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>>> I WILL CALL TO ORDER THIS MEETING IN THE INDIO PUBLIC ART COMMISSION ON

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OCTOBER 12, 2021 AT 5:30 P.M.

CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE CLICK.

>> CHAIR PERSON BUCK.

>> YOUR.

>> VICE PERSON SCHINSKY.

>> HERE.

>> COMMISSIONER NEUMEYER.

>> HERE.

>> COMMISSIONER CRUZ-ZENDEJAS.

>> HERE.

>> COMMISSIONER BECERRA.

>> HERE.

>>THOMAS BUCK: THANK YOU.

MOVING ON TO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

COMMISSIONER SCHINSKY , WOULD YOU MIND LEAVING US THIS TIME?

>>BILL SCHINSKY : SURE.

READY, BEGIN.

AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>>THOMAS BUCK: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[3. STATEMENT FROM THE COMMISSION SECRETARY]

WE HAVE NEXT A STATEMENT FROM COMMISSION SECRETARY.

>> THE GENERAL RULES OF COURTESY FOR VIRTUAL MEETINGS ARE AS FOLLOWS.

PLEASE BE MINDFUL OF BACKGROUND NOISE WHEN JOINING VIRTUAL MEETING.

PARTICIPANTS MUST MEET ALL LIVE STREAMING OF ICE DEVICES TO AVOID PLAYBACK FOR MEETING PARTICIPANTS MUST MUTE THE MICROPHONE TO HELP KEEP BACKGROUND NOISE TO A MINIMUM WHEN THEY ARE NOT SPEAKING.

WHEN YOUR MICROPHONE IS NOT MUTED, AVOID ACTIVITIES THAT COULD CREATE ADDITIONAL NOISE.

POSITION YOUR CAMERA PROPERLY.

IF YOU USE A WEB CAMERA, BE SURE IT IS IN A STABLE POSITION AND FOCUSED AT EYE LEVEL IF POSSIBLE.

IF YOU WILL BE SHARING CONTENT FOR THE MEETING, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE FILES AND/OR LINKS READY TO GO BEFORE THE MEETING BEGINS AT.

NUMBERS ON THE PUBLIC WISHING TO MAKE AN ORAL TESTIMONY MUST FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS ON THE AGENDA AND/OR ONLINE IN ORDER TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR AGENDA OR NON-AGENDA ITEMS. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO PROVIDE ORAL TESTIMONY HAVE THREE MINUTES TO PROVIDE ORAL TESTIMONY.

>>THOMAS BUCK: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[4. PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA]

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

WE DO HAVE ONE FROM JONATHAN WITH THE TOPIC OF COMPENSATION OF LOCAL ARTISTS AND BEST PRACTICES AND ARTIST/ MUNICIPAL CONTRACTS.

>> THERE IT IS.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS JONATHAN, AND THE LOCAL ORGANIZER AND EVENT PRODUCER IN EAST COACHELLA VALLEY.

WON A RACE TO THE CITY OF INDIO, VERY PROUD OF WHAT WE DO WITH THE ARTS IN THE COMMUNITY WE BUILT IN THE EASTERN COACHELLA VALLEY.

BILL HAS BEEN IN ANGER FOR A LOT OF THE EVENTS WE HAVE DONE HERE, FOR A LOT OF GROWTH AND WHAT WE CAN NOW TAP INTO IN TERMS OF MAKING MONEY FROM ART.

SO I WAS AT AN ART SHOW LAST WEEK IN PALM DESERT AND I WAS APPROACHED BY MULTIPLE ARTISTS WERE VERY MUCH CONCERNED WITH THE FACT THEY HAD DONE WORK FOR THE CITY OF INDIO IN REGARDS TO PAINTING OUR BOXES AND HAD YET TO BE COMPENSATED.

AND WERE REALLY DISTRESSED AND UPSET AND IT WAS REALLY SHOCKING TO BE PART OF WITNESSING HAVING THESE PEOPLE CONSUMMATELY NEW COULDN'T HELP THEM ACTIVELY BUT THEY WERE JUST SO DESPERATE FOR REASSURANCE FOR ANSWERS.

I CAME TO YOU GUYS TODAY TO EXPRESS THAT WE WORKED REALLY HARD TO PATCH TOGETHER AN ECONOMY IN EASTERN COACHELLA VALLEY.

INDIO HAS BEEN A SIGNIFICANT PART OF THAT.

AND SO WHAT HAPPENS HERE AFFECTS US ALL IN THE REGION WERE GREAT NOW, CURRENTLY I AM WORKING ON PRODUCING WITH THE COMMITTEE, SYNERGY FAST.

WE TAP INTO THE SAME ARTISTS YOU GUYS USE.

IT IS INCUMBENT ON US AS PARTNERS IN THIS GROWTH REALLY JUST PAY THEM.

I DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE TO BE POLITE ABOUT THAT.

IT'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY AND I KNOW THE WORK THEY HAVE DONE IS SUBSTANTIAL AND WELL DONE GOOD AND JUST AN EXTENSION FROM THAT, HAVING HEARD THAT, DIVING INTO THE PAST VIDEOS FROM THE COMMISSIONS, AND SEEMS TO ME WE ARE KIND OF AT AN IMPASSE ON HOW THESE PEOPLE SHOULD BE CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGATED TO READ MY REAL SUGGESTION HAVING DONE THESE KINDS OF DEALS.

WE WERE USED TO WORK THE BLOCK PARTY, A LOT OF EVENTS WHEN YOU BRING IN THESE KIND OF ARTISTS TO THESE KINDS OF PROJECTS IS REALLY JUST BEST TO MAKE IT TIGHT WITHIN THE PROJECT.

IF IT IS TEMPORARY, TEMPORARY.

OF IT IS LONG-TERM, LONG-TERM.

OF YOUR COMMISSIONING PARTICULAR ART, COMMISSION IT.

BUT IT IS SOMETHING YOU ARE DISPLAYING ORIGINAL ART, WE SHOULDN'T BE ASKING FOR ANYTHING BEYOND THE TIME AND ENERGY AND NOTHING THAT PREVENTS THEM FROM MAKING MORE MONEY FROM THE ORIGINAL ART SOMEWHERE ELSE.

I REALLY BELIEVE THESE ARE PLATFORMS AND THEY ARE VERY NECESSARY PLATFORMS, BUT WE KIND OF HAVE TO TIGHTEN IT UP.

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BECAUSE IT IS OUT THERE NOW.

PEOPLE ARE FEELING THIS KIND AWAY.

I KNOW INDIO CAN DO BETTER.

WE HAVE, WE WILL.

BUT IT IS UPON PEOPLE TO BRING IT TO YOU GUYS.

I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME FROM YOU I WORKED AROUND A LOT OF YOU AND YOU GUYS HAVE THE BEST INTERESTS AT HEART, BUT REALLY THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR OUR COMMITTEE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>>THOMAS BUCK: THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE WHICH ARE MINUTES.

>> CHAIRPERSON, WE HAVE ANOTHER REQUEST TO SPEAK VIA ZOOM FROM VANESSA RIVERA.

>>THOMAS BUCK: FANTASTIC.

>> I WILL BRING HER OWN NOW.

>> HELLO.

SORRY?

>> YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

>> THANK YOU.

SO A LITTLE BIT, HELLO EVERYONE THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME THE TIME.

MY COMMENT IS REGARDING SOMETHING I HAVE HEARD MENTIONED IN PAST MEETINGS

[7.1 Recommendation to City Council Regarding Mural Conservation Assessment and Cost Estimates]

AND ON SOCIAL MEDIA, FROM PEOPLE WHO WERE INVOLVED IN FROM THE SPEAKER WHO WAS JUST BEFORE ME THAT ARTISTS WHO HAVE PREVIOUSLY HAD THEIR WORK DISPLAYED ON TRAFFIC SIGNAL BOXES IN THE CITY, WHICH I BELIEVE A CONTINUATION OR A SIMILAR PROJECT OF WHAT IS ON THE AGENDA TODAY HAVE STILL NOT RECEIVED PAYMENT FOR THEIR WORK.

THINK ALSO THE DISCUSSION IN TERMS OF THE LANGUAGE SPECIFICALLY IN THE CONTRACT NEED SORTING OUT.

I THINK ALL THAT SHOULD BE A PRIORITY.

I WANT TO SEE THE CITY THRIVE AND BE ABLE TO HAVE THESE PROJECTS AND ESPECIALLY WITH LOCAL ARTISTS.

