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>> A CALL TO ORDER THIS MEETING OF THE INDIO PUBLIC ARTS AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION ON WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 9, 2021 THAT 5:30 P.M.
LET'S DO CALL TO ORDER AND WILL CALL.
>> VICE CHAIRPERSON BILL SCHINSKY?
>> COMMISSIONER CECELIA CRUZ-ZENDEJAS?
>> COMMISSIONER VENESSA BECERRA?
>> NEXT IS THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE COMMISSIONER E.
NEUMEYER WOULD YOU LEAD US IN THIS ONE?
>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
>> YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA?
[4. MINUTES]
>> ITEM NUMBER 4 ARE THE MINUTES FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS MAY 11 AND JULY 13.
HAS EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK OVER THE MEETING MINUTES AND IF SO DO WE HAVE ANY CORRECTIONS OR IS THERE A MOTION?
>> MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
>> CHAIRPERSON THOMAS BUCK? VICE CHAIRPERSON BILL SCHINSKY? COMMISSIONER E.
NEUMEYER? COMMISSIONER VENESSA BECERRA? MOTION CARRIES 5-0.
>> ITEM NUMBER 5.1 ON THE AGENDA IS A PRESENTATION OF THE OVERVIEW TRAFFIC SIGNAL
[5. PRESENTATIONS]
BOX FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY.MY NAME IS ROXANNE DEAS I AM THE CITY ATTORNEY AND I REMEMBER BEING HERE A LONG TIME WITH MANY OF YOU SOME OF YOU ARE NEW.
IT'S NICE TO BE HERE IN PERSON.
TONIGHT I WOULD LIKE TO GO OVER THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL BOX AGREEMENT, THE AGREEMENT THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKET AND HOPEFULLY YOU HAVE A COPY OF IT WITH YOU AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO, IT IS A VERY SIMPLE TWO-PAGE AGREEMENT.
I THINK IT MIGHT BE BEST IF I GO THROUGH THE HEADINGS AND CERTAINLY AT ANY POINT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FEEL FREE SO WE CAN HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.
I DO THINK THAT THEIR HUSBANDS SOME QUESTIONS WITH RESPECT TO SOME OF THE PROVISIONS TO THE AGREEMENT SPECIFICALLY WITH THE RIGHTS THAT ARE GRANTED TO THE CITY AND THE LICENSE ON PAGE 2 ON THE TOP OF PAGE 2 AND WITH RESPECT TO THAT PARTICULAR PROVISION THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCONNECT BETWEEN MY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE FORMER PUBLIC ARTS ANALYST AND HOW THAT INFORMATION WAS CONVEYED TO ALL OF YOU.
KEVIN ASKED ME TO BE HERE SO I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND PROVIDE YOU MY SUMMARY AND WHAT THE LANGUAGE MEANS IN THE AGREEMENT.
I THINK THE FIRST THING I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE CLEAR IS THAT THIS AGREEMENT AND ANY PREVIOUS VERSIONS OF THE AGREEMENT, I WENT BACK TO LOOK, IN NO VERSION DID THE ARTIST NOT RETAIN THEIR COPYRIGHT.
THE ARTIST HAS ALWAYS RETAIN THE COPYRIGHT TO THEIR WORK.
THE CITY HAS NEVER CLAIMED OR REQUESTED THE COPYRIGHT OF THEIR ARTWORK FROM THE ARTIST IN THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL BOX AGREEMENT.
TURNING TO THE AGREEMENT THAT IS IN YOUR PACKET, THE FIRST HEADING IS CALLED TRAFFIC SIGNAL BOX ARTWORK.
>> WE DON'T HAVE OUR AGREEMENTS.
WE CAN EITHER PULL THEM UP OR MAYBE WE CAN GET COPIES OF THEM?
>> I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT.
>> ALL RUN THOSE COPIES RIGHT NOW.
>> HE WILL RUN THE COPIES AND WE CAN FOLLOW ALONG.
AT LEAST NOT YET IT WILL BE SOON WITH THE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE THAT I THINK THE COMMISSION IS MOST INTERESTED IN.
AND SO, THE FIRST HEADING IS TRAFFIC SIGNAL BOX ARTWORK.
UNDER THIS HEADING THE JUST OF THIS HEADING IS THAT THE ARTIST IS RECOGNIZING THAT EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE PROVIDING THE CITY WITH A DIGITAL COPY OF THEIR ARTWORK THE ARTIST UNDERSTANDS AND AUTHORIZES THE CITY TO DIGITALLY TRANSFER THE ARTWORK THAT THEY PROVIDE US IN A DIGITAL FORMAT AS A COMMERCIAL REP OVER THE UTILITY BOX AND IT IS JUST TO MAKE CLEAR THAT THE ARTIST UNDERSTANDS WHAT
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WE ARE DOING WHAT THEIR ARTWORK AND HOW IT WILL BE APPLIED TO THE BOX.SOME CITIES DO HAVE TRAFFIC SIGNAL BOX PROGRAMS WHERE THE ARTIST APPLIES PAINT ON THE SIGNAL BOX AND WE HAVE A WRAP REGARDLESS OF THE METHODOLOGY AND HOW THAT IS TRANSFERRED IS JUST TO MAKE CLEAR AS RESPECT TO HOW THE WORK IS PLACED ON THE BOX.
THE SECOND PARAGRAPH IS A PROVISION WITH RESPECT TO ORIGINAL WORK.
HERE THE ARTIST IS REPRESENTING THAT THEIR ARTWORK IS ORIGINAL AND IT IS SOLELY THERE PRODUCT OF THEIR CREATIVE EFFORTS AND IT DOESN'T INFRINGE ON ANY THIRD PARTY'S INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY RIGHTS.
WITHIN THAT PROVISION THERE IS LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT THE ARTIST DOES IDENTIFY AND HOLD HARMLESS THE CITY IF THERE WAS A THIRD PARTY LAWSUIT BROUGHT ABOUT AGAINST THE CITY IN THE USE OF THE ARTWORK AND PLACING IT ON THE TRAFFIC BOX.
IT IS A REPRESENTATION FOR THE ARTIST WITH RESPECT OF THE ORIGINALITY OF THEIR WORK.
THE NEXT SECTION AND I AM HAPPY TO, WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS A MORE PERTINENT SECTION MORE SUBSTANTIVE SECTION, THAT WAS QUICK, KEVIN.
I WAS LIKE STALLING FOR TIME AND APPARENTLY I DIDN'T NEED THAT MUCH TIME.
SO, I AM STILL ON THE FIRST PAGE.
THE INSTALLATION MAINTENANCE AND REMOVAL AND WAIVER OF RIGHTS.
SO, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF CONCEPTS IN THE SECTION REGARDING HOW THE ARTWORK IS INSTALLED IF THE WRAP IS REQUIRED FOR YOU TO MAINTAIN AND WHAT THE PROCESS IS FOR THE REMOVAL OF THE WRAP AND ARTWORK COULD FIRST OFF THE AGREEMENT DOES PROVIDE UPFRONT THAT THE ARTWORK MAY REMAIN ON THE TRAFFIC OX FOR NO MORE THAN FIVE YEARS.
WE UNDERSTAND FROM THE PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS WITH DEBORAH FIVE YEARS IS CONSIDERED THE USEFUL LIFE ON THESE TYPES OF WRAP'S.
I WOULD LIKE TO GO THROUGH THE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE IN THIS SECTION.
THE NEXT BIG SECTION IS THE INSTALLATION OF THE ARTWORK THAT NEXT SENTENCE THE ARTIST IS ACKNOWLEDGING AND AGREEING THAT THE ARTWORK WILL BE ALTERED TO THE SURFACE OF THE TRAFFIC BOX AND THE CITY CAN MAKE CHANGES TO THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL BOX IN THE FUTURE AND IF WE DO IT MIGHT REQUIRE REMOVAL OR MODIFICATION OF THE DIGITAL IMAGES OF THE ARTWORK.
THE NEXT BIG PICTURE LANGUAGE HERE IS THAT IT PROVIDES THE CITY OR RESERVES A RIGHT TO THE CITY TO ALTER OR REMOVE AT ANY TIME WITHOUT NOTICE TO THE ARTIST THE ARTWORK.
TO THAT AND THE ARTIST IS WAIVING THEIR RIGHTS UNDER TWO PROVISIONS ONE A FEDERAL LAW ONE A CALIFORNIA LAW YOU PROBABLY KNOW ABOUT THIS IT IS THE VISUAL ARTISTS ACT AND THE CALIFORNIA ART PRESERVATION ACT.
I WILL BRIEFLY GO BACK TO THAT AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.
THE LAST THING, THE LAST PERTINENT PROVISION IN THIS SENTENCE AN AGREEMENT OR THIS PROVISION, THE AGREEMENT PROVIDES THE CITY LEGALLY ASSUME THE MAINTENANCE OF THE ARTWORK.
IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE CITY WILL NOT MAINTAIN IT.
IF THERE IS GRAFFITI THAT IS PLACED ON THE BOX, CERTAINLY I BELIEVE THAT THEY WERE COATED WITH AN ANTI-GRAFFITI COATING AND WE WILL GO OUT AND TAKE CARE OF IT BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY REQUIRE TO MAINTAIN IT.
TURNING OVER TO THE VISUAL ARTISTS RIGHTS ACT AND THE CALIFORNIA ART PRESERVATION ACT, I WANTED TO EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE JUST FOR YOUR BENEFIT BUT IN CASE PEOPLE DO NOT UNDERSTAND THESE MEANINGS.
BOTH ACTS ARE SIMILAR TO EACH OTHER AND ESSENTIALLY THEY GRANT ARTISTS WHO CREATE VISUAL WORKS OF ART THE RIGHT TO PREVENT THE DESTRUCTION OR ALTERATION OF THEIR WORK UNLESS THOSE RIGHTS ARE WAIVED.
BOTH VARA AND I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ARTIST IN THE ARTWORK.
THE ARTIST RETAINS ALL THE RIGHTS INTO THE COPYRIGHT ACT FOR THE DURATION OF THE LAW WHICH I BELIEVE IS DEATH +70 YEARS.
WHAT THE VISUAL RIGHTS ACT DOES IS IT GRANTS TO THE ARTIST WHAT WE REFER TO COMMONLY KNOW AS MORAL RIGHTS.
WHAT THIS CONCEPT MEANS IS THAT THE ARTIST CONTROLS HER WORK EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE SOLD THEIR WORK AND THEY HAVE NO CONTACT WITH THE CURRENT OWNER.
ONE OF THOSE MORAL RIGHTS IS THE RIGHTS TO INTEGRITY WHICH PROHIBITS THE DESTRUCTION OF ANY WORK WHICH IS A RECOGNIZED STATURE UNDER THE FEDERAL
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LAW OR RECOGNIZED QUALITY UNDER THE STATE LAW WITHOUT THE ARTIST 'S CONSENT OR NOTICE.HOWEVER, THE ARTIST CAN WAIVE THOSE RIGHTS.
THE WAIVER OF THOSE RIGHTS IS CUSTOMARY, IT IS THE NORM IN MANY MUNICIPAL AGREEMENTS WITH ARTISTS AND MORE OFTEN THAN NOT, THANK YOU.
MORE OFTEN THAN NOT A LOT OF THESE AGREEMENTS BETWEEN CITIES AND ARTISTS DO HAVE WAIVERS OF THOSE RIGHT.
THERE ARE SEVERAL REASONS FOR THAT.
FIRST, IT PROVIDES THE CITY FLEXIBILITY IN CASE WE NEED TO REMOVE THE ARTWORK FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS.
IT'S DAMAGE, A CHANGE OF USE, DEPENDING ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES IT ALLOWS US TO DO THAT WITHOUT NOTIFYING THE ARTIST.
MAYBE IT IS NOT FIVE YEARS MAYBE IT IS 10 YEARS DOWN THE LINE WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THE ARTIST IS OR WHERE THE ARTISTS HEIRS ARE.
IT ALSO PROVIDES AND PROTECTS THE CITY AGAINST ANY FUTURE ABILITY FOR THE RIGHT OF NOTICE.
THIS IS ESSENTIALLY THE ESSENCE OF IT.
THIRD, THE CITY ALTHOUGH WE BELIEVE IN THE IMPORTANCE THE ART BRINGS TO THE CITY I THINK WE WILL HEAR MORE ABOUT THIS LATER, ART IS A BIG ECONOMIC DRIVER FOR CITIES AND THE CITY IS NOT A MUSEUM.
IT'S NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF ART.
HAVING THE WAIVER HERE REALLY JUST RECOGNIZES THE PRACTICALITY OF WHAT CITIES DO.
USUALLY THESE PROGRAMS ARE RUN BY PLANNERS, THEY ARE RUN BY LAY STAFF WITH MAYBE SOME KNOWLEDGE BUT NOT ALWAYS.
OUR RECORD-KEEPING MAY NOT ALWAYS BE METICULOUS I THINK YOU SEE THAT WITH THE MURAL PROGRAM.
I KNOW DEBORAH SEARCHED HIGH AND LOW FOR DOCUMENT.
I SEARCHED HIGH AND LOW FOR DOCUMENTS AND THE PRACTICALITIES TO BE NIMBLE AND FLEXIBLE THAT'S WHAT THIS PROVISION DOES IS IT FORCES THESE.
THE WAIVER IS NOT BECAUSE THE CITY DOES NOT RESPECT THE ARTIST OR THE INTEGRITY OF THE WORK IT'S JUST THE PRACTICALITIES THAT GO ALONG WITH US RUNNING A PROGRAM SUCH AS THIS.
THE NEXT SECTION IS THE LICENSE PROVISION.
IT IS THE LICENSE AND AUTHORIZATION FOR THE CITY'S USE OF THE ARTWORK.
THIS IS THE SECTION THAT IS HAD THE MOST QUESTIONS ABOUT WITH RESPECT TO WHAT THE LANGUAGE MEANS.
THIS DOES NOT TAKE AWAY OR MOVE THE ARTISTS COPYRIGHT? WE ARE NOT PAYING FOR THE COPYRIGHT OF THEIR ARTWORK.
IN ORDER FOR A CITY OR ANYONE TO RESERVE THE ARTWORK IN THIS MANNER CERTAINLY WE ARE SEEKING TO SHOW THE WORK IN USE THE WORK HERE WHAT IS CUSTOMARY IN THE INDUSTRY IS A LICENSE AGREEMENT.
A LICENSE AGREEMENT ALLOWS AN ARTIST TO GRANT PERMISSION TO ANOTHER PARTY TO USE THE WORK WHILE THEY RETAIN COPY COPYRIGHT OWNERSHIP TO THE WORK.
IT CAN BE CASHED AS A LICENSE AGREEMENT, IT CAN BE EMBEDDED LIKE IT IS HERE IN THIS AGREEMENT AND AT THE END OF THE DAY THE CITY IS DECEIVING A LICENSE FOR THE ARTWORK IN THIS PARTICULAR MANNER.
IN OUR AGREEMENT THE ARTIST IS SIGNING TO THE CITY IN THE REVOCABLE LICENSE AGREEMENT IN THE ARTWORK ITSELF.
THE REASON WHY IT IS YOUR REVOCABLE EATING A CAN'T REVOKE THE ARTIST CAN'T CHANGE THEIR MIND IS BECAUSE WE DO NEED SOME CERTAINTY WITH ART.
