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>> I WOULD LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE PUBLIC ARTS COMMISSION FOR THE CITY OF

[1. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL]

INDIO TODAY TUESDAY, JULY 12TH, 5:30 P.M.

MAY WE HAVE ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

>> COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ.

COMMISSIONER BECERRA.

>> HERE.

>> COMMISSIONER CRUZ-ZENDEJAS.

VICE CHAIRPERSON NEUMEYER.

>> HER.

>> AND CHAIRPERSON SCHINSKY.

>> HERE.

THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER BECERRA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, PLEASE.

>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDERGOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>> THANK YOU.

ITEM NUMBER 3, PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

WE HAVE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS?

>> WE DON'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS.

HAVE YOU RECEIVED ANYTHING, MS. SMITH?

>> NO.

>> THANK YOU.

NO COMMENTS, SIR.

>> ITEM 4, ARE THERE ANY PRESENTATIONS BY LOCAL ARTISTS AND/OR ART ORGANIZATIONS?

>> THERE IS NONE TONIGHT.

[5.1. Second Entry Gateway Project (Kenner Avenue and Jackson Street) : Revi...]

>> OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ACTION ITEMS. ITEM 5.1, SECOND ENTRY GATEWAY PROJECT WHICH IS KENNER AVENUE AND JACKSON STREET.

>> GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRPERSON AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.

I APOLOGIZE.

I'M GONNA JUST PROVIDE THE PRESENTATION FROM THE CHAIR.

I AM A LITTLE BIT SICK.

I DID A COVID TEST THIS MORNING AND IT IS NOT COVID.

IT IS JUST A REGULAR ALLERGY OR SICKNESS.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO DO THAT.

AS YOU MENTIONED, THIS IS ACTION ITEM NUMBER 5.1 WHICH IS OUR SECOND ENTRY GATEWAY PROJECT.

WE ARE TRYING TO GET AS CULTURAL PIECE WITHIN THE GRASS AREA WHICH IS OFF OF I-10 NORTH OF KENNER AVENUE AND WEST OF JACKSON STREET.

THE PROJECT WILL BE IN SCULPTURE FORM WITH A COMBINATION OF ELEMENTS.

IT COULD BE EXISTING OR CONCEPTUAL.

BY EXISTING WE MEAN IT COULD HAVE BEEN FABRICATED ALREADY AND THE ARTIST MAY HAVE A PIECE THAT IS SUITABLE OR THEY CAN COME UP WITH THE CONCEPT, AND BASICALLY THE INTENT IS TO CREATE A STATEMENT VIEW THAT CAN BE ENJOYED BY RESIDENTS AND THE VISITORS TO THE CITY.

AS I SAID, THE LOCATIONS NORTHWEST CORNER OF KENNER AND JACKSON NEAR I-10.

THE RELEASE DATE IS JULY 14TH, 2022 AND THE DEADLINE IS SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2022 AT 5 P.M.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL TO INSTALL A SCULPTURE ENTRY MONUMENT AND ALSO STAFF WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE COMMISSION TO APPOINT AN AD-HOC COMMITTEE FOR ARTWORK SELECTION FOR PUBLIC ARTS CONSIDERATION.

AND AS YOU KNOW THIS PROJECT WAS APPROVED AS PART OF THE YEARLY WORK PLAN OF THE COMMISSION BY THE COMMISSION AND BY THE COUNCIL.

THE BUDGET FOR THIS PIECE IS $125,000 AND THAT'S THE MAXIMUM BUDGET.

THAT WILL CONCLUDE MY STAFF REPORT.

I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

>> DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> I DO.

WERE THERE MORE PLANS FOR RELANDSCAPING AT THAT PARK?

>> SO THERE IS NO TIME FOR RELANDSCAPING.

WE ADDED THE LANDSCAPE AS PART OF THE PROJECT AS WELL SO WHEN THE ARTISTS COME UP WITH THEIR DESIGN THEY CAN ALSO SHOW US WHERE THE LANDSCAPE COULD BE AND PERHAPS A DESERT LANDSCAPE SO THE SPRINKLERS WON'T SPRAY WATER ON THE PIECE, BUT IF WE HAVE TO DO ANYTHING ELSE BESIDE THAT, THEN THAT WOULD BE WHAT THE

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ARTIST PROPOSE.

WE WOULD COME BACK BEFORE THE ART COMMISSION AND THE COUNCIL AND MAYBE WE WOULD GET THE PUBLIC ARTS -- I'M SORRY, THE PUBLIC WORKS TO BE PART OF THE DISCUSSION AS WELL.

>> COMMISSIONER BECERRA, ANY QUESTIONS?

>> THIS PROJECT DOES NOT HAVE A THEME?

>> CORRECT.

>> IT WILL BE GOING UP SOON, THE 14TH.

>> YES.

>> WE WOULD NEED TO SELECT AN AD HOC COMMITTEE TO GO THROUGH THE SUBMISSIONS AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS.

