUSE YOU CAN'T JUST HAVE SOMEBODY CALL A.

YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY HEAR IT.

>> AN OFFICER HAS TO WITNESS THE VIOLATION.

>> SO THEY SHOW UP AND SAY THERE ARE KIDS JUMPING IN THE POOL AT 10:00 AND YOU CAN HEAR IT BUT IT IS A BASIC THING.

YOU'RE GOING TO COME IN AND TELL THEM THERE HAS BEEN A COMPLAINT MADE IN THIS AND THAT AND YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK AROUND, MAYBE SIT THERE FOR A SERIES FEW SECONDS EVERY BUT THAT'S NOT A VIOLATION.

YOU LITERALLY HAVE TO Â" SO WE DON'T JUST HAVE SOMEONE CALLING OF SAYING THIS IS WHAT IT IS.

>> THAT IS ALL WE HAVE A LOCAL CONTACT PERSON.

IF WE GET SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE WILL HAVE THAT LOCAL CONTACT PERSON DEPENDING ON THE COMPLAINT THEY NEED TO MAKE A COMMUNICATION COME IN CONTACT WITH THE PERSON TO LET THEM KNOW THIS IS RECEIVING COMPLAINTS ABOUT NOISE AND IT IS INCUMBENT ON THE OWNER RUNNING A GOOD OPERATION OF THE LOCAL CONTACT PERSON THAT WE WILL CONTACT AND SAY THERE'S A NOISE COMPLAINT, KEEP IT DOWN.

OR IF IT IS SOMETHING THAT EGREGIOUS, WE CAN REQUIRE THAT PERSON TO GO OUT AND THEY HAVE THE RIGHT AS THE OWNERS AGENT WITHOUT A WARRANT AND TURNING IT INTO THAT PROPERTY FOR WHATEVER REASON.

>> I REMEMBER WE HAD ONE OF THE SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND WE HAD A QUITE A FEW.

HE HAS QUITE A FEW IN THE COUNTRY THE STATES THERE.

BUT HE INSTALLED NOISE MONITORS THAT WHEN HE GETS TO A CERTAIN LEVEL IT AUTOMATICALLY SENDS HIM A MESSAGE SAYING THIS LEVEL IN DIFFERENT AREAS.

IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING.

>> WE ACTUALLY BUILT THAT INTO THIS ORDINANCE.

NOT AS A REQUIREMENT, BUT IS SOMETHING DEPENDING ON THE LEVEL OF COMPLAINTS.

IT IS LOOKING TO LET HAS PILOT PROGRAM WITH RESPECT TO TWO THINGS, WHICH ARE BOTH VERY INTERESTING IS THE NOISE MONITOR YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

AND SO THEREFORE IT IS INCUMBENT ON THE OWNER TO TAKE THAT ACTION.

AND THERE IS A MECHANISM WHERE IT GETS INSTALLED IN THE HOUSE THAT IT WILL TELL YOU HOW MANY CELL PHONE LINES ARE IN THE HOUSE SO YOU KNOW IF THERE IS 100 CELL PHONES.

YOU PROBABLY KNOW.

THE HUNDRED CELL PHONE LINES ARE THERE.

AND THEN THAT SIGNALS TO THE OWNER I HAVE A PROBLEM BECAUSE THERE IS PROBABLY, IN ALL LIKELIHOOD, A GREAT NUMBER OF PEOPLE AT THAT HOUSE.

AND SO IN HERE, CAN'T FORGET WHERE.

BUT WE BILTON NOT AS A REQUIREMENT.

BECAUSE I THINK A STAFF WE NEED TO FURTHER EXPLORE THAT AND SPEAK TO OUR NEIGHBORS IN LA QUINTA AND LEARN FROM THEM AS WELL AND WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN EXPERIENCING.

BUT IF WE NEED TO AS A CONDITION, A FURTHER CONDITION IN TERMS OF PULLING THE PERMIT.

BRINGING IN THE PERMIT FOR REVOCATION OR A MODIFICATION BASED ON THE HISTORY AND BASED ON COMPLAINTS WE HAD VERIFIABLE ITEMS. AND THEN MAKING THAT MODIFICATION.

>> WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT BE SAY YOU WERE DUE FOR SOME SORT OF INSPECTION AND WE REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND SAY YOU HAVE FREQUENT COMPLAINTS OF YOUR NOISE.

