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>> WELCOME.

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THIS IS THE AGENDA FOR THE CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING.

[1. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL]

TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 30, 2021 AT 4:00 P.M.

TO CLEAR AN EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER.

MS. SANCHEZ, MAY WE HAVE ROLL CALL, PLEASE? LET'S ALL STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>> OKAY.

PUBLIC COMMENT.

THIS IS THE TIME SET ASIDE FOR THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK OR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.

DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? IS THERE ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK? NO COMMENTS? WITH ONE REDHEAD TO ITEM NUMBER 4.

[4.1 City Council Strategic Plan: Areas of Focus, Goals and Action Plans]

CITY COUNCIL STRATEGIC PLAN AREAS OF FOCUS.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO KICK THIS OFF WITH A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS.

WE ALL HAVE RELABELED IDEAS AND A VISION FOR WHAT WE WANT OUR CITY TO BE, AND WE ARE SELECTIVELY HAVE SOME EXTRA FUNDS OR ADDITIONAL FUNDS THAT WE CAN WORK WITH.

BUT THESE FUNDS, WE NEED TO REALLY BE RAZOR-SHARP IN OUR FOCUS AND APPLICATION OF THESE FUNDS.

WE NEED TO LOOK AT, IF I MAY SUGGEST, WASTE FROM AN ECONOMIC PERSPECTIVE WELL AT THAT ECONOMIC VITALITY AND STRENGTH TO OUR CITY SO THAT INDIO BECOMES THE PREMIER DESTINATION FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE, FOR BUSINESSES, FOR QUALITY OF LIFE AND CREATE THAT QUALITY IN THAT SENSE OF ECONOMIC DIRECTION SO THAT WE CAN ENHANCE OUR RESOURCES AND OUR RESOURCES GROW.

THAT'S MY TWO CENTS AS OF MAY REALLY LOOK TO FOCUS IN ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND ULTIMATELY OUR GOAL IS TO GIVE STAFF SOME CLEAR DIRECTION SO THAT THEY CAN EXECUTE.

AND WITH THAT IN MIND I'M GOING TO TURN THIS OVER TO THE CITY MANAGER.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR.

IF WE COULD PULL THE POWERPOINT UP BRIEFLY.

I DID PLACE IN FRONT OF YOU AND STAFF HAS A COPY AS WELL, AS A DRAFT SO PLEASE.

I KNOW WE'VE MET A COUPLE OF TIMES AND STARTED TALKING ABOUT A LOT OF WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING HERE.

IN FACT, PART OF THE DISCUSSION THIS MORNING WITH THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR STAFF IS WHETHER THIS IT IS BECOMING MORE OF A WORK PLAN AS WE TRY TO REINTRODUCE THE CONCEPT OF A FORMAL STRATEGIC PLAN TO THE COUNCIL.

AND I WILL EXPLAIN THAT IN JUST A LITTLE BIT, AND THIS WILL BE A FREE-FLOWING INPUT SESSION.

WE HAVE A LOT OF PENS IN THE ROOM THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF NOTES AND STAFF HAS PROVIDED A LOT OF INPUT AS WELL.

BUT THE KEY COMPONENTS OF ANY STRATEGIC PLAN IS TO OUTLINE A MISSION.

WE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE.

WHERE SHOULD WE FOCUS.

WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT AGAIN TODAY.

SOME GENERAL GOALS WITHIN THOSE AREAS, AND RELATED TO THOSE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES -- BECAUSE THAT'S ANOTHER WORD WE CAN USE FOR THE WORD GOAL IS WHAT IS OUR OBJECTIVE IN PUBLIC SAFETY.

WHAT IS OUR OBJECTIVE IN COMMUNITY BEAUTIFICATION, COMMUNITY INFRASTRUCTURE.

BUT FOR US -- AND I KNOW SOME OF THE ITEMS -- BECAUSE I'VE EMAILED THIS TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE STAFF IS HOW PREPARED SOME ACTION ITEMS -- THAT'S WHERE IT FEELS A LITTLE BIT MORE LIKE A WORK PLAN.

LIKE, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO TO HELP ACCOMPLISH THESE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES? SO SOME OF IT MAY SEEM A LITTLE BIT MUNDANE.

SOME OF THEM ARE LARGER THAN OTHERS.

AND LET'S TALK FOR THOSE.

THE STAFF TEAM IS TIRED OF ME USING THIS EXAMPLE, BUT IT'S THE BEST ONE I CAN THINK OF.

SO YOU'VE GOT HERE A CREW THAT'S GROWING ABOUT, RIGHT? AND SO IN ONE OF MY DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR DISCUSSIONS WITH A TEEN, I TALKED ABOUT MAKING SURE WE ALL ALL HITTING THE OARS IN THE WATER AT THE SAME TIME, THAT WE DON'T HAVE SOME RAILING AT ONE SPEED AND SOME AT ANOTHER.

WE WILL GAIN A LOT OF TRACTION WE ARE NOT ALL HITTING THE WATER AT THE SAME TIME.

AND I THINK I DID SHARE THIS EXAMPLE BEFORE, BUT OUR GOOD FRIEND TRISH RAY WHO HAS NOW LEFT US TO GO BACK HOME TO SEATTLE, SHE SAID, BRIAN, I USED TO BE ON A CREW.

I USED TO BE A ROWER.

AND OUR COACH SAID WHEN YOU FINALLY AS A TEAM ALL HIT THE WATER AT THE SAME TIME, WHEN EVERYBODY HAS THAT CADENCE DOWN, WE KNOW WHAT DIRECTION WE ARE GOING AND WE KNOW WITH THE CADENCES, THERE IS A SOUND.

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THERE'S A SOUND WHEN EACH ORDER HITS THE WATER AT THE SAME TIME AND FLOWS THROUGH, AND HER COACH CALLED IT THE ANGEL'S WIND.

THAT THERE IS THIS FEELING OF MOMENTUM AND TRUST AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

SO A GOAL OF ANY WORK PLAN, STRATEGIC PLAN, AS BEST AS POSSIBLE -- WE ARE ALL DIFFERENT PERSONALITIES AND WE HAVE THE POLICYMAKERS WHO ARE THE BOSSES IN THIS ROOM AND WE HAVE THE RESIDENCE THAT CURRENTLY TALK OF OUR ORGANIZATIONAL CHART AND ARE THE ULTIMATE BOSSES, BUT THE MORE FOCUSED WE ARE, THE MORE WE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE, THE MORE WE CAN HIT THE WATER AT THE SAME TIME, EVEN IF WE ARE NOT IN FULL AGREEMENT BUT WE HAVE A CONSENSUS, WE WILL MOVE FORWARD.

BUT WHILE WE ARE ALL GROWING YOU CAN IMAGINE IF ONE OF THESE GROWERS DECIDES OR DON'T WANT TO DO THIS ANYMORE.

YOU STICK ONE OR IN THE WATER WITH THE OTHER EIGHT TRYING TO GO IN THE SAME DIRECTION AND PRETTY SOON THE BOAT JUST STOPS OR IT'S GOING TO TURN DIRECTION.

SO THE GOAL FOR US AS THE MAYOR WISELY STATED, IS AT THE END TO GET YOUR CLEAR DIRECTION.

WE ARE PROBABLY TWO STEPS AWAY FROM THAT AFTER THIS MEETING, BUT THAT'S THE GOAL.

AND THEN THIS QUOTE, SOME OF YOU CAN SEE CLOSELY, BUT YOU REPRESENTING AS THE ELECTED OFFICIALS THE RESIDENCE HERE, THOSE OF US WHO LIVE IN INDIO, YOU NEED TO TELL US WHAT ARE THE RIGHT THINGS WE SHOULD DO.

WHAT DO YOU WANT US TO ACCOMPLISH? IT'S OUR TASK TO DO THEM IN THE RIGHT WAY, TO DO THEM EFFICIENTLY AND PROFESSIONALLY PARTICULAR TO IMPLEMENT WHAT YOUR PLAN IS, SO THE PLAN IS BEING DISCIPLINED ON WHAT IS RIGHT THINGS ARE.

I DOUBT WE HAVE UNANIMITY BUT ONCE WE HAD A CONSENSUS, WE MARCH FORWARD.

SO IT'S NOT DISCIPLINE, DIRECTION OF HOW WE CAN IMPROVE THE COMMUNITY IS REALLY WHAT WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS.

AND FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, WE DIDN'T GET THIS DOCUMENT.

AND AS YOU SEE IN THE DRAFT, THERE ARE CHECKBOXES FOR US.

AGAIN, WE DON'T WANT TO MERELY JUST SAY WE GOT THAT WENT ON, WE GOT THAT WENT ON.

BECAUSE IF WE HAVE THE RIGHT THINGS ON THAT LIST, WE WILL BE ACCOMPLISHING THINGS THAT OUR CONSTITUENTS WANT, AND AS THE MAYOR STATED, WE WILL BE MAKING INDIO AND EVEN BETTER COMMUNITY.

THAT IS OUR GOAL.

AND SO LET'S TALK TODAY AND BRAINSTORM THINGS THAT WE CAN DO WHATEVER AREAS OF FOCUS WE SETTLE IN ON, WHAT SHOULD WE BE DOING TO MAKE THIS A BETTER COMMUNITY.

WE ARE FORTUNATE TO HAVE SOME ONE-TIME MONIES AVAILABLE, SO THE VERY NEXT MEETING WOULD BE TOO PRICE OUT THE SPRING STORM, MEANING THESE ACTION ITEMS, AND COME BACK TO YOU AND SAY HERE'S WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT AND HERE'S WHAT WE THINK THEY WILL COST AND TELL US WHAT YOU WANT US TO ACCOMPLISH AND PRIORITIZE.

SO THAT'S KIND OF THE FLOW TODAY.

THESE AREAS OF FOCUS, AGAIN, CAN BE DISCUSSED.

SOME OF THEM GOT A LITTLE COMBINED SINCE THE LAST DISCUSSION, BUT WE SHOULD FIND THE AREAS WE SHOULD FOCUS ON.

IT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T HAVE SOME ANCILLARY THINGS GOING ON, BUT IF WE GET TOO DISTRACTED ON MATTERS THAT MAY NOT EVEN BE WITHIN OUR PURVIEW OR FULL CONTROL, THEN IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY COST.

IF WE SHIFT OUR FOCUS ON ANYTHING THAT IS NOT OF THE HIGHEST PRIORITY, IT TAKES TIME AND MONEY AWAY FROM THE HIGHEST PRIORITIES.

AGAIN, THE GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE WE FIND AT LEAST THESE GENERAL AREAS OF FOCUS, PUBLIC SAFETY BEING THE HIGHEST PRIORITY WHERE WE SPEND MOST OF OUR MONEY AND HAVE THE LARGEST STAFF, BUT THE QUESTION IS REALLY WHERE CAN WE EVEN DO BETTER? SO JUST QUICKLY, THIS IS THE OBJECTIVE THAT WE DISCUSSED, BUT CERTAINLY CAN MASSAGE.

BUT UNDER THIS REALM OF PUBLIC SAFETY, OUR OBJECTIVE IS TO MAKE SURE WE ARE TAKING THE STEPS NECESSARY TO HAVE AN EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT POLICE, FIRE, AMBULANCE SERVICES, AS WELL AS OUR EMERGENCY PLANNING.

TO MAKE SURE WE ARE PROVIDING THIS CRITICAL SERVICE.

THE IDEA IS HOW CAN WE BETTER DO THAT? AND WHENEVER WE GET INTO THIS TYPE OF DISCUSSION, IT'S NOT SAYING WE ARE DOING A TERRIBLE JOB NOW.

IN MANY RESPECTS, WE ARE DOING A VERY GOOD JOB, AN EXCELLENT JOB.

BUT THE BRAINSTORMING AND THE CONCEPT IS WHAT SHOULD WE KEEP DOING.

MAYBE THERE'S THINGS WE SHOULD STOP DOING BUT WHAT SHOULD WE STOP DOING OR KEEP DOING OR ADD TO THE LIST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE BETTER FULFILL THAT OBJECTIVE.

ANOTHER ONE IS A COMMUNITY INFRASTRUCTURE AND ANOTHER ONE IS COMMUNITY BEAUTIFICATION.

AND WE CAN MASSAGE THOSE.

SO WE HAVE A COUPLE OF PLACES THAT WE CAN START.

LET ME JUST FLOW TO THE NEXT STEP HERE BEFORE WE OPEN IT UP.

SO THE AREA FOCUS UNDER PUBLIC SAFETY, WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THE GOAL, THE OBJECTIVE, THE IDEA, THEN, IS TO HAVE SOME ITEMS, A WORK PLAN THAT IF WE

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ACCOMPLISH THOSE ITEMS, WE WILL BE HELPING TO ACHIEVE THAT OBJECTIVE.

AGAIN, ARE THERE THINGS WE ARE DOING THAT WE SHOULD STOP DOING? ARE THERE THINGS THAT WE SHOULD DO DEBATE THAT WE ARE DOING THAT WE CAN KEEP OUR DOING OR WHAT SHOULD WE ACT? THE MAYOR AND A DISCUSSION LAST WEEK AS WE DISCUSSED THIS MEETING SET ONE WAY TO THINK OF THIS IS HOW COULD WE TAKE THE NEXT STEP? HOW COULD WE ADVANCE AND ENHANCE OUR EFFORTS IN PUBLIC SAFETY? SO IF WE COULD BRAINSTORM SOME OF THOSE IDEAS, STAFF HAS GONE THROUGH AND IDENTIFIED A HANDFUL OF QUESTIONS AND HERE ARE SOME KEY QUESTIONS RELATED TO THE ACTION ITEMS. WATER PROJECTS AND PROGRAMS WE SHOULD FOCUS ON TO ACCOMPLISH THE GOAL IN EACH AREA? WHAT CAN BE DONE TO ADVANCE OUR EFFORTS? HOW CAN WE DO BETTER? IF WE ARE NOT MEETING YOUR EXPECTATIONS AS A CITY COUNCIL, AND YOU FEEL LIKE WE ARE NOT MEETING THE EXPECTATIONS OF THE PEOPLE THAT ELECTED YOU, CONSTITUENTS, WE NEED TO KNOW.

AND I KNOW SOMETIMES IT'S AN UNCOMFORTABLE SITUATION OR IN CONVERSATION, BUT WE NEED TO KNOW, AND WE WANT TO KNOW.

AND THEN THE VERY NEXT STEP, WHICH WOULD BE OUR SUBSEQUENT MEETING AND OUR EFFORT WOULD BE TOO PRICE OUT THESE ITEMS THAT YOU ARE SUGGESTING THAT WE DO, THAT STAFF HAS COME UP WITH, TO MOVE US FORWARD.