I'M GONNA THROW MY NAME IN THE HAT FOR THAT, PLEASE.

WHICH MEANS WE NEED ONE MORE MEMBER OF THIS COMMISSION TO BE ON THAT AD HOC COMMITTEE.

DO I HAVE ANY VOLUNTEERS?

>> CHAIRPERSON, DID YOU -- WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD A THEME TO THE PROJECT OR NO?

>> I THINK THE AD HOC COMMITTEE, ONCE WE DETERMINE WHO THEY ARE, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT.

SOMETIMES THE THEME, ESPECIALLY FOR AN ENTRY PIECE COULD BE A SMART THING TO DO.

>> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE A DESCRIPTION AND THEY TALK ABOUT THE LAND BEING FARMLAND SO MAYBE BRING THAT AS A CONSIDERATION TO SOMETHING AND PARTICULARLY WHEN I WAS READING THROUGH THIS.

>> THE HISTORY OF AGRICULTURE.

YEAH.

ONCE WE DETERMINE WHO THE AD HOC COMMITTEE IS, THEN WE CAN GET TOGETHER AND REALLY FLUSH THAT OUT AND COME UP WITH SOMETHING MORE SUBSTANTIAL.

>> I JUST FORGOT TO ASK SOMETHING.

I LIKE TO ADD A SECTION WHICH I FORGOT TO ADD WHICH IS THEY NEED TO -- THE ARTIST NEEDS TO ALSO FIGURE OUT WHERE ALL THE UNDERGROUND UTILITIES ARE, SO I WILL ADD THAT TO RFP.

IT MAY NOT BE -- WE WILL BE HELPED WITH THAT, BUT I WANT TO HAVE THAT THERE AS THEY LOOK FOR THE UNDERGROUND UTILITIES.

THERE PROBABLY ARE SOME WATER LINE AND ELECTRICITY LINES TOO.

SO IF THE COMMISSION IS OKAY WITH THAT, I MAY ADD THAT AS A SECTION THAT THE ARTIST SHOULD NOTE.

>> ARE YOU GOING TO REQUIRE THEM TO LOCATE IT THEMSELVES?

>> NO.

THEY GIVE IT TO THEM WHERE THEY ARE, BUT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THEY SHOULD NOTE OF IT SO THEY DON'T JUST ASSUME THAT WE ARE GONNA FIGURE IT OUT.

>> SURE.

HOPEFULLY THERE IS ONLY LOW VOLTAGE AND SPRINKLER LINES THERE.

THERE WAS A SWIMMING POOL THEY DEMOLISHED.

HOPEFULLY THERE IS NOTHING UNDER THE GROUND.

>> THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

>> I WILL ADD THE DEVELOPER CAN GO AND IF THEY NEED ASSISTANCE WE CAN HELP THEM.

>> THERE USED TO BE RESIDENCES AND BUSINESSES ON THE OCULAR SOLE AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT OLD GAS LINES AND PLUMBING.

>> WELL, WE HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL FOR THE AD HOC COMMITTEE, THAT BEING MYSELF.

ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO VOLUNTEER?

>> I WILL BE ABSTAINING FROM THIS ONE.

>> YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I CAN ALWAYS ASK CECE OR NOE IF THEY WANT TO DO IT.

>> IF THEY DON'T WANT TO DO IT, I DON'T MIND.

I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE LIST AND I AM ON THREE OUT OF THE SIX.

>> WE CAN POSTPONE THAT TO THE NEXT MEETING.

>> IF NO ONE ELSE WANTS TO, I CAN.

>> WE HAVE ONE.

>> MAYBE WE CAN JUST SELECT THE AD HOC COMMITTEE AND THEN WE CAN CHANGE IT IF IT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED.

>> DO YOU HAVE A LIST OF AD HOC COMMITTEES IN FRONT OF YOU? NOE.

NOE.

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EVERYONE IS BUSY ON ALL SORTS OF THINGS.

I WOULD LIKE TO ASK COMMISSIONER GUTIERREZ IF HE WOULD AGREE, AND IF HE DOES, FINE.

AND IF NOT, THEN THE NEXT TIME AROUND -- I THINK WE CAN GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THE RFP WITHOUT THE AD HOC.

>> SURE.

>> COULD I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RFP LESS THE AD HOC COMMITTEE?

>> MOTION TO APPROVE THE RFP.

>> I WILL SECOND.

>> COMMISSIONER BECERRA?

>> YES.

>> VICE-CHAIRPERSON NEUMEYER?

>> YES.

>> CHAIRPERSON SCHINSKY?

>> YES.

>> MOTION CARRIED.

>> THANK YOU.

ITEM 5.2, TRAFFIC SIGNAL BOX PROGRAM.

[5.2. Traffic Signal Box Program: To approve circulation of a Request For Pr...]

TO APPROVE CIRCULATION OF A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL, RFP, FOR THE CITY'S TRAFFIC SIGNAL BOX PROGRAM FOR 60-DAYS.