THIS IS SOMETHING YOU MIGHT WANT TO.

>> WOULD BE Â" IF IT IS SO BAD WE HAVE TO BRING IN THE PERMIT FOR A SUSPENSION HEARING OR MODIFICATION HEARING OR REVOCATION HEARING, THAT MIGHT BE ONE WAY TO CURE THE ISSUE.

THE OWNER AS WELL, THEY ARE PROBABLY GREAT OWNERS THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON.

YOU DON'T WANT TO PUNISH EVERYBODY FOR THE FEW BAD APPLES THAT WE HAVE REALLY HAD GREAT DISCUSSIONS AMONGST STAFF ON HOW TO REACH THAT BALANCE AND HOW TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PROMOTE GOOD BEHAVIOR AND PUNISH THE BAD BEHAVIOR.

THAT IS THINGS WE WERE STRUGGLING WITH INTERNALLY.

I WILL GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE IF THEY CAN PULL THAT UP.

I AM LOOKING AT THE WRONG FOR THEIR THIS.

THAT'S GREAT.

SO THE NEXT BIG THING IS OCCUPANCY.

WE HAD SOME DISCUSSION WHEN WE WERE HERE LAST TIME WITH RESPECT TO IT.

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OUR CURRENT OCCUPANCY LEVEL IS AN OVERNIGHT ONLY AND IT IS TO PER BEDROOM +2 ADDITIONAL PEOPLE.

AND IT CAN BE INCREASED THROUGH A REQUEST OF BUILDING AND SAFETY AND FURTHER INSPECTION WITH RESPECT TO INCREASING THE NUMBER OF PERSONS THAT CAN STAY BASED ON THE CONFIGURATION OF THE HOME.

WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS RIGHT OFF THE BAT EVERYONE GETS A FOUR PERSON OCCUPANCY.

AND IT WOULD BE THEN +2 FOR EACH BEDROOM.

AND MAYBE I WILL DO THE NEXT SLIDE BECAUSE IT IS EASIER TO SEE.

WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS RIGHT OFF THE BAT YOU GET FOR AND THEN FOR EVERY BEDROOM TO GET TO MORE.

UP TO A MAX OF EIGHT BEDROOMS. AND SO YOU MAX OUT AT 20.

ONCE YOU MAX OUT.

THIS IS AN OVERNIGHT ONLY.

FOR A DAYTIME, FOR MORE THAN 20 PEOPLE WE CAME UP WITH A NUMBER OF 25.

IF YOU HAVE A GATHERING OF 25 PERSONS, WHETHER IT'S DURING THE DAY OR IN THE EVENING YOU HAVE TO COME IN FOR WHAT WE ARE CALLING RIGHT NOW THE SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT FOR LACK OF A DIFFERENT TERM AT THE MOMENT ORGAN THAT WOULD BE TOO ADDRESS THE LARGE GATHERINGS OR HOMES BEING USED FOR SPECIAL EVENTS.

WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION WITH RESPECT TO THIS IN TERMS OF TRYING TO FIND WHAT THE SWEET SPOT IS.

BUT ALSO TRYING TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE LARGE HOMES IN THE CITY.

WE MAY HAVE A LARGE HOME THAT IS THREE BEDROOMS WERE YOU HAVE A DEN THAT HAS A PULLOUT COUCH WE HAVE A LIVING ROOM THAT MAY HAVE A PULLOUT COUCH.

IT'S A BALANCE.

IN TERMS OF WHERE SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES ARE.

PALM SPRINGS CAPS OUT AT FOUR BEDROOMS WITH EIGHT OVERNIGHT.

WE ARE AT 12.

BUT THEN THEY HAVE A CONCEPT WHERE THEY DETERMINE THAT ANY HOME THAT HAS FIVE BEDROOMS OR MORE IS IN A STATE.

AND THEN YOU ARE REQUIRED TO GET A SPECIAL PERMIT FOR THE USE OF DATA STATE.

A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT FOR RANCHO MIRAGE IS SIMILAR TO RANCHO MIRAGE.

THEY OUT AND SEVEN OR MORE BEDROOMS SET OVERNIGHT FOR 14.

AND THEY DO REQUIRE A SPECIAL PERMIT FOR MORE THAN 25 PEOPLE REQUIRING A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT.