SO I WILL STOP TALKING HERE IN A MINUTE, BUT HERE IS WHAT IS IN YOUR DRAFT.

THOSE ON A POWERPOINT FOR THOSE WHO MIGHT BE WATCHING US AT HOME TO BE ABLE TO SEE SOME OF THE ITEMS BUT FOR EXAMPLE -- AND WE CAN BETTER DEFINE THIS, BUT PHASE ONE OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY CAMPUS IS A NEW SIMON JUAN DISPATCH CENTER, A NEW PUBLIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE BUILDING AND A NEW FIRE STATION ALL ON SOUTH JACKSON.

I THINK THE COUNCIL HAS ALREADY DECIDED THIS IN THE COMMUNITY IS AWARE OF THAT HAS WE WENT THROUGH MEASURE E.

IF WE ARE ABLE TO COMPLETE THOSE PROJECTS, WE WILL BE ENHANCING OUR ABILITY TO SERVE THE PUBLIC IN THE AREA OF PUBLIC SAFETY.

SO THAT'S A PRETTY CLEAR CUT WHEN, I WOULD THINK.

BUT THERE ARE OTHER IDEAS AS WELL.

THE CHIEF WAS PICKED TO IT TO SOME DEGREE AND HAS IN THE PAST, THAT WE HAVE SUCH AN ANTIQUATED SOFTWARE SYSTEM, LET'S CALL IT, RECORDS MANAGEMENT SYSTEM IN THE P.D.

THAT WE ARE NOT ABLE TO HAVE THE ANALYTICS THAT ARE NECESSARY FOR US TO DEPLOY THE OFFICERS IN THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY POSSIBLE AND TO FOLLOW ON WHAT THEY ENCOUNTER, THE REPORTS THEY FILE, THE PROSECUTION DOCUMENTS THAT ARE SENT TO THE DAS OFFICE AND SO FORTH AND AS WE DISPATCH FOLKS.

SO THAT'S AN IDEA.

EVERY DISCUSSED AS A CITY COUNCIL THAT WE SHOULD BRING IN SOMEBODY ONE CAMERA SYSTEM.

THE DATA STORAGE IS DIFFICULT.

I THINK YOU HEARD THAT THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS.

YOU CAN SEE HOW THOSE THREE EXAMPLES, IF THOSE ARE THINGS WE ACCOMPLISH AND YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE AND YOU THINK THAT MEETS EXPECTATIONS WE WILL BE IMPROVING OUR PUBLIC SAFETY CAPACITY FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OTHER ITEMS. SO MAYOR, I PROBABLY LEAVE IT OPEN WE ARE READY TO MAYBE TAKE SOME NOTES.

WE COULD GO THROUGH SOME OF THESE ITEMS OR PERHAPS JUST OPEN IT UP RIGHT NOW FIRST TO THE COUNCILMEMBERS AND THEN WE GOT BOTH CHIEFS HERE AND CODE ENFORCEMENT AS WELL.

WHAT ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE DO TO ENHANCE AND ADVANCE OUR SERVICES AND PUBLIC SAFETY? CAN YOU THINK OF SOME THAT MAYBE WE DIDN'T LIST ON THE SUGGESTED ITEMS? ANY OF THE COUNCILMEMBERS OR STAFF WANT TO CHIME AND? MAYOR, I WILL LET YOU KIND OF CALL ON WHOEVER YOU WANT.

>> (AWAY FROM MIC).

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>> I THINK THE ECHO OF THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED AND IT HAPPENED SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE ONLY A HANDFUL OF MONTHS.

THERE WILL BE A REPORT IN THE NEWSPAPER WHAT'S TAKING PLACE AT THE COURTHOUSE AND THE BYLINE SAYS INDIO, AND IT'S ABOUT SOMEBODY FROM DESERT SPRINGS THAT MURDERED SOMEONE AND PALM SPRINGS YET INDIO IS IN THE BYLINE.

IT'S NOT RIGHT.

IS AND HOW IT COMES FROM THE PRESS?

>> (AWAY FROM MIC).

>> THEY ARE HERE.

>> (AWAY FROM MIC).

>> WELL, THAT MIGHT BE AN EXAMPLE -- THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WE ARE DOING THAT WE NEED TO STOP DOING.

>> (AWAY FROM MIC).

THEY CAN GO AHEAD AND REPORTED TO THE MARKETING DEPARTMENT AND THE MARKETING DEPARTMENT CAN IN A GRANDER SCALE OR GRANDER STORY TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE POSITIVE THINGS THEY ARE DOING RATHER THAN THE FOLKS DOING THE NEGATIVE WHICH IS JUST ADDING IT TO OUR NEGATIVE PERCEPTION OF PUBLIC SAFETY.

>> CAN THE OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS CHIME IN ON THAT? IT SOUNDS LIKE A REASONABLE EFFORT.

>> I THINK TO EXPAND ON IT IS ONE OF THE THINGS WHERE AS A SOCIETY WE GET USED TO PUTTING SO MUCH OUT TO GET SO MUCH BACK OR GET SOME FEEDBACK OR GET SOME TRACTION FROM THE COMMUNITY, AND THERE'S JUST SOMETHING THAT MAY NOT BE BENEFICIAL TO PUT OUT.

AND IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT PERTAINS TO SAFETY OR ROAD CONSTRUCTION OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE, YES, BY ALL MEANS WE NEED TO PUT THAT OUT, BUT THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT THEY MAY NEED TO STAY IN HOUSE.

I THINK WE'VE GOTTEN CAUGHT UP IN THE WORLD TRANSPARENCY.

IT MAY BE -- IT'S AVAILABLE IF YOU REQUESTED.

THERE'S THINGS WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO PUT OUT BUT WE HAVE A PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER AT OUR PLACE DEPARTMENT IF SOMEONE IS REQUESTING INFORMATION.

WE DON'T HAVE TO PUT EVERYTHING OUT TO FEED INTO THE PERCEPTION OF ADVERSITY BECAUSE FOR THE FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN HERE, THEY KNOW THAT OUR CITY AND OUR VALLEY HAS CHANGED AND I SAID IT BEFORE AND I WILL SAY IT AGAIN, THIS IS THE SAFEST I'VE FELT IN OUR COMMUNITY AND IS A TESTAMENT TO THE HARD WORK FROM TOP TO BOTTOM FROM OUR FAITH-BASED COMMUNITY AND SCHOOL DISTRICTS, OUR COUNSEL, OUR COMMUNITY.

SO IT'S BEEN A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT OVER THE YEARS AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING.

WE'RE GETTING CAUGHT UP IN THE SOCIAL MEDIA WORLD AND GETTING ATTENTION AND MAYBE WE JUST SAY, HEY, IT'S AVAILABLE.

IF YOU NEED IT, CONTACT THE PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER AND HE WILL GET THAT INFORMATION.

>> UP TO THIS POINT, WE HAVE BEEN FUNCTIONING AS THREE SEPARATE ORGANIZATIONS.

(AWAY FROM MIC) INTERNALLY MAKEUP BETTER BECAUSE WE HAVE SOMEBODY DOING IT.

SO EVERY NEEDS TO -- EVERYONE NEEDS TO BE IN ONE CHANNEL.

THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANYTHING POINTING DIRECTLY TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THAT'S -- I'M TRYING TO MAKE A POINT THAT THE LEFT FOOT IS SHOOTING THE RIGHT FOOT I THINK IT'S ADDING TO THE NEGATIVE PERCEPTION, AND I'D RATHER FOCUS ON THE POSITIVE THINGS AND TO KEEP TRYING TO CLEAN UP THE PERCEPTION.

>> WE HAVE A SUCCESS STORY TO TELL, AND WE'VE TRIED AT TIMES AND THAT'S SOMETHING

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WE NEED TO FOCUS ON.

DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THIS?

>> I CAN KIND OF CONCUR ON THAT.

(AWAY FROM MIC).

WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE COULD STREAMLINE THAT.

(AWAY FROM MIC) THEY DON'T SEE THEM.

WE SEE THEM IN THE CAR.

(AWAY FROM MIC).

WE HAD THREE DIFFERENT MOTORCYCLE POLICE OFFICERS THAT CRUISE THE DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY.

YOU SEE THAT FROM THE WALLS.

IF WE COULD START POSITIONING THE MORE PEOPLE WILL SEE OUR POLICE OFFICERS.

THAT WILL SLOW PEOPLE DOWN TO GIVE RESIDENTS PAUSE.

(AWAY FROM MIC).

AT THE SAME TIME THEY DO NEED TO HAVE IT.

LIKE I SAID, THEY JUST DON'T SEE THEM.

THEY CORRECTED THE STOPLIGHT AND ARE WORRIED ABOUT HER WHATSOEVER BECAUSE THERE'S NOBODY THERE TO CATCH THEM.

(AWAY FROM MIC).

THE POLICE OFFICERS GOING TO BE SITTING THERE, YOU ARE ALWAYS LOOKING AT ALWAYS ALERT AND RESIDENTS ALWAYS KNOW THEY'RE THERE.

>> ONE COMPANY BRING UP AS A SUGGESTION.

(INDISCERNIBLE) SPEED ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS.

SO THAT HELPS SOME VISIBILITY BUT OFFICERS AS MUCH THEY ARE OUT AND ABOUT THE MORE THEY CAN BE OUT OF THE CARS WALKING OR BE INVISIBLE, I'M SURE THERE'S MORE WE CAN DO.

THAT'S A CLEAR ACTION ITEM THAT WOULD IMPROVE PUBLIC SAFETY.

>> I THINK PUBLIC SAFETY IN TERMS OF BEING INSIDE AND KEEPING ON TRAFFIC CONTROL.

I KNOW WE HAVE SO MANY THINGS THERE'S GONNA BE A POINT WHERE WE CONTROL (AWAY FROM MIC).

>> PLUS THE SEVEN CAR PILEUP WE JUST HAD THE OTHER DAY.

>> (AWAY FROM MIC).

>> LET ME KNOW THEY HAVE MORE.

WE SEE THEIR CRIME REPORTS, NOT THAT THEY PUBLISH THIS.

LAW ENFORCEMENT IS A PERCEPTION IS A REALITY.

EVEN IF YOU ARE SAFE, YOU PERCEIVE YOU ARE NOT, THEN YOU'VE GOT A PROBLEM.

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CHIEF, YOU PROBABLY WANT TO ADDRESS SOME OF THIS DISCUSSION, BUT THERE CERTAINLY IS A CONSENSUS AND PERHAPS OSCAR WANTS TO JUMP IN.

THERE MIGHT BE SOME MORE WE COULD DO TO HELP TELL OUR STORY.

>> I GUESS PERCEPTION STARTING WITH REALITY.

WE RARELY PUSH ANYTHING OUT WITHOUT THE MASK.

IF IT'S A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE LIKE WE ARE LOOKING FOR SOMEONE RENEWED THE PUBLIC'S HEALTH, THEN WE PRACTICALLY PUSH STUFF OUT.

GENERALLY AFTER HOURS WE ARE TEXTING EACH OTHER AFTER HOURS AND I'VE GOT A REQUEST FROM THE MEDIA.

SO WE DON'T TALK ABOUT IT.

YOU GUYS GET THE SIGNIFICANT REPORTS THAT I SENT DOWN, AND SOME OF THAT STUFF IS REPORTED IN SOME IS NOT.

OUR MEDIA DOESN'T GO AFTER STORIES IS ASKED US TO WRITE THEM OURSELVES SO WE ARE NOT PUSHING ANYTHING OUT JUST BECAUSE WE KNOW ABOUT IT.

>> WHAT SHOULD WE SAY TODAY BACK TO THE SUGGESTION WE ASK.

>> LAND WITH THE ANSWER CORRECT.

>> JUST SAY WE HAVE NO COMMENT.

>> THE KITTEN GOT STUCK IN THE TREE AND THE FIREFIGHTER THAT AMOUNT.

THAT'S ALL YOU HAVE TO DO.

>> WE DON'T DEAL WITH CATS AND TREES.

BUT LET'S SAY WE HAVE A STABBING SOMEWHERE AN IMMEDIATE SENSE, YOU KNOW,

>> IS UNDER INVESTIGATION.

THAT'S WHAT WE ALWAYS SAY.

>> WHAT DO YOU THINK THE THOUGHTS OF NOT.

>> AND WE DON'T TELL THEM WE KNOW, THEY ARE GOING TO MAKE IT UP.

AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH REMAINING SILENT THEY'RE GOING TO MAN ON THE STREET, WHAT DID YOU SAY?

>> (AWAY FROM MIC).

>> ON THAT FRUIT AND THE CHIEF AND I TALKED ABOUT IT, IF OFFICERS DID A REWRITE A LOT OF TICKETS AND SOMETIMES IT HAS AN IMPACT.

BUT ALSO HAS AN IMPACT AND SAYS YOU'VE BEEN ANOINTED A 55 AND 35.

AS THOUSANDS OF MESSAGE PEOPLE DRIVING BY AND SEE THE OFFICER PULLED OVER.

BROOKE HAS THE PERSPECTIVE FOR NUMBER OF REASONS.

WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE NEED TO KNOW BUT HISTORICALLY AND OTHERWISE IT SEEMS LIKE WE'VE GOT A STORY THAT ISN'T AS POSITIVE INGRAINED INTO THE VALLEY.

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>> I THINK THAT THE PROACTIVE PR COMPONENT OF IT IS REALLY VERY IMPORTANT WITHIN A VACUUM OF INFORMATION.

THE STORIES THAT ARE THE LOWEST HANGING FRUIT ARE THOSE THAT WILL GET THE MOST PLAY.

THAT'S CERTAINLY TRUE.

THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DOES A LOT VERY POSITIVE THINGS AND WE ARE SOMEWHAT REACTIVE WHEN IT COMES TO ISSUES WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT.

I DON'T KNOW NECESSARILY THAT WE HAD THE BREADTH TO BE ABLE TO PROACTIVELY TELL THOSE POSITIVE STORIES.

I THINK WE ARE TRYING TO DO THAT.

I MEAN, AS AN EXAMPLE, I THINK THERE WERE TWO VERY PARALLEL STORIES THAT CAME OUT IN THE PAPER WITHIN THE LAST FEW MONTHS.

REGARDING CRIME STATISTICS BETWEEN INDIO AND ANOTHER CITY, AND INDIO'S WAS QUITE NEGATIVE.

