>> I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
[1. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL]
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MY NAME IS JACQUELINE LOPEZ CHAIR OF THE INDIO PLANNING COMMISSION.THIS IS FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION DATE OF DECEMBER 8, 2021.
AND IF YOU CAN PLEASE GET THE ROLL CALL.
>> CHAIR PERSON JACQUELINE LOPEZ.
VICE CHAIRPERSON NICCO YSIANO.
PRESENT >> COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ CEJA.
>> COMMISSIONER ESPERANZA VALDEZ.
>> AT THIS TIME IF WE CAN GO AHEAD AND VICE CHAIR WOULD YOU PLEASE LEAD US INTO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
PLEASE REPEAT THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WITH ME.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
>> NEXT WE HAVE THE ROTATION OF CHAIRPERSON AND VICE CHAIR PERSON.
[3. ROTATION OF CHAIRPERSON AND VICE-CHAIRPERSON]
THIS IS AN ANNUAL EXERCISE BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN WHICH WE ASK THE OUTGOING CHAIRPERSON, WHICH IS CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ, TO DO THE FORMAL CEREMONIAL HANDING OVER THE GAVEL TO THE INCOMING CHAIRPERSON WHICH IS IN THIS INSTANCE VICE CHAIRPERSON YSIANO.
ON BEHALF OF STAFF WE WANT TO CHANGER THE CHAIRPERSON FOR HER LEADERSHIP AND HER PATIENCE WITH STAFF AND WORKING WITH US THROUGHOUT THIS LAST YEAR IN CHALLENGING TIMES AS WE TRANSITION FROM A VIRTUAL ONLY BATH TO A HYBRID IN PERSON MEETING, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR AVAILABILITY AND MEETING WITH US.
AND I WOULD REQUEST IF THE COMMISSION WOULD UNDER JOIN ME IN A ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR CHAIR LOPEZ.
[APPLAUSE] AND IF WE CAN HAVE THE CEREMONIAL HANDING OF THE GRAVEL TO THE CHAIRPERSON.
AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO ALSO CONGRATULATE CHRISTIAN RODRIGUEZ CEJA WHO WILL BE OUR NEW VICE CHAIRPERSON.
HE'S JOINING US VIRTUALLY THIS EVENING.
AND THANK YOU BOTH FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO TAKE ON THESE RESPONSIBILITIES.
AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO AS STAFF WORKING WITH ALL OF YOU, AS WELL AS THE REST OF THE COMMISSION.
AND WE WILL GO FORWARD FROM THERE.
REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP.
I'LL SAVE MY COMMENTS FOR THE END, I GUESS, BUT GO AHEAD.
FIRST ITEM IS PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.
DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA?
AND THEN WE'LL GO INTO MINUTES.
WE WILL DO THE MINUTES SEPARATELY FOR THE JULY 28TH AND AUGUST 11TH, I BELIEVE.
[5. MINUTES]
COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ CEJA WAS ABSENT FROM JULY 28TH, CORRECT? SO CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR JULY 28TH.>> I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR JULY 28, THE 2021.
>> CHAIRPERSON JACQUELINE LOPEZ.
>> AND THEN CAN WE MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR AUGUST 11, 2021.
>> I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO PASS THE MINUTES FOR AUGUST 11, 2021.
VICE CHAIRPERSON RODRIGUEZ CEJA.
I'D LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO LET KEVIN SNYDER INTRODUCE SOME NEW STAFF MEMBERS TO OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
I WANT TO TAKE MOMENT OF COMMISSION'S TIME TO INTRODUCE NEW STAFF MEMBERS.
AS THE COMMISSION IS AWARE WE HAVE HAD PRETTY SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES IN THE PAST COUPLE MONTHS.
WE HAVE HAD FORKS MOVE ON TO OTHER OPPORTUNITIES AND INCLUDING MOST RECENTLY LEILA NAMVAR WHO WAS SENIOR PLANNER.
SHE'S NOW HELPING -- WORKING WITH OUR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER AND RUN HELPING ON RUN OUR PUBLIC ARTS PROGRAM.
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I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO LEILA FOR HER 17 YEARS AND THE ROLE IN THE PLANNING DIVISION AND DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB.SHE'LL BE MISSED BUT I'M HAPPY FOR HER AND EXCITED ABOUT HER FLEW OPPORTUNITIES.
I KNOW SHE'S EXCITED ABOUT IT.
SO WITH ALL THESE CHANGES WE'VE HAD THE CHANCE TO GO OUT AND RECRUIT.
WE HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL ABLE TO RECRUIT SOME OUTSTANDING INDIVIDUALS, AND AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE THEM TO YOU.
THAT PERSON WILL JOIN US IN EARLY JANUARY.
BUT FOR THIS EVENING I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE TO YOU MARIBEL COVARRUBIAS.
SHE IS OUR NEW ASSISTANT PLANNER AND SHE STARTED A WEEK AGO.
A LITTLE OVER A WEEK AGO WITH US.
JESSE DOMINGUEZ, AND JESSE IS ANOTHER ASSISTANT PLANNER WITH US.
AND JESSE HAS THE DISTINCTION OF THIS IS HIS SECOND TOUR OF DUTY WITH THE CITY, I BELIEVE.
HE SERVED WITH THE CITY BACK IN THE EARLY OR LATE '90S AND EARLY 2000S.
AND THEN MANUEL ROCCA IS OUR NEW PLANNING TECHNICIAN, AND MANUEL JOINED US ON MONDAY.
SO JESSE AND MARIBEL HAVE THE DISTINCTION BEING HERE A WEEK AND A HALF.
MANUEL HAS BEEN ON THE JOB FOR TWO DAYS.
AND SO THANK YOU TO THE THREE OF YOU FOR JOINING THE TEAM.
PLANNING COMMISSION, THIS IS ALMOST YOUR NEW PLANNING TEAM.
AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING THEM WORK WOULD YOU.
I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO BE REALLY HAPPY WITH THEM AND THEIR WORK PRODUCTS, AND SO LOOKING FORWARD TO KIND OF A NEW CHAPTER, IF YOU WILL, FOR THE PLANNING DIVISION, SO THANK YOU.
AND MOVING ON TO PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS, OUR FIRST ITEM IS CONTINUED FROM
[6.1. Conditional Use Permit 21-07-1068, APC Towers CA-1077 Brickey Property]
NOVEMBER 10TH, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 2121-07-1068, APC TOWERS CA-1077 BRICKEY PROPERTY.>> CHAIR, I'M GOING AHEAD AND RECUSE MYSELF FROM THIS ITEM.
>> DO I NEED TO READ OUT WHAT'S BELOW THAT OR DO WE GO TO STAFF REPORT?
>> YOU DO NOT NEED TO READ IT, CHAIR.
IT'S STATED FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD, SO CERTAINLY AT YOUR DISCRETION IF YOU SO CHOOSE TO, BUT IT IS IN THE PUBLIC RECORD SO IF YOUR READY FOR THE STAFF REPORT WE'RE READY TO PROCEED.
FOR THE ROARED KEVIN SNYDER DIRECTOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, AND THIS ITEM IS CONTINUED FROM NOVEMBER 10TH.
AT THAT TIME THE MEETING -- THIS ITEM WAS CONTINUED DUE TO A LACK OF QUORUM SO THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM, AND THIS PARTICULAR ITEM -- OH, GOOD, IT WORKS.
THIS IS, UNDER OUR CODE THIS IS WHAT'S CONSIDERED A LARGE CELLULAR TOWER APPLICATION WHICH REQUIRES REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN WHAT IS CALLED OUR WORKPLACE EMPLOYMENT DISTRICT, WHICH IS THE GENERAL PLAN DESIGNATION, AND IT IS ON A PROPERTY THAT IS CURRENTLY ZONED REGIONAL COMMERCIAL.
THE PROPOSAL IS AN INSTALLATION OF ONE 65-FOOT TALL CELLULAR TOWER.
IT IS PROPOSED AS A STEALTH DESIGN AS A FAUX EUCALYPTUS TREE.
THE TYPICALLY THE COMMISSION HAS SEEN HE IS COME IN AS MORE OF A PALM TREE DESIGN, BUT THERE'S NOTHING IN OUR CODE THAT SAYS IT CAN'T BE AN ALTERNATE DESIGN SO THIS EUCALYPTUS TREE DESIGN IS DIFFERENT AND DISTINCTIVE FROM WHAT THE COMMISSION HAS SEEN BEFORE BUT IT IS ALLOWED BY OUR CODE, AND IT WOULD BE ACCOMPANIED BY 7-FOOT HIGH CMU CLOSURE OF 500 SQUARE FEET FOR EQUIPMENT WITH SURROUNDING LANDSCAPING.
SO THIS IS REPRESENTATIONS OF WHAT THE TOWER WILL LOOK LIKE WITH ITS EQUIPMENT AND CMU SURROUNDING BLOCK WALL, JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME PERSPECTIVES.
THIS IS A REPRESENTATION OF WHAT THIS WILL LOOK LIKE.
OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENT BUT IT KIND OF GIVES YOU A SENSE OF THE SCALE.
THIS IS SHOWING YOU THE LOCATION OF THE AREA THAT'S PROPOSED FOR INSTALLATION.
THE PREVIOUS ONE WAS A REPRESENTATION OF OTHER AREAS IN THE CITY.
THIS IS MORE IN THE AREA THAT'S PROPOSED.
AND THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY IS ALONG CALHOUN STREET.
IF YOU LOOK TO THE IMMEDIATE RIGHT OF THE PICTURE WHERE THAT SMALL SIGN IS, THAT'S THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION.
SO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION AFTER A THOROUGH REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION AND SUBJECT TO THE FINDINGS AND CONCLUSIONS THAT ARE CONTAINED IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY DISTRIBUTED TO THE COMMISSION AND THEN MADE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC, STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 2008 THAT WOULD APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AUTHORIZING THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE 65-FOOT TALL WIRELESS FACILITY, DESIGN IS THAT FAUX EUCALYPTUS TREE WITH THE ACCOMPANYING 7-FOOT HIGH
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CMU BLOCK WALL, AND ALSO DETERMINING THAT THE PROJECT IS EXEMPT FROM THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT.AGAIN, THIS IS CONSIDERED EXEMPT UNDER THE PROVISIONS BECAUSE IT IS AN INFILL PROJECT.
SO WITH THAT, STAFF IS HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, AND IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, THEN STAFF IS CERTAINLY AVAILABLE THROUGHOUT THE PUBLIC HEARING TO RESPOND TO ANY QUESTIONS THE COMMISSION MIGHT HAVE AS WELL AS DURING YOUR DELIBERATION.
>> DO ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
>> I'M JUST CURIOUS AS FAR AS THE DESIGN.
WHY A EUCALYPTUS TREE AND NOT A PALM TREE ON THIS?
>> THE APPLICANT IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER THAT.
I THINK THAT THEY HAVE HAD EXPERIENCE WITH THIS DESIGN ELSEWHERE AND WANTED TO BRING IT HERE.
AGAIN, THERE IS AN ENCOURAGEMENT OF A PALM TREE DESIGN IN OUR CODE, BUT IT'S NOT A MANDATE, SO THEY DO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT AN ALTERNATIVE DESIGN CONSIDERATION TO THE COMMISSION FOR YOUR REVIEW, BUT SPECIFICS AS TO WHY THIS PARTICULAR DESIGN I WOULD DEFER THAT TO THE APPLICANT.
IT LOOKS PRETTY COOL AND DIFFERENT BUT I WAS JUST CURIOUS AS TO WHY A EUCALYPTUS TREE AND NOT A PALM TREE.
NOW, WHERE THIS TOWER IS GOING TO BE BUILT, IS THERE GOING TO BE ANY OTHER KIND CONSTRUCTION GOING AROUND THE TOWER?
>> JUST TO CLARIFY, COMMISSIONER, ARE YOU TALK ABOUT ON THE SITE ITSELF?
>> HOW BIG IS THE LOT OR THE SPACE WHERE THIS TOWER IS GOING TO BE BUILT?
>> THIS PROPERTY IS -- LET ME JUST GET THAT FOR YOU.
A LOT OF DIFFERENT PROPERTIES IN MY HEAD, SO I APOLOGIZE.
IT'S APPROXIMATELY I BELIEVE 2 ACRES.
I WILL CONFIRM THAT BUT YOU BELIEVE IT'S 2 ACRES IN SIZE.
SO THERE IS THE POTENTIAL FOR OTHER UTILIZATION OF THE PROPERTY, NOT JUST FOR THIS PROPOSAL.
YOU'LL SEE THAT OFTEN, THAT WHERE THESE FACILITIES GO IN, THERE MAY BE A FUTURE ACCOMPANYING DEVELOPMENT, SO THEY TYPICALLY TRY TO PLACE IT TO NOT FORESTALL THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY FOR THE OTHER USES.
OBVIOUSLY THAT WOULD BE SUPERINTENDENT TO IT IS OWN SEPARATE REVIEWS PERHAPS BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN THE FUTURE.
BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, THIS IS JUST WHAT'S PROPOSED AT THIS TIME.
WE HAVE IN THE PAST TALKED WITH THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY ON VARIOUS USES THAT HE HAS CONSIDERED FOR THE PROPERTY, AND I'M ASSUMING THAT AT SOME POINT HE MAY WANT TO BRING IN OTHER ALTERNATE USES FOR THAT PROPERTY TO SEEK FURTHER DEVELOPMENT OF THE REMAIN CAN PORTION OF THE PARCEL.
ANOTHER QUICK QUESTION WOULD BE AS FAR AS THE TOWER, DOES THAT HELP SUPPLY -- I KNOW IT'S FOR CELLULAR USE, BUT WI-FI AS WELL? IS THAT PART OF IT?
>> TYPICALLY THEY'RE CELLULAR TOWERS SO THEY'RE TYPICALLY NETWORK RELATED TOWERS FOR AN INSTITUTIONAL CARRIER.
THE APPLICANT MAYBE GIVE YOU SPECIFICS AS TO WHO THE POTENTIAL CARRIER IS.
WI-FI IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY ANIMAL, IF YOU WILL, ALTHOUGH WE GET WI-FI OBVIOUSLY VIA OUR CELLULAR PHONES IN SUPPORTING AREAS.
THEY DON'T TYPICALLY ACT AS WI-FI RELAYERS BUT AGAIN THE APPLICANT CAN GIVE YOU FURTHER TECHNICAL DETAILS.
IF THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND THEY'D LIKE TO ADD THE STAFF REPORT, WE'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM NEM.
THIS IS DAMIAN WITH COASTAL BUSINESS GROUP SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF APC AS THE APPLICANT.
I JUST WANT TO -- >> EXCUSE ME.
BEFORE WE DO THAT I'D LIKE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE.
SO I HAVE THREE QUESTIONS WRITTEN DOWN HERE, SO I'LL TOUCH ON EACH, AND THANK YOU, MR. SNYDER, FOR THE PRESENTATION AND ADDRESSING SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS AS YOU SAW FIT.
SO THE FIRST QUESTION I HAVE WRITTEN DOWN WAS -- >> THIS IS KEVIN.
CAN I INTERRUPT YOU REAL FAST.
CAN YOU RESTATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
I THINK THERE WAS A LITTLE TALKING OVER AT THE BEGINNING SO IT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN ON THE RECORD.
SO DID MY NAME IS DAMIEN PICHARDO.
I'M WITH COASTAL BUSINESS GROUP, AND I'M RENTING APC AS THE APPLICANT.
SO TO ANSWER THE FIRST QUESTION I HAVE HERE OF WHY WE DECIDED TO PURSUE THIS DESIGN, SO THERE'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT REASONS.
SO UNDERSTANDING THAT THE CITY MAY HAVE A PREFERENCE TOWARDS MONO-PALMS AND OUR
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PROPOSAL IS A MONO EUCALYPTUS AS YOU CAN SEE BY THE PICTURES PRESENTED, THIS IS REALLY TO -- THE PRIMARY REASON WOULD BE TO ALLOW FOR FUTURE CO-LOCATION OF OTHER CARRIERS ONTO THAT TOWER.TYPICALLY WITH PALM TREES, WHEN A SECOND CARRIER IS TO COME AND CO-LOCATE OR INSTALL THEIR FACILITIES OH THAT SAME TOWER, YOU MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THAT SAME PALM TREE AESTHETIC WHEN YOU HAVE NOW ADDITIONAL ANTENNAS BELOW THAT INITIAL POM FRONDS.
SO ESSENTIALLY YOU CAN'T HAVE TWO SETS OF PALM FRONDS ON YOUR TOWER, OBVIOUSLY IT WILL LOOK A LITTLE ODD.
IT WON'T LOOK LIKE A PALM TREE.
SO WITH THE MONO EUCALYPTUS, ONE OF THE BIGGEST POSITIVES OF GOING WITH THAT DESIGN IS THAT WE CAN ADD ADDITIONAL CARRIERS AND THOSE WILL PRETTY SEAMLESSLY BE DISGUISED WITHIN THE BRANCHES THAT ARE GOING DOWN THE EXTENT OF THE TOWER AS THEY'RE SHOWN ON THERE.
SO BASICALLY IT'S GOING TO PROVIDE BETTER OPPORTUNITY FOR SCREENING FOR FUTURE CARRIER TO COME IN AND CO-LOCATE.
AS FAR AS CONSTRUCTION GOES ON THE PROPERTY, I DON'T HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON WHAT THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PLANS ARE ON THERE, ON THAT PROPERTY MYSELF, BUT TYPICALLY WE WOULD BE ABLE TO -- YOU KNOW, WE TRY TO LOCATE OUR FACILITY AS FAR AWAY FROM WHERE ANY POTENTIAL FUTURE DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE, SO WE WORK WITH THE PROPERTY TO ENSURE THAT WHERE WE PLACE THIS WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PROPERTY THAT WOULD INHIBIT FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
WE TRIED TO PUSH IT ON TO THE OUTSIDE OF THE PROPERTY LINE SO THAT THEY COULD POTENTIALLY DEVELOP AROUND OUR LOCATION.
AND AS FOR THE LAST QUESTION, ABOUT PROVIDING WI-FI THROUGH THIS FACILITY, SO THIS TOWER AND THE FACILITY WILL NOT PROVIDE WI-FI.
IT WILL PROVIDE YOUR TYPICAL CELL PHONE SERVICES, SO PCS DATA AND DATA THROUGH YOUR PHONE, SO YOU'LL HAVE INTERNET THROUGH YOUR PHONE IF YOU'RE A CUSTOMER OF THIS CARRIER.
WE ARE PROCEEDING WITH T-MOBILE IS GOING TO BE OUR FIRST CARRIER WHO CO-LOCATES ONTO THIS FACILITY, BUT AS MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, THERE MAY BE OTHER CARRIERS DOWN THE LINE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN ALSO CO-LOCATING THEIR EQUIPMENT ON THIS FACILITY AND THEY, TOO, WOULD THEN HAVE THEIR SERVICES OPERATING FROM THIS TOWER.
AND I'M OPEN TO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AS WELL.
SO DO WE HAVE A SITE PLAN WHERE YOU HAVE DESIGNATED WHERE EXACTLY THIS WILL BE LOCATED? BECAUSE, LIKE YOU SAID, YOUR PLAN IS TO MOVE IT TO THE EDGE OF A PROPERTY SO THAT IT DOESN'T INHIBIT FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, BUT HOW DO WE KNOW WHERE IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO WIND UP? NORMALLY WE GET A SITE PLAN THAT SAYS THIS IS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO PLACE IT.
>> IF I CAN JUMP IN, COMMISSIONER, YES, IT'S ATTACHED TO THE PACKET THAT SHOWS THE SITE LOCATION ON THE PROPERTY.
>> CAN IT BE BROUGHT UP? JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE OUR USUAL.
>> CAN YOU GIVE US JUST A SECOND TO DO THAT.
WHILE YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT, I CAN ASK YOU A SECOND QUESTION.
WHEN THEY SHOWED US PHOTOS OF THE EUCALYPTUS TOWERS, THERE WERE SEVERAL DIFFERENT VERSIONS.
HOW DO WE KNOW WHICH ONE YOU ARE PLANNING TO PLACE ON THIS PARTICULAR SITE? BECAUSE IT WILL LOOK VERY DIFFERENT BASED ON WHICH OF THOSE YOU ACTUALLY SELECT.
>> YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
AND IF WE CAN EVENTUALLY GET BACK TO THAT SLIDE, IT DID APPEAR TO ME THAT SOME OF THOSE ACTUALLY WERE NOT MONO-EUCALYPTUSES AND THEY MIGHT BE MONO PINES, SO LOOKING LIKE A PINE TREE INSTEAD.
OVER TIME THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR WINDS AND WEATHER TO DETERIORATE OR MOVE THE BRANCHES, BUT AS PART OF OUR BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS WE WILL HAVE FULL TOWER DETAILS FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THAT TOWER THAT WILL HAVE SOME INFORMATION ON BRANCH DENSITY, THE LENGTHS OF THESE BRANCHES, SO YOU CAN GET AN IDEA OF HOW THE FOLIAGE WILL BE DESIGNED FOR THIS SPECIFIC TOWER.
>> SO THEN I'LL HAVE THAT BROUGHT UP SO YOU CAN POINT TO WHICH ONE IT IS THAT WE CAN EXPECT TO SEE ON THE PROPERTY.
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I FORGOT MY MIC WAS OFF.SO, COMMISSIONERS, VANESSA HAS SHARED HER SCREEN.
IS THAT VISIBLE TO ALL OF YOU?
>> AND IT IS SHOWING THE LOCATION OF THE FACILITY ON THE SITE.
THAT IS THAT BOXED OUT AREA, KIND OF CENTER ON THE CORNER THERE.
>> SO I'M ASSUMING IT'S THE ONE WITH THE LITTLE DASHES AROUND IT, CORRECT?
>> DAMIAN, DO YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN THIS MORE?
THE DASHES IS JUST A REFERENCE TO THE NEXT SHEET DOWN, WHICH I HAVE A ZOOMED-IN VERSION OF THAT.
SO WITHIN THOSE DASHES YOU'LL SEE THE BOLD LINE AND SEE A LITTLE TRIANGULAR SHAPE AND EQUIPMENT PLATFORM, BUT, YES, WITHIN THAT DASHED LINE THERE'S A EQUIPMENT AREA THAT'S BETTER DETAILED HERE ON THE RIGHT AS HE SCROLLS DOWN.
>> SO, COMMISSIONERS, WHAT VANESSA HAS SCROLLED TO US IS THE DETAIL THAT DAMIEN WAS REFERRING TO THAT SHOWS THE BLOW-UP OF THE FACILITY WITH THE BLOCK WALL SHOWN AND THEN THE TOWER ITSELF WITH THE ANTENNA DISPLAYS ATTACHED.
CAN WE GO BACK TO FIRST ONE THAT SHOWS LIKE THE ACTUAL LOT.
>> SO WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THIS, YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU LIKE TO PUT THESE ON OUTER EDGES OF A PROPERTY LINE SO THAT IT'S EASIER TO BUILD AROUND IT, SO WHY IS THIS MORE IN THE CENTER VERSUS AN OUTER EDGE OF THE PROPERTY?
>> DAMIEN, THAT'S PROBABLY A BETTER QUESTION TO BE ANSWERED BY YOU.
LET ME -- I BELIEVE THE PROPERTY LINE IS HIDDEN.
LET ME JUST PULL UP -- I'M GOING TO PULL UP THE SET OF PLANS ON MY END HERE BECAUSE I THINK I CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT BETTER ON MY END.
SO THAT IS -- WHERE OUR EQUIPMENT IS SHOWN IS ON THE FORTH FACE OF THE PROPERTY.
I BELIEVE THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S KIND OF BLOCKING THE PROPERTY LINE, BUT YOU CAN SEE THERE'S DIFFERENT APNS, SO ABOVE YOU WILL YOU'VE 6120, 002.
IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SEE THE OUTLINE BUT IT'S DIRECTLY ABUTTING THAT NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE.
>> AS SHOWN, IT WOULD BE BETWEEN THE PROPERTY LINE.
[INAUDIBLE] PARTICULARLY IF IT'S A LARGER PROPERTY LIKE THIS TO NOT FORESTALL FUTURE DEVELOPMENT REMAINDER OF THE PROPERTY.
>> SO IT'S JUST THE WAY THE IMAGE LOOKS.
IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ON THE PROPERTY LINE BUT IT IS.
>> IT IS AT THE EDGE OF THE PROPERTY LINE.
I THINK AS DAMIEN POINTED OUT THERE'S SOME LINE DETAILS THAT ARE MAYBE OBSCURING THE ACTUAL PROPERTY LINE.
>> JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF DECEIVING ON THIS IMAGE.
AND THE OTHER ONE, COULD WE BRING UP THE SAMPLES OF THE EUCALYPTUS TREE BUT I'D LIKE YOU TO PINT OUT TO US WHICH ONE WE PLAN TO SEE THERE OUT OF ALL THOSE IMAGES.
>> CAN I ASK YOU TO BRING THE PRESENTATION BACK UP.
DAMIEN, FULL HELP ME, ARE YOU ABLE TO SEE THIS ON YOUR SCREEN?
>> SO CAN YOU TELL ME WHERE YOU WANT TO STOP TO DESCRIBE.
I THINK IF YOU GO, FOUR OF THESE, I THINK THIS IS WHAT -- BACK ONE MORE.
IS THIS WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR?
BASED ON THIS SCREEN AND WHAT I CAN SEE HERE, THESE ARE ACTUALLY ALL MONO-PINES SO THESE ARE BUILT TO LOOK LIKE A PINE TREE.
DO WE HAVE THE PHOTO SIMS ON THIS PRESENTATION?
>> I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT, HOWEVER, IF YOU CAN GIVE US A MOMENT, WE WILL PULL UP THE FILE.
>> YEAH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE BEST REPRESENTATION OF THIS TOWER.
AND AS A SUGGESTION, IF I AM ABLE TO SHARE MY SCREEN, I CAN SHARE THE PHOTOS ON MY END AS WELL.
>> WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU PERMISSION TO SHARE SCREEN, SO HOLD ON JUST ONE SECOND.