AND THEN LA QUINTA TOPS OUT AT NIGHT NINE BEDROOMS WITH 18 OVERNIGHT.

AND FOR THE DAYTIME IT IS 18 TO 24.

AND THEN CATHEDRAL CITY CAPS OUT AT FIVE BEDROOMS WITH A MAXIMUM OF 10 OCCUPANTS.

IT IS A LITTLE ALL OVER THE BOARD BUT I CAN'T SIT HERE UNTIL IT'S A REAL SCIENCE TO IT.

I THINK WE WERE TRYING TO BALANCE SOME OF THE THINGS WE HEARD AT THE LAST MEETING, WHICH WAS WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE THE LACROSSE TEAM TO COME AND HAVE A GATHERING OR SOMEBODY HAS A LARGE FAMILY TO HAVE THANKSGIVING WHERE THEY ALL DECIDED TO COME TO THE DESERT AND HAVE THANKSGIVING.

WE WANTED TO PROVIDE MORE CERTAINTY IN THE PROCESS IN TERMS OF NOT HAVING TO HAVE STAFF GO OUT TO.

AND FIGURE OUT OKAY, HOW CAN YOU REALLY FIT IN CHANGING THE MAX CAN SIMPLY.

THAT IS WHY WE DECIDED TO GIVE FOR UP FRONT BECAUSE IT DOES INCREASE THE NUMBERS.

THEY WERE GIVEN MORE MAYBE TWO OR FOUR IN THE RANGE OF MORE OCCUPANCY.

WE TRIED TO BALANCE THE CONSISTENCY OF A.

IN SOME CITIES HAVE DATE OF OCCUPANCY THAT IS HARD TO REGULATE.

THE OVERNIGHT IS A LITTLE BIT EASIER.

WE ALSO TRY TO BALANCE HOW TO ADDRESS THOSE HOMES THAT WE KNOW THAT MAY HAVE A SHORT-TERM RENTAL PERMIT.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME THEY ARE BEING USED FOR EVENTS.

WHAT WE DON'T WANT IS FOR THAT TYPE OF USE TO USE THE GUYS OF A SHORT TERM RENTAL PERMIT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A WEDDING.

IF YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE A WEDDING OR A LARGE GATHERING, YOU NEED TO COME IN FOR A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT.

EVEN IF THAT MEANS IT IS EVERY WEEK.

BUT AT THAT POINT IN TIME, I THINK IN TALKING THE PLANNING WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHETHER WE NEED TO CLARIFY THE ZONING FOR THOSE TYPES OF USES IF IT IS A LARGE ESTATE HOME WHERE THERE IS AN AREA WHERE THERE ARE VERY LARGE ESTATE HOMES.

AND SO I THINK WE WERE TRYING TO LOOK AT A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT THINGS AND COMING UP WITH THIS.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING ELSE OR ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO ADD AN THINK.

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>> I JUST WANT TO ADD THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS WE LOOK AT WHAT ARE THE EFFECTS.

WHAT ARE THE EFFECTS OF THE COMMUNITY WHEN THERE ARE LARGE GATHERINGS.

ITS LOUD NOISE, PARKING ISSUES AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT PARKING IN A MINUTE AND THAT GOES INTO THE CALCULATION AS WELL.

WE ARE LOOKING AT WHAT IS THE EFFECT.

AND BEING REASONABLE TO THE OPERATORS.

WE ARE TRYING TO STOP THE BAD ACTORS, STOP THE EFFECTS ON THE COMMUNITY AND BALANCE THAT WITH THE OPERATORS.

>> MAYBE I BEFORE I GET QUESTIONS FROM YOU, WE TALK ABOUT THE PARKING REAL QUICK.

AND SO THAT WAY YOU KNOW HOW PARKING PLACE INTO IT.

SO THERE ISN'T ANY CURRENT PARKING LIMITS OR RESTRICTIONS.

WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING AS PART OF THIS PARKING PLAN IS NOT NECESSARILY LIKE SOME CITIES WILL DO, THEY WILL LOOK AT YOU HAVE TEVA PARKING SPACE FOR EVERY SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE HOUSE.

WHERE THEY MANAGE PARKING IN A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT WAYS.