IF YOU GUYS RECALL THE STORY JUST CAME OUT A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO.

IT WAS ALMOST THE OPPOSITE STORY, EVEN THOUGH THE STATISTICS ARE REALLY NOT THAT DIFFERENT, THE HEADLINE MAKES IT APPEAR AS IF INDIO IS PROBLEMATIC IN OTHER CITIES OR NOT.

AND SO TO GET OUT AHEAD OF THOSE WOMEN OTHER ARE CRIME STATISTICS THAT ARE COMING OUT AND TO REALLY HIGHLIGHT AND PROMOTE THOSE PARTS OF IT THAT ARE POSITIVE, I THINK WILL PAY DIVIDENDS.

>> SO THERE ARE SOME RELATIONSHIP STRATEGIES WITHIN -- TO GIVE THAT REALITY.

YOU ARE REFERRING TO AN ARTICLE THIS PAST SUNDAY THAT HAD CRIME STATISTICS THAT WERE WERE THE TOTAL -- TONE WAS DIFFERENT.

>> IT WAS TOTALLY DIFFERENT AND WITH THAT WAS FOR THAT ARTICLE I'M NOT SURE.

THE ONES COMING UP FROM INDIO HAD TO DO WITH THE RELEASE OF THOSE NUMBERS.

BUT I DON'T KNOW WHY THE OTHER ARTICLE CAME OUT THIS PAST WEEKEND.

THERE ARE SOME ELEMENTS GETTING AT IS THAT WE KNOW WHAT OUR NUMBERS ARE.

WE PROVIDE THOSE NUMBERS TO THE FBI.

AND SO TO HAVE OUR OWN PERSPECTIVE ON THEM READY AND AVAILABLE TO TELL THE STORY BEFORE SOMEONE HAS THE CHANCE TO TELL IT FOR US, I THINK IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY WE SHOULD BE TAKING.

>> IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S SOME CONSENSUS ON THAT MATTER AND I WONDER IF COUNCILMEMBER ORTIZ MIGHT WANT TO CHIME IN ON THAT IDEA OF COMMUNITY PERCEPTION OR PUBLIC SAFETY.

>> ON OUTSIDE OF THE PERSPECTIVE, I THINK -- YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T CONTROL WHAT THE MEDIA IS GOING TO DO TOO MUCH AND THE CHIEF SAID IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING THEY WILL SPEND IT THEIR WAY.

I THINK IF WE GIVE OUT CONSISTENT DATA AND WE HAVE NUMBERS THAT WE CAN SHOW PEOPLE, I THINK THAT FELT A LITTLE BIT MORE TEST AND NOT JUST SHOWING THE GOOD NUMBERS BUT ALSO THE BACK.

IF WE'RE SHOWING BOTH SIDES OF IT, THEN WHEN WE -- WE ASKED THE COMMUNITY FOR EXTRA OFFICERS THEY SAY IT'S GOING SO WELL WHY WOULD YOU NEED EXTRA OFFICERS IF YOU ARE SAYING EVERYTHING IS A SAY.

IF WE SHARE ACCURATE INFORMATION CONSISTENTLY, I THINK THAT WOULD WORK WELL FOR US.

ON THE SIDE OF RACING, I THINK WE SPOKE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO ABOUT GETTING SOME CAMERAS THAT WILL BE STRATEGICALLY PLACED AROUND THE CITY AND MAYBE IF WE HAVE COMMON AREAS WHERE WE SEE A LOT OF RACING, THAT'S SOMEWHERE WE CAN PUT THOSE CAMERAS TO USE SO WE CAN SPOT SOME OF THE RACERS OUT THERE.

AND YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE IF THE SPEED BUMPS -- I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF REGULATIONS ON THIS WHERE THEY CAN GO AND WHERE THEY CANNOT GO BUT WE DO NEED TO LOOK AT THOSE BECAUSE WE GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE SPEEDING, ESPECIALLY AT NIGHT.

YOU CAN HEAR IT -- I WAS HEARING IT LAST NIGHT OR I THINK IT WAS SUNDAY NIGHT.

GET IT HERE THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THERE IS A DANGER OUT HERE.

I THINK THE SUGGESTIONS HERE DID A GOOD JOB BY THE CITY MANAGER AND OUR STAFF AND PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.

I THINK THERE'S GREAT SUGGESTIONS HERE.

ONE THING I SAW THAT I THINK IS MISSING IS ADDRESSING MENTAL HEALTH.

I THINK PART OF IT WITH THE QUALITY OF LIFE TEAM WE HAVE THE PAPER HEALTH CENTER BUT I THINK WE STILL NEED TO DO MORE ON THAT SIDE AND WE DO HAVE SOME GREAT NONPROFITS THAT ARE DOING GREAT WORK HERE AND I KNOW THE LATINO COMMISSION HAS A FEW HOMES WHERE THEY HOUSE PEOPLE AND THEY TAKE CARE PEOPLE AND WE NEVER HEAR ANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT THOSE HOMES BECAUSE THEY ARE WELL MANAGED.

IF WE LOOK AT SOME OF THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE WELL MANAGED AND THEIR NONPROFITS THAT THEY ARE DOING THE WORK DOWN HERE WE SHOULD LOOK AT SOME -- AND VESTING IN SOME OF THOSE PROGRAMS AS WELL.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANKS.

>> CITY MANAGER, I WANT TO PIGGYBACK ON THAT.

WHEN WE GO BACK, I THINK WE NEED TO REALLY CONVERSE WITH CHEESE AND COME UP WITH

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STRATEGIC WAYS THAT THEY SEE FIT THAT WOULD WORK AS FAR AS BEING PROACTIVE IN THIS AREA, YOU KNOW, IT'S -- I'VE SAT IN THAT SEAT BEFORE SO IT'S KIND OF HARD WHEN THAT'S NOT REALLY OUR EXPERTISE, BUT IF YOU HAVE THE CHIEF THAT SPECIALIZES IN INVESTIGATIONS THERE'S SOMETHING PROACTIVELY I THINK THAT CAN BE DONE THAT OUR P.D.

COULD FOCUS ON AND COME UP WITH AND BRING IT BACK TO US.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT SOME THINGS THAT MAY BE COMING FORWARD, BUT GOING TO THE MENTAL HEALTH AND QUALITY OF LIFE TEAM, WE HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT THESE THINGS BEFORE I SPOKE TO THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT THIS TODAY.

I THINK WE NEED TO FOCUS ON BEING A RESOURCE WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME TO, WHETHER IT'S ON THE WEBSITE, WHETHER IT'S A HOTLINE, WHETHER IT'S ON THE SOCIAL MEDIA WEEKLY PUTTING SOMETHING OUT AS IT PERTAINS TO HOMELESS SERVICES, MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES OUR NONPROFITS BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE ARE GOING TO BE THE MOST EFFECTIVE, POINTING FOLKS IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND SUPPORTING SOME OF THE THINGS ON THE BACK IN.

YOU HAVE THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CLINIC COMING ONLINE, BUT FOCUSING ON THAT IS KIND OF TOUGH.

FROM THE STAFF PERSPECTIVE HOW CAN STEP FOCUS ON THESE THINGS WE CAN BE THE RESOURCE OF THE COMMUNITY.

YOU CALL THIS HOTLINE THIS IS THE SERVICES WE HAVE AS FAR AS THE CITY OF INDIO AND OUR REGIONAL PARTNERS.

I CAN CALL THIS NUMBER OR GET ON THIS WEBSITE FOR ASSISTANCE.

>> WE SPOKE EARLIER AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE HUMAN SYSTEM.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE COUNTY CONTRACTS WITH UNITED WAY BUT IF YOU HAVE A SPECIAL SERVICES EMERGENCY YOU CAN CALL 211 OR ON THE WEBSITE AND FIND RESOURCES.

THAT'S ONE WAY TO FOCUS ON THAT.

BEFORE WE -- THERE'S A CONSENSUS AS WE DEVELOP AS PART OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN, A WORK PLAN ON FIGHTING THIS PERCEPTION OF THE NEGATIVE PERCEPTION OF CRIME IN INDIA.

IF WE INCLUDE THAT AS AN ACTION ITEM THAT WE FIND SOME PROACTIVE MARKETING PLAN AND STRATEGY?

>> I THINK WE NEED BETTER TRENCHING.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS, (AWAY FROM MIC).

>> I THINK WE'VE GOT A LOT BETTER COORDINATION ON THE IW A SITE.

IT'S BEEN HISTORIC WHAT BEN HAS DONE.

>> IT'S TIME TO END.

IT'S NOT WORKING.

>> I ACTUALLY THINK IT IS WORKING AND IT'S WORKING QUITE WELL.

SO WHEN MEDIA GETS HOLD OF THE DEAN CAN VERIFY THIS IS THE SUSPECT YOU HAVE? OUR RELATIONSHIPS DRIVE THE FACT THAT WE CONTACT THEM CAN YOU HOLD ONTO THAT STORY UNTIL WE GET SOMEBODY IN CUSTODY?

>> (AWAY FROM MIC).

IT'S AN ONGOING INVESTIGATION.

>> THAT CERTAINLY -- >> I GUESS I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SPECIFICS WOULD BE.

>> (AWAY FROM MIC).

IT GOES TO OUR INTEGRITY AND TRANSPARENCY QUICKLY CLOSE TO NEGATIVE PERCEPTION.

>> ANY OTHER TIME IN? WE ARE HERE TO TAKE YOUR DIRECTION.

I THINK THERE'S A BALANCE, PROBABLY.

>> THOSE ARE TWO EXTREMES.

>> IF IT IS TRUE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS A DIFFERENT FORM OF POLICING TYPICALLY THE NEW MUNICIPAL LAW ENFORCEMENT.

IF THEY ARE SOMEHOW BLOWN OFF THE MEDIA AND THE MEDIA IS USED TO THEM BEING OOH RAH, THEY DON'T FOLLOW UP WITH THEM ANYMORE, BUT WE HAVE RESPONDED SO THEY RESPOND TO US.

>> THEY HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH US.

>> TO GET THE JUICE.

>> (AWAY FROM MIC).

>> YOU HAVE TO GIVE THEM SOMETHING, BUT WOULD IT BE TOO COORDINATE WITH (AWAY

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FROM MIC) MARKETED ON ALL THREE SECTORS AND DEMAND THE CAPACITY TO DO THIS?

>> NO.

(AWAY FROM MIC).

IN THE RESPONSE MAY STILL BE (AWAY FROM MIC).

>> WE ARE STILL EVALUATING.

AND MAYBE OVER TIME DID YOU THINK OVER TIME THAT'S WITH THE RESPONSES AND I WILL END UP BEING (CROSS-TALK).

>> (AWAY FROM MIC).

>> I JUST THINK THAT WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL DATED THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE COORDINATION WITH OUR PIO FROM THE P.D.

AND WHICH WOULD BE BROOKE.

I CAN TELL YOU ON A NATIONAL LEVEL, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD POLITICIANS COME TO THE PODIUM AND START TALKING BECAUSE THEY ARE CHIEF TALKER PUT THAT INFORMATION OUT.

WE NOT ONLY PUT OUR STORY OUT BUT WE UTILIZE THEM AS WELL TO KEEP THAT PARTNERSHIP.

SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE ARE GOING TO DO THAT WITH ALL THREE SECTORS AND THE STAFFING THAT WE HAVE.

>> I THINK -- I THINK A FEW THINGS AND I THINK THERE IS A CONSENSUS THAT IT MAKES GOOD SENSE THAT WE COORDINATE THE PUBLIC INFORMATION EFFORTS, THAT WE FIND A BALANCE OF WHEN WE PROVIDE INFORMATION OR WHEN WE DON'T.

SOME DISCIPLINE FROM ALL OF US, INCLUDING MYSELF AND ELECTIVES WHEN THEY WERE APPROACHED BY THE MEDIA.

DRIVING BACK TO THE ONE SOURCE THAT LUPE IS REFERRING TO SO WE CAN GET THE SAME MESSAGE OUT OR NO MESSAGE AT ALL, NO COMMENT.

BECAUSE THERE IS A TEMPTATION WE ARE ASKED BY THE MEDIA TO SAY SOMETHING, AND PROBABLY HITS YOU GUYS MORE THAN ITS STAFF.

>> (AWAY FROM MIC).

>> IT'S WORKING AGAINST US.

>> (AWAY FROM MIC).

>> SORRY.

COULD YOU SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE? WE CAN'T REALLY HEAR ONLINE.

>> THANK YOU.

I GUESS MY COMMENT WAS I DON'T THINK -- I THINK WE NEED TO WORK A LITTLE HARDER ON THIS.

I THINK WE NEED TO FINE-TUNE IT.

I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD GO AS FAR AS TO LIMIT MAY BE BEN BUT HAVE MORE COMMUNICATION.

THERE'S NO PERSON IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT HAS A BIGGER HEART FOR THE CITY AND WANTS TO PROJECT NOTHING BUT POSITIVE COMPONENTS.

MAYBE SOME OF THAT NEEDS TO BE FINE-TUNED A LITTLE BIT AND FUNNELED SO THAT A DIFFERENT MESSAGE OR A DIFFERENT MANNER OR STYLE OR APPROACH TAKES PLACE.

>> I DON'T THINK (AWAY FROM MIC) AND HE DOES AN EXCELLENT JOB OF STAYING IN TOUCH WITH ALL OF OUR HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS.

HE HAS A GREAT ROLE.

I THINK THE PUBLIC INFORMATION ASPECT WAS JUST DUMPED ON HIM BECAUSE NOBODY ELSE WANTED TO DO IT.

>> WELL, I THINK WE HAVE GOT A GOOD FRAMEWORK FOR US TO DEVELOP A WORK PLAN TO ADD IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN WE WILL DEVELOP A WORK PLAN TO HELP FIGHT THIS PERCEPTION AND COME UP WITH BETTER WORDING OF STRATEGIES.

BUT YOU PROBABLY CAN'T READ MY SCRIBBLES, THESE ARE AS MUCH FOR ME AS THEY ARE FOR ANYBODY ELSE BUT POSITIVE MESSAGING THAT POSITIVE PR, MORE PUBLIC REACTION FROM THE OFFICERS, MORE VISIBILITY.

THE CAMERAS I MENTIONED THAT IT IS LISTED IN HERE BUT THE CAMERAS CAN PROVIDE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES TO HELP US IDENTIFY THOSE THAT MIGHT BE COMMITTING CRIMES OR EVEN INTO THE COMMUNITY, CONSOLIDATING OUR EFFORTS AMONGST THE DIFFERENT INFORMATION THAT'S GOING OUT.