BUT IT MAY BE A FUTURE OBSTACLE TO FIND THE LOCAL ARTISTS AS HAD WHAT IT ALLUDED 2 TO SUBMIT FOR THESE KINDS OF PROJECTS IF THERE IS RECENT EVIDENCE THAT SHOWS IT MAY NOT BE TREATED THE BEST.

THAT WAS ALL THERE WAS A NOTE HAS BEEN DISCUSSED AND I HOPE YOU ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT SO I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR TIME.

THAT'S ALL.

THANK YOU FROM GOD.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS?

>> THERE ARE NONE.

>>THOMAS BUCK: MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE WHICH ARE MINUTES.

WE ALSO HAVE NONPRINT MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER SIX.

PRESENTATIONS.

WE HAVE NONE.

MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, ACTION ITEMS. WE DO HAVE A DETAILED ONE, WHICH IS RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL REGARDING CONSERVATION ASSESSMENT AND COST ESTIMATES.

JUST TO READ THE BRIEF HERE, EVERGREEN ARCHITECTURAL ARTS WAS RETAINED BY THE CITY TO CONDUCT A COMPREHENSIVE CONDITION ASSESSMENT OF 11 PUBLICLY AND PRIVATELY OWNED MURALS WITHIN AND AROUND DOWNTOWN INDIO ORGANIZATION EVERGREEN ARCHITECTURAL ARTS ANALYZE AND PROVIDE A COST ESTIMATE FOR REMEDIAL CONSERVATION TREATMENTS FOR EACH OF THE MURALS.

THE COMMISSION WILL REVIEW THE ASSESSMENT AND COST ESTIMATES MAKE ONE OR MORE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING POSSIBLE NEXT STEPS, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO MURAL TREATMENTS AND-YEAR-OLD DIA SESSION ACTIONS.

AND THAT IS IN OUR BIG INFORMATION PACKET RIGHT HERE.

I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYONE HAS TIME TO GO THROUGH THIS OR HAS QUESTIONS.

KEVIN, THANK YOU FOR ORGANIZING ALL THIS AND PUTTING IT TOGETHER.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE BEST PLACE TO BEGIN WOULD BE.

I KNOW THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE HERE FROM STAFF.

>> MAYBE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS FROM STAFF?

>> THAT WOULD BE GOOD.

>> FIRST, THANK YOU COMMISSION.

THIS IS AN ITEM YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH RENEW IS A COMMISSION HELPED IN THE SELECTION OF THE FIRM AND THE FIRM NOTED IN THE STAFF REPORT DID CONDUCT CONDITION ASSESSMENT OF ALL MURALS PROVIDED THE PROFESSIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS AND SUBSEQUENTLY ALSO PROVIDED THEIR RANGE OF COST OF WHAT THE REMEDIAL TREATMENT COULD LOOK LIKE FROM WHAT I WOULD CALL MINOR TREATMENT ACTIONS TO MAJOR TREATMENT ACTIONS.

THE GOAL OF THIS EFFORT IS TO ADDRESS THE FACT WE HAVE AN INVENTORY OF MURALS IN AND AROUND THE DOWNTOWN AREA BUT NOT ALL DIRECTLY.

SUMMER ADJACENT AND THEY ARE IN VARIOUS STAGES OF CONDITION AND THERE IS INTEREST, THERE HAS BEEN INTEREST EXPRESSED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND BY COMMISSION IN THE PAST IN TERMS OF PENALIZING THE CONDITION OF THOSE MURALS AND DETERMINING THE NEXT BEST COURSE OF ACTION.

THIS WAS PUT ON AN ACTION ITEM, NOT THAT YOU HAVE TO TAKE ACTION TONIGHT, BUT IN THE EVENT YOU WANTED TO THAT YOU COULD TAKE ACTION IN TERMS OF MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

YOU DON'T NEED TO TAKE ACTION TONIGHT.

YOU CAN DECIDE TO HOLD US OVER UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING IF YOU WANTED TO DISCUSS IT FURTHER.

BUT WITH THE POTENTIAL OF ACTION, I THOUGHT IT BEST TO PUT IT UNDER THE ACTION COMPONENT.

THE REAL GOAL AS I SEE IT IS TO GET THE COMMISSIONS FEEDBACK THAT ULTIMATELY IF

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YOU SO CHOOSE COULD BE PUT FORWARD IN TERMS OF REGULATION THE CITY COUNCIL.

AS MENTIONED IN THE STAFF REPORT, SOME OF THE COSTS TREATMENTS FOR SOME OF THE MURALS ARE QUITE HIGH IN TERMS OF COST.

IN THE BUDGETING OR THE FUNDING FOR REMEDIAL TREATMENT OPTIONS WOULD COME OUT OF THE ART AND PUBLIC PLACES FUND, WHICH I MENTIONED IN THE STAFF REPORT HAS A BALANCE.

BUT THAT BALANCE IS SOMEWHAT UNENCUMBERED BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER ACTIONS GOING ON SUCH AS THE ART INSTALLATION AND THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT AND OTHER THINGS.

WHAT I DID, AND BY NO MEANS WAS IT INTENDED TO TAKE AWAY FROM A CONVERSATION WITH HELP IN THE CONVERSATION, AND LAID OUT SOME OPTIONS FOR YOU TO THINK ABOUT OR AT LEAST TALK ABOUT INTERMENTS AND POTENTIAL NEXT STEPS YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER RECOMMENDING TO CITY COUNCIL.

SO WITH THAT I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT CERTAINLY THIS IS A COMMISSION DISCUSSION AND I AM HERE TO SUPPORT A.

>> I HAVE THOUGHTS BUT I WILL SAVE MINE.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR THOUGHTS?

>> WELL, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SPEND MORE TIME LOOKING AT THIS DOCUMENT.

I JUST RECEIVED IT AND KIND OF FOR ROOSTED QUICKLY.

YOU ARE RIGHT, KEVIN, THE NUMBERS ARE OUTRAGEOUS.

[LAUGHING] FOR SOME OF THEM THEY ARE CHARGING MORE THAN THE ORIGINAL MINERAL COST.

AND MY FIRST THOUGHT WAS NO, I CAN'T ACCEPT THAT.

AND SO I WOULD LIKE MORE TIME TO GO THROUGH THIS.

SOME MAY DESERVE TO BE SAVED AND MAYBE THEY SHOULD ALL JUST DIE A NATURAL DEATH, I DON'T KNOW.

BUT I NEED MORE TIME.

>> I WILL FOLLOW BILL WITH THAT.

I BELIEVE THAT THERE REALLY HIGH COST AND I THINK WE CAN SEE THEM AND MAYBE START A NEW.

>> THAT'S HOW I'M LEANING PERSONALLY.

IF IN THE REPORT AND IT MENTIONS THE HIGHEST COST ONES ARE ONE, FOUR AND FIVE, WHICH HAVE COSTS OF $161,000, $128,000 AND $111,000.

THAT'S A LOT OF HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS ON MURALS HEARD MURAL NUMBER ONE IS FROM 1997, NUMBER FOUR FROM 1998, NUMBER FIVE IN 2000 SO THEY ARE ALL OVER 20 YEARS OLD.

AND I THINK IT IS JUST SORT OF TIME, THEY HAVE HAD THEIR TIME AND IN MY OPINION WE CAN MOVE ON TO NEW THINGS THAT PROBABLY WON'T EVEN COST THAT MUCH TO INSTALL A BRAND-NEW MORE RELEVANT, MORE SIGNIFICANT AND MORE VISUALLY PLEASING MURAL THAN THOSE ONES RIGHT THERE.

I DO PERSONALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF MOVING FORWARD WITH SOMETHING, BUT I DEFINITELY WOULD BE LEARNING LEANING TOWARD DIA SESSION FOR QUITE A FEW OF THESE.

I LIKE THE IDEA OF RECOMMENDING TO COUNSEL THAT IF THERE ARE CERTAIN ONES THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS A LOT OF CARE FOR THAT ARE IN A REASONABLE COST THAT WE FIX THOSE, D SESSION THE REST AND MAKE THE CITY BEAUTIFUL WITH NEW ARTWORK.

THAT IS WHERE I'M LEANING PERSONALLY.

>> I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.

THE COST IS QUITE EXTREME CONSIDERING MOST OF THESE WENT UP FROM ANYWHERE FOR 1/3 OF THOSE.