AND SO LOOKING AT ABOUT A DIFFERENT TYPES ORDNANCES FROM DIFFERENT CITIES IN TERMS OF PROVIDING PARKING.

AND REALIZING YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE PARKING ON-SITE AS WELL.

SUITE LIKE THAT THAT IS A LIMITATION AND INSTEAD RETURN EARNED THE PARKING AROUND AND SAID LOOK, PARKING ON-SITE WILL BE MEASURED BY YOUR MAXIMUM NUMBER OF VEHICLES YOU CAN HAVE THAT RENTAL IS GOING TO BE MEASURED BY HOW MANY PARKING SPACES CAN YOU FIT LEGALLY ON-SITE.

THAT IS YOUR DRIVEWAY, YOUR PARKING GARAGE.

THAT IS NOT THE FRONT YARD, THAT IS NOT THE APRON, IT IS LEGAL PARKING ON-SITE PART OF THE ZONING CODE.

THAT WOULD BE YOUR DRIVEWAY AND YOUR GARAGE.

AND IF YOU HAVE FOUR SPACES, EVEN IF YOUR HOUSE ALLOWS FOR 12, YOU HAVE FOUR SPACES AND THAT IS IT.

WHEN WE PROVIDED AN ALLOWANCE THAT WE COULD HAVE ONE OF THE FOUR SPACES COULD BE ON THE STREET IF WERE EVER YOU ARE ALLOWED US TO BE IN FRONT OF THE HOME.

OR ALTERNATIVELY, THE WAY WE LOOKED AT PARKING IS ONE VEHICLE BEDROOM.

SO IF YOU HAD THREE BEDROOMS YOU HAVE DEBBIE OR MAX VEHICLES IS THREE.

BUT AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE A HOUSE THAT HAS EIGHT BEDROOMS BUT YOU CAN ONLY LEGALLY PUT FOUR PARKING SPACES, YOU ARE MAXED OUT AT FOUR.

AND SO THAT IS HOW WE LOOKED AT PARKING VIS-Ã -VIS THE OCCUPANCY OR JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE LET'S SAY A HOUSE THAT HAS FIVE BEDROOMS, IF IT HAPPENS TO BE A HOUSE THAT IS FIVE BEDROOMS WITH NO PARKING, YOU ARE KIND OF OUT OF LUCK ON THE PARKING SIDE AND THAT IS WHAT CAUSES THE IMPACTS BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE THEN FLOW INTO THE STREETS AND PEOPLE GET UPSET.

AND SO WE WANT TO CONTAIN THE IMPACT ON-SITE.

AND SO THAT IS THE WAY WE TACKLE BIT.

AND WE ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND HEAR THOUGHTS AND YOU CAN TELL US WHAT YOU ARE THINKING.

>> IF THEY HAVE 12 PARKING SPACES THEY ARE LIMITED TO FOUR ANYWAYS? WHAT HAPPENS YOU ARE ALLOWED 25 PEOPLE.

25 PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COME IN FOR CARS.

>> I THINK SOME OF US FELT VERY STRONGLY ABOUT YOU HAVE A BIG HOUSE AND LOTS OF PARKING AND YOU CAN UTILIZE THOSE SPACES.

AND I THINK IN SOME RESPECT THAT MAKES SENSE.

A HOUSE THAT HAS 12 PARKING SPACES ON-SITE IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE A VERY LARGE LOT.

AND SO IF WE WANT TO LOOK AT IT THAT WAY, WE CAN WRITE IT THAT WAY.

YOU ARE MAXED OUT AT HOW MANY CARS YOU HAVE ON-SITE.

AND THAT WOULD BE FOR YOUR OVERNIGHT PEOPLE, BUT ALSO YOUR GUESTS AS WELL.

BUT AGAIN, WE ARE OPEN TO ANY DISCUSSION IN LOOKING AT THIS DIFFERENTLY.

>> I CONTINUE TO LOOK AT IT, LIKE MY MAKERS.

NEVER FAMILY GATHERING OF 15 PEOPLE.

THEY ARE PARKED UP AND DOWN THE WHOLE CAR.

YOU FAMILY GATHERING, IT'S UP AND DOWN.

THEY UNDERSTAND THE IMPACTS.

I JUST THINK IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO BE ABLE TO POLICE WHOSE CAR IS WHAT.