WE CAN DEVELOP CAPTURE THIS OTHER SEGMENT -- WE DO HAVE AN ITEM TO CONTINUE AND MAYBE WE NEED TO PROVIDE DETAIL TO DATES.

>> I THINK OSCAR RAISED HIS HAND.

>> THE ONLY THING I WAS GOING TO SAY IS I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT THE CHIEF IS

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DOING BECAUSE I SEE A LOT OF SUPPORT.

I SEE LOTS OF TIMES WHEN THEY POST DIFFERENT CRIMES THAT THEY'VE SOLVED OR DIFFERENT PEOPLE -- WEAPONS THEY'VE TAKEN OFF THE STREETS, DO SEE A LOT OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM THOSE I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT.

>> (AWAY FROM MIC).

PEOPLE CSR IN THE COMMUNITY.

IT WILL GIVE THEM A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT IT IS.

(AWAY FROM MIC).

>> THE COMMUNITY DOES LEFT THE OFFICER.

THAT'S TRUE.

IT'S REASSURING MIGHT BE A GOOD SEGUE.

WE WILL WORK ON THIS PLAN.

I THINK THAT'S A GREAT STRATEGIC DISCUSSION TO HELP US IMPROVE PUBLIC SAFETY.

THE OTHER QUALITY OF LIFE, FOR EXAMPLE I'VE GONE ON TO MY LUNGS AND IS HE THE VIRTUE IN THE SUCCESS OF THAT UNIT AND AN EXAMPLE IS WE HAVE A SERGEANT OF OFFICERS P.D.

SO YOU SEE HOW IF IT IS A ZERO-SUM GAME AND WE WENT TO TDF RESOURCES WERE AS FINITE AS THEY PROBABLY ARE ON AN OPERATIONAL BASIS IS TRAFFIC CONTROL MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE QUALITY OF LIFE TEAM? DO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE OUR OFFICERS ARE RUNNING MORE TRAFFIC THAN THEY TYPICALLY ARE NOW? WILL THE CALL VOLUME ALLOW FOR THAT? IT JUST MAY BE A ZERO-SUM GAME.

THE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES AS WELL.

I'M A PURIST AND AS A CITY MANAGER IT MIGHT NOT SURPRISE YOU SOME OF THESE SERVICES ARE NOT TRADITIONAL MUNICIPAL SERVICES.

IT DOES NOT MEAN WE CAN BE PROGRESSIVE AND FIND NEW AND BETTER WAYS OF DOING THINGS.

BUT IF WE HIRED SOME MENTAL HEALTH FOLKS AND SO FORTH, THEY COULD GIVE US A GRANT WITH SOME OF THAT.

BUT IT WILL MEAN THAT IF WE SPENT $300,000 ON MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, THAT'S PROBABLY TWO POLICE OFFICERS THAT AREN'T ON THE STREET.

MAYBE THAT'S A FORCE MULTIPLIER AND MAYBE IT'S NOT.

YOU WILL SEE THAT DISCUSSION WAS REAL.

MAYBE BEFORE WE OPEN THAT UP, JUST QUICKLY WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE WAY WE ARE EVOLVING IN THAT REGARD?

>> IT KIND OF GOES BACK TO SOME OF THE MEDIA STUFF AS WELL.

PROBABLY ONCE A WEEK, SOMEONE AROUND THE NATION ASTOUNDING THIS PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE HAD HERE FOR A WHILE, WHICH IS (AWAY FROM MIC).

SO HAVING A MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL IN THE VEHICLE WITH THE OFFICERS HAS REALLY PAID BIG DIVIDENDS.

AND WE WANT TO KEEP THAT PROGRAM AND HOPEFULLY GET THE COUNTY TO PAY FOR IT.

BUT BECAUSE A LOT OF OUR EXCESSES THEY'VE EXPANDED THE PROGRAM AND ADDING NINE PROFESSIONALS ACROSS THE COUNTY.

I DON'T WANT TO SHARE BECAUSE THAT RELATIONSHIP WORKS WELL AND THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF THAT'S KIND OF OUTSIDE THAT SCOPE.

IN SOME RESOURCES THAT OUR OFFICERS DON'T HAVE.

IS THERE ANY COUNSEL COMMENT? IF WE CONTINUE TO GET THE FUNDING JD FUNDING FOR HOMELESSNESS, MENTAL HEALTH SOCIAL SERVICES, UNLESS YOU ARE A VERY LARGE CITY, ALMOST ALL OF THAT GOES TO THE COUNTY.

IT'S AN IDEA TRIED TO GET MORE RESOURCES FROM THE COUNTY.

IF OUR GREAT HOW TO MAKE IT THE CANTEEN TO HELP PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE -- BACKFILL THAT RESOURCE.

BECAUSE IT'S HUNDRED AND $70,000 -- SO WHEN THAT'S EXHAUSTED, WHAT DO WE DO?

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>> ECHOES BACK TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE, BUT I THINK ALL OF THESE THINGS CAN GO BACK WHETHER IT'S TRAFFIC OFFICERS OR THE QUALITY OF LIFE TEAM OR MENTAL HEALTH.

IT GOES BACK TO FINDING THE BALANCE I THINK WE'VE DONE AN EXTRAORDINARY JOB WITH OUR QUALITY OF LIFE TEAM.

I CAN TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES I HAVE TO EXPLAIN THAT THEY EXIST AND WHAT THEY DO AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

AND HAVING THAT PERSON TO ASSIST FROM THE MENTAL HEALTH PERSPECTIVE AND BEYOND IS HUGE.

BUT WE NEED SOME TRAFFIC COPS GOT THERE.

WE NEED SOME OFFICERS THAT CAN BE MORE VISIBLE, AND I THINK THAT IS ENORMOUS.

THAT'S NOT A COMMENT GETTING WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE NEED MORE IN ORDER TO HAVE THEM BE MORE VISIBLE OUT THERE AND SOME OF THE TRAFFIC ISSUES THAT I SEE ARE SIGNIFICANT AND EVERYTHING HAS TO BE A BALANCE AND NOTHING IS GOING TO BE A PERCEPTION.

>> I THINK WHAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO US IS, LIKE I SAID, LET THE CHIEF GO BACK.

I MET WITH THE CHIEF THIS IS THAT SHE IS ON SOME OF THIS BEFORE ESPECIALLY TRAFFIC BECAUSE IT'S DANGEROUS OUT THERE, BUT THERE ARE STRATEGIES AND WAYS HOW TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES WITHOUT THE MANPOWER RIGHT NOW.

AND I THINK THE CHIEF COULD PROBABLY ELABORATE ON THAT MORNING, BUT THERE'S THINGS THAT WE CAN UTILIZE TO WORK ON THAT UNTIL WE DO HAVE THE VISIBLE MANPOWER OR REDO OPERATIONS, AND NO, BUT THAT'S OUT OF MY REALM IN THIS CONVERSATION.

BUT I THINK THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN ENTERTAIN.

NOW, WHEN IT COMES TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN EXPAND ON THE BEHAVIOR HEALTH THERAPISTS.

I CALLED 9-1-1 MYSELF WITH THE TRANSIENT IN OUR QUALITY OF LIFE TEAM SHOWED UP.

I WATCHED HER WORK AND THEY DO AN EXCELLENT JOB AND IF WE WANT TO HAVE A SIDEBAR OR SOMETHING WITH OUR QUALITY OF LIFE TEAM AND OUR CHIEF IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO HEAR FROM THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE ON THE FRONT LINES OF DEALING WITH SOME OF THE THINGS BECAUSE SOME OF THESE ISSUES ARE TODAY CONVERSATION TERM COMFORTABLE TO HAVE THE PUBLIC BUT THE PUBLIC HAS TO ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT OUR OFFICERS ARE DEALING WITH THEM YOU'RE GOING TO PARKS OR WE'RE GOING TO THE FRONT OF THE BUSINESS.

OUR MAYOR IS A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER.

THERE ARE FOLKS THAT ARE HOUSING RELUCTANT TO WANT TO HELP AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE TEAM HAS TO DEAL WITH THESE FOLKS ON A DAILY BASIS.

MEANWHILE, OUR RESIDENTS ARE CALLING US AND THEY ARE CALLING THE CITY ABOUT SOMEONE WHO IS CAMPED OUT AT AN ENCAMPMENT IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND OUR QUALITY OF LIFE TEAM HAS TO DO WITH THIS, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY THEY REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY TRACTION BECAUSE OF LAWS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT IN OUR CITY FROM A HOLISTIC WAY, HOW WE CAN ADDRESS SOME OF THESE ISSUES.

>> THANKS FOR SAYING THAT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE TOOLS.

THESE FOLKS DO AN AMAZING JOB WITHOUT HAVING ALL THE TOOLS TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.

>> I THINK GIVE YOU SOME MORE REGULAR REPORTS WHETHER THAT'S A QUARTERLY REPORT TO SHOW THE PUBLIC WHAT WE'RE DOING, I KNOW -- WITH BEAS HELP LEAD THE CHARGE BUT AS A NEWCOMER I SEE THE INFLUX OF HOMELESSNESS.

I'VE BEEN ON THE RIGHT ALONG WITH THE RESCUE MISSION WHEN I WAS IN THE PARK, THOSE FOLKS THAT THEY WERE DROPPED OFF BY PALM SPRINGS PD.

WHETHER THEY WERE TELLING ME A STORY OR NOT, SO WHY DID HE WE'VE GOT THE FACILITIES HERE.

THAT'S THE JUSTIFICATION.

WHY ARE WE SPENDING ALL OF THIS MONEY TO HANDLE THE VALLEY WIDE PROBLEM? AN NMC BACK AS AN EFFORT BUT WOULD SEEM TO ME AS A NEWCOMER BEING VERY NAïVE JUMPING INTO HORNETS NEST, PROBABLY, WHERE THE OTHER CITIES PARTICIPATING FINANCIALLY MORE IN THIS EFFORT?

>> WE ARE GETTING THERE.

WE'RE GETTING THERE.

AND I CAN SAY THIS HONESTLY, COUNCILMEMBER, WE REALLY KIND OF PUSHED US A FEW YEARS BACK AND I THINK THAT STARTED THE MACHINE GOING, AND THERE'S MORE SERVICES COMING IN PALM SPRINGS AND HAVE TRADITIONAL THINGS GOING ON IN PALM SPRINGS.

STEVE HAS TRADITIONAL HOUSING AND THEY ALSO HAVE THE CB 200 AND I THINK WORKING WITH C BACK AND OUR QUALITY OF LIFE TEAM WITH IDENTIFY THOSE FOLKS WERE ACTUALLY FROM THE CITY OF INDIA AND LET'S TARGET THEM.

BUT WE DO HAVE FOLKS TO TRAVEL UP AND DOWN THE VALLEY.

YOU COULD BE IN INDIO ONE DAY DOWNTOWN GRABBING COFFEE AND TOMORROW GO UP TO PALM SPRINGS IN THAT SAME PERSON WILL BE THERE.

THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PIECES.

THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PIECES BUT HOW CAN WE COLLABORATIVELY WORK TO TARGET THE FOLKS FROM INDIA AND GET THEM THE SERVICES? BUT IT ALL BOILS DOWN TO THE MANPOWER AND THE TIME TO DO WE HAVE THE CAPACITY TO DO

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THESE THINGS? IT IS TO SOME EXTENT A HORNETS NEST.

IT'S SOMETHING I'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS.

LAST TIME I WAS ON THE HOMELESSNESS COMMITTEE WAS IN TORONTO SO WE WOULD GIVE $100,000 BUT WE WILL GIVE IT TO INDIA.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE DARNED IF YOU DO AND DARNED IF YOU DON'T.

YOU SUPPORT THE SERVICES AND YET AT THE SAME TIME, AS WE SUPPORT THE SERVICES AND THEY ENHANCE OUR SERVICES, THEN WE HAVE MORE COMING.

WHEN I READ THE ARTICLE IN THE PAPER, I RENT THERE'S GOING TO BE A CITIZENS GROUP AND PALM SPRINGS THAT ARE GOING TO DEAL WITH THE HOMELESS.

I AM AFRAID TO DEATH OF WHAT THAT MEANS.

WHICH THE ANSWER IS GOING TO BE THE CITY OF INDIA BECAUSE THE CITY OF PALM SPRINGS AND OTHER COMMUNITIES, I WILL GIVE THE DUE TO CATHEDRAL CITY WHO HAS TRIED.

THEY HAVE TRIED BUT NOBODY WANTS IT.

NOT MY BACKYARD.

WE WERE JUST MORE MONEY TO THE CITY OF INDIO AND THEY WILL CONTINUE TO GROW AND WILL JUST GROW RESCUE MISSION AND WILL GROW MARTHA'S KNOWLEDGE AND MORE PEOPLE WILL COME AND PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THE RESOURCES IT TAKES, THE POLICE RESOURCES, ET CETERA.

>> TALKING ABOUT PERCEPTION IS AN INCOME OR DID HE NEWCOMER, THEY MAY NOT BE PRESENT -- COMMITTING A CRIME BUT IT DOESN'T HELP THE PERCEPTION TO SEE SO MANY HOMELESS.

PARTICULARLY LATE AT NIGHT.

>> EVEN PALM SPRINGS, THEY RECENTLY JUST APPROVED THE WRAPAROUND FACILITY IN NORTH PALM SPRINGS.

THAT'S AFTER YEARS OF PUSHING, SO THERE IS TRACTION THERE.

NONETHELESS BEING THE SECOND SEED OF THE COUNTY AND HAVING A LOT OF SOCIAL SERVICES HERE AND HAVING THE WELL ESTABLISHED RESCUE MISSION FOLKS GRAVITATE TOWARDS INDIO.

NOW, HOW CAN WE WORK WITH THEM? AND I THINK THOSE ARE CONVERSATIONS WE NEED TO HAVE AT THE COMMUNITY, OUR COUNSEL, AND START IDENTIFYING FOLKS WHO ARE THERE AND WHAT ARE THEIR EXACT ISSUES? WHY ARE THEY ON THE STREET AND WHY DO YOU -- DO YOU WANT HELP? AND IF YOU TALK TO OUR QUALITY OF LIFE TEAM, THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE ENCOUNTERING AND THE CHRONIC HOMELESSNESS WE HAVE THE EVERYDAY FOLKS PEOPLE ARE SAYING ON THE STREET ARE NOT FUNCTIONING HIS SERVICES.