>> DAMIEN, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO SHARE YOUR SCREEN AT THIS TIME.
>> DAMIEN, ARE YOU STILL WITH US?
I WAS MUTED AS I WAS TRYING TO FIND MY -- YES, I WILL SHARE SHORTLY HERE.
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GIVE ME ONE SECOND.YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE HERE NOW, AFTER I SCROLLED A COUPLE OF SCREENS OVER, A VIEW OF OUR PHOTO SIMULATION.
>> CAN ALL COMMISSIONERS SEE WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN?
SO AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, IT'S KIND OF -- AS OPPOSED TO A PALM TREE, WE HAVE MORE BRANCHING GOING ALONG DOWN THE TOWER, SO THAT WOULD PROVIDE BETTER SCREENING FOR A FUTURE CARRIER.
I'VE GOT A COUPLE VIEWS I'LL SCROLL THROUGH SO EACH OF YOU CAN SEE IT FROM A COUPLE DIFFERENT ANGLES.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT FURTHER BACK.
>> JUST FOR THE RECORD, I THINK IT DOES REFERENCE A 70-FOOT POLE BUT THE ACTUAL PROPOSAL IS FOR FIVE FEET, SO JUST FOR PURPOSES PUBLIC RECORD, I'M JUST NOTING THAT.
I THINK THAT'S MY LAST QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
>> COMMISSIONER VAM DEZ, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
>> COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ CEJA VIA ZOOM.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
>> NONE FOR ME ANY JUST HAVE A COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS, DAMIEN.
YOU SAID IT'S ONLY DISABILITY T-MOBILE TO START.
IF WE DO BRING IN OTHER CARRIERS, IT WOULD BE UP TO THREE DIFFERENT CARRIERS, CORRECT?
>> AND SECOND AND POSSIBLE THIRD CARRIER WOULD JUST BE ADDED STILL SOMEWHERE ON THE TRUNK LINE BELOW THE T-MOBILE EQUIPMENT AND WOULD STILL BE SHADED BY ALL THAT FOLIAGE?
AND IF THERE WAS A SECOND OR THIRD CARRIER, DEPENDING ON THEIR EQUIPMENT, THERE MIGHT BE AN ADDITION OF BRANCHES, BUT GENERALLY, YES, THEY'LL BE BELOW AND SCREENED BY THAT.
>> THE EQUIPMENT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE?
ALSO I SEE THE CMU BLOCK ALL THE WAY AROUND THE PROPERTY, AND WHAT WILL THE MATERIAL FOR THE GATE OF THE DRIVEWAY BE MADE OUT OF? WILL THAT BE LIKE A WROUGHT ORION ROLLING GATE? WILL IT BE CHAIN LINK? HOW WILL THAT BE SECURED?
>> AND YOU'RE SPEAKING ABOUT THE GATE TO ENTER THE PROPERTY ITSELF OR TO OUR EQUIPMENT ENCLOSURE?
>> I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE THAT INFORMATION OFFHAND.
LET ME SEE IF I CAN PULL IT UP ON THE PLANS.
THIS MAY NOT BE A PART OF OUR PROPOSAL IF IT'S SOMETHING THE PROPERTY MIGHT BE HANDLING ON THEIR OWN.
BASED OFF THE PHOTO SIMS FOR NOW IT APPEARS TO BE WROUGHT IRON.
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ALSO AT THE SAME HEIGHT, THE 7-FOOT TALL OF THE CMU BLOCK?
>> AGAIN I DON'T HAVE THE SPECIFICS ON THAT BECAUSE IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A PORTION OF OUR PROPOSAL.
SO I'M HESITANT TO SAY A SPECIFIC ANSWER ON THAT.
>> AND YOU KNOW WHAT? I DO SEE A DETAIL HERIES THAT SHOWING THE EXISTING CMU WALL AT 8-FOOT 8 INCHES AND OUR SHELTER AT 7 FEET.
>> THE INTERIOR WALL AROUND THE EQUIPMENT DIRECTLY?
>> CHAIR, I CAN ADD THE PROPERTY PERIMETER PROPERTY FENCE FACING CALHOUN HAS WROUGHT IRON.
THAT WROUGHT IRON INCLUDES THE GATED ACCESS.
>> NEXT, VANESSA, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS MATTER?
>> SEEING THAT THERE WERE NONE, STAFF, IS THERE ANY CLARIFICATION, ANYTHING TO REVIEW?
>> SO AT THIS TIME I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION AMONGST OURSELVES?
SO I UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING UP THAT WE DON'T HAVE THREE OR FOUR PALM TREES.
WE CAN DO THREE ITEMS ON ONE DEVICE.
I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED OF HOW IT'S GOING TO LOOK IN THE AREA BECAUSE IT'S SO DIFFERENT FROM ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE HAVE OUT THERE.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, WE ALL TALK ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT AND HOW WE NEED TO DO MORE WITH LESS, SO THAT IS DEFINITELY A PLUS.
BUT MY CONCERN IS JUST THAT WHEN IT'S PUT UP, THE FOLIAGE IS FULL.
WHEN IT'S DONE, IF THEY ADD OTHER PIECES, IT'S DEFINITELY DIFFERENT AND I'M CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT THE REST OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE TO SAY.
>> COMMISSIONER VALDEZ, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS?
>> COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ CEJA, ANY COMMENTS ON THE MATTER? I BELIEVE YOU'RE MUTED.
I BELIEVE THAT LAST RENDERING KIND OF CEMENTED FOR ME THE WAY THAT I WAS OBSERVING THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IT WOULD BE TOO DRAMATICALLY DIFFERENT, CHANGING THE LANDSCAPE IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA, AND I'M FAMILIAR WITH THAT PARTICULAR AREA, AND I FEEL THAT AS WE'RE THINKING ABOUT DEVELOPMENT, BECAUSE IT'S VERY MUCH NEEDED AND PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING IN THERE, WE SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT THE OVERALL AESTHETIC AND COHESION OF WHAT PROJECTS ARE BEING UP AND SET FORTH IN THAT PARTICULAR REGION THAT NEEDS A LOT OF INVESTMENT.
SO EVEN THOUGH I'M HAPPY THAT THERE'S INTEREST TO START A PROJECT THERE, IT JUST SEEMS THAT THE TYPE OF FORM THAT THE CELL TOWER WOULD TAKE WOULD BE JUST TOO DRAMATIC.
AND EVEN THOUGH WE CANNOT ENFORCE THE PALM TREE STYLE, I JUST THINK IF THERE IS NO WILLINGNESS FROM THE APPLICANT TO CHANGE IT TO THAT OR IF IT'S GOING TO -- IF IT'S MORE COST EFFECTIVE FOR THE APPLICANT TO DO IT IN THAT SENSE, TO DO THE EUCALYPTUS, IT JUST DOESN'T -- IT DOESN'T FIT, IN MY OPINION.
SO THAT'S MY CONCERN AS OF RIGHT NOW.
MY THOUGHTS ON THE MATTER, I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER FRANZ THAT IT IS NICE TO BE ABLE TO DO MORE WITH LESS.
AS FAR AS THE AESTHETIC GOES, I DON'T FEEL THAT EVEN THE PALMS DON'T REALLY HIDE THE EQUIPMENT THAT WELL.
I THINK THE EQUIPMENT IS VERY OBVIOUS.
I THINK THAT THIS EUCALYPTUS DESIGN DOES A BETTER JOB OF SHIELDING THAT.
AND THERE ARE EUCALYPTUS TREES IN SOME OF THE ROUND EVER SURROUNDING AREAS.
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GRANTED THEY'RE NOT 60-FOOT EUCALYPTUS TREES BUT I DO KNOW THERE ARE SOME IN OUR COMMUNITY.I PERSONALLY DO LIKE THE IDEA OF IT PROVIDING A LITTLE BIT OF A BETTER COVER FOR THE EQUIPMENT MYSELF.
AND COMMISSIONER LOPEZ HAS RECUSED HERSELF.
SO AT THIS POINT DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER DELIBERATION OR WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION?
TO APPROVE OR -- [INAUDIBLE] >> OF COURSE.
I'M ASSUMING THIS IS NOT -- THIS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED FOR A WHILE.
THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN -- HAS BEEN VETTED AROUND FOR A WHILE, RIGHT? AND THE COMMUNITY IN THAT AREA, DO WE KNOW IF THERE IS A SHORTAGE OF COVERAGE, LIKE I'M ASSUMING WE WOULD BE PUTTING THEM IN THERE BECAUSE T-MOBILE WOULDN'T BE PUTTING THEM IN IF WE DON'T NEED COVERAGE IN THOSE AREAS, SO I'M ASSUMING THAT THERE IS A NEED IN THE COMMUNITY FOR MORE CELL TOWER, CELLULAR SERVICES, CORRECT?
>> SO CERTAINLY DAMIEN CAN SPEAK TO THE SPECIFICS, BUT TYPICALLY, YOU'RE CORRECT, COMMISSIONER, TYPICALLY THERE IS A SERVICE ANALYSIS DONE BY THE PARTY COMING OF IN TO DETERMINE AREAS OF NEEDED EITHER NEW OR ENHANCED COVERAGE.
ALSO, FOR DIFFERENT OPERATORS THEY MAY HAVE NEED FOR MORE COVERAGE.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, I'M SPECULATING BUT LET'S THAY THAT T-MOBILE WHICH HAS BEEN REFERENCED, WANTED TO COME IN THE AREA OR WANTED TO ENHANCE AND PROVIDE THIS LOCATION AS A BROAD SERVER AREA BOTH IN IMMEDIATE SURROUND CAN AREAS AS WELL AS OTHER FAR AFIELD FROM THE LOCATION.
YOU ARE CORRECT, THE EUCALYPTUS WAS A DISCUSSION ITEM WITH STAFF.
WOULDN'T BACK AND FORTH WITH APPLICANT JUST A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE IT WAS DIFFERENT, AS HAS BEEN POINTED OUT.
I DO BELIEVE THAT THE MONO-PALM, WHICH IS ENCOURAGED BY CITY CODE, DOES HAVE DIFFERENT -- IT DOES HAVE DIFFERENT TYPES COVERAGE THAN THE EUCALYPTUS WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT BE SEEN AS BENEFICIAL BY THE COMMISSION, BUT, YES, THIS IS ON A NON-TECHNICAL BASIS IN TERMS OF THE ANALYTICS, IT'S VERY COMMON FOR THE ANALYSIS TO BE DONE, AND THAT'S WHY THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION WOULD HAVE BEEN DEEMED APPROPRIATE BECAUSE IT HAS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR NEWER ENHANCED.
MY NEXT QUESTION IS ARE THERE ANY OTHER EUCALYPTUS-STYLE CELL TOWERS IN THE VALLEY THAT WE KNOW OF.
I KNOW THERE ARE NONE IN THE CITY.
I CAN'T SPEAK TO ANY IN THE VALLEY.
PERHAPS DAMIEN CAN SPEAK TO THAT, BUT I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY CITY OF INDIO ITSELF SPECIFIC.
>> IF THE APPLICANT CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION, CAN WE REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING?
>> THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN, SO THE APPLICANT CAN ADDRESS COMMISSIONER FRANZ'S QUESTION.
>> YEAH, I UNFORTUNATELY DO NOT KNOW IF THERE'S ANY OTHER MONO-EUCALYPTUSES IN THE VALLEY.
I COULD PROBABLY FIND THAT INFORMATION WITH TIME, BUT I WAS NOT PREPARED TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION AND DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION HANDY.
I WILL SAY, YOU KNOW, IN WORKING THROUGH OTHER JURISDICTIONS, MAYBE NOT IN THE VALLEY, AND I KNOW IT'S MAYBE A DIFFERENT AESTHETIC IN THE CITY, THERE'S GENERALLY MORE POSITIVE FEEDBACK ON THE MONO-EUCALYPTUSES ONCE CONSTRUCTED THAN I WOULD SAY ON THE MONO-PALMS OR EVEN PINES, FOR EXAMPLE.
THEY DO TEND TO OFFER BETTER COVERAGE FOR THE EQUIPMENT THAN THOSE OTHER TYPES OF FAUX TREES.
BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY OTHER MONO-EUCALYPTUSES, NOT THAT THERE ARE NOT.
I JUST DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION OFFHAND.
>> SO, DAMIEN, HAS YOUR COMPANY -- I'M ASSUMING YOU'VE DONE CELL TOWERS FOR A WHILE.
HOW MANY HAVE YOU DONE IN THE VALLEY?
BUT, YES, MOST IN THE VALLEY WOULD PROBABLY BE MONO-PALMS OR PINES, BUT THAT'S NOT TO SAY WE DO A FEW FOR APC TOWERS, VERIZON, T-MOBILE, AT&T, OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPERS HAVE ALSO BUILT TOWERS THAT MAYBE OUR COMPANY IS NOT PRIVY TO THAT INFORMATION.
SO WE'LL KEEP TRACK OF THE TOWERS THAT WE BUILD, BUT WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY
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KEEPING TRACK OF TOWERS THAT SOME OF OUR COMPETITORS OR OTHER CARRIERS WILL BE BUILDING DIRECTLY.>> CHAIR, I ACTUALLY HAVE A QUESTION THAT JUST POPPED INTO MY HEAD FOR THE APPLICANT IF THIS IS OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
MR. PICHARDO, HAVE THERE BEEN ANY INSTANCES WHERE YOU HAVE APPROACHED A CITY PREVIOUSLY WITH A DESIGN THAT WASN'T FITTING INTO THE AESTHETIC AND WERE YOU ABLE TO STILL MOVE THAT PROJECT AHEAD? CAN YOU THINK OF AN INSTANCE WHEN THAT HAS HAPPENED?
THERE'S OFTEN INSTANCES LIKE WE HAD WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT THROUGH THIS PROJECT WHERE THERE WILL BE THOSE DISCUSSIONS THROUGH THE PLANNING APPLICATION PROCESS, AND WE OFTEN TYPICALLY, WE WANT TO WORK WITH THE CITY TO HAVE A DESIGN THAT WORKS FOR THE CITY, THE CARRIERS, OURSELVES AND THE COMMUNITY AND THE PROPERTY OWNER.
SO, YEAH, WE DO TAKE ALL OF THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AND WE THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THIS, ESPECIALLY WITH OUR KIND OF BUSINESS MODEL ON ENCOURAGING OTHER CARRIERS TO COME AND CO-LOCATE, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A DESIGN THAT IS SUITABLE FOR FUTURE CO-LOCATION.
IT ONLY BENEFITS US IN THAT WE CAN HAVE THAT POTENTIAL OTHER CARRIER ON OUR TOWER, BUT IT ALSO BENEFITS THE CITY AND COMMUNITY THAT YOU'RE KIND OF LIMITING THE AMOUNT OF TOWERS IN THE AREA.
>> AND ONE MORE THING, ACTUALLY.
DID YOU -- I KNOW THAT MR. SNYDER SHARED THAT THERE'S DEFINITELY BEEN A STUDY, I'M ASSUMING YOUR TEAM PUT TOGETHER, TO IDENTIFY THE LOCATION OF WHERE THIS TOWER COULD GO.
HAVE YOU CONSIDERED OTHER LOCATIONS THAT ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE SUCH A DRASTIC IMPACT TO THE LANDSCAPE?
SO I'LL GO BACK INTO KIND OF THE HISTORY OF HOW THIS AREA IS PRESENTED TO OURSELVES, APC TOWERS.
WE HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH T-MOBILE.
THEY ESSENTIALLY PROVIDE US LOCATIONS IN WHICH THEIR SERVICE IS LACKING 1 EITHER IN COVERAGE OR CAPACITY, AND THEY'LL GIVE US A PRETTY SMALL AREA, LET'S SAY A CIRCLE ON A MAP, PRETTY SMALL AREA TO FIND A LOCATION TO INSTALL A TOWER THAT'S GOING TO INTEGRATE INTO THEIR NETWORK SEAMLESSLY.
SO THE EXTENT TO WHICH WE WOULD EXPLORE OUTSIDE OF THIS LOCATION WOULD MAYBE BE LESS THAN A QUARTER MILE IN EACH DIRECTION, SO ESSENTIALLY YOU'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING TO INSTALL A TOWER IN GENERALLY THE SAME ENVIRONMENT.
I DON'T THINK A NEW LOCATION, LET'S SAY ON THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR, WOULD HAVE MUCH OF A DIFFERENT IMPACT THAN THE LOCATION SELECTED HERE.
>> AND THIS IS MY LAST QUESTION.
THE WILLINGNESS TO PUT THIS PARTICULAR STYLE IS SO THAT IT'S AVAILABLE FOR ADD-ONS LATER.
CURRENTLY YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY AGREEMENT WITH ANY OTHER CELL PHONE CARRIERS THAT WOULD GUARANTEE THAT THIS WILL BE UTILIZED MAXIMIZED IF WE WENT WITH THIS STYLE?
>> THAT IS CORRECT IN THAT WE DO NOT HAVE AGREEMENTS WITH OTHER CARRIERS AT THIS TIME.
AGAIN, OUR BUSINESS MODEL IS TO DO THAT, SO WE WILL WORK WITH THESE OTHER CARRIERS AND WE HAVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH THEM IN WHICH WE'LL MARKET ESSENTIALLY THIS TOWER TO THOSE FUTURE FACILITIES, AND IF THEY DO SEE A NEED BE WITH THEN WE HOPE THAT THEY WILL COME IN AND CO-LOCATE ON THIS TOWER AS WELL.
>> JUST FOR CLARIFICATION PURPOSES, THE MONO-PALM WOULD WORK CURRENTLY FOR THE PROVIDER THAT YOU DO HAVE SIGNED ON IF YOU DID CHANGE THE STYLE TO A MONO-PALM, YOU WOULD BE ESSENTIALLY MEETING THE DEMAND AND PLEASING YOUR CLIENT.
THIS IS JUST FOR POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES IN THE FUTURE.
>> THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING OUR QUESTIONS.
DOES THAT CLEAR EVERYTHING UP FOR THE COMMISSION?
WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO -- >> CHAIR, IF I MIGHT SUGGEST.
>> I'D LIKE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE.
>> I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO ASK ANOTHER QUESTION OF STAFF BEFORE WE MOVE ON.
SO THE REQUEST TODAY IS NOT ONLY FOR THE USE, RIGHT, THE ABILITY TO PUT A CELL TOWER ON THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION.
IT IS ALSO FOR THE DESIGN AND STYLE OF THE CELL TOWER, CORRECT? SO WE'RE ALMOST APPROVING -- IS IT TWO THINGS OR IS IT ALL OR NOTHING?
>> SO YOU'RE ONLY APPROVING THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
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BASED ON OUR CURRENT REGULATORY STRUCTURE FOR WEILER FACILITIES, IT'S NOT TYPICALLY SUBJECT TO DESIGN REVIEW.CITIES HAVE LIMITED AUTHORITY BASED ON THE DESIGN USE BASED ON FEDERAL REGULATIONS, SO THE ACTUAL ITEM IN FRONT OF YOU THIS EVENING IS THE USE, THE CONDITIONAL USE, SO THAT IS THE USE ALLOWANCE.
AS PART OF THAT THE STEALTH DESIGN METHOD WHICH IS BEING AS THE FAUX EUCALYPTUS IS CONSIDERED AS WELL BUT THE ACTUAL DESIGN OF FACILITIES IS TYPICALLY -- WE HAVE VERY LIMITED AUTHORITY UNDER FEDERAL REGULATIONS, SO THE CMU BLOCK WALL AND THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION, THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT TYPICALLY THE COMMISSION WOULD GET INTO.
THIS EVENING, THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
>> SO JUST TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND, CITY ATTORNEY, WE'RE APPROVING THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, SO WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO ADD A CONDITION THAT APPROVES THE CONDITIONAL USE BUT LIMITS IT TO THE MONO-PALM? DESIGN?
>> SO IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY YOU'RE ASKING IF YOU COULD APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT UPON THE CONDITION THAT THE DESIGN BE MONO-PALM RATHER THAN THE PROPOSED EUCALYPTUS?
>> I THINK THEORETICALLY YOU COULD DO THAT.
THE MOTION AND THE PROPOSED FINDINGS DON'T SUPPORT THAT.
WHAT YOU CAN'T DO UNDER FEDERAL REGULATIONS WOULD BE TO UNREASONABLY DISCRIMINATE AGAINST PROVIDERS OF EQUIVALENT SERVICES, SO AMONGST T-MOBILE OR SOMEBODY ELSE, TO THE EFFECT OF PROVIDING WIRELESS SERVICES OR IN ANY SORT OF DENIAL WOULD HAVE TO BE IN WRITING SUPPORTED BY FINDINGS.
THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING OF YOUR QUESTION.
BACK TO THE KIND OF GENESIS IN THE CODE, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THIS IS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT BECAUSE OF THE LOCATION IT'S SITTING ON IS VACANT PROPERTY.
USUALLY THESE PROJECTS OFTEN GO THROUGH THE ADMINISTRATIVE USE PERMIT ROUTE, BUT BECAUSE THIS IS A VACANT PROPERTY, IT IS PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSION AS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
>> AND IF I COULD ADD TO THE CITY ATTORNEY, I DO BELIEVE IT'S WITHIN THE DISCRETIONARY AUTHORITY OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO SPECIFY A DESIGN OTHER THAN WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED BECAUSE, AGAIN, THE WAY THE CURRENT REGULATIONS ARE WRITTEN, IT ENCOURAGES MONO-PALM BUT DOES NOT INHIBIT OTHER DESIGNS, SO AS PART OF YOUR CONDITIONAL USE FOR CONSIDERATION, YOU COULD MODIFY THE LANGUAGE THAT IS CURRENTLY IN THE RESOLUTION AS THE CITY ATTORNEY SAID, TO SPECIFY A DESIGN OTHER THAN EUCALYPTUS.
WHETHER OR NOT THAT WORKS FOR APC TOWERS, THAT IS A PRATT QUESTION BUT AS I THINK THE CITY ATTORNEY SAID YOU ARE ACTING WITHIN YOUR DISCRETIONARY AUTHORITY IF YOU WANT TO MODIFY THE STRENGTH DESIGN.
I BELIEVE YOU WOULD JUST HAVE TO MAKE FINDINGS APPROPRIATE TO THAT AND MODIFY THE LANGUAGE IF YOU ARE TO ALTER WHAT IS PROPOSED IN THE STAFF RECOMMENDING.
>> SO AT THIS POINT WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION WITH ANY AMENDMENTS TO IT OR
WHERE ARE WE AT, KEVIN, IF NOBODY'S -- >> SO THE COMMISSION -- IF YOU FAIL TO MAKE A MOTION, THEN OBVIOUSLY THAT IS -- THE PROJECT WILL NOT MOVE FORWARD.
THE COMMISSION HAS TWO OPTIONS.
YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION AS PRESENTED.
THAT WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE PROPOSED FAUX EUCALYPTUS STEALTH DESIGN.
IF THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMISSION WANTS TO GO WITH AN OTHER DESIGN SUCH AS THE MONO-PALM DESIGN, THEN YOU WOULD NEED TO -- AS THE CITY ATTORNEY SAID, YOU WOULD HAVE TO MAKE FINDINGS AS TO THE BASIS FOR THAT, AS WELL AS THERE ARE SPECIFICALLY IN THE RESOLUTION THAT DO SPECIFY THE FAUX EUCALYPTUS, SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MODIFY IT, AND THE CITY ATTORNEY AND I CAN ASSIST, YOU THE COMMISSION, IN MODIFYING THAT CONDITION WHERE THE REFERENCE TO THE FAUX EUCALYPTUS IS IN THE RESOLUTION SO THAT IT REFERENCES CORRECTLY WHAT THE COMMISSION'S DESIGN PREFERENCE IS AS PART OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CONSIDERATION.
CITY ATTORNEY, IF I'VE SAID IT WRONG OR NOT CLEARLY ENOUGH, PLEASE JUMP IN.
>> NO, I THINK THOSE ARE ACCURATE OPTIONS THAT THE COMMISSION HAS.
>> JUST A QUICK QUESTION FOR OUR ATTORNEY.
SO WOULD WE SETTING A PRECEDENT IF WE -- IF WE WERE TO MOVE WITH A MOTION ADOPTING THE RESOLUTION WITH THESE CONDITIONS, WOULD WE BE SENT SETTING A PRECEDENT FOR ANY FUTURE CELL TOWERS THAT WERE COMING INTO THE AREA NOW?
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BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED EARLIER THAT WE MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, IN SOME FORM OF DISCRIMINATION AGAINST OTHER CARRIERS, AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE MOVE SOMETHING FORWARD, THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO SET SOMETHING IN STONE THAT WOULD THEN PUT US INTO -- IN THE FUTURE.>> IT WOULDN'T SET ANY SORT OF LEGAL PRECEDENTS THAT SUBSEQUENT APPLICATION WOULD HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED WITH THE SAME CONDITION.
THESE ARE ADJUDICATORY DECISIONS THAT ARE BASED UPON THE COMMISSION.
IT WOULD BE KNOWN IN PUBLIC RECORD THAT THIS SORT OF APPLICATION WAS APPROVED WITH X AND X CONDITIONS, BUT I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THERE WOULD BE ANY SORT OF LEGAL PRECEDENT REQUIRING A SUBSEQUENT APPLICATION TO BE -- TO INCLUDE THE SAME CONDITIONS.
>> CHAIR, CAN I HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL CLARIFICATION? SO IF THE COMMISSION DOES DECIDE TO GO 1 AN ALTERNATE DESIGN OTHER THAN THE FAUX EUCALYPTUS, QUICKLY LOOKING THROUGH IT APPEARS THE ONLY SPECIFIC REFERENCE TO FAUX EUCALYPTUS IS ON PAGE 22 OF 37, GENERAL CONDITION OF APPROVAL A1.
SO THAT WOULD BE THE CONDITION THAT YOU WOULD NEED TO SPECIFICALLY MODIFY IF YOU WERE SO INCLINED TO PROPOSE AND TAKE ACTION ON A ALTERNATE CONSIDERATION, SO WE WOULD JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE YOUR MOTION, ANY MOTION ADOPTING THE RESOLUTION, WHETHER IT WAS A DESIRE TO HAVE AN ALTERNATE DESIGN, WE NEED TO SPECIFICALLY REFERENCE A MODIFICATION TO THAT CONDITION WITH A STATED FINDING AS TO WHY THAT IS BEING MODIFIED.