AND TALK ABOUT ESPECIALLY ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, ETC. HAVE OUTLIVED IN THE EXPECTED TIMEFRAME FOR ANY OF THESE MURALS.

I WOULD MAKE THE CASE TO ADD LEAST EXPLORE SAVING THE FIRST ONE.

IF NOT BEING ABLE TO SAVE IT AS IS IN ITS CURRENT FORM IS THE REPLICATOR TO TRY TO PRESERVE IT IN SOME FORM.

WHETHER IT'S TAKING IT ALL THE WAY BACK TO ORIGINAL CONDITION.

BECAUSE IT IS THE FIRST MURAL, IT IS THE ONE THAT SPURRED A LOT OF THE PUBLIC ART THOUGHTS HERE IN DOWNTOWN.

AND IT DOES DISCUSS SPECIFICALLY THE HISTORY OF THE AREA.

AND LIKE I SAID, IT IS THE FIRST MURAL THAT MADE IT INTO ANY PUBLIC ART HERE IN INDIA.

SOME OF THESE OTHERS, I THINK WITH THE HISTORY OF DATES I THINK WE HAVE REPAINTED THAT ONE AT LEAST TWICE.

I THINK IT HAS BEEN PAINTED 1/3 TIME.

THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT ISSUES WITH THE BUILDING THAT I DON'T THINK IT WILL SUPPORT REPAINTING IT ANOTHER TIME.

THAT IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION.

WE DO HAVE A LOT OF RESIDENTS AND HAVE A LOT OF STRONG FEELINGS BECAUSE THEY HAVE EMAILED ME MANY TIMES ABOUT TRYING TO SAVE SOME OF THESE MURALS THAT ARE FALLING APART.

SO THAT IS WHY WE HAVE GONE THIS ROUTE.

I WOULD BE OPEN TO DISCUSSING LESSER OPTIONS FOR SOME OF THESE.

OBVIOUSLY FOR A FEW OF THEM GOING FORWARD.

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THE NUMBER IS STAGGERINGLY TOO HIGH TO DO ALL OF IT, OBVIOUSLY.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD DISCUSS HAVE BEEN AN AD HOC TO SEE IF ANYTHING IS WORTH SAVING OR WHAT.

I KNOW COUNSEL IS GOING TO HAVE THEIR OWN FEELINGS ON SOME THESE MURALS AS WELL.

SO THAT IS IT.

>> I AGREE.

I THINK WE SHOULD GO INTO DISCUSSION WITH THESE MURALS.

I DO ACTUALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING SOME NEW AND FRESH MURALS GOING UP AS WELL, BUT I DO AGREE AS FAR AS THE COST.

I'M NOT AN EXPERT, BUT SOME OF THEM DO LOOK LIKE THEY ARE VERY DAMAGED.

IT IS INTERESTING TO HEAR SOME OF THE BUILDINGS, THAT MIGHT BE AN ISSUE AS WELL.

SO DEFINITELY UP FOR ANOTHER DISCUSSION WOULD BE GREAT.

>> AGE 8 MENTIONED THERE ARE A NUMBER OF RESIDENTS IN INDIA THAT HAVE A STRONG CONNECTION TO, I AM ASSUMING PROBABLY THE EARLIER MURALS.

AND THIS MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMISSION TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY IN RAISING THE MONEY TO SAVE THEM.

THE IDEA OF TAKING THAT MUCH MONEY FROM THE PUBLIC ART FUND IS STAGGERING.

BUT IF THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO SAVE THE THINGS THEY LOVE, THE COMMUNITY SHOULD GET INVOLVED AND HELP SAVE IT FINANCIALLY AS WELL.

THAT IS WHY I THINK WE NEED MORE TIME.

>> HOW WOULD DEKE SECTIONING, LET'S SAY THE CRITICAL AND POOR PIECES AND STARTING, INCLUDING THOSE PIECES THE HISTORY OF TRANSPORTATION IS INCLUDED IN THAT ONE.

AND THEN JUST STARTING SOME SORT OF FORM WITH THE COMMUNITY TO REBUILD THE MURALS AND SEEKING THEIR INPUT ON WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE IN THOSE SPACES.

>> I THINK THIS IS A CASE WHERE THE COMMUNITY SHOULD HAVE A SAY OF WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE SAVED, IF ANYTHING.

BUT IF THEY WANT TO SEE THEM SAVED, THEY NEED TO WORK WITH US IN FINDING THE FUNDS TO SAVE THEM.

THEY CAN'T DEPEND UPON THE PUBLIC ART FUND SPOKE WHAT IF THE PUBLIC ART FUND COVER THE MURALS? IF WE WANT TO PUT THEM UP, WITH OUR PUBLIC ART FUNDS?

>> IT DEPENDS.

AS MENTIONED IN THE STAFF REPORT, SEVERAL OF THEM ARE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY SO IN ORDER TO UTILIZE ART IN PUBLIC PLACES FUND, WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE AN AGREEMENT, WHICH WE DID GET AGREEMENT WITH SOME OF THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS.

IF THEY DO ENTER INTO THE AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY AT THAT POINT THERE IS A POSSIBLE UTILIZATION OF ARTS IN PUBLIC PLACES FUND IF THEY DON'T ENTER INTO THE AGREEMENT IN ESSENCE IT IS A PRIVATE PARTY MATTER.

IT IS OF INTEREST TO THE PUBLIC, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE LEGAL AUTHORITY TO ENTER THE PROPERTY TO MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE MORAL, INCLUDING REMOVING IT THROUGH A PAINTING OR REPAIRING IT.

WOULD HAVE TO OBTAIN THE OTHER AGREEMENTS AND THEN ASKED THE COMMISSION, HE RECOMMENDED AND THE COUNCIL ADOPTED A POLICY SO WE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT POLICY WHICH INCLUDES A PUBLIC HEARING BOTH HERE AND AT COUNSEL.

SO THERE IS A PROCESS AS WELL AS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.

>> LISTED HERE ARE THREE PRIVATE PROPERTIES WE DID TURN INTO A LEASE AGREEMENT.

THOSE DON'T HAVE LEASES ANYMORE? IF YOU ARE AWARE THAT THERE ARE LEASES, I WILL GO BACK AND LOOK FOR THEM.

>> THERE SHOULD'VE BEEN ONE FOR THE GARCIA BUILDING BECAUSE THAT WAS OWNED BY THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY OF THE CITY.

I DON'T KNOW WHO IS CURRENTLY ON THE BUILDING IF IT SOLD.

>> IF IT IS FORM REDEVELOPMENT PROPERTY, IT IS STILL OWNED €" THE REDEVELOPMENT PROPERTY SOLD TO THE CITY.

ANY OF THE CITY-OWNED BUILDINGS ARE NOT.

>> I DON'T KNOW IF THE CITY STILL OWNS IMPORTANT.

>> YOU DON'T HAPPEN TO HAVE THE ADDRESS OF THE TOP YOUR HEAD, DO YOU?

>> IT'S RIGHT HERE.

>> I KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THAT IS AT.

I DIDN'T KNOW THE REFERENCE.

MY APOLOGIES.

>> YOU CAN ASK WHEN MILLER ABOUT THAT.

>> I BELIEVE THAT IS PART OF THE INVENTORY SO IT WOULD BE A CITY-OWNED BUILDING.

>> THAN THE OTHER ONE I'M TALKING ABOUT IS THE REBIRTH BY COUNSELOR, WHICH ON THE SIDE OF THE CONVENIENCE STORE DOWN HERE.

WHICH I THOUGHT AT ONE POINT WE HAD ENTERED INTO A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH THE OWNER OF THE BUILDING.

>> I WILL LOOK FOR THAT.

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I HAVE NOT RUN ACROSS THAT, BUT I HAVE NOT EXHAUSTIVELY GONE THROUGH.

>> IT WAS ONE OF THE NEWER ONES COMMISSIONED BY THE ARTS COMMISSION AS OPPOSED TO PRIVATE BUSINESS BEFOREHAND.

>> I WILL LOOK FOR THAT AND FOLLOW UP WITH THE COMMISSION.

>> WHEN IT COMES TO THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL BOXES, THE FUNDS TO PAY THOSE ARTISTS, WHATEVER INTO BEING DECIDED, THAT COMES ON THE PUBLIC ARTS FUND?

>> CURRENTLY THE ONLY FUNDING IS THROUGH THE ARTS IN PUBLIC PLACES FUND, WHICH IS PAID FOR OUT OF FEES RELATED TO DEVELOPMENT.

