>> SINCE WE HAVE A QUORUM, I'M GOING TO CALL TOGETHER THE CITY OF INDIO
[1. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL]
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SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION MEETING.WITH ROLL CALL BEING DONE, WE WILL GO TO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
THERE IS NOBODY IN ATTENDANCE.
SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE MINUTES.
[4. MINUTES]
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT THE MINUTES?>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
>> I'LL MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT.
SO IT'S FOUR ROBERT, YOU NEED TO ABSTAIN, I GUESS BECAUSE YOU WEREN'T THERE.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR SARA?
[5. SUSTAINABILITY PLAN and ANNUAL WORK PLAN]
COMMENTS FOR SARA REGARDING THAT?>> I GUESS I SHOULD RAISE MY HAND IN TERMS OF ORDER.
I SENT SOME COMMENTS ALONG TO SARA ON THE PLAN, AND WE WENT OVER THEM AND I WILL LET SARA TAKE THE LEAD ON HOW SHE WANTED TO PRESENT THOSE COMMENTS TO YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
>> ONE MINUTE AND I'LL BRING THAT UP.
THE FIRST THING I WANT TO RECOGNIZE IS THERE'S NO NEW BRANDING TO IT.
I KNOW THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO COME BACK THIS TIME.
BUT THE BRANDING ROLL OUT IS TAKING A LITTLE LONGER THAN I THOUGHT IT WOULD TAKE.
BUT IT'S A VERY SYSTEMATIC APPROACH TO DOING THE ROLL OUT.
BECAUSE OF THAT, THE BRANDING HASN'T BEEN DONE.
BUT AGAIN, IT'S ANOTHER CHANGE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT FOR FOR THE SUSTAINABILITY PLAN.
I GOT COMMENTS FROM SEVERAL COMMISSIONERS.
AND I TRIED TO INCORPORATE MOST OF THEM.
ANETHA IS GOING TO TALK A LITTLE MORE ABOUT HERS.
BUT IN THE MEANTIME, SHE DID BRING UP SOME POINTS THAT I FELT MIGHT NOT BECOME OR WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT IT, WE MET A LITTLE EARLIER ABOUT HER SUGGESTIONS.
WE THOUGHT MAYBE INSTEAD OF WRITING IT AS ACTUAL WORK PLAN COMPONENTS, IT MIGHT BE GOOD TO JUST ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THEY'RE IMPORTANT PARTS OF A SUSTAINABILITY PLAN THAT WE DID CONSIDER.
SO ONE OF THEM WERE JUST COLLABORATING EFFORTS AND PARTNERSHIPS.
WE WANTED TO KIND OF POINT OUT THAT THERE'S A LOT OF PARALLEL SUPPORTING AND ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT OTHER ORGANIZATIONS AND AGENCIES THAT ARE WORKING ON SUSTAINABILITY THAT WE SHOULD KIND OF BE AWARE OF AND KEEP TRACK OF AND POSSIBLY TALK ABOUT.
SO I ADDED A PARAGRAPH ON THAT FOR PARTNERSHIPS, AND A COUPLE OF THE EXAMPLES THAT
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WE WOULD HAVE.AND THEN WITH THAT TO THE AGENDA, UNDER STAFF COMMENTS I WAS GOING TO GIVE KIND OF THE UPDATE EACH MONTH ON THE RECYCLING COMMISSION.
AND I THOUGHT MAYBE IT WOULD BE GOOD IF WE HAD A STANDING ITEMS WHERE ALL OF YOU COULD KIND OF BRING BACK THE THINGS THAT PARTNERSHIPS AND THE THINGS THAT YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT WE COULD TALK ABOUT AS WELL.
SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT WHETHER YOU WANT THAT AS A STANDING ITEM ON THE AGENDA OR IF WE JUST DO IT UNDER COMMENTS.
SHE TALKED ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY BEING VERY BROAD, WHICH IT ABSOLUTELY IS.
SO I ADDED A PARAGRAPH KIND OF ON THE FOCUS.
THERE WERE THINGS LIKE HOUSING THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE IN OUR WORK PLAN SPECIFICALLY.
BUT THEN IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO SUSTAINABILITY.
SO I WROTE A LITTLE PARAGRAPH ABOUT THAT AS WELL.
SHE ALSO SAID THAT IDENTIFYING LOCAL RISKS MIGHT BE A GOOD PART OF THIS PLAN.
SO I LEFT THAT BLANK FOR RIGHT NOW.
BUT I DID FIND SOME PLANS AND I THINK SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN ADD TO THAT THAT I CAN BACK UP FROM THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN AND SO FORTH THAT KIND OF HIGHLIGHT LOCAL RISKS.
IF WE WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THEM EVEN FURTHER, WE MIGHT TAKE SOME OF THE THINGS OUT OF THE WORK PLAN AND MAYBE ASTERISK THEM OR GIVE SOME SIGNAL THAT THESE EFFORTS ACTUALLY WORK TOWARD THESE SPECIFIC LOCAL RISKS.
WE HAD TALKED ABOUT LEAVING, OR MOVING FROM GAS TO ELECTRIC APPLIANCES.
A LOT OF CITIES ARE DOING THAT.
SOME OF THEM EVEN NEED SOME ORDINANCES SO THAT NEW HOUSING COULDN'T HAVE ELECTRIC APPLIANCES.
THERE IS THIS PUSH FOR RENEWABLE NATURAL GAS.
WHICH IS A REALLY IMPORTANT POSSIBILITY FOR CLEAN ENERGY.
SO WE THOUGHT REMOVING THE LANGUAGE FROM CHOOSING ONE OR THE OTHER MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO CONSIDER AS WELL.
THE REST OF THIS I JUST ADDED IN A COUPLE OF COMMISSIONERS PUT IN SOME DIFFERENT POTENTIAL PROJECTS.
SO I ADDED THOSE INTO THE LISTS.
I THINK THOSE ARE THE MAIN UPDATES.
BUT I DO WANT TO SAY THAT IF YOU DID SEND IN CHANGES FOR THE SUSTAINABILITY PLAN OR ANY KIND OF NOTES, I DO ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO BACK AND MAKE SURE THAT I INCORPORATED THEM AND THAT THEY'RE ADDED AND CHANGED CORRECTLY THE WAY THAT YOU WANTED TO SEE.
AND THEN THE LAST THING I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT WAS THE OUTREACH FOR THIS.
THE LAST MEETING WE TALKED ABOUT HOW THERE WASN'T A STANDING PLACE ON THE AGENDA TO TALK ABOUT THE SUSTAINABILITY PLAN.
BUT IT ACTUALLY BEING ON THE AGENDA IS HOW IT HAS A STANDING POSSIBILITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
THE OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS JUST TO HAVE AN OPENING FOR SOMETHING THAT ISN'T ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE IT'S HARDER TO BRING THOSE UP DURING THE MEETING.
SO THERE'S A SPECIFIC OPENING FOR THAT.
FOR INSTANCE, IF ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC HAD A COMMENT RIGHT NOW, THIS WOULD BE THE TIME TO TALK ABOUT IT.
SO THIS BEING OUR PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD DOES ADD TO THAT OR HAVING THIS MEETING PUBLISHED AS WELL DOES HELP WITH THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
BUT I DID SPEAK WITH THE COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR, AND WE CAN AND WILL BE PUTTING OUT SOME WORK ON PUTTING OUT SOME INFORMATION SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS.
AND THEN I'LL TALK TO HER A LITTLE MORE ABOUT MORE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
THOSE WERE THE THINGS THAT I INCORPORATED NOW.
THE ONLY OTHER THINGS ARE TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE INCORPORATED RIGHT AND THEN TO CHANGE THE BRANDING.
I DID WANT TO GIVE ANETHA A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO TALK ABOUT (INAUDIBLE) DETAIL ABOUT WHAT SHE DID SUBMIT AND THE THINGS THAT SHE THOUGHT OF WHEN SHE LOOKED AT THE PLAN.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO THAT NOW, ANETHA?
UNLESS I THINK BEFORE I DO THAT, PERHAPS SOME ALLOW FOR SOME FEEDBACK ON WHAT YOU SAID THUS FAR.
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WELL I'LL GO AHEAD.I KIND OF TEND TO DO THINGS SHOULD I GO AHEAD AND SCREEN SHARE, SARA?
OR I HAVE IT AND IF YOU'D LIKE, I CAN GO AHEAD AND SHARE FOR YOU.
>> YES, IF YOU CAN SCREEN SHARE THAT WOULD BE BETTER.
>> WHILE SARA IS PULLING THAT UP, I'LL JUST SAY THE FIRST PART OF IT IS WHERE I STARTED WITH, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY I WASN'T HERE WHEN THIS WAS DEVELOPED IS YOU KNOW, JUST ASKING THE QUESTION OF WHAT IS A SUSTAINABLE CITY.
AND I PREPARED A MORE DETAILED AND LENGTHY DOCUMENT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT DOCUMENT WOULD GO IN THE FILES.
BUT SHOULD WE HAVE QUESTIONS ARISE LATER, I THOUGHT IT MIGHT, YOU KNOW, SARA CAN CLARIFY THAT FOR ME.
IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO HAVE THAT ON RECORD JUST TO SHOW THE TRACKING OF SORTS AS TO THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT WE DISCUSSED.
SO IN THAT QUESTION, ANSWERING THE QUESTION OF WHAT IS A SUSTAINABLE CITY, I LOOKED AT WHICH WOULD BE ONE SLIDE OVER, PLEASE.
THESE WERE THE QUESTIONS I ASKED: WHAT IS A SUSTAINABLE CITY, WHAT ARE THE RISKS FOR US PARTICULAR HERE, WHAT ARE THE ACTIONS TO ADDRESS THE RISK, AND FOR THE MOST PART, THEY'VE BEEN INCLUDED IN THE PLAN.
I REALLY DO LIKE THE PLAN THAT WAS DEVELOPED BECAUSE IT IS VERY, YOU KNOW, ACTION.
IT LENDS ITSELF TO BEING AN EASY ACTION ITEM TO FOLLOW RATHER THAN BEING SOMETHING THAT'S OVERLY WORDED AND DIFFICULT TO IMPLEMENT.
SO I REALLY LIKE THE FORMAT AND WHAT HAS BEEN DONE SO FAR.
AND THEN THE LOCAL POLICIES AND REQUIREMENTS.
JUST MAKING SURE THOSE WERE ADDRESSED.
AND THEN THE SUMMARY RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO I'LL GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
ANSWERING NEXT PLEASE, WHAT ARE THE SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT RISKS THAT BASICALLY WENT TO THE U.N.'S DEFINITION INSTEAD OF RATHER THAN TRYING TO MAKE UP MY OWN.