THOSE ARE FOLKS WHO HAVE SOME CHALLENGES, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S MENTAL ILLNESS OR SUBSTANCE ABUSE OR ALCOHOL OR JUST RUNNING FROM THE SITUATION.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO REALLY BE HOME FOR RESOURCES WHERE WE CAN START GETTING THESE FOLKS OUT.

>> ONE THING I SUGGEST IS I'M NOT SURE AND TALKING WITH THE SERGEANT AND OTHERS, WE DON'T HAVE A VERY GOOD CASE MANAGEMENT DATABASE PERHAPS OUR NEW SYSTEM WILL ALLOW THAT, BUT WE IDENTIFY, YOU KNOW, JASON JOHNSON THAT'S THE HOMELESS PERSON.

HE IS FROM IOWA AND WE CONTACTED HIM AT 2:15 ON 30 NOVEMBER.

THAT'S IN THE FILE.

THERE IS THIS DOCUMENTATION WORKING FROM THERE IS THE NEXT OF KIN AND THE CELL PHONE NUMBER.

WE DOCUMENTED AND SOMETIMES THAT CASE MANAGEMENT HELP THEM GET THE SERVICES OR IF THEY PASS AWAY WE KNOW WHO TO CONTACT WHAT COUNTY HAS THAT SYSTEM I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WOULD ALLOW THE PUBLIC SAFETY.

>> THEY DON'T DO IT.

HUD HAS A GREAT SYSTEM THAT CYNTHIA CAN TAP INTO BUT WE CANNOT.

BUT BECAUSE WE ARE PARTNERS FERMON.

WE HAVE TO CREATE OUR OWN BUT I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE SOME DATABASE THAT WE CAN TRACK IN GOOGLE GOOGLE DOCS, FOR THAT MATTER.

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY THE NONPROFIT ACTS AS THAT BECAUSE THEY RECEIVE FUNDING AS PART OF COMPLIANCE WITH LET'S PUT A LITTLE MORE DETAIL INTO OUR QUALITY OF LIFE STRATEGIC EFFORT.

IT'S A WORK PLAN IS A SUBSET OF MAKING SURE WE ARE FOCUSING ON THAT.

OTHER OTHER THINGS IN PUBLIC SAFETY THAT WE COULD BE DOING THAT WITH ENHANCE OUR EFFORTS?

>> CITY MANAGER, IF I CAN, I HAVE TO ASK IF THE CHIEF COULD GO BACK AND JASON GO BACK AND COME BACK TO US WITH -- AND FIRE ON WHAT TO THEY NEED FROM US.

THERE THE EXPERTS OF WHAT'S GOING ON OUT THERE.

>> IS A GREAT SEGUE BECAUSE WHAT YOU SEE IN THIS LIST AND I -- YOU MIGHT WANT TO CHEW ON THE SQUARE.

DOESN'T MEAN IT'S ALL-INCLUSIVE.

THERE MANY OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN DO OR ARE DOING BUT THAT IS THE RECOMMENDATION HERE IF WE DO SOME OF THESE THINGS, WE WILL IMPROVE OUR CAPACITY AND AREA PUBLIC SAFETY.

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I THINK THE ONE THING -- MAY BE DID YOU KNOW IF YOU HAVE A MICROPHONE NEXT YEAR.

WE AREN'T TALKING TOO MUCH ABOUT FINANCES RIGHT NOW WE DO TALK ABOUT ADDITIONAL STAFF, WE DON'T HAVE ADDITIONAL REVENUE, WHAT YOUR BEST ESTIMATE? IT'S A GOOD REMINDER.

ON AN OPERATIONAL BASIS, A REGION WITH WHAT WE ARE SPENDING ON OPERATIONS AND WHAT WE ARE BRINGING ON REVENUES THAT ARE OCCURRING.

>> IT SEEMS LIKE A LONG TIME AGO WE TALKED ABOUT THE BUDGET WE ARE NOT QUITE HAVE WAITED THIS FISCAL YEAR SO WE KIND OF GOT LOST IN THE CONCEPT OF WHEN THE ONE-TIME MONEY IS COMING IN BUT WE FORGOT ABOUT THE FACT WE'RE LEANING HEAVILY INTO MEASURE X FOR THIS YEAR FOR ONGOING OPERATIONAL COSTS AND I WOULD SUSPECT BASED ON PRELIMINARY WE SPENT $2 MILLION IN OPERATIONAL COSTS THEY USE IT AS A STOPPER BUT IF WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO PURCHASE SOME OF THESE THINGS, WE ARE HONESTLY GOING TO HAVE TO REPRIORITIZE A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN ADDING 4 TO 5 OFFICERS EACH YEAR.

THERE ARE SOME THINGS WE'VE BEEN ADDING ON.

WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO FOCUS OUR PRIORITIES SPECIFICALLY ON THE ONGOING OPERATIONAL PIECES REALLY HAVE A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY.

IT'S JUST ONE TIME WE HAVE A LOT OF MEASURE X MONEY SAVED.

ONE-TIME MONEY FOR PRIOR YEARS WE DIDN'T SPEND WE HAVE $29 ONE-TIME MONEY FROM THE FUNDS SO REALLY, IF WE CAN FOCUS ON ONE-TIME STRATEGIES, THINK WE HAVE A LOT MORE FLEXIBILITY THERE THAN FOCUSING ON THE PRIORITIES BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE A DESCRIPTION CITY TRAFFIC OR QUALITY OF LIFE.

SOME OF US FEEL LIKE WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT DISCUSSION.

ONE IS EASIER TO HAVE ABOUT THE ONE-TIME NEEDS AND THEN THE OPERATIONAL NEEDS ARE GOING TO BE MORE DIFFICULT CONVERSATIONS.

>> (AWAY FROM MIC).

>> THE SOONER WE CAN FINE-TUNE OUR OPERATIONAL NEEDS, WE COULD BE OUT NEXT YEAR.

>> (AWAY FROM MIC).

>> WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DISCIPLINE OURSELVES.

>> (AWAY FROM MIC).

>> I DO KNOW FROM 2017/18 TO TODAY WE ADDED SOMETHING -- 20 SOME POSITION SO TO STOP THE BLEEDING WE SHOULD QUIT ADDING POSITIONS.

THERE IS THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS.

I THINK AS WE START GETTING INTO OUR NEXT MEETING AND WE START PRICING THESE OPERATIONAL ISSUES OUT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TOUGH DECISIONS BECAUSE IT'S NOT THE ONE TIME YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

OR -- AND I WILL USE JASON AS YOU KNOW WE ARE COMING THROUGH WITH A FEW RESOLUTION IF THE FEES ARE SUBSTANTIAL ENOUGH WE ARE ABLE TO OFFSET THE COST OF ADDITIONAL STAFF.

WHEN I ARRIVED IT WAS A LITTLE PUZZLED ON HOW WE PRICE OUR PLANNING AND BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATIONS.

THERE'S AN INCENTIVE THERE, BUT WE ARE RECOVERING OUR COSTS.

AND SO IT'S A TRUE -- WE ARE ALREADY STRUCTURALLY DEVASTATED BY HOW WE STRUCTURE OUR REVENUE SOURCE.

SO IF YOU WANT TO ADD FOUR OR FIVE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS BUT WE ONLY WENT TO RAISE THE FEE TO COVER TWO, WE JUST CREATED A DEEPER STRUCTURAL DEFICIT.

THOSE OF THE TOUGH DECISIONS.

AND AS YOU ARE CITY MANAGER, I WILL GIVE YOU THE UNVARNISHED TRUTH, NOT THE 11 ARTICLE 4, WE WILL HAVE TO DISCIPLINE IT BEFORE.

THAT'S THE NEXT STEP.

IF THERE ARE OPERATIONAL COSTS, JUST KNOW IF THERE ARE COSTS WE BETTER FIND AN UPSETTING SOMEWHERE WE'RE DIGGING A DEEPER HOLE.

PUBLIC SAFETY IS OUR MOST CRITICAL BUT ARE THERE SOME OTHER THINGS? I MENTIONED THE SDR.

GIVEN GOING THROUGH THE CODE ENFORCEMENT TEAM INCREASING THE ENFORCEMENT PROCESS

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PURSUANT AS YOU CONSIDER IT AGAIN TOMORROW WILL BE CRITICAL, FINDING THE REVENUES TO PRODUCE THE STAFF.

ANYTHING ELSE THAT COMES TO MIND? WITHOUT THE FIRE TEAM AND YOU WILL SEE SPECIFIC ITEMS AS DAVE INDICATED THAT THEY HAVE CHYNA TILLMAN ON WE NEED TO UPGRADE OUR EQUIPMENT OUR VEHICLES, AMBULANCES.

PRAYERFUL FORTUNATE TO HAVE FULL-TIME OPERATIONS COORDINATOR THAT HELPS US ON THAT FRONT.

BUT IF NOT, WE CAN PROBABLY MOVE ON TO THE TOPIC KNOWING THERE IS STILL ROOM FOR DISCUSSION.

WE WANT TO ADD MORE REVENUES TO OUR FLOW TO HELP WITH THAT DEFICIT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS ONE OF THOSE AREAS.

SOMEONE'S GOT TO HELPED ME.

I THINK IT TAKES A PHD TO GET THAT OFF.

HOW ARE WE DOING ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

NOT JUST RETAIL GROWTH BUT OUR JOB PRODUCING -- I THINK THE STAIRS OFF BUT -- >> BEFORE WE MOVE ON, I JUST WANT TO ECHO SOME OF THE COMMENTS EARLIER.

I WANT TO THANK THE CHIEF AND CODE ENFORCEMENT FOR WHAT THEY DO THE THINGS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WE ARE REALLY PICKING UP SOME THINGS BUT OVERALL, OUR SERVICES ARE EXCELLENT IN THE CITY OF INDIO, AND I WANT TO THANK YOU AND WE HAVE STAFF AND CREW MEMBERS WATCHING THIS AND THANK THEM FOR THE WORK THEY ARE DOING ESPECIALLY THEIR WORK FOR BEING ON THE FRONT LINES IN DEALING WITH THESE FOLKS KNOWING THAT THIS INVISIBLE ILLNESS WAS OUT THERE.

SO JUST THANK YOU.

>> (AWAY FROM MIC).

>> SO HOW DO WE ATTRACT AND RETAIN BUSINESSES ENCOURAGING QUALITY RETAIL? FACILITATING THE JOBS, THE QUEER PRODUCING INDUSTRIES TO INDIO? THIS IS AN EXAMPLE WHERE WE THINK WE NEED TO BRING BACK TO A SPECIFIC WORK PLAN.

I'VE GONE BACK AND READ SOME FROM PREVIOUS YEARS AND THEY ARE FAIRLY -- 30,000 FOOT LEVEL VIEWS, BUT THAT'S ONE SUGGESTION HERE.

THERE'S SOME GOALS SET HERE AND SOME OF THE SUGGESTED ITEMS RELATED TO OUTREACHING, FOR EXAMPLE, TO OUR HIGHEST GENERATORS OF RETAIL SALES TAX OR COMMUNICATING WITH THEM WAS GOING WELL AND HOW CAN WE ASSESS AND HOW CAN WE HELP YOU EXPAND ON SOME OF THE BEST ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS WITH EXISTING BUSINESSES TO HELP THEM GROW RATHER THAN TRYING TO ALWAYS ATTRACT.

THAT'S THE RETENTION EFFORT, AGAIN, NOT HURTING ANYONE'S FEELINGS IF WE HAD AND CARL AND KEVIN MIGHT WANT TO CHIME IN BUT WHAT ARE SOME THINGS WE CAN DO TO HELP IMPROVE OUR EFFORTS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, SOME TASKS.

>> YOU KNOW, PART OF -- I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT THE MORE THAT OUR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL -- YOU KNOW, WHEN POWER MOVED AND NOT PROVIDED, AT THE TIME, UP TO 150 JOBS AND PERHAPS EVEN MORE.

AND THOSE JOBS WERE AT EVERY LEVEL FROM ADMINISTRATIVE TO SALES TO TECHNICAL, IT REALLY WAS EVERY LEVEL AND THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GROW AND THAT NOT TO LITTLE COMPANY.

OUR ABILITY TO ATTRACT LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ALLOWS FOR MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR JOBS, FOR TECHNICAL TRAINING, FOR EDUCATION, BUT IN ORDER TO GET SOME OF THAT LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, WE ALL KNOW, WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO GET SOME POWER INCOME AND I JUST FEEL SITTING ON THE BOARD -- AVENUE, GLENN, YOU DO AS WELL, AND TO BITE THE BULLET OR FIND A WAY TO BRING POWER TO THE COMMUNITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WILL BE VERY DIFFICULT.

>> AND CARL WANT TO SPEAK TO THE MAJESTIC EXAMPLE.

IF THEY DO A FULL BUILDOUT THAT COULD BE TWO OR 3000 JOBS POTENTIALLY WITH THAT ENCOURAGE THEIR BEING ASKED TO INSTALL A SUBSTATION OF $18-$20 WHICH THEY NEED FOR $5 MILLION WORTH THERE.

>> SO AS ALL OF YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME POWER ISSUES IN OUR CITY WITH RESPECT TO INFRASTRUCTURE.

KEVIN AND I HAVE ENCOUNTERED, ALONG WITH BRIAN SEVERAL EXAMPLES IN OUR CITY WERE YOU SEE ON INDIO LABORDE MAJESTIC INDUSTRIAL PARK COMING ALONG

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INDIO BOULEVARD AND THEN ACROSS THE STREET IN NORTHGATE THERE IS ANOTHER 40 ACRES BUT THEY CAN'T YOU CAN HELP FACILITATE WITH OUR ID CODES AND WE ALSO HAVE AN ISSUE UP NORTH INDIO WITH THE LARGE PROJECTS COMING ONLINE, LARGE POTENTIAL PROJECTS BUT ALSO AS MANY OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS KNOW, WE ARE WORKING WITH DH PROPERTIES IS A LARGE PROPERTY OF NORTHWEST OF MONROE AND THEY HAVE NOW TIED UP AN ADDITIONAL 60 ACRES AND WE ARE HELPING FACILITATE A ZONING CHANGE AFTER THAT WILL ALLOW AND FACILITATE THE FILM CENTER ADDITIONAL JOBS DEVELOPMENT OF THE KNOT AREA.

THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS WE CAN DO AS A CITY STAFF, AS A CITY TEAM TO HELP FACILITATE AND CREATE MORE JOBS AND MORE OPPORTUNITY.

>> AND THIS IS GOING TO SOUND CASTING AND I DON'T MEAN IT TO IS THAT MOVING THE NEEDLE FORWARD IN A TIMELY FASHION? I DON'T WANT TO BE HERE 20 YEARS FROM NOW AND SAY GOSH, WHAT HAPPENED? WE CAN POWER.