>>THOMAS BUCK: SO IN THE FUTURE IF WE COME UP WITH SOMETHING FOR TRAFFIC SIGNALS, THE MORE MONEY WE HAVE IN THE ARTS FUND THE MORE MONEY WE CAN PAID ARTISTS TO CREATE ART.

>> CORRECT.

ANY PROJECTS ARE CURRENTLY FUNDED OUT IN THE ARTS IN PUBLIC PLACES FUND.

WEATHERBY THE MURAL PROGRAM OR ANY OTHER, THAT IS THE ONLY CURRENT FUNDING SOURCE THAT WOULD PAY FOR ALL OF THAT.

>> WE DO HAVE A REQUEST TO SPEAK ON THIS TOPIC FROM JONATHAN?

>> I WILL BE REALLY SHORT BECAUSE I VERY MUCH AGREE WITH THE DIRECTION YOU ARE GOING THROUGH THE CITY NEW VISION CAN VERY MUCH APPRECIATE PEOPLE WANTING TO PRESERVE OLDER MURAL BUT I DON'T THINK PUBLIC ART IS MEANT TO BE STATIC FOR THIS IS THE CONVERSATION WE HAD AS A COMMUNITY VISUALLY.

IT IS IMPORTANT THAT KIND OF COMMUNICATION WE CAN FACILITATE IN THESE FORMAL SETTINGS.

UNTIL WE FACILITATE WITH EACH OTHER OUT OF THERE.

BRINGING FRESH NEW IDEAS I THINK IS CRUCIAL TO WHAT SHOULD BE FOR THE COMMUNITY AND VERY MUCH IN SUPPORT OF YOU GUYS DOING MORE OF THAT.

LOOKING FOR COMMUNITY INPUT.

MORE DIFFERENT MURAL AND PERSONALLY THE HISTORY.

IF IT CAN JUST AT LEAST BE CLEANED OFF SOON.

IT'S HARD TO LOOK THERE IS NO OFFENSE TO THE ARTIST TO DO THAT, I'M SURE IT WAS BEAUTIFUL.

A LOT OF THESE PIECES NEED SOME LOVE.

APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

>> I THINK IT'S AN EXAMPLE.

IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN, THAT BUILDING IS PRIVATELY OWNED, CORRECT?

>> CORRECT.

WE HAVE HAD DIFFICULTY TRYING TO REACH THE OWNER AND EVEN REACHING AN AGREEMENT.

I KNEW WE HAD IT REPAINTED AT LEAST TWICE IN MY TIME HERE.

THE BUILDING WILL NOT SUPPORT AND UNFORTUNATELY.

>> IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE THE PRIVATELY OWNED BUILDINGS, THOSE THAT DO NOT WANT TO SIGN AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY ARE ASSISTING US AND TELLING US WHICH ONES TO GET RID OF OR NOT TO DO ANYTHING WITH AT ALL.

IF THEY DON'T WANT TO SIGN AN AGREEMENT, IT WILL DIE A NATURAL DEATH.

SLOWLY UNFORTUNATELY FOR SOME.

>> I FEEL LIKE WE ARE PROBABLY NOT READY TO BRING THIS TO A VOTE YET, BUT I THINK IT WAS COMMISSIONER NEUMEYER MENTIONED AN AD HOC COMMITTEE MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA TO GET A LIST OF THESE ARE THE MURALS, AND A CHRISTIAN MENTIONED SOME SORT OF RANKING THINGS OF THE POOR AND CRITICAL ONES.

AND FOCUS ON THE OTHER ONES WERE AND WHAT DOES EVERYONE THINK IS A WAY TO GO FORWARD MOST EFFECTIVELY?

>> I THINK AN AD HOC WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.

WE CAN GET A LOT OF WORK DONE THAT WAY.

THE PREVIOUS AD HOC COMMITTEE DID.

CONSIDER WAITING EVERY MONTH WE COULD DO SOMETHING IN THE MEANTIME.

>> AD HOC IS TO.

>> THAT IS CORRECT.

>> IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, AND THINK WE BASICALLY DO A CONSENSUS ON FORMING ONE AND THEN WE TAKE VOLUNTEERS.

>> THAT IS CORRECT.

YOU CAN SOLICIT VOLUNTEERS AND BY THE CONSENSUS OF THE COMMISSION AND THEN THOSE TWO MEMBERS ARE ABLE TO WORK BETWEEN MEETINGS.

BE ABLE TO BRING BACK EITHER INFORMATION, THOUGHTS, IDEAS AND THEN YOU AS A GROUP CAN CONSIDER THAT IN TERMS OF YOUR NEXT STEPS INCLUDING DEVELOPING A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNSEL.

>>THOMAS BUCK: DO WE HAVE ANY VOLUNTEERS WOULD LIKE TO SERVE? COMMISSIONER SCHINSKY AND NEUMEYER? DO WE HAVE A CONSENSUS FOR THAT? DO WE HAVE OBJECTIONS TO THAT?

>> IF WE CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING BY THE NEXT MEETING SO IT DOESN'T

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PROLONG ANY DECISIONS.

>> I SAID NO OBJECTION HERE.

>>THOMAS BUCK: OKAY.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOAL TO DO AN AD HOC COMMITTEE AND THEN THE COMMITTEE IS ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER SO THAT WE AT OUR NEXT COMMISSION MEETING IN NOVEMBER WE HAVE CLEAR GUIDANCE ON SOMETHING WE CAN BRING TO COUNSEL.

I THINK THAT IS A GREAT IDEAL.

>> ARE WE ABLE TO DO A SURVEY TO READ EITHER ONLINE OR SUBMIT IT ANYWAY?

>> MY DEPARTMENT DOES HAVE ACCESS TO SURVEYMONKEY.

IF YOU COULD GIVE IN CONTEXT AND WHAT YOU ARE THINKING.

>> EITHER COMMENTS.

MOST PEOPLE DON'T EITHER KNOW OR PARTICIPATE IN THE PUBLIC ART COMMISSION COMMENTS.

BUT I DO KNOW WE GET A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE COMMENTING ON THE STATUS OF PUBLIC ART IN THE MURALS SPECIFICALLY.

I'M JUST WONDERING IF WE CAN PUT OUT A BLURB ASKING FOR COMMENT READ SAVE, DON'T SAVE, ETC. I WOULD HAVE TO PUT MORE THOUGHT INTO IT.

>> MAY I SUGGEST THAT MAYBE YOURSELF AND THE VICE CHAIR AS PART OF THE AD HOC COMMITTEE COULD IDENTIFY POTENTIAL QUESTIONS AND I CAN WORK WITH YOU TO DEVELOP SOMETHING THAT CAN GO ON SURVEYMONKEY FOUR? WOULD THAT WORK?

>> SURE.

>>THOMAS BUCK: ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR THOUGHTS ON ITEM 7.1 BEFORE WE KIND OF PUT A PEN IN IT UNTIL OUR NEXT MEETING? GREAT.

THEN WE CAN MOVE ON TO €" LET ME FIND IT.

[8.1 Sarbale Ke Installation Update: An update on the resumption of this planned art installation project including a review of key actions and milestones and post-installation next steps.]

SECTION 8 WHICH WOULD BE STAFF ITEMS AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE QUITE A FEW STARTING WITH 8.1.

TRENTON UPDATE.

>> I DID PREVIOUSLY SEND OUT TO THE COMMISSION THE INSTALLATION SCHEDULE PROVIDED BY GOLDEN PLACE APPARATUS IN THAT EMAIL TO YOU SEPTEMBER 22.

AND PROBABLY A COUPLE OF IMPORTANT DATES TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT IT'S OCTOBER 17 IS THE TRANSPORT DATE.

AND SO THAT IS THE DATE IN TALKING WITH THE REPRESENTATIVE THERE WILL BE EIGHT TRUCKS WITH A TOTAL OF 26 PIECES.

THEY HAVE BEEN REFRESHING THE ART.

SINCE IT HAS BEEN SITTING FOR A WHILE NOW THEY ACTUALLY JUST REPAINTED IT WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE ARTIST.

ON OCTOBER 17 THERE WILL BE A TRANSPORT ACTION FROM THE POLO CLUB TO DOCTOR CAREY AND PARK THAT WILL REQUIRE TRAFFIC CONTROL.

THAT WILL REQUIRE POLICE ASSISTANCE.

SO THAT HAS ALL BEEN COORDINATED.

AND WE ALSO FINALIZED AND OBTAINED ALL NECESSARY BUILDING PERMITS.