IN TERMS OF MAKING SURE WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO KNOW THAT ONE DAY THE ARTIST WILL NOT CHANGE THEIR MIND AND TAKE AWAY THE LICENSE.
IT SAID THE AGREEMENT ITSELF OR THE EXHIBITION OF THE ART WORK ON THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL BOX IS FOR FIVE YEARS.
AND, ALSO IN THIS SECTION HERE IT SAYS BY THIS ASSIGNMENT THE ARTIST YOUR REVOCABLE HE GRANTS THE NONEXCLUSIVE RIGHT TO USE, REPRODUCE, COPY, EXHIBIT, PUBLISH OR DISTRIBUTE IN WHOLE OR IN PART ANY MEDIUM NOW OR LATER DEVELOPED PHOTOGRAPHS AND OTHER TWO-DIMENSIONAL ARTWORK.
I'M GOING TO STOP RIGHT THERE.
I'M GOING TO STOP RIGHT THERE.
THIS SENTENCE THE ARTIST IS PROVIDING A NONEXCLUSIVE RIGHT TO USE THE WORK FOR NONCOMMERCIAL PURPOSES AND THE LIMITATIONS COMES IN THE NEXT SENTENCE OR CONTINUATION OF THE NEXT SENTENCE.
THIS IS INFORMATIONAL, EDUCATIONAL, PROMOTIONAL, PUBLIC RELATIONS, ADVERTISING, TOURISM AND NONCOMMERCIAL PURPOSES.
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AGAIN, IT IS LIMITING THE CITY'S USE OF THE ARTWORK.IN THIS SECTION WE ARE NOT GRANTING TO OURSELVES THE RIGHT TO USE THE ARTWORK OR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES.
WE CAN'T SELL IT WE CAN'T MERCHANDISE IT TO MAKE MONEY OR TO PROFIT FROM IT.
WHAT WE ARE DOING IS WE HAVE A GRANT OF A LICENSE FOR NONCOMMERCIAL PURPOSES AND THAT INCLUDES FOR EXAMPLE MAKING BROCHURES OF ALL THE ARTWORK FOXES.
WE CAN USE IT TO DISTRIBUTE IT AT VARIOUS EVENTS.
MAYBE WE HAVE ONE DAY A RETROSPECTIVE OF ART IN THE CITY.
WE WANT TO DO A SLIDESHOW OR PUT UP A TWO DIMENSIONAL WORK IN CITY HALL WITH RESPECTS TO HOW A TRAFFIC SIGNAL BOX ARTWORK HAS EVOLVED OR WHAT IT MEANS.
HAPS WE WANT TO USE IT IN OUR PUBLIC RELATIONS CAMPAIGN WHEN CARL AND HIS GROUP OR KEVIN IN THE CITY MANAGER GOES ON AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MEETING WITH DEVELOPERS TO SHOW WHAT A HEALTHY ART PROGRAM WE HAVE.
AGAIN, THE LANGUAGE ALLOWS OUR USE FOR SPECIFIC NONCOMMERCIAL PURPOSES WHERE WE ARE SHOWCASING THE WORK OF THE ARTIST.
THIS LANGUAGE IS CUSTOMARY IN CITY AGREEMENTS WITH ARTISTS AND AGAIN THE CITY IS NOT PROFITING FOR THE USE AND WE ARE PROMOTING ART BUT ALSO PROMOTING THE ARTISTS AS WELL.
ANOTHER THING TO POINT OUT IN THE LANGUAGE IS THE PROVISION AND THE LICENSE IS NONEXCLUSIVE.
IT MEANS THIS ARTIST CAN GRANT ANOTHER LICENSE TO ANOTHER CITY IF THEY SHOULD WANT TO WITH RESPECT TO THIS ARTWORK MAYBE NOT FOR A TRAFFIC SIGNAL BOX MAYBE IT IS A PAINTING OR SOME OTHER KIND OF MEDIUM.
LICENSE IN ESSENCE IS LIMITED IN SCOPE.
I DID HAVE A NUMBER OF EXCHANGES WITH DEBORAH IN THE PUBLIC ARTS ANALYSTS ON THIS ISSUE.
SHE PROVIDED US COMMENTS ON THE LICENSE, SHE PROVIDED ME A WHITE PAPER FROM AN ATTORNEY WHO WORKS IN ART AND I DID TAKE ALL OF HER COMMENTS CONSTRUCTIVELY.
I READ THE MATERIAL SHE PROVIDED TO ME.
I, WE HAD A VERY GOOD HEALTHY DISCUSSION, THOUGHT AND AT THE END OF THE DAY THIS AGREEMENT THAT I PROVIDED TO THE CITY WAS VERY MUCH IN LINE WITH THE ATTORNEY WAS SUGGESTING WITH RESPECTS TO THE COPYRIGHT ISSUES AND THE ART.
IF THERE WAS ANY, IF THERE WASN'T ENOUGH CLARITY IN OUR AGREEMENT I DID MAKE CHANGES TO IT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT WE WERE NOT SEEKING ANY COPYRIGHT PROTECTION.
I THINK INWARDONE VERSION I HAD TWO-DIMENSIONAL AND THREE-DIMENSIONAL ART.
THREE-DIMENSIONAL ART CAN BE A MAQUETTE.
THAT CAN BE USED FOR SALE OR FOR DERIVATIVE USES OF A FLAT PIECE OF ART.
SO I DELETED THE THREE-DIMENSIONAL REFERENCE.
HE DID WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THERE WASN'T ANY AMBIGUITY WITH RESPECT TO WHAT THAT SECTION PROVIDED AND I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY MY GOAL IS TO BALANCE THE CITY'S POSITION WITH THAT OF THE ARTIST RECOGNIZING THAT EVERY ARTWORK IS NOT NECESSARILY TREATED THE SAME.
IF WE WERE TO COMMISSION A PIECE OF ART THE CITY MAY WANT TO PURCHASE THE COPYRIGHT OF THAT ART AND THAT WOULD BE IN NEGOTIATION WITH THE ARTIST.
THIS TYPE OF AGREEMENT IS MUCH DIFFERENT.
SO THE LICENSE HERE IS APPROPRIATE TO THE FLEXIBILITY WITH THE WAIVER OF CERTAIN RIGHTS PROVIDES THE CITY THE FLEXIBILITY IT NEEDS TO HANDLE THIS PROGRAM IN THE RIGHT WAY.
I THINK THERE ARE SOME LESSONS LEARNED WITH RESPECT TO HOW WE HAVE HANDLED ARTWORK IN THE PAST.
AND, WHEN I WAS PUTTING THIS TOGETHER I TOOK THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AS WELL AS WE HAVE THE DOCUMENTATION SO WE ARE NOT PLACED IN POSITIONS IN RESPECT TO THE MURALS WHERE THERE IS NO DOCUMENTATION, WHO OWNS THE MURAL, WHAT RIGHTS WERE GIVEN, IF WE CAN EVEN ACCESS THE MURAL WITHOUT HIGHLIGHTING ANYONE'S RIGHT.
THE REMAINDER OF THE AGREEMENT HERE IS PUBLICITY AND IT GRANTS THE CITY THE USE OF THE ARTIST LIKE THIS WITH RESPECT TO THE ARTWORK AND ITS DISPLAY AND THE WAIVER OF CLAIMS AND LIABILITY OF THE CITY 'S PRE-STANDARD PEER THEY ARE WAIVING ANY PERSONAL INJURY CLAIMS REGARDING THE PARTICIPATION IN THE PROGRAM
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AND THE CITY'S LIABILITY TO THE ARTIST IS LIMITED TO THE HONORARIUM.I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I'M HERE TO ANSWER WHATEVER YOU WOULD LIKE AND THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME BE HERE.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING THE TIME AT THE END OF THE DAY AND HELP CLARIFY THIS THING THAT HAS BEEN A WORRY FOR US FOR SOME TIME.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ARTIST AGREEMENT?
>> I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BUT I AGREE THIS IS ANSWERED SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE AND CONCERNS I HAVE FROM THE PREVIOUS STAFF.
NO QUESTIONS, IT IS CLEAR TO ME.
ALL OF THE MISINFORMATION THAT FLIES AROUND HAS BEEN CLEARED UP TOTALLY.
>> THANK YOU AND PLEASE, ANYTIME, MY SON IS IN OUR SCHOOL AND HE IS AT MICHIGAN AND ANN ARBOR AND HE'S GOING TO THEIR STAMP STOOL OF ART AND DESIGN.
I KNOW, I HOPE HE'S NOT GOING TO BE A STARVING ARTIST BUT IT MAY BE THAT WAY.
I RESPECT ARTIST AND WHAT THEY DO.
I TRIED TO COLLECT ART FROM NEW ARTISTS.
I REALLY KNOW WHAT ALL OF YOU ARE TRYING TO ACHIEVE IN THE CITY AND AS KEVIN KNOWS HE AND I HAVE HAD GREAT DISCUSSIONS ABOUT ART AND WHAT IT DOES FOR OUR CITY AND EXCITING TO RING NEW ARTISTS AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN HAVE A NEW ROBUST PROGRAM AND I CERTAINLY KNOW THAT SOMETHING THAT IS YOUR GOAL AS WELL SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THAT HELPS US RING THINGS IN MOTION SO I APPRECIATE IT.
>> WE WILL MOVE ON TO SECTION 6 WHICH ARE SOME ACTION ITEMS AND WE WILL FLIP THESE LITTLE BIT WITH THE TIME OF THE GUESTS THAT ARE HERE.
[6.2. Recommendation to City Council for the Long-Term Lease of a portion of the Colossal Cacti Art Piece by Andrew Kovacs]
GOING TO DO ITEM 6.2 FIRST AND THEN JUMPED TO 6.1.ITEM 6.2 IS A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL WITH A LONG-TERM LEASE OF THE PORTION OF THE CACTI LEASE THROUGH ANDREW KOVACS.
WE HAVE GUESTS HERE AND WE CAN TAKE IT AWAY BETTER THAN I CAN EXPLAIN.
>> THANK YOU AND GOOD EVENING CHAIR, VICE CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
MY NAME IS K L AMERA AND I AM THE NEW ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ANALYSTS.
I HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR YOU ALL AND I HAVE ALSO PROVIDED A PACKET FOR YOU TO FOLLOW ALONG IF YOU WOULD LIKE.
THE KICKOFF ACTION 6.2, I WOULD FIRST LIKE TO THANK ARCHITECTURAL DESIGNER ANDREW KOVACS AND THE COACHELLA ARTS FESTIVAL CHAIR ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
WE ARE ASKING FOR RECOMMENDATION FOR COUNSEL FOR A LONG-TERM LEASE AGREEMENT FOR A PORTION OF THE COLOSSAL ART CACTI DESIGN CREATED BY ANDREW KOVACS.
MR. KOVACS IS AN LA-BASED DESIGNER AND EDUCATOR.
HIS WORK HAS BEEN WIDELY PUBLISHED AND GLOBALLY KNOWN.
HIS RECENT DESIGN HAS BEEN PERMANENTLY INSTALLED IN AN INTERACTIVE SPACE LOCATED IN ATHENS, GEORGIA CALLED RAINBOW FOREST.
SINCE AUGUST, 2021, THIS ART PIECE HAS BEEN GLOBALLY RECOGNIZED MORE THAN 1600 I'M SORRY, 1106 YOU NINE TIMES.
THE STAFF BELIEVES THAT BY RINGING ONE OF KOVACS'S WORLDWIDE KNOWN ART PIECES TO DOWNTOWN INDIO CAN ACCOMPLISH THE GOALS OF THE INDIO PLAN OF 2040 WHICH STATE IT ENHANCES THE QUALITY OF LIFE, REESTABLISHES THE CITIES DEXTRAN ORIENTED DOWNTOWN AS A COMMUNITY ANCHOR, ENHANCE RICH ARTS AND CULTURAL PROGRAMS, REMOTE AND ENCOURAGE ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT AND RING ATTRACTIONS IN INDIO TO RESIDENTS, POTENTIAL VISITORS AND IS IN HIS PROSPECTS.
AS YOU SEE HERE, THE IMAGE ON THE LEFT REPRESENTS TWO PARCEL SPACES ENDING IN 47 AND 48.
WHERE STAFF RECOMMENDS TO SECURE THREE OF THE METAL CACTI SCULPTURES.
THE THREE METAL CACTI ART PIECES WILL BE STRATEGICALLY PLACED ON MILES AVENUE.
THE IMAGE YOU SEE HAS BEEN PROVIDED BY ANDREW REPRESENTING THE PLACEMENT OF EACH CACTI PEACE.
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OVER THE NEXT SEVEN SLIDES YOU WILL SEE ANDREWS CACTI SCULPTURES REPRESENTED AND FEATURED ON BOTH INSTAGRAM AND FACEBOOK.PLEASE TAKE A NOTE OF THE NUMBERS I'M ABOUT TO PRESENT.
IN THIS SLIDE YOU WILL SEE IN 2019 THIS IMAGE WAS FEATURED ON INSTAGRAM AND FACEBOOK FOR THOUSAND TIMES AND IN 2019 THIS IMAGE WAS FEATURED ON INSTAGRAM 97,095 TIMES.
IN 2019 THIS IMAGE WAS FEATURED ON HIM BILLY INSTAGRAM AND FACEBOOK THAT HE WENT TO TIMES.
IN 2019 THIS IMAGE WAS FEATURED ON CERAMIC 22,000 TIMES.
IN 2019 THIS VIDEO WAS FEATURED ON INSTAGRAM 107,000 TIMES.
IN 2020 THIS IMAGE WAS FEATURED ON INSTAGRAM 33,000 TIMES AND THIS YEAR THIS IMAGE WAS FEATURED ON INSTAGRAM AND FACEBOOK 384,000 TIMES.
THESE ARE SIGNIFICANT NUMBERS.
LET ME BREAK DOWN THE DEMOGRAPHICS FOR THE CITY OF INDIO AND THE COACHELLA VALLEY.
YOU WILL SEE HERE THAT THE CITY OF INDIO HAS A POPULATION OF 91,000 PEOPLE.
WE HAVE AN ANNUAL GROWTH OF 1.3 PERCENT AND OUR MEDIAN AGE IS 35.
AGAIN, YOU WILL SEE OUR PROJECTED POPULATION IN 2025 IS 93,000.
IN THE COACHELLA VALLEY ALONE THERE'S 480,000 PEOPLE.
AS WE BREAK DOWN THIS ART PIECE FOR THE COACHELLA ARTS AND MUSIC ANALYTICS WILL SEE THE SIGNIFICANT NUMBERS SHOWN HERE.
COACHELLA IS THE MOST FAMOUS FESTIVAL IN THE WORLD.
THEY HAVE 1.9 MILLION FOLLOWERS AND OF THOSE FOLLOWERS ON INSTAGRAM ANDREWS ART PIECES HAVE BEEN SEEN OVER 709,000 TIMES FOR THUS GOING TO DRIVE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA AS I CONTINUE AND THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT CONTINUES TO ACTIVATE AND ENLIVEN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
IN THE PATELLA VALLEY, YOU WILL SEE THE BREAK DOWN FOR THE VISITORS THAT TO THE HOTEL A FESTIVAL AS WELL.
TEAM INDIO AND THE DEPARTMENT FOCUSED ON SEVERAL GOALS AND OF THOSE GOALS WE PROVIDE A HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE, CREATE A LIVELY SELECTION OF NIGHTLIFE, AND ATTAINMENT AND RECREATION ITEMS AND EXPAND CITY FESTIVALS.
THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AND ANDREW AND PAUL ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS?
>> NOT INCLUDED IN THIS REPORT WAS LAST PAGE WHICH WAS THE BUDGET LINE ITEM QUESTION.
I AM ASKING WHAT WAS THE PURPOSE FOR THIS PRESENTATION? IS THIS AND ASK FOR MONEY OR APPROVAL OF A LOCATION?
>> I WANT TO BRING FORWARD THE ARTIST, LET YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT OUR PROJECT IS ABOUT TRAUMA OUR DOWNTOWN ENLIGHTENMENT AND ACTIVATION AS YOU SEE IN THE PACKET, THE COST BREAKDOWN OF THE LOCATION AND WHERE WE WOULD PUT THE SCULPTURES.
WE'VE ALSO INCLUDED ANDREW'S VISION OF HOW HE WOULD PUT THEM ON THAT PARCEL AND THE POINT OF THE PRESENTATION WAS TO SHOW YOU HOW MANY TIMES AND HOW WE PEOPLE HAVE ACTUALLY VIEWED HIS ARTWORK AND HOW THIS CAN COME TO LIFE AND HELP ACTIVATE OUR DOWNTOWN AREA WHICH IS PART OF THE BIGGEST PROJECT IN THE CITY OF INDIO.
>> CHAIR, THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM DECOMMISSIONED TO TAKE ACTION TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL WHATEVER ACTION THE COMMISSION MAY AGREE ON IN TERMS OF THE POTENTIAL UTILIZATION OF THE SITE AND THE ART PIECE.
IT IS AGENDA TIES AS AN ACTION ITEM FOR YOUR ADVICE OR RECOMMENDATION TO CITY
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COUNCIL.>> ARE WE TALKING ABOUT A RECOMMENDATION TO HAVE THE PEACE IN DOWNTOWN INDIO OR ARE WE TALKING ABOUT SPENDING PUBLIC ART FUNDS FOR THIS?
>> NOT INCLUDED IN THE REPORT WHICH WAS THE ONLY PACKET WAS THE SHEET EXPLAINING THE BREAKDOWN OF A $25,000 BUDGET WHICH IS NOT INCLUDED IN THIS PRESENTATION TONIGHT.
>> WE ARE HIT WITH THIS AS AN ACTION ITEM AND IT'S RIGHT OUT OF THE MARK SCOTT PLAYBOOK.
THROAT AT THEM AFTER THE COUNCIL HUSBAND MADE AWARE OF IT AND MAKE THE COMMISSION RUBBERSTAMP IT.
IS THAT WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE?
>> NUMBER THIS WAS AGAIN PROPOSED AS AN ACTION ITEM.
I CAME HERE TO PRESENT BASICALLY WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT DOING IN THE DOWNTOWN SPACE.
NO COUNCILMEMBER HAS SEEN THIS ACTION ITEM AND WE ARE PRESENTING IT TO YOU FOR A MOTION FROM COUNSEL.
>> THE NUMBER OF 25,000 JUST CAME UP.
>> IT INCLUDES THE INSTALLATION OF THE ART PIECE THE LOGISTICS AND ALSO TO REFURBISH THE ART PIECE AND THEN AFTER THAT THERE WILL BE A $5000 MAINTENANCE FEE FOR THE THREE ART PIECES.
THAT IS ALL BROKEN DOWN IN THE ACTION ITEM PACKET.
WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU IS A PRESENTATION THAT I PUT FORWARD BUT BECAUSE IT
IS AN ACTION ITEM YOU SHOULD HAVE - >> WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.
>> THIS LAST PAGE IS NOT IN THIS PACKAGE WHICH WE JUST RECEIVED TONIGHT.
>> JUST TO BE CLEAR COMMISSION THE PRESENTATION IN FRONT OF YOU IS A SUMMARY PRESENTATION OF WHAT IS IN YOUR PACKET WHICH HAS THE DETAILED INFORMATION.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE KAYLA TO WALK THROUGH THE FINANCIAL ASPECTS WILL MORE TIME SHE CERTAINLY CAN TO ASSIST YOU IN THAT BUT THE GOAL, AGAIN THIS EVENING IS TO PRESENT THIS TO YOUR CONSIDERATION AND YOU AS AN ADVISORY BODY CAN TAKE THIS TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND YOU CAN TAKE IT IF YOU WANT TO THAT IS UP TO YOU.
>> THE PAPERWORK THAT WE WERE HANDED TONIGHT DOES NOT INCLUDE A PART OF THE PRESENTATION WITH THE BUDGET ITEM OF 25,000 YOU HAVE TO GO ONLINE TO SEE THAT INFORMATION.
>> NO ONE UP HERE HAS SEEN THIS UNLESS THEY CHECKED IT ON THE LINK.
>> TO HELP THE COMMISSION I WOULD BE HAPPY TO RUN OFF THE PAGE OF THE STAFF REPORT AND HARD COPY THAT HAS THE BUDGETARY INFORMATION IF THAT WOULD BE OF ASSISTANCE TO YOU.
>> WHILE WE WAIT ON THAT WAS THEIR TIMELINE THAT YOU HAVE FOR THIS THAT WOULD BE RECOMMENDED?
>> WE ARE LOOKING AT HAVING THIS INSTALLED BEFORE JANUARY 2022.
WE ARE WORKING ON THE DOWNTOWN RENOVATION STARTING IN JANUARY 2022.
IT WOULD BE PART OF THAT PROJECT TO ACTIVATE THE DOWNTOWN.
>> TELL US A LITTLE BOAT BIT MORE ABOUT THE SECOND SATURDAY OF THE MONTH.
>> THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING WE PRESENTED OUR RFQ TO GET ENTERTAINMENT, VENDORS TO START ACTIVATING THE DOWNTOWN SPACE WHICH WE WOULD START CREATING AND CREATE A PERMANENT STAGE AND WE WOULD TRY TO BASICALLY GET ALL OF THE LOCAL ARTISTS AND HELP ACTIVATE THE DOWNTOWN.
WHETHER IT IS FOOD TRUCKS OR LOCAL BANDS, WE WILL BE SETTING OUT THIS RFQ STARTING I BELIEVE IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS MONTH AND WE WILL PROCEED FORWARD TO RECEIVE ALL THE RFQ'S AND GO FROM THERE.
WE HOPE THIS BECOMES A LARGER EVENT.
WE WILL START SMALL AS WE BEGIN AND WE ARE GOING TO HOPEFULLY WORK WITH EVERYBODY IN THE CITY WHOEVER WANTS TO HELP ACTIVATE THE DOWNTOWN TO BRING HIS NEST IN, WE ARE WORKING ON A FACADE PROGRAM THROUGHOUT BRING THESE BUILDINGS BACK TO LIFE.
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WE HAVE SEVERAL BUSINESSES THAT ARE LOOKING INTO MOVING INTO THE DOWNTOWN SPACE.>> I'M GLAD YOU ARE OPTIMISTIC.
I'VE BEEN IN THE DOWNTOWN SINCE 2008.
ASK MY FAMILY'S BEEN IN THE DOWNTOWN FOR 100 YEARS.
>> AM EXCITED TO BE ON BOARD AND EXCITED TO BE VERY OPTIMISTIC I HAVE BEEN IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INDUSTRY SINCE 2014.
THE EXPERIENCE THAT I HAVE HAD AND THE ASPIRATION I HAVE TWO BRING DOWNTOWN AREAS ALIVE I HOPE THAT I CAN BRING THAT FORWARD AND SEE THE LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL FOR YOU.
LET ME GO AHEAD AND WRITE DOWN AGAIN APOLOGIZE FOR NOT HAVING THIS PACKET IN FRONT OF YOU THIS EVENING.
THE PAINT, PAINT LABOR, BASES, CONCRETE FORMS, THE PUMPS, THE TRUCK, AGAIN ALL THE LOGISTICS THE INSTALLATION, LABOR, EPOXY INSPECTOR AND ENGINEERING CONTINGENCY AND THEN THERE IS THE ARTIST FEE TOTAL WOULD BE $25,180.
THE ACTUAL TIME OF THE LEASE AGREEMENT HAS NOT BEEN NEGOTIATED YET SO THIS COULD GO FROM 10 YEARS ON OR WE CAN NEGOTIATE THAT WITH THE COUNCIL.
I DO WANT TO EXPRESS TO YOU THAT WE ALWAYS WANT TO BRING IN NEW ARTISTS AND WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO BRING THE ATTRACTION DOWNTOWN.
THIS OPPORTUNITY CAME ABOUT WITH ANDREW AND WE THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY CONSIDERING THE PRESENTATION PUT TOGETHER FOR YOU THIS EVENING HOW MAY PEOPLE HAVE SEEN THIS ART PIECE AND HOW MUCH THAT CAN DRIVE OUR DOWNTOWN.
IF YOU REALLY WANT TO SEE THE DOWNTOWN DRIVE AS A MILLENNIAL I REALLY SEE THAT WE ARE DRIVEN TO ART PIECES THAT ARE GLOBALLY KNOWN AND MR. KOVACS HAS THAT WHERE IT IS LOCAL AND HE ALSO HAS AN ART PIECE THAT CAN BE DOWNTOWN AND HELP THE BUSINESSES AND HELP ENLIVEN THE CITY AS A WHOLE.
>>.[LAUGHTER] >> I AM SENSING INDIO HAS ALWAYS BEEN IN THE SITUATION WHERE THERE IS A HISTORY AND I HOPE FOR THE FUTURE AND OFTEN THE TWO DON'T JIVE THAT WELL.
I TEND TO DEFINE MYSELF AS A RESIDENT OF INDIO LEANING FROM ONE SIDE TO ANOTHER AND THERE'S PRACTICAL SIDE TO THIS.
ULTIMATELY WHAT I'M SEEING HERE WITH THE BUDGET BREAKDOWN IS, HAVE A COUPLE OTHER QUESTIONS.
DO WE KNOW WHAT THE ANNUAL MAINTENANCE COST WOULD BE?
>> WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THAT IN THE INSTALLATION IT INCLUDES CONCRETE.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT INCLUDES LIGHTING.
WE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT FOR A LONG TIME AND THAT IS A PRETTY INVOLVED SITUATION.
DO YOU HAVE ANY INSIGHTS ON THE POTENTIAL TURNAROUND BETWEEN JANUARY AND NOW IS A VERY FAST? GIVE INSIGHTS OF WHAT THE INSTALLATION WOULD REQUIRE?
>> I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH PAUL IN REGARDS TO THIS BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME FESTIVALS COMING UP.
WE DID MENTION HOW WE ARE WORKING VERY DILIGENTLY TO MAKE THIS DOWNTOWN ACTIVATION ENLIGHTENMENT COME TO LIFE WE DO HAVE A VERY HARD DATE OR MONTH TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN BY DECEMBER OF THIS YEAR.
>> THE LAST THING I WILL SAY MY PERSONAL COMMENTS, JUST BECAUSE I WANT TO USE, I FEEL LIKE A LOT OF TIMES WE FEEL LIKE WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING OR CONTINUE TO DO NOTHING AND I PREFER DOING SOMETHING OVER NOTHING BECAUSE NOTHING HAS GOTTEN US NOWHERE AND ULTIMATELY THE COST, $25,000 A FEW MONTHS AGO WE WERE DEBATING FUNDING IN OUR ORGANIZATION OF A SIMILAR AMOUNT THAT HAD NO GUARANTEE RETURN ON THE INVESTMENT.
MY THOUGHTS ARE THAT IF THIS IS $25,000 IS A PRETTY REASONABLE AMOUNT TO SPEND FOR SOMETHING THAT WE HOPEFULLY WHEN SAUDIS INSTALLATIONS IN 2019, THEY ARE IMPRESSIVE, AWESOME, HUGE, BEAUTIFUL.
IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE THEM THERE FOR THE UPCOMING FESTIVAL SEASON WHEN PEOPLE ARE VISITING AND EXCITING TO SEE WITH THE POLO FIELDS.
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I'M 100 PERCENT IN FAVOR FOR IT AND THAT'S WHAT I WILL SAY.>> REALLY QUICK I WANT TO MENTION AS WELL THAT THIS ART PIECE WILL BE VERY SIMILAR TO ANOTHER AS WE WOULD EXPECT TO HAVE LIGHTING AND WHATNOT.
SO VISITORS CAN COME DURING THE EVENING AND TAKE PICTURES.
AGAIN BECAUSE THIS IS A GLOBALLY KNOWN ART IT CAN REALLY HELP DRIVE THE DOWNTOWN IS NOT JUST AN ART PIECE THAT NO ONE IN THE CITY, IS SOMETHING THAT SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITIES AND THE WORLD KNOWS ABOUT.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOUR DOWNTOWN ACTIVATE, LET US PUT SOMETHING THERE THAT WILL HELP BUSINESSES AND HELP BRING THIS FORWARD.
>> IF I MAY, NUMBER 1, YOU TALKED ABOUT LIGHTING AND THAT SORT OF THING AND IT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO COME LATER FROM A DIFFERENT AGENCY OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WILL BE DRAWN FROM THE PUBLIC ARE FUNDS TO RUN ELECTRICAL INPUT LIGHTING ON THESE PIECES BECAUSE IT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET ITEMS.
>> WITH THE LABOR, WE SAW HOW MUCH IT WENT UP PREVIOUSLY.
>> I DON'T KNOW IF I'M ALLOWED TO HAPPEN?
>> I DON'T KNOW IF I SAW IN THE BREAKDOWN BUT I'M WONDERING IF WE ARE ASKING THE COMMISSION TO COVER.
>> IF YOU WANT A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK THEY NEED TO BE RECOGNIZED.
BEFORE WE HAVE INDIVIDUAL SPEAK AT THE MICROPHONE, WHEN THE CHAIR IS READY WE CAN INVITE PAUL UP.
>> MR. TARA SILVA QUESTION SILLY COUPLE OF QUESTIONS TO BRING UP.
I BELIEVE GOING BACK TO MY TIME HERE ON THE COMMISSION BRINGING A PIECE LIKE THIS TO DOWNTOWN CAN BE A GREAT THING BUT I SEE ONE AGENCY USING PUBLIC ART AS A MEANS TO DECORATE THE CITY AND NOT NECESSARILY DRIVE COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT.
YOU DID TALK A LOT ABOUT CLICKS AND LIKES ONLINE.
HAVE NOT SEEN THAT WORK TO DRIVE PEOPLE INTO A SPACE ESPECIALLY WHEN THOSE VERY BUSINESSES LEFT OPEN AND BUSINESSES ARE CLOSING AND WE HAVE A LOT OF EMPTY LOTS.
I HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE DOWNTOWN.
MY BUSINESS WAS HERE FOR MANY YEARS IS THIS BIG SMOLDERING PLACE ACROSS THE STREET.
WHEN I HEAR ABOUT PLUNKING DOWN SCULPTURES OR BRINGING THINGS IN I GET A LITTLE BIT MIFFED AND IRRITATED ABOUT IT BECAUSE WE DONE ALL SORTS OF THINGS IN THE CITY IN THE LAST 40 YEARS BUT WE'VE ONLY BUILT ONE NEW BUILDING.
WE ARE TEARING DOWN BUILDINGS TODAY HERE BUILDINGS CATCH FIRE, WE TEAR THEM DOWN.