SO I GUESS MY QUESTION, TO THE REST OF MY COUNSEL, IS IS THERE A WAY TO INVEST IN POWER WERE TO FRONT THAT INVESTMENT AND IF THERE IS WHAT IS THE NET GAIN BY THEN BRINGING SOME OF THIS BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY IN AND DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?

>> (AWAY FROM MIC).

>> THE OLD RDA (CROSS-TALK).

>> (AWAY FROM MIC).

>> IF WE HAVE THIS VACANT PROPERTY OF HER ABLE TO GET THE TAX ENTITIES TO AGREE THERE'S NO TAX INCREASE.

THAT'S WHY THEY'RE WILLING TO GIVE UP SOME OF THEIR REVENUE.

>> (AWAY FROM MIC) THE MAYOR'S POINT ABOUT UPDATING SUBSTATION BABY STEPS TOWARDS HELPING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT YOU NEED TO SPEND THAT $20 MILLION FOR YOUR SUBSTATION BUT WE WILL LET YOU GET REIMBURSED OVER TIME.

RIGHT NOW I WANT TO LIMIT IT TO SEVEN YEARS WHICH MEANS ANYONE ELSE WANTS TO TIE IN WILL WAIT SEVEN YEARS IN ONE DAY SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO REIMBURSE.

IT'S NOT SMART.

>> (AWAY FROM MIC) MY CONVERSATION TODAY WAS TO HAVE TO BUY THESE TRANSFORMERS IN ADVANCE? WE NEED TO PUT THE MONEY SO YOU CAN GET THESE THINGS ORDERED AND CANNOT THERE NOT JUST ON AMAZON.

>> (AWAY FROM MIC).

>> IF WE DON'T GET LEVERAGE LEGISLATION ON THIS MATTER IS PROBABLY THE BEST LEVERAGE.

AS A WILLINGNESS IF WE HAD TO UPFRONT SOME OF THIS ONE-TIME MONEY BECAUSE WE WOULD BE THE ONES REIMBURSE RATHER THAN MAJESTIC SO WE PUT THE 10 OR 15 MILLION

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DOWN AND THEY PUT THEIR FIVE NOT ONLY COLLECT AND HOPE DEVELOPMENT HAPPENS AND WE GET REIMBURSED.

>> (AWAY FROM MIC) SENT AN.

>> IF THERE WAS CAPACITY, THE JAIL TOOK CAPACITY THE ARENA THAT'S BEEN BUILT.

>> (AWAY FROM MIC).

OUR BIGGEST IMPEDIMENT IS ELECTRICITY.

AND THAT'S A SHAME.

OTHER EFFORTS THAT WE COULD -- THERE'S A LIST THAT WE DON'T GET TO GO THROUGH SPECIFICALLY BUT IF SOMETHING COMES TO MIND THAT WE ARE DOING THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING?

>> (AWAY FROM MIC).

>> BROADBAND IS CERTAINLY PART OF THAT.

THAT MEETING IS TOMORROW.

>> (AWAY FROM MIC).

>> ONE BUILD SOMETHING WE HAVE THE MONEY TO MAINTAIN IT BUT WE DO HAVE ONE-TIME MONEY AVAILABLE AT THE NEXT MEETING, WE WILL GET BACK TO PRIORITIZING THE PROGRESS.

(AWAY FROM MIC).

>> HOW ABOUT COMMUNITY INFRASTRUCTURE.

PRIORITIES, BRIDGES, MONROE JACKSON.

THE OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE WITH THE FINANCING LOW INTEREST RATES AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONSIDER OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE SUCH AS THE LIBRARY, MAYBE AN UPGRADE OF THE CLUBHOUSE IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE WILL GET THE GRANT FOR THE PROJECT ON MARKET STREET BUT WE MAYBE PUT A STRETCH OF GRASS AND SOME OF THIS CAN BE WORKED INTO THE FINANCING.

WE ARE NOT SURE THE SUBSTATIONS COULD BE BECAUSE IT WOULDN'T BE OUR ASSETS IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO EVALUATE.

ORDER COUNSEL'S.IT INFRASTRUCTURE.

>> MEASURE ASKED, WE ARE EXPANDING AT THIS YEAR TO CATCH UP FOR LAST YEAR, A TICKET FOR A HALF-MILLION A YEAR THAT IS OUR TYPICAL MANAGEMENT GOAL.

HE WANTS MORE BUT BORN HALF-MILLION IS BETTER -- EVERY YEAR WE HAD THAT.

THAT WAS YOUR MEASURE AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING UP TO THAT AND IF WE'RE NOT CAREFUL IF OUR STRUCTURAL DEFICIT ROSE WE WON'T BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT COMMITMENT.

WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON COMMUNITY INFRASTRUCTURE?

>> (AWAY FROM MIC).

THERE'S HOT SPRINGS AND COACHELLA.

WHAT IS THE COUNTY ABLE TO PROVIDE FUNDING FOR SOME OF THE CITIES THEY SPENT A LOT OF MONEY.

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I THINK IT'S AN ASSET TO US.

I THINK THAT COUNTY NEEDS TO STEP UP AND GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY AND I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE TRANSPORTATION CENTER IF WE'RE GOING TO START THEM TONY SLOCUM WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IN THAT BUILDING.

WE WILL PROVIDE THEM A STATE-OF-THE-ART FACILITY WITH AMENITIES (AWAY FROM MIC) WE WANTED TO HAVE THE TRANSPORTATION CENTER DONE.

I DON'T A LOT OF FUNDING.

>> MY INITIAL DISCUSSION ON THAT FRONT, AGAIN, BEING NEW PUBLIC HEALTH IN THE BACK OF THEIR MINDS IS THE STAFF.

WHEN THEY GAVE US THE BUILDING AND THE LAND FOR A DOLLAR, THEY THINK THEY MET THAT COMMITMENT.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN I CAN'T REDIRECT STAFF ON THAT MINDSET BUT THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE THINKING THOUGHTS I WILL GET MONROE AND DOC IF THEY GIVE US LIBRARY.

>> THE CONVERSATION (AWAY FROM MIC).

IF WE ARE GOING TO GET DOWN TO 1.25 MILLION WE WILL HAVE TO LOOK IT REALLY IS GOING TO BE A GOOD PORTION OF IT AND WE CAN KEEP THROWING DARTS AT IT.

IT'S GOT TO BE THIS IS IT AND THIS IS THE WAY WE ARE GOING TO ROLL AND IF NOT WE ARE GOING DID YOU HAVE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE MONEY TO DO IT.

THEN WE HAVE TO CLEAR THAT WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT A WAY IT'S GOING TO BE ZERO.

>> I THINK WE'VE HAD MORE TRACTION (AWAY FROM MIC).

>> THEIR SPACE IN THERE FOR THAT.

(AWAY FROM MIC) IT HAS BEEN PRIMED FOR THAT FOR FIVE YEARS THAT THE STATE AND THE FEDS.

IT'S NOT A BIG THING BUT WE ARE THINKING WE STILL NEED TO DO THAT IDEA WE NEED TO TAKE OWNERSHIP.

>> YES.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHY BUT THAT IN.

I'VE BEEN TRYING FOR SO LONG.

>> I AGREE.

>> WE HAVE ABOUT HALF OF THEM NOW.

>> TIM HAS AN INVENTORY.

>> I DID LEARN WHOEVER TOLD ME, MAYBE IT WAS YOU WE WENT TO LAD, YOUR ANNUAL OR MONTHLY TARIFF GETS CUT IN HALF WILL ONLY ASK THAT THEY ADJUSTED THEIR FEE AND NOW

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WE ARE PAYING MORE THAN WE DID WHICH USES LESS POWER.

ANOTHER ID.

>> WE HAD LONG CONVERSATIONS.

>> (AWAY FROM MIC).

YOU KNOW, HOW IT NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED FROM THE DETENTION CENTER AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THIS A REAL PROJECT THAT STILL IN TIER 1, BUT WHAT CAN THEY DO? THIS IS LONG-TERM.

WHAT CAN WE DO TO START GETTING READY FOR THAT? MAYBE SOME IMPROVEMENTS DOWN THERE AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE TRANSPORTATION CENTER, DOING SOMETHING THERE.

WE HAVE A LOT OF LAND THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE COULD DO COST-EFFECTIVELY IN PREPARATION IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS TO PUT THAT ON THE RADAR AS WELL BECAUSE WITH TRANSPORTATION, IT'S GOING TO BE OPTIMAL TO GET FOLKS INTO OUR COMMUNITY FOR OUR DOWNTOWN AREA AND OUR FESTIVALS, AND THAT'S WAS GOING TO BRING US SOME REVENUE.

WE DON'T WANT TO CREATE MORE BILLS BUT WE DO WANT TO GENERATE REVENUE AND WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN DO THAT FOR GETTING MORE PEOPLE INTO OUR COMMUNITY.

AND THAT MONROE BRIDGE PROJECT IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT BUT UNTIL WE GET THAT PROJECT THE FIFTH STREET LIGHTS AND INFRASTRUCTURE ON MONROE, THAT'S WHEN WE NEED TO FOCUS.

OUR STAFF AND CREW HAVE BEEN DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB WITH WHAT THEY HAVE.

I'M LOOKING AT SOME PARKING LOTS DOWNTOWN AND SOME OF THESE THINGS SEEMED LIKE THEY HAPPEN OVERNIGHT BUT WE APPROVE IT ONE DAY WILL SOME MAY NEED MORE ATTENTION THAN OTHERS.

YOU MIGHT SEE SOME OF THE ROADS GETTING DONE IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE SO WE DON'T HAVE TO SPEND MORE MONEY AT A LATER TIME AND THAT SOME OF THE GOOD STRATEGIC PLAN THAT 10 HAS BEEN DOING AND HE CAN TELL YOU THE FIRST TIME I HEARD ABOUT CRACKING THE SALE I WAS LIKE WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, AND I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

>> ALSO AT THE TOP.

>> (AWAY FROM MIC).

THERE IS A LACK OF TRUST.

WE DON'T EVEN CARE ABOUT THEIR WATER.

IT'S THEIR POWER.

>> I WANTED TO GET BACK BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE A 50-YEAR-OLD BUILDING A COUPLE OF YEARS NEWER THAN THAT AND WHEN WE INVITE PEOPLE TO COME IN TO SPEND $50 MILLION AND WE WANT TO HAVE STAFF THAT'S GROWING AT THE SAME TIME AND OPERATIONAL, IT'S NOT TELLING YOU THAT WE DON'T KNOW BUT OUR FACILITY IS INADEQUATE.

IT DOESN'T FEEL -- IS AN ANALOGY BUT IF SOMEBODY DRESSED KIND OF FRUMPY, MAYBE THEY HAD CLOTHES ON AND IT LOOKED LIKE THEY WERE DISHEVELED AND OLD.

>> ME ON THE WEEKEND.

>> WILL SHOW YOU AN EXAMPLE.

AND THAT IS HOW WE DRESSED TO GO TO A BUSINESS MEETING.

OUR CHANCES OF BEING SUCCESSFUL IN MEETING GO DOWN.

IT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T PULL IT OFF BECAUSE WE ARE REALLY NICE.

OUR FACILITY IS NOT ADEQUATE.

THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING HERE, PROBABLY THE LIBRARY COULD BE PART OF IT AND THERE COULD BE SOME FUNDING IS THERE SUPPORT FOR US TO EVALUATE THAT

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OPPORTUNITY AND IF WE HAVE FINANCING OPPORTUNITY WHERE WE CAN JUMP IN AND PERHAPS AT THE SAME TIME LOWER INTEREST RATES AND THEY HAVE BEEN HISTORICALLY.

>> (AWAY FROM MIC).

>> IT SORT OF REPRESENTS SUBCONSCIOUSLY HOW PEOPLE DO WORK.

I MEAN, WE ASK SO MUCH OF THEM.

WE KIND OF GIVE THEM ALL THE TOOLS AND WE NEED A BUILDING THAT FUNCTIONS YOU NEED TO PUT YOUR HAT AND COAT ON ON THE SAME DAY.

I THINK WE NEED AT SOME LEVEL, NOT A TAJ MAHAL, WE NEED A FUNCTIONAL BUILDING.

I WAS ACTUALLY AT THE CITY OF PARIS AND I WAS SURPRISED TO SEE CITY HALL.

THAT'S NICER THAN OURS.

I THINK WE NEED SOME OF THOSE TOOLS TO PRESENT OURSELVES WELL AND GIVE STAFF THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK AT THEIR HIGHEST LEVEL MORE SO THAN THEY DO EVEN NOW.

>> TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE MIGHT GO FORWARD.

JUST THE NUMBERS CAME BACK.

>> WAY HIGH.

SCOTT HAS BEEN HELPING US PROBABLY BETWEEN 28 AND 35 MILLION.

AND I KNOW IT'S A RANGE BUT IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE FINISHES YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT AND HOW TAJ MAHAL IT LOOKS ARE A REAL FUNCTIONAL OFFICE BUILDING THAT MATCHES THE INVESTMENT THE COD IS PLANNING DOWNTOWN, FOR EXAMPLE.

AND WITH YOUR PERMISSION THERE'S TIME FOR A LITTLE BREAK AND THEN WE CAN WRAP UP THE NEXT FEW.

>> BEFORE THAT, WHAT ABOUT OSCAR?

>> I AGREE WITH A LOT OF WHAT WAS SAID.

ESPECIALLY WITH THE ID AND THE TRANSPORTATION CENTER.

ONE THING I DID WANT TO MENTION, ON THE PARKS SIDE, I REALLY THINK THE COLLABORATION WOULD MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE FOR US, ESPECIALLY IF WE HAVE TO MANAGE THE COMMUNITY EVENTS AT THOSE PARKS AND SPORTS LEAGUES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND JUST PUT BETTER USE OF OUR PARK SPACES AND THE OTHER ONE THAT I WANTED TO ADD WAS THE PARK IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT DURING THE BUDGET SESSION OF PUTTING A SKATE PARK AND A DOG PARK AT MILES PARK.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

>> THANK YOU.

>> SO I THINK THAT WILL BE DID HE NOT THAT WE ARE FINISHED YET TODAY WE HAVE ANOTHER HOUR FROM YOU BUT WE WILL BRING THAT ONE TIME DISCUSSION AND YOU WILL BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THESE PROJECTS AND KINDA PRIORITIZE THEM BASED ON THE MONEY THAT'S AVAILABLE FROM A ONE-TIME BASIS.