THAT'S WHERE THOSE THINGS LIKE WAGES AND HOUSING AND SO ON FELL OUT OF IT.
AND LUCKILY, WELL I SHOULDN'T SAY LUCKILY, BUT AS SARA WAS SAYING THE GENERAL PLAN 2040 THAT THE CITY HAS ALREADY DONE HAS ADDRESSED A NUMBER OF THESE ITEMS. AND THERE WAS A REALLY GOOD DOCUMENT ALSO.
IT'S CALLED THE HOUSING ELEMENT.
THE SIXTH UPDATE OF THE HOUSING ELEMENT FOR INDIO IS A VERY STRONG DOCUMENT.
AND THAT REALLY GOES INTO FAR REACHING DETAIL MORE THAN WE WOULD DEFINITELY EVER WANT TO DO HERE.
BUT JUST TO GIVE A NOD TO IT SO THAT SOMEONE SAYS, OH, DID YOU ADDRESS THIS? IT'S IN THE HOUSING ELEMENT WHICH WAS UPDATED I GUESS IN '21.
THAT IS BEING UPDATED BY THAT GROUP.
THAT'S JUST MORE ON WHAT'S A SUSTAINABLE CITY.
AND I'M ACTUALLY NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE THING.
I ASSUME IF THERE'S AN INTEREST THIS CAN BE I DON'T KNOW IF SARA WANTS TO MAKE THIS AVAILABLE TO THE REST OF THE GROUP.
SO THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE ON HAND HERE ARE THE ONE THAT SEEMED TO BE MISSING WAS THE DUST AND AIR QUALITY.
AND I SAY MISSING WITH A CAUTIONARY NOTE.
BECAUSE IT'S PROBABLY SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE CITY'S PLANS.
BUT AB617 SOUTH COAST HAS AN INITIATIVE DOWN HERE AT THE MOMENT.
AND YOU KNOW, WE CAN JUST PARTNER WITH THEM.
BOTH MIGUEL AND I ARE PART OF THE TEAM SO WE DON'T REALLY NEED TO TAKE IT ON AS A NEW INITIATIVE.
IF THEY'RE ALREADY LOOKING AT DUST ISSUES, WE DON'T NEED TO TAKE IT ON AS A NEW ONE.
THE ENERGY AND CLIMATE, THAT WAS ADDRESSED.
POVERTY AND HUNGER, LIKE AN ECONOMY THAT'S BEEN ADDRESSED WHICH IS GOALS ONE, TWO, EIGHT AND THREE.
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THAT'S IN THE GENERAL PLAN 2040.AND SUSTAINABLE CITIES GOAL NUMBER 11 OF TRANSPORTATION WAS ADDRESSED ALREADY BY THE CURRENT DRAFT OF THE PLAN.
AND THEN HOUSING AS A GENERAL PLAN.
GOAL NUMBER SIX AND 12 WAS WATER SUSTAINABLE WATER.
THE ONE THAT WASN'T OH, THERE'S ONE SLIDE OVER.
THERE'S ONE THAT WASN'T ADDRESSED IN THERE IN TERMS OF HEALTH.
AND I PROBABLY SKIPPED OVER THAT.
YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME COMMENTS ON ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
OBVIOUSLY HALF OF OUR CITY, YOU KNOW, TO USE AN EXTREME EXAMPLE.
IF WE HAVE A MARKED PERCENT OF THE POPULATION ILL WITH SOMETHING, SAY COVID, THAT WAS NOT ADDRESSED IN THE PLAN AND COULD NOT HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE PLAN WAS DRAFTED BEFORE OR AFTER THIS COVID ISSUE.
AND FOR THE SCOPE OF WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US, MY SUGGESTION TO SARA IS THE MOST THAT WE WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO SAY IS THAT WE'LL, YOU KNOW, CHECK ON THAT METRIC AND SEE IF IT'S BECOMING A PROBLEM FOR SUSTAINABILITY OR IF IT'S RESOLVING ITSELF.
AND THEN ON THIS SECTION WE CAN PROBABLY SKIP OVER THESE SLIDES AND GO ALL THE WAY TO THE END.
YOU CAN FLIP THROUGH THAT DUST, WAGES, HOUSING, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, WHICH SARA JUST TALKED ABOUT AND SHE'S WORKING WITH A COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR ON THAT.
THE LOCAL REQUIREMENTS LOOKED AT SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF GOVERNMENT.
THEY HAVE A DOCUMENT CALLED A SUSTAINABLE STRATEGY DOCUMENT FOR WHICH INDIO IS PART OF THAT GROUP.
AND THEY SEEM TO GIVE OUT GRANTS AND SO ON SO WE CAN LOOK AT WHAT GRANTS THEY HAVE AVAILABLE FOR US.
AND THEY HAVE WITHIN THAT GUIDELINE THAT ADDRESSES THIS RULE CALLED SB375.
YOU KNOW, JUST VERY SOFT SUGGESTIONS TO CITIES ON WHAT THEY CAN DO.
BUT ALL THE OTHER THINGS THEY ARE ADDRESSED ALREADY.
REALLY, REALLY, REALLY GOOD JOB ON DOING THAT.
IF YOU WOULD JUST SCROLL TO THE END WITH THE FINAL LIST OF RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO THESE ARE THE SUMMARY RECOMMENDATIONS.
LIKE NUMBER ONE, I SAID, YOU KNOW, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT PARTNERING WITH THE ECV ON THEIR PROJECT, THE GENERAL PLAN.
COVID, I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS, YOU KNOW, OR STAFF HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON WHETHER WE SHOULD EVEN NOTE COVID AS A FOOTNOTE IN OUR REPORT AS SOMETHING THAT COULD AFFECT OUR CITY'S SUSTAINABILITY, HOUSING AND AFFORDABILITY.
WE TALKED ABOUT THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH.
AND THEN ON THE NEXT SLIDE, IS ONE THAT'S STILL MISSING.
THE CLEAN ENERGY THAT SARA WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT.
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA GAS, OUR GAS PROVIDER, THEY HAVE A PLAN THAT SAYS THEY'RE GOING TO BE SUSTAINABLE BY 2045.
WHICH IS BASICALLY THE SAME YEAR THAT OUR UTILITIES ARE SUPPOSED TO ALSO DECARBONIZE.
SO REALLY IT'S A RACE TO ZERO BETWEEN THE GAS COMPANY AND OUR ELECTRIC PROVIDER.
MY CONCERN, AND I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYONE RAISE IT THUS FAR, IS IF WE SWITCH EVERYTHING IN THE DESERT TO ELECTRIC AND WE GET TO 102 DEGREES OR WHATEVER TEMPERATURES WE GET TO IN SUMMER, AND EVERYTHING IS ELECTRIC, THAT MEANS WE HAVE NO POWER.
SO WE DON'T HAVE RESILIENCE AND WE DON'T HAVE DIVERSIFICATION OF OUR ENERGY SUPPLY OTHER THAN THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE SOLAR ON THEIR ROOF.
SO TO ME IT WAS A LITTLE BIT AND DO WE EVEN HAVE THE TRANSMISSION?
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I HATE TO BE, YOU KNOW, TO THROW WATER ON THE PARTY.BUT DO WE EVEN HAVE ALL THE TRANSMISSION THAT WE NEED TO SWITCH EVERY SINGLE THING WE OWN TO ELECTRIC? I JUST A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
SO THAT'S WHERE I LANDED ON, THAT AND SARA'S THOUGHT WAS LET'S LEAVE IT OPEN RATHER THAN COMMITTING OR MANDATING THAT ONE.
AND THE OTHER ONE THAT I DON'T SEE ON MY LIST, MAYBE I'M GOING TOO QUICKLY, IS ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE GIVING JUST SOME THOUGHT TO ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE AS WE ROLL OUT THIS INITIATIVE.
SO NOW YOU KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHERE I'M COMING FROM AND IT'S JUST MAINLY ADDING TO THINGS.
AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THIS YEAR AS IN 2022.
SO THAT'S MY THOUGHT IS THAT THE JOB IS WELL DONE AND IT CAN ONLY BE MADE BETTER.
SARA, IF YOU CAN SEND COPIES TO EVERYBODY SO EACH COMMISSIONER CAN DO A DEEPER DRIVE ON IT.
ANETHA, I THINK IT'S FANTASTIC.
YOU BROUGHT UP A LOT OF STUFF THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.
I THINK ONE THING THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT WHEN I FIRST GOT ON THE COMMISSION WITH REGARDS TO ENERGY IS HOW TO BECOME LESS CARBON SORRY, LESS FOSSIL FUEL DEPENDENT ON ENERGY AND THE DIFFERENT WAYS WE COULD DO THAT.
AND I KNOW WE DID HAVE SOME DISCUSSIONS LAST YEAR.
ABOUT HOW DEEP AND DETAILED WE WANT TO GO WITH THIS DOCUMENT.
SO PERHAPS THAT'S ANOTHER DISCUSSION TO HAVE INCORPORATING MORE OF YOUR ITEMS IN HERE.
AND MAYBE GO INTO SOME MORE DETAIL.
>> YEAH, I WAS REALLY INTERESTED IN ALL THE COMMENTS TOO.
THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL, ANETHA.
THE ONE THING I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WAS SO WOULD WE COMMISSIONERS MAKE CHANGES TO THE EXISTING SUSTAINABILITY PLAN BASED ON YOUR COMMENTS OR WERE YOU SUGGESTING THAT STAFF MAKE THOSE CHANGES? THAT PART I'M A LITTLE UNCLEAR ON.
>> I'M ASSUMING THAT SARA WILL MAKE THE CHANGES AS LONG AS THERE ARE NO STRENUOUS OBJECTIONS.
AND THE ONLY ONES THAT THERE WERE CHANGES ON, MOST ALL OF THEM AS YOU COULD SEE FOR THE MOST PART WERE ADDITIONS.
AND LIKE SARA WAS TALKING ABOUT, FOOTNOTING THOSE.
SOME OF IT IS JUST SHOWING THE GENERAL PLAN 2040 IS ALREADY DOING THIS.
THE SIXTH UPDATE OF THE HOUSING ELEMENT IS ALREADY DOING IT.
WE KNOW IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US.
IT'S NOT THAT WE'VE OMITTED IT, IT'S JUST IT'S BEING DONE ELSEWHERE.
THE ONLY THINGS WE REALLY DIDN'T HAVE IN IT THERE AND IT'S STUFF I GUESS IT'S KNOWN.
FOR EXAMPLE, THE OUTREACH PLAN.
WE KNOW OBVIOUSLY IT WOULDN'T BE A LIVE DOCUMENT IF WE DON'T DO OUTREACH ON IT.