IS PUBLIC SAFETY GOING TO GO IN AND SAY IS THIS YOUR CAR, IS THIS YOUR CAR, IS THIS YOUR CAR.

EVENTUALLY YOU INFRINGE UPON OTHER PEOPLES RIGHTS AS YOU START TO CONTINUE TO GO THROUGH.

I CAN SEE IT PARTWAY, BUT I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW DOES THE NEW LAW COMING IN CALIFORNIA WHERE YOU CAN HAVE A CASITA, YOU CAN SELL THE STUFF, YOU CAN PARK

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WHEREVER YOU WANT.

IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOUR HOA SAYS YOU CAN'T PARK ON THE STREET UNLESS YOU CAN PROVIDE PARKING.

HOW DOES THAT AFFECT OTHER.

>> THERE ARE PROVISIONS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE HAVE DONE BEFORE.

WILL LOOK ACETO-WE HAVE NOT ADDRESSED BEFORE.

BUT IF YOU HAVEN'T ADU, A CASITA, YOU'D BE PROHIBITED FROM USING THOSE AS SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

AND IF YOU LIVE IN AN APARTMENT HOUSE YOU ARE PROHIBITED FROM USING THAT AS A SHORT-TERM RENTAL.

LET'S SAY THERE'S A DUPLEX AND HE RENTS THAT, YOU RENT ONE OF THE HOUSES ON THE LOTS, YOU ARE PROHIBITED FROM HAVING A SHORT-TERM RENTAL.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS OWNER DRIVEN.

IT IS NOT RENCHER DRIVEN.

WE ARE TRYING TO RESPECT TO THE FACT THAT CASITAS COMMIT ADU AND J ADU ARE MEANT TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS WELL.

WE ARE TRYING TO BALANCE THAT.

I DO THINK YOU HAVE A POINT WITH RESPECT TO MAYBE IT IS NOT THE LESSER.

IF YOU HAVE ENOUGH SPACE FOR ALL THOSE CARS AND THAT IS THE MAX NUMBER OF SPACES FOR YOUR RENTAL, FOR THAT WEEKEND EMMA IS HIGHLY UNLIKELY THERE WILL BE TWO OR THREE CARS, NOT 12.

BUT THE ONE ENOUGH SPACE TO HAVE THOSE TWO FAMILIES.

FOR US AS WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO KEEP THEM OFF THE STREETS.

AND DID BUILD INTO THEIR, IS NOT A PARKING VIOLATION.

IT WOULD BE A VIOLATION OF THE ORDINANCE THAT WOULD BE ISSUED AGAINST THE RENTER.

IF HE HAS ANY OF HER GUESTS ARE OCCUPANTS WHICH ARE GUESTS OVERNIGHT OR OTHERWISE, IF THEY PARK SOMEWHERE ON THE STREET AND NOT ONLY PROPERTY, THEY GET A CITATION.

IS NOT A PARKING CITATION, IT'S A CITATION BECAUSE YOU ARE VIOLATING THE RULES OF THE ORDINANCE.

AGAIN, HOW WE FIGURE THAT OUT, WE ARE GOING TO ASK FOR LICENSE PLATE NUMBERS SO THAT WAY WE CAN SEE IF THE LICENSE PLATE NUMBER MATCHES THE SHEET.

I KNOW IN EVERY SITUATION YOU WILL NOT HAVE TRUE COLLECTORS.

BUT AT LEAST WE ARE TRYING TO MANAGE IT RATHER THAN NOT ADDRESS IT.

>> I THINK THE ONLY PART THAT IS GOING TO BE DIFFICULT Â" AND YOU CAN HAVE 10 OR 12 PARKING SPOTS YOU USE ALL YOUR PARKING SPOTS.

YOU SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO LIMIT SOMEONE ELSE'S PROPERTY, THAT IS THEIR PROPERTY.

>> THAT'S FINE.

>> IF YOU HAVE 25 PEOPLE, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO WAY YOU'RE GOING TO GET THEM TO DO CARS.

YOU HAVE PEOPLE COME AND THEY STAY AT OTHER PLACES AND THEY ARE GOING TO GO TO A HOUSE.

IS A UNREALISTICALLY THAT THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BRING 15 CARS COMING 12 COURSES BEING UNREALISTIC.

>> I KNOW.

AND I DON'T DISPENSE THAT.