IT WOULD BE SOMETHING FOR THE COMMISSION TO CONSIDER AS TO CREATING A FINDING AS TO WHY YOU ARE RECOMMENDING OR CONDITIONING THE ALTERNATIVE DESIGN RATHER THAN THE EUCALYPTUS, PROPOSED EUCALYPTUS DESIGN.
>> KEVIN, ANOTHER QUESTION FOR YOU.
AS STATED, A LOT OF THESE CELLULAR TOWERS DO NOT COME BEFORE US, SO IT'S BEING INSTALLED IN A PROPERTY THAT'S ALREADY BEING DEVELOPED, THEY JUST COME TO PLANNING AND YOU GUYS APPROVE THEM, CORRECT? SO AS VICE CHAIR, AS RODRIGUEZ CEJA STATED IF WE APPROVE THIS AS A EUCALYPTUS DESIGN, WOULDN'T THAT BASICALLY GREENLIGHT POSSIBLY FOR PLANNING IF ANOTHER EUCALYPTUS CAME TO THE PLANNING DESK? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW YOU LOOK AT THEM AND YOU SAY, EVERYTHING'S A MONO-PALM, RIGHT? SO IT'S JUST KIND OF THE WAY IT'S BEEN.
SO I KNOW IT ISN'T SETTING PRECEDENCE LEGALLY, BUT WOULDN'T IT KIND OF CREATE THAT?
>> SO I THINK THE PATTERN TO DATE HAS BEEN FOR MOST CARRIERS OR MOST COMPANIES THAT COME IN TO PROPOSE THESE HAS BEEN IN THE MONO-PALM DESIGN.
IT'S JUST BEEN A BUSINESS PRACTICE, IF YOU WILL, ON THE PART OF THEM.
IF THIS WAS BEING CONSIDERED BY STAFF IN THE FUTURE, I WOULDN'T SAY THAT WE WOULDN'T CONSIDER IT.
I DON'T THINK, AS -- THERE IS NO LEGAL PRECEDENT.
CERTAINLY, I THINK IT WOULD BE SOMEWHAT SITUATIONAL DEPENDING ON THE SURROUNDING AREA, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THIS WAS BEING PROPOSED IN A -- ON A SITE WHERE THERE WAS A GROUP OF PALM TREES, THIS MIGHT LOOK OUT OF CHARACTER, IF IT WAS A EUCALYPTUS DESIGN WE MIGHT WANT TO STICK WITH THE MONO-PALM DESIGN FOR CONSISTENCY WITH KIND OF THE LANDSCAPE ENVIRONMENT.
SO I THINK IT'S HARD TO ANSWER ANYTHING INCLUSIVELY OTHER THAN TO SAY WE WOULD LOOK AT IT ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS AND LOOK AT THE CHARACTERISTICS OF PROPERTY IT'S BEING PROPOSED ON AS WELL AS THE SURROUNDING AREA AND MAKE A DETERMINATION OF APPROPRIATENESS.
>> IF I MAY, DAMIEN DOES HAVE HIS HAND RAISED.
IS HE ALLOWED TO SPEAK ONCE MORE? CITY ATTORNEY.
>> YES, IT WOULD BE UP TO THE CHAIR WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD WANT TO REOPEN THE HEARING.
I WOULD LIKE TO REOPEN THE HEARING AND HEAR FROM DAMIEN.
I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT OAT EUCALYPTUS AGAIN AND JUST REITERATE OUR INTENT WITH IT.
PROPOSING A MONO-PALM WITH OUR BUSINESS MODEL AND OUR BUSINESS PRACTICE IS GOING TO BE VERY LIMITING TO OUR BUSINESS MODEL TO KIND OF ACQUIRE THOSE SECONDARY OR TERTIARY TENANT CARRIERS, SO I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THAT THIS MODEL EUC IS HELPING US LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF TOYS ARE IN THE AREA, CONDENSE IT INTO ONE
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LOCATION.YOU GUYS HAVE PROBABLY EXPERIENCED IT IN THE PAST.
I DON'T KNOW IF UHDE YOU'VE HAD CO-LOCATION ON MONO-PALMS BUT TYPICALLY YOU'RE LOOKING A INSTALLING BELOW THE EXISTING FRONDS AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE EXTREMELY VISIBLE.
YOU'RE ALMOST ESSENTIALLY APPROVING A MONO POLE AT THAT POINT.
AND BECAUSE THAT IS CO-LOCATED, THAT IS SOMETHING AS WELL THAT I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT GOES IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION.
A SECOND CARRIER A MONO-PALM MIGHT GET APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVELY WHERE YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE INPUT ON CONSTITUTIONAL ANTENNAS THAT ARE NOW ESSENTIALLY UNSCREENED.
>> CAN I ASK HIM A QUESTION? DAMIEN, SINCE WE'RE BACK ON PUBLIC HEARING, LET ME ASK YOU A QUICK QUESTION.
YOU KNOW, WE ALL WORRY ABOUT RESOURCES AND OUR ENVIRONMENT.
IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF RESOURCES THAT IT TAKES TO INSTALL THIS EUCALYPTUS TREE VERSUS A MONO-PALM AND THEN IF WE WANTED OTHER CARRIERS, YOU'D HAVE TO INSTALL ANOTHER MONO-PALM MAYBE OR SOME OTHER TYPE OF DEVICE.
IS THERE ANY TYPE OF ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFIT TO THE EUCALYPTUS TREE SUPERIORS THE TRADITIONAL MONO-PALM? VERSUS THE TRADITIONAL MONO-PALM?
>> I'M GOING TO TRY TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION THE BEST I CAN.
I MEAN, NUMBER ONE WOULD BE SPACE, RIGHT, TAKING UP LESS SPACE BY HAVING LESS TOWERS AND FACILITIES.
NUMBER TWO, IF YOU'RE SPEAKING ABOUT MATERIALS, YES, WE NEED LESS STEEL, FOR EXAMPLE, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT ONLY BUILDING ONE POLE AS OPPOSED TO THREE.
YOU MIGHT, YOU KNOW, HAVE LESS BLOCK WALLS OR CEMENT FOUNDATION WITH ONE FACILITY AS OPPOSED TO THREE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S KIND OF WHAT YOU'RE GETTING AT.
YOU KNOW, I GUESS THERE WOULD BE A SLIGHT BENEFIT.
I WOULD SAY THE BIGGEST BENEFIT OF IT IS IN TERMS OF SPACE AND AESTHETICS OF HAVING LESS POLES.
AT THIS POINT WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AGAIN.
>> ANOTHER QUESTION FOR STAFF.
-- WE FORGOT HOW TO DO THESE MEETINGS, RIGHT? SO THE AREA SURROUNDING IT, THIS IS 65 FEET TALL, SO WHETHER IT'S A MONO-PALM OR A EUCALYPTUS TREE, IT'S REALLY GOING TO STAND OUT.
WHAT -- WHAT IS THE AUTONOMIEST BUILDING IN THE SURROUND D.
TALLEST BUILDING IN SURROUNDING AREA OR WHAT DO WE THINK THAT CAN BE BUILT? IS THERE ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO DWARF THIS IN THE FUTURE REGARDLESS OF WHICH WAY WE GO?
>> IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA, I'M LINING AT GOOGLE MAPS RIGHT NOW, YOU'RE PROBABLY LINING AT THE TALLEST ARE THE TWO STORY MULTIPLE FAMILY APARTMENTS ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS SITE.
THERE ARE PROBABLY APPROXIMATELY EYE BALLING I'M GOING TO SAY THE IN RANGE OF 22 TO 24 FEET TALL, SO IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY TALLER THAN THAT, ALTHOUGH YOU DO HAVE EXISTING DATE PALMS THAT ARE PROBABLY ANYWHERE FROM 50 TO 75 FEET TALL ON THAT PROPERTY AND THE SURROUNDING AREA BECAUSE THEY'RE VERY MATURE.
>> AND THOSE DATE PALMS YOU ARE SPEAKING OF ARE THE MULTI-FAMILY UNITS ACROSS THE STREET?
THE MAJORITY OF THEM, AND THERE ARE SOME IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH OF THIS PROPERTY THAT ARE PROBABLY IN THE SAME HEIGHT RANGE, CHAIR, BUT THEIR A LITTLE BIT FURTHER THAN DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET AS THE ONES I JUST REFERENCED ARE.
>> AND THE MAJORITY OF BUILDINGS IN THAT AREA ON THAT SIDE OF THE STREET ARE PROCEED DOMINANTLY SINGLE STORY, KIND OF COMMERCIAL UNITS, CORRECT?
>> THEY ARE PRIMARILY SINGLE STORY, A COMBINATION OF COMMERCIAL AND/OR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL BUILDING.
TYPICALLY YOU'RE LOOKING AT MAYBE THEY MIGHT HAVE ROOF HEIGHTS OF ANYWHERE, SAY, I WOULD SAY ANYWHERE FROM 18 TO 20 FEET, BUT REALLY NO HIGHER THAN THAT.
>> CHAIR, IF I CAN JUST ADD A COMMENT.
I DON'T KNOW IF -- WE'RE STILL IN DELIBERATIONS.
I THINK WE'RE HAVING A HARD TIME.
WE'RE ASKING ALL THESE QUESTIONS BECAUSE WE SEE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET A DEMAND AND A NEED WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY BUT WE ALSO SEE THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE A VERY BIG IMPACT ON THIS PARTICULAR COMMUNITY, A COMMUNITY THAT WE KNOW TEND TO BE LOW INCOME, TENDS TO HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS THAT HANG OUT IN THAT PARTICULAR REGION, TRANSIENTS AND SUCH, AND SO I THINK THAT WE REALLY NEED TO START
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CONSIDERING WHEN WE START GETTING THESE TYPES OF APPLICATIONS, YOU KNOW, WHERE ARE THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS BEING PROPOSED.IS THEY'RE BEING PROPOSED ACROSS THE BOARD EVENLY IN AN EQUITABLE DISTRIBUTION ACROSS THE CITY OR THEY BEING TARGETED WHERE WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE PARTICULAR AREAS THAT MIGHT NOT BE AS -- AS VISITED BY THE LARGER COMMUNITY.
AND SO I THINK THAT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE CONSIDERING WHY WE'RE HAVING SUCH A DIFFICULT TIME WITH THIS, AND REALLY THINK ABOUT WHAT WE WOULD BE DOING TO THIS PARTICULAR COMMUNITY IF WE WERE TO ALLOW ANY OF THE STYLES, WHETHER IT BE A PALM TREE, WHETHER IT BE EUCALYPTUS, AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO CONSIDER, I THINK COMMISSIONER FRANZ BROUGHT UP A REALLY GOOD POINT, I THINK THIS WOULD CREATE AN ENCOURAGEMENT FOR FUTURE PROJECTS LIKE THIS ONE TO SAY, WELL, IF THE ONE TIME IT CAME TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION THEY WENT AHEAD AND MOVED WITH IT, YOU KNOW, WHY NOT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT AS A POTENTIAL, YOU KNOW, AS YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THE DECISION THAT YOU WILL BE MAKING, THESE ARE THE THOUGHTS THAT I AM CONSIDERING AS I'M THINKING ABOUT MY DECISION.
>> IF I COULD, PLANNING COMMISSION, I JUST WANT -- AND I'M IN NO WAY TAKING SIDES BUT I THINK THE POINT SHOULD BE NOTED.
IT WAS STATED EARLIER THAT THIS IS INTENDED TO BE MORE SCREENING, AND THIS COMMISSION -- I'M NOT GOING TO SAY ALL THE MEMBERS BECAUSE THIS HAS OCCURRED OVER A PERIOD OF TIME.
FOR EXAMPLE, I'M LOOKING A GOOGLE MAPS.
THERE'S THREE IN A ROW, CELLULAR TOWERS THAT WERE APPROVED DOWN BY THE EMPIRE POLO CLUB.
IF YOU'VE DRIVEN DOWN THERE, YOU DO SEE THE THAT FOLIAGE OR THE FAUX FOLIAGE IS AT THE TOP, DOESN'T COMPLETELY SCREEN IN ANY WAY THE EQUIPMENT, AND IT DOES NOT NECESSARILY PROVIDE A LEVEL OF SCREENING.
TYPICALLY STEALTH DESIGN, AND IT'S HARD WITH THE MONO-PALM DESIGN BECAUSE IT'S NOT INTENDED TO BE SCREENING, PER SE.
SO IN TERMS OF DESIGN CONSIDERATIONS, CERTAINLY THE EUCALYPTUS, WHETHER THE COMMISSION DESIGNS, IT WILL PROBABLY PROVIDE A HIGHER LEVEL OF SCREENING PARTICULARLY IF THERE'S GOING TO BE MULTIPLE CARRIER CONSIDERATIONS ON THAT IN THE FUTURE.
THESE PARTICULAR ONES, YOU KNOW, LITERALLY THE ONLY FOLIAGE IS AT THE VERY TOP.
THERE'S NOTHING THAT GOES DOWN.
AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING ADDED, THERE WILL BE PALMS ADDED FOR COVERAGE, BUT IT WILL NOT GENE.
THE EUCALYPTUS IS DIFFERENT CERTAINLY.
IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT IS NOT COMMON IN OUR CITY AND PERHAPS NOT EVEN IN THE VALLEY, BUT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF SCREENING AND STEALTHINESS, IT MAY BE MORE COVERING THAN THE MONO-PALM HAS TYPICALLY BEEN AND THAT YOU HAVE SEEN AS YOU DRIVE AROUND THE COMMUNITY.
I JUST WANT TO SHARE THAT PERSPECTIVE.
AGAIN I'M NOT TAKING SIDES AND CERTAINLY IT'S THE COMMISSION'S DISCRETION ON HOW YOU DECIDE.
BUT IT IS A DIFFERENT DESIGN AESTHETIC THAT I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT.
>> YEAH, I'D LIKE TO ADD THAT I PERSONALLY AM NOT A BIG FAN OF THE MONO-PALM UNITS THAT I'VE SEEN AROUND THE VALLEY.
I'VE NOTICED SOME IN INDIO AND DETER CENTER AND PALM DESERT.
I DO LIKE THE FACT THAT THE EUCALYPTUS LOOK A LITTLE BIT MORE NATURAL AND IT CAN HIDE THE EQUIPMENT AND IF IT CAN HIDE THE EQUIPMENT FOR POSSIBLY THREE CARRIERS IN THIS SAME SPACE, MORE OR LESS AS ONE SINGLE MONO-PALM, I THINK THAT WOULD BE TO A BENEFIT TO THAT AREA OF INDIO.
JUST TO POINT OUT AT THIS POINT FOR ANY CONSIDERATION THERE IS A NEED FOR A MOTION ACTION, AND WHATEVER -- AND THEN IF YOU ARE GOING TO PROPOSAL AN ALTERNATE, THE CITY ATTORNEY AND YOU CAN ASSIST AS NEEDED TO HELP YOU IN DEVELOPING THE NECESSARY FINDINGS AND CHANGES TO THE REFERENCED CONDITION I STATED EARLIER.
>> IS IT APPROPRIATE FOR THE CHAIR TO MAKE A MOTION IN.
IT'S BEEN A LITTLE WHILE, GUYS.
I MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPTS RESOLUTION NUMBER 2008, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF INDIO TO APPROVE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 21-07-1068 AUTHORIZING CONSTRUCTION AFTER 65-FOOT TALL WIRELESS FACILITY DESIGNED AS A FAUX EUCALYPTUS TREE WITH AN ACCOMPANYING 7-FOOT HIGH CMU WALL ENCLOSURE WITHIN A VACANT PROPERTY SUBJECT TO THE FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL INCLUDING THEREIN AND DETERMINING THAT PROJECT IS EXEMPT FROM THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT.
>> CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
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>> VICE CHAIRPERSON RODRIGUEZ CEJA.
>> CHAIR, CAN WE ASK FOR A BRIEF TWO TO THREE-MINUTE RECESS WHILE WE GO GRAB THE CHAIRPERSON -- THE COMMISSIONER, AND I'M ALSO GOING TO RUN AND GRAB MY BATTERY.
MY COMPUTER IS ABOUT READY TO GO OUT.
[RECESS] [INAUDIBLE] JUST RECEIVED ANOTHER MESSAGE THAT NOTHING IS GOING OUT SEE A ZOOM.
>> DO WE NEED TO TAKE A BREAK? TARA, IF WE COULD ASK FOR A BREAK SO WE CAN DEAL WITH OUR TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES.
WE'LL BE TAKING A SHORT BREAK TO ADDRESS -- I CAN HEAR YOU ALL NOW.
DO WE NEED TO RESTATE NOTHING.
>> I'D RECOMMEND WE GO BACK TO THE TOP OF THE ITEM.
DIRECTOR SNYDER, A COUPLE WORDS HOPEFULLY BUT JUST FOR ALL DISCLOSURE.
[6.2. Tentative Parcel Map No. 38241 (TPM 21-09-412)]
>> LIKE FULL DISCLOSURE THIS IS LIKE GETTING BACK A BIKE, SO AS YOU KNOW I WAS HERE SUPPORTING OTHER STAFF.
THIS IS GOOD FOR ME TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE PRACTICE SO I DON'T MIND AT ALL.
AGAIN, FOR THE RECORD, KEVIN SNYDER, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
THE ITEM BEFORE YOU THIS EVEN IS TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 382441NESS THE SUBDIVISION OF A EXISTING 5-ACRE PARCEL IN THE SOUTHEAST PORTION OF OUR CITY.
IT PROPOSES THE SUBDIVISION OF THAT 5-ACRE PARCEL INTO TWO PARCELS, PARCEL 1 WOULD BE PROPOSED AT 2.01 GROSS ACRES, PARCEL 2 AT 3.02 GROSS ACRES.
THE SPECIFIED PURPOSE FOR THE SUBDIVISION IS FOR THE SALE, LEASE OR FINANCING OF TWO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PARCELS AND ARE THE SUBDIVISION MAP ACT DOES FIND THIS AS PART OF THIS CONSIDERATION SUBDIVISION OF LAND IT IS FOUNDER TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE ADOPTED GENERAL PLAN WHICH IS THE INDIO GENERAL PLAN 2040 THAT WAS ADOPTED ON SEPTEMBER 18, 2019, THAT THIS COMMISSION ASSISTED IN AS PART OF ITS RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
PER THE ELLEN J PLAN 2040, THIS PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY DESIGNATED WITH A DESERT ESTATES NEEDS ARE OR DEN LAND USE DESIGNATION.
THIS PARTICULAR LAND USE DESIGNATION SPECIFIES THE DENSITY OF ONE DWELLING INNUENDO PER ACRE.
THE CURRENT IS COUNTRY ESTATES 2, CE-2 WHICH HAS A MINIMUM LOT SANITIZE OF 2 ACRES FOR EACH OF THE PARCELS.
THIS IS A COPY OF THE PROPOSED TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP SHOWING THE SUBDIVISION OF EXISTING PARCEL.
AGAIN, THIS IS ALL IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT WAS PROVIDED TO YOU PREVIOUSLY.
THE PROJECT IS CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT FROM THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT.
IT QUALIFIES UNDER THE CEQA GUIDELINES SECTION 15315, MINOR LAND DIVISION, CLASS 15.
SO THEREFORE, THERE WAS NO SUBSTANTIVE CEQA ANALYSIS REQUIRED.
THE LOT SIZES MEET THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CE-2 OR COUNTRY ESTATES 2 ZONING WHICH AGAIN IS A MINIMUM OF 2 ACRES.
PROPOSED DENSITY IS 0.4 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE, WHICH IS BELOW UP TO 1.0 OF
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DEN GENERAL PLAN LAND USING DESIGNATION.SO THIS TABLE -- YOUR STAFF REPORT CONTAINS SUBSTANTIVE FINDINGS AND CONCLUSIONS OF COMPLIANCE WITH THE SUBDIVISION MAP ACT.
THIS IS A SUMMARY TABLE ADDRESSING EAST OF OTHERS THAT FOUNDING REQUIRED AND THE RED CHECKMARKS INDICATE THAT AS DOCUMENTED IN THE STAFF REPORT, THERE WERE POSITIVE FINDINGS FOR ALL OF THESE REQUIRED ISSUE AREAS.
SO IF FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE AND CONDUCTING THE STAFF REPORT, PREPARING THE STAFF REPORT AND CONDUCTING ANALYSIS FOR THAT, THERE IS COMPLIANCE WITH THE SUBDIVISION MAP ACT.
SO IN GENERAL, THIS PROJECT DOES COMPLY WITH APPLICABLE REGULATIONS, BOTH CITY AND STATE.
IT DOES MEET THE STANDARDS AND GUIDELINES.
AS A REMINDER OF TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP IS A RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO CITY COUNCIL, SO YOUR ACTION THIS EVENING, WHETHER POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE, WILL BE IN THE FORM ULTIMATELY OF A RECOMMENDING TO CITY COUNCIL.
IT WILL GO TO CITY COUNCIL FOR SEPARATE AND SUBSEQUENT CONSIDERATION WHERE THEY MAY TAKE ACTION TO AGREE OR OTHER ACTION THAT COULD INCLUDE APPROVING IT IF THE COMMISSION WAS, FOR EXAMPLE, TO RECOMMEND DENIAL, SO JUST A REMINDER.
AND THEN IF IT IS ULTIMATELY APPROVED, THE TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP DOES NOT CREATE THE LOTS, PER SE.
THAT REQUIRES WHAT'S CALLED A FINAL MAP ACTION.
AND AS MANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS ARE FAMILIAR WITH.
THAT IS ULTIMATELY ACTION TAKEN BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
AND THEN FOLLOWING THAT IT IS ULTIMATE RECORDED AND IT IS ONLY THEN THAT LOTS ARE LEGALLY CREATED.
SO WE'RE KIND OF IN THE PAPER PORTION OF THIS PROCESS, IF YOU WILL, WHERE THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS MAHOGANY THE INITIAL RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL.
THE MAKING THE INITIAL RECOMMENDING.
STAFF IS THE RIDGE THAT YOU DO ADOPT RESOLUTION 2009 WHICH IS A RECOMMENDATION RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL THAT THEY APPROVEFULLY 8241 TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP AND FINDING THAT IT IS EXEMPT FROM THE REQUIREMENTS OF CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL A QUALITY ACT.
WITH THAT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, AND WHEN YOU DO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, I KNOW THAT BOTH MR. KIM AND HIS CONSULTANT, MR. EGAN, ARE AVAILABLE TO PROVIDE A PRESENTATION AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE COMMISSION MIGHT HAVE.
COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF BEFORE WE OPEN UP PUBLIC HEARING? I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR STAFF.
AND WE'LL COME BACK TO COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ CEJA IF HE HAS ANY QUESTIONS.
SO WE'RE PROPOSING THAT CURRENTLY ZONING ALLOWS ONE DWELLING UNIT PER ACRE, AND WE'RE PROPOSING TO, INC.
>> TO CLARIFY, THE GENERAL PLAN DESIGNATION WHICH IS DIFFERENT FROM THE ZONING DESIGNATION IN THIS INSTANCE, SO GENERAL PLAN DESIGNATION IS DESERT ESTATE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THAT ALLOWS A MAXIMUM DENSITY OF 1.0 TELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
P THE COUNTRY ESTATES IS THE ZONING DESIGNATION THAT SPECIFIES THAT THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE BE 2 ACRES.
SO BASED ON BOTH THOSE FACTORS, THE DENSITY WILL BE 0.4 DWELLING UNITS TO THE ACRE, SO THAT IS BELOW THE 1 ONE POINT SO IT'S IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE THAT IS THE PRIMARY DETERMINING.
IT IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH DENSITY REQUIREMENTS OF THE GENERAL PLAN.
AND IT IS ALSO IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE LOT SIZE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CURRENT ZONING DESIGNATION.
4 PER ACRE, IT WOULD ALLOW UP TO HOW MANY ON THE 2 ACRES PARCEL AND HOW MANY ON THE 3 ACRES IN.
>> SO THE DESERT ESTATE NEIGHBORHOOD ONLY ALLOWS ONE DWELL UNITS PER PARCEL SO THERE WILL ONLY BE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DEVELOP ONE DWELLING UNIT PER PARCEL.
I WILL CAVEAT THAT THAT SIMILAR TO ALL LOT IN THE CITY, SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY'S ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS, IF A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE WAS BUILT, THERE WOULD BE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADD ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS JUST LIKE THERE ARE FOR OTHER LOTS IN THE CITY ONCE THESE LOTS ARE LEGALLY CREATED.
SO AT THIS POUND WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT -- AT THIS POINT WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK ON THEIR
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BEHALF.I AM THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE.
MY ADDRESS IS 42945 INDIO STREET, SUITE A, INDIO, CALIFORNIA.
AND THE PROJECT IS JUST SIMPLY, AS HAS BEEN VERY WELL PRESENTED BY STAFF, TO TAKE A 5-ACRE PARCEL AND TO DIVIDE IT INTO TWO LOTS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF TWO SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLINGS.
THAT IS NOT DETERMINED EXACTLY WHAT WILL BE BUILT YET BECAUSE THIS IS ONLY THE SUBDIVISION.
WHAT IS BUILT WILL HAVE TO CONFORM TO ADOPTED GENERAL PLAN AND ZONING.
THE INTENT OF THE DEVELOPERS OR THE APPLICANT IS TO -- I KNOW ONE OF THEM INTENDS TO BUILD A HOUSE THAT HE WILL PERSONALLY RESIDE IN, AND THAT'S MR. KIM.
THE SECOND PARCEL MAY BE DEVELOPED ON A SPECK HOME OR SOLD TO ANOTHER USER WHO WANTS TO BUILD A CUSTOM HOME ON IT.
SO WE'RE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMISSION WOULD HAVE FOR US AT THIS TIME.
AND AS I SAID, THE APPLICANT, PETER KIM, IS AVAILABLE AS WELL IF ANYONE WANTS TO QUESTION HUM DIRECTLY.