SO WE SORT OF INTUITIVE KNOW THAT.
BUT IT'S NOT STATED THAT WE'RE GOING DO THIS.
AND I THINK LIKEWISE, ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE IS INTUITIVE.
BUT WE DON'T REALLY TALK ABOUT IT.
AND I THINK FOR THE PLAN, WE JUST NEED TO GIVE A NOD TO IT IF AS IT WERE.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE A FULL ROLL OUT PLAN.
LIKE THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS FOR THE CITY OF INDIO DOES NOT AT THIS TIME I DON'T THINK NEED TO COME BACK TO US WITH AN ENGAGEMENT PLAN FOR US TO WE JUST KNOW THAT WE NEED TO FIGURE IT OUT.
SO THE ONLY ONE THAT WAS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WAS IN THE PLAN WAS THAT THE PREVIOUS VERSION OF THE PLAN SAID WE WILL PROMOTE 100% ELECTRIC FOR ALL APPLIANCES.
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EVERYTHING GO ELECTRIC.AND MY CAUTIONARY NOTE ON THAT IS HOPEFULLY IT'S NOT BECAUSE I'M A PESSIMIST.
IT'S JUST BECAUSE WHEN YOU GET TO SUMMER, AND YEAH, THESE ROLLING BLACKOUTS AND THEY CAN'T KEEP UP, HOW ARE WE GOING TO HAVE EVERYTHING ON ELECTRIC? AM I BEING PESSIMISTIC?
>> NO, I MEAN, YOU'RE THINKING AHEAD.
SO HOW WOULD THE ELECTRIC UTILITY ADDRESS THAT? THEY WOULD NEED TO HAVE MORE GENERATION AND MORE SUPPLY AVAILABLE.
AND MAYBE THEY WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
ARE THOSE POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS TO THE PROBLEM IF IT ARISES?
>> MY THING IS LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, I HAVE A GAS STOVE NOW.
AND I INTENTIONALLY BOUGHT GAS BECAUSE I DON'T WANT EVERYTHING ON ELECTRIC.
SO EVEN IF THE POWER IS OUT, I WANT TO EAT.
SO HOPEFULLY MY GAS STOVE WILL STILL WORK.
BUT IF WE TELL ALL THE DEVELOPERS WHO ARE BUILDING NEW HOMES AND WE ARE BUILDING HERE.
IF WE TELL ALL OF THEM PUT IN ELECTRIC HOME THEY CANNOT PUT IN ANYMORE GAS, POOPOO ON GAS, THEN ALL THESE NEW HOMES THAT ARE COMING IN WILL NOT HAVE THE CAPABILITIES FOR THE THING.
I THINK FOR THE HOMES THAT ARE ALREADY BUILT IT DOESN'T MATTER.
THEY'RE GOING TO STAY MOST OF THE PEOPLE LIKE ME IF WE'RE GAS, WE'RE GOING TO STAY GAS.
BUT FOR THE NEW HOMES COMING IN, IF WE TELL THE DEVELOPERS, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW STRONG A MANDATE HOW MUCH WEIGHT THE PLAN BEARERS.
DOES IT BECOME A CITY ORDINANCE? THAT PART I DON'T KNOW.
YOU KNOW, SARA CAN CORRECT ME ON THAT.
BUT I THINK THAT'S THE FORCE IN EFFECT THE SUSTAINABILITY PLAN HAS.
>> MY UNDERSTANDING REGARDING TO ELECTRIC APPLIANCES THAT'S A STATE MANDATE THAT'S GONE INTO EFFECT AT ALL NEW HOMES MOVING FORWARD.
AND INSTALLING SOLAR PANELS ON ALL HOMES MOVING FORWARD IS PART OF A STATE MANDATE AS WELL.
I DON'T KNOW HOW WELL IT'S BEING IMPLEMENTED AND ACTUALLY DONE.
BUT I READ THAT'S THE NEW RULE THE STATE'S PUT IN MOVING FORWARD.
>> I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE ELECTRIC APPLIANCES.
BUT THE SOLAR MANDATE, YES, THAT'S FROM THE STATE.
BUT WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S ALREADY BEEN PASSED AS A STATE ORDINANCE, I BELIEVE THE EFFORTS ARE GOING TO REMAIN ALIVE TO TRY TO BRING THAT UP TO COMPLIANCE FOR ALL NEW DEVELOPMENTS.
SO I THINK, I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH WHAT ANETHA IS SAYING THE DANGERS OF GOING COMPLETELY ELECTRIC IN TERMS OF BLACKOUTS AND ALONG THOSE LINES.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME IF THERE'S A STATE MANDATE THAT COMES DOWN AND MAKE IT BY 2045, IT MAY BE BENEFICIAL TO GET AHEAD OF THE CURVE IN TERMS OF THE CITY HERE.
>> WELL I GUESS IF EVERYBODY IS REQUIRED TO HAVE SOLAR PANELS, ANETHA, WOULD THAT MITIGATE THE RISK OF HAVING ALL ELECTRIC UTILITIES?
ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO IN MY OPINION TO DIVERSIFY AND NOT HAVE EVERYTHING DEPENDENT ON THE TRANSMISSION SYSTEM AND THE LOAD REQUIREMENTS THAT WE SEE IN CALIFORNIA OVER THE SUMMER WILL HELP US IN TERMS OF RELIABILITY.
AND I THINK AS, YOU KNOW, ON THE STATE LEVEL WHERE IT'S AB32 SCOPING PLAN, THEY'RE LOOKING AT NET ZERO BY 2045, AND ELEK TRIFICATION AND ALL OF THAT.
EVEN SOME OF THE ELECTRIC THEY MIGHT BE POWERING CARS FROM THE SOLAR PANEL ON YOUR ROOF.
I'M NOT SURE HOW THEY'RE GOING TO DO THAT.
BUT I THINK THE WORD RELIABILITY, I THINK RELIABILITY DOES ALSO COME UP AT THE STATE LEVEL.
BUT IT IS NOT I THINK IT'S NOT OUR THE CHALLENGE IS REALLY THE GAUNTLET IS REALLY AT SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA GAS AND ELECTRIC'S DOOR.
IF THEY WANT TO REMAIN AS A VIABLE BUSINESS, THAT'S WHAT THEY SAID.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE SUPPLY NATURAL, THEY CALL IT RENEWABLE GAS AND HYDROGEN.
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AND THEY'RE GOING TO DO CARBON SEQUESTRATION.THAT'S THEIR INITIATIVES TO BE NET ZERO FOR ALL OF THEIR USE AND EVERYTHING THAT THEY PROVIDE.
SO THAT'S THEIR LOAD REALLY, TOO, THAT'S THEIR WORK EFFORT TO SORT OUT.
>> IF THEY BECOME NET ZERO BY USING CARBON SEQUESTRATION, THEN THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY PROBLEM USING NATURAL GAS WOULD THERE? ASSUMING THEY ACHIEVE THAT.
>> THE GAS THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE IS BASICALLY A BIO GAS.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE USING NATURAL GAS ANYMORE.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE USING THIS NEW BIOGAS.
THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT TERMINOLOGY FOR IT.
IT'S GENERATED FROM WASTE, BASICALLY.
SO THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE SELLING.
NOT THE GAS THAT WE'RE GETTING NOW.
HOW ABOUT CARBON SEQUESTRATION? I MEAN, IS THAT REALLY A VIABLE TECHNOLOGY WITHIN REASONABLE COST PARAMETERS?
I MEAN, I'VE SEEN PROJECTS HERE AND THERE.
BUT IN TERMS OF WIDESPREAD COMMERCIAL USE OF CARBON SEQUESTRATION, I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT COME TO FRUITION YET.
I MEAN, I THINK NONE OF US HAVE SEEN IT.
YOU CAN SEARCH ONLINE AND THERE'S A PROJECT HERE AND THERE AND THERE'S TALK OF PUTTING IT, USING WHERE THEY PUMP OUT OIL AND GAS USING THOSE SAME WELLS FOR THE SEQUESTRATION.
AND THEN THERE'S, YOU KNOW, TALK OF OTHER TECHNOLOGIES FOR SEQUESTRATION.
BUT TO GET THAT ALL IN SHAPE BY 2045, I DON'T KNOW.
>> YEAH, IT SEEMS LIKE THE BEST SOLUTION IF IT CAN BE ACHIEVED, I MEAN, BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T SEEM TO BE MOVING OFF OF FOSSIL FUELS VERY QUICKLY.
AND CARBON SEQUESTRATION WOULD BE PHENOMENAL IF IT COULD WORK.
>> I THINK WE LOST SARA SOME HOW.
SOMETHING HAPPENED WITH HER CONNECTION.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING ANETHA'S DRAFT THAT SHE SENT?
>> I GUESS A FEW COMMENTS ON MY END.
OVERALL, I THINK AS ANETHA SAID THE PLAN THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE DRAFT IS WELL DONE.
I DO AGREE WITH YOU A COUPLE OF SECTIONS, EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE BEEN IMPLIED IN THE PLAN NEEDS TO BE FLUSHED OUT EVEN MORE.
PUBLIC HEALTH ASPECT, AND ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE BOTH FOR THIS COMMITTEE AND PLAN GOING FORWARD.
AND THEN A FEW COMMENTS THAT I HAVE OVERALL FROM MY NOTES ON THE PLAN.
BUT I THINK I WANT TO WAIT FOR SARA FOR THOSE.
>> YOU KNOW, I NOTICED FOR A BRIEF MOMENT THAT THE LIGHTS WERE OUT IN HER OFFICE.
AND I'M WONDERING IF THEY HAD A POWER OUTAGE.
>> I FIGURED IT WAS ONE OF THOSE SENSORS THAT TURNED HER LIGHTS OFF.
>> I'M NOT SURE AT THIS POINT.
I COULD HEAR YOU GUYS TALK ON THE PHONE.
AND I WAS LIKE, OH MY GOSH, I CAN'T.
>> ANETHA'S COMMENTS ABOUT THE POWER GOING OUT >> YEAH, I DON'T THINK THERE WERE ANYMORE COMMENTS.
SARA, THAT'S WHERE WE STOPPED AND WERE WAITING FOR YOU.
HE WANTED TO DISCUSS SHARE HIS COMMENTS A LITTLE BIT.
DO YOU WANT ME TO BRING UP THE PLAN?
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I THINK I'LL BE FAIRLY BRIEF.SO OVERALL AS I HAD MENTIONED JUST NOW, I THINK THE PLAN WAS VERY WELL DONE.
IT WAS HARD TO THINK ABOUT AREAS THAT ARE STILL AVAILABLE TO COMMENT ON, IMPROVE ON AND WHAT NOT.