SINCE THIS WILL BE A 10 YEAR INSTALLATION, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE ATTACHED APPROPRIATELY.

SO WE ARE POURING IN PLACE FOUNDATIONS FOR THEM.

IF YOU WENT TO COACHELLA WHEN THEY ARE THERE, THEY WERE TIED DOWN BUT THEY WERE NOT INSTALLED INTO THE GROUND.

BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO BE IN A PUBLIC PARK AND ARE GOING TO BE THERE FOR A SIGNIFICANT PERIOD OF TIME, WE ARE GOING TO ACTUALLY ANCHOR THEM INTO A CONCRETE FOUNDATION SO IT WILL BE A MORE PERMANENT SITUATION THAN YOU MIGHT HAVE EXPERIENCED IF WE SAW THEM IN COACHELLA.

AND THEN FOLLOWING THE INSTALLATION THERE WILL BE CONTINUED WORK TO REFINE.

AND THE GOAL RIGHT NOW IS BY THE END OF OCTOBER, AROUND OCTOBER 29 AND 30TH, THE INSTALLATION WOULD BE COMPLETE.

WITH OTHER IS FOLLOW-UP ACTIVITY THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AROUND LANDSCAPING AND LIGHTING.

WE ARE WORKING WITH A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT THE RELEASE OF THE DRAWINGS AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO SEND THEM OUT TO YOU.

BUT THEY ARE ABOUT 95 PERCENT COMPLETE.

AND THE DESIGNERS, THE HERMAN DESIGN GROUP.

UNTIL THESE WILL GO OUT TO BID FOLLOWING OUR PUBLIC BIDDING PROCESS.

AND THEN WE WILL GET RESPONSES BACK IN THE LOWEST RESPONSIBLE BIDDER MEETS ALL NECESSARY REQUIREMENTS AND THAT WOULD BE ACTION.

HOWEVER, THERE'S LIKELY TO BE A PERIOD OF TIME BETWEEN THE INSTALLATION IN THIS LANDSCAPING AND LIGHTING INSTALLATION PERIODS OF THE ART INSTALLATION AND LIGHTING INSTALLATION.

WE MAY HAVE A SITUATION WHERE WE MAY WANT TO TEMPORARILY SECURE THE ART SO THAT IT DOESN'T BECOME TOO ATTRACTIVE.

SO WE ARE LOOKING ON DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES TO DO THAT.

POTENTIALLY INSTALLING CONSTRUCTION FENCING AROUND IT TO MANAGE THE ART PIECES BEFORE THIS FINAL WORK IS DONE.

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ONE ADDITIONAL THING IN LOOKING INTO RIGHT NOW IS THE POTENTIAL FOR ADDING SECURITY CAMERAS.

AGAIN, IT'S GOING TO BE IN A VERY PUBLIC SPACE, IT'S GOING TO BE THERE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME SO IT MAY BE GOOD TO HAVE SECURITY CAMERAS.

IN WORKING WITH THE PERMISSION OF THE ARTISTS, WE WILL BE LOOKING TO ENCLOSE THE MAJORITY OF THE ART PIECES.

IF YOU WANT TO COACHELLA YOU COULD WALK INTO THE ART PIECE, BUT IN RECOGNITION THIS IS A DIFFERENT SETTING AND NOT ENCOURAGE THAT FOR A PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO HANG OUT LONGER THAN THEY SHOULD, THE MAJORITY WILL BE ENCLOSED WITH DOOR ACCESS TO GET INSIDE AS NECESSARY.

SOME OF THE SMALLER PIECES WON'T HAVE THAT, BUT THE LARGER PIECES WILL.

THAT IS AGAIN INTENDED TO REDUCE THE POTENTIAL FOR HUMAN USE OF THE ART.

SO AGAIN, THAT HAS BEEN COORDINATED WITH THE ARTIST.

HE HAS APPROVED OF THAT THROUGH GOLDEN VOICE AND HAS ACKNOWLEDGED THE NEED FOR THE IN THIS PARTICULAR SETTING.

UNFORTUNATELY THE ARTIST IS IN EUROPE RIGHT NOW.

HE WILL BE AVAILABLE TO BE AT THE INSTALLATION, BUT IS WORKING IN CLOSE COORDINATION WITH GOLDEN BOY AS REPRESENTATIVES.

I THINK THAT'S ALL THEY WERE NOT HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

IT IS EXCITING TO SEE THIS MOVING FORWARD.

WE WILL BE VIDEOING THE TRANSPORT AND THE INSTALLATION SO WE WILL HAVE KIND OF A VIDEOGRAPHY OF THIS SINCE IT IS A MAJOR ART INSTALLATION WITH THE GOAL OF BEING ABLE TO SHOW THAT PUBLICLY.

WE EXPECT SOME FOLKS WILL SHOW UP TO WATCH.

BUT FOR THOSE WHO AREN'T ABLE TO OR DON'T WANT TO, THERE WILL BE A TIME WHEN WE WILL POST IT ON THE CITY WEBSITE.

SO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND WATCH THE PROGRESSION OF THE INSTALLATION.

>> I WOULD CERTAINLY HOPE THAT THE LOCAL T.V.

PEOPLE WILL BE OUT THERE.

>> WE HAVE MADE THEM AWARE.

AS LONG AS WE STAY AT A RESPECTABLE DIFFERENCE DISTANCE, NOT A PROBLEM.

AND THE GOLDEN BOY FOLKS WILL SET IT UP SO THAT IT IS VISIBLE BUT OBVIOUSLY THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE THEIR AREA OF WORK AND THAT WILL BE CONTROLLED DURING THE INSTALLATION.

BUT WE DO ANTICIPATE THIS WILL ELICIT INTEREST FROM THE NEWS MEDIA.

>> IF PROTECTIVE FENCING IS PUT AROUND, I AM ASSUMING IT WOULD BE THAT SCREENING?

>> TYPICALLY FOR TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION FENCING IS TYPICALLY CHAIN LINK FENCING SECURED IN PLACE.

IT WOULD BE VISIBLE UNLESS, IN SOME INSTANCES YOU PROBABLY SEEN THERE IS FABRIC INSTALLED.

I THINK IN THIS INSTANCE WE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY PUT FABRIC AND BECAUSE WE WOULD LIKE IT TO BE VISIBLE.

OBVIOUSLY SOME ARE GOING TO BE TOLD TO BE VISIBLE BY THEMSELVES, BUT IT IS A MATTER OF TRYING TO GET PEOPLE OUT OF THE SPACE UNTIL IT IS FULLY READY.

>> IS THERE ANY PLAN TO HAVE SOME SORT OF SIGNAGE UP FOR THE PUBLIC TO READ TO SEE WHAT IS GOING ON HERE? OFTEN TIMES THERE'S NO EXPLANATION OF WHAT IS GOING ON BEHIND THE FENCE.

AND THINK IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO THE CITY, TO THE PUBLIC, TO THE ARTS COMMISSION IF THERE WAS AN EXPLANATION OF WHAT IS HAPPENING.

>> A VERSION OF IT COMING SOON? SO YES, THERE IS A PLAN TO HAVE A BANNER.

I AM WORKING WITH THE LANGUAGE WITH THE COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR ON THAT AND WE DO HAVE TO HAVE A SEMIPERMANENT SIGN THAT WOULD BE THERE TO DESCRIBE THE ARTIST, THE ARTWORK AND ITS MEANING SO THAT FOLKS COULD BE ABLE TO READ THAT.

WE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT WHETHER IT SHOULD BE IN A PLATFORM OR SOME OTHER WAY.

WE WILL PROBABLY COME BACK AND TALK WITH THE COMMISSION ABOUT YOUR IDEAS ON THAT AS WELL.

BUT FOR THE PURPOSES OF WHAT THE VICE CHAIR JUST SAID, THE COMING SOON BANNER, YES.

>> FOR THE SECURITY CAMERAS HE MENTIONED THEY ARE JUST THERE DURING THE CONSTRUCTION AND INSTALLATION?

>> ACTUALLY, THE THOUGHT AT THIS TIME IS THAT THEY WOULD ACTUALLY BE PERMANENT.

SO IT WOULD BE A WAY TO HELP MANAGE SECURITY OF THE ART OVER THE LONG TERM.

SO WE ARE INVESTIGATING THAT WITH OUR FACILITY FOLKS RIGHT NOW TO SEE WHAT IS AVAILABLE TECHNOLOGY PER THE TECHNOLOGY HAS GOTTEN TO THE POINT IS WIRELESS TECHNOLOGY CAN BE AVAILABLE.