>> DO ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
>> HAS THE APPLICANT DONE ANY SORT OF SIMILAR PROJECTS LIKE THIS WHERE THEY INTEND TO BUILD, YOU KNOW, A HOME IN THE PROPERTY? I GUESS MY QUESTION IS IS THE INTENT OF THE ADDITIONAL SEPARATION, IS IT FOR -- IS IT GENERATING, IS IT RENTING, OR IS IT TO SELL TO TOTALLY DIFFERENT INDIVIDUAL AND HAVE THEM DEVELOP THEIR OWN HOME? AND IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY'VE -- AND IF NOT, IF THE INTENT IS TO BUILD SOMETHING THAT COULD BE RENTED OUT OR LEASED, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT THE APPLICANT HAS DONE IN THE PAST IN OTHER CITIES?
>> SO PETER KIM IS AVAILABLE TO DIRECTLY ANSWER HIS INTENTIONS.
BASICALLY, THESE TWO GENTLEMEN HAVE BOUGHT THE LAND AS PARTNERS.
HIS INTENTION IS TO TAKE HIS PARCEL AND DEVELOP A HOUSE ON IT.
THE OTHER GENTLEMAN I'M NOT SURE WHAT HIS INTENTIONS ARE.
SO I WOULD LIMIT MY COMMENTS TO THE COMMISSION TO SIMPLY STATING THAT WHATEVER THEY DO, BECAUSE ALL THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU FOR CONSIDERATION IS ALLOWING THE DIVISION OF THE 5 ACRES INTO A 2 ACRES AND A 3 ACRES LOT RESPECTIVELY.
MY COMMENTS ARE SIMPLY SAYING THAT NOTHING THEY WANT TO DO WOULD BE SUGGEST TO ONE OF TWO THINGS.
THEY WOULD BE SUBJECTED TO THE EXISTING GENERAL PLAN AND ZONING WHICH WOULD ALLOW FOR CONSTRUCTION OF A SINGLE FAMILY ESTATE.
IF THEY WANTED TO DO ANYTHING ELSE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO THIS COMMISSION AGAIN AND POSSIBLY EVEN THE COUNCIL TO GET APPROVAL FOR THAT WHICH PROBABLY WOULDN'T EVEN BE ALLOWED BY THE ZONE.
SO WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THEIR INTENTIONS AND INTENTIONS CAN CHANGE.
AS I SAID, THE ONE APPLICANT, HIS INTENTION IS TO BUILD A HOUSE THAT HE IS GOING TO RESIDE IN.
THE OTHER LOT I'M NOT SURE, BUT IT WOULD BE A HOME THAT HAS TO BE DEVELOPED PURSUANT TO THE ZONING AND UNDER THE REGULATIONS FOR LAND USE AND WHAT'S ALLOWED TO BE DONE THERE THAT THE CITY HAS CURRENTLY ADOPTED.
DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS?
>> COMMENT WERE RECEIVED FORE ITEM 6.2.
THEE ITEMS HAVE BEEN DISTRIBUTED TO THE COMMISSIONERS AND POSTED ONLINE AND MADE PART OF THE AGENDA PACKET AND PUBLIC RECORD FOR THIS MEETING.
HOWEVER, WE DO HAVE TWO PUBLIC COMMENTS VIA ZOOM.
THE FIRST ONE I WILL BRING ON.
APRIL SANDERS, CAN YOU HEAR ME?
GO AHEAD AND PROCEED WITH YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT, AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
APRIL -- >> I LIVE SOUTH OF THIS LOT AND THERE HAS BEEN AN AIR STREAM TRAILER ON IT UNTIL IT WAS SOLD.
THERE WERE TWO MODULAR HOMES BROUGHT ONTO THIS LOT.
ALL OF MY NEIGHBORS AND MYSELF AND MY HUSBAND ARE VERY UPSET ABOUT THIS.
WE HEARD THAT MR. KIM INTENDED TO RENT THESE MODULAR UNITS OUT FOR STAGECOACH AND COACHELLA.
WE'VE ALREADY HAD MULTIPLE POLICE INCIDENTS HERE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, NOT AT THIS PROPERTY BUT OTHER PROPERTIES.
AND WE'RE ALL VERY UPSET THAT WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS GOING TO TURN INTO LIKE A MOTEL.
AND THERE'S CURRENTLY A MODULAR HOME ON THE SOUTH LOT.
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THERE WERE TWO.THEY REMOVED ONE OF THEM LAST WEEK.
THERE'S ALSO AN ALL TERRAIN VEHICLE TRAILER ON THIS LOT RIGHT BEHIND MY NEIGHBOR TWO DOORS DOWN.
THAT'S WHAT SHE LOOK AT NOW OUT OF HER LOT.
AND WE'RE ALL VERY UPSET AND REALLY DON'T WANT THIS TO GO FORWARD WITH BEING SUBDIVIDED DUE TO THE FACT THAT WE FEEL THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A VRBO BEHIND US.
LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE HAD MULTIPLE -- THERE'S BEEN FIVE PARTIES HERE WITH OVER 100 PEOPLE BEHIND US.
THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME AS WELL.
I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET IN TOUCH WITH HIM.
MR. RICHARD MAHONEY, ARE YOU AVAILABLE? MR. MAHONEY?
IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
>> MY NAME IS RICHARD MAHONEY.
I LIVE ON A NEIGHBORING PROPERTY, AND MY CONCERN IS, AS APRIL HAS SAID, THERE HAVE BEEN NUMEROUS PROBLEMS IN THE -- IN THE LOS PALOS NEIGHBORHOOD.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THE 5-ACRE LOTS ARE ABLE TO BE SUBDIVIDED, AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT, PER SE, BUT I DO HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT THE INTENT.
IF -- THERE HAVE BEEN, AS APRIL SAID, THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF VRBOS OR VACATION REGENTS BACK THERE.
I PERSONALLY HAD A CALL TO INDIO POLICE DEPARTMENT MANY TIMES.
THAT COMMUNITY IS LOCATED -- IT'S AN ANOMALY.
THAT COMMUNITY IS LOCATED THROUGH THE TRILOGY POLO CLUB COMMUNITY.
IT WAS BUILT LONG BEFORE THIS COMMUNITY WAS DEVELOPED, AND THEY'RE LANDLOCKED SO THEY CAN ONLY HAVE ACCESS TO THEIR COMMUNITY THROUGH THE TRILOGY COMMUNITY.
THAT CREATES A LOT OF TRAFFIC.
MY CONCERN IS THAT SUBDIVIDING THAT LOT IS GOING TO INCREASE MORE TRAFFIC.
THE OTHER THING IS WHEN THAT DEVELOPMENT HAD BEEN UPGRADED BY SHADE, WHO WAS THE DEVELOPER HERE AT TRILOGY, THEY PUT IN THE STREET, WATER, UNDERGROUND ELECTRIC, GAS, AND COMMUNICATIONS.
THERE ARE NO SEWERS, AND I LIVE RIGHT ON THE CORNER.
THE SEWER LINE ENDS AT MY HOUSE.
SO THERE ARE NO SEWERS BACK THERE IN THAT WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD.
MY CONCERN IS IF THEY SUBDIVIDE THAT LOT INTO TWO, THEN I BELIEVE, BASED ON WHAT I JUST HEARD ABOUT THE ONE, ONE UNIT PER ACRE, THAT COULD BE SUBDIVIDED AGAIN AT LEAST EACH LOT COULD BE SUBDIVIDE ONE INTO TWO MORE AND ONE INTO THREE MORE.
YOU COULD PUT FIVE HOMES ON A 5-ACRE PROPERTY.
IF ALL THOSE ARE BACK THERE AND THEY'RE ON SEPTIC, EVERYBODY BACK THERE IS ON SEPTIC AND MANY ARE ON LP GAS, SO WE HAVE LP GAS TRUCKS COMING THROUGH OUR WELL-DEVELOPED COMMUNITY GOING BACK THERE TO A VERY PRIMITIVE COMMUNITY, MY CONCERN THERE IS WHAT IS REALLY THE INTENT IF IT'S TO GROW PARTY HOUSES BACK THERE, THAT'S REALLY NOT A GOOD PLAN.
SO I'LL END MY COMMENTS THERE.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THE ISSUE HERE IS WHAT IS THE PROPERTY SHOULD BE SUBDIVIDED.
I UNDERSTAND I CAN'T SAY MORE THAN THAT.
BUT MY CONCERN IS AFTER THE SUBDIVISION, THEN WHAT PLANNING PROCESS HAS TO GET APPROVED FOR ANYBODY TO GO THROUGH AND FURTHER SUBDIVIDE OR DEVELOP? WILL THERE BE MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE REQUIREMENT ON DWELLINGS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA? HOW MANY ADUS? THOSE AUXILIARY DWELLING UNITS, YOU UNDERSTAND THEY'RE LEGAL IN CALIFORNIA BUT THOSE THINGS COULD BE A NUISANCE IN A COMMUNITY LIKE OURS.
>> THANK YOU, SIR, FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
>> THERE ARE NO MORE COMMENTS.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO ADDRESS ANY OF THOSE CONCERNS?
YOU CAN APPRECIATE THE CONCERNS OF THE NEIGHBORS.
I WOULD POINT OUT WE'RE PROPOSING THE DIVISION.
THAT'S ALL THAT'LL HAPPEN WITH THIS PARTICULAR ACTION, IS A RECOMMENDATION TO ADOPT FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO ADOPT STAFF'S FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS AND MOVE THIS FORWARD TO COUNCIL OR, YOU KNOW, OR -- NOT A RECOMMENDATION THAT THEY DON'T DO THAT.
WHAT WILL BE DEVELOPED HERE WILL HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED ANOTHER TIME.
IT WOULD HAVE TO BE SUBMITTED THROUGH THE CORRECT PROCESS.
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SO IF IT'S SINGLE FAMILY HOME, IF IT'S AN ADU, I'LL LEAVE IT TO MY ESTEEMED COLLEAGUE, THE THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, TO ANSWER THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON THAT.HE'S MUCH MORE ASTUTE ON THOSE THINGS.
BUT ONE OF THE CONCERNS I JUST HAVE ABOUT SOME OF WHAT WAS RAISED IS IF I HAD PARTIES GOING ON NEXT TO MY HOUSE BECAUSE I'M AN INDIO RESIDENT AS WELL, I WOULD NOT BE HAPPY ABOUT IT.
I SEE THAT AS AN ENFORCEMENT ISSUE, THOUGH.
I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT RULES THAT HAVE TO DEAL WITH VACATION RENTAL IN THE CITY OF INDIO BECAUSE I'VE NEVER LOOKED INTO THEM.
IF THERE'S ISSUES WITH THAT, THE COUNCIL MAY WANT TO LOOK AT THEIR ORDINANCES THAT REGULATE THOSE.
IT MAY BE AN ENFORCEMENT ISSUE.
I'M NOT SURE THAT THIS IS THE VENUE TO DISCUSS THAT, THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR APPROVAL OF A SUBDIVISION THAT IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE GENERAL PLAN AND THE ZONING.
SO THAT WOULD JUST BE MY RESPONSE TO THAT.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WYE APPLICANT'S PROJECT DOESN'T BECOME THE TARGETED VENUE FOR A DISCUSSION THAT IT SOUNDS LIKE MAY NEED TO HAPPEN.
SO AT THIS POINT WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND DELIBERATE AMONGST OURSELVES.
ANY COMMISSIONERS LIKE TO START?
KEVIN, THE COUNCIL HAS JUST -- DID THEY JUST FINISH REDOING THE SHORT-TERM RENTALS OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S STILL UNDER DISCUSSION?
>> SO THE CITY COUNCIL JUST APPROVED AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE SHORTED-TERM RENTAL REGULATION SPECIFICALLY FOCUSING ON PARTICULAR AREAS OF IMPACT, NOISE UNDER GUISE THE NUMBER OF ATTENDEES THAT CAN BE AT A PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY.
THAT ORDINANCE WAS APPROVED AT THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEETING, LAST COUNCIL MEETING AND WILL GO INTO EFFECT AT THE END -- ACTUALLY IN JANUARY.
AND JUST TO REMIND THE COMMISSION, YOU HAD THE ISSUE OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN FRONT OF YOU BEFORE WHEN YOU'RE CONSIDERING PROJECTS, AND THE ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY CAN WEIGH IN ON THIS FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE, BUT YOU'RE LIMITED IN YOUR AUTHORITY OF CONSIDERATION FOR THAT.
BUT I WILL NOTE A COUPLE THINGS.
ONE, THE CITY DOES HAVE A SHORT-TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE.
A PROPERTY THAT DOES WANT TO BE CONSIDERED FOR SHORT-TERM RENTAL HAS TO APPLY FOR AND RECEIVE A PERMIT AND IS SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WALL RELEVANT STANDARDS CONTAINED IN THAT ORDINANCE.
SO YOUR ACTION THIS EVENING AND/OR SUBSEQUENT ACTION BY THE CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY RESULT IN A SHORT-TERM RENTALS SITUATION.
THE PROPERTY HAVE WOULD TO BE AUTHORIZED FOR THAT.
THERE HAVE BEEN REFERENCES MADE TO ACTIVITIES GOING ON ON THIS PROPERTY, AND I CAN NOTE FOR THE RECORD THERE HAVE BEEN CODE ENFORCEMENT REGULATIONS ON THAT, AND I DO BELIEVE THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS BEEN COMPLIANT WITH THE CODE ENFORCEMENT STAFF IN TERMS OF SOME CONCERNS NOTED.
ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS WERE REFERENCED AND JUST FOR THE RECORD IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA LOCAL GOVERNMENTS HAVE ALMOST NO AUTHORITY TO LIMIT ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS, AS THIS COMMISSION IS WELL AWARE.
SO THE CITY CANNOT INHIBIT NOR PROHIBIT ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.
IN POINT OF FACT, NEITHER CAN HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATIONS ANYMORE.
SO THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS WITH FUTURE SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT THESE PROPERTIES, AS LONG AS IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE ADOPTED STANDARDS THE CITY HAS WHICH AGAIN ARE VERY LIMITED, PARTICULARLY AROUND THE SIZE OF FACILITIES AND BOTH IN TERMS ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS AND JUNIOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY BECAUSE THERE WAS POTENTIAL ABOUT FURTHER POTENTIAL SUBDIVISION OF THE PROPERTY.
THE PROPERTY IS COUNTRY ESTATES 2 WHICH I MENTION EARLIER HAS A MINIMUM LOT SIZE OF 2 ACRES.
SO IF THIS TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP GOES FORWARD FROM COMMISSION TO THE COUNCIL AND THIS ACTION IS TAKEN BY THE COUNCIL TO APPROVE IT, THE MINIMUM LOT SIDESES ARE 2 PERKS ACRES SOAP AS PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT YOU HAVE 0.1-ACRE FOR ONE PARCEL AND 0.2 FOR THE OTHER PARCEL SO FROM A COMPLIANCE PERSPECTIVE FROM ZONING THEY COMPLY, AND IN THAT INSTANCE THE MINIMUM COMPLIANCE WITH ZONING AND THE MINIMUM FINDING IN COMPLIANCE WITH GENERAL PLAN STAFF DOES FOUND THAT THE PROPOSAL IS COMPLIANT WITH BOTH.
I JUST WANTED TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAD TAKEN SOME STEPS, AND WYE UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS WHEN IT COMES TO SHORT-TERM RENTALS SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND THE IMPACT OF QUALITY OF LIFE ON THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ CEJA, ANY COMMENTS?
>> NO, I JUST APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION FROM MR. SNYDER NOW.
I THINK IT'S REALLY HELPFUL, PARTICULARLY FOR THE THINGS THAT WERE RAISED.
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ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2003?
I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE -- >> PARDON.
IF I MAY INTERRUPT, I BELIEVE THERE MIGHT BE A TYPO HERE IN THE RECOMMENDATION.
I BELIEVE THAT IT'S ACTUALLY RESOLUTION 2009 IN THE AGENDA PACKET, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION.
I'D LIKE TO SUBMIT FOR APPROVAL RESOLUTION NUMBER 2009, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF INDIO, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THE TENTATIVE MAP PARCEL NUMBER 38241, TPM 21-09-412 TO SUBDIVIDE A 5-ACRE PARCEL OF LAND INTO TWO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PARCELS TO BE LOCATED AT LOS PALOS DRIVE BETWEEN ZENDA DRIVE AND AVENUE 52 AND DETERMINE THAT PROJECT IS EXEMPT FROM THE REQUIREMENT OF THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT, CEQA, SECTION 15315, MINOR LAND DIVISIONS, ASSESSOR'S PARCEL NUMBER 779-100-028.
LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
>> VICE CHAIRPERSON RODRIGUEZ CEJA.
MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, WE HAVE PUBLIC HEARING 6.3, TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NUMBER
[6.3. Tentative Tract Map No. 31689 Second Amendment (TTM 4-1-398 Amendment 2)]
31689 SECOND AMENDMENT, TTM 4-1-398 AMENDMENT 2.JOSEPH RAVANI WITH GLOBAL INVESTMENT AND DEVELOPMENT.
THE APPLICANT HAS FILED A APPLICATION WITH SECOND AMENDMENT TO TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NUMBER 316 EYEWITNESS TO REFLECT THE CONSTRUCTION OF NORTH INDIO CHANNEL CONSTRUCTED WITH THE COACHELLA VALLEY WATER DISTRICT AND THE RELOCATION TO THE NORTH ENTRANCE TO ALIGN WITH RANCHO LOS CERRITOS DRIVE.
KEVIN, CAN WE HAVE THE STAFF REPORT.
CAN I HAVE THE POWERPOINT? GREAT, THANK YOU.
AS THE CHAIR INDICATED, THIS IS AN AMENDMENT TO AN EXISTING TENTATIVE TRACT MAP, AND IT'S RESULTING FROM SOME ACTIONS PERTAINING TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE NORTH INDIO CHANNEL BY THE CEO VALLEY WATER DISTRICT AND THE RELOCATION OF THE -- OF AN EXISTING ENTRANCE TO A LINE WITH ANOTHER STREET SECTION.
SO JUST TO ORIENT THE COMMISSION, SOME OF YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH THIS PROJECT SITE.
IT'S BEEN REFERRED TO AS ESPAQA.
IT IS IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE CITY.
IT ALREADY HAS SOME DEVELOPMENT ON IT SO A LIMITED NUMBER OF LOSS WERE DEVELOPED AND THEN ULTIMATE THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN, AT LEAST THEIR FIRST PORTION OF THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN ACQUIRED BY HOME FOR BUILDING OUT INITIAL 50, 50 LOTS WITH ADDITIONAL OPTION FOR 65.
SO THIS ACTION AGAIN IS INTENDED TO DO SOME CLEANUP WORK BASED ON ACTIONS THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE, SO WITH THE PROJECT.
AS A REMINDER, SPALDING HAS A FOLT OF 318 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS, AND WE WILL -- THE PROPOSED MAP WOULD INCLUDE THREE NEW RETENTION BASINS TO REPLACE THE BASIN FLOOD AREA THAT WAS REMOVED DUE TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE NORTH INDIO CHANNEL, AND ALSO COL SEDATE THE COACHELLA VALLEY WELL SITE NO RAY LARGER WELL SITE AND AS I INDICATED THE NORTH ENTRANCE OF THE PROJECT TO -- THE RANCHO DRIVE TO THE IMMEDIATE NORTH.
IN THIS VEIN THIS IS FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE.
THIS IS, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, SOME CLEANUP ACTS OF THAT WILL ADDRESS SOME, AGAIN, ACTIONS BY COACHELLA VALLEY WATER DISTRICT AND ALSO BETTER ALIGN THE NORTH ENTRANCE DRIVE.
SO IN THAT VEIN, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING TO THE COMMISSION THAT YOU ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 004 RECOMMENDING TO CITY COUNCIL THE SECOND AMENDMENT TO TENTATIVE TRACT MAY HAVE 31689 THAT AGAIN WOULD ADDRESS THE CHANGES I ALREADY MENTIONED.
AND WITH THAT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMISSION MIGHT HAVE.
THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS IN THE AUDIENCE THIS EVENING ALONG WITH THE APPLICANT, IS AVAILABLE VIRTUALLY, SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
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QUESTIONS BEFORE YOU OPEN THE PUBLIC ARENA.>> BEFORE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY.
I'D LIKE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT ANYTHING THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO NOTE TO THE COMMISSION.
>> GOOD EVENING, CHAIR AND STAFF.
WE'RE JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, ALTHOUGH I WILL SAY IT'S NICE TO BE HERE IN PERSON.
I'VE DONE SO MANY MEETINGS ON ZOOM, IT'S GREAT TO GET BACK TO A PERSONAL TOUCH.
THE PROJECT MANAGER AS WELL AS JOSEPH RAVANI ARE ONLINE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
>> COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS?
SO BEING THAT THERE'S NO YOU WILL BE PUBLIC COMMENTS -- >> THE HEARING'S OPEN.
IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE WERE NO COMMENTS SUBMITTED AND NO ONE ATTEMPTING TO SUBMIT A COMMENT ONLINE NOW, SO YOU COULD CLOSE THE HEARING.
>> I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION OR WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION?
>> >> I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 2004, RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF INDIO.
BY APPROVING SECOND AMENDMENT TO TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NUMBER 31689 AND AMENDING THE CONSTRUCTION OF NORTH INDIO CHANNEL CONSTRUCTIONS BY THE COACHELLA VALLEY WATER DISTRICT AND RELOCATION OF THE NORTH ENTRANCE TO ALIGN WITH RANCHO LOS CERRITOS DRIVE.
KEEP READING ON? FOR THE 318 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS WITH A MINIMUM LOT OF 7,000 SQUARE FEET ON A 86.48-ACRE PROPERTY THAT WILL BE RECORDED A FASTER PHASE II OF THE PROJECT.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND FROM ANYONE?
>> VICE CHAIRPERSON RODRIGUEZ CEJA.
WE'RE MOVING RIGHT ALONG TO 6.4, TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP NUMBER 38238.
[6.4. Tentative Parcel Map No. 38238 (TPM 21-08-411)]
CAN THAT WE HAVE A STAFF REPORT, PLEASE.I'M JUST WAITING FOR POWERPOINT TO COME UP.
FOR THE RECORD 67 SNYDER DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
THIS ITEM, AS BY THE CHAIR IS A NEW TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP, AND I'M JUST GOING TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF STAFF REPORT.
THE APPLICANT IS AVAILABLE THIS EVENING TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FOLLOWING THE STAFF REPORT.
SO THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION, AS INDICATED ON THE ARIEL MAP AND OUTLINED IN RED, A 6.94-ACRE PARCEL LOCATED AT 37600 GOODMAN ROAD, AND THAT'S ON THE NORTH SIDE OF AVENUE 38 BETWEEN DUNE PALMS ROAD AND GOODMAN ROAD EAST OF ADAMS STREET.
SO THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION WOULD CREATE FOYER SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PARCELS AND A COMMON LOT.
THE NEW PARCELS WOULD RANGE IN SIZE FROM 1 ACRE TO 2 ACRES.
AGAIN, THE SPECIFIED PURPOSE OF SUBDIVISION IS FOR THE SALE, PLEASE AND FINANCING OF FOUR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOT, SUBDIVISION MAP ACT DOES REQUIRE THAT CONFORMING FORGES WITH THE GENERAL PLAN BE FOUND.
IN PARTICULAR PROPERTY HAS A GENERAL PLAN 2040 LAND USE DESIGNATION OF DESERT ESTATES NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH AGAIN ALLOWS FOR UP TO 1 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE, AND THE CURRENT ZONING DESIGNATION -- I APOLOGIZE, I THINK THAT'S AN ERROR.
I THINK I MADE AN ERROR THERE, SO LET ME JUST DOUBLE-CHECK THAT.
YES, IT'S EQUESTRIAN ESTATES WHICH DOES HAVE A MINIMUM LOT SIZE OF 2 ACRES.
SO SIMILAR TO OTHER ONE BUT IT'S EQUESTRIAN ESTATES RATHER THAN COUNTRY ESTATES 2 SO MY APOLOGIES FOR THE ERROR IN THE POWERPOINT.
THIS IS THE PROPOSED TENTATIVE MAP.
AND THE TABLE TO THE RIGHT SHOWS YOU THE BREAKDOWN OF THE LOTS.
AGAIN, THERE IS A REMAINDER SO THAT EACH OF THE LOTS, THERE'S FOUR LOTS OF VARIOUS SIZES, ALL MEETING THE -- I APOLOGIZE.
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I ERRORED IN SAYING EARLIER.IT'S A MAXIMUM DENSITY UNDER THE ZONING OF TWO DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE, SO IN THIS INSTANCE IN EQUESTRIAN STATES IT'S NOT A LOT SIZE.
IT'S A MAXIMUM DENSITY SO MY APOLOGIES.
BUT AGAIN, THIS TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP IS BROKEN DOWN INTO THE FOUR LOTS OF VARIOUS ACREAGES.
THERE'S A PRIVATE STREET WHICH IS REFERRED TO AS LOT B AND THEN THE REMAINDER OF THE LOT WILL BE A REGIONAL FLOOD CONTROL AREA THAT WILL BE PURCHASED BY THE CEO VALLEY WATER DISTRICT AND WILL BE FOR PURPOSES OF REGIONAL FLOOD CONTROL.
THE PROJECT IS CATEGORICALLY DEMENT FROM THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT.
IT MEETS THE EXEMPTIONS FOR MINOR LAND DIVISION CLASS 15.
THE LOT SIZES TO DO MEET THE MINIMUM LOT SIZES AND MORE IMPORTANT THEY MEET THE MAXIMUM DENSITY.
PROPOSED DENSITY IS 0.58 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
IT'S CONSISTENT WITH EN, GENERAL LAND, AND ALSO CONSISTENT WITH EQUESTRIAN ESTATES.
SO WITH THAT, STAFF DID REVIEW AND CONDUCT SUBSEQUENT ANALYSIS OF THE SUBDIVISION MAP ACT COMPLIANCE, AND AS INDICATED IN THE SUMMARY TABLE DID FIND THAT FOR ALL THE REQUIRED FINDINGS, THE PROJECT DID COMPLY WITH THE SUBDIVISION MAP ACT.