BUT A COUPLE OF NOTES THAT I DID HAVE THAT I'VE ALREADY SEEN BE REFLECTED IS POSSIBLE PROJECTS FOR MORE SUN SHADE STRUCTURES THAT ENCOMPASS SOLAR.
THE TEEN CENTER ALREADY HAS ONE.
INDIO HIGH SCHOOL ACROSS FROM THERE, THE STUDENT PARKING LOT, I'M NOT SURE THE STAFF PARKING LOT HAVE THOSE AVAILABLE.
POSSIBLY CREATE PROJECTS THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR IMPLEMENTATION OF SOLAR ROOFTOP SHADE STRUCTURES.
I THINK THEY'RE IN GENERAL IN OTHER AREAS AS DEVELOPMENT HAPPENS.
I THINK THE OTHER MAIN THING I HAVE FOR CLEAN ENERGY IS TRYING TO CREATE POLICIES AS THEY HAPPEN.
SARA, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE CITY ALREADY PUTTING IN PLACE SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE CARPORTS, THE ELECTRIC CARPORTS AT THE FACILITIES OR SOMEWHERE ALONG THOSE LINES.
>> THE 2019 BUILDING CODES ARE WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO, WHICH MANDATED THAT WHEN YOU PUT IN A NEW BUILDING, YOU HAVE TO PUT THE PLUMBING TO THE EV STATION IN.
YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO PUT THE STATION IN, BUT YOU AT LEAST HAVE TO MAKE SURE THE LINES ARE THERE BECAUSE THAT'S THE MOST EXPENSIVE PART OF ADDING ONE LATER.
>> I THINK TO A CERTAIN DEGREE AND MAY BE WARRANTED TO CONSIDER IF WE WANT TO GO THAT STEP FURTHER AND SAY FOR NEW DEVELOPMENTS, WHETHER IT BE A GROCERY STORE PARKING LOTS, GAS STATION PARTICULARLY, THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES, RESTAURANTS, THAT THEY MAY WANT TO INCLUDE A COUPLE OF THOSE ELECTRIC CARPORTS.
AS WE ALL KNOW CALIFORNIA IS GOING FULLY ELECTRIC WITH VEHICLES FAIRLY SOON.
SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE CITY HAS THE GROWING INFRASTRUCTURE TO FILL THAT NEED.
>> CAN I INTERRUPT AND ASK A QUESTION?
>> THAT'S A GOOD POINT, MIGUEL, ABOUT COMMERCIAL HAVING, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE TO PUT CHARGERS.
SARA, DOES THE CITY CURRENTLY HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT REQUIRES DEVELOPERS TO INSTALL CHARGING STATIONS?
WHEN I WAS TALKING TO THE PLANNING DIRECTOR, HE SAID THAT HE DIDN'T KNOW OF ANY OFFHAND.
HE SAID THERE MAY VERY WELL BE SOME IN THE BAY AREA, PLACES LIKE THAT THAT HAVE TAKEN THAT STEP.
I WOULD LIKE TO ACTUALLY PUSH THIS CONVERSATION OFF TO A LITTLE LATER IN THE AGENDA UNTIL AFTER WE DO OUR BUDGETS BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY HAVE A BUDGET FOR EV CHARGING STATIONS.
ONCE WE UNDERSTAND THAT BUDGET, YOU MIGHT WANT TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION WITH THE BUDGET ACTUALLY COME UP WITH SOME CONCRETE IDEAS.
I'LL QUICKLY GO THROUGH SOME OF THE OTHER COMMENTS I HAD IF THAT'S OKAY.
FOR ZERO WASTE, I THINK THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN ALLUDED TO, BUT CREATE A PERMANENT DISPOSAL SITE OR PERMANENT LOCATION WHERE WASTE CAN BE DROPPED OFF: TIRES, BATTERIES, THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES.
IT COULD BE SEVERAL LOCATIONS.
I KNOW COACHELLA VALLEY MAY ALREADY BE CLEANING UP TIRES BECAUSE THEY'RE CLEANING BARREN LOTS WHERE TIRES ARE DUMPED.
RIVERSIDE HAZARDOUS WASTE TO TRY TO CREATE A PERMANENT FACILITY WHERE RESIDENTS CAN DROP OFF THEIR RECYCLABLES.
THE OTHER KEY THINGS THAT I WANTED TO DISCUSS I THINK MAY ACTUALLY BE AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS PLAN.
SARA, THIS WAS GOING TO BE SOMETHING I REQUESTED.
I COULDN'T SEEM TO FIND A COPY OF THE SEWAGE AND STREET MASTER PLAN ANYWHERE.
AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS DOCUMENT.
>> THERE YOU GO, THE COMPLETE STREETS AND DRAINAGE MASTER PLAN.
I WAS TRYING TO FIND A COPY OF THAT TO GO THROUGH THIS.
THE OTHERS WOULD BE INCORPORATED IN THERE.
DEAL WITH FLOODING ON THE STREETS.
THERE ARE SOME STREETS IN THE CITY THAT DO FLOOD WITH RAIN.
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MAKING SURE IT GOES TO A STORM WATER RUNOFF.THE OTHER THING IS TO TRY TO PLAN OUR STREETS TO BE BETTER AT REDUCING GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS.
GREAT WAY WE CAN DO THAT IS CONSIDER ROUNDABOUTS AND PLACES IN THE CITY THAT CAN REDUCE TRAFFIC CONGESTION AS WELL AS GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS.
I WAS HOPING I COULD FIND A COPY OF THAT SOMEWHERE.
>> YEAH, I CAN DEFINITELY SEND THAT OUT.
I'LL PUT THAT IN MY NOTES TO DO.
>> I THINK IT'S ON THE WEBSITE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC AT THIS TIME.
>> ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MIGUEL?
>> ROUNDABOUTS ARE SOMETHING THAT I UNDERSTAND ARE GOING TO BECOME MORE AND MORE COMMON.
ARE THOSE PROVIDED FOR, SARA, IN ANY OF THE PLANNING POLICIES THAT THE CITY HAS?
BUT IT MAY MAYBE IN THE GENERAL PLAN THAT THAT MAY BE IN THERE.
LIKE FOR ROUNDABOUTS OR JUST IN GENERAL MORE OF WHAT MIGUEL WAS SAYING ABOUT HAVING TRAFFIC AND STREETS BE MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY AND GREENHOUSE OR LOWERING GREENHOUSE GAS IN GENERAL?
>> WELL YEAH, I MEAN SYNCHRONIZING THE LIGHT SEEMS LIKE A GOOD IDEA.
IF YOU GO THROUGH THE CITY, I WOULDN'T SAY INDIO SO MUCH.
BUT OTHER CITIES IN THE VALLEY, YOU GO ALONG 11, IT SEEMS TO BE NECESSARY.
I THINK THEY USE IT AS A TRAFFIC CONTROL MECHANISM.
BUT MORE IMPORTANT IS YOU KNOW, REDUCING GREENHOUSE GASES.
AND IF THEY WERE ABLE TO BETTER TIME THOSE THEN, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WOULD USE LESS FUEL.
AND I THINK TRAFFIC SYNCZATION IS ALREADY INCLUDED IN THIS PLAN.
SOME THINGS I HAVE BEEN SEEING, IN LOS ANGELES I'VE SEEN NO LEFT HAND TURNS FOR UNPROTECTED LEFT HAND TURNS BETWEEN CERTAIN HOURS WHEN THERE'S MORE TRAFFIC TO REDUCE IDLING.
IMPLEMENT AND VERY TARGET LOCATIONS WHERE IT MAKES SENSE WHERE CARS TYPICALLY IDLE OR PILE UP.
ABOVE ALL ELSE, SOME OF THE OTHER COMMENTS I HAD IS JUST TRYING TO SEE WHAT OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THERE ARE FOR ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION, BIKES, ELECTRIC BIKES.
SEE HOW WE CAN TEAM WITH FOR IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CV LINK.
IT MAY HELP IN TRYING TO REDUCE HOW MUCH WE GO ON VEHICLE MILES.
>> I THINK GETTING PEOPLE OUT OF CARS IS A MUCH BETTER IDEA OR MUCH MORE SUSTAINABLE IDEA LONG TERM.
WE'VE GOT SUCH GREAT WEATHER HERE, PEOPLE COULD RIDE A BIKE, YOU KNOW, 350 DAYS OUT OF THE YEAR.
IF WE INCREASE OUR CV LINK AND BIKE LANES AND WIDEN OUR SIDEWALKS FOR BIKES.
THAT WILL HOPEFULLY GET PEOPLE OUT OF CARS.
>> I DON'T THINK THOSE ARE NECESSARILY EXCLUSIVE EITHER.
A LOT OF THE STATE FUNDING HOW YOU CAN IMPROVE.
THERE'S FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR THOSE TYPE OF PROJECTS THAT VERY CLOSELY TIE IN EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SPEAKING OF.
INCREASING BIKE LANES, AND JUST OVERALL CITY BEAUTIFICATION THAT I THINK WE'D BE VERY COMPETITIVE FOR IF WE START PLANNING FOR IN THAT METHOD.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR MIGUEL? SUGGESTIONS.
SO SARA, IF YOU CAN SEND MIGUEL'S SUGGESTIONS AS WELL TO, IF IT'S IN A FORMAT YOU CAN SEND TO US, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
LET'S IMPLEMENT IDEAS THAT HAVE COME UP HERE.
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WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER SIX, BUDGETS.[6. Budgets]
SARA, THE FLOOR IS YOURS.SARA, DO YOU WANT TO TAKE OVER THE BUDGET?
I JUST NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET THROUGH THIS.
I THINK THAT'S THE BEST I CAN DO RIGHT NOW.
SO THE FIRST THING WE HAVE IS THE WASTE AVERSION BUDGETS.
SO I THINK BACK IN THE '80S WHEN AB 939 WAS PASSED, IT WAS TWO DIVERT WASTE FROM LANDFILLS.
AND WITH THAT LEGISLATION, CITIES WERE ALLOWED TO CHARGE A FEE WITHIN THE RATES THAT PEOPLE PAID FOR THEIR TRASH PICKUP SERVICE.
AND THAT FUNDING HAD TO BE USED OR THE CITY COULD USE THAT TO CREATE WASTE DIVERSION PROGRAMS. THE CITY TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THAT.
IT'S SEPARATE FROM THE GENERAL FUND.
IT CAN'T BE USED WITH ANYTHING EXCEPT FOR DIVERSION.
RESIDENTS PAY 23 CENTS A MONTH AS PART OF THEIR WASTE SERVICE.
AND IT BRINGS IN A QUITE A BIT OF MONEY.
AND WE'VE NOT SPENT EVERYTHING THAT COMES IN NOW FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS, NOT ALL OF IT.