IF UNFORTUNATELY SOMETHING DOES HAPPEN, IT'S A WAY TO RECORD WHO THE POTENTIAL OFFENDER MIGHT BE AS WELL.

SO THERE ARE TWO PHASES OF RECORDING.

ONE IS THE VIDEOGRAPHY OF THE INSTALLATION AND THE INITIAL INSTALLATION LEADING UP TO OCTOBER AND THEN THE LONG-TERM SECURITY WOULD BE INSTALLING VIDEO CAMERAS

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THAT WOULD MONITOR THE PROPERTY SINCE WE WON'T ALWAYS HAVE POLICE OR OTHER PHYSICAL PRESENCE THAT WOULD BE THERE PERMANENTLY DURING THE INSTALLATION PERIOD.

>> THE SECURITY CAMERAS WOULD BE IN A PUBLIC SPACE?

>> RIGHT.

THIS IS ALL VERY COMPLEMENTARY, BUT THE THOUGHT IS WE WILL HAVE LIGHTING OUT THERE IN THE THOUGHT WOULD BE TOO ATTACH THEM TO THE LIGHTING.

THERE WILL BE PULLED LIGHTING AND THEY WOULD BE OUT THERE ALONG WITH SOME SORT OF SIGNAGE ALERTING FOLKS THAT THEY ARE ON VIDEO CAMERA AND DISCOURAGING ANY NEFARIOUS ACTS.

>> IS THERE ANYWHERE ELSE WE HAVE SECURITY CAMERAS?

>> WE DO.

SUMMA OR PUBLIC PUBLIC BUILDINGS.

WE DO HAVE THEM AND THIS IS BEING LOOKED AT AS PART OF A WAY TO ENHANCE SECURITY AT PARKS.

>> THINK YOU.

>>THOMAS BUCK: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANKS SO MUCH FOR THE UPDATE.

NOW ITEM 8.2 IS TRAFFIC SIGNAL BOX UPDATE.

[8.2 Traffic Signal Box Update: An update on the current status of the Traffic Signal Box program following the Commission’s July 13 recommendation to Council for proposed box wrap designs.]

>> A COUPLE OF THINGS ON THIS THREAD AS COMMISSION IS AWARE, HE MADE A RECOMMENDATION A CITY COUNCIL.

AT THE DIRECTION OF THE CITY MANAGER I WILL BE BRINGING FORWARD THE RECOMMENDATION IN THE NEAR FUTURE TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

I WILL ALERT THE PLANNING €" NOT PLANNING COMMISSION.

ARTS COMMISSION OF ONE THAT IS GOING TO COUNCIL.

IF YOU'RE INTERESTED AND WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT CONVERSATION BUT THE INTENT IS TO PRESENT WHAT YOU RECOMMENDED TO THE COUNCIL AND SEE WHAT THE COUNCILS THOUGHTS ON THAT ARE.

IF I COULD, I DO WANT TO NOTE THE PAYMENT TO THE ARTIST.

WE ARE ADDRESSING IT.

UNFORTUNATELY I HAD UNDERSTOOD THE PAYMENTS WERE BEING PROCESSED, BUT THAT WAS WRONG.

SO I REACHED OUT TO BOTH ARTISTS AND I MADE CONTACT WITH ONE OF THEM TODAY.

THEY ARE PROVIDING THE €" WE JUST NEED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO PROCESS THEIR PAYMENT AND THEN HOPEFULLY WILL HEAR FROM THE UNDER ARTIST AND WILL EXPEDITE THOSE PAYMENTS SO THEY ARE PAID AND APOLOGIES TO THE ARTISTS.

THAT IS NOT OUR INTENT REALLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN PAID IN A TIMELY FASHION.

SO MY APOLOGIES TO BOTH OF THEM AND HOPEFULLY I WILL GO BACK AND THE SECOND ONE SOON AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO GET THOSE PAYMENTS DONE IN VERY QUICK ORDER.

THEN ON THE ISSUES OF THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE CONTRACT, I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT WE CAN'T DISCUSS IT THIS EVENING, THE APPROVAL OF THE CHAIR I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THIS BE BROUGHT BACK ON NOVEMBER 9 FOR DISCUSSION AT THAT TIME THE CITY ATTORNEY IS AVAILABLE AND SHE CAN PRESENT AND ENGAGED IN A DIALOGUE ON HER VIEWPOINTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS AS THE CITIES LEGAL COUNSEL.

SHE IS AVAILABLE AND SHE DOES PLAN TO ATTEND IN PERSON.

>>THOMAS BUCK: THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

>> IF THE COMMISSION IS OKAY WITH NOVEMBER 9 WE WILL GET THAT AGENDIZED AND HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AND SEE WHERE WE GO FROM THERE.

AND RIGHT NOW I THINK I AM GOING TO LIKELY LOOK AT NOVEMBER 17 AS BRINGING THE COMMISSIONS RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL, BUT I WILL CONFIRM THAT WITH THE COMMISSION AS SOON AS I HAVE CONFIRMED THAT WITH THE CITY MANAGERS OFFICE.

>> GREAT.

ANY QUESTIONS, CLARIFICATIONS? ALL RIGHT.

WE CAN GO TO 8.3 PUT OUT TALK ABOUT THIS IN A WHILE, BUT MILES AVENUE BRIDGE

[8.3 Miles Avenue Bridge Art Project Update: An update on the resumption of this planned art fabrication and installation project.]

UPDATE.

>> YES.

AS HE COMMISSION IS WELL AWARE, THE MILES AVENUE BRIDGE ART PROJECT HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE THREE LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY.

AND WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 14 PIECES ON THE BRIDGE PRETTY TOTAL OF 42 BY LESTER'S AT THE BRIDGE AND 14 OF THOSE ARE OCCUPIED BY ARTWORK.

AS I'M SURE ALL OF YOU ARE AWARE BUT FOR THE BENEFIT OF REFRESHING THE COMMISSIONS MEMORY AND THE PUBLIC, THIS PROJECT WAS A STUDENT AND YOUTH ORIENTED PROJECT WHERE STUDENT AND YOUTH WERE ENCOURAGED TO SUBMIT DESIGNS AND THEN THOSE WERE PROVIDED TO FABRICATORS WHO IN ESSENCE TURNED THEM INTO METAL THAT WAS ULTIMATELY INSTALLED ON THE BRIDGE PRITIKIN.

WE HAVE 14 CURRENTLY INSTALLED AND WE NEED TO FILL OUT THE REMAINING BY LESTER'S.

AND SO AFTER GOING BACK THROUGH THE PROGRAM, THERE APPEAR TO BE TOO MAIN FABRICATORS THE CITY USED IN THE PAST.

TO MOVE THIS PROJECT ALONG, AND WE DO HAVE ALL THE DESIGNS THAT CAME TO THE COMMISSION PREVIOUSLY IN 2019 I WENT TO CITY COUNCIL AT THE END OF 2019.

SO I HAVE MADE CONTACT WITH ONE OF THE TWO FABRICATORS AND I'M STILL WAITING TO HEAR BACK FROM THE OTHER ONE TO SEE IF THEY ARE INTERESTED IN GIVING US BIDS FOR THE DESIGN AND THE FABRICATION OF THESE ART PIECES AND THEN SIMILAR TO LAST TIME ONCE WE HAVE SECURED THE BIDS, IF THEY ARE WITHIN THE CITY MANAGER

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SIGNING AUTHORITY WE CAN DO IT AT THE IT HAS TO GO TO COUNSEL FOR WORK.

BECAUSE THIS IS SPECIALIZED, WE ARE ABLE TO IN ESSENCE DO A MORE FOCUSED BIDDING EFFORT.

BUT THE GOAL IS TO GET THIS PROJECT DONE.

IT HAS BEEN HANGING ALONG FOR A LONG TIME.

RATING BACK TO THE FILE I SAW A LOT OF NAMES.

THE VICE CHAIR AND COMMISSIONER NEW BRIBERY AND WE KNOW THAT SOME OF THE SOME OF THE USE OF PARTICIPATED IN THIS ARE GETTING OLDER AND WOULD BE NICE TO SEE THEIR ART UP THERE.