I SUPPORT HAVING THE ART COMMUNITY BUT WHAT I'M AFRAID OF IS THAT WE WERE BROUGHT A PRESENTATION, WE WERE JUST TOLD ABOUT THIS BASICALLY FRIDAY ON THE AGENDA AND IS THE FIRST TIME WEIRDEST THE LEASING IT AND DISCUSSING IT.
ONE ACTION ITEM TO RECOMMEND BE COUNSEL TO MOVE IN DECEMBER? WE USUALLY MOVE AT A GLACIAL PACE.
YOU SAY RATHER DO SOMETHING THAN NOTHING AND I'M NOT PARTICULARLY AGAINST THE PROJECT I'M JUST NOT A FAN AT THE WAY THIS COMES OUT.
THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THIS HAPPENED WITH A PUBLIC ART PRESENTATION.
NO DISRESPECT TO THE ARTIST OR YOU PAUL WITH GOLDEN BOYS THE WAY THAT THESE THINGS ARE NOT TO US TO ASK FOR MONEY AND APPROVAL ARE BIT WEAKER THAN SAYING HEY, WERE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS NEXT MONTH IT'S WERE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS IN FOUR DAYS.
BUT CERTAINLY I AM NEW WITH THE CITY BEGINNING AUGUST 30 AND I DID GO THROUGH THE RIGHT PATHS TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE RIGHT PAPERWORK.
IF THERE'S ANOTHER PROTOCOL THAT YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO GO THROUGH I AM HAPPY TO DO SO FOR THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING.
GIVE YOU A QUICK INSIGHT IN REGARDS TO PUBLIC ARTS, I HAVE HAD EXPERIENCE TRAVELING AROUND THE WORLD IN PLACES SUCH AS SOUTH KOREA WHERE THERE IS ARTWORK, INCREDIBLE ARTWORK BY THE UNDERGROUND MALLS AND IN THEIR PARADISE CASINOS.
AND IN THAILAND AND THE PHILIPPINES.
IT DRIVES THE NEW GENERATION TO ART.
SO, WITH THE PRESENTATION THAT I HAD TODAY WAS TO RECOGNIZE THAT THERE ARE FOLLOWERS, THERE'S A HUGE FOLLOWING BASE AND THAT WILL HELP BRING OUR DOWNTOWN
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ALIVE ARTWORK IS A GREAT THING.TO PERMANENTLY PUT SOMETHING THAT IS GLOBALLY KNOWN AS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY OF INDIO.
>> CAN I ADD THATSOMETHING? IN RELATING TO THE ART REPORT THERE WAS MORE INTENTION AND PROCESS WITH IT WHERE WE WERE MORE INVOLVED AND THERE WAS A SENSE OF COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT WITH THAT PIECE AND THIS IS WHAT I'M MISSING IN THIS PROJECT IS WHAT IS THE INTENTION OF THE PIECE IN THIS SPACE BECAUSE WERE ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT HOW TO BRING IN THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.
AS IS A VERY VALUABLE PIECE OF PROPERTY.
IT'S A GREAT PLACE FOR COMMUNITY AND LOCAL ARTISTS AS WELL.
>> IF I MAY CALL MORGAN THE ECONOMIC ELEMENT MITI FOR THE CITY.
I APPRECIATE WHAT CHAIRPERSON THOMAS BUCK MENTIONED ABOUT DO SOMETHING OR DO NOTHING.
IT IS INTERESTING TO ME FOR YOU AS BOARD MEMBERS, ART COMMISSION MEMBERS TO NOT KNOW ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON IN THE CITY AND THE MUST BE A BIG MISTAKE ON OUR PART.
OUR DOWNTOWN IS ON THE PRECIPICE OF A RENAISSANCE.
THE DOWNTOWN PACIFIC PLANE HAS BEEN REVITALIZED AND THERE'S A LOT OF PROJECTS.
COLLEGE OF THE DESERT IS BUILDING A NEW CC 5000 SQUARE-FOOT DEVELOPMENT CENTER.
THOSE PLAN ARE IN THE STATE OFFICE AND THEY WILL START CONSTRUCTION AND OPEN IN 2023 IN JUNE 2023 YARD RIVER FIRST MIXED-USE PROJECT ON THE HARD CORNER OF BLISS AND OASIS.
IT IS A 70,000 SQUARE-FOOT GROUND-FLOOR RETAIL FOUR-STORY MARKET RATE APARTMENT PROJECT THAT DAVID SHUMAN IS DOING.
WE HAVE HALF A DOZEN VARIOUS AGREEMENTS AND UNDERSTANDINGS WITH VARIOUS RESTAURANT TOURS TO DO ACTIVATION OF CITY-OWNED PROPERTIES IN DOWNTOWN ALONG MILES AVENUE.
WE ARE BRINGING FORWARD TO THE COUNCIL OF ESSAD IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM TO INITIALLY CLEAN UP SOME OF OUR OWN BUILDINGS ALONG WITH SOME OF THE PRIVATELY OWNED PROPERTY ON MILES AVENUE.
THERE ARE PLANS TO CREATE AN OUTDOOR AMPHITHEATER AND OUTDOOR FAMILY ROOM AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF MILES AND SUMMER WHICH WOULD BE PART OF THE ACTIVATION ENLIVEN MEANT THAT KALE HAD MENTIONED IN HER PRESENTATION.
THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON AND COVID HAS PUT A WRINKLE IN THINGS AS YOU KNOW.
IT HAS PUT OFF A COUPLE OF THINGS.
WE HAVE A NEW CITY MANAGER BRIAN MCGOVERN MONTGOMERY WHO HAS BEEN SUPPORTIVE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY WHOSE ONLY BEEN HERE FOR SIX MONTHS.
WE BELIEVE THAT PLACING THIS ART PIECE FOR A NOMINAL AMOUNT OF MONEY IN THIS LOCATION ACROSS FROM THE AMPHITHEATER AND IN THE PAST WERE THE DESERT THEATER WORKS BRINGS 20,000 FOLKS JAMMED THE DOWNTOWN PRE-COVID NUMBERS WHICH WE SHOULD GET BACK TO IN THE PROCESS OF OPENING THIS WILL BE A NICE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION AND BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE DOWNTOWN SPECIFIC PLAN THAT HAS BEEN ADOPTED AND HELP CREATE SOMETHING DOWNTOWN.
I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LONG HISTORY THAT I'VE HEARD ABOUT FROM A VARIETY OF FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY.
BUSINESS OWNERS, LANDOWNERS, POLICYMAKERS.
THERE WERE PROMISES MADE AND THEY DIDN'T HAPPEN FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT REASONS, WE HAD A REAL ESTATE DEPRESSION, REDEVELOPMENT TAKEN AWAY THE STATE LEGISLATURE AND A LOT OF OTHER THINGS.
I DO BELIEVE THAT WE ARE AT THAT PLACE AND WHAT I ASK YOU AS AN ART COMMISSION IS TO GIVE US THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT AND BE SUPPORT AND SUPPORTIVE OF US AND HOW YOU WOULD LIKE THINGS IN THE FUTURE.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE A SIX-MONTH LAG TIME OR 12 MONTH LAG TIME, LEE'S LET US KNOW.
THIS CAME UP AS AN OPPORTUNITY.
WE HAVE THE REAL ESTATE AND WE BELIEVE IT WOULD BE A REALLY GREAT THING FOR DOWNTOWN.
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WE WANT TO CREATE SOME INSTAGRAM SELFIE OPPORTUNITY IN DOWNTOWN.WE ARE THE CITY OF FESTIVALS, THIS IS A PROMINENT ART PIECE THAT WAS PART OF OUR COACHELLA EVEN AND WE WOULD REALLY LIKE YOUR SUPPORT TO PUT THIS IN OUR DOWNTOWN.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
>> I HAVE TO SAY, CARL, LULAC OF COMMUNICATION IS DEVASTATING.
IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE, I RUN A 17,000 SQUARE-FOOT ART CENTER FEET AWAY AND IF I WOULD'VE KNOWN AT THE BEGINNING OF LAST WEEK I WOULD'VE BEEN YOUR GREATEST CHEERLEADER.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE DOWNTOWN FILLED WITH SOME WILD CONTEMPORARY WORK.
YOU KNOW, YOU HIT ME BETWEEN THE EYES WITH SOMETHING, WHAT IS THIS? THERE'S NO COMMUNICATION.
>> I'M GOING TO STEP IN FOR A POINT OF ORDER AND THE FRUSTRATIONS WE HAVE WITH THE TIMELINESS OF THINGS THAT ARE THINGS WE CAN ADDRESS SEPARATELY.
I DON'T THINK CARL WAS HERE FOR THAT.
WE CAN STICK TO ASSESSING THE SPECIFIC ISSUE HERE IS CARL MENTIONED DO WE WANT TO SUPPORT THIS?
>> PART OF THE ISSUE IS THE PROCESS WE ARE SUPPOSED TO GO THROUGH.
EVEN IF YOU HAD A HINT THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN LAST MONTH AND SAID FOLKS, THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE PIPELINE, WE DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN OR NOT BUT THIS IS WHAT IT IS WE WOULD'VE HAD A MONTH TO MULL IT OVER AND GET EXCITED ABOUT IT.
>> THE OPPORTUNITY CAME UP VERY QUICKLY.
I WOULD ASK AGAIN THAT YOU NOT HOLD THAT AGAINST US AND RECOMMEND THAT WE ROLL THIS FORWARD.
IT WOULD BE A GOOD THING DOWNTOWN.
>> IN TERMS OF COMMUNICATION, WILL, I AM ALWAYS AVAILABLE AND YOU AND I HAVE CHATTED OVER THE TIMES.
THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT GOES OUT.
SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEGOTIATE WITH PRIVATE BUSINESSES AND PROPERTY OWNERS ARE CONFIDENTIAL UNTIL SUCH TIME THAT THEY COME FORWARD.
ALL OF THE THINGS THAT I TALK ABOUT TODAY HAVE BEEN TALKED ABOUT AND PRESENTED AT VARIOUS EVENTS IN OUR CITY FOR A PERIOD OF TIME AND THEY BEEN TALKED ABOUT IN THE DOWNTOWN SPECIFIC PLAN.
I AM ALWAYS AVAILABLE 24/7 IF YOU EVER WANT TO CHITCHAT.
I AM A FAN OF THE ARTS AND I BELIEVE ART IS AN ECONOMIC DRIVER FOR THE COMMUNITY.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A LOT MORE ART DOWNTOWN.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A LOT MORE BUILDINGS BEING BUILT DOWNTOWN AND I WOULD LIKE TO GET HERE.
>> MAY HAVE A MOMENT OF INTERJECTION? IF YOU HAVE FRUSTRATION INDIVIDUALLY OR ON THE COMMISSION PLEASE ADVISE THAT TOWARDS ME.
IF YOU ARE DISSATISFIED ON HOW THINGS WERE DELIVERED THAT'S ON ME AND WE NEED TO HOLD THINGS ACCOUNTABLE.
WE DO HAVE A PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU PUTTING ASIDE YOUR FRUSTRATION AND YOU CAN DIRECT THAT AT ME, PLEASE, BECAUSE NEITHER CARLA OR KAYLA OR PAUL OR ANDREW IN ANY WAY THEY SIMPLY ROCK BOARD A PROPOSAL.
THINGS HAPPEN QUICKLY AND UNFORTUNATELY PERHAPS THE TIMELINE THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE WISHED WAS NOT PRESENT IN THE SITUATION THAT'S ON ME AS YOUR STAFF PERSON.
IF YOU'RE FRUSTRATED, BE FRUSTRATED WITH ME.
I WOULD ASK YOU IN ANY WAY THAT YOU AS A COMMISSION WOULD ACT PLEASE TAKE THE FRUSTRATION OUT OF YOUR CONSIDERATION PLEASE DIRECT THAT ME.
>> WILL BEING FRUSTRATED IS PART OF KEVIN'S JOB DESCRIPTION.
[LAUGHTER] WE HAVE BEEN IN THIS CRAZY TRANSITION PERIOD WITH NEW PEOPLE COMING AND GOING AND I DO WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT IN THE LAST TWO MONTHS KEVIN HAS BEEN WORKING HARD.
I KNOW I HAVE SEEN THINGS WORK AT A QUICKER PACE AND THINGS WON'T WORK ALL THE TIME BUT I CAN VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT AND I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT PRIOR TO ANY GRIEVANCES THAT GET SENT YOUR WAY.
DO I AGREE WITH THE SENTIMENT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY LET'S DISCUSS THE OPPORTUNITY AND TAKE HER PERSONAL FEELINGS AND SET THEM ASIDE.
WE HAVE PAUL HERE WHO IS HAPPY TO ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS AND I THINK WE HAD SOME QUESTIONS THAT WERE SPECIFICALLY HIS EXPERTISE.
NOW MIGHT BE A GOOD TIME IF PAUL, IT IF WE WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE PAUL TO COME UP AND SHARE A LITTLE BIT.
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SO, IF I MAY, FOR ONE SECOND IN EVERYONE'S DEFENSE THIS IS PROBABLY ALL MY FAULT AGAIN.
I MET KAYLA A COUPLE WEEKS AGO AT THE VERY IN WHEN WE WERE DOING AND INSTALL.
SHE GOT MY NUMBER AND SHE ASKED IF SHE COULD COME OVER AND SEE WHAT WE WERE DOING AND VERY QUICKLY SHE WAS INTERESTED IN OTHER POSSIBILITIES AND I LET HER KNOW WE HAD SOME OTHER STUFF IN THE SHOP AND SHE CAME OVER THE NEXT DAY TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON OVER THERE.
VERY SPECIFICALLY WE DESIGNED ANDREWS INSULATION THE FIRST TIME THE FOUR LARGEST PIECES WERE BUILT OUT OF WOOD AND THE THREE SMALLER PIECES WE VERY SPECIFICALLY BUILT THEM OUT OF STEEL SO THEY WILL LITERALLY LAST AS EJ CAN CONTEST 100 YEARS.
THEY HAVE BEEN SITTING THERE SINCE THE SHOW IN 2019 AND I SAID I HAVE THESE THINGS AND AFTER JUST FINISHING A WEEK OF DIGGING HOLES OVER ON DOCTOR CAREY ON A SAID THESE WILL BE EASY TO INSTALL AND I COULD LITERALLY DO THIS IN A DAY NO JOKE DEPENDING ON WHERE THEY GO.
ONCE WE GET SOME VERY SMALL CONCRETE SLABS IN THE GROUND THE ENGINEER CAN DO THE MATH ON, WE CAN LITERALLY MOVE THEM AND INSTALL THEM IN ONE DAY.
YOU HAVE ALL OF THE COSTS THERE IN THAT LITTLE BUDGET.
ICOM A PERSONALLY PUT IN A VERY GENEROUS $75 FEE FOR ANDREW BECAUSE HE DESERVES IT IF THOSE PIECES ARE GOING TO BE SITTING THERE.
IF YOU WANT TO DEBATE THAT NUMBER, YOU COULD AND YOU ARE FREE TO DO THAT.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY ON HOW THIS PIECE WOULD GO IN I WOULD BE GLAD TO ANSWER THEM IT'S VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
WE ARE GOING TO REPAINT THE PIECES AND MAKE THEM LOOK BRAND-NEW AND WE WILL TAKE THEM OVER THERE AND INSTALL THEM.
>> THEY ARE 14, 17 AND 21 FEET TALL AND THESE WERE THE THREE SMALLEST OF THE SEVEN WE DID.
>> WHAT COLORS HAVE YOU SPECIFIED?