>> SO WE RECEIVED SOME IMAGES FROM THE TEEN CENTER WE GO THROUGH I BELIEVE NEXT SLIDES.

AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT MAYBE WE CAN HAVE AN OPEN UNTIL FILLED APPLICATION ON FOR THIS PROJECT, ARE NOT JUST 60-DAYS AND OPEN IT TO EVERYBODY 18 AND ABOVE SO IT WON'T BE JUST COACHELLA VALLEY.

WE COULD GET MORE PROPOSALS.

LAST TIME WITH THE LIMITED PROPOSALS AND THIS TIME WITH THE TEEN CENTER ALSO IT IS EVEN LESS LIMITED.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE A BETTER WAY TO GO.

I PUT IT IS UP TO THE COMMISSION IF YOU WANT TO HAVE IT OPEN UNTIL FILLED BECAUSE WE HAVE ANOTHER 30 BOXES THAT THEY ARE SITUATED IN A HIGH VISIBILITY CORRIDOR OR CORNERS THAT MAKE SENSE TO WRAP IT IN.

THAT CONCLUDES MY STAFF REPORT.

IF THE COMMISSION AGREES WE CAN EITHER GO WITH THIS RECOMMENDATION OR READVISE IT.

>> I THINK IT WOULD BE WISE TO HAVE AN RFP UNTIL THE 30 BOXES WERE -- YOU KNOW, WERE THE IMAGES WERE IMPROVED INSTEAD OF DOING IT IN INCREMENTS AND COMING BACK TO -- DOING MORE INCREMENTS COMING BACK.

JUST KEEP THAT RFP PERIOD OPEN UNTIL WE HAVE REACHED THE MAGIC NUMBER OF 30.

SO IF I CAN GET -- IF ANYONE AGREES, AND IF I CAN GET A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT?

>> MOVE TO CIRCULATE AN RFP FOR A TRAFFIC SIGNAL BOX AND OPEN IT UP TO PEOPLE OVER THE AGE OF 18.

>> 60-DAYS OR UNTIL 30 BOXES ARE FILLED.

>> IT IS IN MY MOTION TO SAY THAT.

>> SOUNDS GOOD.

NOTED.

>> SECOND THE MOTION.

>> SO WE HAVE -- >> COMMISSIONER BECERRA.

>> YES.

>> VICE-CHAIR NEUMEYER.

>> YES.

>> CHAIRPERSON SCHINSKY.

>> YES.

>> MOTION CARRIES.

[5.3. Student Stipend for Coachella Valley Museum Water Tower Project: To ap...]

>> THANK YOU.

ITEM 5.3 IS APPROVE A STUDENT STIPEND FOR THE COACHELLA VALLEY HISTORY

MUSEUM WATER TOWER PROJECT, AND THAT WOULD BE -- >> SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE, I CAN EXPLAIN IT A LITTLE BIT MORE.

I CONTACTED SOME OF THE SCHOOLS, AND THEY RESPONDED BACK TO ME.

I TALKED TO THE INSTRUCTORS, AND THEY WERE INTERESTED TO KNOW HOW MUCH THE STIPEND WOULD BE.

I CAN'T MAKE THE DECISION SO THAT'S WHY I AM COMING BEFORE THE COMMISSION.

WE MAY NEED TO GO TO THE COUNCIL FOR THAT AS WELL.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO KNOW, LET'S SAY, IF WE GET SEVERAL PROPOSALS AND WE WOULD LIKE TO, FOR EXAMPLE, CHOOSE THREE OF THEM, HOW MUCH STIPEND WE WILL GIVE THEM AT THE END? DOES THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEM SOMETHING FOR INITIATION AS WELL? AND AGAIN, WE HAVE A BUDGET FOR $10,000 PER YEAR FOR IMAGES.

NOT BUDGET, BUT IT WAS DISCUSSED THAT $10,000 PER YEAR TO BE DEDICATED FOR NEW IMAGERY.

THAT'S WHY WE ARE BEFORE YOU TO SEE IF THERE IS THE MAGIC NUMBER THAT THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO DEDICATE FOR THIS PROJECT, AND THEN IF YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE

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COUNCIL, THEN WE'LL GO TO THE COUNCIL AS WELL FOR THE APPROVE.

>> ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS?

>> THERE WAS MORE TO THE PRESENTATION THAT YOU HAD, GOING INTO A 12-MONTH EXCLUSIVE WITH PAINT SCAPING AND EVERYTHING.

>> I HAVEN'T CONTACTED THE PAINT SCAPING FOR THE 12-MONTH EXCLUSIVE, BUT THIS IS JUST FOR THIS PORTION OF THAT FULL PROJECT.

SO IF THE COMMISSION WANTS TO STOP AND THEN GO THROUGH THE PAINT SCAPING AND GET THE FEEDBACK FROM HIM, I CAN DO THAT AS WELL.

>> OKAY.

RIGHT NOW YOU ARE JUST LOOKING FOR AN AMOUNT FOR A STIPEND.

>> CORRECT.