AND SO WITH THAT, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 205 RECOMMENDING TO CITY COUNCIL THE APPROVAL OF THE TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 28338 THAT WOULD DIVIDE TO THAT IN FOUR RESIDENTIAL LOTS, RESIDENTIAL PARCEL AND ALSO WOULD FIND THAT PROJECT IS DEPARTMENT.
FROM THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT.
AND WITH THAT, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE COMMISSION MIGHT HAVE.
AGAIN, THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVES AND THE APPLICANT ARE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION.
>> COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY.
SEEING THAT THERE'S NO QUESTIONS, I'D LIKE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND INVITE THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK, SHOULD THEY WISH.
>> ANDY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO PROVIDE ANY COMMENTS TO THE COMMISSION?
ACTUALLY, MY NAME IS VERONICA.
ANDY HAD TO STEP AWAY TO PICK UP OUR KIDS, BUT I'M HERE, AND THIS IS A PROPERTY THAT WAS PURCHASED BY FAMILY.
AND MYSELF AND MY HUSBAND AND MY HUSBAND'S PARENTS.
AND WE'RE LOOKING TO DIVIDE IT INTO FOUR DIFFERENT PROPERTIES.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? DO WE HAVE IN YOU PUBLIC COMMENTS?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO THE APPLICANT.
WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION OR WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION?
CHAIRMAN, I WAS LOOKING AT THE MAP, AND THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE -- I MEAN, THERE'S PROPERTIES I GUESS TO THE EAST, IF I'VE GOT THIS MAP UP RIGHT, AND THERE'S INDUSTRIAL.
THERE'S A LOT OF OPEN SPACE OUT THERE.
AM I SEEING, IT'S VERY UNDEVELOPED.
>> AGAIN, JUST TO CLARIFY, YOU WENT BACK AND FORTH ON THOSE NUMBERS SO JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE RIGHT HERE.
IT MEETS BOTH THE DEN AND THE EQUESTRIAN.
I -- THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU TRY TO CREATE A POWERPOINT FROM ANOTHER POWERPOINT.
THE DEN AND THE EQUESTRIAN ESTATE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, WHICH IN THIS INSTANCE ARE DENSITY-BASED, IT DOES COMPLY WITH BOTH.
SO IT IS COMPLIANT IN TERMS OF MEETING THE MINIMUM AND MAXIMUMS STANDARDS OF BOTH.
>> ARE WE ABLE TO PULL UP THE SLIDE THAT HAS THE MAP SHOWING THE DIFFERENT LOT DIVISIONS.
IS THAT THE ONE YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, COMMISSIONER?
SO QUESTION BEING IS THE FOYER LOTS ARE GOING TO BE FRONTING ON DUNE PALMS ROAD? IS THAT WHERE THE FOUR LOTS WILL BE DIVIDED.
AND AT THE END OF IT, THE BACK END IS THE LARGER LOT THAT -- [INAUDIBLE] >> THAT'S CORRECT.
SO -- >> AND THERE WILL BE A LOT B AS REFERENCED IN THE TABLE THAT WILL BE THE PRIVATE STREET ACCESS TO THE FOUR LOTS.
SO THEY'RE GOING TO ACCESS IT THROUGH THE PRIVATE ROAD AND NOT THROUGH DUNE PALMS?
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>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR WOULD ANYONE CARE TO MAKE A MOTION ON THIS?
A MOVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2005, THE RESOLUTION OF PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF INDIO, CALIFORNIA RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THE TENTATIVE MAP NUMBER PARCEL MAP NUMBER 38238TPM 21-08-411 TO SUBDIVIDE A 6.91-ACRE PARCEL OF LAND INTO FOUR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PARCELS LOCATED A 47600 GOODMAN ROAD 92203 ON THE NORTH SIDE OF AVENUE 38 BETWEEN DUNE PALMS ROAD AND GOODMAN ROAD EAST OF ADAMS STREET SUBJECT TOTE FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL THEREIN AND TO DETERMINE THAT THE PROJECT IS EXEMPT FROM THE REQUIREMENT OF THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL A QUALITY ACT CEQA SECTION 15315 MINOR LAND DIVISIONS, ASSESSOR EAST PARCEL NUMBER 691-040-005.
>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CEJA.
CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
>> VICE CHAIRPERSON RODRIGUEZ CEJA.
>> NUP NEXT ITEM 6.5, CHANDI SQUARE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
AND DESIGN REVIEW 20 -- >> CHAIR, IF I MAY, I THINK THAT'S 6.5 ON THE CURRENT
[6.5. General Plan Amendment – Housing Element 2021-2029]
AGENDA WOULD BE THE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT ITEM.>> I WAS READING OFF THE PREVIOUS COPY.
6.5 IS THE GENERAL PLAN AMOUNT-HOUSING ELEMENT 2021-2029.
FOR THE RECORD, KEVIN SNYDER DIRECTED COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
I HAVE SOME OPENING REMARKS AND THEN I DO HAVE BOTH ELIZABETH DICKSON AND ERICA WITH OUR CONSULTING FIRM WHO HAVE BEEN WITH THE CITY COUNCIL PREVIOUSLY AND THEY'RE GOING TO LEAD YOU THROUGH A PRESENTATION THIS EVENING, BUT JUST A COUPLE OF OPENING REMARKS.
FIRST I WANT TO REMIND THE COMMISSION THAT THE HOUSING ELEMENT IS A REQUIRED ELEMENT OF THE CITY'S GENERAL PLAN.
IT IS -- WE REQUIRED A PLAN FOR EVERY EIGHT YEARS.
WE HAVE A CURRENTLY HOUSING ELEMENT IN EFFECT THAT IS 2013 TO 2021 AS THE PLANNING PERIOD.
WE HAVE THE NEW HOUSING ELEMENT THAT WE'LL BE DISCUSSING THIS EVENING WHICH WOULD BE IN EFFECT FROM 2021 TO 2029.
THE HOUSING ELEMENT ADDRESSES A MAJOR PORTION OF THE CITY IN TERMS OF WHAT IS CALLED THE REGIONAL HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT.
YOU'VE HEARD THESE NUMBERS BEFORE, 7,812 HOUSING UNITS THAT WE HAVE TO PLAN FOR, WHICH 2,963 HAVE TO BE AFFORDABLE AND THE REASON I WANT TO MAKE THAT STATEMENT IS THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE DAN MANDATED BY THE STATE TO DO.
THE HOUSING ELEMENT IS MANDATED.
IF WE DO NOT HAVE A CERTIFIED HOUSING ELEMENT BY STATE OF CALIFORNIA SPECIFICALLY IF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT REPERCUSSIONS FOR THE CITY.
IT USED TO BE I COULD SAY THAT AND NOT REALLY WORRY ABOUT IT.
THEY HAVE MADE IT QUITE CLEAR, HCD HAS MADE IT QUITE CLEAR THAT THEY WILL ACTIVELY PURSUE ACTIONS AGAINST CITIES THAT COULD INCLUDE LAWSUITS THAT DO NOT GO THROUGH A PROCESS GETTING A CERTIFIED HOUSING ELEMENT.
UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN WE GOT THOSE NUMBERS I JUST MENTIONED, WE GOT THEM FROM THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF GOVERNMENTS IN OCTOBER OF 2020.
WHICH DIDN'T LEAVE AS A LOT OF TIME TO PLAN.
WE -- BECAUSE WE HAVE AN EXISTING CERTIFIED HOUSING ELEMENT, WE GET A LITTLE BIT OF A BUY WHICH MEANS THAT WE ELECTRICAL TECHNICAL I SHOULD HAVE OUR PLAN ADOPTED BY OCTOBER 2021 BUT WE DID GET AN EXTENSION TO FEBRUARY OF 2022.
AFTER THAT THAT POTENTIAL OF FOR ACTION BY HCD IS SOMETHING WE COULD SERIOUSLY FACE.
SO IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THIS IS A -- IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, BOTH THE COMMISSION AND COUNCIL, THERE IS A CERTAIN SENSE OF URGENCY TO HAVE THIS ADOPTED, SO IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU HAVE TO TAKE ACTION UNTIL YOU'RE READY, BUT IT IS TO MAKE YOU COGNIZANT OF THE TIME SENSITIVITY OF THIS ACTION.
AND THE FINAL POINT I WANT TO MAKE, AND I'M SURE ELIZABETH AND ERIKA WILL GET INTO IT FURTHER IS THE HOUSING ELEMENT IS IN MANY WAYS PROCEED FORMA.
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WE HAVE TO ADDRESS CERTAIN THING.SO EVERY HOUSING ELEMENT IN THE STATE KIND OF LOOKS ALIKE.
OUR DATA MAY BE DIFFERENT, OUR PROPOSAL MAY BE DIFFERENT BUT THE FORMAT IS PRETTY SIMILAR.
WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT WE MAY NOT ADDRESS EVERYTHING THE COMMISSION WANTS TO ADDRESS.
WE MAY NO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS EVERYTHING THAT THE PUBLIC WANTS TO ADDRESS IN TERMS OF WHAT THE HOPES ARE FOR WHAT THE CITY CAN DO, PARTICULARLY IN THE AREA OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
BUT THERE'S ANOTHER BITE OF THE PROVERBIAL APPLE AND THAT WILL COME AFTER THIS HOUSING ELEMENT ACTIVITY IS DONE BEFORE CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE WE HAVE A STATE GRANT THAT IS FUNDING THIS WORK, AND THAT STATE GRANT IS BROKEN INTO TWO PARTS.
THE FIRST PART IS THE HOUSING ELEMENT AND THE SECOND PART IS WE'RE CALLING PRO HOUSING STRATEGIES, AND THAT IS GOING TO BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMISSION, THE COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY TO KIND OF GET INTO THE NITTY-GRITTY OF WHAT CAN THE CITY DO TO ACTIVELY ENCOURAGE HOUSING NOT ONLY AFFORDABLE HOW LONG, BUT WITH AN EMPHASIS ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WHAT STRATEGIES WILL THEY, WHETHER THEY BE REGULATORY OR FINANCIAL.
SO IF YOURSELVES OR THE PUBLIC ARE A LITTLE BIT FRUSTRATED THAT MAYBE THE HOUSING ELEMENT DOESN'T GO AS FAR AS YOU MIGHT WANT IT TO, THERE IS ANOTHER BITE AT THE APPLE, AND WITH THAT I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO ELIZABETH AND ERIKA.
I HOPE I HAVEN'T STOLE TOO MUCH THEIR THUNDER BUT THEY'RE GOING TO LEAD YOU THROUGH A PRESENTATION AND WE'RE GOING TO BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE YOU OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
JUST ONE MOMENT WHILE I SHARE MY SCREEN.
MY NAME IS ERIKA VAN SICKLE AND I'M HERE WITH MY COLLEAGUE.
WE ARE MEMBERS OF THE DUDEK CONSULTING TEAM AS KEVIN SNYDER JUST MENTIONED AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSE WITH ITS CITY STAFF TO PREPARE AN AMENDMENT TO YOUR GENERAL PLAN.
WE'RE HERE TO SUPPORT CITY STAFF AND PRESENT A PLAN AMENDMENT RELATIVE TO THE ASSOCIATED CEQA DOCUMENTATION AND HOUSING ELEMENT.
WE WILL START WITH INTRODUCTIONS, PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT, THEN TAKE A LOOK AT THE HOUSING ELEMENT COMPONENTS, THE ROUTE CREATION WE COMPLETED AS PART OF THE UPDATE, AND THE GOALS, POLICIES AND PROGRAMS, AND THEN PAUSE FOR ANY REMAINING QUESTIONS.
SO IN ADDITION TO MYSELF AND ELIZABETH FROM THE DUDEK TEAM THIS PROJECT IS BEING LED BY STAFF FROM THE CITY'S COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT INCLUDING DIRECTOR KEVIN SNYDER, LEILA NAMVAR AND JESUS GOMEZ.
SO TODAY WE'RE BRINGING BEFORE YOU AN AMENDMENT TO THE GENERAL PLAN WHEN IS THE DOCUMENT THAT STATES THE OVERALL VISION FOR HOW THE CITY SHOULD GROW AND DEVELOP OVER TIME.
IT DEVELOP POLICIES FOR THE VARIOUS ELEMENTS OF THE GENERAL PLAN AND THAN IS AMOUNTED TOTE CITY'S HOUSING ELEMENT AS REQUIRED FOR THE SIXTH CYCLE PERIOD WHICH IS FROM 2021 TO 2029.
AND AN INITIAL STUDY AND INEFFECTIVE DECLARATION IN ACCORD AFTERNOONS WITH CEQA.
SO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TONIGHT IS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPT THE HOUSING ELEMENT AS WELL AS CERTIFY THE NEGATIVE DECLARATION PURSUANT TO CEQA.
SO THE HOUSING ELEMENT IS AN ELEMENT OF THE GENERAL PLAN WHICH IS REQUIRED TO BE UPDATED EVERY EIGHT YEARS, AND WE'RE ENTERING THE SIXTH REQUIRED ITERATION OF HOUSING ELEMENT WHICH WE REFER TO AS THE SIXTH CYCLE.
SO HOUSING ELEMENT CON TANS A SET OF GOALS, POLICIES AND ACTION TO ADDRESS THE COMPREHENSIVE HOUSING NEEDS OF ALL THE CURRENTLY AND THE ANTICIPATED RESIDENTS AT ALL INCOME LEVELS DURING THE CYCLE.
SO JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE COMPONENTS, THE HOUSING ELEMENT UPDATE IS AN EXTENSIVE PLANNING PROCESS THAT CONSISTS SEVERAL STAGES.
THE STAKEHOLDER AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT GOES ON THROUGH THE THE UPDATE PROCESS, AND THAT'S WHY IT'S LISTED FIRST.
THEN WE REVIEW THE PREVIOUS HOUSING ELEMENT AND UPDATE ALL THE BACKGROUND DOCUMENTATION INCLUDING A NEEDS ASSESSMENT WHICH PROVIDE A PROFILE OF DEMOGRAPHIC AND HOUSING RELATED DATA IN THE CITY, AND ANALYSIS OF FAIR HOUSING, WHICH LOOKS AFFAIR HOUSING THROUGH OUTREACH, ENFORCEMENT, LAND USE PATTERNS AND ANY DISPROPORTIONATE NEEDS THAT MAY EXIST AND AN ANALYSIS OF CITY'S GOVERNMENTAL AND NON-GOVERNMENTAL CONSTRAINTS.
SO WE CONDUCT AN INCONVENIENT TOWER OF THE CITY AS LAND DUE TO SITE ANALYSIS TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THE SITES ARE AVAILABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THE HOUSING TO SEEN THAT YOU ARE -- TO MEET THE CITY'S NEEDS, AND THE FINAL HOUSING ELEMENT CONSISTS OF AN ACTION PLAN THAT CONTAINS THE GOALS, POLICIES AND PROGRAMS WHICH ARE RECOMMENDED ACTIONS TO BE TAKEN OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT EIGHT YEARS TO ASSIST THE CITY IN MEETING THE HOUSING NEED.
AND SO IN SLIDE MIGHT SEEM FAMILIAR BUT JUST AS A QUICK REVIEW ON WHAT THE GOALS,
POLICIES, OBJECTIVES -- >> ERIKA, CAN I INTERRUPT? CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE LOUDER? THE VOLUME IS NOT COMING THROUGH AS CLEARLY, SO IF YOU COULD SPEAK UP, PLEASE.
IS THIS BETTER IF I HOLD THE MICROPHONE?
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AND AS I WAS SAYING, JUST A QUICK REVIEW OH WHAT THE GOALS, POLICIES AND OBJECTIVES AND PROGRAMS ARE.
THIS SLIDE MIGHT SEEM FAMILIAR, BUT JUST TO REITERATE HOW THEY ARE RELATED TO EACH OTHER, SO STARTING FROM TOP, GOALS PROVIDE THE LONG-TERM VISION AND SERVE AS THE FOUNDATION OF THE PLAN ITSELF.
THERE ARE BROAD STATEMENTS OF WHAT THE CITY AND THE RESIDENTS HOPE TO ACHIEVE OVER TIME.
SO POLICIES FOR STATEMENTS THAT GUIDE DECISION MAKING TO IMPLEMENT THE GOALS.
AND OBJECTIVES ARE SPECIFIC AND MEASURABLE ACTION ORIENTED STATEMENTS THAT MARK PROGRESS TOWARDS THE GOAL.
PROGRAMS ARE THE SPECIFIC IMPLEMENTABLE ACTIONS THAT CARRY OUT THE POLICIES.
AND SO THOSE ARE THE ACTIONS YOU WILL SEE BEING TAKEN OVER THE NEXT EIGHT YEARS.
AND SO JUST TAKING A QUICK LOOK AT OUR RHNA NUMBERS WHICH I KNOW WE TALK ABOUT QUITE OFTEN, SO THERE'S A FEW WAYS THAT WE CAN PLAN FOR THE RHNA, ALSO KNOWN AS THE REGIONAL HOUSING NEEDS ALLOCATION.
FIRST WE LOOK AT THE PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE PERMIT PIPELINE AND ARE EXPECTED TO RECEIVE A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY DURING THE PLANNING PERIOD.
THEN WE LOOK AT CAPACITY ON VACANT SITES.
FINALLY, IF WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SITES IDENTIFIED TO CAPTURE THE RHNA ON VACANT SITES, WE LOOK AT SITES THAT ARE DEVELOPED BUT ARE IDEAL FOR REDEVELOPMENT.
THEY'RE ALSO REFERRED AS TO UNDERUTILIZED SITES.
AND SO JUST TAKING A QUICK LOOK AT THE NUMBERS I THINK THAT KEVIN HAD MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, THE RHNA FOR THE CITY, IT WAS A TOTAL OF 7,812 UNITS THAT THE CITY MUST PLAN FOR DURING THE NEXT EIGHT YEARS.
AND I'LL DIVE INTO THE NOTE IN JUST A MOMENT, BUT JUST AS A NOTE THE 7,812 DOES NOT INCLUDE A BUFFER THAT IS RECOMMENDED BY THE STATE.
AND SO AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, ONE OF THE KEY COMPONENTS OF THE HOUSING ELEMENT DOES INCLUDE THE SITE ANNAL ANALYSIS AND INVENTORY, AND WHILE THE CITY IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR BUILDING THE HOUSING, CITIES MUST MAKE SITES AVAILABLE FOR HOUSING IN A MANNER THAT MAKE THE RHNA TARGETS POSSIBLE DURING THE CYCLE.
SO AS I MENTIONED, THE RHNA ALLOCATION IS 7,812 UNITS.
HOWEVER, WITH THE RECOMMENDED 15 TO 30 PERCENT BUFFER FOR LOWER AND MODERATE INCOME RHNA WHICH IS NEEDED TO ENSURE THERE'S ENOUGH CAPACITY THROUGHOUT THE CYCLE, WE ALSO NEED TO PLAN FOR ADDITIONAL LOWER AND MODERATE INCOME UNITS.
AND ONE THING TO CONSIDER AND KEEP IN MIND IS THAT THERE ARE SPECIFIC CRITERIA THAT SITES MUST MEET TO QUALIFY TO MEET THE LOWER INCOME RHNA.
SO IF DEVELOPMENT COMES IN AT A DENSITY LOWER THAN WHAT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED FOR ANY ONE OF THE SITES THAT QUALIFY FOR LOWER INCOME, THE CITY WOULD QUICKLY HAVE AN ISSUE WITH CAPACITY, WHICH IS WHY THE BUFFER IS SO IMPORTANT.
AND JUST LOOKING AT THE SCREEN, VERY BROADLY, TWO OF THE LARGE CRITERIAS ARE THAT SITES MUST BE BETWEEN 0.5 AND 10 ACRES TO FACILITATE HOUSING AFFORDABLE TO LOWER INCOME HOUSEHOLDS, AND THEY MUST HAVE A DEFAULT DENSITY OF AT LEAST 20 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
AS DICTATED BY THE ZONING AND THE GENERAL PLAN.
AND SO JUST QUICKLY TAKING A LOOK AT THE MAP HERE THAT WE'VE SEEN BEFORE BUT IT HAS ALL THE VACANT AND UNDERUTILIZED SITES IDENTIFIED, AND I'LL BREAK DOWN ALL THE NUMBERS ON THE NEXT SLIDE.
SO WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT CAPACITY, BUT LET'S GET INTO WHAT THE NUMBER LOOK LIKE IN THE FINAL PLAN.
SO WHEN YOU FACTOR IN THE PIPELINE PROJECT, WHICH ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS ALREADY IN THE PIPELINE FOR THE CITY, AND A PROJECTION ADUS TO BE DEVELOPED AND VACANT AND UNDERUTILIZED CAPACITY, YOU END UP WITH 9,859 UNITS TOWARDS THE ABOVE MODERATE INCOME RHNA.
OF 3,534, 661 UNITS TOWARDS THE MODERATE INCOME RHNA AND 677 UNITS TOWARDS THE LOWER INCOME RHNA OF 2,963.
SO I HAVE SHOWN HERE UNDER THE EXISTING ZONING REGULATIONS THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE THE CAPACITY TO ACCOMMODATE THE LOWER AND MOWED RAT INCOME RHNA AND IS THIS IS ABUSE CURRENTLY ONLY THE DOWNTOWN SPECIFIC PLAN ALLOWS FOR THE DEFAULT DENSITY I MENTIONED OF 20 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
HOWEVER, BECAUSE THE CITY IS CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS UPDATING THE ZONING ORDINANCE A NEW TOTAL CAPACITY WAS CALCULATED BASED ON THE UPDATED ZONING REGULATION, AND THE ADOPTED GENERAL PLAN LAND USE DESIGNATION.
AND SO THIS NEW CAPACITY AFTER THE SITES WILL BE REZONED WILL PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL CAPACITY OF 3,160 LOWER INCOME UNITS AND 947 MODERATE INCOME UNITS.
AND SO -- ADDITIONAL MODERATE INCOME UNITS.
AND SO ONCE WE FACTOR IN THE QUALIFYING SITES FROM THE RED ZONE YOU END UP MAY WITH A VERY GENEROUS BUFFER OF 874 LOWER INCOME UNITS AND 293 MODERATE INCOME UNITS.
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SO JUST AS A NOTE, BUS THE ZONING CODE WAS NOT ADOPTED BEFORE THE DEADLINE OF OCTOBER 15TH, A PROGRAM WAS INCLUDED IN THE HOUSING ELEMENT THAT DOES COMMIT THE CITY TO MAKING THESE SITES AVAILABLE, AND SO SPEAKING OF PROGRAMS, I WILL NOW HAND IT OVER TO MY COLLEAGUE ELIZABETH FOR REVIEW OF THE OUTREACH CONDUCTED AND TO DIVE INTO THOSE GOALS, POLICIES AND PROGRAMS THAT I HAVE BRIEFLY MENTIONED.>> AND, ELIZABETH, BEFORE YOU JUMP INTO THAT, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING THAT REFERENCED A REZONE.
THAT IS SPECIFICALLY BASED ON THE THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WITH YOU SEVERAL TIMES IN PAST ON UPDATING OUR ZONING REGULATIONS TO LINE WITH THE GENERAL PLAN.
SO IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE GOING OUT AND REZONING PROPERTY CITYWIDE.
WE'RE ACTUALLY AMENDING THE ZONING REGULATIONS TO ALIGN WITH THE GENERAL PLAN, SO IN DOING THAT, BECAUSE AS ERIKA STATED WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT A ADOPTED BY OCTOBER 15TH, WE WILL PLAN TO HAVE THAT ADOPTED HOPEFULLY IN I WOULD SAY EARLY TO MID 2022.
AT THAT POINT THEN THE COMPLIANCE THAT SHE TALKED ABOUT WOULD BE IN EFFECT.
I DIDN'T YOU, THE COMMISSION OR THE PUBLIC TO HAVE A PERCEPTION THAT SOMEHOW WE'RE GOING OUT AND REZONING THE CITY.
WE'RE JUST ALIGNING THE ZONING WITH THE ALREADY ADOPPTED GENERAL PLAN BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW RIGHT NOW WE'RE OUT OF ALIGNMENT WITH OUR CURRENTLY ZONING IN SOME INSTANCES THAT WAS ADOPTED OVER 25 YEARS AGO AND THE GENERAL PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED THREE YEARS AGO.
>> I'LL GET US MOVING ON HERE.
I'M JUST GOING TO PROVIDE A BRIEF SUMMARY OF THE OUTREACH THAT WAS CONDUCTED FOR THIS UPDATE AND THEN I'LL GET INTO THE DETAILS OF THE GOALS AND PROGRAMS OF THE HOUSING ELEMENT.
SO EXTENSIVE PUBLIC OUTREACH WAS CONDUCTED THROUGHOUT THE PLANNING PROCESS.
IN ADDITION TOO AN ONLINE SURVEY THAT WAS AVAILABLE IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH AND TWO CITY COUNCIL AND PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS, THE CITY HELD THREE PUBLIC WORKSHOPS WITH LIVE TRANSLATIONS IN SPANISH, ONE STAKEHOLDER COMMUNITY MEETING WHICH WAS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND TO COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS AND BE A TOTAL OF EIGHT INDIVIDUAL AND SMALL GROUP STAKEHOLDER INTERVIEWS WHICH WERE ALSO OPEN TO ALL MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
THE CITY ALSO MAILED A FLYER TO ALL HOUSEHOLDS IN INDIO WITH INFORMATION FOR THE PUBLIC MEETINGS IN BOTH SPANISH AND ENGLISH.
AND THE CITY PROMOTED THE MEETINGS AND PUBLIC REVIEW OPPORTUNITIES ON A WEB PAGE THAT WAS DEDICATED TO THE PROJECT.
AND ALSO THROUGH AN EMAIL NEWS FOR INTERESTED PARTIES AND ON THE CITY'S SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORM WHICH ALSO INCLUDED LIVE STREAMING OF THE MEETINGS ONTO FACEBOOK.
APPENDIX F OF THE HOUSING ELEMENT PROVIDERS A DETAIL SUMMARY OF THE OUTRACH CONDUCTED AND THE FEEDBACK RECEIVED.