A LOT OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS OPERATIONAL BUT THE ONE TIME WOULD INCLUDE SUCH THINGS AS A SKATE PARK OR A DOG PARK.

>> AND I WANT TO ADD AS WELL -- I DON'T WANT TO GET LOST IN TRANSITION WE DO HAVE THE ART PIECE.

WE DO HAVE A 9/11 ART PIECE TO IMPLEMENT THAT SOMEWHERE IN ONE OF OUR PARKS.

>> OR THE DOWNTOWN CAMPUS.

I MEAN, PART OF THE DOWNTOWN BUILDING, IF I MAY INTERJECT, IS IT'S NOT JUST A BUILDING.

IT'S A CAMPUS THAT INVITES THE PUBLIC THAT HAS THE VETERANS ON THE 9/11 PIECE AND GIVES PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY AND FOR US TO HAVE FUNCTIONS AND CEREMONIES AND EVENTS.

IT'S A FUNCTIONAL AND USABLE PUBLIC SPACE.

I THINK THAT, TO ME, IS AS IMPORTANT AS ANYTHING ELSE IN PUTTING TOGETHER A NEW CITY POLICY.

>> SO WE CAN HAVE THAT AS KIND OF AN EVENT SPACE, THOSE KIND OF CEREMONIAL EVENTS.

WE DID HAVE THE ARCHITECT LOOK AT THE JAGGED PIECE OF METAL.

I SENT YOU A FEW IDEAS UNLESS WE GET IT UP IN THE AIR AND AWAY, IT'S IN SUCH A JAGGED SPACE THAT THEY ARE ACTUALLY RECOMMENDING SOMETHING LUPE MENTIONED.

PERHAPS AS YOU WALK INTO CITY HALL, WE COULD GET THAT AND THEY CAME UP WITH THE SAME IDEA BECAUSE IT'S SO JAGGED.

IT'S SO DANGLING.

IT'S MANGLED.

WHICH HAS ITS OWN MESSAGE BECAUSE IT CAME DOWN AS PART OF THE PROJECT.

>> AND THEN WE PUT IT UP WITH THE TIME CAPSULE.

>> THERE'S AN IDEA.

TIME CAPSULE.

>> I DO AGREE.

WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING THERE I THINK YOU WILL NEED TO PRIORITIZE WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT ANOTHER 28 MILLION, HOW MANY ROADS IS THAT, HOW MANY OF THE OTHER STUFF.

I'M NOT SAYING WE DON'T NEED IT BUT AS -- HOW CAN WE PARTNER WITH PEOPLE AND WE

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DO NEED TO FIX OUR PARKS.

OUR PARKS ARE HORRIBLE AND IT JUST HASN'T BEEN INVESTIGATED BUT ARE THERE PARTNERS AFTER THE TRANSPORTATION WE DO THE HOUSING AND SOMEBODY WILL COME IN LIKE UBER EATS.

IT WILL TAKE THE BUILDING AND USE IT.

THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME THINGS OUT THERE THAT PEOPLE GET CREATIVE BUT WHEN YOU ADD ANOTHER $28 MILLION (AWAY FROM MIC) THAT ROB HAS AND WE HAVE A STRUCTURAL DEFICIT WE PROMISED THE RESIDENTS THAT WE WOULD INVEST THAT MONEY TO MAKE THE QUALITY OF THEIR LIVES BETTER.

BECAUSE WE WILL KEEP THAT IN MIND.

>> ME WILL HAVE TO TRUST THAT AND THE DEBT SERVICE ON THE 30 MILLION IS PROBABLY 1 1/2 MILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR.

SO IF IT COMES OUT OF THAT FLOW -- WE ARE HOPING NOT AS OPERATIONAL FLOW BUT AS

CAPITAL FLOW, >> THERE'S NO CARS AND THAT'S ONE OF OUR LARGEST SOURCES OF INCOME SO I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE TAX DOLLARS DISAPPEARING.

>> THEY DON'T HAVE INVENTORY.

>> YOU CAN'T SELL WHAT YOU DON'T HAVE.

>> IS SOMETHING WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO WATCH.

YOU WANT TO TAKE A SNACK OR DRINK OR RESTROOMS.

>> ARE THERE SOME OTHER IDEAS OF HOW WE CAN HELP YOU TO FIND THE COMMUNITY? WE TALKED ABOUT OUR FACILITIES AND OUR PARKS AND SOME OTHERS ARE PART OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

WHAT ABOUT OTHER THOUGHTS?

>> GO AHEAD.

I THINK PART OF IT, AND I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, THE CITY NEEDS TO LEAD BY EXAMPLE.

WE HAVE A LOT OF AREAS THAT NEED TO BE REDONE THAT PEOPLE KEEP TELLING ME WE CAN USE IW A.

WE PAY OUR WATER BILL LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE AND WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE SOME OF THEIR SERVICES.

EVEN THOUGH THE LIGHT AND LANDSCAPE DISTRICTS, SOME OF THEM ARE CLEANER AND NEATER THAN OTHERS, THEY ARE OLD AND NOT FRESH AND NOT CHRIS.

>> (AWAY FROM MIC).

OTHER PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

AREAS LIKE THE OLD TOWN AREA.

WE TOOK OUT THE GRASS AND PUT IN STUFF AND AT FIRST -- NOW THEY LIKE IT AND WALKED DOWN TO THE PARK AND WE NEED TO LEAD BY EXAMPLE AND CLEAN HERSELF UP.

DELIGHTED LANDSCAPE DISTRICTS ARE A WAY TO DO IT AND INVESTING IN OUR COMMUNITY AND DOING THE THINGS WE NEED TO DO LIKE AROUND CITY HALL.

WE ARE NOT GOING TO WORK ON CITY HALL RIGHT NOW.

IS THERE WAYS THAT WE CAN TURN IT INTO A GARDEN? IS THERE WAYS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT SOME OF THE OLDER PLANS AND PUT IN NEW TALLER PLANTS AND USE IT AS AN EXAMPLE TO OTHER THINGS AND MAKE IT SHINE IN OTHER WAYS AND LOOK AT THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO.

PUTTING UP TREES WE ARE GOING TO MAINTAIN THAT MAYBE DON'T SHED.

WE'VE GONE THROUGH DIFFERENT KINDS OF SCENARIOS.

AT SOME OF IT IS ROCK AND HARD SCAPE WHERE WE ARE LOOKING AT PLACES AND I KNOW TIM HAS DONE A GREAT JOB BUT THE FENCES ALONG HIGHWAY 111, THEY ARE ALL TATTERED AND TORN AND WE NEED TO LOOK AT THINGS LIKE THAT AND KEEP IT CONSISTENT.

IT'S NOTHING NEW.

A LOT OF IT IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE CONTRACT LABOR.

OUTSIDE COMPANIES -- (AWAY FROM MIC).

I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF YOUR PARKING LOTS -- YOUR FLOWERBEDS LOOK TERRIBLE THIS WATER RUNNING IN THE MEDIAN GOING INTO THE STREETS YOU WANT TO COME TELL US THAT (INDISCERNIBLE) TO LEAD BY EXAMPLE.

>> WELL SAID.

>> YOU'VE MADE A VERY GOOD POINT.

WE HAVEN'T BEEN TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF IT.

A BASIC QUESTION, IS THERE A REASON WHY WE ARE NOT USING SOME OF THOSE? ARE THERE ISSUES, OR WHAT PREVENTS US FROM DOING THAT?

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>> WE CAN LET RAY JUMP IN WHILE HE'S GETTING TO MY.

ONE IS A COMMUNITY BENEFIT PROGRAM AND MAKE IT BACK ON SOME COMMUNITY PROJECTS.

WE HAVE MEDIAN ON 42 BY HOME DEPOT.

MAYBE THAT'S WHERE I W.A.

SAYS THAT'S A BENEFIT GRANT.

>> I WAS A CHIEF ENGINEER AND WE HAD 17 CITIES UNDERNEATH OUR JURISDICTION AND WE DID HAVE A DEMONSTRATION GARDEN PROGRAM WHERE HE HAD EACH OF THE CITY HALL'S.

AND IT WORKED WELL BECAUSE YOU ARE DOING TWO THINGS.

SAVING WATER AND AS PART OF YOUR OUTREACH PROGRAM.

IT'S TO COME UP WITH SIMILAR DUTY IS HOW TO RETAKE THE CITY AS AN EXAMPLE IN THE JUSTIFICATION THAT'S PART OF THE CONSERVATION PROGRAM AND OUTREACH ALL IN ONE SPECIFIC AREA THAT THE FOLKS CAN SEE AND USING AS AN EXAMPLE IN THEIR FACILITIES.

THE OTHER THING I WILL TALK ABOUT REAL QUICKLY IS I WAS ALSO PART OF A LARGE LANDSCAPE RETROFIT PROGRAM.

IT SOUNDS EXACTLY LIKE WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT NOW.

ONCE AGAIN WE RECEIVED FUNDING FOR THAT WITH RESPECT TO TAKING THE LARGER FACILITIES AND NOT NECESSARILY REMOVING THE TURF BUT BRINGING CALIFORNIA FRIENDLY LANDSCAPING AND AND NUMBER ONE WATER AND NUMBER TWO BECAUSE OF THE JURISDICTION WE WERE AND WE IMPORTED STATE WATER WHICH REQUIRES PUMPING AND IN OUR CASE THERE'S A NEXUS ON POWER AND THE LESS POWER YOU PUMP FROM YOUR WELLS YOUR SAVING POWER AND WATER SO ANOTHER AREA I PLAN TO HAVE AND WILL PRESENT TOMORROW IS LOOKING AT IS RIGHT ON SPOT WITH WHAT COUNCILMAN GLENN JUST STATED.

>> THERE ARE RESOURCES FOR THIS TYPE OF THINGS AND I JUST THOUGHT OF A NOVEL IDEA BUT THE IDEA IS WE NEED TO UPGRADE IRRIGATION BECAUSE WE HAVE THESE DIFFERENT SPRAY SYSTEMS AND SO FORTH.

BUT TO DO THAT TO GET THE IRRIGATION AND WE HAVE TO RIP OUT THE OLD PLANTS AND WE CAN REPLACE THEM WITH DESERT PLANTS AND GET THE NEW IRRIGATION AND THE MORE WATER FRIENDLY IRRIGATION AND I W.A.

FINDS THAT WHOLE THING.

>> (AWAY FROM MIC).

>> MICROPHONE, PLEASE.

>> WE DON'T PULL THE TRIGGER.

>> (AWAY FROM MIC).

>> I'VE ASKED QUESTIONS AND HERE'S SOME OF WHAT I'VE HEARD.

IT GETS BACK TO THAT GROWING ON THE SAME PACE.

THE 9/11 MONUMENT, WE SPENT SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS BUT WE COULD NEVER GET THE OARS IN THE WATER.

AND SO THAT PIECE OF METAL FOR 20 YEARS ALMOST HAS BEEN SITTING.

SO SOMETIMES YOU'VE JUST GOT TO INK IT AND SAY WE ARE GOING TO DO IT.

WE DON'T HAVE UNANIMITY AND THEIR THREE OF YOU TO SAY YES SO WE ARE GOING TO DO IT.

SO HELP US AS A STAFF NOT BE IMMOBILIZED BY THE ANALYSIS OF THE DISAGREEMENT.

IF YOU ARE ASKING FOR IT WHEN YOU GET IT AND YOU ARE ONE OF THE TWO JUST KNOW THAT'S WHERE WE ARE HEADED.

WE NEED TO ACT.

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>> (AWAY FROM MIC).

>> I WAS JUST GOING TO AND THAT WE HAVE ACTUALLY UTILIZED THE FUNDS WERE DEMONSTRATION GARDENS FOR MANY YEARS.

WE'VE BEEN INSIDE SCHOOLS AND WE ARE THE ONES THAT PROVIDED THE SEED MONEY FOR COACHELLA VALLEY HISTORY MUSEUM SOMEWHERE THAT TRAIN DEPOT IS GOING THAT'S GOING TO BE A DEMONSTRATION GARDEN AND IT CAME BY WAY OF I W.A.

GLORIA FRANZ, IT WAS KIND OF HER BRAINCHILD.

SO WE'VE DONE THE DEMONSTRATION GARDENS, AND I THINK THERE'S NO REASON WHY WE CAN'T DO EVEN LARGER ONES AND MAKE IT MORE PROMINENT FOR EXAMPLE, HERE AT CITY HALL.

>> (AWAY FROM MIC).

>> WE DID A TURF CONVERSION PROGRAM AND NOW WE DON'T HAVE A PLAY SERVICE ANYMORE.

WE TOOK SOME GRASS AWAY FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

>> THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.

WE ALL KIND OF GET -- WE HAVE TO BE COGNIZANT OF THAT AS WELL.

IT'S ALWAYS A HAPPY MEDIUM.

>> (AWAY FROM MIC).

>> THIS IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR AN D.

>> (AWAY FROM MIC).

>> GUYS, PLEASE SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE.

WE CAN HEAR ONLINE.

>> I AGREE AND I'M GOING TO HARP A LITTLE BIT ON AVENUE 42.

THAT IS A MAJOR CORNER IN OUR CITY.

42 AND JACKSON.

AND IF WE DON'T WANT TO SPEND THAT MONEY ON SPRINKLERS, THE COLOR OF CONCRETE THAT LOOKS LIKE BRICK OR SOMETHING.

I MEAN YOU HAVE ALL THIS STUFF HAPPENING UP THERE AND YOU HAVE THIS DIRT AND THE WAITER TO END THE SAME THING AROUND THE GOLF COURSE.

WE NOW HAVE THE BEAUTIFUL FENCING BUT THAT'S OUR MUNICIPAL GOLF COURSE AND THAT'S THE OTHER THING WE'VE BEEN HARPING ON.

SHOULDN'T IT BE PRETTY?

>> SOME OF THEM DON'T HAVE WATER ANYMORE.

SO THE I W.A.

CONCEPT FEE AND ANY IDEAS ON UNIFICATION?

>> I THINK EVERYTHING THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IS ALL GOING TO GO TOGETHER.

THEY BROUGHT UP SOME OF OUR ENTRIES AND PUT SOME OF THOSE PRECIOUS OUT IN THE ENCAMPMENTS AND PART OF WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT ALREADY IS ADDRESSING THOSE ENCAMPMENTS AND GETTING THOSE FOLKS THE SERVICES AND OVER ON 42 AND ACTUALLY MONROE SHOULD GO TO BILTMORE NORTH, NOT ONLY COULD BE CHANGED BUT THEY ARE LITTLE BIT DANGEROUS COMING OUT OF AVENUE 41 BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SEE DOWN THERE.