>> AND THEN KIND OF HAVE BOTH, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE PROPOSAL THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE STUDENT.

THIS IS THE PROPOSAL THAT WE GOT FROM PAINT SCAPING.

AND YOU CAN GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE THING AND SEE WHICH ONE YOU MAY CHOOSE.

YOU MAY CHOOSE PAINT SCAPING OR IT COULD BE BASED ON THE QUALITY OF THE WORK.

>> REFRESH MY MEMORY, THE WORD PAINTSCAPING, I AM UNCOMFORTABLE WITH AN EXCLUSIVE WITH ANYBODY.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

>> SO BASICALLY MEANS THEY DO EVERYTHING FROM CREATING IMAGE, RUNNING IT, TESTING IT AND THEY GIVE US FOR EVERY YEAR 12 MONTHS WHAT WE NEED TO BE UP THERE.

>> IT REALLY DOES LEAVE OUT ANY LOCAL ARTIST, ANY ARTIST FROM THE REGION, THE STATE, WHEREVER.

>> IF IT WILL BE COMPLETELY EXCLUSIVE, YES, IT WOULD NOT BE ANYBODY ELSE.

>> I AM NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT AT ALL.

>> IN OTHER WORDS IT WILL NOT BE EXCLUSIVE, AND WE CAN GO THROUGH THE THREE COMPANIES WE KNOW OF AND THE STUDENTS AND TO RECEIVE SOME, YOU KNOW, SAMPLES, YOU KNOW, 30 SECONDS OF SHOWS THEY CAN SHOW TO US AND WE CAN SAY WHICH ONE WE LIKE AND HOW MUCH IT COSTS AND GO FROM THERE.

THAT COULD BE ANOTHER OPTION.

>> DID WE EVER GET A HARD NUMBER ON PRODUCTION, WHAT A GOOD PRODUCTION WOULD COST?

>> SO THE GOOD PRODUCTION IS BETWEEN 15,000 TO 40,000 IS BASED ON HOW LONG IT IS AND WHAT TYPE OF IMAGES ARE THERE.

IS IT GOING TO BE MUSIC? WHAT KIND OF MUSIC WILL BE THERE, SO ALL THOSE.

IT IS ANIMATION, BASICALLY.

SO HOW COMPLEX THE ANIMATION IS, STICK FIGURES OR PIXAR QUALITY AND WHAT KIND OF MUSIC.

>> THIS IS SOMETHING I THINK WE NEED TO WORK ON, HAVE MORE DISCUSSION BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO HAVE POTENTIAL ARTISTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY OR THE WORLD TO SUBMIT AND WE STILL HAVE OUR OUTSIDE CONSULTANT PITCHING NEW PRODUCTION.

THE PRODUCTION COSTS FOR HIM TO HIRE ACTORS AND FILM IT AND DO ALL THAT SORT OF THING.

IT IS NOT NECESSARILY ADAPTING WORK TO THE TOWER.

IT IS HIRING HIM TO CREATE ANOTHER PRODUCTION HE LIKES TO DO AND HE LIKES TO DO THESE THINGS.

I'M NOT GOING TO LEAVE OUT THAT HE HAS EVERY RIGHT TO APPLY TO DO THESE THINGS.

HE'S GOT TO PITCH THE IDEA SAME AS EVERYONE ELSE.

BUT AS FAR AS A COMMISSION GOING OUT AND SAYING WE WANT YOU TO USE THIS THEME, PAINT SCAPING, AND CREATE AN ORIGINAL PIECE AND HERE IS YOUR BUDGET, I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT THIS PROGRAM SHOULD BE.

>> MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE BEGINNING OF THIS PROJECT WAS IT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ARTISTS TO COME TO US WITH NEW PROGRAMMING BASED ON WHATEVER IMAGERY, THEME THEY FELT WAS APPROPRIATE.

AND GETTING THAT LOCAL ENERGY AND CREATIVE COMMUNITY INPUT AND PARTICIPATION, NOT DEALING WITH ONE PARTICULAR COMPANY THAT WANTS AN EXCLUSIVE DEAL.

I'D FEEL VERY UNCOMFORTABLE BY TELLING THE LOCAL, REGIONAL, STATE, WORLD,

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WHATEVER ARTIST COMMUNITY THAT, NO, WE ARE GOING TO STICK WITH THE ORIGINAL PEOPLE.

>> SO WE CAN DO IT THE SAME WAY AS THE OTHERS.

MAYBE HAVE A FEE FOR EVERYBODY, ALL OF THE IMAGING COMPANIES TO APPLY FOR AND EXCLUSIVE FOR STUDENTS.

WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE STUDENTS IS THEY HAVE ALL THOSE, YOU KNOW, THE SOFTWARES, THE HARDWARES, THE ARTISTS, THE SCRIPTS AND ALL THOSE COLLABORATIVE TALENT IN ONE SPACE, AND THEY ARE NOT PAYING FOR THAT.

THEY ARE USING IT FOR FREE.

THE STIPEND WOULD BE THEIR REWARD.