>> THEY ARE ALL DIFFERENT COLORS AND WE WERE PLANNING ON REPAINTING THEM THE SAME COLORS.
>> WHAT KIND OF PAINT IS ON IT?
>> THE $5000 MAINTENANCE THING THE SAME SCENARIO.
YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT REQUIRE TOUCHUP PAINT HERE AND THERE BUT IN THE WORST CASE SOMEONE HITS THEM WITH THE CAR IT IS ALL OVER.
>> YOU HAVE THEM SHOWN, IT IS AT 80 STREET AND SOMETIMES PEOPLE MISS THE STOP SIGN HERE QUICK SOMETHING CATASTROPHIC COULD HAPPEN TO THEM BUT IT WOULD TAKE SOMETHING SERIOUS TO DAMAGE THEM.
>> A QUESTION FOR YOU ABOUT THE PHOTOGRAPHS WE ARE SEEING ABOUT THE INSULATION, THE STEP PODIUM BASE TO THESE THREE GET SAME SIMILAR BASE OR ARE THEY ON THE GROUND?
THAT WILL COVER THE BOLTS THAT WILL BE BOLTED TO THE CONCRETE.
>> WILL THERE BE ANY ACCESSIBILITY ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THAT?
>> IT IS ONLY A FOOT WIDE AROUND THE PIECE SO THERE'S REALLY NOTHING -*CUSTOM* IS NOT LIKE ANYTHING IN THE PHOTO?
>> THERE'S NOTHING FOR ANYTHING IN THE PHOTO.
>> EARLIER LIGHTING WAS MENTIONED WHO IS GOING TO PAY FOR THAT?
>> I LEFT IT OUT OF THE BUDGET BASED ON THE FACT THAT WE LEFT IT OUT OF THE OTHER BUDGET WITH THE ASSUMPTION THAT THE CITY WOULD DO THAT.
>> THE CITY OR THE COMMISSION?
>> THE COMMISSION HAS NO AUTHORITY SO IF THIS WAS CONSIDERED WE WOULD COME TO YOU TO ADVISE YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR PAUL? BUCKLEY'S ARE NOT CLIMB A BOWL IN ANY WAY?
>> YOU KNOW - >> I THINK ANYTHING CAN BE AS THE MAN IS SCREAMING FROM THE PALM TREE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD ANYTHING IS CLIMB MOBILE.
>> CAN I MAKE ONE MORE COMMENT? IN DEFENSE OF THE SCHEDULE.
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KIND OF THE REASON WHY WE WANTED TO GET IT DONE THIS CALENDAR YEAR WAS ME IN MY BRIEF CONVERSATION WITH KAYLA I SAID WERE GOING TO BE HOT AND HEAVY IN COACHELLA IN JANUARY AND IT WOULD BE GREAT BECAUSE IN MY MIND IT'S NOT A BIG JOB.AND SO, WHAT I SAID TO HER IS IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD GET IT DONE IN THIS CALENDAR YEAR AND GET IT OFF MY PLATE BEFORE THE SHOW.
IF IT TRICKLED AND WE WANTED IT DONE BEFORE PEOPLE COME TO COACHELLA WE COULD STILL DO IT IN JANUARY NO PROBLEM.
>> THIS IS MORE COMMUNITY BUY-IN.
WE CAN RECOMMEND THIS TONIGHT AND THEN IT GOES TO COUNSEL AND IF ANYONE WANTS TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEM TIME TO TALK ABOUT IT.
THAT'S THE ONLY REASON I GET UPSET ABOUT THE TIMEFRAME OF THESE THINGS.
>> IF WE NEED TO STRETCH OUT AND YOU DECIDED AMONGST YOURSELVES THAT YOU WANTED IT DONE BEFORE COACHELLA 2022 I WOULD BE GLAD TO WORK WITH EVERYBODY AND GIVE YOU GUYS SOME TIME TO FIGURE THAT OUT.
>> ON THE IMAGERY, ARE THEY DOCS OR SQUARES ARE THEY THREE-DIMENSIONAL?
>> ANDREW CAN SPEAK TO THAT THEY ARE ACTUALLY REFLECTORS.
>> WHEN THE SUN HITS IT DO THEY HIT THE LIGHT AND SPARKLE?
>> WE CAN INVITE THE ARTIST AT.
>> HELLO, I AM ANDREW THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.
WE CAN'T REALLY GRIP THEM TO CLIMB, PEOPLE HAVE TRIED AND THEY HAVE NOT SUCCEEDED.
COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WAS BROUGHT UP EARLIER, ART IN PUBLIC SPACES IS INTEGRAL TO CREATING A COMMUNITY.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE WAY THEY ARE PLANNED OUT THEY ARE SLIGHTLY ARRANGED IN A LOOSE ARC TO INVITE YOU IN OFF THE SIDEWALK AND THE TALLEST ONE IS FURTHEST AWAY FROM THE BUILDING.
>> FOR THE CACTI? I THINK WHEN YOU VISIT THE DESERT THE SYMBOL OF THE CACTI IS EVERYWHERE.
TO ME THE CACTI IS QUITE IN ARCHITECTONIC FORM AND MY BACKGROUND IS IN ARCHITECTURE.
I'VE BEEN DOING A LOT MORE, I'VE DONE STRAIGHT ARCHITECTURE PROJECTS BUT I ALSO HAVE THIS EXPERIMENTAL PRACTICE THAT HAS NOW MOVED INTO A WORLD OF PUBLIC ART.
I STARTED MAKING MODELS AND EXHIBITIONS AND MAKING ONE-TO-ONE INSTALLATIONS AND EXHIBITIONS OUTSIDE AND AS KAYLA SHOWED RAINBOW FOREST IT WAS A PROJECT I REALIZED THIS SUMMER, AUGUST 2021 AS A SELF BUILD IN ATHENS, GEORGIA.
THAT WILL BE AROUND FOR 25 YEARS.
>> IT WAS AN OPEN CALL A PUBLIC CALL IN ATHENS IS ALL ABOUT ATHENS AND I NEVER BEEN TO ATHENS, GEORGIA AND IT WAS AN OPEN CALL.
I APPLIED FOR IT AND THERE WERE 34 INJURIES, TWO OF WHICH WERE LOCAL IN GEORGIA AND IT WAS A LONG PROCESS.
THIS PAST SUMMER I WENT THERE AND WE REALIZED IT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WHILE WE HAVE ANDREW WITH US AT THE STAND? IF NOT, THANK YOU SO MUCH, IS MUCH APPRECIATED.
>> IF WE WERE TO SAY ELONGATE THIS PROCESS TO BRING IN MORE COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT, DO YOU SEE THAT AS A POSSIBILITY TO RING IN LOCAL ARTIST TO BE PART OF THIS INSTALLATION AS WELL? THIS IS A NEW PIECE.
THIS SPACE, WE DIDN'T KNOW THIS WAS AN OPTION TO BRING OUT IN SUCH A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME THE INSTALLATIONS IN THE COMMUNITIES.
>>.[INDISCERNABLE] >> TO BE A PART OF THE SPACE, YES.
>> IN ADDITION TO THIS PIECE OTHER THINGS.
AND IF WE DON'T HAVE THIS PIECE? YES.
>> IF I MAY, THIS WOULD BE ONE OF MANY PUBLIC ART PIECES FOR DOWNTOWN YOU AS AN ART COMMISSION HAVE THE ABILITY TO WORK WITH YOUR STAFF TO CALL FOR ARTISTS TO
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WORK OR CREATE PUBLIC ARTS, TO CREATE MOBILE PUBLIC ART AND TO SOLICIT PIECES SUCH AS THIS TO COME INTO OUR DOWNTOWN WITH THE SPACES.OUR DOWNTOWN SPECIFIC PLAN ACTUALLY TALKS ABOUT CREATING THOSE KINDS OF SPACES.
IT GIVES COMMUNITY BENEFIT FOR DENSITY ON VARIOUS PROJECTS TO DO THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
I WOULD SAY GOING FORWARD WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE MORE PUBLIC ART IN DOWNTOWN AND REALLY NICE QUALITY PIECES SUCH AS THIS THAT ARE ICONIC THAT PEOPLE WILL ACTUALLY TRAVEL TO AND WANT TO STAND IN FRONT OF AND PHOTOGRAPH AND BE PHOTOGRAPHED IN FRONT OF.
FOUR YEARS AGO WE DID THE INDIO INSTALLS AND WE HAD ABOUT FIVE OR SIX PIECES DOWNTOWN.
IT'S NOT LIKE WE HAVEN'T DONE THEM.
I'M JUST TRYING TO ANSWER THE QUESTION.
>> I WANT TO INTERJECT IN ORDER.
I THINK THIS CONVERSATION HAS POINTED OUT THAT THE COMMISSION SHOULD HAVE A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION ON IF WE GET THESE CONSIDERATIONS COMING FORWARD UNEXPECTEDLY AND PERHAPS ON A QUICKER TIMELINE I WOULD RECOMMEND THE COMMISSION HAVE A DISCUSSION IN THE NEAR FUTURE ON HOW TO HANDLE THESE.
FOR EXAMPLE, AS SOON AS WE HEAR ABOUT IT DO WE NEED A QUICK EMAIL SUMMARY TO THE COMMISSION SAYING WE WANT TO PUT ON A FUTURE AGENDA THAT KIND OF THING? I DO BELIEVE THAT THESE OPPORTUNITIES ARE GOING TO COME UP NOT JUST IN DOWNTOWN BUT IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY.
AS STAFF WE ARE WORKING HARD TO BRING FORWARD ACTIONS AND ACTIVITIES TO THE POINT WHERE THINGS MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN MOVING AS QUICKLY THAT US CITIZENS AND PEOPLE INVESTED IN THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
PERHAPS THERE CAN BE A SEPARATE DIALOGUE ON THE PROCESS ON WITH THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THE FUTURE SO WE HAVE IN PLACE WHAT WORKS BEST FOR THE COMMISSION AND WHATEVER DECISION YOU MAKE OR DON'T MAKE THINK IS IMPORTANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AS SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND AS YOUR STAFF PERSON THAT WE TALK ABOUT IT SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THE FRUSTRATIONS THAT YOU FELT EARLIER IN THE EVENING AND AGAIN PLEASE DIRECT THAT AT ME.
I WANT TO POINT THAT OUT BEFORE YOU DECIDE ANY POTENTIAL NEXT STEPS.
>> I APPRECIATE THAT AND I KNOW THAT PAUL AND HIS TEAM ARE AMAZING PROFESSIONALS.
LOGISTICALLY ONCE THE FESTIVAL START RAMPING UP, THINGS HAPPEN.
WE HAVE AVAILABILITY AND INFRASTRUCTURE, TOWING, WE JUST DID A BIG PROJECT AND THEY REHEARSED IT, THE SICKLY.
IT SEEMS LIKE A GOOD TIME TO STRIKE WHILE THE IRON IS HOT.
IS IT APPROPRIATE FOR A CHAIR TO MAKE A MOTION? I OBVIOUSLY DON'T KNOW IT.
>> YES, THE CHAIR CAN MAKE A MOTION.
TYPICALLY THE CHAIR LETS OTHER MEMBERS MAKE A MOTION BUT THE CHAIR IS ALLOWED.
>> IF THERE IS ANY MORE DISCUSSION I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET THAT FIRST.
>> I WANT TO SAY, THEY ARE GREAT FUN AND PEOPLE WILL LOVE THEM.
UNFORTUNATELY, PEOPLE LIVE FOR SELFIES.
IT IS ALMOST INSULTING THAT PEOPLE ARE SO DRIVEN BY THEIR OWN IMAGE AND TOTALLY TAKE AWAY FROM SERIOUS ARTISTS AND TRIED TO DO DECENT WORK.
THEY ARE FUN AND THEY WILL BE FUN TO HAVE AROUND.
I DON'T LIKE THE PROCESS, KEVIN.
I WOULD BE HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL WE ACCEPT THIS PROPOSAL.
>> I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT, TUPOU HEAD.
>> VICE CHAIRPERSON BILL SCHINSKY?
>> COMMISSIONER CECELIA CRUZ-ZENDEJAS?
>> COMMISSIONER VENESSA BECERRA? NO AND I WOULD LIKE THE RECORD TO SHOW THAT IT'S NOTHING AGAINST THE ARTIST AND THE ARTWORK ITSELF IT'S JUST THE PRESENTATION AND THE INTENTION BEHIND THE ARTWORK.
IT WAS MEANT AS AN INSTAGRAM MOMENT AND I'M REALLY HERE TO BRING THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER AND NOT ART AND NOT BRING INSTAGRAM AND WITH ART.
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>> THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR YOUR TIME AND I'M SURE THERE'S NOWHERE YOU WOULD RATHER BE AT 6:45 P.M.. INCORPORATED YOU VERY MUCH.
>> JUST ONE THING, TO REMIND THEM NOT SURE IF YOU CAN SEE THE RED LIGHTS ON BUT WHEN YOU ARE SPEAKING PLEASE HAVE YOUR MIKE ON PARTICULARLY WITH THE MASK IS HARDER TO PICK UP.
HAVE THEM ON BUT IT'S HARD TO SEE.
>> LET'S MOVE TO ITEM 6.1 WHICH IS THE RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL REGARDING
[6.1. Recommendation to City Council Regarding Mural Conservation Assessment and Cost Estimates]
THE NEURAL ASSESSMENT AND COST ESTIMATE.>> I'M GOING TO BE BRIEF AND THEN TURN IT OVER TO THE AD HOC COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF THE LAST COMMITTEE MEETING OF THE PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED NEURAL ASSESSMENT DONE BY PROFESSIONAL MURAL CONSERVATION FIRM THAT INFORMATION WAS PRESENTED IN THE PACKET AND DOES INCLUDE THE ASSESSMENT AS WELL AS COST ESTIMATES FOR THE POTENTIAL REMEDIATION COST FOR WHAT THE ART COULD BE.
AT THE LAST MEETING THEY FORMED AN AD HOC COMMITTEE WITH COMMISSIONER E.
NEUMEYER AND VICE CHAIRPERSON BILL SCHINSKY AND ASKED FOR A SURVEY.
WE THANK YOU TO VANESSA CASTILLE WHO HAS BECOME MY SURVEY MONKEY EXPERT.
SHE WAS HELPFUL IN GETTING THAT LAUNCHED.
WE HAVE HAD AS OF TODAY A TOTAL OF 71 RESPONSES AND I WANT TO TURN IT OVER TO THE AD HOC COMMITTEE TO LEAD YOU TO A DISCUSSION AND WERE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE AND PROVIDE SUPPORT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO IT, SHE DOES.
WE MET BRIEFLY AT THE LAST MEETING IN THE LAST WEEK IN THE MEANTIME I WILL READ WHAT I HAD PREPARED.
FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES THE AD HOC COMMITTEE BROKE OUT THE SEVEN OLDEST OF THE CITY'S MURALS WHICH WE COULD ARGUE CALLS FOR THE MOST ATTENTION TO REITERATE ATTENTION FOR THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE OR LISTENING ONLINE.
THESE SEVEN MURALS PREDATE THE EXISTENCE OF THE CITY'S PUBLIC ARTS COMMISSION.
THEY WERE COMMISSIONED AND PAID FOR BY PRIVATE BUSINESSES IN THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND PAINTED ANYWHERE FROM 18 TO 24 YEARS AGO OUTLIVING THEIR PRESCRIBED LONGEVITY.