I RECOGNIZE THAT THERE ARE DIFFICULTIES WITH ENFORCEMENT.

BUT I THINK AGAIN IT WILL ALL PLAY INTO THE RENEWAL OFFICE IN TERMS OF COMPLAINTS OR WHERE IT BECOMES DIFFICULT.

IF YOU HAVE A RENTER THAT IS MINDFUL OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN TERMS OF CARS AND IT'S DISCRETE, NO ONE IS GOING TO NOTICE BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT CAUSING PROBLEMS. AND THIS REALLY COMES INTO THOSE THAT ARE CAUSING PROBLEMS. OF THE PARTIES AND DIFFERENT THINGS.

THAT'S WHAT WE TRY TO FIGURE OUT THAT NUMBER AND WE LOOK AT VARIOUS ORDINANCES IN THE RANCHO MIRAGE DEFAULT OF 25 IS THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A GATHERING OF 25 OR MORE, WE WILL MAKE IT EASY.

IT IS JUST A SIMPLE TYPE OF PERMIT.

THAT WE KNOW AND WE CAN CONDITION IF WE NEED TO.

OVER THE FAMILY THANKSGIVING, IT'S RECOGNIZING THAT OKAY, THIS IS THE WAY THAT WILL WORK.

BUT IF IT IS A CORPORATION THAT WANTS TO THROW A GIVEAWAY STUFF AND CHARGE ADMISSION, THAT'S NOT PERMITTED.

HOWEVER, WE ARE BUILDING IN THIS SPECIAL PERMIT PROCESS TO RECOGNIZE THAT THERE ARE SOME HOUSES THAT ARE MORE VENUE ORIENTED AND THEY ARE SITUATED WHERE MAYBE THERE IS NOT ABLE TO IMPACT OR WE CAN REQUIRE A VALET OR WE CAN REQUIRE OFF-SITE PARKING WITH SHUTTLES.

THERE ARE DIFFERENT WAYS TO MANAGEMENT IT.

IS TRYING TO HAVE US GET IN FRONT OF THE ISSUE RATHER THAN REACT TO THE ISSUE THAT NIGHT.

>> ON THAT NOTE I THINK THERE IS LOTS MORE CONVERSATION PARIS I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE MORE CONVERSATION.

CAN WE CONTINUE THIS TO A STUDY SESSION THE FIRST WEEK OF OCTOBER? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE HAVE GOT TO DO THE CLOSED SESSION.

HOW DOES EVERYBODY FEEL ABOUT THAT?

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>> I NEVER GOT A CHANCE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS.

>>ELAINE HOLMES : COUNCILMEMBER, PLEASE DO.

EVERYONE IS JUMPING AND SO PLEASE GO RIGHT AHEAD.

>>LUPE RAMOS AMITH : AT THIS POINT WE ARE OVER THE TIME LIMIT.

>>ELAINE HOLMES : FIVE OR 10 MORE MINUTES Â" ARE CLOSED SESSION IS THAT EXTENSIVE.

SO PLEASE WEIGH IN.

>>LUPE RAMOS AMITH : I DON'T FEEL THIS ORDINANCE IS READY TO MOVE.

I THINK WE STILL NEED TO HAVE A LOT OF DISCUSSION.

I'M HESITANT ON THE PARKING ISSUE FOR NUMBER ONE, PROPERTY OWNERS DON'T HAVE CONTROL OF PUBLIC STREET PARKING.

SO TO REQUIRE THEM TO UTILIZE A PARKING SPACE THAT IS IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY IS KIND OF UNREASONABLE.

IF I HAVE 25 FAMILY MEMBERS COME OVER FOR THANKSGIVING UP MY HOUSE, THEY ARE CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO ALL GIVE ME THE LICENSE PLATE NUMBER THROUGH THE WHOLE PARKING ISSUE, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE TRYING TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT ON THE OVERFLOW ON THE STREETS, BUT THEY ARE PUBLIC STREETS.

AND I DON'T THINK IT IS RIGHT FOR US TO TRY TO REGULATE WHAT IS AVAILABLE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.

SO I'M LEANING TOWARD OMITTING ENTIRELY THE PARKING SECTION.

I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANY WAY WE CAN REGULATE THAT.

IS JUST MY POSITION AT THIS TIME.