SO IT WOULD BE CHEAPER AS OPPOSED TO GO THROUGH THOSE COMPANIES.

YOU CAN HAVE TWO SEPARATE RFP'S.

WE CAN RUN THEM CONCURRENTLY AND WE CAN RUN THEM ONE AFTER THE OTHER.

THESE ARE THE OPTIONS.

I AGREE WITH YOU.

EXCLUSIVE TO PAINT SCAPING, MAYBE NOT WHAT THE COMMISSION MEANT BACK THEN AND MEANS NOW.

I THINK HE SHOULD BE -- HE SHOULD KNOW THERE IS AN RFP OUT AND -- >> MY QUESTION, AND I AM READING THE STAFF REPORT AS WE ARE DISCUSSING THIS AND YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT TWO SEPARATE RFP'S.

ONE FOR AFFIRM AND ONE FOR STUDENT LEVEL.

WHAT WOULD BE THE RFP FOR A FIRM BE, TO CREATE CONTENT FROM SCRATCH OR MODIFY SOMEONE'S WORK?

>> BASICALLY WE GIVE THEM THE SPECIFICATION AND THE RESOLUTIONS AND HOW THIS WORKS.

THEY COME UP WITH THE CONTENT AND EVERYTHING THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO CREATE.

WE ARE NOT GIVING THEM A SPECIFIC FEE, BUT THEY CAN COME UP WITH THE SHOW AND THE SCRIPT AND WHATEVER IS SUPPOSED TO BE THERE.

IT COULD BE BASICALLY THEIR IMAGINATION.

>> SOUNDS LIKE WE ARE CREATING A POOL OF MONEY TO EITHER HAVE PROFESSIONAL LEVEL ARTISTS CREATE CONTENT OR HAVE STUDENT-LEVEL ARTISTS OR TO HAVE AN OPEN SUBMISSION-TYPE THING, NOT NECESSARILY $15,000 TO SOMEBODY TO CREATE SOMETHING WE TELL THEM TO CREATE.

>> THAT'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT, BUT WHAT IS BEFORE YOU RIGHT NOW IS JUST THE STUDENT STIPEND.

THE OTHER PART IS NOT BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.

THAT 15,000 TO 40,000, THAT'S THE BALLPARK.

IT COULD GO MORE.

IT COULD BE LESS.

IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THEY DO.

THAT'S FOR YOUR INFORMATION.

BASED ON THE BUDGET THAT THE ART HAS -- IT IS UP TO THE COMMISSION.

IF THE COMMISSION COUNCIL DECIDES THEY ARE GONNA SPEND ALL OF THE ART MONEY FOR THIS PROJECT, IT IS UP TO YOU AND THE COUNCIL BASICALLY.

WE ARE JUST GIVING SUGGESTIONS.

>> DID YOU SAY WE HAVE $10,000 FOR THE BUDGET FOR THE YEAR?

>> CORRECT.

>> SO THAT WOULD BE HOW MANY -- HOW MANY IMAGES DID WE WANT PER YEAR?

>> THAT'S THE IMAGE AND THAT MEANS YOU GIVE THEM AN IMAGE AND IT IS $500 TO FLATTEN THE IMAGE.

THAT WAS THAT.

THIS IS A SHOW AND IT MAY GO ABOVE THAT.

THAT WAS NOT A CONTRACT.

IT WAS CONVERSATION.

AND NOW WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH IT COSTS WHEN WE RECEIVE THE RFP'S.

AND THAT COST WILL BE SOMETHING THE COMMISSION NEEDS TO APPROVE AND GO BEFORE THE COUNCIL FOR APPROPRIATION.

IT IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN WHEN THIS WAS DECIDED IN 2017.

2017 WAS IMAGES AND SOMEBODY JUST PUTS IT IN THE TEMPLATE AND CALL IT A DAY.

YOU DON'T HAVE SOMEBODY TO CALL IT A DAY.

YOU NEED TO GO THROUGH SOMEBODY AND THOSE ARE THE COSTS NOW.

>> RIGHT.

>> AS FAR AS STUDENT STIPEND, DOES ANYBODY HAVE A NUMBER?

>> I CAN TELL YOU THE THREE-DAY EVENT AND IT HAPPENS THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT AND THEY SHOOT IT ALL OVER THE PLACE, THEIR PRICE PER YEAR IS $10,000.

THEY HAVE A FIVE AND A TWO AND THREE SINGLE THOUSAND-DOLLAR PRIZES.

THAT'S FOR PROFESSIONAL ARTIST THAT'S GET AWARDS.

THEY HAVE OTHER PIECES THEY RUN THAT DON'T NECESSARILY GET A STIPEND.

IT IS A SUBMISSION FROM ARTISTS.

YOU ARE A PART OF THE FESTIVAL WHETHER OR NOT YOU GET A STIPEND OR NOT.

IT IS PEOPLE CREATING CONTENT, AND THEY ARE USING IT TO -- THEY ARE NOT REALLY PROJECTING THE CYLINDERS.

THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ARTISTS AND THEIRS.

THEY JUST HAVE AN OPEN CALL TO ARTISTS.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A SUBMISSION FEE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

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>> PARTICIPATION IN THE FESTIVAL IS LIKE AN AWARD.

>> I HATE TO REWARD PEOPLE WITH EXPOSURE.

>> AS AN ARTIST, IT IS SOMETHING TO GET UP THERE AS A REGULARLY OCCURRING EVENT.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A REGULARLY-OCCURRING EVENT OR SEVERAL THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

>> AND AGAIN, IF YOU THINK THIS IS PREMATURE, WE CAN TITLE IT BRING IT BACK AGAIN WITH THE IDEAS THAT THE COMMISSION MAY HAVE TONIGHT AND I CAN MAKE NOTE OF THE LIST OF YOUR IDEAS AND BRING IT BACK.

SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TABLE IT FOR THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING, THAT'S ABSOLUTELY FINE.

THERE WON'T BE NO HURT FEELINGS HERE.

>> YEAH.

I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING WE SHOULD DO BECAUSE I REALLY LIKE THE -- I'D LIKE TO HAVE SOME DEFINITE HARD NUMBERS OF WHAT TO OFFER FILM STUDENTS.

PROFESSIONALS ARE PROFESSIONALS.

SOME OF THESE STUDENTS ARE TALENTED, AND EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE ACCESS TO THE LATEST EQUIPMENT, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, YOU KNOW, WE CAN HELP MAKE THEIR CAREERS.

>> THAT'S JUST A SUGGESTION.

IF WE GIVE THE THREE FINALISTS, BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO USE THE SHOWS, ALL THOSE THREE SHOWS AND THE PROJECTION, SO IF YOU GIVE THEM EQUAL 2500 APIECE, IT STILL WOULD BE UNDER THE 10,000 A YEAR, AND WE HAVE THREE SHOWS SO WE CAN STRETCH IT TO TWO YEARS AND WE USE THE THREE SHOWS WITH THE TWO SHOWS WE HAVE AND THEN WE THINK TWO YEARS AGAIN AND DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

YOU CAN THINK ABOUT IT THAT WAY, OR YOU CAN THINK ABOUT IT, YOU WANT TO PAY EVEN MORE, GO OVER THAT 10,000, BUT STRETCH IT TO THREE YEARS OR WHATEVER YOU WISH TO DO.

>> WELL, I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF GOING OVER THE 10,000 BECAUSE WE'RE NOT REALLY SURE YET IF THIS WHOLE PROJECT IS GONNA WORK CORRECTLY.

YOU KNOW, THE 10,000, IT'S A DECENT AMOUNT OF MONEY.

WE CAN GIVE IT A TRY.

I MEAN, I THINK IF WE OFFERED THREE STUDENTS 3,000 APIECE TO DO SOMETHING AND

EACH GET THE $3,000 TO PAY FOR THE PROJECT THEY'RE DOING -- >> I SEE ANOTHER WAY IS FOR PROJECTS THEY MAY ALREADY HAVE.

LIKE STUDENT FILM FESTIVAL BASICALLY IS SOMETHING YOU ALREADY WORKED ON.

THE ISSUE HERE IS IT'S DIFFICULT TO ADAPT BECAUSE IT BASICALLY IS A HUGE, HORIZONTAL IMAGE.

I DO THINK MAYBE IF WE HAVE SOMEONE CREATE SPECIFICALLY FOR THE CYLINDER AND THEN TO HAVE AN OPEN CALL EVENT WHERE MAYBE YOU ARE SHOOTING THE SAME IMAGE THREE TIMES FOR AN OPEN CALL EVENT AND THEN HAVE MONEY AVAILABLE FOR THAT.

I THINK WE NEED TO DISCUSS THIS AND WORK IT OUT A LITTLE LONGER.

>> SO WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT COMMISSION MEETING, AND THEN IN THE MEANTIME WE CAN TALK MORE ABOUT IT?

>> YES.

>> SO MAYBE I WILL SEND AN EMAIL TO GET ALL OF YOUR SUGGESTIONS, AND THEN CONVERT IS TO A STAFF REPORT LIST OF SUGGESTIONS AND THEN BRING IT BACK, I BELIEVE AUGUST 9TH, THE NEXT MEETING.

I CAN BRING IT BACK THEN, AND THEN WE GO FROM THERE.

>> PERFECT.

THANK YOU.

>> SO WE TABLE THIS ITEM.

I BELIEVE YOU NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THE ITEM TO AUGUST 9TH.

>> YES.

>> I MOVE WE CONTINUE THIS UNTIL AUGUST 9TH.

>> SECOND THAT.

>> SO WE HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BECERRA.

>> COMMISSIONER BECERRA?

>> YES.

>> VICE-CHAIRPERSON NEUMEYER.

>> YES.

>> CHAIRPERSON SCHINSKY.

>> YES.

>> MOTION CARRIES.