SO WITH WASTE DIVERSION, THAT'S OUR BIGGEST ACCOUNT FOR SUSTAINABILITY.
AND PROBABLY ANNUALLY WE COULD SPEND UPWARDS AROUND $50,000 TO $100,000 ON WASTE AVERSION PROGRAMS. AND IT INCLUDES SB1383 AND HELPING TO GET THAT MESSAGE OUT AND THE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE SO THAT WE'RE ABLE TO BE COMPLIANT WITH THAT LEGISLATION.
WE HAVE THAT FOR WASTE DIVERSION, ZERO WASTE, IT ALSO INCLUDES A SOURCE REDUCTION.
STORM WATER IS OUR ONLY FUNDING THAT COMES FROM THE GENERAL FUND.
SO THAT, I DON'T WANT TO SAY TAKES AWAY, BUT IT COMES FROM LITERALLY THE GENERAL FUND WHICH HAS TO BE SPREAD OUT THROUGHOUT ALL THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS IN THE CITY.
WE HAVE TO PAY BASICALLY OUR LEGISLATORS.
SO THE STATE WATER BOARDS GET A WE PAY THEM EACH YEAR FROM THIS FUND.
THEY ARE THE REGULATORS AND THEY OVERSEE OUR PROGRAMS. THEN WE WORK WITH A POOL OF OTHER CITIES.
RIVERSIDE COUNTY FLOOD CONTROL DISTRICT TO ADMINISTER OUR PERMIT.
IT'S STILL QUITE A BIT OF MONEY BUT IT'S STILL CHEAPER THAN IF WE DID A LOT OF PROGRAMS ON OUR OWN.
ALSO FOR STORM WATER, THE YEARLY BUDGET OF $105,000 IS GOING TO HAVE TO GO UP SOON BECAUSE THE STATE PASSED WHAT ARE CALLED THE TRASH AMENDMENTS.
WHICH MEANS FOR ALL OF OUR OUTFALLS, ANYWHERE RAIN CAN GET INTO, WILL FLOW FROM THE STREETS TO THE STORM CHANNEL, THERE HAS TO BE FULL CATCHER TRASH DEVICE THAT WILL CAPTURE TRASH DOWN TO 5 MILLIMETERS INSTALLED INTO EVERY ONE OF THOSE DRAINS.
WE HAVE A LITTLE OVER 230 OF THEM.
WE HAVE UNTIL 2030 TO GET THAT DONE SO WE'LL SPREAD THE COST OUT.
BUT THAT NUMBER WILL DEFINITELY GO UP.
AND THAT IS THE ONE ACCOUNT THAT COMES FROM THE GENERAL FUND.
WE GET CANS AND BOTTLES EACH YEAR FROM CAVALRY CYCLE.
AS LONG AS WE SPEND THE MONEY APPROPRIATELY, WE GET THE MONEY NEXT YEAR.
IT COMES FROM IF YOU HAD A BOTTLE OR A SODA, IT HAS A CRV AND YOU PUT IT IN YOUR HOME CONTAINER INSTEAD OF SENDING IT BACK.
THEN THE STATE SAVES THAT 5 CENTS.
THEY PULL THAT MONEY AND ALLOW THE CITIES A PORTION OF IT TO DO THINGS LIKE PURCHASE RECYCLING RECEPTACLES.
WATER BOTTLE FILLERS FOR SOURCE CONTROL.
WE'VE USED THIS MONEY TO BUY WASTE RECYCLING CONTAINERS EITHER FOR OUR FACILITIES OR THE SCHOOLS AND TO GET BOTTLE FILLER WATER FOUNTAINS OUT INTO OUR
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PARKS.THE OIL AND FILTER COLLECTION EVENTS.
THAT'S THE SAME TYPE OF THING.
WE USE THAT TO PAY FOR THE SUSTAINABILITY COLLECTION EVENTS WHEN WE COLLECT OIL AND TIRES AND ALL OF THAT.
THAT COVERS BOTH THE OIL AND FILTER PART OF IT.
AND THEN THE MOBILE SOURCE AIR POLLUTION.
THIS IS FOR THE ELECTRIC VEHICLES, ALTERNATIVE FUEL VEHICLES, STREET SWEEPING, E ELECTRIC VEHICLE INFRASTRUCTURE.
THE POLLUTION IS COMING FROM ALL OF THESE VEHICLES.
AND A PORTION OF ALL OF THAT THAT GETS COLLECTED BY HUMD IS SENT BACK TO THE CITIES.
AGAIN, THIS IS VERY SPECIFIC TO ONLY BE USED FOR THESE SPECIFIC PROGRAMS. ELECTRIC VEHICLES AND REDUCING ULTIMATELY MOBILE SOURCE POLLUTION.
SO IT CAN'T BE USED FOR ANYTHING ELSE.
AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ABOUT $100,000 IN THAT ACCOUNT FOR THESE INITIATIVE.
BUT I WILL SAY THAT'S BEEN GROWING FOR A WHILE.
FOR INDIO, IT'S BASED ON POPULATION.
WE GET ABOUT 100,000 A YEAR FOR THESE PROGRAMS. BUT WE SPEND I THINK 75% NOW GOES TO A REGIONAL STREET SWEEPING PROGRAM.
AGAIN, IT SAVES US A LOT MORE MONEY THAN IF WE DID IT ON OUR OWN.
SO WE HAVE BEEN AGREEMENT WITH ALL THE OTHER CITIES THAT WE SEND A BULK OF THIS MONEY TO THAT PROGRAM.
BUT IT LEAVES ABOUT $20,000 EACH YEAR THAT BUILDS AND BUILDS.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS NUMBER LIKE IN SOME OF THE OTHER ONES, EACH YEAR WE COULD PROBABLY GO BACK TO HAVING AN AMOUNT CLOSE TO THAT.
BUT WITH THE MOBILE SOURCE AIR POLLUTION FUNDS, ONCE THEY'RE GONE, IT WILL TAKE SOME TIME, A COUPLE YEARS TO REALLY BUILD IT UP TO A POINT WHERE WE HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT AGAIN.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER.
>> DO WE HAVE A COST ESTIMATE AND I'M GUESSING THIS IS PROBABLY A CASE BY CASE.
I'M SORRY, ANETHA, I DIDN'T SEE THAT YOUR HAND POPPED UP THERE.
BUT DO WE HAVE A COST ESTIMATE FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE ALREADY BEING IN PLACE OR AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGER BUT ACTUALLY PUTTING UP THE CHARGER ITSELF, HOW MUCH WOULD THAT BE?
>> I KNOW THAT THE COST OF THE CHARGERS I WANT TO SAY THEY'RE AROUND $5,000.
BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT AN ELECTRICIAN OR WHOEVER IT WOULD TAKE TO ACTUALLY HOOK IT UP AND MAKE IT WORK WOULD COST.
BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT INCENTIVES, ABOUT EV CHARGERS, THEN YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO LOOK INTO, ABSOLUTELY, WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN FIGURE THAT OUT AND COME UP WITH SOMETHING CONCRETE SO WE CAN REALLY HAVE A PLAN NOT JUST AN EV CHARGING INCENTIVES, BUT THIS CHARGING INCENTIVE.
I'LL GET SOME INFORMATION ON THAT.
>> ANETHA, YOU HAVE A QUESTION?
SO MY COMMENT WAS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF GOING BACK TO THE PLAN ITSELF AND THE COMMENT THAT I HAD REGARDING GRANTS.
YOU KNOW, I'M NOT IN THE GRANT WORLD.
I DON'T WORK WITH GRANTS A LOT.
AND IT SEEMS TO ME THAT SO MY COMMENT IS JUST BASED ON LACK OF FAMILIARITY BECAUSE IT SEEMS AS THOUGH WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO SUPPLEMENT THIS WHAT WE SHOULD MAKE USE OF TO SUPPLEMENT THIS BUDGET IS GRANTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE BUT TO ME BECAUSE I'M NOT IN THE GRANT WORLD, THESE GRANTS JUST SEEM TO POP UP.
I THINK LIKE THE PRESENTATION THAT WE HAD RECENTLY ON THE GRANT FOR THE ROOF, YOU REALLY HAVE TO HAVE A GOOD ENOUGH OF A HEADWAY OR NOTICE ON THESE GRANT APPLICATIONS TO WORK ON THEM SO IT SEEMS TO ME, AND HELP ME OUT HERE, THAT WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT GRANTS ARE AVAILABLE OR COMING UP OR ANTICIPATED AND HAVE A SCHEDULE FOR APPLYING FOR THOSE FAR IN ADVANCE.
AM I ON THE WRONG PATH HERE OR NO?
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A LOT OF TIMES WE JUST DON'T KNOW ABOUT THEM UNTIL IT'S THE NINTH HOUR AND WE TRY>> IT'S REALLY HELPFUL TO TRY TO STAY AHEAD OF IT.
THE CITY DOES HAVE A GRANT THEY KIND OF TRACK GRANTS FOR US.
BUT I THINK WITH THE LAST ONE, AS SOON AS IT WAS RELEASED, THE TURNAROUND TIME WAS VERY QUICK.
IF I HEAR OF ANYTHING COMING UP, I WILL DEFINITELY SEND IT OUT TO YOU GUYS.
WE DO PAY THEM TO KIND OF KEEP AN EYE ON WHAT'S COMING.
>> I GUESS MY COMMENT IS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE PROBABLY THAT DEPARTMENT IS PROBABLY FOCUSING.
THEY HAVE EYES ON A LOT OF THINGS.
WOULD IT, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE UP TO THEM TO SAY YES OR NO.
BUT SHOULD WE REQUEST THAT THEY PREPARE FOR US IF THEY KNOW A LIST OR A SCHEDULE OF GRANTS THAT ARE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, SPEND HOWEVER MANY DAYS OR WHATEVER IS REQUIRED, TWO, THREE DAYS, AND DO A SEARCH TO SEE WHAT GRANTS ARE GOING TO BE COMING UP AND WHEN SO WE HAVE ENOUGH HEADWAY TO APPLY FOR THAT.
LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF GOVERNMENTS ON THEIR SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITIES PROGRAM.
THEY APPARENTLY ISSUE GRANTS EVERY YEAR FOR THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS.
AND I SAW THAT I THINK IT WAS IN I WANT TO SAY 2018 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THE CITY OF INDIO GOT A GRANT FROM THEM FOR BIKE PATHS OR SOMETHING.
I SAW A GRANT THAT WAS GIVEN TO CITY OF INDIO.
BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO BE ISSUED THIS YEAR.
SO CAN SOMEONE DO THAT RESEARCH FOR US OR SHOULD WE BE DOING IT OURSELVES?
WHICH IS >> HONESTLY, I THINK PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH.