THE GOAL IS TO GET THE PROJECT DONE AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN AND GET IT OUT THERE BUT I WILL KEEP YOU UPDATED AS THE PROJECT MOVES FORWARD AND SEE IF WE CAN HOPEFULLY GET THIS DONE IN SHORT ORDER AND WE CAN CROSS THE LINE IN TERMS OF THE INCOMPLETE AND APOLOGIES TO THE YOUTH AND THE PARENTS AND COMMUNITY ON THIS ONE, BUT WE HAVE A WAY TO HOPEFULLY GET THIS FAST TRACKED AND TO THE FINISH LINE.

>>THOMAS BUCK: THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE THAT WAS AN ISSUE THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP IN THE PAST AND I WOULD NOT WANT TO DO ANYTHING TO PUT IN ANY KIND OF DELAY, BUT IT WAS ABOUT THE CONDITION OF THE BRIDGE MEETING MAINTENANCE BEFORE IT WAS INSTALLED.

>> I ACTUALLY WENT OUT AND WALKED THE BRIDGE AND ACTUALLY CONFIRMED ALL THE BY LESTER'S TO MAKE SURE.

THERE ARE PARTS OF THE BRIDGE, THERE ARE PARTS OF THE BRIDGE THAT PROBABLY NEEDS SOME POWER WASHING.

BUT ALL IN ALL GIVEN THE EXPOSURE THE BRIDGE EXPERIENCES, I DON'T THINK IT IS IN THAT BAD OF SHAPE.

BUT I WILL TALK TO CITY ENGINEER AND PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR IN TERMS OF THEIR PLANS FOR BRIDGE MAINTENANCE AND SHOW THOSE WITH THE COMMISSION.

I DON'T GET DETRACTS FROM THE ARTWORK.

THEY ARE ALL CLEAN AND NEAT, THERE ARE NO CRACKS, NOTHING THAT WOULD IMPAIR THE INSTALLATION OF THE FABRICATED METAL.

SO I THINK FOR THE ART ITSELF AND WITH ANY PUBLIC ASSET IT IS MORE ABOUT MAINTENANCE.

BUT I WILL DEFINITELY FOLLOW UP ON THAT.

>> MY CONCERN REALLY WAS MORE IF THE BRIDGE DID NEED MAINTENANCE AND THEY MAINTAIN THE BRIDGE AND IT DAMAGED THE ART AFTER IT HAD BEEN INSTALLED.

>> NO, IN FACT, ONE OF THE THINGS OBVIOUSLY IF THERE IS ANY MAINTENANCE WORK DONE THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO PROTECT THOSE ART PIECES, RIGHT? I'M MAKING THIS UP, IF THEY WERE POWER WASHING THE BRIDGE THAT WOULD HAVE TO PROTECT THE ART PIECES TO MINIMIZE DAMAGE.

WHAT I'VE SEEN IN OTHER PLACES IS THEY WOULD COVER IT WITH A PROTECTIVE COVERING DURING THE CLEANING EFFORT.

>>THOMAS BUCK: JUST WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK.

>> WHEN THE LAST DISCUSSIONS WE HAD ABOUT THAT WAS MORE OR LESS DIFFERENT COLORS OF PAINT THEY WERE WORRIED ABOUT.

WERE ONLY PREPARED TO GO WITH ONE COLOR AS OPPOSED TO IT'S A DIFFERENT COLOR.

PLUS, THE RAIL MATCHES THE POSTERS.

I KNOW THAT WAS ONE OF THE DISCUSSIONS WAS PAINT OVER VANDALISM.

>> AS FAR AS MOVING FORWARD WITH THE FABRICATORS, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE USING A TEMPLATE FOR THE ANCHOR BOLTS INSTALLED.

AND WE HAD AN ISSUE WITH ONE HOUR FABRICATORS IN THE PAST LOCATING THE INCREASE WHEREVER THEY DIDN'T LINE UP AND IT BECOMES AN ISSUE WHEN IT COMES TO INSTALL WITH THE EPOXY UNDER THE BRIDGE.

IF YOU ARE TALKING 2 TO OUR LONG-STANDING FABRICATORS THEY WORKED IN THE PAST.

>> THEY HAVE.

AND WORKED WITH A PUBLIC WORKS TEAM TO PUT TOGETHER THE DESIGN SPECS AND THEY REVIEWED ALL OF THEM.

INCLUDING THE REQUIREMENT FOR A TEMPLATE AND WITH BOTH PLACEMENT.

SO THEY DID SIGN UP ON THEM.

AND THEY WILL BE PART OF THE EVALUATION OF WHEN WE GET THE TEMPLATES FOR THE ARTIST WILL PROVIDE A TEMPLATE SO THEY WILL €" EXCUSE ME, THE FABRICATORS WILL PROVIDE THE TEMPLATES SO WE WILL REVIEW THEM BEFORE ANY FINALIZATION.

IT'S A GOOD POINT AND HOPEFULLY OUR PUBLIC WORKS TEAM WILL BE DOING INSTALLATIONS WE WILL GET IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME.

>>THOMAS BUCK: THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR THOUGHTS ON MILES AVENUE BRIDGE? ALL RIGHT.

ITEM 8.4 WHICH IS THE PUBLIC ARTS PROGRAM.

[8.4 Public Arts Program: An update on Program workload and support resources.]

>> AS THE COMMISSION IS AWARE, WE CURRENTLY DO NOT HAVE A PUBLIC ARTS MANAGEMENT ANALYST FOR THE PREVIOUS OCCUPANT OF THAT HAS MOVED ON TO READ AND SO

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RIGHT NOW I'M WORKING WITH THE CITY MANAGER TO EVALUATE NEXT STEPS.

IN THE SHORT TERM BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS BRING BACK AN INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS WORKED WITH THE COMMISSION IN THE PAST AND WORK IN PUBLIC ARTS READ SOME OF YOU KNOW HER, JENNIFER HENNING.

IN THE GOAL OF JENNIFER'S ASSISTANCE, WHICH WILL BE ON A PART-TIME CONTRACT BASIS, IS TO KEEP THESE PROJECTS MOVING FORWARD.

UNFORTUNATELY WITH MY OTHER OBLIGATIONS I HAVE I CAN'T ALWAYS BE WORKING ON THESE EVERY DAY.

HER FOCUS WOULD BE TOO MAKE SURE THINGS GET DONE AND GET DONE IN A TIMELY FASHION.

I AM WORKING WITH JENNIFER RIGHT NOW TO FINALIZE A CONTRACT AND IT WOULD BE AN AS NEEDED CONTRACT FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW JENNIFER, SHE HAS PREVIOUSLY WORKED WITH THE CITY, SHE IS AN ARTIST AS WELL AND SHE HAS DONE SIMILAR WORK FOR THE CITY OF PALM SPRINGS.

THIS WOULD HELP MAKE SURE THAT NONE OF THESE PROJECTS GET SLOWED DOWN UNNECESSARILY AND THAT THE WORK ETHICS OF THE COMMISSION OR REALIZED IN A TIMELY FASHION.

SO ONCE JENNIFER IS ON BOARD OFFICIALLY, OBVIOUSLY WE WILL HAVE HER PARTICIPATE IN NEEDED SO THAT THE COMMISSION €" BUT REALLY TO KIND OF BE THE PERSON WHO FOCUSES ON GETTING THE WORK DONE.

AND I GUESS THE OTHER POINT ABOUT THE PROGRAM IS A MAJOR GOAL RIGHT NOW OBVIOUSLY IS TO GET SOME OF THESE PROJECTS DONE THAT HAVE BEEN LINGERING.

THAT HAS BEEN AN INTEREST OF THE COMMISSION.

AND THEN MOVING FORWARD, YOU DID MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN.

THAT IS AN ITEM THAT NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL.

AND SO THAT WOULD BE LOOKING TO BRING BACK TO COUNSEL IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

I DON'T HAVE AN EXACT DATE YET BUT I WILL ADVISE THE COMMISSION OF THAT AS WELL.

AND IF THERE IS ANY OTHER ITEMS THAT COME UP THAT THE COMMISSION IS INTERESTED IN, WE WILL CERTAINLY LOOK AT THAT RELATIVE TO YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN AS WELL AS THE RESOURCE ALLOCATION OF THE STAFF REPORT TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THOSE WHO READ A QUICK SUMMARY OF WHERE WE ARE AT.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>> SO THE STRATEGIC PLAN FROM WHEN WE HAD BROUGHT IT UP WE DID HAVE CONSENSUS AND SENDING THAT TO COUNSEL ALONG WITH THE WORK PLAN.