OF THESE SEVEN MURALS TO ONE CITY PROPERTY, TOMORROW AND PRIVATE BUILDINGS HAVE AGREEMENTS IN PLACE FOR THE MURAL AND THREE DO NOT HAVE ANY AGREEMENT AT ALL TO THE BEST OF OUR RESEARCH, KEVIN AND PREVIOUS STAFF MEMBERS PEERED FOR CLARIFICATION'S SAKE THERE IS A MARIANNE'S BAKERY AND A HISTORY OF TRANSPORTATION MERLE.
THEY'RE BOTH ON THE SAME BUILDING BUT THEY COUNT AS TWO DIFFERENT MURALS.
THANKS TO MRS. CASTILLE WE RECEIVED 71 RESPONSES ONLINE AND TO HANDWRITTEN RESPONSES FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T USE THE INTERNET AND THE COMPUTER.
IF YOU HAD NOT HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE SURVEY IS STILL ONLINE GIVING YOU COPIES TO THE QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS.
THE PRESENCE OF MURALS OR A MURAL PROGRAM IN THE CITY, SOME OF THE COMMON REFLECTED SUPPORT THE EXISTING HISTORY MURALS AND A FEW DESIRED HISTORY MURALS OVER NON-HISTORICAL SUBJECT MATTER AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS COME UP IN THE PAST AS WE START NEW MURALS IN THE DECADE.
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A LARGE PORTION OF THE COMET REQUESTED NEW MURALS, MURALS THAT REFLECT OVER CITY AND CULTURE OF OUR COMMUNITY.EUROS FROM CONTEMPORARY AND MODERN REPRESENTATIONS OF INDIO AND TO QUOTE ABSTRACT MURALS AS OPPOSED TO REPRESENTATIONAL MURALS.
THEY SUGGESTED REVOLVING AND UPDATING MURALS ON A REGULAR BASIS AND SUPPORT FOR YOUNGER AND EMERGING ARTISTS.
AT THIS POINT WE WOULD ASK THE STAFF TO FOLLOW UP ON THE PROPOSED MURAL PROGRAM THAT WAS DRAFTED BY THE COMMISSION A FEW YEARS AGO.
IT IS AN IN MEETS THE DEMANDS, I THINK.
WE ARE PROVIDED WITH A RANGE OF COSTS TO PREPARE THESE SEVEN MURALS AND YOU CAN SEE IN THE SURVEY WE TALK ABOUT $61,000 AND THIS IS ON THE HIGH SIDE.
THE MAJORITY OF RESPONSES TO THE SURVEY WERE TO REPAIR ALL OF THEM.
WHEN RANKED EITHER WITH THE MOST RESPONSES TO REPAIR AND WEIGHTED AGAINST THE MOST RESPONSES TO REMOVE NEUTRAL OR INDIFFERENT VOTES WHICH WERE AN OPTION.
THE SURVEY RESPONSES WERE IN SUPPORT OF THE MURAL.
THAT WAS FOLLOWED BY THE HISTORY OF TRANSPORTATION MURAL AND THE AGRICULTURAL DATE MURAL AND WATER MURAL OR CLOSE TOGETHER AFTER THAT.
THE ONLINE SURVEY WAS THE ELECTRICITY MURAL ON THE CIVIC CENTER.
THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE PUT TOGETHER AS A COMMITTEE, WE WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU GUYS GIVEN THE CONDITION OF THE TRANSPORTATION MURAL THE MARIANNE BAKERY MURAL AND THE DATE NEURAL AND THE FACT THAT THERE'S NO AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE BUILDING OWNERS TO MAINTAIN THESE MURALS AND THE COST TO REPAIR THEM, WE WOULD NOT RECOMMEND MOVING FORWARD WITH THE REFURBISHING THOSE THREE.
WITH ELECTRICITY MURAL WE RECOMMEND REPAIRING THAT PIECE.
BECAUSE THE BUILDING OWNER WE MIGHT WANT TO LOOK INTO A NEW MURAL ONCE A BUILDING IS OUT OF LEE PREPARED.
THE HISTORY OF AGRICULTURE AND WATER MURALS HAS A LESS COSTLY REPAIR RANGE.
THERE IS AN EFFORT TO REPAIR THOSE ONE IS ON CITY PROPERTY AND THE OTHER ONE HAS AN AGREEMENT IN PLACE.
WE WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE COMMISSION RIGHT NOW TO DISCUSS WHETHER WE WANT TO DISCUSS REPAIRING THOSE RIGHT NOW OR MOVING IT TO A LATER DATE AND BRING IT INTO DISCUSSION WITH THE NEWER MURALS THAT CAME IN WITHIN THE LAST EIGHT YEARS.
THE FOURTH RECOMMENDATION OR THIRD, WE WOULD RECOMMEND EITHER OF THE RECOMMENDATION EFFORTS FOR THE VILLAGE MAY BE WITHOUT ANTI-GRAFFITI COATING.
WE WOULD DISCUSS THAT ON WHETHER IT WAS INCLUDED IN ONE OF THE COSTS OR NOT.
>> THAT'S ANOTHER THING IF WE TALKED ABOUT DOING THE ANTI-GRAFFITI CODING.
>> ONE OTHER THING THE DATA COMMISSION ASKED THE QUESTION OF ME AND I REACHED OUT TO THE MURAL CONSERVATORY ABOUT WHICH WAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO REPAINT AN EXISTING MURAL IN PLACE AND I DID GET A RESPONSE.
THERE ARE TWO WAYS TO LOOK AT IT.
YOU CAN TAKE THE EXISTING MURAL AND LINK SLATE IT AND RE-CREATE IT ON THE SAME SPACE AND SAME SURFACE OR DOING ALTERNATE SURFACE PERHAPS EVEN ATTACHING IT.
I REACHED OUT TO EVERGREEN AND THEY PROVIDED ME WITH A FEW SAMPLES.
THE SAN FRANCISCO BALMY STREET MURAL WAS PROVIDED.
THE CAVEAT WAS IT DEPENDS ON SURFACES, CONDITIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THE COMMITTEE IN OUR CONVERSATIONS, IF THERE WAS A STRONG DESIRE TO MAINTAIN CERTAIN MURALS TO RE-CREATE THEM FOR LOCK OF A BETTER WORD.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ANSWER WAS GIVEN ON THE RECORD TO KNOW THAT THAT'S AN OPTION ALTHOUGH CERTAINLY NOT MAYBE A PREFERRED OPTION.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND THANK YOU TO THE AD HOC COMMITTEE FOR DOING SO MUCH AND BRINGING SO MUCH TO US THAT SURVEY IS SUPER VALUABLE AND I TRUST YOUR PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE AND JUDGMENT.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR FURTHER DISCUSSION POINTS?
>> CAN YOU REPEAT THOSE MURALS THAT YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT AGAIN? WHICH ONES WERE THEY?
>> THE FIRST RECOMMENDATION WAS FOR NO ACTION FOR THE TRANSPORTATION ON MARY ON A GREAT AND THAT'S ON SOME GOLD BOULEVARD AND THE DATE MURAL WHICH IS ON MILES AT OASIS.
THE ONES WE TALKED ABOUT RINGING UP EITHER LATER, TALKING AND ABOUT TONIGHT IS A HISTORY OF AGRICULTURE.
AND THEN THE WATER ONE WHICH IS ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
>> DOES ANYONE ON THE COMMISSION OR KEVIN HAVE INSIGHT ON HOW TO PROCEED? I KNOW THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM SO WE CAN CHOOSE TO TAKEMOVE THAT SOME GET TREATMENT AND SOME DON'T OR WE CAN MOVE IT TO A LATER DATE PEERED WHAT DO YOU THINK HE MET.
YOU CAN FOLLOW THE PATH LAID OUT BY THE COMMISSIONER E.
FOR A HOLISTIC CONSIDERATION OF ALL THE MURALS.
YOU CAN LITERALLY GO BY EACH MURAL, TAKE THE ASSESSMENT AND GO THROUGH IT AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL ON EACH ONE OF THOSE IF YOU WOULD PROPOSE.
ONE CONSIDERATION, AS YOU THINK ABOUT THIS IS THAT IF THE MURALS THAT ARE JIGGLY ON PRIVATE PROPERTY REMAIN, THERE IS A PERCEPTION THAT THEY ARE CITY MURALS.
I THINK THE CITY STAFF SHOULD AT LEAST TRY TO MAKE AN EFFORT TO WORK WITH THE
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PROPERTY OWNERS TO PERHAPS THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING FOR YOU TO TALK ABOUT AS A COMMISSION, TRY TO GET THEIR PERMISSION TO REPAINT THEM.THE REALITY IS AS LONG AS THEY ARE THERE WE STILL RECEIVED COMPLAINTS EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER THEM.
IT IS A THORN IN OUR SIDE AND WE ARE BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR PUBLIC PROPERTY WHEN WE COULD TRY.
AS YOU DISCUSS THAT MIGHT BE AN OPTION FOR YOU TO CONSIDER AS WELL.
THAT MAY NOT GO THE PATH OR FOLLOW THE SESSION, IT MIGHT JUST BE AS SIMPLE AS CAN REPAINT IT OVER? AND BE DONE WITH IT? IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW ANYTHING ELSE TO HAPPEN TO IT.
IT'S SOMETHING FREE TO THINK ABOUT.
>> I AM PERSONALLY, WITH TRUSTING THE AD HOC COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION.
GIVE THE MOST EXTREMES WITH IT AND IT MADE THE MOST SENSE TO BREAK THINGS DOWN INTO CHUNKS.
>> I THINK IT WOULD BE A PRUDENT THING TO AT LEAST RECOMMEND SOME RESTORATION WORK ON THE VILLAGE PIECE AS EJ MENTIONED IT IS A VERY POPULAR PIECE.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO THE HISTORY OF THE CITY AND THE VALLEY.
AND THE LOWER RANGE OF RESTORATION WAS REALLY QUITE REASONABLE CONSIDERING WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO TO IT.
I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD FAITH THING TO DO IS TO START WORK ON THEM.
THAT WOULD GIVE US REALLY GOOD PR AND AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK AND SEE HOWEVER GREEN REALLY DOES WORK DOING THE TECH WORK THAT THEY ARE CAPABLE OF DOING.
>> COULD I SUGGEST TO HELP THE COMMISSION IF YOU GO TO YOUR SECOND ATTACHMENT THIS IS THE ATTACHMENT THAT HAS THE COST ESTIMATES INCLUDED FOR EACH OF THEM AND PERHAPS FOR THE RECORD SO IT'S CLEAR WE CAN TAKE THEM ONE BY ONE THERE ARE DOLLAR FIGURES IN THERE AND IF YOU AS A COMMISSION RECOMMEND A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY YOU THINK IS REASONABLE SPINNING THEY GIVE RANGES OF COST, OBVIOUSLY THERE IS A MINIMUM AND MAXIMUM SO PERHAPS THAT MIGHT HELP IN TERMS OF KEEPING THE RECORD AND VANESSA AND I HONEST IN TERMS OF DOCUMENTING IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, COMMISSIONERS THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.
THAT IS ON PAGE 33 OF 34 IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THAT ON THE PACKET AND PAGE 2 OF THE JULY 15 MEMO FROM EVERGREEN.
LET'S SEE IF WE CAN LOCATE OUR PAGES.
SO, DO THESE NEED TO BE ACTION ITEMS OR IS THIS JUST A DISCUSSION?
>> I WOULD RECOMMEND WALKING THROUGH THEM TO DISCUSS THEM ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS AND ONCE YOU HAVE REACHED CONSENSUS THEN WE CAN GO BACK ONE MORE TIME AND FORMALIZE THAT INTO A MOTION ACTION IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A MOTION ACTION SO THAT WAY FOR THE RECORD IS VERY CLEAR TO US.
THE COMMISSIONER DID A GREAT JOB BUT I COULD NOT KEEP UP TAKING NOTES.
>> WE CAN START WITH NUMBER 1 WHICH IS THE HISTORY OF TRANSPORTATION AND THE MAXIMUM COST OF TREATMENT IS $106-$1781.
THE COST OF MINIMUM TREATMENT IS THE SAME.
HOW DO WE FEEL ABOUT THAT ONE?
>> IF I MIGHT SAY YOU PROPOSED VIA SESSION AND PLEASE REMEMBER FOR PRIVATELY OWNED ONES THAT MEANS WE HAVE TO GET AN AGREEMENT AND GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
IF ULTIMATELY YOU WANT THE CITY TO PURSUE A PAINT OVER AGREEMENT IF THAT'S ALL WE CAN GET OUT OF THEM, IF YOU COULD SPECIFY THAT THAT HELPS DIRECT THE SPIRIT YOU SESSION AS YOU KNOW FROM GOING WITH THE A SESSION PROCESS WITH THE PIECE ON JEFFERSON IT'S A MUCH MORE INVOLVED EFFORT SO THAT WOULD HELP US UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR INTENT IS.
>> IN OTHER WORDS IF WE REQUEST A PAINT OVER IT'S A LOT EASIER?
>> YES IN IN SOME SENSE IT MIGHT BE ALL WERE GOING TO GET OUT OF FOLKS IS YES YOU CAN PAINT OVER THE BUILDING BUT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY OTHER RIGHTS OTHER THAN THROW PAINT UPON THE BUILDING.
>> ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT MY FAVORITE OPTION THERE IS AN OPTION TO LEAVE IT AS IS.
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IT IS IN SO-SO SHAPE BUT IT'S NOT OFFENSIVE TO LOOK AT.
>> MY FEELING ON THIS ONE IS IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO RE-CREATE IT OR IF WE TALKED ABOUT DOING ANOTHER SURFACE THAT WOULD BE AN OPTION.
IN MY OPINION WHEN WE DISCUSS IT IT IS NOT WE CAN'T SPEND THIS MUCH MONEY FIX THIS MURAL IF IT HAPPENS AGAIN.
IT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME THIS ONE'S BEEN PAINTED EITHER.
>> YOU COULD HAVE THE DELAY OF OPTIONS, HE COULD HAVE A HISTORY OF TRANSPORTATION AS IT IS TO USE THE COMMISSIONERS TERM.
PAINT OVER WHICH WOULD BE THE DIRECTION FOR US TO TRY TO PURSUE A PAINT OVER.
REPRODUCE WHICH WOULD BE THE OPTION WE DISCUSSED WERE WE LITERALLY GO THROUGH THE PROCESS TO SEE IF WE CAN RE-CREATE IT AS A NEW MURAL ON THE EXISTING SURFACE OR SOME SURFACE AND THE LAST ONE WOULD BE THE FORMAL DIA SESSION WHICH IS THE FORMAL PROCESS IT WOULD BE AN ACTUAL HEARING BEFORE YOU AND BEFORE THE COUNCIL.
>> DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON IT MAC I WOULD PERSONALLY LEAN TO THE PAINT OVER OPTION.
I THINK YOU CAN STILL HAVE A FEW YEARS LEFT OF VIABILITY, VISUALLY VIABILITY.
>> WE COULD LEAVE IT FOR A FEW YEARS.
>> NOT TO LABOR THE CONVERSATION, BUT AS IS MEANS 24 MONTHS, TWO SIX-MONTH, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
THAT HELPS US PLAN AHEAD FOR FUTURE ACTION.
>> 48: >> I THINK IT WILL LAST 48 MONTHS.
>> YOU WOULD ASK FOR IT TO BE?