IF YOU HEAR OF SOMETHING OR IF YOU KNOW OF SOMETHING, IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL TO BRING IT CERTAINLY TO MY ATTENTION, OR TO THE GROUP'S, OR I CAN SEND IT OUT TO THE GROUP.
AND ALSO, CERTAINLY, WE DO RELY ON B AND E AS WELL.
ONCE THEY SEND OUT THEIR INFORMATION.
I HAVEN'T SEEN ONE FOR A WHILE.
BUT USUALLY THIS IS WHAT'S UP AND COMING IN THE GRANT WORLD KIND OF BULLETIN.
I WILL SEND THOSE B AND E THINGS OUT TO YOU AS WELL.
>> ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE BUDGET? ANY COMMENTS? IF NOT, WE MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.
[7.1 Consider Incentives for EV Charger Installations]
SO I WANTED TO CHANGE THE AGENDA AROUND SO THAT WE ACTUALLY START LISTING THOSE WORK PLAN ITEMS INSTEAD OF JUST THE GENERAL SUSTAINABILITY PLAN GOALS.
AND THAT WAY WE CAN KIND OF KEEP TRACK OR REALLY KIND OF FOCUS ON WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET DONE THIS YEAR.
THE FIRST THING THAT IS ACTUALLY IN OUR 2022 BOX OR ONE OF THE THINGS IN OUR SUSTAINABILITY PLAN, THE WORK PLAN FOR 2022 IS TO CONSIDER INITIATIVES FOR EV CHARGING STRUCTURES.
SO I DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT.
I CAN CERTAINLY BRING BACK THE IDEA OF A COST ONCE THEY'RE PLUMBED.
MAYBE EVEN THE ACTUAL 2019 BUILDING CODE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS BUILT AFTER THAT.
I CAN FIND OUT AND THAT WOULD GIVE US SOME AREAS, AN IDEA OF WHERE THAT PLUMBING DOES EXIST NOW BECAUSE OF THE CODE.
INFORMATION I THINK WILL BE HELPFUL.
OTHER THAN THAT, IT'S KIND OF UP TO YOU GUYS WHAT OTHER IDEAS YOU MIGHT HAVE TO MAKE THESE INCENTIVES TO GET THESE CHARGERS OUT IN INDIO.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION TO THE GROUP REGARDING EV CHARGERS.
I'VE ONLY BEEN IN TUSTIN ONCE AND IT GOT CHARGED UP BY THAT MCDONALD'S.
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WILL EV CHARGING STATIONS BE KIND OF LIKE GAS STATIONS IN THE FUTURE.THERE'S ONE BY THE ALDI IN PALM DESERT NEAR THE TARGET THERE.
IS IT SOMETHING WHERE A COMPANY IS GOING TO COME IN AND CREATE A BUSINESS AROUND THIS AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, DO WE AS A CITY WANT TO INCENTIVIZE THAT POSSIBILITY SO THAT BECAUSE I THINK PART OF THE ISSUE WITH CHARGING STATIONS SEEMS TO ME IS LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION.
AND YOU KNOW, IF NO ONE KNOWS IT'S THERE, WE COULD PUT THEM BEHIND EVERY RESTAURANT AND BUSINESS AND GOVERNMENT BUILDING IN THE COUNTY.
IF NO ONE KNOWS THEY'RE THERE, NO ONE IS GOING TO USE THEM.
WHAT'S THE SHORT TERM AND LONG TERM GOAL OF THIS IS MY QUESTION OF THE GROUP.
>> YOU KNOW, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN NEGOTIATING A LOT OF LEASES FOR THESE CHARGING STATIONS.
I DOPT KNOW THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION BUT I CAN COMMENT ON WHAT I'VE SEEN.
I HAVE A LOT OF CLIENTS WITH COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE, SOME CITIES AND OTHER GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES, AND YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, TESLA IS LEASING SPACE IN COMMERCIAL PARKING LOTS FOR THIS PURPOSE.
AND THEY'RE TRYING TO DO IT AT LEAST IN THE INSTANCE THAT I'M INVOLVED IN, IN A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE ARE SPENDING TIME INSIDE THEIR COMMERCIAL FACILITY.
AND I'VE ALSO SEEN LEASES OR OTHER PROGRAMS FOR CHARGING STATIONS THAT ARE IN PUBLIC PLACES, YOU KNOW, A LIMITED NUMBER OF MAYBE FOUR SPACES.
YOU KNOW, I THINK A LOT OF THOSE WERE DONE THROUGH THE VW SETTLEMENT.
YOU KNOW, VW HAD DIESELGATE, AND THEY HAD TO PAY SOMETHING LIKE A BILLION DOLLARS IN SETTLEMENT FUNDS WHICH ARE BEING USED FOR AMONG OTHER THINGS THESE ELECTRIC CHARGING STATIONS.
THAT'S WHAT I'VE SEEN IS LEASES BETWEEN THE COMPANIES AND EXISTING USES WHERE THEY CAN BE PLACED.
I THINK IN LOCATIONS WHERE PEOPLE ARE LIKELY TO SPEND A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME BECAUSE OF THE RECHARGING TIME THAT'S REQUIRED BY AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE, WHICH HOPEFULLY WILL BE GOING DOWN.
I'VE ALSO SEEN CLIENTS WHO OWN GAS STATIONS BEING APPROACHED WITH THE SAME SORT OF LEASES.
AND I'VE ACTUALLY SEEN SOME OF THESE IN GAS STATIONS.
SO I MEAN, I THINK THEY ARE GOING TO FOLLOW A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT MODEL JUST BASED ON WHAT I'VE SEEN.
>> I THINK I TEND TO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER PATTERSON IN THAT REGARD.
FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, IT MAY BE 20 TO 40 MINUTES TO GET A FULL CHARGE NOW IN THE VEHICLES.
SO YOU'LL WANT TO HAVE THEM WHERE PEOPLE ARE SPENDING SOME TIME, GETTING A MEAL, SHOPPING, ALONG THOSE LINES.
TO THAT POINT, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL SPEED UP IN THE FUTURE.
ONE THING WE ALSO WANT TO KEEP IN MIND IS AS WE LOOK AT HOUSING, INDIVIDUALS MAY NOT LIVE IN SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
IN APARTMENTS OR WHAT HAVE YOU, IS THINKING ABOUT HOW WE CAN GET SOME OF THIS INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE IN THOSE PLACES AS WELL SO THAT OPTION OF ALTERNATIVE FUEL VEHICLE MAY BE MORE APPEALING OR POSSIBLE FOR THEM.
AS FAR AS THE GRANT GOES OR THE MONEY WE HAVE AVAILABLE, I'M WONDERING WOULD THERE BE ANY WAY BECAUSE $100,000 DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT WILL GO A LONG WAY IN TERMS OF CREATING A TON OF INFRASTRUCTURE.
OBVIOUSLY IT WILL HELP OUT HOWEVER MANY WE CAN GET FUNDED.
BUT WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE DO SOMETHING LIKE A REVOLVING FUND OR A REVOLVING LOAN OPPORTUNITY FOR DEVELOPERS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS MONEY, OR RESIDENTS TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS MONEY AND THEY REPAY IT TO THE CITY.
I'M NOT SURE HOW FAR FETCHED THAT WOULD BE TO MAKE SOMETHING LIKE THAT POSSIBLE WITH THESE FUNDS.
>> I DON'T KNOW BUT I CAN CERTAINLY ASK.
THAT'S SOMETHING I CAN BRING UP.
WE'LL HAVE A CONVERSATION HERE AND SEE IF WE CAN ADD IT TO THE PLAN THAT'S
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REALISTIC.>> YEAH, ON THAT POINT I KNOW OF A PROJECT WHERE A COUPLE PROJECTS WHERE THE ELECTRIC CHARGING WAS REQUIRED, YOU KNOW, AS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL FOR THE PROJECT.
IN ONE OF THOSE CASES IT WAS OSHPD THAT IMPOSED THE REQUIREMENT.
THEY'RE THE PERMITTING AGENCY FOR HOSPITALS.
THEY'RE NOTORIOUSLY DEMANDING.
AND SO I'VE SEEN OSHPD REQUIRE THEM.
AND THEN I'VE HEARD OF I DON'T HAVE ANY DIRECT KNOWLEDGE, BUT I'VE HEARD OF CITIES PLACING A CONDITION OF APPROVAL ON A PROJECT THAT THERE BE, YOU KNOW, ELECTRIC CHARGING STATIONS.
SOUNDS LIKE WE DON'T HAVE ANY KIND OF AN ORDINANCE OR A POLICY THAT REQUIRES THAT IN THE CITY.
AND OBVIOUSLY THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD HAVE TO ADOPT A REQUIREMENT LIKE THAT.
I DON'T THINK WE, THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION, HAS THE AUTHORITY.
THAT WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE REQUIREMENT FOR THE CITY TO IMPOSE WE COULD CERTAINLY PRESENT SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
>> ANYONE'S THOUGHTS ON COMMISSIONER PATTERSON'S IDEA?
>> I THINK I'M STILL SEEKING FOR, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERING THIS AND TURNING IT OVER IN MY MIND IS REALLY WHAT I AGREE WITH WHAT MIGUEL IS SAYING, WHICH IS THAT THE $100,000 IS REALLY MORE GOING TO SERVE AS THE ADMINISTRATIVE JUICE TO GET THIS ROLLING AND NOT SO MUCH THE MONEY TO BREAK THE CONCRETE AND PAY FOR THE CHARGING STATION ITSELF, OR THE STATIONS THEMSELVES.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THEY COST.
BUT IT JUST SEEMS EVERYTHING COSTS WAY MORE THAN YOU WOULD LIKE IT TO.
OR I DON'T KNOW, MAKE AN APP OR SOMETHING.
ARE WE SARA CAN EXPAND ON THAT.
IS THAT HOW WE WOULD SPEND THAT WHERE SHE WOULD SEE US THINK WE COULD SPEND THAT $100,000.
BUT IT SEEMS TO BE YEAH, I THINK ALL THE QUESTIONS ARE VALID, AND IT SEEMS AS THOUGH WE WOULD JUST WANT TO PUT OUR THOUGHTS TOGETHER.
I AGREE THAT THE RULE OF THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION WOULD BE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
SO I THINK WE WOULD JUST NEED TO PUT TOGETHER OUR THOUGHTS HOW TO PROMOTE THAT.
AND I'M THINKING PARTICULARLY OF LINKAGES TO ANY MANDATES THAT ARE COMING DOWN STATEWIDE OR ANY FUNDING.
BECAUSE UW GOT SUED BUT I BELIEVE THERE ARE OTHER LAWSUITS.