AND THE RESULTS OF ALL OF THIS OUTREACH THAT WAS CONDUCTED, THEY WERE CAREFULLY CONSIDERED IN THE PREPARATION OF THE HOUSING ELEMENT ITSELF, PARTICULARLY AS IT RELATES TO THE GOALS, POLICIES AND PROGRAMS WHICH I'LL NOW TAKE US THROUGH.
SO THE HOUSING ELEMENT'S PROGRAMS NEXT ON ON SIX MAIN GOALS WHICH ARE SHOWN HERE ON THE SCREEN, AND I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH THEM.
FIRST AN ADEQUATE SUPPLY AND DIVERSE RANGE OF HOUSING TYPES THAT ALIGN WITH THE NEEDS OF ALL HOUSEHOLDS.
NEXT AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING SUPPLY THAT MEETS THE NEEDS OF EXTREMELY LOW, VERY LOW, LOW AND MODERATE INCOME HOUSEHOLDS.
A WELL OF HAD MAINTAINED AND PRESERVED HOUSING STOCK.
RENTAL AND OWNERSHIP HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES FOR ALL INCOME LEVELS.
ENHANCED QUALITY OF LIFE FREE FROM DISPLACEMENT.
AND A CITY THAT PROMOTES EQUALITY AND INCLUSIVITY.
NOW I'LL GO INTO DETAIL ON PROGRAMS OF THE HOUSING ELEMENTS, AND THE PROGRAMS ARE THE STEPS THAT THE CITY SHOULD TAKE THROUGHOUT THE HOUSING ELEMENT CYCLE TO ACHIEVE THESE GREATER GOALS AND TO HELP THE CITY ACHIEVE THEIR RHNA TARGETS.
SO THE PROGRAMS OF THE HOUSING ELEMENT, THEY DO INCLUDE MANY ONGOING EFFORTS, SO LIKE KEVIN AND ERIKA BOTH MENTIONED, THE ZONING CODE UPDATE.
BECAUSE PROGRAMS SUCH AS THIS, THEY'RE ANTICIPATED TO BE COMPLETED, SO IT WILL BE AN EASY THE WAY TO START SHOWING THAT YOU ARE IMPLEMENTING AND MAKING PROGRESS TOWARDS YOUR HOUSING ELEMENT.
ADDITIONALLY, MANY PROGRAMS OF THE HOUSING ELEMENT ARE INCLUDED IN RESPONSE TO RECENT LEGISLATIVE CHANGES AS THE STATE HAS BEEN VERY ACTIVE OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS IN ADOPTING LEGISLATION AS IT RELATES TO HOUSING.
SO WHAT WE HAVE HERE, WE HAVE PROGRAMS TO PROVIDE AN ADEQUATE SUPPLY AND VARIETY
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OF HOUSING TYPES.THESE PROGRAMS INCLUDE UPDATES TO THE DENSITY BONUS PROGRAM IN RESPONSE TO CHANGES IN STATE LAW WHERE ADDITIONAL INCENTIVES BEYOND THOSE REQUIRED COULD BE CONSIDERED.
AN UPDATE TO THE CITY'S DEVELOPMENT FEES WHICH CAN INCLUDE AN EVALUATION OF OPPORTUNITIES TO REDUCE FEES IN EXCHANGE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.
AN UPDATE TO ZONING CODE TO INCREASE FLEXIBILITY IN DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR RESIDENTIAL USES, AND TO ACCOMMODATED THE RHNA AND THE BUFFER THROUGH THE DENSITIES IDENTIFIED IN THE 2040 GENERAL PLAN, SO MAKING SURE THAT YOU'RE CONFORMING WITH YOUR GENERAL PLAN.
AN INCENTIVE FOR LOT CONSOLIDATION IS NEEDED TO FACILITATE THE DEVELOPMENT OF AFFORDABLE HOW LONG, ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE SITES DOWNTOWN.
MANY OF THOSE SITES ARE SMALLER THAN THE .
AND ON THOSE SITES THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE LAST TWO HOUSING ELEMENT CYCLES AND ARE BEING REIDENTIFIED, A PROGRAM IS ALSO NEEDED TO ALLOW BY-RIGHT DEVELOPMENT WHERE 20% OR MORE OF THOSE UNITS WILL BE AFFORDABLE.
AND LIKE I MENTIONED, THE STATE HAS BEEN VERY BUSY AS IT RELATES TO NEW LEGISLATION, SO A LOT OF THESE PROGRAMS YOU SEE, THEY ARE RELATED TO THOSE LEGISLATIVE UPDATES AND THESE SPECIFICALLY ARE AIMED TO HELP MEET THE VARYING NEEDS OF THE POPULATION.
SO THE FIRST PROGRAM LISTED IS RELATED TO ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.
THIS INCLUDES NEEDED UPDATES FOSTER PROVISION OF ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS, RESOURCES TO ASSIST HOMEOWNERS WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF ACCESS A RI DWELLING UNITS, AND AN INCENTIVE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF ADUS THAT MAY BE MADE AFFORDABLE TO LOWER-INCOME HOUSEHOLDS.
I MEAN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.
NEXT WE HAVE EMERGENCY SHELTERS, AND THESE US IN BE PERMITTED BY RIGHT IN AT LEAST ONE ZONE.
AND THEN ALSO PARKING REQUIREMENTS MUST ENSURE THAT THEY ARE CALCULATED BASED ON THE DEMONSTRATED NEED TO ACCOMMODATE THE STAFF.
THE EMPLOYEE AND FARMWORKER HOUSING PROGRAM, THIS ENSURES THAT EMPLOYEE HOUSING IS PERMITTED WITH THE SAME REGULATIONS AS SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCES IN THE SAME ZONE.
SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, MEETING SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS, IT MUST BE PERMITTED IN RESIDENTIAL AND MIXED USE ZONES.
LOW BARRIER NAVIGATION CENTERS, THESE CONNECT PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS WITH SUPPORT PROGRAMS, AND THEY DO NEED TO BE INCORPORATED INTO THE ZONING CODE.
LARGE COMMUNITY CARE FACILITIES SURFING SEVEN OR MORE PERSONS, THESE NEED TO BE PERMITTED IN AT LEAST ONE ZONE WITHOUT DISCRETION.
AND HOUSING ON RELIGIOUS SITES.
THIS PROVIDE A PROCESS BY WHICH RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS CAN RECEIVE PARKING REDUCTIONS IN EXCHANGE FOR HOW LONG.
SO ESSENTIALLY BUILDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON THEIR PARKING LOTS.
AND THAT WAS REALLY -- PARKING LOTS.
AND THAT WAS REALLY RELATED TO THE YIGBY MOVE.
MOVEMENT THAT WAS RELATED TO UPDATES TO EXISTING PROCESSES AND ONGOING MONITORING THROUGHOUT THE PLANNING PERIOD INCLUDE THE PROVISION OF PERMIT STREAMLINING FOR QUALIFYING PROJECTS UNDER SB 35 SO THIS IS MORE LEGISLATION FROM THE
I CAN START BACK OVER 2 THIS SLIDE IF THAT WORKS.
THE SLIDE HADN'T PROGRESSED YET.
SO SB 35, ENSURING THAT RELEVANT DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS ARE PROVIDED ONLINE AND ARE UPDATED AS NEEDED JUST TO ENSURE TRANSPARENCY UNDER.
UNDER STATE LEGISLATION THERE'S A LIST OF SPECIFIC DOCUMENTS THAT MUST BE REQUIRED AND UP TO DATE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.
A SURVEY OF THE HOUSING STOCK TO DETERMINE THE CONDITION OF THE HOW LONG IN INDIO.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE CODE FORM DIVISION IS GOING TO BE TAKING ON.
CONTINUED PURSUIT OF GRANT APPLICATIONS TO IDENTIFY FUNDING TO SUPPORT AFFORDABLE HOW LONG PRODUCTION.
CONTINUE TO TRACK THE CAPACITY FOR HOUSING THROUGHOUT THE PLANNING PERIOD TO ENSURE NO NET LOSS OF CAPACITY, AND THIS IS WHERE THAT BUFFER REALLY COMES INTO PLAY TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU DON'T RUN INTO ANY ISSUES WITH A NET LOSS OF CAPACITY AS IT RELATES TO YOUR REMAINING RHNA TARGET THROUGHOUT THE PLANNING PERIOD.
REPLACEMENT REQUIREMENTS IN THE EVENT THAT A PROPERTY IS REDEVELOPED.
THIS IS SIMILAR TO THOSE REPLACEMENT REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU SEE IN DENSITY BONUS LAW.
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AND THEN MONITORING NEW DESIGN STANDARDS JUST TO ENSURE THAT THEY ARE OBJECTIVE.THIS IS A NEW REQUIREMENT FOR NEW DESIGN STANDARDS.
PROGRAMS RELATED TO HOUSING ASSISTANCE FOR HOUSEHOLDS, THEY INCLUDE HOUSING REHABILITATION.
THE CITY PROVIDES HOUSING REHABILITATION SUPPORT TO ELIGIBLE RESIDENTS THROUGH THE CURRENT MINOR HOME REPAIR PROGRAM, AND THIS PROGRAM WITH THE HOUSING ELEMENT SETS OUT TO SEEK NEW FUNDING TO SUPPORT THIS PROGRAM EVEN FURTHER.
THE HOUSING CHOICE VOUCHERS PROGRAM, THIS JUST COMMITS THE CITY TO CONTINUING TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROGRAM AND TO COORDINATE WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY.
AND THEN HOME OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES COORDINATES WITH DEVELOPERS AND HOUSING NON-PROFITS TO EXPLORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR CREATIVE OWNERSHIP MODELS AND FOR AFFORDABLE OWNERSHIP DEVELOPMENTS.
IT'S NOT A DEVELOPMENT THAT WE SEE A LOT OF BUT THERE ARE EXAMPLES THAT EXIST OUT THERE, SO REALLY REACHING OUT TO NON-PROFITS AND DEVELOPERS WHO CAN HELP MAKE THAT POSSIBLE WITHIN THE CITY.
AND THEN PROGRAMS THAT INCREASE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES FOR ALL THE POPULATION AND INCREASE QUALITY OF LIFE.
THEY INCLUDE AN INCREASED ACCESSIBILITY FOR THOSE WITH DISABILITIES, AND THIS REALLY AIMS TO CONNECT DEVELOPERS AND RESIDENTS TO ACCESSIBILITY RESOURCES SUCH AS HOME RETROFIT GUIDES AND EVEN UNIVERSAL DESIGN STANDARDS THAT CAN INCREASE IN-UNIT ACCESSIBILITY, AMONG OTHER RELATED RESOURCES.
THIS IS TO ENSURE A PROCEDURE IS PROVIDED IN THE EVENT THAT A DEVIATION FROM EXISTING REGULATIONS IS NEEDED TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THOSE WITH DISABILITIES.
PRESERVATION OF AT-RISK AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
THIS INCLUDES COLLABORATION WITH ITS HOUSING AUTHORITY AND THE CEO VALLEY HOUSING COALITION.
CONSIDERATION FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A HOUSING TRUST FUND.
THIS PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO REALLY START TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT LOOKING AT OPPORTUNITIES TO INCREASE ACCESS TO STATE AND FEDERAL GRANTS AND TO START TO COLLECT AND ALLOCATE FUNDS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
THROUGH THIS PROGRAM, THE CITY CAN REALLY EXPLORE WHAT FUNDING SOURCES MAY BE AVAILABLE.
AND THEN THE NEXT ONE THAT'S TIED IN WITH THIS HOUSING TRUST FUND, AN ANALYSIS TO LOOK AT THE FEASIBILITY OF INCLUSIONARY ZONING.
SO THIS COULD POTENTIALLY SERVE AS A FUNDING STREAM FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT COULD BE PAIRED WITH THE HOUSING TRUST FUND.
AND THEN THE LAST ONE HERE, PLACE-BASED STRATEGIES.
THESE WOULD PRIORITIZE PLANNING EFFORTS IN A MANNER THAT ADVANCES FAIR HOUSING ACCESS AND OPPORTUNITY FOR UPWARD MOBILITY.
AND I KNOW IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION.
THIS IS THE LAST SLIDE ON THE PROGRAMS THAT I'LL TAKE TO YOU.
PROGRAMS TO INCREASE COORDINATION AND PARTNERSHIPS INCLUDE ANNUAL HOUSING FORUM WHERE THE CITY CAN DISCUSS THE PROGRESS MADE TOWARD THE HOUSING ELEMENT THROUGH DISCUSSION OF THE ANNUAL PROGRESS REPORTS.
THESE ARE REPORTS THAT ARE ALREADY REQUIRED AND UNDER NEW LEGISLATION THEY ARE REQUIRED TO BE BROUGHT BEFORE A DECISION MAKING BODY, AND THIS COULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS TO PROVIDE AN ANNUAL HOUSING FORUM.
FOSTERING PARTNERSHIPS, AND THIS IS REALLY INCORPORATED THROUGHOUT THE HOUSING ELEMENT THROUGH SEVERAL PROGRAMS TO REALLY IDENTIFY OPPORTUNITIES FOR INCREASED COORDINATION AMONG AGENCIES AND ORGANIZATIONS.
PROVIDING INFORMATION ON AVAILABLE RESOURCES AND PROGRAMS ONLINE TO BETTER CONNECT RESIDENTS TO WHAT IS AVAILABLE.
EDUCATION ON FAIR HOW LONG AND ACCESSIBILITY.
THIS IS ALSO INCLUDED THROUGHOUT THE HOUSING ELEMENT AND CAN BE PAIRED WITH THE ANNUAL HOUSING FORUMS, FOR EXAMPLE, AND RESOURCES CAN BE PROVIDED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.
AND THEN CONTINUING TO PARTNER WITH INLAND FAIR HOUSING AND MEDIATION BOARD FOR FAIR HOW LONG SERVICES AND PROVIDING THOSE REFERRALS TO THE MEDIATION BOARD.
SO THAT WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION.
I'M GOING TO WRAP THINGS UP WITH NEXT STEPS AND THEN WE'LL CLOSE THINGS OUT.
THE FINAL STEPS WITHIN THIS PROCESS ARE LISTED HERE, AND KEVIN TOUCHED ON THIS EARLIER BUT WE HAVE INCORPORATED COMMENTS RECEIVED DURING THE PUBLIC REVIEW PERIOD AND THROUGH THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT REVIEW SO HCD'S REVIEW, AND WE FINALIZED THE DRAFT HOUSING ELEMENT WHICH IS WHAT IS BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.
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WE'RE HERE TONIGHT REQUESTING YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO ADOPT THE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT FOSTER HOUSING ELEMENT AND TO CERTIFY THE INITIAL STUDY INEFFECTIVE DECLARATION PURSUANT TO CEQA.AND UPON THAT RECOMMENDATION, WE WOULD THEN BRING THE DRAFT HOUSING ELEMENT CBWD THE NEGATIVE DECLARATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR ADOPTION AND CERTIFICATION OF THE CEQA DOCUMENT.
AND THEN FINALLY, ONCE THE HOUSING ELEMENT IS ADOPTED, IT COULD GO BACK TO HCD FOR THEIR REVIEW AND FINAL CERTIFICATION.
AND THAT PROCESS CAN TAKE UP TO 90 DAYS.
ONE THING TO NOTE IS THAT HCD, THEY ONLY CERTIFY AN ADOPTED HOUSING ELEMENT, SO THESE ARE JUST KIND OF THE STEPS IN THE PROCESS.
SO THAT'S ALL WE HAVE FOR YOU TONIGHT.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING YOUR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS, AND WE'RE HERE.
COMMISSIONERS, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
I WAS LOOKING INTO SOME OF THE PROGRAM'S RECOMMENDATIONS, AND I WANTED TO ASK, YOU KNOW, WHAT DID YOU USE TO DETERMINE THE TIMELINE? I KNOW THAT SOME PROGRAMS ARE SET FORWARD TO HAVING YEAR ONE 1 YEAR TWO, ONGOING, SO I WANTED TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING BECAUSE I THINK THAT THERE ARE A FEW PROGRAMS THERE THAT COULD -- OR THAT MIGHT, YOU KNOW, BE GOOD FOR US TO START DOING MAYBE YEAR ONE OR GIVE ME THE SENSE THAT WE NEED SOME SORT OF URGENCY.
SO I WANTED TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT WENT INTO THE TIMELINE FOR EACH PROPOSED PROGRAM.
? SO I'LL MAKE AN INITIAL COMMENT AND THEN I'LL TURN IT OVER TO ERCKA AND ELIZABETH.
SO THERE ARE SEVERAL FACTORS THAT GO INTO THAT.
ONE IS CERTAINLY THE ABILITY TO RESOURCE THE PROGRAM ACTIVITIES, AND BASED ON AVAILABLE RESOURCES, SO WHEN I WAS REVIEWING THESE AND SPEAKING WITH ELIZABETH AND ERIKA ALONG WITH JESUS GOMEZ AND LEILA NAMVAR, THAT WAS TAKEN INTO FACTORS, VICE CHAIRPERSON, AND THEN CERTAINLY THERE ARE THING THAT RISE TO A LEVEL OF PROMINENCE IN TERMS OF ACTIONS THAT WE MUST TAKE TO CONTINUE PROGRESS.
ONE OF THE DIFFERENCES I THINK IN THIS CYCLE OF THE HOUSING ELEMENT PROCESS IS THE HCD EXPECTATION FOR SUBSTANTIVE PROGRESS, ANNUAL PROGRESS IS HIGHER, SO SHOWING SUBSTANTIVE PROGRESS SUCH THAT WE ARE RETAIN OUR CERTIFICATION WITH ACT WAS ALSO A FACTOR, BUT I'M GOING TO TURN THE OVER TO ELIZABETH AND ERIKA TO FURTHER EXPAND ON MY RESPONSES.
>> YES, THANK YOU, EXPENSIVE LIKE KEVIN MENTIONED, MANY OF THESE ARE IMPLEMENTING STATE LEGISLATION THAT'S ACTUALLY ALREADY IN EFFECT.
AND THEN WE, OF COURSE, WORKED REALLY CLOSELY WITH STAFF TO DEVELOP THESE TIMELINES IN A MANNER THAT MAKES SENSE.
SOME OF THESE ARE PROGRAMS THAT THE CITY IS ALREADY WORKING ON, SUCH AS THE ZONING CODE UPDATE AND THE FEE STUDY, SO WE WORKED WITHIN THOSE EXISTING TIMELINES.
OTHER TIMELINES OF THE HOUSING ELEMENT, HCD SEES THIS IS YOU DO NOT WANT TO EXTEND YOUR PROGRAM TIMELINES THROUGHOUT THE LIFE OF THE PLANNING PERIOD SO YOU DON'T WANT TO SET COMPLETION FOR LIKE YEAR SEVEN OR YEAR EIGHT BECAUSE THE INTENT OF THESE PROGRAMS IS TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT ACHIEVING YOUR RHNA TARGET FROM A PRODUCTION PERSPECTIVE IS -- IS POSSIBLE AND THAT, TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE, THE CITY IS NOT -- IS FACILITATING THAT DEVELOPMENT IN A MANNER THAT IT CAN BE BUILT WITHIN THE PLANNING PERIOD.
>> THAT'S ACTUALLY REALLY HELPFUL.
I GUESS I HAVE A FEW COMMENTS ABOUT SOME OF THESE TIMELINES AND SOME OF THE PROGRAMS BUT I'M NOT SURE, CHAIR YSIANO, IF THIS IS THE MOMENT OR I'M NOT SURE WHEN DO I GET THE OPPORTUNITY OR WHEN DO WE GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON THE DRAFT.
>> IF I COULD RECOMMEND TO THE CHAIR AND THE COMMISSION WEEK I THINK ANY CHANGES TO PROGRAM GUIDELINES ORE MOVING AROUND PROGRAMMING SUGGESTIONS, WHICH IS CERTAINLY THE DISCRETION OF PLANNING COMMISSION, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU DISCUSS THAT DURING A DELIBERATIVE PHASE FOLLOWING THE CLOSE OF THE PUBLIC MEETING TO ALLOW THE PUBLIC THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT FIRST.
SO IF THE VICE CHAIRPERSON IS OKAY WITH THAT THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION TO ALLOW PUBLICMENT COULD, AND THAT PLAY FACTOR INTO THAT SUBSTANTIVE DISCUSSION AS
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WELL.WE'LL HOLD OFF ON THAT UNTIL STAFF OR COMMISSIONER DELIBERATION.
KEVIN, I DID NOTICE TOWARD THE END THAT IT SAYS THAT HCD CAN TAKE UP TO 90 DAYS TO REVIEW THIS.
AREN'T WE LIKE A LITTLE BEHIND SINCE OUR DEADLINE IS FEBRUARY AND WE'RE IN DECEMBER?
>> SO WE HAVE TO BE DONE BY FEBRUARY.
AS LONG AS WE'RE DONE BY FEBRUARY OR EARLIER, THEN WE DON'T GET IN TROUBLE.
>> IF IT TAKES THEM UP TO 90 DAYS, THAT'S BLUNTLY ON THEM.
BUT OUR GOAL IS WE GOT THAT AUTOMATIC 90-DAY EXTENSION.
SO IF YOU TAKE ACTION THIS EVENING, THEN WE PLAN TO GO TO COUNCIL AT THE FIRST MEETING IN JANUARY, AND WITH A FOLLOW-UP CONSIDERATION IN THE SECOND MEETING WHICH WOULD MEET THAT TIMELINE.
AGAIN, IF IT TAKES THEM 90 DAYS, THAT'S ON THEM, BUT WE MET OUR LEGAL OBLIGATION.
ERIKA AND ELIZABETH, IF I SAID ANYTHING WRONG, PLEASE CORRECT ME.
>> I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE.
I SEE SOMEONE IS RAISING THEIR HAND.
I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION BUT I CAN GO AFTER -- >> IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD, VICE CHAIR.
MY QUESTION IS MR. SNYDER, IF WE WERE TO MAKE ANY SUGGESTIONS FOR ANY MOTIONS, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO SCHEDULE SOMETHING TO CONTINUE ON IN THAT TIMELINE THAT YOU JUST OUTLINED FOR US TO BE ABLE TO MEET IN FEBRUARY? DO WE HAVE -- DO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO COME BACK WITH THESE COMMENTS, MAKE SUGGESTED EDITS AND THEN -- WHAT WOULD WE NEED TO DO ANY JUST WANT TO GET A SENSE OF WHAT IS POSSIBLE AND AVAILABLE, YOU KNOW, AS WE CONTINUE.
>> JUST TO CLARIFY, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE COMMISSION OR INDIVIDUALS?
>> NO, NO, THE COMMISSION TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDING FOR RESOLUTION.
23 IF WE DECIDED WYE WEREN'T READY TO MOVE THAT FORD BECAUSE THERE WERE EDITS WE'D LIKE TO SEE REFLECT, I'M SAYING IS THERE A POSSIBILITY FOR TO US STILL DO THAT AND MAINTAIN THAT TIMELINE THAT YOU JUST OUTLINED FOR US.
>> SO THE SHORT ANSWER IS YES.
I MEAN, WE WOULD, IDEALLY IF THERE ARE CHANGES THAT THE COMMISSION WANTS TO MAKE, WE WOULD CERTAINLY WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY TO IDENTIFY THEM TONIGHT.
IF THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE OR THE COMMISSION WANTS TO TAKE MORE TIME, WE CAN CERTAINLY SCHEDULE A FOLLOW-UP -- WELL, YOU COULD MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS PUBLIC HEARING ITEM TO A DATE CERTAIN.
WE WOULD LIKELY HAVE TO DO THAT AS A SPECIAL MEETING AS WE ARE GOING INTO THE HOLIDAY AND WE ARE NOT PLANNING A SECOND MEETING THIS MONTH BECAUSE IT IS DURING THE HOLIDAY SEASON.
BUT IF WE HAD THE MAJORITY COMMISSION AVAILABLE FOR A ME GO TRIER TO THEN, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING NEXT WEEK, UNFORTUNATELY WE WOULD THE NOT HAVE ADEQUATE NOTICE PERIOD, SO WE COULD ATTEMPT TO DO THAT IN EARLY JANUARY AND PUSH BACK THE COUNCIL CONSIDERATION BECAUSE COUNCIL -- SO THE DATES I GAVE THE COMMISSION ARE IDEAL DATES, BUT IF WE WENT TO CITY COUNCIL ON JANUARY 19TH AS THE FIRST CONSIDERATION AND TO COUNCIL AGAIN ON FEBRUARY 3RD, IF I'M GETTING MY DATES CORRECT, THAT WOULD STILL HELP US ANITA THAT FEBRUARY 12TH DEADLINE.
SO, YES, VICE CHAIRPERSON, THERE IS THE OPPORTUNITY.
HOWEVER, IF THE COMMISSION DOES WANT TO MAKE CHANGES AND YOU ARE READY TO DO SO THIS EVENING OR PROPOSED CHANGES, WE WOULD CERTAINLY WELCOME THAT TO CONTINUOUS ALONG THIS PROCESS.
AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, WE WERE, ASSISTANT PLANNER CITY WE WERE NOT GIVEN A LOT OF TIME ON THIS.
WE GOT YOUR RHNA NUMBERS LATE SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THE HURRY-UP ASPECT OF THIS, AND UNFORTUNATELY DESPITE THE EFFORTS OF MANY PARTIES TO CONVINCE THE STATE THAT BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC SITUATION, THAT AN EXTENSION SEEMED REASONABLE, THEY DECLINED TO CONSIDER THAT, SO WE'RE OPERATING UNDER THESE FAIRLY AGGRESSIVE SCHEDULE TIMELINES.
IN YOUR ANALYSIS IN YOUR REPORT, DID YOU HAPPEN TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE CALIFORNIA OPPORTUNITY MAP AND KIND OF DO A COMPARE AND CONTRAST, WHAT WE CURRENT HAVE, WHETHER IT BE LOW RESOURCE OR HIGH RESOURCE IN THE CITY? AND I JUST WANT TO KIND GET YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT.
>> ERIKA OR ELIZABETH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS WANT TO RESPOND.