IS THAT STILL ATTACHED AS IS WHAT THE CHANGES WOULD BE MADE UNLESS THE COMMISSION WANTS TO BRING IT BACK TO THE PLAN IS TO TAKE IT FORWARD AS WE RECOMMENDED TO COUNSEL.

IF THE COMMISSION WANTS TO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THE COMMISSION WANTED THE CHAIRPERSON TO BE AT THE MEETING TO SPEAK TO IT AS AN EXAMPLE, WE COULD COORDINATE THAT THE COMMISSION THOUGHT WAS BENEFICIAL TO HEAR FROM THE CHAIR OR VICE CHAIR OR WHOEVER YOU THOUGHT WAS APPROPRIATE TO SPEAK TO THAT.

>>THOMAS BUCK: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON 8.4? COMMENTS?

>> I WANT TO SAY ONE OTHER THING.

I DID FORGET TO MENTION I WANT TO THANK THE VICE CHAIR.

THE COUNCIL DID PROCLAIM OCTOBER NATIONAL ARTS AND HUMANITY MONTH.

AND AS PART OF THE PROGRAM WE DO TRY TO MAKE SURE WE RECOGNIZE THIS THIS MONTH BECAUSE OF RESOURCING.

WE WON'T BE ABLE TO DO AS MUCH AS WE WOULD LIKE TO, BUT THE GOAL WOULD BE TOO SORT OF HAVE SOME RECOGNITION AND WE WOULD WORK WITH THE COMMISSION TO DETERMINE WHAT THAT WOULD BE AND THE LEVEL OF INVOLVEMENT.

THE PROCLAMATION IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL SO IT WAS PROCLAIMED AND THANK YOU TO THE VICE CHAIR FOR RECEIVING IT AND IN THE FUTURE WILL PLAN ACCORDINGLY SO THAT THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO PLAN SOME SORT OF ACTIVITY TO MAKE THE PUBLIC AWARE AND TO CELEBRATE THIS MONTH IN THE FUTURE.

>>THOMAS BUCK: THAT IS GREAT.

THANK YOU.

AND ALSO, KEVIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I KNOW YOU HAVE A LOT OF PLATES AND IS REALLY NICE TO SEE PROGRESS ON SO MANY FRONTS AND IS NICE TO SEE THE WHEELS IN MOTION SO IT APPRECIATE ALL THE EXTRA.

AND SAVE A LOT OF PLATES.

SO THANK YOU.

THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM NUMBER NINE WHICH ARE COMMISSIONER ITEMS IF ANYONE

[9. COMMISSIONER ITEMS]

HAS ANYTHING THEY WOULD LIKE TO SHARE OR BRING FORWARD?

>> YOU MAY KNOW THE COACHELLA VALLEY ARTS CENTER, BECAUSE OF THE COVID PANDEMIC STARTED AN EXTERIOR EXHIBITION PROGRAM ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

IT'S AN ON GOING PROGRAM CALLED ARTISTS COMMENT.

AND WHAT I DO IS FIND ARTISTS AND OFFER THEM COMMIT RIGHT NOW I AM OFFERING THEM A FIVE FOOT HIGH BY 10 FOOT WIDE PIECE OF VINYL AND THEY CAN DO TO IT WHATEVER THEY WANT.

AND THEN WE WILL INSTALL IT ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

SO I SHOULD BE HAVING SIX NEW PIECES INSTALLED NEXT WEEK.

I HAVE A PAINTER, I HAVE A DIGITAL PERSON, TWO PAINTERS IN THE INDIO ROTARY CLUB

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EVERY YEAR GIVES THE THIRD GRADE STUDENTS IN THE SCHOOLS AND INDIO DICTIONARIES.

MY SCHOOL I WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR WAS THEODORE ROOSEVELT SCHOOL.

IS NICELY GIVEN DICTIONARIES, BUT IF I WAS 1/3 GRADER I WOULD SAY WHAT IS THIS? WHY DO I WANT A DICTIONARY? MY CHALLENGE TO THE PRINCIPAL IS 1/3 GRADERS FORGET THE DICTIONARY.

I GAVE THEM A BANNER AND A TON OF GOOD MARKERS IN THOSE CHILDREN WHO ARE USING THE DICTIONARIES CAN USE THE FIRST LETTER OF THEIR FIRST NAME OR THE FIRST LETTER OF THEIR LAST NAME AND GO TO THAT SECTION OF THE DICTIONARY AND FIND A WORD THAT THEY LIKE TO READ A NEW WORD, AN OLD WORD, WHETHER IT WAS A WORD THE WAY THEY LIKE THE WAY IT LOOKS, SOUNDED OR THE MEANING OF THE WORD.

AND ON THE BANNER THEY WOULD PUT THE WORD, THEIR NAME AND THEN THEY CAN BE CREATIVE AROUND IT.

TO THEODORE ROOSEVELT SCHOOL AGREED TO DO THAT.

THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE BANNERS AND THE EXHIBITION.

HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THEM INSTALLED BY NEXT WEEK.

BE ON THE LOOKOUT.

BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE THERE 24/7.

>>THOMAS BUCK: IS THERE GOING TO BE MORE BANNERS OR IS THAT THE TOTAL RUN?

>> THEY WILL BE THERE THROUGH NOVEMBER AND THEN IN DECEMBER WE HAVE ONE PERSON TAKING THE ENTIRE WALL AND HE IS A PHOTOGRAPHER.

AND THE REASON I'M GIVING HIM THE ENTIRE WALL WITH BANNERS, HE USES THE CAMERA AS PART OF HIS THERAPY FOR HIS BIPOLAR DISORDER.

AND AFTER THAT I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

BUT THIS WILL BE AN ONGOING PROJECT.

>>THOMAS BUCK: THAT IS REALLY COOL.

ANYTHING ELSE?

>> THIS WEEKEND OCTOBER 15 AND 16TH IS COACHELLA VALLEY PRIDE.

ON THE 15TH THERE WILL BE A VIRTUAL FILM FESTIVAL AND ON THE 16TH FROM 1:00 TO 5:00 THERE WILL BE A CARAVAN AND A PICNIC.

SO IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN JOINING, ANYBODY IS WELCOME.

YOU CAN REGISTER AND ECB PRIDE ON THEIR INSTAGRAM OR FACEBOOK PAGE.

AND IT IS FREE.

>>THOMAS BUCK: THAT IS THE BEST PRICE.

AND THE OTHER COMMISSIONER ITEMS TO BRING UP TONIGHT? COMMISSIONER CRUZ-ZENDEJAS , ARE YOU GOOD?

>> ACTUALLY, I DID WANT TO MENTION ONE THING.

SO THERE IS A €" MYSELF AND ANOTHER ARTIST IN THE COMMUNITY HAVE OPENED AND ARTISTIC HEALING CENTER.

IS A HOLISTIC APPROACH TO MERGE ART AND MEDITATION, BREATH WORK.

WE ARE DOING DIFFERENT WORKSHOPS FOR THE COMMUNITY.

SOME ARE GOING TO BE FREE, SOME THAT ARE GOING TO BE A FEE.

BUT THE IDEA WAS TO COMBINE BOTH A HOLISTIC APPROACH TO MEDITATION AND ART TOGETHER.

IT'S NOT ART THERAPY, IT'S DIFFERENT.

IT IS MORE OF A FREE-FLOWING TYPE OF THING.

SO RIGHT NOW WE ARE OFFERING FOR MANY WOMEN AND HOPEFULLY IN THE FUTURE WE WILL DO MORE YOUTHS PROJECTS.

THAT IS SOMETHING NEW HERE IN INDIA.

IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH WHEREVER BLOOM IS, WE ARE IN THE SAME AREA ON THE SECOND FLOOR.

SO JUST KEEP A LOOKOUT FOR UPCOMING EVENTS.

THEY WILL BE COMING OUT SOON.

>>THOMAS BUCK: GREAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THAT IS REALLY GREAT.

IF THERE IS NOTHING ELSE, THE NEXT ITEM IS ADJOURNMENT SO WE WOULD NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

>> I WILL MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING AT 6:34.

>>THOMAS BUCK: SO LONG AS IT IS 6:34 I SECOND.

>> CHAIRPERSON BUCK.

>> YES.

>> VICE CHAIRPERSON SCHINSKY.

>> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER NEUMEYER.

>> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER BECERRA.

>> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER CRUZ-ZENDEJAS.

>> YES.

>> MOTION CARRIES.

>> THEN OUR MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU EVERYBODY.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.