BUT I BELIEVE THERE ARE SOME OTHER MANUFACTURERS.
BUT THERE MIGHT BE ADDITIONAL FUNDING COMING DOWN FOR THESE CHARGING STATIONS.
AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW WE GET IN QUEUE FOR THAT MONEY.
>> I THINK THE CITY GOT SOME OF THAT VW MONEY, DIDN'T THEY, SARA? OR AM I WRONG ABOUT THAT?
WHAT THEY DID WAS THEY BECAME ELECTRIFY AMERICA, AND THEY PUT UP FAST CHARGERS UP NEAR THE WALMART ON I 10.
THEY'RE THE CHARGERS THAT CAN CHARGE THE CAR IN 10 MINUTES OR LESS.
BUT THERE ARE NO CARS ON THE ROAD THAT CAN ACTUALLY ACCEPT THE CHARGE THAT FAST.
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SO THEY FEEL LIKE THEY WILL BE BUILT.
THE CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE, ELECTRIFY AMERICA HAS DECIDED THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO PUT IN BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THEY THINK IT'S GOING TO GO.
THE OTHER CHARGERS ARE THE LEVEL 2 CHARGERS LIKE AT CITY HALL.
WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING N ELECTRIC CAR, IT'S NOT LIKE WITH GAS, YOU WAIT UNTIL YOUR CAR GETS LOW.
IF YOU HAVE AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE, YOU CHARGE WHERE YOU ARE.
THE PEOPLE WHO ARE DRIVING AROUND AND NOT GOING ON LONG TRIPS ON THE FREEWAY CAN KEEP HERE CARS TOPPED OFF NO MATTER WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
THAT'S WHAT THE LEVEL 2 CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE IS MORE ABOUT HAVING THAT INFRASTRUCTURE READY.
I JUST DID A GOOGLE SEARCH HERE ON CITY REQUIREMENTS TO INSTALL ELECTRIC CHARGING STATIONS.
ALL THE RESULTS THAT I WAS ABLE TO LOOK AT IN THE BRIEF TIME I HAD, TALK ABOUT THE REQUIREMENTS IF YOU WANT TO BUILD AN ELECTRIC CHARGING STATION, YOU HAVE TO GET A BUILDING PERMIT AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
BUT I DON'T SEE ANYTHING HERE THAT WOULD INDICATE THAT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ARE ACTUALLY IMPOSING A REQUIREMENT OF ELECTRIC CHARGING STATIONS.
I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, I'LL LOOK INTO IF ONE OF THE COMMERCIAL AREAS, WHAT WOULD THE CITY NEED TO DO.
A LOT OF TIMES MAYBE WE CAN WORK STARTING FROM THERE.
LIKE WITH SOLAR, THEY MADE A RECOMMENDATION THAT CITIES HAD TO BE ABLE TO EXPEDITE THOSE PERMITS.
LET'S FIND OUT WHERE WE ARE AS FAR AS THIS IS WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW KIND OF A BASELINE.
I'LL FIND OUT KIND OF THE COST TO PUT THESE, HAVE THESE ADDED ONCE THE PLUMBING IS IN THERE.
WHERE THE PLUMBING IS SOMEWHERE AROUND THE CITY, AND WHAT KIND OF PERMITS WOULD THE CITY NEED TO GET.
>> TO THAT POINT, I THINK COMMISSIONER PATTERSON'S SUGGESTION I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WARRANTED AND SOMETHING WE WOULD DEFINITELY WANT TO LOOK AT IN TERMS OF PUTTING IN FRONT OF COUNCIL.
BUT I THINK THERE'S STILL SOME INFORMATION WE WANT TO DOLE OUT AND EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT TO PUT IN FRONT OF THEM.
I THINK THAT'S A DIRECTION WE DEFINITELY WANT TO BE WORKING TOWARDS.
>> SO SHOULD THE TAKEAWAY FROM THIS BE THAT WE COME TO THE NEXT MEETING WITH A LIST OF RECOMMENDATIONS? BECAUSE I ACTUALLY WHEN IT SAID THE LINE ITEM ON THE AGENDA, WELL I DON'T THINK WELL I DEFINITELY HAVEN'T RESEARCHED IT MYSELF.
I HAVE NOT RESEARCHED IT SUFFICIENTLY BUT I CAN DO SO AND SEE WHAT I CAN COME UP WITH.
IN TERMS OF OUR MILESTONE ON THIS, WHAT IS OUR NEXT MILESTONE? HOW DO YOU PERCEIVE US PROCEEDING? THAT WAS DIFFICULT TO SAY, BY THE WAY.
>> I WOULD SAY THAT FIRST WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE ASKING.
WHAT IS THE COST TO ACTUALLY DO THIS.
WHAT KIND OF PERMITS DO YOU NEED.
WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ASKING PEOPLE TO DO.
WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FROM ALL OF YOU IS WHAT IS GOING ON.
LET'S DO THAT RESEARCH IN OTHER CITIES.
ARE THERE OTHER CITIES THAT ARE EITHER REQUIRING THEM OR TRYING TO GIVE SOME KIND OF INCENTIVE TO INCREASE THIS.
>> SARA, IF I MIGHT ADD, ANOTHER THING TO ASK IS WHAT DOES AN EV CHARGER INFRASTRUCTURE WITHIN A CITY LOOK LIKE.
YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF YOU KNOW, HOW MANY A CITY OUR SIZE, HOW MANY EV CHARGING STATIONS DO WE NEED IN A CITY OUR SIZE AND HOW SPACED OUT WOULD THEY NEED TO BE.
THERE'S ONE IN WALMART IN NORTH INDIO, THERE'S ONE AT CITY HALL.
I DON'T KNOW OF ANY OTHER ONES IN INDIO.
DO WE NEED TO HAVE ONE OFF DILLON ROAD BY THE TRUCK STOP.
DO WE NEED TO HAVE ONE I 50 AND JEFFERSON.
WHAT DOES THE INFRASTRUCTURE LOOK LIKE WITHIN OUR CITY.
DO WE NEED ONE AT JEFFERSON AND INDIO BOULEVARD OFF THE FREEWAY EXIT.
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THAT KIND OF THING.SO MY POINT IS WE FIND AUTO WE NEED TO HAVE 15 INDIVIDUAL EV CHARGING STATIONS WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS OF INDIO AND WE HAVE FIVE, THEN WE CAN KIND OF KNOW WE NEED TO GET 10 MORE.
WITH THAT DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS OR QUESTIONS THAT SARA NEEDS TO ASK? WE'RE KIND OF RUNNING LATE HERE.
IF YOU COULD EMAIL THOSE TO SARA SO SHE HAS THEM AND GIVE THE INFORMATION FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
[7.2 SB 1383]
WE ARE KIND OF RUNNING OUT OF TIME HERE.
I'M GOING TO RUN THROUGH THIS VERY QUICKLY.
I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A BACKGROUND OF 1383 VERY QUICK.
AFTER THAT, WE'LL JUST I THINK JERRY WANTED THIS ON THE AGENDA SO WE COULD TALK ABOUT WHAT'S COMING.
BASICALLY 1383 IS ALL ABOUT MOVING THE ORGANICS AND FOOD OUT OF THE WASTE STREAM BECAUSE IT'S MOSTLY BEING SENT TO THE LANDFILL RIGHT NOW.
AT THE SAME TIME WITH FOOD, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING HUNGRY.
SO TAKING THAT OUT AND ACTUALLY REUSING IT IN A WAY TO FEED PEOPLE IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
ON TOP OF THAT, IF IT GOES TO THE LANDFILL, IT CREATES METHANE WHICH IS A SUPER STRONG GREENHOUSE GAS.
REGULATIONS ACTUALLY TOOK PLACE JANUARY 1, 2022, WHICH IS WHY YOU'RE HEARING ABOUT IT RIGHT NOW.
KEEP IN MIND ALOCAL OF REGULATIONS HIT, WHEN THEY HIT, THEY'RE GOING TO RAISE WASTE RATES TO RESIDENTS AND ESPECIALLY RESTAURANTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THE LAST TWO YEARS WITH COVID, THESE TWO ENTITIES HAVE BEEN HIT PRETTY HARD.
AND IT WAS JUST A VERY DIFFICULT TIME DURING COVID TO TELL A RESTAURANT THAT HASN'T BEEN OPEN FOR THREE MONTHS THAT NOW WE'RE GOING TO RAISE RATES AND PUT THESE REGULATIONS ON YOU.
THERE'S VALID REASONS WHY JANUARY 1ST, 2022 CAME AROUND AND NOBODY KNEW ABOUT SB 1383.
AND CAL RECYCLE HAS MADE IT VERY CLEAR.
EVERYONE IS GOING TO HAVE THIS SERVICE.
COMMERCIAL FACILITIES MUST HAVE THIS SERVICE.
RESIDENTIAL FOLKS MUST HAVE THE SERVICE.
THERE HAS TO BE AN EDIBLE FOOD PROGRAM.
IT CAN'T JUST ALL GO TO COMPOST.
IF IT'S GOOD FOOD, I THINK AT LEAST 20% OF IT HAS TO GO TO A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN GET IT.
WE HAVE TO BUY COMPOST AT THE END OR SOME KIND OF PRODUCT FROM RECYCLING THIS ORGANIC WASTE THAT WAY IT CLOSES THE CIRCLE AND YOU DON'T JUST HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF COMPOST OR HOWEVER ELSE YOU'RE USING IT JUST SITTING SOMEWHERE.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF MONITORING AND COMPLIANCE.
WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DO A LOT OF OUTREACH.
AND I HOPE TO BE ABLE TO BRING THAT TO YOU PRETTY SOON.
AND THEN WE HAVE TO CREATE AN ORDINANCE.
IT'S NOT JUST EVERYBODY HAS TO DO THIS.
IT'S EVERYBODY HAS TO DO THIS OR THE CITY HAS TO CREATE AN ORDINANCE TO BE ABLE TO ACTUAL ENFORCE AND FINE PEOPLE IF THEY DON'T.
AND IF WE DON'T, CAL RECYCLE WILL ENFORCE ON THE CITY AND THEN FINE THE CITY.
AND THAT'S THE GIST OF THE OVERALL PORTION OF THIS.
RIGHT NOW WE ARE WRITING THE ORDINANCE.
WE'LL TAKE THAT TO CITY COUNCIL TO BE ADOPTED.
THAT'S AN ABSOLUTE IN THE LEGISLATION.
WE HAVE TO DO IT OR CAL RECYCLE WILL FINE US.
IF WE FIND IN TWO YEARS THAT PEOPLE ARE STILL NOT ON BOARD, THEN WE HAVE TO SHOW THAT WE ARE ENFORCING OUR ORDINANCE.