I WANT TO GO BACK TO COMMIT NO COMMERCIAL ACTIVITIES.

THE OWNER SHALL USE REASONABLE PRACTICES, LARGE PARTIES ARE PROHIBITED UNLESS YOU HAVE A SPECIAL EVENTS PERMIT.

OKAY.

AND I TOO TAKE ISSUE WITH SUBSECTION 3701 5B OF THE SHORT-TERM RENTALS MAY NOT BE RENTED TO ANY CORPORATION, LLC, COMMERCIAL COMPANY OR SIMILAR ENTITY.

THAT IT HAS TO BE A HUMAN BEING.

THAT'S NOT RIGHT EITHER.

WE CERTAINLY HAVE LONG TERMINALS WITH RENT TO SHORT-TERM BUSINESSES, WHY ARE WE RESTRICTING SHORT-TERM DO NOT RENT TO BUSINESSES.

THEY WOULD JUST HAVE THE RESPONSIBLE PARTY FOR US TO INTERACT WITH.

SO AGAINST STAND AGAINST THE ITEM BE.

IN SUBSECTION 3701 FOUR SECTION D, I DON'T THINK THAT WE CAN CONTROL THE ANCILLARY SERVICES THAT ANY PLATFORM CAN BE COLLECTING A FEE FOR DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY.

ALL PLATFORM STILL EXPERIENCES WITH THEIR SHORT-TERM RENTALS DAYS.

SO FOR US TO TRY TO ENFORCE A PRACTICE ON A PRIVATE ENTERPRISE IS OUT OF THE SCOPE OF WHAT THE CITY HAS THE ABILITY TO DO.

AND IN SEVERAL OTHER SECTIONS WHEN THE ORDINANCE REFERS TO A RESPONSIBLE PERSON, I WANT TO RESPECT FULL REPRESENTATIVE.

BECAUSE IN THE CASE OF A COMPANY OR AN AGENCY OR A PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY, IS GOING TO BE REPRESENTATIVE.

THE AGE OF 25 DIFFERENT TO COMMIT I WOULD LIKE TO LOWER THAT TO 21.

21 IS A RESPONSIBLE AGE.

YOU CAN JOIN THE ARMY AT 18.

I THINK YOU CAN BUY A GUN AT 18.

WE CAN'T SHORT-TERM RENT TO SOMEONE UNTIL THEY ARE 25 IS TOO RESTRICTIVE.

THOSE ARE JUST MY GENERAL COMMENTS AND FIRST GLANCE.

I REALLY DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO ASK QUESTIONS.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE ANOTHER STUDY SESSION ON THIS.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

AND SO WE WILL SORT OF CONTINUED THIS TO THE NEXT MEETING.

>> I DID WANT TO MENTION SOMETHING THAT WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED OUTSIDE THE ENFORCEMENT ISSUES.

WHEN WE TALK TO SOME OF THE REAL ESTATE AGENTS OUT HERE, THEY ARE SAYING MORE AND MORE ARE VERY FEW PROPERTIES ON THE MARKET, RIGHT? AND MORE AND MORE OF THEM ARE GETTING BOUGHT OUT BY CORPORATIONS THAT ARE LOOKING TO DO SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

THEY ARE OUTBIDDING OUR RESIDENTS WERE LOOKING FOR HOMES.

AND SO HOW DO WE MITIGATE THAT DURING THE HOUSING CRISIS, RIGHT? I THINK IF WE HAVE, IF WE SEPARATE THOSE OUT INTO WHICH PERMITS A RESIDENT OWNED AND WHICH PERMITS ARE CORPORATE OWNED.

I WOULD LIKE TO LIMIT ANY Â" I DID STOP FOR THE MOMENT AND GIVING PERMITS POINTED OUT THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE YEAR SO THAT OUR FAMILIES HAVE HOMES TO PURCHASE AND THEN THEY CAN MAKE THE MONEY OFF THE SHORT-TERM RENTALS DURING THE FESTIVALS.

OR A FEW WEEKENDS OUT OF THE YEAR.

BUT I THINK WE SHOULD DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN PERMITS THAT ARE RENTED THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE YEAR AND THEN PERMITS THAT ARE RENTED FOR A FEW WEEKENDS BY PEOPLE WHO OWN THE HOMES.

>>ELAINE HOLMES : OKAY.

THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.

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