WE HAVE HAD A PREVIOUS -- PREVIOUS CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS, WHICH LENDS BACK INTO TAX CREDIT FINANCING, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF ONE OF WANTS TO RESPOND TO THAT.
THAT IS DEFINITELY ONE OF THE FACTORS THAT WE USE WHEN WE'RE PICKING OUT SITES FOR THE SITES ANALYSIS, AND ONE OF THE COMPONENTS OF THE HOUSING ELEMENT, AS I
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MENTIONED, IS WHAT WE CALL THE AFSH ANALYSIS AFFIRMATIVE FURTHERING FAIR HOUSING ANALYSIS, AND WITHIN THAT WE ANALYZE SPECIFICALLY ALL THE SITES THAT WE HAVE PICKED AS THEY COMPARE TO THE EXISTING RESOURCES IN AREAS, AND WHAT THAT MEANS FOR THE SITES AND THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT IT WOULD PROVIDE FOR THE LOWER-INCOME HOUSEHOLDS SPECIFICALLY.SO THE REASON I'M ASKING THIS QUESTION IS BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED DOWNTOWN INDIO, AND CURRENT IT'S CONSIDERED A LOW RESOURCE, AND SO WE HAVE HOUSING DEVELOPERS OR NON-PROFITS THAT WONT THAT BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
SOMETIMES THE FINANCING PART OF IT IS BECOMES VERY DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO APPLY BECAUSE OUR AREA IS JUST RENTED DOWNTOWN AS A LOW RESOURCE INSTEAD OF A HIGH RESOURCE AREA.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT LIKE WHAT WOULD BE YOUR RECOMMENDATION FOR THAT OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD DISCUSS?
>> IF I COULD JUMP IN, I THINK HAVING THE CERTIFIED FIGHT HOUSING ELIMINATE, THAT PARTICULAR PROGRAM IS ANNUALLY REVIEWED AND MODIFICATIONS ARE MADE IN TERMS OF OF THE HIGH RESOURCE OR LOW RESOURCE DESIGNATION.
I THINK WHEN WE HAVE A CERTIFIED HOUSING ELEMENT, WE'RE IN A STRONG POSITION TO GO BACK TO THE -- TO HCD WHICH ALSO RUNS THAT PROGRAM AND WORK WITH THEM TO ALIGN THE NEW CERTIFIED HOUSING ELEMENT WITH THAT PROGRAM AND MAKE NECESSARY MODIFICATIONS, SO TO ME AND ERIKA AND ELIZABETH SHOULD WEIGH IN, TO ME HAVING THE CERTIFIED HOUSING ELEMENT IDENTIFIED PUTS US IN A STRONGER POSITION TO MAKE A CASE OF MODIFICATION HCD.
FORT BENEFIT COMMISSION, HIGH RESOURCE AND LOW RESOURCE THERE IS THE CALIFORNIA TAX PROGRAM WHICH PROVIDE 4% AND 9% TAX CREDIT FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND BASED ON CHANGES IN STATE LAW IN 2018, NEV A NEW PROGRAM WHERE THEY ACTUALLY GO THROUGH IN EACH MUNICIPAL AND THEY ASSESS AND MAP OUT THESE HIGH RESOURCE AND LOW RESOURCE AREAS.
I THINK OUR HOUSING ELEMENT WILL HELP US MAKE THAT CASE FOR MODIFICATION THAT MAY INCREASE THE DESIGNATION FROM LOW RESOURCE TO HIGH RESOURCE FOR SOME, PERHAPS ALL OF THE SITES.
BUT ERIKA OR ELIZABETH MAY WHAT AN TO WEIGH IN AS WELL.
ELIZABETH CAN SPEAK TO THE PROGRAMS AFTER I DOUGH, BUT I ALSO WANTED JUST TO POINT ON IT THAT WE DO IDENTIFY SITES IN DOWNTOWN AREA BECAUSE OF ALL THE EFFORTS THE CITY HAS BEEN MAKING, AND AND WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE FOR REDEVELOPMENT AND TO REVITALIZE THE DOWNTOWN CORE.
HOWEVER, ONLY ABOUT 200 UNITS TOTAL WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, AND THAT MAKES UP ABOUT .
-- I'M SORRY, ABOUT 5% ALL UNITS WE'VE IDENTIFIED AS AVAILABLE FOR LOWER INCOME HOW LONG.
SO A LOT OF THE SITES AND UNITS WE'VE IDENTIFIED IN OTHER AREAS THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE HIGHER RESOURCES.
WHERE THEY HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED.
ELIZABETH, IF YOU WANT TO JUMP IN IN TERMS OF PROGRAMS INCENTIVIZING.
AND WE CERTAINLY RECOGNIZED WHERE THOSE HIGHER OPPORTUNITY AND LOWER OPPORTUNITY AREAS WERE WITHIN THE CITY, AND YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THE PROGRAMS THAT THE HOUSING ELEMENT, MANY OF THEM ARE AIMED AT FOCUSING FUTURE PLANNING EFFORTS IN A MANNER THAT DOES ADVANCE FAIR HOUSING.
SO TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION WHERE DECISIONS ARE BEING MADE, WHERE FUNDING IS BEING ALLOCATED, AND ALLOCATING THAT FUNDING TO THAT RAY METHODOLOGY THAT AIMS TO CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR UPWARD MOBILITY AND INCREASE ACCESS TO RESOURCES, ACCESS TO OPPORTUNITY FOR CLEAN ENVIRONMENT, EDUCATION, EMPLOYMENT.
THESE ARE THE FACTORS THAT ARE ALL CONSIDERED WITHIN THE TCAC RESOURCES.
>> SO COMMISSIONER, I'M NOT SURE IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION BUT I THINK THE LONG AND SHORT OF IT IS IS THAT -- AND YOU AND I HAVE HAD A SEPARATE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS -- I THINK THE CITY AGAIN, HAVING THAT HOUSING ELEMENT, PARTICULARLY CERTIFIED HOUSING ELEMENT, I THINK PUTS US IN A BETTER NEGOTIATING SITUATION TO MAKE MODIFICATIONS TO CURRENT MAPPING THAT THEY'VE DONE WITH OUR COMMUNITY WHERE THEY'VE DESIGNATED THESE AREAS BUT THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION THAT THEY NEED TO HAVE TO BETTER
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REFLECT WHAT THEY NEED TO DO TO UPDATE THOSE MAPS.SO I THINK ONCE WE HAVE THAT PROVERBIAL PLAN IN HAND, WE CAN GO SIT DOWN WITH THEM AND SEEK THOSE MODIFICATIONS THAT WILL HELP THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPERS WHO ARE DESIRE RUST OF SEEKING THAT TAX CREDIT FUNDING, BUT IT MAY NOT BE NECESSARILY THE STRONGEST POSITION BASED ON THOSE DESIGNATIONS.
>> ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER COMMENTS?
>> I JUST WANT TO ASK FOR A QUICK QUESTION THAT COMMISSIONER LOPEZ ASKED AS FAR AS THE CALIFORNIA OPPORTUNITY MAP.
ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY ZONES, LIKE THE ZONES THAT ARE HEADLINE ARE OPPORTUNITY ZONES WITHIN THE CITY THAT WOULD MAYBE -- OR IS THAT SOMETHING I SEPARATE?
>> IT'S UNFORTUNATELY SIMILAR TERMINOLOGY BUT SOMETHING SEPARATE.
THE FEDERAL OPPORTUNITY ZONE DESIGNATIONS AND THEN THE OPPORTUNITY MAPPING THAT THE STATE HAS DONE FOR TAX CREDIT FINANCING ALLOCATION, THEY USED THE SAME TERM "OPPORTUNITY," BUT THEY'RE TWO SEPARATE THINGS, SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SPECIFICALLY IS A MAGNIFICENT EFFORT THAT THE STATE HAS DONE STATEWIDE TO IDENTIFY AREAS WITHIN EACH COMMUNITY THAT ARE HIGH RESOURCE AND LOW RESOURCE, WITH HIGH RESOURCE BEING THOSE AREAS THAT ARE LIKELY TO GET MORE CONSIDERATION FOR TAX CREDIT FINANCING, AND AGAIN IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA THERE IS TWO MAJOR TAX CUT CREDIT FINANCING PROGRAM.
THE 4% PROGRAM AND THE 9% PROGRAM.
AND THESE ARE THE PROGRAMS THAT MOST AFFORDABLE HOW LONG DEVELOPERS SEEK TO PURSUE FUNDING THROUGH.
IT'S A VERY COMPETITIVE APPLICATION PROCESS THEY GO THROUGH.
SO BEING IN A HIGHER DESIGNATED AREA MAKES THEM MORE COMPETITIVE, BUT IT'S UNFORTUNATELY SIMILAR TECHNOLOGIES.
IT'S A GREAT QUESTION BECAUSE IT CAN GET CONFUSING.
NOW, IS THERE ANYWHERE IN REPORT THAT WOULD HIGHLIGHT AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE THAT WOULD MAYBE ENCOURAGE DEVELOPERS TO DO SOMETHING IN THOSE AREAS? BECAUSE THEY DO OFFER TAX CREDITS.
SO WE HAVE ON OUR CITY WEBSITE THE MAP FEDERAL OPPORTUNITY ZONES, AND THERE ARE FEDERALLY BASED INCENTIVES IN THOSE AREA THAT WOULD BE POLITICAL ALONG WITH POTENTIALLY THE STATE TAX CREDIT SITUATION, SO THEY DON'T NECESSARILY -- THEY DON'T WORK IN ALIGNMENT BUT THEY COULD WORK IN THE SAME LOCATION.
FOLLOWING THAT SAME QUESTION, AND I THANK MEMBER LOPEZ FOR BRINGING THIS UP, ABOUT THESE PARTICULAR TYPES OF ZONES.
KEVIN, YOU WERE OUTLINING SORT OF THE STRATEGY AFTER THE ADOPTION OF THE HOUSING ELEMENT.
DOES THAT NEED TO BE OUTLINED IN THE HOUSING ELEMENT AS A PROGRAM THAT WE WILL BE, YOU KNOW, PURSUING THIS REASSESSING OF THE MAPS? AND THEN THE SECOND HALF TO THAT SAME QUESTION IS ARE THERE STRATEGIES THAT COULD BE SET FORWARD NOW BEFORE WE GET THERE OR BECAUSE WE'RE RELYING ON SORT OF THIS AGENCY TO, YOU KNOW, REASSESS, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE CAN BE DOING LOCALLY TO OFFSET SOME OF THOSE OPPORTUNITY CHALLENGES? AND THE REASON I SAY THIS, AND THANK YOU FOR SENDING THAT MAP OF THE LAND THAT WE OWN, IS THERE'S SO MUCH OPPORTUNITY IN THE DOWNTOWN, AND FOR IT TO NOT BE CONSIDERED ONE OF THOSE INCENTIVE AREAS SEEMS A BIT DIS-- I FEEL LIKE WE MIGHT BE AT A DISADVANTAGE.
AND I RECOGNIZED THAT IT ONLY NEEDS ABOUT 5% OF THE -- OF OUR TOTAL TARGET, BUT I THINK DENSE AND DEVELOPMENT IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA HAS BEEN AN INTEREST OF THE COMMISSION, OF THE GENERAL PLAN, AND SO I JUST WANTED TO ASK YOU THOSE QUESTIONS.
I'LL GIVE AN INITIAL RESPONSE, AND THEN ELIZABETH OR ERIKA MAY WANT TO WEIGH IN AS WELL.
BUT DO WE NEED TO PUT IT IN THE PROGRAMS? MY ANSWER WOULD BE NO BECAUSE THE PROGRAMS ARE GEARED TOWARDS COMPLIANCE FOR HOUSING ELEMENT PURPOSES.
WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS GOING TO THE STATE AND USING OUR HOUSING ELEMENT AS AAL TOOL IN THE NEGOTIATION TO MAKE THE MAPS.
AS I MENTIONED BEFORE THEY ANNUALLY UPDATE THOSE OPPORTUNITY MAPS AND THEY DO IT BASED ON A VARIETY OF FACTORS BUT MOSTLY BASED ON NEW DATA, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH NEW DATA TO PRESENT TO THEM SO THAT THEY WILL BE IN I THINK A MOYER INFORMED DECISION BECAUSE THEY RELY ON PARTICULARLY CENSUS DATA AND OUR RAY ALLEN CYST IS VERY CURRENT AND REAL.
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AND THEN ON YOUR SECOND QUESTION, I THINK THE SHORT ANSWER IS AS I MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING, SPECIFIC STRATEGIES KIND OF GETTING MORE INTO THE WEEDS, IF YOU WILL, THAT'S THE NEXT PHASE OF THIS PROJECT, SO GETTING THE HOUSING ELEMENT DONE IS FIRST.THE SECOND -- PHASE IS TO BEGIN A CONVERSATION WITH THIS COMMISSION, THE COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY ON WHAT ARE OUR ACTUALLY PRO-HOUSING.
PRO-HOUSING IS A DESIGNATION THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED FROM THE STATE THAT WE WANT TO RECEIVE FROM THE STATE BECAUSE IT MAKES US MORE COMPETITIVE FOR GRANTS THAT SUPPORT HOUSING, WHETHER THEY BE INFRASTRUCTURE OR DIRECT HOUSING SUPPORTIVE GRANTS.
SO GETTING THAT DESIGNATION PUTS THE CITY IN A VERY COMPET YOU THE POSITION, AND THERE AREN'T A LOT OF CITIES CURRENTLY IN THE STATE THAT HAVE THAT, SO GETTING THAT DESIGNATION COULD BE VERY GOOD FOR US.
BUT GOING THROUGH THAT CONVERSATION STRATEGY IS WHERE I THINK WE'LL GET INTO THE PROVERBIAL NITTY-GRITTY AND REALLY BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THOSE STRATEGIES.
I'LL TURN IT OVER QUICKLY TO ELIZABETH AND ERIKA IF THEY WANT TO ADD ANYTHING ON EITHER OF MY RESPONSES.
I SEE THAT THIS IS ALMOST LIKE A TWO-TIERED APPROACH WHERE WHAT KEVIN IS DISCUSSING IS ACTUALLY CHANGING THE MAP ITSELF BASED ON UPDATED DATA.
WHAT I WAS MENTIONING IS THAT THE PROGRAMS OF THE HOUSING ELEMENT, SUCH AS THE PLACE BASED STRATEGIES, WHILE THESE ARE HIGH LEVEL PROGRAMS, THESE ARE PROGRAMS AIMED AT ADVANCING ACCESS TO OPPORTUNITY.
SO EXACTLY WHERE THAT'S FOCUSED AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT WILL BE DETERMINED THROUGH THE IMPLEMENTATION.
BUT THE INTENT OF THIS -- THESE PROGRAMS IS TO REALLY CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR UPWARD MOBILITY AND BETTER ACCESS TO RESOURCES, SO IT IS INCLUDED AS A A PART OF THE HOUSING ELEMENT, NOT FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF CHANGING THE MAP IN HOW THE STATE MAY DEFINE IT, BUT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF HAVING THAT INFLUENCE FROM A LONGER-TERM APPROACH THROUGH THE PROGRAMS OF THE HOUSING ELEMENT.
AT THIS POINT SHALL WE MOVE FORWARD TO ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENTS OR WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT?
>> SEEING THAT THERE WERE NONE, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND COMMISSIONERS, WE'VE ASKED A LOT OF QUESTIONS OF STAFF, AND DO WE HAVE ANY MORE DISCUSSION REGARDING THIS?
DO WE WANT TO -- >> I JUST HAVE A QUESTION REALLY QUICK FOR YOU, KEVIN.
WHAT ARE THE PLANS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS OUTSIDE OF THIS ORTON BUT WHAT ARE THE PLANS FOR THE $3.8 MILLION THAT WE HAVE THAT'S GOING TO BE GOING TOWARDS I GUESS AFFORDABLE HOUSING, I GUESS FOR -- I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOING TO GO TOWARD LAND ACQUISITION.
I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE A POT OF MONEY.
IS THAT PART OF IT? LIKE WHAT ARE WE DOING TO -- HOW MUCH OF IT ARE WE GOING TO SPEND NEXT YEAR ON THIS TO KIND GET THE BALL ROLLING? IS IT WE HAVE TO GET THIS DONE? WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT AS AN ACTION ITEM, IS IT PART OF IT OR IS IT AFTER THE FACT?
I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT LIKE -- >> LET ME SEE IF I CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION.
SO THE CITY HAS WHAT IS CALLED A LOW, MODERATE HOUSING INCOME FUND.
>> THIS IS THE RESULT OF THE DISSOLUTION OF THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCIES AGENCIES, AND WHAT IS CALLED THE ROBS PROCESS WHERE WE GET MONEY THROUGH THIS PROCESS ANNUALLY THAT GOES INTO THIS FUND.
THE FUND HAS APPROXIMATELY $2 MILLION IN IT.
WHICH IF -- OOH A PER UNIT BASIS, AND THIS MONEY HAS TO BE USED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
IT CAN ONLY BE USED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THE PRODUCTION AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND IF YOU FIGURE THAT AFFORDABLE HOW LONG ON A PER UNIT BASIS RIGHT NOW RUNS ANYWHERE BETWEEN $300,000 TO $400,000 PER UNIT DEPENDING ON THE LOCATION OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT MONEY DOESN'T GO VERY FAR.
SO IT IS -- SO IT IS A POLICY AND STRATEGY CONVERSATION.
THE HOUSING ELEMENT ITSELF DOES NOT ADDRESS THAT, BUT THE HOUSING ELEMENT PROGRAM PROPOSALS COULD BE A BASIS FOR UTILIZATION OF THOSE FUNDS AS LONG AS IT LED TO PRODUCTION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND SO YOUR ACTION, IF YOU DEEM TO TAKE ACTION THIS EVENING, SETS A POTENTIAL FOUNDATION ONCE THE COUNCIL TAKES ACTION, TO THEN HAVE A FOLLOW-UP POLICY DISCUSSION WITH THE COUNCIL ON HOW THOSE -- AND I KEEP SAYING THE COUNCIL.
WE DO HAVE THE INDIO HOUSING AUTHORITY AND THEY DO ACT AS A BOARD OF HOUSING AUTHORITY, SO TO BE CORRECT IT IS THE INDIO HOUSING AUTHORITY BOARD, WHICH IN
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THIS INSTANCE THIS IS ALSO THE COUNCIL, FOR THEM TO CONSIDER POTENTIAL UTILIZATION OF THOSE FUNDS BUT AGAIN IT DOES NEED TO BE USED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.I DON'T KNOW IF ERIKA OR ELIZABETH WANT TO ADD ANYTHING TO WHAT I SAID, BUT IT WOULD BE -- AND IT COULD BE ALSO IN THE VEIN OF WHAT I JUST REFERENCED THOSE UPCOMING PRO-HOUSING STRATEGIES, THAT COULD BE A PART OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS ON HOW BEST TO UTILIZE THAT LIMITED BUT POTENTIALLY IMPACTFUL MONEY.
ERIKA OR ELIZABETH, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD OR CORRECT IF I SAID IT ERRONEOUSLY?
>> IAL FELL LIKE THE ONLY THING THAT I COULD ADD, AND I'M NOT EVEN SURE IT'S THAT VALUABLE, BUT WE DO HAVE THAT PROGRAM FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF A HOUSING TRUST FUND, SO WHERE THERE IS MONEY FOR HOUSING THAT BECOMES AVAILABLE TO THE CITY THAT COULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR COLLECTING THOSE FUNDS TO IMPLEMENT THE PRODUCTION OF AFFORDABLE HOW LONG.
>> CHAIR, DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?
BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS IT -- SO IS IT AN ACTION ITEM AFTER WE GET THIS?
>> I WOULD SAY -- >> OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND ON TOP OF THIS?
>> I WOULD SAY THAT YOU, ALONG WITH THE COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY, ONCE WE GET THIS DONE WE HAVE A SECOND PHASE OF GRANT FUND WORK FOR PRO-HOUSING STRATEGIES, AND I THINK I WOULD RECOMMEND TO YOU AND THE REST OF THE COMMISSION TO RESERVE THAT TOPIC FOR THAT DISCUSSION BECAUSE THAT IS A STRATEGY DISCUSSION.
THOSE ARE AVAILABLE FUNDS, AS ELIZABETH MENTIONED, THE CONCEPT OF HOUSING TRUST FUND, THAT COULD BE USED TO SUPPORT THAT CONCEPT IF THAT WAS A PREFERRED STRATEGY.
IT COULD BE USED FOR DIRECT PARTICIPATION IN A PROJECT.
IT COULD BE USED FOR ACQUISITION.
SO MY POINT IS, IS THAT TO ME THAT IS A STRATEGY CONVERSATION THAT'S GOING TO COME -- THAT'S GOING TO START, WE'RE GOING TO START TALKING WITH IN THE RELATIVELY NEW FUTURE.
>> I CAN'T SAY I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT EARMARKED FOR ACQUISITION.
>> I CAN'T SELL TELL YOU -- >> I COULD MAKE A RECOMMENDING.
WITH THAT I'M SAYING IS THERE IS ANOTHER FORUM FOR THAT CONVERSATION IN THE NEAR-TERM.
>> COMMISSIONERS, WHAT DO WE THINK AS FAR AS MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS? IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'LL HAVE PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITIES TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE AS A GROUP HAVE BROUGHT UP.
IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN GETTING US TO ACHIEVE OUR TARGETS.
I THINK THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TIME TO MAKE COMMENTS AND THERE WILL BE MORE TIMES AFTER THE FACT, BUT I THINK THIS IS TIME SENSITIVE AND WE PROBABLY, UNLESS WE HAVE SOME MAJOR CONCERNS, WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH IT UNLESS SOMEONE HAS A DIFFERENT OPINION, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.
>> I ACTUALLY DO HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION AND THE REASON IS ONCE WE MOVE THIS FORWARD, LANGUAGE IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT I THINK AND WE REALLY NEED TO OUTLINE THINGS AND EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET INTO THE WEEDS OF THE STRATEGY, NI THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT COULD BE OUTLINED IN THIS SORT OF FORMAT THAT IS THE HOUSING ELEMENT, AND SO I'D LIKE TO PUT SOME THINGS UP AS I THINK THAT I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT WITH THE PROGRAMS, IF THAT'S OKAY.
SO FOR PROGRAM 10 IN PARTICULAR, AND I HAVE MY NOTES.
BUT PROGRAM 10, I WANTED SEE IF THERE WAS ANYWAY TO ADD THE POTENTIAL OF WAIVING THE FEES WHERE IT'S NOT AS A POTENTIAL STRATEGY WITHIN THAT, IF WE THINK IT'S NECESSARY, AND IT WILL ACTUALLY GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY OR IT WILL GIVE IT MORE TEETH AS A POTENTIAL THING THAT WE CAN LOOK INTO.
FOR PROGRAM 21, IT'S ACTUALLY IN LINE TO WHAT COUNCILMEMBER -- I'M SORRY -- COMMISSIONER LOPEZ WAS SAYING, AND I WANTED TO SEE IF THERE WAS ANYWAY WE COULD ADD SOMETHING ABOUT LOOKING INTO DEBT FINANCING, WHICH I KNOW IT IS USED AS A STRATEGY A LOT OF TIMES AND ADDING THAT IN THERE TO -- AS WE'RE LOOKING INTO THESE PROCESSES, MAKING SURE THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS HIGHLIGHTED.
PROGRAM 29, I WANTED TO SAY THAT THE REDUCED PARKING FOR MULTI-FAMILY HOMES SEEMS TO BE A CONCERN.
I'VE WORKED ON THIS LOW INCOME HOUSING PROJECT IN THE CITY OF COACHELLA, AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF THAT IS THAT THERE ISN'T ENOUGH PARKING FOR A LOT OF THESE FOLKS BECAUSE THERE ARE SEVERAL WORKING ADULTS IN A HOME, SO I WANTED US TO -- MAYBE THIS IS NOT THE MOMENT, KEVIN, BUT JUST TO
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REALLY THINK ABOUT WHAT WE WOULD BE DOING WHEN WE ARE DOING THAT, IF WE WOULD BE AFFECTING, YOU KNOW, THE LOW INCOME FAMILIES THAT UNFORTUNATELY NEED TO HAVE SEVERAL CARS IN ORDER TO DO, YOU KNOW, MANY JOBS.PROGRAM 34, I HAVE TO MAKE IT MORE AVAILABLE TO LOW INCOME HOUSING GROUPS.
AND I KNOW THAT YOU ALL WERE INCLUDING -- THE INCLUSIONARY HOUSING BUT I WANTED TO SEE IF THERE WAS ANY SORT OF CLARIFICATION THAT WE NEEDED TO DO ABOUT THE FUNDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE THROUGH THIS PROCESS THAT KEVIN WAS SAYING.
AND IF THERE IS A NEED TO EVALUATE.
DOES OUR INTENT OR THE PROGRAM, IF IT DOESN'T INCLUDE AN INCLUSIONARY HOW LONG OR IF IT DOESN'T INCLUDE, YOU KNOW -- HOW ARE WE -- I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT SORT OF SETTING OURSELVES UP FOR SOMETHING THAT WE COULD GO DOWN AND STUDY, BUT IF IT DOESN'T WORK FOR THE CITY, DOES THAT MEAN THAT THIS TRUST FUND IS NOT GOING TO BE ACCESSIBLE AND AVAILABLE IF WE COME TO A ROADBLOCK.
AND SO THOSE WERE MY CONCERNS.
MY INTENT NOT TO HOLD US UP, BUT I DO THINK THAT IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR US TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE THINGS, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE BECOMES A DOCUMENT THAT HOLDS US RESPONSIBLE TO OUR FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY, AND SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE MY THOUGHTS.
>> CHAIR, COULD I PROVIDE SOME RESPONSE TO THE VICE CHAIRPERSON'S COMMENTS? I THINK, VICE CHAIRPERSON, THOSE ARE ALL GOOD COMMENTS, AND THERE ARE A LEVEL OF DAILY THAT I THINK IS THE NEXT STAGE OF CONVERSATION, AND IT WILL OCCUR IN A COUPLE DIFFERENT WAYS.
ONE IS THROUGH THE PRO-HOUSING STRATEGIES THAT I'VE REFERENCE SEVERAL TIMES AFTER THIS.