AND THEN WE ARE WRITING A LOT OF THESE REQUIREMENTS INTO OUR AGREEMENT WITH BURK TECH.
THEY'RE GOING TO HELP A LOT WITH THE OUTREACH AND A LOT OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE WE HAVE TO BE DOING NOW.
INDIO, ONCE WE GET THOSE TWO THINGS IN PLACE, WE'RE GOING TO START ROLLING OUT THE
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STATE PART OF THIS IS THAT EVERYONE HAS TO HAVE THE SAME COLOR TRASH CANS.SO HERE WE HAVE THE BURGUNDY, THE GRAY, THE GREEN FOR RESIDENTIAL.
AND THAT HAS TO CHANGE TO GRAY FOR WASTE, BLUE FOR RECYCLING, AND GREEN FOR ORGANICS.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.
1383 ALLOWS BETWEEN NOW AND I THINK 2036 WE CAN SLOWLY ROLL OUT CONTAINERS.
BUT THAT'S DIFFICULT FOR US BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE AN OLD GRAY CONTAINER, IT'S RECYCLING.
IF YOU HAVE A NEW GRAY CONTAINER, THEN IT'S TRASH.
CAL RECYCLE DID RELEASE GRANT FUNDING FOR CITYS.
SO THE CITY OF INDIO HAS,THERE'S ABOUT $121,000 THAT THE CITY OF INDIO CAN GET ONCE WE ADOPT OUR ORDINANCE.
WE'RE SCHEDULED FOR THE SECOND ROUND OF FUNDING SO THAT WOULD BE IN SEPTEMBER, SEPTEMBER 1ST WE'LL KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO GET THAT.
AND WE'RE GOING TO USE THAT, THE IDEA TO USE IT TO BUY A BUNCH OF BLUE BARRELS SO THAT WE HELP WITH THAT CONFUSION.
BUT ALL THE NEW BARRELS THAT GO OUT WILL HAVE SPANISH AND ENGLISH AND LOTS OF PICTURES OF WHAT GOES INTO WHETHER IT'S GRAY, NEW OR OLD.
BIRK TECH IS ACTUALLY WORKING ON ALL OF THAT.
AND YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR A LOT MORE ABOUT THIS IN THE COMING MONTHS.
OBVIOUSLY ONCE WE GET THE AGREEMENT AND THE ORDINANCE IN PLACE, THEN WE'RE GOING TO START PUSHING OUT THIS TO NOT ONLY RESIDENTS BUT ALSO COMMERCIAL FACILITIES.
THEY ULTIMATELY HAVE NO CHOICE.
THEY'LL BE ROLLED INTO AN ORGANIC SERVICE AS WELL AS PART OF THEIR WASTE AND RECYCLING SERVICES.
WE HAVE FUNDING TO HELP ALL KINDS OF DIVERSION.
ONE OF THE ISSUES WITH 1383 THAT I DON'T LIKE IS THAT IT DOESN'T AT ALL PRIORITIZE WASTE REDUCTION.
IT WON'T CHANGE YOUR BILL BECAUSE IT'S ALL KIND OF ROLLED INTO ONE.
YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR THE SERVICE.
SO THOSE KINDS OF THINGS I THINK USING KIND OF SETTING THE STAGE FOR USING SOME OF THAT WASTE DIVERSION MONEY TO THINK OF A WAY TO REWARD SOME OF THESE COMMERCIAL FACILITIES OR RESIDENTS OR WHOEVER BY REDUCING WASTE TO BEGIN WITH I THINK MIGHT BE GOOD PROGRAMS. CERTAINLY HELPING THEM ROLL THIS OUT AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
THE OTHER ISSUE IS THAT, NEXT TIME WE TALK ABOUT IT, I'D LIKE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS, FOR SOME REASON 1383 ALLOWED PLASTIC BAGS TO BE ABLE TO BE ONE OF THE WAYS THAT YOU COLLECT ORGANIC WASTE.
IN INDIO, WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT YOU CAN PUT YOUR COMPOST OR YOUR FOOD WASTE IN A PLASTIC BAG AND WE'RE GOING TO TELL YOU TO PUT THAT IN YOUR COMPOST BIN.
BUT THAT PLASTIC BAG IN YOUR FOOD WASTE OR COMPOST BIN.
BIRK TECH HAS TO WRITE A LETTER SAYING THEY CAN TAKE IT OUT.
AS LONG AS THEY DO, THAT'S OKAY.
HERE WE HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO SEPARATE IT BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE COMPOSTING FACILITIES HERE.
IT'S OUR ONLY OPTION RIGHT NOW FOR MOVING THE FOOD WASTE.
AND IN THE COMPOST BINS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A VERY SPECIFIC RATIO OF GREEN WASTE VERSUS FOOD WASTE.
SO THEY CAN'T BE MIXED TOGETHER, JUST THROWN TOGETHER.
THEY NEED TO BE IN SOME KIND OF BAG.
I JUST DON'T THINK I CAN TELL PEOPLE TO PUT PLASTIC IN THEIR COMPOST BINS.
I'M HAVING A REALLY HARD TIME WITH THAT.
I THINK IT'S JUST GOING TO HAVE TO BE PAPER OR A COMPOSTABLE BAG.
THAT'S HOW I WANT TO WRITE IT.
>> SO WE'D NEED TO GET PAPER BAGS THEN FOR OUR FOOD WASTE AND PUT THAT INTO THE GREEN TRASH CAN?
>> SO THAT'S WHAT I AM SAYING.
IT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
HOW IS BIRK TECH GOING TO OPEN EVERY PLASTIC BAG.
THERE'S ACTUALLY THESE GIANT SEPARATION MACHINES.
ONE OF THEM IS CALLED A THOR MACHINE.
WHAT IT DOES IS BASICALLY POUNDS THE WET KIND OF FOOD WASTE TO THE BOTTOM.
THEY'VE BEEN KNOWN TO TAKE OUT QUITE A BIT THEY CAN TAKE UP TO 95 OR 99% OF CONTAMINANTS.
THE PROBLEM IS MICROPLASTICS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THERE'S NOT A SPECIFIC THIS IS HOW YOU TEST FOR MICROPLASTICS AND COMPOST AND WHAT ABOUT NANO PLASTICS.
AND IS EVERYTHING BEING TESTED FOR THIS.
I HAVE MANY QUESTIONS ABOUT PUTTING PLASTIC INTO COMPOST OF ALL THINGS THAT'S GOING TO GO INTO FOOD.
EVEN IF WE CAN SAY WE CAN TAKE IT OUT.
I JUST THINK IT HAS TO BE EITHER COMPOSTABLE OR PAPER.
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IT HAS TO BREAK DOWN.>> I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT NOTION, SARA.
WHILE THOSE EFFORTS HAVEN'T NECESSARILY TAKEN PLACE, THIS IS AS GOOD A TIME AS EVER TO START THOSE DISCUSSIONS.
CONSUMERS SHOULD BE MAKING THAT CHOICE.
I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT IF IT'S EDIBLE FOOD.
THIS IS A BIGGER TOPIC WE CAN TALK IN THE FUTURE.
IF IT'S EDIBLE FOOD, IT HAS TO GO TO SOMEONE WHO NEEDS IT.
CAN YOU EXPAND ON THAT A LITTLE BIT?
>> IT WON'T GO THROUGH THE CITY, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT PLACES LIKE GROCERY STORES AND PLACES LIKE THAT THAT HAVE FOOD THAT CAN STILL BE EDIBLE THAT THEY CAN'T USE, MAKES IT TO A PLACE LIKE FOOD BANK.
>> SO THAT'S MORE OF A COMMERCIAL REQUIREMENT THAN FOR A RESIDENT.
LET'S SAY IF A RESIDENT HAS SOME FOOD THEY'RE THROWING AWAY, THEY DON'T HAVE TO WORRY.
>> I WAS WONDERING THE SAME THING.
HOW COULD YOU POSSIBLY DO THAT ON A RESIDENTIAL BASIS.
>> SO IF WE CAN BE REAL QUICK, I'VE GOT A CALL AT 7 O'CLOCK.
I THOUGHT THIS MEETING WAS GOING TO BE A LOT SHORTER DUE TO THE SMALL AGENDA.
WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE THE NEXT 7.3, SARA.
[7.3 Sustainability Collection Events]
I'LL GO THROUGH THIS QUICKLY.SUSTAINABILITY COLLECTION EVENTS, THEY ARE SCHEDULED.
I HAVE A POWERPOINT BUT WE'LL GO THROUGH THAT.
THE NEXT ONE IS COMING UP ON MAY 19TH.
CLEAN UP EVENT WITH THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND EVERYONE NEXT WEEKEND.
WE JUST HAVE OUR NORMAL PAPER SHREDDING, OIL COLLECTING EVENT THAT WE DO AT THE INDIO CORPORATE YARD THE WATER AUTHORITY ON MARCH 19TH.
[7.4 New Hire Packet for City Employees]
I CAN GO OVER THAT IN THE NEXT MEETING.ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY COMMENTS THEY WANT TO SHARE WITH THE COMMISSION WITH
[8. COMMISSIONER COMMENTS]
SARA?>> NO, NOT FROM ME, THANK YOU.
>> FOR MYSELF JUST VERY QUICKLY IN TERMS OF SOME GRANTS AVAILABILITY AND TALKING ABOUT BEING IN AT THE NINTH HOUR, THERE'S A COUPLE THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO GET IN HOUR ZERO THOSE BEING CALIFORNIA'S TRANSFORMATIVE RELEASED MARCH 8TH I WANT TO SAY.
I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE MAY WANT TO PUT IN TO AN AGENDA AND TRY TO CONSIDER SOME OF THE PROJECTS.
AND THE OTHER ONE, I DON'T THINK IT'S BEEN ANNOUNCED JUST YET BUT SHOULD BE COMING UP SOON IS THE ATP THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM.
THAT ONE THEY JUST WRAPPED UP SOME COMMUNITY OUTREACH EVENTS AND CITY OUTREACH EVENTS TO TRY TO CREATE THE CRITERIA.
I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE COMING OUT SOON.
THE CRITERIA HOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE GRADING THAT.
A COUPLE OF ONES TO KEEP TRACK OF THAT ARE GOING TO BE HAVING PRETTY BIG FUNDING.
HOPEFULLY WILL BE THERE ON SATURDAY FOR THE EVENT, THE COMMUNITY CLEAN UP.
IF YOU COULD FOLLOW UP WITH SARA THE LINKS, THE INFORMATION SO HER AND HER TEAM HAVE IT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMISSIONER COMMENTS? WITH THAT, WE'LL GO QUICKLY TO STAFF ITEMS. SARA.
AND SO WITH THAT, A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
WE TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF STUFF.
>> THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.