AND I KNOW WE HAVE A SIGNAL LIGHT THAT'S GOING TO BE COMING THERE SHORTLY, BUT IT'S STILL KIND OF DANGEROUS.

YOU CAN'T SEE DOWN THAT WAY.

AND THOSE ARE DDTS THINGS ARE GOING TO WORK TOGETHER, JUST BEAUTIFICATION.

I THINK WE ARE BEING INNOVATIVE NOW.

WE'RE DOING THINGS DIFFERENTLY WITH OUR ARTWORK.

WE HAVE OUR PROJECTS COMING IN.

LOOK AT CARREON PARK.

WE HAVE THE CACTI PROJECT COMING IN DOWNTOWN.

THESE ARE GOING TO CHANGE SOME OF THE DEMOGRAPHICS OVERNIGHT.

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AND I THINK WE HAVE TO CONTINUE ON THAT PATH WORKING ON SOME ART PROJECTS HERE AT CITY HALL MAKING IT A PLACE OR A DESTINATION WHERE FOLKS CAN COME AND SAY THERE'S A 9/11 MONUMENT DOWNTOWN AT CITY HALL, HOWEVER WE DO IT IS GOING TO MAKE IT A DESTINATION THAT COME PAY TRIBUTE THERE OR WE PAY TRIBUTE TO SOME OF OUR FALLEN SOLDIERS THAT WE RECENTLY LOST.

SOME THINGS LIKE THAT, SOME BANNERS DOWN INDIO BOULEVARD.

HOW CAN WE WORK ON THE BEAUTIFICATION AND CHANGE IT AGAIN.

NOT TO SAY WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT IN THE PAST BUT IT'S KIND OF TIME TO DO IT.

WE PUT THOSE BANNERS OUT.

WE'VE COME A LONG WAY, I THINK WE NEED TO CONTINUE ON THAT PATH AND HAVE TO TIP MY HAT OFF TO OUR GRAFFITI ABATEMENT TEAM.

THOSE GUYS ARE INCREDIBLE.

I TELL YOU, I'M LOOKING AT THINGS.

GETTING OFF WORK AT 9 A.M.

I'M DRIVING AROUND AND I SEE GRAFFITI.

I GO ON THE WEBSITE AND TAKE A PICTURE AND YOU UPLOADED WITHIN 24 HOURS IT'S GONE.

I PUT SOME UP ALL 9 A.M.

AT 7:00 -- THEY'RE DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB.

THAT JUST SHOWS THAT APPLICANT AFTER THE COMMUNITY A LITTLE BIT MORE AND REALLY FOCUS AND TELL THEM HEY, THE CITY CAN ONLY DO TOO MUCH.

YOU ELECTED US TO MAKE DECISIONS SO IS YOUR COMMUNITY.

YOU HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF IT, WHETHER WE ARE WORKING WITH THE YOUTH OR SOCIAL MEDIA.

I THINK THEY WERE VERY BENEFICIAL TEACHING WE HAVE A LOT OF SERVICES.

WE HAVE THE RESOURCE FAIRS FOLKS COME DOWN AND THEY SEE WITH THE WATER DISTRICT AS OR THE REBATE PROGRAM WITH I W.A., SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS WE CAN DO.

COMMUNITY CLEANUPS.

THAT'S A GOOD MECHANISM USED NOT TO JUST CLEAN UP AND INTERACT WITH THE COMMUNITY.

THEY COME OUT AND START WORKING ON IT GIVES US -- WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM US WHETHER IT'S MORE LED LIGHTS OR ROADS OR JUST COMMUNICATION.

I CAN TELL YOU -- OVERNIGHT WE HAD ROADS IF YOU CAN GO DOWN THERE AT 9 A.M.

DRIVE DOWN I CAN TELL YOU FIVE YEARS AGO IF YOU WENT TO THEIR IT'S COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE COMMUNITY AND SAY WE WERE HEADED ALL IN ONE SHOT AND COMMUNICATE WITH THOSE FOLKS AND THANK YOU JASON AND CHIEF.

SOMETIMES I MAY NOT HAVE THE ANSWER BUT ONE OF THESE -- I THINK WE ARE ON THE RIGHT PATH BUT COMMUNITY CLEANUPS ARE BENEFICIAL TO THE BEAUTIFICATION AND IT SHOWS THE COMMUNITY THAT WE CARE AND IN TURN THEY BEGAN TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR COMMUNITY.

>> THE REVERSE BROKEN WINDOW THEORY.

>> PEOPLE TAKE THEIR SIGNS OR THEIR SIGNS DOWN AND THEY HAVE TO PAY PICU CONTRACTS OR ANY PART OF OUR CITY.

THERE'S NOTHING UP THERE OR THERE'S A BANNER AND I KNOW BECAUSE AS A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER I'VE HAD TO GET PERMITS.

THE BANNERS ARE SUPPOSED BE 45 DAYS WITHIN A 90 DAY PERIOD.

REDOING SIGNS OR NOT? WE CANNOT ENFORCE THE FACT THAT IF YOU MOVE OUT YOU HAVE TO REMOVE THE SIGN IN OR PAINTED FAÃ♪ADE.

WE LOOK AT WINDOWS.

ONE THIRD OF THE WINDOWS IS SUPPOSED TO BE COVERED.

IT HAS MORE JUNK ON THEIR WINDOWS AND IS MIND-BOGGLING AND WILL APPEAL STILL STUFF OFF BEFORE THEY PUT NEW STUFF ON.

I AM FRUSTRATED BY THE LACK OF DUTY IT'S EVERYTHING FROM BANNERS.

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>> (AWAY FROM MIC).

>> PROPERTY MAINTENANCE STANDARDS FOR COMMERCIAL PRODUCTS.

WE ARE LACKING COMMERCIAL COMPLEXES BECAUSE THEY'VE ALL BEEN CONDITIONED DIFFERENTLY.

SO BRINGING THAT ALL INTO TD I THINK THAT WILL BE HUGE AND I APPRECIATE IT AND I KNOW OSCAR HAS HIS HAND RAISED SO I DON'T WANT TO GO ON TO THE NEXT SUBJECT WITHOUT ALLOWING OSCAR TO SPEAK.

>> THANK YOU.

ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS I LIKE IS THE BLOCK WALLS AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH SOME OF THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND STARTING AN INDIAN -- ALL THE WAY TO 111 THERE'S A PAUSE.

DO WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO GET PERMISSION TO WORK ON THOSE WALLS?

>> IT IS COMPLICATED.

MOST OF THE WALLS ARE OWNED BY THE PROPERTY OWNER OR THE HOA.

IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY.

WE HAVE SOME RECENTLY AND THESE ARE FOLKS WHO RECEIVED INSURANCE SETTLEMENTS BUT IT WASN'T ENOUGH TO COMPLETE THE FULL RECONSTRUCTION OF THE WALL.

SO IT'S STILL LEFT DECONSTRUCTED.

IF WE STEP IN AND DO IT THERE IS A COST WE HAVE UPFRONT AND A GOOD CHANCE WE WILL GET REIMBURSED IN THE ABATEMENT PROCESS BUT IT TAKES TIME.

IT WILL BE MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE IF WE DO IT.

>> IT WILL BE MORE EXPENSIVE BUT IT GETS THE PROBLEM SOLVED FASTER.

SO A LOT OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS SOLVE THE PROBLEM SO THAT (INDISCERNIBLE).

>> IS NOT NECESSARILY THE ONE WHO'S BEEN CRASHED INTO.

MAYBE WE CAN WORK WITH A HIGH SCHOOL ARTS PROGRAM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO GET SOMETHING GOING WITH THEM.

WORK WITH SOME OTHER ORGANIZATIONS TO GET OUR GOING ON SOME OF THE WALLS.

I THINK THAT WILL BE NICE.

I'VE ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT THEM ALREADY.

GETTING MORE AWARENESS THE BOOKIE ITEM IN THEIR YARDS.

I LIKE SUGGESTIONS FROM COUNCILMEMBER MILLER AND FIMRIAE AS WELL.

MAYBE JUST SHOWING THEM WHAT THE COSTS ARE AS EIGHT PEOPLE KNOW HOW MUCH I NEED TO SAVE UP IF I AM GOING TO CONVERT TO DESERT FRIENDLY LANDSCAPING.

AND HOPEFULLY IN SOME WAY WE CAN -- I THINK THEY WERE BRING THOSE NUMBERS TO US FOR HOW MANY -- AND SO WE CAN START SEEING HOW MUCH DO WE REALLY NEED TO INVEST AND START GETTING THAT UP HIGHER SO WE CAN SAVE MORE MONITOR AS WELL.

ON INDIO BOULEVARD ONE OF THE THINGS WE CAN DO BECAUSE WE ARE LIMITED FINANCIALLY TO THE CANNABIS BUSINESSES.

THAT WOULD BRING INVESTMENTS TO AN AREA LIKE THAT.

THEY WILL MAKE AN AGREEMENT THEREAFTER PROVIDE SOME KIND OF SERVICE TO THAT AREA OR SOME KIND OF IMPROVEMENT TO THE AREA AND I THINK FOR THE HOTELS THERE IF WE WERE TO CHANGE THE ZONING THERE TO ENABLE -- I'M IN HERE TO SEE THAT ONE ALREADY.

I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT ONE THAT WE DO LEAVE THOSE SPACES FOR PLAY AREAS BUT HOW CAN WE IMPROVE THEM TO BE BETTER USED AS PLAY AREAS.

I KNOW IN MY OLD NEIGHBORHOOD, SOME OF THAT STUFF LOOKS PRETTY BAD.

EVEN THOUGH THE KIDS TO PLAY THERE.

WE HAD TWO SOCCER GOALS AND THEY REUSE TREMENDOUSLY.

I THINK THEY WERE REMOVED AT SOME POINT BECAUSE ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS HAD COMPLAINTS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT BUT IF WE COULD FIND SOME WAYS AROUND THAT THAT WE COULD START USING THOSE LITTLE BETTER OR ADDING SMALL AMENITIES, WOULD IT BE TOO EXPENSIVE TO THOSE AREAS WOULD REALLY HELP.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE GRAFFITI ABATEMENT.

OUR TEAM DOES REALLY WELL.

I DEFINITELY REACH OUT TO THEM A LOT AND IT WAS TAKEN CARE OF BY THE NEXT MORNING.

SO I APPRECIATE THEIR WORK ON THAT SIDE OF THINGS.

I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR NOW.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THOSE SUBJECTS.

>> THOSE ARE GOOD.

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AND SOME OF THEM LIKE WE HAVE AN ARTS AND CULTURE FOCUS, SOME OF THEM MIGHT BE AS WE DISCUSSED CANNABIS AND SO FORTH FROM ECONOMIC STANDPOINT.

>> LUPE HAS BEEN RAISING HER HAND.

>> WE CREATED ARTWORK OF A RESIDENTIAL WALL AND I AM HEADING WESTBOUND I WOULD INVITE EVERYONE TO DRIVE BY AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

IT CREATED AN UGLY FEELING RESIDENTIAL HOA WALL INTO A BEAUTIFUL MURAL.

I THINK WE CAN DO THINGS LIKE THAT BUT THE PLACE REALLY WOULD LIKE FOR US TO FOCUS ON AND THEN WE HAVE A LARGE CITY AND WE WANT TO DO THINGS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY BUT IF WE DON'T TAKE CARE OF OUR ENTRY POINTS, IF WE DON'T PUT OUR BEST DRESS ON AT THOSE POINTS, DOESN'T MATTER WHAT WE DO IN THE CITY BECAUSE NO ONE WILL GO ON A TRAVEL PASS ANYWHERE THAT'S POORLY MAINTAINED.

OUR FUNDS ARE LIMITED AND STAFF RESOURCES ARE SHORT SO I REALLY WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO REALLY FOCUS ON THE ENTRY POINTS AND WE CAN PUT OUR BEST FOOT FORWARD SO WE CAN BRING IN THOSE NEW INVESTMENTS SO WE CAN HAVE ADDITIONAL RESOURCE TO INVEST COMMUNITYWIDE.

THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY.

>> (AWAY FROM MIC).

>> IT DROPS PROPERTY VALUES AND THERE'S ONE ON OASIS THAT HAD A FENCE AND A WRAP AND THE WRAP HAS BEEN REMOVED AND NOW THEY ARE IN THERE DURING GRAFFITI.

I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THE NEXT FIRE DEPARTMENT BLURB THAT SAYS HOUSE ON OASIS BURNED AGAIN.

I'M NOT TRYING TO BE A SMART ALEC BUT IMPORTANTLY, ONCE THAT SEEMS TO HAPPEN AND IT'S UNFORTUNATE, IT'S A WASTE OF RESOURCES.

THERE'S GOT TO BE A WAY TO WORK WITH THE OWNER SO THEY CAN CONTINUE TO WORK ON THAT PROPERTY AFTER SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAS HAPPENED NOT TO SAY AFTER A FENCE UP ON IT THAT'S IT.

>> EITHER CAVEN OR JASON WANTS TO CHIME IN.

FROM A POLICY PERSPECTIVE IF WE GIVE VERY BRIEF NOTICE AND THEN WE SAY WE ARE GOING TO JUMP IN AND DEBATE THERE'S A LEGAL PROCESS IN UPFRONT COSTS MOST OFTEN WE CAN RECOVER THOSE BUT IF THAT'S THE POLICY DIRECTION MAY BE MUCH MORE AGGRESSIVE AND YOU WILL GET PUSHBACK FROM SOME THAT I JUST HAD MY HOUSE BURNED DOWN AND NOW YOU'RE JUMPING ALL OVER ME AND I HAVEN'T EVEN GOT MY INSURANCE SETTLEMENT YET.

>> THAT'S WHAT WE ARE GOING AND WHEN WE ARE TRYING TO RESOLVE THIS FROM -- ABATEMENTS ALLOWS US TO GO IN AND WITH A RELATIVELY SHORT TIMEFRAME GO IN AND UPDATE THESE.

AND WE CAN RECOVER THE COST GOING INTO THAT.

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SO IT'S SORT OF WHAT WE NORMALLY DO AND SOLVE THE PROBLEM AND THEN GOING AFTER CLASS REIMBURSEMENT.

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WE CAN FUN BUT THAT'S THE POLICY DECISION.

>> AND MY QUESTION IS BECAUSE OF THESE ABANDONED PLACES TEND TO BURN TWO OR THREE TIMES HOW MUCH DOES THAT CAUSE

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.