>> I APOLOGIZE FOR PUSHING ON THESE BUT AS IS FOR 48 MONTHS AND THEN WHAT?
>> THIS MAY BE AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT COMMISSION AT THAT WHITE.
>> IS GOOD TO GET DIRECTION SO IF YOU WANT TO BRING IT BACK BEFORE THE FOUR YEARS IS UP FOR ANOTHER CONVERSATION IS ONE THAT WE WILL PUT ON THE TICKER, FOUR YEARS FROM NOW OR BEFORE FOUR YEARS IS UP WILL BRING IT BACK.
>> IS FINE WITH ME AND I THINK WE CAN INTO THE DISCUSSION WITH MARYANN'S BUILDING.
>> AGAIN, AT ANY TIME WE DON'T HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THIS BUILDING.
THE OWNER COULD DO SOMETHING IN THE MEANTIME.
>> YOU HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION FOR NUMBER 2?
>> FOR NUMBER 1 AND TO SAY AS IS AFTER FOUR YEARS WE REEVALUATE AND THEN THE PRICE RANGING BETWEEN $16,046 AND $68,000 ON THE HIGH END.
>> I WOULD RECOMMEND THE LOW-END OF RESTORATION COST ON THE VILLAGE.
>> WE SHOULD FIND OUT IF ARE GOING TO USE THE ANTI-GRAFFITI COATING.
WAS THAT PART OF THE RECOMMENDATION?
>> AT THE BOTTOM IT WAS A GRAFFITI REDUCTION WERE GOING TO TRY THAT.
WHEN THEY CLEANED IT THEY COULD STILL SEE REMNANTS OF GRAFFITI SO YOU I THINK THEY WOULD DO A GRAFFITI REDUCTION IN THE COMMISSION COULD RECOMMEND A GRAFFITI APPLICATION.
AS WE DISCUSSED WITH THE AD HOC COMMITTEE THERE WAS A THOUGHT THAT THE BUILDING MIGHT COME DOWN FOR WENT UP SO THE GRAFFITI HAD BEEN THERE AND THEN GOT WERE FEEDING.
A GRAFFITI APPLICATION IF IT'S GOING TO STAY IS PROBABLY A WORTHWHILE INVESTMENT TO MINIMIZE DAMAGE IN THE FUTURE.
>> RETAIN PLUS MINIMAL INVESTMENT OF ANTI-GRAFFITI.
>> NUMBER 4 IS THE HISTORY OF THE DATE INDUSTRY WITH THE ESTIMATE OF ONE OF $23,000 PLUS I WOULD SAY THAT'S EITHER REMOVED OR PAINT OVER.
I BELIEVE THAT MURAL HAS TO BE STRIPPED OFF THE WALL BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY PEELING OFF THE WALL.
>> IS ALREADY STRIPPING ITSELF OFF THE WALL.
[LAUGHTER] >> IT WON'T LAST 48 DAYS THE WAY IT'S GOING.
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IT DIDN'T MAKE TOTAL SENSE TO ME.>> WE DON'T WANT TO SPEND ANY MONEY ON IT? SO IT WOULD BE PURSUING A PAINT OVER OR DIA SESSION?
>> I DON'T THINK THE PAINT OVER WILL BE APPROPRIATE FOR THIS ONE BECAUSE THERE'S NO AMOUNT OF EIGHT THAT WILL STAY ON THAT BUILDING.
IT IS PEELING OFF ON ITS OWN SO IT HAS TO BE REMOVED IN SOME WAY, PHYSICALLY.
>> REMOVABLE IS THE RECOMMENDATION?
>> HOW THAT GETS DONE IS SOMEWHAT OF A TECHNICAL BECAUSE REMOVAL IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION?
>> IF YOU LEAVE IT AS IS FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS IT MIGHT REMOVE ITSELF ENTIRELY BUT IT NEEDS TO GO FASTER.
>> WE CLARIFY REMOVAL AND DIA SESSION IS THAT THE SAME PROCESS?
>> I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.
IT IS NOT PART OF OUR PUBLIC ARTS PROGRAM.
IF A GOING TO SPEND CITY MONEY ON IT AND GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF REPAIRING THE WALL AND DOING SOMEWHAT RESTORATIVE WORK TO GET THE SURFACE BACK TO A MANAGEABLE CONDITION IT IS PROBABLY MUCH MORE INVOLVED THEN BLUNTLY PUTTING PAINT ON IT AND QUICKLY PAINTING OVER IT JUST TO MAKE IT GO AWAY.
I THINK IT WOULD BE A REMOVAL BUT WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE IS A QUESTION MARK FOR ME BECAUSE IT WOULD BE HOW SOON CAN WE ENGAGE WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER.
THIS IS ONE THAT MIGHT COME BACK TO YOU.
THEY MIGHT SAY YOU CAN THROW PAINT ON THE BUILDING AND THAT'S ALL YOU CAN DO.
IF THAT DOESN'T APPLY OR WORK FOR SOME REASON WE MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
THEY COULD SAY WE WANT THE BUILDING WALL TO LOOK MUCH MORE COMPLETE AND THAT MIGHT BE DIA SESSION TO THAT SITUATION.
>> TRADITIONALLY IT MEANS YOU ARE GETTING RID OF IT.
YOU ARE TAKING IT FROM THE LIST OF PROPERTY.
>> WHAT HAPPENS TO IT, WHEREVER IT IS THE BUILDING OWNER CAN PAINT OVER IT BUT IT NO LONGER BELONGS IN THE PROPERTY LIST OF THE CITY OF INDIO.
>> BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY OF THESE AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, EVEN THOUGH THEY AREN'T PART OF THE PUBLIC ARTS PROGRAM THERE IS A PERCEPTION THAT THE CITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEM SO THE CITY IS GOING TO SPEND SIGNIFICANT RESOURCES TO EFFECTIVELY REMOVE THE MURAL AND DO RESTORATIVE WORK AND NEEDS TO BE DONE TO THE SURFACE AND TO ME THAT IS PROBABLY MORE VIA SESSION CONVERSATION DAN A PERMISSION TO PAINTS.
I THINK IT IS A QUESTION OF WHAT COMES NEXT?
>> THE NEXT ONE NUMBER 5 HISTORY OF ELECTRICITY IS ALSO IN CRITICAL CONDITION WITH AN ESTIMATED REPAIR COST OF 111 SIX AND $50.
>> THIS ONE YOU WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO D EXCESS AND I THINK THE DISCUSSION LATER WILL HAVE TO BE THAT WE TALK ABOUT EITHER REPLACING OR PUTTING IN A NEW MURAL EITHER A DIFFERENT THEME TO ARTIST OR WHATEVER GOOD THAT BUILDING OWNER DOES HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH US.
>> REMOVAL PLUS DIA SESSION AND POTENTIALLY IN NEW MURAL?
>> IF WE REPAINT ON THE SAME BUILDING WOULD IT MAKE MORE SENSE TO MAKE ARRANGEMENTS TO HAVE A NEW MURAL READY TO GO?
>> THAT IS A COMMISSION DISCUSS AND.
>> INSTEAD OF PAINTING OVER AND LETTING IT SIT THERE IS TO HAVE SOMETHING IN THE WINGS READY TO GO?
>> IF YOU HAVE A MURAL PROGRAM?
>> THAT WOULD REALLY BEGIN A NEW PROGRAM.
>> THAT WOULD MEET THE REQUIREMENT OF A NUMBER OF THESE SUGGESTIONS PEERED WE LOVE TO SEE NEW THINGS AS LONG AS THE OLD THINGS NEED TO BE GONE, SOME OF THEM BUT WE WANT NEW THINGS IN THEIR PLACE.
>> CAN THAT BE ADDED ON AUTOMATICALLY IF WE ARE REMOVING THEM? OR IF WERE LEAVING THEM AS OPTIONS?
>> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS TO HAPPEN WITH THAT IS THAT THAT WALL NEEDS TO BE ADEQUATELY PREP FOR A MURAL BECAUSE IT HAS PEELED OFF AND WE HAVE REPAINTED THE LEFT PORTION OF THAT WOULD BE FOR IN THEIR STILL ISSUES WITH DRAINAGE ON THE ROOF.
>> THAT COULD BE A GOOD SOLUTION TO THAT.
>> TO REVISIT FOR A MOMENT IF I COULD, REMOVAL WAS AGREED UPON THE DIA SESSION I'M NOT ENTIRELY THERE IF YOU ARE SAYING THAT OR PAINTING AND A NEW MURAL.
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>> I THINK THE ULTIMATE GOAL WOULD BE TO GET A NEW NEURAL THERE.
>> THE REMOVAL IS HOW FAR CAN WE GET INTO THE CONVERSATION WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER? THEY MAY ONLY AGREE FOR THE REMOVAL IF WE AGREE TO SIGNIFICANT REPAIR ACTION TO THE SURFACE NOT JUST PAINTING IT AND THAT BECOMES A QUESTION BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GET THEM IN THE PROGRAM IN ORDER TO SPEND THE MONEY TO IN ESSENCE GET THEM OUT OF THE PROGRAM.
BUT THEN THE FOLLOW-UP POINT, WE MAY WANT TO HAVE THEM BACK IN THE PROGRAM AND HAVE THE PERMISSION TO DO A MURAL ON THE PROPERTY WHICH WE WOULD THEN HAVE AN AGREEMENT TO DO THE NEW MURAL.
>> IF WE APPROACH THE PROPERTY OWNER SAYING THIS MURAL NEEDS TO GO BECAUSE IT'S LIVED HIS LIFE, WE HAVE A NEW PROJECT WAITING IN ORDER TO HAVE THIS NEW PROJECT DONE WE NEED YOU TO BE IN THE PROGRAM SO WE CAN ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF THE WALL PROPERLY.
ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE IT SOUNDS DIFFERENT IT IS REMOVAL PLUS NEW MURAL.
YOUR WANTING TO USE THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY FOR A NEW MURAL.
>> NUMBER 6 IS AQUACULTURE IN FAIR CONDITION WITH REPAIR ESTIMATE OF 17,000+ UP TO 58,000+.
>> I THINK WE CAN LEAVE THAT AS IS FOR THE NEXT 48 MONTHS AS WELL.
>> ONE OF THE THINGS WHEN WE GET TO THE END I THINK REASONABLY IN THE DESERT ANY ANTI-GRAFFITI BECAUSE OF THE HEAT FACTORS ARE LOOKING AT A LIFELINE OF 3 TO 5 YEARS.
PROBLEMATICALLY AT THE END OF THE DISCUSSION I WOULD LIKE YOU TO GIVE YOUR THOUGHTS ON WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD FOR THOSE THAT WILL REMAIN FOR THE FOUR YEARS FOR EXAMPLE WHETHER WE SHOULD GO THROUGH AND GET PERMISSION TO APPLY ON THOSE THAT ARE PRIVATELY OWNED AND ANTI-GRAFFITI APPLICATION TO THEM SO WE GET THE EFFECT OF THE APPLICATION BECAUSE EVERYTHING IN THE DESERT GOES FASTER.
>> SO NUMBER 6 AS IS FOUR YEARS.
>> NUMBER 7 THE HISTORY OF WATER IN THE COACHELLA VALLEY IT HAS AN ESTIMATED REPAIR RANGING FROM $26,000 PLUS TWO 83,000+ DOLLARS.
THAT WAS ONE THAT I LEFT UP FOR DISCUSSION.
IT IS A SOUTH FACING MURAL SO IT IS GOING TO GET A LOT MORE SON AND THAT'S WHY IT'S FADED SO MUCH.
IT IS UP RATHER HIGH SO THE EQUIPMENT COST IS INCLUDED IN THAT NUMBER AND JUST A SIDE FOR THAT WHEN THE ARTIST NAME IS NO LONGER ON THE WALL AND WE HAVE BEEN ASKED TO AT LEAST HAVE SOMEONE PAINT OR PUT A SIGNAGE ON THERE BECAUSE THE BRONZE PLAQUE WAS STOLEN.
EXCESS ANOTHER THING TO DISCUSS WITH THAT MURAL.
I WILL LEAVE IT UP TO YOU GUYS TO DISCUSS WHETHER EITHER OF THOSE OPTIONS IS ADEQUATE OR IF YOU JUST WANT TO LEAVE IT IN PLACE AND REEVALUATE IN LESS THAN 48 MONTHS OR TALK ABOUT DOING IT NOW.
>> WELL, I WOULD SUGGEST LEAVING IT AS IS AND THEN REEVALUATE IT IN 24 MONTHS.
>> A SHORTER TIMEFRAME? IN THE MEANTIME WE CAN LOOK INTO PUTTING UP AN ARTIST CREDIT?
>> I THINK EITHER THE DIRECTOR OR CHAIR CAN AUTHORIZE THAT FITS UNDER CERTAIN AMOUNT TO REPLACE THE SIGNAGE.
>> AM GOING TO BREAK THIS DOWN IF I COULD GOING TO DO AS IS FOR TO FOUR MONTHS AND THEN REEVALUATE.
FOR THIS PARTICULAR ONE, I'M AFRAID TO PUT ANOTHER PLAQUE UP THERE ON THE SITE.
>> HONESTLY I THINK YOU COULD HAVE IT REPLICATED IN PAINT OR HAVE IT PAINTED OVER WITH THE WALL PAINT AND THEN HAVE THE ARTIST NAME.
>> REAPPLY ARTIST NAME IN AN APPROPRIATE MATTER?
I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR THRESHOLD IS FOR INVOLVING THE REST OF THE COMMISSION?
>> THIS WOULD BE A VERY LOW DOLLAR I WOULD SUSPECT'S.
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THE ONLY THING AND I APOLOGIZE I TYPICALLY WOULD SEEK THE PERMISSION OF THE ARTIST BECAUSE WE WOULD BE TOUCHING IT AS WELL AS THE PROPERTY OWNER.>> THE CITY IS THE OWNER OF THE BUILDING AND ASSIGNOR DELAY SIGNAGE IS BELOW THE MURAL THE PLAQUE WAS BELOW.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE PHOTO IT IS A SQUARE PINK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SEA OF WHITE.
>> I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT I WAS NOT AWARE.
AS IS TO HER MONTHS REEVALUATE AND REAPPLY THE ARTIST NAME AND TITLE IN AN APPROPRIATE FASHION.
>> NUMBER 8 MOVING TOWARDS THE FUTURE FAIR CONDITION WITH AN ESTIMATED REPAIR COST OF $11,025 TO 7000 TO THREE DOLLARS.
>> LEAVE AS IS REEVALUATE AND 48 MONTHS.
THAT IS NOT THAT OLD OF A MURAL.
>> I APOLOGIZE, HE SAID WHAT HE ATE MONTHS?
>> SIMILARLY NUMBER 9 REBIRTH IS ALSO IN FAIR CONDITION IS YOUR NEWER FROM 2013 AND ESTIMATED COST WOULD BE $800 $28,000.
>> IS THAT - >> THE HUMMINGBIRDS BUT NOT THE MONARCH GRATIAN.
>> THIS ONE IS OVER BY THE MUSEUM.
>> I KNOW MY ANIMALS I SWEAR WHAT'S RECOMMENDATION ON THIS ONE? AS IS AND REEVALUATE?
>> I THINK IT IS HEALTHY ENOUGH TO REVISIT AS IS BUT GIVE THAT ONE 36 MONTH THE CHOCKING WAS GETTING A LITTLE SERIOUS BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT COULD GET MUCH MORE SERIOUS.