>> THANK YOU.

>> AND THERE ARE PROJECT UPDATES.

NUMBER 6, PROJECT UPDATES.

[6.1. Teen Center Traffic Signal Box: An update on the Request For Proposal ...]

TEEN CENTER TRAFFIC SIGNAL BOX.

>> SO WE RECEIVED 16 IMAGES AND I WOULD LIKE TO GET THE HARD DATE FROM THE AD HOC

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COMMITTEE WHICH ONE IS NOT HERE, AND THEN MR. NEUMEYER, IF YOU CAN GIVE ME A HARD DATE AND TIME FOR WHEN WE CAN MEET, THAT WOULD BE GREAT SO WE CAN JUST MEET -- WE CAN MEET AND GO OVER -- IT WOULD BE A ZOOM MEETING SO ANY TIME.

I AM ALSO OKAY IF WE HAVE TO DO IT OVER THE WEEKEND.

IF I CAN GET A COUPLE OF DATES AND TIMES SO I CAN CHECK IT WITH COMMISSIONER ZENDEJAS, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

>> LET ME KNOW.

I AM GOING ON VACATION SATURDAY, SO I CAN DO IT ANY TIME.

>> YOU ARE GOING FOR HOW LONG?

>> I WILL BE GONE FOR TWO WEEKS.

YOU CAN GET ME ANY TIME ON VACATION.

I AM NOT DOING ANYTHING.

>> OKAY.

SO IF I EMAIL YOU, THAT WOULD BE FINE?

>> YES.

JUST NOT ON SATURDAY.

>> I EMAILED YOU -- [INAUDIBLE].

>> I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A NEW ADDRESS BECAUSE I'M HAVING ISSUES WITH MY SERVER.

>> ALL RIGHT.

YOU SEND IT TO ME.

YOU HAVE MY EMAIL, RIGHT?

>> YES.

I'LL GET YOU MY NEW EMAIL ADDRESS.

[6.2. Mural Conservation Assessment Update: An update on the mural conservat...]

>> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> ITEM 6.2, MURAL CONSERVATION ASSESSMENT UPDATE.

>> SO YOU HAVE PROBABLY SEEN THEY PUT -- THEY REMOVED THE MURAL AND PUT THE PRIMER.

THIS IS A PRIMER.

THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO PAINT THIS WALL, THE WALL FACING FARGO AND UNDER THE CANOPY WALL THIS SATURDAY.

I NEED TO CHECK.

I HAVEN'T HAD THE CHANCE TO CHECK.

THE GOOD THING IS THE GRAFFITI ABATEMENT BUDGET WILL COVER THE ENTIRE COST AND LABOR.

SO THAT IS JUST, YOU KNOW GREAT GENEROSITY FROM THE CODE ENFORCEMENT AND THE GRAFFITI ABATEMENT TEAM.

JASON AND TONY AND THE OTHER STUFF THAT THEY JUST DID A GREAT JOB.

I MEAN, IT LOOKS GOOD WITH THE PRIMER.

I JUST WANTED TO LET THE COMMISSION KNOW WE DIDN'T PAY A DIME FOR THIS ONE.

>> THANK YOU GRAFFITI ABATEMENT.

YES.

I SEE THEM ON SATURDAY MORNINGS OUT AND THEY WORK HARD.

6.3, PUBLIC ARTS STRATEGIC PLAN.

[6.3. Public Arts Strategic Plan: An update regarding the Public Arts Strate...]

>> SO THE STRATEGIC PLAN WAS SENT TO THE COMMISSION.

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THE COMMISSION HAD TIME TO REVIEW THE PLAN.

IF THEY HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR ANY DIRECTION ON NEXT STEPS, AND ALSO IF THERE IS A TIMELINE THAT THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO ADHERE TO.

SO BASICALLY I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE COMMISSION, BUT I KNOW WE HAVE TWO OF OUR COMMISSIONERS ABSENT.

I CAN HEAR FROM THE REST OF THE COMMISSION IF YOU HAD THE TIME TO REVIEW IT.

>> PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AND SEND YOUR COMMENTS TO LEILA.

>> I GOT YOUR -- THE NOTES YOU HAVE THAT YOU SENT US.

AM I ON? THE NOTES YOU SENT US WERE THE HIGHLIGHTED PARTS, RIGHT? I AM JUST WONDERING THOSE ARE THE PARTS THAT WE'RE -- OKAY.

I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH IT LINE BY LINE.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A WORKSHOP WHERE WE CAN DIG IN.

>> SURE.

IF THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A WORKSHOP, WHAT DAY, I THINK WE CAN DO IT AT ART COMMISSION MEETING, SO IT WOULD BE ON AGENDA.

IF OTHER PEOPLE AT MEETING WOULD LIKE TO PARTICIPATE AND WE HAVE THE TIME AND THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION.

IF THAT'S WHAT THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO DO, WE CAN SCHEDULE IT.