THAT'S AUN AVENUE FOR DISCUSSION, AND I THINK GETTING FURTHER INTO DETAIL ABOUT SOME OF THE THOUGHTS YOU HAVE, WHETHER IT BE THE PARKING SITUATION OR OTHERS, CERTAINLY THAT IS AN OPPORTUNITY.
A LOT OF GOING TO BE ULTIMATELY COMING BACK TO THE COMMISSION IN SOME MANNER, PARTICULARLY IF THEY INVOLVE CHANGES TO CODE OR CONSIDERATION.
SO I THINK, AND YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG IN SAYING THIS, BUT I THINK THERE IS NO -- BY TAKING ACTION THIS EVENING, I DON'T THINK THIS CLOSES THE DOOR FOR FUTURE DISCUSSION THE WITH COMMISSION, WITH THE COUNCIL, BETWEEN THE COMMISSION AND COUNCIL ON THE MAYBE HIGHER LEVEL OF DETAIL STRATEGIES OR CONSIDERATIONS OR CONCERNS OF THINGS YOU POINTED OUT.
I THINK THAT THE OPPORTUNITY EXISTS.
SO THIS IN ESSENCE, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, IS THE FRAMEWORK FOR THOSE CONVERSATIONS TO COME.
AND AGAIN, I THINK THERE ARE MULTIPLE VENUES, BUT I'LL ALSO REFER TO ELIZABETH OR ERIKA IF THEY WANT TO EITHER CORRECT WHAT I SAID OR ADD TO.
>> YEAH, I MEAN, I WOULD SAY THE ONLY THING -- I MEAN, IF YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE, WELL, DOES THIS PROGRAM HAVE ENOUGH TEETH TO IT, LIKE KEVIN SAID, UPON IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS PROGRAM, YOU CAN ADD MORE TEETH TO IT.
WE'VE CERTAINLY MADE SOME OF THE LANGUAGE A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBLE BECAUSE WE'VE HEARD FEEDBACK IN DIFFERENT CAPACITIES, SO WE'VE TRIED TO DEVELOP A PLAN THAT SORT OF MEETS EVERYONE'S NEEDS IN SOME WAY.
BUT, YES, KEVIN, YOU SAID IT PERFECTLY, A LOT OF THIS WILL BE -- THE DETAILS WILL BE SORTED OUT THROUGH THE IMPLEMENTATION.
REGARDING THE HOUSING TRUST FUND.
IF FOR WHATEVER REASON THE FEASIBILITY ANALYSIS WAS DETERMINED THAT INCLUSIONARY ZONING WAS NOT FEASIBLE OR ANYTHING ALONG THOSE LINES, THE HOUSING TRUST FUND ACTUALLY, JUST HAVING ONE, IT MAKES YOU ELIGIBLE FOR STATE AND FEDERAL GRANTS THAT YOU'RE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR OTHERWISE, SO IT'S REALLY JUST A FUND FOR COLLECTING MONEY, AND IT COULD BE FROM A LOT OF DIFFERENT SOURCES, SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE FROM ONE DEDICATED SOURCE.
IT CAN BE FROM A LOT OF SOURCES.
AND CERTAINLY THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT OF A HOUSING TRUST FUND, THAT'S WHEN YOU WOULD SORT OUT ALL OF THE DETAILS OF HOW THOSE FUNDS ARE GOING TO BE EXPENDED.
>> AND IF I COULD HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL THING JUST TO WHAT ERIKA SAID, YOU HAD RAISED SOME QUESTIONS OR THOUGHTS ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT FEES.
AND JUST FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE PUBLIC RECORD, ANY TIME WE LOOK A DEVELOPMENT FEES, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH A VERY DETAILED ANALYSIS TO SUBSTANTIATE NOSE FEES, WHETHER THEY BE INCREASING, REDUCING OR WAIVING.
AND SO ANY CONSIDERATION OF CHANGES TO DEVELOPMENT FEES WOULD REQUIRE THAT, AND
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ULTIMATELY THAT WOULD BE A PUBLIC PROCESS AS WELL.SO A LOT OF -- AS ERIKA SAID, A LOT OF THESE ARE IN THE CONTEXT OR WRITTEN FROM THE CONTEXT OF EVALUATE GRATING BECAUSE A LOT OF IT HAS PRECURSOR WORK OF ANY POLICY DISCUSSION CAN OCCUR.
SO THAT FLEXIBLE TERM THAT ELIZABETH USED JUST A SECOND AGO IS REALLY HOW THEY'RE WRITTEN.
AGAIN, THE TIMELINES, AND I'LL TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY, I TRIED TO RATIONALIZE IN WHAT I FELT REASONABLE NECESSITY TERM OF THE STAFFING RESOURCES WE COULD DO AND BE SUCCESSFUL AT A, SO SOME OF THESE THINGS MAY NOT AS QUICK AS THE COMMISSION OR THE PUBLIC LIKE, BUT I THINK REASONABLY WE TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY FORMER PERFORM THEM AND DO THAT IN A MANNER THAT SHOWS THAT PROGRESS FORWARD THAT IS SO IMPORTANT FOR THE HCD.
>> IF WE DON'T HAVE ANYMORE COMES, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.
AM AMENDMENT TO THE CITY OF INDIO GENERAL PLAN 2040 ADOPTED ON SEPTEMBER -- HOLD ON A SECOND.
THIS IS NOT THE ACTUAL ACTION.
THIS IS HOW YOU KNOW IT'S LATE IN THE DAY AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE I'M GOING.
I'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT WE ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 2013 RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL AN AMENDMENT TO THE GENERAL PLAN 2040 ADOPTING THE CITY OF INDIO HOUSING ELEMENT 2021 TO 2029 SUBJECT TO SPECIFIC FINDINGS AND CONCLUSIONS AND DETERMINING THAT PROJECT WILL NOT HAVE SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENT BECAUSE THE UPDATED HOUSING PLAN IS A POLICY DOCUMENT AND IS ADOPTED WOULD NOT RESULT IN ANY DIRECT OR INDIRECT PHYSICAL IMPACTS BECAUSE NO DEVELOPMENT OR CONSTRUCTION IS AUTHORIZED BY THIS ACTION AND ADOPTING A NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR THE PROJECT.
>> CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
>> VICE CHAIRPERSON RODRIGUEZ CEJA.
>> CHAIR, CAN I SAY ONE THING ANY WANT TO THANK BOTH ELIZABETH DICKSON AND ERIKA VAN SICKEL.
THEY HAVE NOT ONLY BEEN PARTNERS IN THIS.
I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THEM.
THEY'VE GIVEN UP A LOT OF WEEKENDS AND EVENINGS ON THIS WORK IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY STAFF, SO JUST THANK YOU TO BOTH OF THEM AND THANK YOU TO THE COMMISSION FOR YOUR SUPPORT THIS EVENING.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION AND DEDICATION.
AND THEN MOVING ON TO OTHER ITEMS, IT APPEARS THAT THIS ITEM WILL BE CONSIDERED AT A
[7.1. Chandi Square: Conditional Use Permit 21-07-1069 & Design Review 21-07-489]
SPECIAL MEETING ON DECEMBER 14, 2021.>> CHAIR, YOU'RE REFERENCING 7.1, THE OTHER ITEM.
>> JUST FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD, DUE TO AN ERROR, TECHNICAL ERROR IN PUBLIC NOTICING, WE HAVE SCHEDULED AND NOTICED A SPECIAL MEETING ON DECEMBER 14TH, 2021 AT 6:00 P.M.
THE SPECIAL MEETING IS FOR THE PURPOSES OF CONSIDERATION OF THE CHANDI SQUARE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 21-07-1069 AND DESIGN REVIEW 21-07-489.
THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY ITEM THIS EVENING, AND THAT HAS BEEN PUBLICALLY NOTICED, BUT HOW WE DID YOU EVER ON THE AGENDA IS IF THERE IS ANY INDIVIDUALS THAT COULD DO WANT TO MAKE TESTIMONY THIS EVENING, THEY CAN, AND AS THE CITY ATTORNEY MAY NEED TO EXPLAIN IN FURTHER DETAIL ALTHOUGH THEY CAN MAKE TESTIMONY THIS EVENING, THEY NEED TO RETURN ON THE 14TH AND MAKE TESTIMONY DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING TO HAVE THAT ACTUALLY CONSIDERED.
ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAY SUBMIT PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM, HOWEVER, GIVEN THAT HEARING WILL BE OTTERS DECEMBER 14TH AT THE SPECIAL PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING ANY COMMENTS TO BE A PART THE OFFICIALLY PUBLIC RECORD SHOULD BE MADE AT THAT TIME THROUGH THE METHODS THAT WOULD BE IDENTIFIED ON THE AGENDA FOR THAT MEETING WHICH WILL RESEMBLE THOSE ON THIS AGENDA THIS EVENING.
>> SO AT THIS POINT WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK IF WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT.
>> AND BEFORE WE MOVE OFF THIS ITEM, WE DO CONFIRM WE WOULD HAVE A QUORUM ON DECEMBER 14TH.
I JUST WANT TO RECONFIRM WITH THE COMMISSION.
BELIEVE COMMISSIONER VALDEZ, COMMISSIONER LOPEZ, AND VICE CHAIRPERSON RODRIGUEZ CEJA WILL BE AVAILABLE, SO WE DO HAVE A QUORUM.
>> IT'S THE SAME TIME BE WA CORRECT?
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I JUST WANTED TO CONFORM THAT.
SO DID ADVERTISE IT, BUT IF WE DO NOT HAVE A QUORUM WE CANNOT PROCEED BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE A QUORUM.
SO THANK YOU FOR MAKING YOURSELF AVAILABLE ON AN OFF-NIGHT, SO TO SPEAK.
SO WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
>> JUST FOR THE RECORD, JUST -- YES, CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION.
THE HEARING WILL BE ON DECEMBER 14TH AT THE MEETING DIRECTOR SNYDER MENTIONED.
WE DID HAVE -- WAS IT JUST A DESIGN REVIEW ON THIS PROJECT AT ONE POINT IN THE LAST YEAR?
SO THIS IS WHERE UNFORTUNATELY WE WOULD GET AN -- AND I'VE EVEN DONE IT MYSELF.
CHANDI PLAZA ON INDIO BOULEVARD, YOU DID DO A DESIGN REVIEW FOR THIS, HOWEVER, CHANDI SQUARE AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF VARNER ROAD AND JEFFERSON STREET, SO IT'S TWO DIFFERENT SITES, BUT I MYSELF HAVE FLIPPED.
>> I UNDERSTAND THAT SITE, THE SITE ON INDIO BOULEVARD, BUT I KNOW WE DID REVIEW SOMETHING.
>> THERE WAS A PROJECT CONSULTATION, YES.
THERE WAS A PROJECT CONSULTATION.
I THINK ABOUT SIX TO SEVEN MONTHS AGO.
SO, YES, IT WAS WHEN ROSIE LUA WAS STILL HERE, AND SHE BROUGHT THAT TO YOU FOR YOUR REVIEW AND INPUT, BUT NO FORMAL PUBLIC HEARING OCCURRED.
SO THIS WILL BE CONSIDERED ON DECEMBER 14TH AT A SPECIAL PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
NO STUDY SESSION ITEMS. ANY COMMISSIONER COMMENTS? JACKIE?
>> I JUST WOULD LIKE TO THANK DIRECTOR SNYDER AND EVERYONE FOR A WONDERFUL YEAR TO END, AND SO GRATEFUL FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND HELP.
I DEFINITELY LEARNED A LOT BEING THE CHAIR.
KIND OF YOU'RE SITTING THERE AND YOU'RE THE VICE CHAIR.
BUT WHEN YOU'RE RUNNING'S MEETING IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT GAMBIT.
I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU, AND I'VE LEARNED SO MANY OF FROM YOU AND LEILA AND EVERYONE ON PLANNING.
I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR THAT.
WE'RE ALL HERE TO SUPPORT YOU.
>> SAME THING FOR YOU, VICE CHAIR.
AND, YES, LOOKING FORWARD ANOTHER GREAT 2022 AND MOVING THE CITY FORWARD.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, JACKIE.
IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE TOO LONG AGO THAT I WAS THE NEW GUY SITTING ON THIS END OF THE DAIS, AND SO IN THE BLINK AN EYE HERE I AM.
I LOOK FORWARD TO SERVING AS CHAIRPERSON, AND I THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR ALL YOUR ASSISTANCE AND GUIDANCE BECAUSE I WILL DEFINITELY BE NEEDING THAT.
AND I JUST WANT TO THANK MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS FOR THE TIME AND DEDICATION THAT YOU PUT INTO THIS AWAY FROM YOUR PERSONAL AND PROFESSIONAL LIVES.
IT CAN BE TIME-CONSUMING AT TIMES, BUT IN THE END WE'VE DONE SOME WONDERFUL THINGS FOR THE CITY OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, AND I HOPE THAT 2022, I LOOK FORWARD TO MORE IN-PERSON MEETINGS, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO US TAKING CARE OF A LOT OF BUSINESS IN THE NEXT YEAR.
>> CAN I MAKE A QUICK COMMENT?
>> I REALM JUST WANTED TO THANK JACKIE.
COVID KIND OF PUT EVERYTHING UPSIDE DOWN, CHANGED ALL THE RULES AND MADE THING HAD A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED, AND THEN ALL CHANGES THAT STAFF HAD TO GO THROUGH THE LAST SIX MONTHS OR SO, BUT YET THE WHOLE TIME YOU STAYED INVOLVED.
YOU MADE SURE THINGS THAT COULD MOVE FORWARD TO.
YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO BE AS GOOFED A CHAIRPERSON AS YOU ARE THE LAST DAY YOU'RE THE CHAIRPERSON.
>> CHAIR, IF I COULD JUST ADD A COMMENT AND QUESTION THAT I HAD FOR MR. SNYDER.
THE FIRST COMMENT IS I WANT TO STAY THAT I HOPE THAT I DO YOU ALL PROUD IN THIS NEW ROLE, AND I'VE HAD SOME WONDERFUL, YOU KNOW, FOLKS TAKING ON THOSE ROLES, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO BEING ABLE TO COLLABORATE AND LEARN FROM YOU ALL AND ALL THE EXPERIENCE THAT YOU ALL HAVE BEING IN THE COMMISSION FOR SO LONG.
I STILL FEEL LIKE THAT NEW GUY, AND IT'S BEEN I THINK A YEAR PLUS NOW.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOUR SUPPORT AND I HOPE YOU I CAN DO YOU PROUD.
I WANT TO SAY, FIRST, CONGRATULATIONS, KEVIN FOR PROP 68.
I SAW THAT LIST AND SAW THAT THE CITY OF INDIO GOT SOME FUNDINGS TO DO OUR SPORTS PARK AND I WAS JUMPING UP AND DOWN.
I'M INVOLVED IN SOME OF THE OTHER GRANTS OUT IN THE CITY, COACHELLA VALLEY BUT I JUST SHOWED UP TO THOSE PLANNING MEETINGS HERE IN INDIO, AND I WAS JUST SUPER, SUPER EXCITED, AND I WANT TO SAY YAY TO ALL OF INDIO.
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WE HAVE SOMETHING AMAZING COMING DOWN THE LINE.I JUST WANTED TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU FORE ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK.
I KNOW THAT IT TAKES -- I KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO PUT TOGETHER THOSE APPLICATIONS, ALL ENGAGEMENT THAT GOES INTO THEM, AND SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TOTE DEVELOPMENT TEAM AND EVERYONE THAT SUPPORTED IN THAT EFFORT.
YOU SAID EARLIER TODAY IN A MEETING ABOUT THE ZONING AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO BE SORT OF ADJUSTING IT AND NOT DOING AN IN-DEPTH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE RESHUFFLING.
I WANTED -- I KNOW IN THE PAST WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT POTENTIAL CONDITIONS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO ADD CERTAIN ZONING OR TO DESIGN GUIDELINES.
I'M CURIOUS WHEN DOES THAT HAPPEN? DOES THAT HAPPEN GRADUALLY IN THE MANNER YOU OUTLINED OR IS THERE SOME OTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO MOVE SOME OF THOSE THINGS FORWARD THAT WE BROUGHT UP TIME AND TIME AGAIN AND I THINK ARE OF INTEREST TO MANY OF US ON THE COMMISSION.
>> THAT'S ACTUALLY A GREAT QUESTION.
IN RESPONSE, THE REASON WHY I BROUGHT THAT UP EARLIER WAS JUST TO CLARIFY THAT SOMETIMES A REZONE, THAT TERM CAN MAKE PEOPLE CONCERNED THAT SOMEHOW THINGS ARE GOING TO DRAMATICALLY CHANGE, AND MY INTENT IN SAYING THAT WAS TO REALLY PUT ON THE RECORD THAT THE ZONING CODE, ZONING REGULATIONS UPDATE THAT WE'RE WORKING ON IS REALLY INTENDED TO IMPLEMENT THE GENERAL PLAN, THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL WORKED ON IN 2019.
SO WE'RE NO GOING THROUGH A REMAPPING OR REALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING IS COMING UP WITH NEW ZONING DESIGNATIONS.
IN LARGE PART NEW DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS TO SUPPORT THOSE ZONING DESIGNATIONS.
AND THAT WILL ALL BE BROUGHT FORWARD AT THE COMMISSION IN WHAT WE'RE CALLING A A UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.
BASICALLY WHAT THAT MEANS IS IF YOU GO TO OUR MUNICIPAL CODE RIGHT NOW AND YOU'RE LOOKING FOR ZONING REGULATIONS, YOU COULD GO TO TWO, THREE, SOMETIMES FOUR DIFFERENT PLACES IN THE MUNICIPAL CODE TO FIND THEM.
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS COLLAPSE THAT INTO KIND OF A ONE STOP SHOPPING EXPERIENCE WHERE YOU CAN GO TO THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE AND YOU CAN FIND THE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS IN ONE LOCATION.
IT'S GOING TO BE MORE KIND OF LIKE A BOOK FORMAT, IF YOU WILL, WHERE IT WILL HAVE INDIVIDUAL CHAPTERS, AND THOSE CHAPTERS WILL CONTAIN THE ZONING REGULATIONS, THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS.
THEY'LL HAVE THE PROCEDURAL ELEMENTS, AND YOU WON'T HAVE TO GO ALL OVER THE MUNICIPAL CODE.
WHEN THAT WILL OCCUR, I WILL ADMIT THAT WE HAVE SLOWED DOWN A LITTLE.
THE LOSS OF STAFF HAS IMPACTED THAT.
MY GOAL, MY PERSONAL GOAL IS TO GET BACK ON TRACK LATER THIS MONTH.
I'M HOLDING UP THE CONSULTANT GROUP A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE OF A WORK PRODUCT THAT I'M WORKING ON NIECINGS ON THE PROCEDURES THAT I'VE BEEN DELAYED ON.
THEY WILL TELL YOU I'VE BEEN DELAYED ON IT FOR A LONG TIME.
BUT I'M HOPING TO GET THAT DONE.
SO MY INTEREST, CERTAINLY THE INTEREST OF THE CITY MANAGER AND I'M SURE OTHERS IN THE CITY IS TOBLY THAT THROUGH THE PROCESS TO HOPEFULLY, I'M GOING TO SAY, MID-SPRING-ISH, AND ALL THE THINGS YOU REFERENCED, VICE CHAIRPERSON, I'VE ASKED COMMISSION TO KEEP KIND OF A TICKLER LIST OF ITEMS THAT THEY HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT.
IDEALLY WE COULD DO -- GO THROUGH THOSE AT THE TIME THAT WE'RE BRINGING THOSE REGULATIONS THROUGH FROM A RESOURCE PERSPECTIVE WHERE WE START PICKING THEM OUT
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AND DEALING WITH THEM ON A ONE-BY-ONE BASIS.IT'S JUST TIME-CONSUMING AND TAKES UP A LOT OF TIME THAT I WOULD RATHER BE MORE EFFICIENT, BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO THE COMMISSION, YOU ALWAYS HAVE THE RIGHT AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK FOR CONSIDERATION OF PUTTING SOMETHING IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL IN YOUR ROLE AS AN ADVISORY BODY.
WE'RE HAPPY TO WORK WITH THE COMMISSION ON THAT.
BUT IF YOU'RE WILLING TO TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE PATIENCE, I PROMISE IT WILL GET TO YOU IN THE NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE, AND IT'S BEEN A WHILE, AND AGAIN HAVING THE STAFF CHANGES THAT'S BEEN REFERENCED ALREADY AND HAVING SOME NEW STAFF ONBOARD, I THINK ONCE THEY'VE GOTTEN OVER THE PROVERBIALIAL LEARNING CURVE AND HIT THE GROUND RUNNING, THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO HELP ME SUPPORTED YOU IN GETTING TO THAT CONVERSATION HOPEFULLY MORE QUICKLY THAN I AM ESTIMATING.
ANY OTHER STAFF ITEMS, MR. SNYDER?
ONCE, THE VICE CHAIRPERSON REFERENCED, AND JUST FOR THE PURPOSES OF PUBLIC WHO MAY NOT -- ALTHOUGH THIS IS NOT DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE COMMISSION DIRECTLY, THE CITY DID GET NOTIFIED TODAY THAT WE ARE A RECIPIENT OF A MAJOR GRANT FOR OUR SPORTS COMPLEX APPROXIMATELY $8 MILLION GRANT.
THAT IS A HUGE -- >> OUTSTANDING.
>> AND ALL CREDIT GOES TO THE CITY COUNCIL, TO THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, TO THE TEAM SUPPORTING THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, TOTE CITY MANAGER.
OUR DEPARTMENT HAS HAD A VERY LIMITED BUT SUPPORTIVE ROLE IN THAT, BUT THE TEAM THAT WORKED ON THIS, AND THIS WAS OUR SECOND BITE AT THE APPLE, OH SOMETIMES IF YOU DON'T TRY, TRY AGAIN, AND TRY AGAIN WAS A MAJOR WIN FOR THE CITY.
AND I KNOW THAT THIS HAS BEEN A LONG-HELD DESIRE FOR MANY YEARS, BEEN TALKED ABOUT FOR MANY YEARS.
WHILE THIS WON'T COVER ALL THE COST, IT'S A HUGE, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, DOWN PAYMENT ON THIS COMPLEX THAT SO MANY HAVE WANT TO SEE FOR SO LONG.
SO ALL THE CONGRATULATIONS AND KUDOS TO THE COLLECTIVE TEAM EFFORT ON THAT BECAUSE IT REALLY IS REALLY COOL, TO USE THE SLANG TERM.
AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER THING I JUST WANTED TO MENTION TO THE COMMISSION, TOPPER EVENING EV WOO OUR THIRD VIRTUAL COMMUNITY MEANINGS FOR THE CORRIDOR COMMUNE PLAN 6:30 TO 8:00 P.M.
AND YOU CAN GO TO THE PROJECT WEB PAGE ON THE CITY WEBSITE AND THE ZOOM LINK INFORMATION IS IN THERE.
THE CONSULTANT TEAM AND STAFF ARE GOING TO BE OVERVIEWING MAIN COMPONENTS OF PLANS, KEY FINDINGS.
WHAT WE'RE HOPING IS TO BEGIN BRINGING THAT BACK TO YOU -- YOU'VE HAD SOME PREVIOUS CONVERSATIONS ON THIS, YOU'VE GIVEN US YOUR INPUT, AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON ELIMINATES OF THE PLAN.
WE'RE GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE WE WANT TO BRING IT IT HAD BACK TO YOU AND LOOK AT THE DETAIL AND TELL US WHAT YOU THINK.
WE ARE HOPING TO WRAP THIS UP HONESTLY RIGHT AROUND THE SAME TIME WE'RE HOPING TO WRAP UP THE STATE ZONING UPDATE.
THIS IS A STATE-FUNDED PROJECT.
WE HAVE A DEADLINE OF HAVING THIS DONE BY MID-2022.
WE PROBABLY WILL ASK FOR ANOTHER JOINT MEETING BETWEEN THE COMMISSION AND COUNCIL TO GO OVER THAT, AND THEN FOLLOWING THAT WE'LL START GETTING INTO KIND OF FINALIZING THE PUBLIC DRAFT DOCUMENT AND THEN START BRINGING THAT THROUGH THE COMMISSION FOR YOUR REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION AND ALSO THE CITY COUNCIL.
IF YOU HAVE INTEREST AND AVAILABILITY TOMORROW EVENING AND THERE'S NOTHING ON TV OR YOU DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING GOING ON AND YOU WANT TO SPEND SOME TIME AT A COMMUNITY MEETING, PLEASE JOIN US.
SO WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE COMMISSION HAS BUT THANK YOU.
I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU THIS EVENING BECAUSE THIS IS LIKE GETTING BACK A BIKE FORE ME.
I'VE BEEN AT THE MEETINGS BUT I'VE HAD A GREAT TEAM AND I'M GOING TO A GREAT TEAM DOING THIS WORK, SO I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE WITH ME THIS EVENING.
IT ALSO DIDN'T HELP -- IT HELPED IN THE FACT THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE SEVERAL MEETINGS FOR A WHILE BECAUSE WITH THE STAFFING CHALLENGES WE HAD, THAT WAS HELPFUL.
BUT YOU KIND OF GOT A LITTLE BIT RUSTY SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE COMMISSION FOR YOUR PATIENCE WITH ME THIS EVENING AND FOR LETTING ME, WITH A LITTLE STUMBLING AND BUMBLING AND THIS WILL GO SMOOTHER AS WE GO FORWARD.
>> PERHAPS IN KEEPING UP WITH LEILA YOU CAN UP YOUR CLEVER CLIPS A LITTLE BIT.
>> I DON'T THINK I WILL EVER EQUAL THAT.
I CAN ASPIRE BUT I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN ACHIEVE.
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>> I WAS GOING TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WE WERE NICE THIS TIME, BUT NEXT TIME YOU NEVER KNOW.
>> AND THAT BEING SAID, AS MY FIRST MEETING AS A CHAIR, I'M GLAD IT WAS A NICE, EASY ONE.
AND WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN?
>> I WANT TO MAKE THE MOTION TO ADJOURN.
THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT 9:15 P.M.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.