>> I DO KNOW THAT IT NEEDS TO BE CLEANED AS THEY ALL DO BUT THAT ONE SPECIFICALLY.
>> AS IS 36 MONTHS AND REEVALUATE AND PERHAPS WE CAN TOUCH ON THE CLEANING ISSUE AT THE END? SIMILAR TO THE OTHER TOPIC?
>> THE NEXT ONE IS OLD INDIO FROM 2016 IS STILL IN FAIR CONDITION BUT THE ESTIMATED RESTORATION COST WOULD BE OVER $12,000 TO $29,000.
WHY DON'T WE JUST CALL THE ARTIST? HE STILL ALIVE.
[LAUGHTER] >> THAT COULD BE AN OPTION.
>> ACTUALLY, I TRIED TO GET HOLD OF HIM ONCE WHEN I JUST NOTICED SOME DETERIORATION TRIED TO GET A HOLD OF THEM BUT WE'VE NEVER HEARD BACK FROM HIM.
I THINK HE SHOULD HAVE FIRST CRACK AT IT, HE LIVES IN DESERT HOT SPRINGS.
>> AS IS REEVALUATE POSSIBLY REACH OUT TO THE ARTIST?
>> WHAT IS THE TIMEFRAME FOR REEVALUATION?
>> 12 MONTHS SINCE IT IS WELL VIEWED? PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS LOOKING AT THAT MURAL BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT THERE AT THE CORNER OF MILES AND TOWN.
>> IS THAT ON OUR BUILDING? LEXA BIG JOHNSON PHOTO BUILDING? THAT'S NOT OUR BUILDING IT IS PRIVATE.
>> WHAT I WROTE IS 12AS IS 12 MONTHS CONTACT ARTIST TO SEE IF WILLING TO DO RESTORATIVE WORK.
>> GIVE HIM FIRST DIBS I GUESS.
>> THE LAST ONE IS THE MONARCH MIGRATION WHICH IS LISTED IN GOOD CONDITION WITH NO TREATMENT REQUIRED SO ZERO DOLLARS BUT IF YOU WANT TO SPEND MONEY ON IT WE CAN SPEND UP TO $10,000 ON IT.
>> NUMBER.[LAUGHTER] LEAVE AS IS REEVALUATE AND 48 MONTHS AND LET THE SCHOOL
DISTRICT PAY FOR IT.[LAUGHTER] >> REEVALUATE AND 48 MONTHS.
>> THAT'S ALL THE MURALS AND THEN WE HAVE THE TWO ITEMS ABOUT GRAFFITI, ANTI-GRAFFITI COATING IN POTENTIAL CLEANING.
>> THEY ALL NEED TO BE CLEANED.
>> THE QUESTION THEN WOULD BE SIMILAR.
AGAIN WE CANNOT ASK US PRIVATE PROPERTY AND WE COULD REACH OUT AS A MINIMUM TO ADD CLEANING AND ANTI-GRAFFITI TREATMENT AND WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THOSE.
WE COULD CERTAINLY DO THAT ON CITY-OWNED ONES OBVIOUSLY AND ON SOME OF THEM WE CAN GET THE RECOMMENDATION ON THE CONSERVATIVES TO PUT AN ANTI-GRAFFITI COATING ON ANYTHING TO GET RESTORED OR CLEANED UP.
I WOULD HATE TO TRAP ANYTHING.
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I DO THINK WE HAVE TO INCLUDE ANTI-GRAFFITI IN THE VILLAGE AND THAT'S THE ONE WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT.THAT IS A CITY-OWNED BUILDING.
>> TO BE CLEAR THE RECOMMENDATION IS GET A RECOMMENDATION FROM EVERGREEN AS TO WHETHER TO PURSUE ANY ANTI-GRAFFITI TREATMENT AT THIS TIME OR WAIT UNTIL THE RESTORATIVE WORK MIGHT BE CONDUCTED SO THAT WE GET THE BENEFIT OF THE RESTORATIVE WORK PLUS THE ANTI-GRAFFITI?
>> IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO COAT IT WITH ANTI-GRAFFITI IF IT'S NOT CLEAN.
>> THUS THE OTHER QUESTION OBVIOUSLY.
THE CLEANING AND WE CAN DO THAT EASILY OR MORE EASILY ON CITY PROPERTY WE WOULD HAVE TO GET PERMISSION TO DO THE WORK AND SPEND ANY RESOURCES.
THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE COULD PACKAGE IN WITH THE OUTREACH TO SOME OF THE OWNERS THAT YOU'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED.
>> THAT'S PROBABLY A GOOD IDEA.
SO, THAT COVERS ALL THE MURALS.
DO WE THEN AS A COMMISSION SINCE THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM SHOULD BE MAKE A MOTION TO PRESENT THIS TO COUNSEL?
YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND AND YOU DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO REPEATED ALL.
WE COULD RECOMMEND AS PRESENTED AND DISCUSSED.
YOU COULD RECOMMEND SOME ALTERNATIVE TO THAT YOU COULD RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY COUNCIL TAKE NO ACTION PAID YOU COULD PUT THIS OVER TO ANOTHER MEETING IF YOU ARE NOT READY TO MAKE A MOTION.
IT'S REALLY THE COMMITTEES DISCUSSION ON HOW YOU WANT TO PROCEED NEXT.
>> DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY THOUGHTS?
>> I THINK WE'VE MADE RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW TO APPROACH THESE SO WE COULD RECOMMEND TO COUNT WILL THIS IS WHAT WE DISCUSSED, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE THINK COULD HAPPEN, EXCEPT A RECOMMENDATION.
>> IF THAT IS THE CONSENSUS IN ORDER TO FORMALIZE THAT THE COMMISSION WOULD NEED TO TAKE ACTION.
IF YOU DECIDE TO DO THAT ONE OF THE FOLLOW-UPS I WOULD DO IS DOCUMENT THIS AND SEND IT OUT TO THE COMMISSION MEMBERS AND MAKE SURE I CAPTURED THIS CORRECTLY.
I ALSO HAVE IT ON RECORD BUT I WROTE IT DOWN ON NOTE.
AS IT IS IN YOUR COLLECTIVE HEADS YOU CAN LET ME KNOW BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO REPEAT EVERYTHING YOU COULD SAY AS PRESENTED AND DISCUSSED THIS EVENING.
THAT CAN BE A RECOMMENDATION TO THAT.
>> I WILL MOVE FOR THE RECOMMENDATIONS AS DISCUSSED BY MR. SCHNEIDER TODAY.
>> VICE CHAIRPERSON BILL SCHINSKY?
>> COMMISSIONER CECELIA CRUZ-ZENDEJAS?
>> COMMISSIONER VENESSA BECERRA? OCEAN CARRIES 5-0.
>> THINK YOU ARE MUCH EVERYBODY.
>> ALL RIGHT, ITEM NUMBER 7.1 OF TALK ABOUT THE INSTALLATION OF EIGHT.
[7. STAFF ITEMS]
>> IF YOU HAVE AN BY THE PARK YOU CAN SEE THE ART INSTALLATION HAS OCCURRED THEY ARE STILL FENCING UP BECAUSE THEY ARE STILL WORKING TO GET THE LANDSCAPING AND LIGHTING INSTALLED AND WORKING WITH PUBLIC WORKS TEAM ON THAT.
WERE HOPING TO GET THAT IN IDEALLY BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR IF WE CAN.
WE ARE TALKING TO OUR CONTRACT THIRD TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
ONE OF THE ISSUES WE ARE DEALING WITH IN ALL HONESTY THAT HAS ALREADY ATTRACTED SOME HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE BROKEN INTO THE ART INSTALLATION CAMP.
SO THE QUALITY OF LIFE TEAM IS ASSISTING US WITH THAT IN TERMS OF GENTLE WAYS TO ADDRESS THAT.
THERE ARE SEVERAL OPTIONS FOR THAT LEAVING AND NOT HAVING THE BOTTOM PIECES ON WHICH MAY INVITE PEOPLE BUT AT THE SAME TIME THEY ARE NOT BREAKING IN.
THE OTHER OPTION IS TO LOOK AT A STRONGER AND THE OTHER THING IS TO TALK ABOUT THE PERIMETER AROUND THE ART PIECES.
WE WILL TALK TO THE ART TEAM AND THE LAW ENFORCEMENT SIDE AND AS NEEDED WILL REACH OUT TO PAUL.
PAUL HAS ALREADY REACHED OUT ON THIS BECAUSE HE KNEW IT WOULD PRETTY MUCH LIKELY
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HAPPENED SO WE ARE AVAILABLE TO ASSIST IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT THAT.WE WILL ALSO LOOK AT SOME SORT OF SECURITY INSTALLATION.
OUR IT DEPARTMENT IS DOING RESEARCH ON WOULD BE AN EFFECT IF SYSTEM ALONG WITH SIGNAGE THAT IS THE TYPICAL YOU ARE BEING WATCHED KIND OF THING THAT MIGHT BE A DETERRENT.
THE REALITY OF THIS LOCATION THERE ARE PLUS AND MINUSES.
THIS IS NOT A HEAVILY TRAVELED AREA AND IT MIGHT NOT ALWAYS GET I'M CONFIDENT THAT WE WILL NEED A SOLUTION TO IT.
IT'S OBVIOUSLY NEW AND ATTRACTING THAT NEWNESS FACTOR.
ONCE THE PARK IS FULLY UP AND RUNNING IT'S GETTING MORE HEAVILY UTILIZED DURING THE DAY AND THAT MAY DETER SOME FOLKS FROM WANTING TO BE ON THAT SIDE AS WELL.
>> THIS BRINGS US TO ITEM 7.2 MILES AVENUE BRIDGE ARC PROJECT.
>> THE CITY MANAGER HAS EXECUTED THE CONTRACT WITH VISUAL ON METAL ART.
I WANT TO SAY A VIGIL THAT IT IS VIGIL ON.
WE HAVE EXECUTED A CONTRACT WITH THEM WE ARE PROCESSING A PARTIAL PAYMENT UPFRONT TO ALLOW THEM TO SECURE THE MATERIALS WE NEED TO.
PER THE CONTRACT THEIR PRODUCTION SCHEDULE IS FROM DECEMBER 1 TO JUNE 30 THEY WILL BE FABRICATING A TOTAL OF 31 PIECES BASED ON THE DESIGNS THAT WERE SUBMITTED.
THE INSTALLATION WILL OCCUR IN WEATHER APPROPRIATE CONDITIONS IN TALKING TO THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR SIR HE MAY NOT WANT HIS TEAM OUT THERE AT 120+ DEGREE WEATHER INSTALLING METAL TRADE I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT AND WE WILL GET THE MINISTER'S WE CAN AND IF THEY ARE ABLE TO GET THEM THEY MAY GET THEM TO US IN PIECES ARE NOT IN PIECES BUT MAYBE THEY HAVE FIVE PRODUCED.
SO, THAT IS MOVING ALONG AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN WRAP THAT PROJECT UP AND HAVE THAT PARTICULAR PROGRAM COMPLETED.
LEXI DON'T WANT TO INSTALL METAL IN 125 DEGREES? THAT'S WHAT WE DO.
[LAUGHTER] >> I APPRECIATE THAT.
THAT IS THE REDUCTION TIMEFRAME.
I HAVE A SENSE THAT THEY MIGHT GET DONE QUICKER THAN THAT TIMEFRAME BUT THEY OBVIOUSLY NEED THE PRODUCTION GOAL ON A MONTHLY BASIS TO COMPLETE THE ARTWORK IN A TIMELY FASHION.
>> ALL RIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ITEM? ANY COMMENTS? THANKS MUCH FOR THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM NUMBER 8.
[8. COMMISSIONER ITEMS]
ANYTHING ANYBODY HAS TO MAKE KNOWN?THIS WEEKEND ON THE 13TH IS SYNERGY ARTS AND MUSIC FESTIVAL WHICH IS SHOWCASING A LOT OF LOCAL ARTISTS AND LOCAL CRAFTERS.
I DEFINITELY WOULD, IF YOU ARE ALL AVAILABLE GO CHECK IT OUT AND MEET THE ORIGINAL ARTISTS AND YOU CAN INCLUDE THEM INTO THE ART IN THE COACHELLA VALLEY AND INDIO.
IT WILL BE ALL DAY ON SATURDAY.
GRAMMY NOMINATED ARTISTS WILL BE THERE.
>> IT IS AT BEIT LAND PARK, CECILIA?
DATE LAND PARK IN COACHELLA AND I WILL BE THERE DOING LIVE ART AS WELL.
YOU KNOW, THE ART CENTER HAS BEEN DOING THE ARTIST COMMENT ON THE SIDE OF THE NORTH FACING WALL OF THE BUILDING.
I HAVE PIECES UP NOW AND IN DECEMBER THEY WILL BE UP FOR THE TAMALE FESTIVAL.
I GIVEN THE ENTIRE WALL TO BRIAN PESCA DOOR A LOCAL YOUNG MAN, A PHOTOGRAPHER AND THE REASON I GAVE HIM THE ENTIRE WALL IS BECAUSE HE HAS USED THE CAMERA AS HIS FORM OF THERAPY HAVING BEEN DIAGNOSED AS BIPOLAR.
HIS USE OF THE CAMERA HAS A SICKLY TIM MENTALLY SANE AND ALIVE.
HIS IMAGERY WILL BE UP FOR DECEMBER AND UP UNTIL THEN I WILL HAVE FIVE DIFFERENT ARTISTS UP ON THE WALL.
THEY ARE UP NOW AND ONE OF THEM IS FROM THEODORE ROOSEVELT SCHOOL AND CONCEPTUALLY THE THIRD-GRADERS RECEIVED DICTIONARIES FROM THE INDIO ROTARY AS THEY GIVE THEM EVERY YEAR AND THE PROJECT WAS TO CHOOSE THE FIRST LETTER OF THE FIRST NAME OR THE FIRST LETTER OF THE LAST NAME AND GO TO THAT SECTION OF THE DICTIONARY AND FIND A NEW WORD THAT YOU LIKE.
AND THEN WRITE THAT WORD DOWN WITH YOUR NAME AND THEN TROT AROUND IT TO BE CREATIVE AND UNFORTUNATELY, SUPERVISORS DID NOT TRANSLATE THE DIRECTIONS WELL ENOUGH.
SOME OF THE KIDS GOT IT AND SOME OF THEM DIDN'T IT IT'S STILL A SWEET PIECE.
IF YOU WALK BY, PLEASE LOOK AT IT.
[LAUGHTER] >> THANK YOU FOR THAT.
>> CHAIR, CAN I MAKE ONE ADDITIONAL COMMENT? EARLIER THERE WAS A DESCRIPTION ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS HAPPENING.
IF THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO BE INFORMED OF THOSE EITHER FORMALLY OR INFORMALLY, PLEASE LET ME KNOW AND WE WILL DO A BETTER JOB OF THAT AND IF THERE IS
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A DESIRE FOR PRESENTATION ON THE ACTIVITIES GOING ON WHETHER IT'S DOWNTOWN OR CITYWIDE WE CAN LOOK TO THE CHAIR IN TERMS OF AGENDA ITEMS FOR THAT.PLEASE LET THE CHAIR KNOW IN THE APPROPRIATE WAY.
WE WOULD CERTAINLY BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION.
THAT BRINGS US TO ADJOURNMENT AND IF THERE IS A MOTION TO ADJOURN? ASK I WILL MOTION TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING.
>> THANK YOU EVERYBODY.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.