I THINK THE AUGUST AGENDA IS PRETTY FULL SO MAYBE SEPTEMBER SO YOU HAVE MORE TIME TO REVIEW IT AND AT THAT TIME WE CAN HAVE A WORKSHOP, PROBABLY AN HOUR MAXIMUM.

SO WE ALL NEED TO BE CONCISE TO MEET THAT ONE HOUR AND THAT WOULD BE FINE WITH ME.

IF THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT, THAT'S ABSOLUTELY FINE.

>> IF WE DO THAT, I'M THINKING SEPTEMBER MAKES THE MOST SENSE.

>> I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT AS WELL.

>> SO TENTATIVELY WE CAN SCHEDULE THE SEPTEMBER MEETING TO BE A WORKSHOP ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN, MAXIMUM AN HOUR SO PEOPLE WOULD HAVE TO BE SUCCINCT IN THEIR

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COMMENTS.

>> SOUNDS GOOD TO ME.

IS THAT THE WISH OF THE ENTIRE COMMISSION?

>> YES.

>> GREAT.

WE'LL DO THAT.

>> ALL RIGHT.

6.4, CIRCULATED REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS.

[6.4. Circulated Request For Proposals (RFPs): An update regarding the RFPs ...]

>> SO WE HAD RELEASED THE TWO RFP'S FOR MURAL NUMBER 12 AND MURAL NUMBER 16.

WE PUT IT ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, FACEBOOK AND SOCIAL MEDIA.

STAFF HAD DIRECT EMAIL TO ABOUT 25 ARTISTS.

THEY WERE ARTISTS THAT WE HAD WORKED WITH THEM PREVIOUSLY AND ALSO SOME ARTISTS THAT SINCE I HAVE BEEN ON BOARD WITH THE ART COMMISSION HAS BEEN INTRODUCED TO ME.

AND ALSO THE ARTIST I FOUND ONLINE OR VIA INSTAGRAM.

I SENT IT TO 25.

I RECEIVED THREE, FOUR EMAILS FROM INTERESTED ARTISTS.

I ALSO GOT A PHONE CALL TODAY FROM INTERESTED ARTIST THAT WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT A PROPOSALS.

IT IS EXCITING TO KNOW WITHIN TWO WEEKS WE HAVE INTEREST.

THE KESQ TV CHANNEL INTERVIEWED ME AND ANOTHER ARTIST REGARDING THIS PROJECT.

THEY ALSO PITCHED IT IN THE NEWS.

I GUESS WE'LL RECEIVE SEVERAL PROPOSALS AND IT WILL BE EXCITING TO MEET WITH THE AD HOC COMMITTEE AND PRESENT THEM EVENTUALLY TO THE COMMISSION FOR FINAL SELECTION.

>> THEY WERE CIRCULATING FIRST, AND WHEN IS THE DEADLINE FOR THOSE?

>> SO ONE IS AUGUST 22ND.

THE OTHER ONE I BELIEVE IS SEPTEMBER 1ST.

>> AUGUST 22ND IS THE -- [INAUDIBLE].

>> YES.

>> AND SEPTEMBER IS THE JACKSON STREET BRIDGE.

>> CORRECT.

>> LEILA SENT ME SOME INFORMATION TODAY ON A PROJECT FOR MURALS THAT WAS LIKE A MURAL COMPETITION LIVE AND IN PERSON BECAUSE I HAVE SPOKEN TO A NUMBER OF ARTISTS ABOUT THE JACKSON STREET BRIDGE PROJECT, AND THAT'S HUGE, MASSIVE.

FOR AN INDIVIDUAL TO DO THAT ENTIRE THING IS LIKE ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE IT SEEMS LIKE.

AND THE AMOUNT YOU HAVE BUDGETED IS NOT REAL SAVORY TO SOME FOLKS.

IF YOU RETHOUGHT THE APPROACH ON THE JACKSON STREET BRIDGE WHERE IT SECTIONS OFF AND WHETHER IT IS THREE, FOUR, FIVE AREAS, THE THREE, FOUR, FIVE ARTISTS EACH GET AN AREA AND MAKE THAT AN EVENT OF LIVE COMMUNITY-BASED EVENT WHERE THE ACTUAL COMMUNITY DAY WOULD BE THE LAST DAY THE ARTIST IS WORKING, WHERE WE COULD HAVE THE MURAL FINISHED, WE COULD DO MUSIC, WE COULD DO FOOD.

A DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY EVENT.

>> THE ONLY CAVEAT ON THAT IS MAYBE WE USE THE WALL ON THE WING WALL AND THE WALL ON THE SOUTH PORTION WHICH IS CONNECTED TO DOWNTOWN AND PEOPLE CAN WALK AROUND IT BECAUSE THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO WALK AROUND THE COLUMNS BECAUSE THEY WILL BE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO, BUT WE CAN DISCUSS THAT FURTHER IN OUR NEXT MAYBE SEPTEMBER MEETING OR NEXT MEETING AND BASED ON THE PROPOSALS WE CAN DISCUSS THAT.

MY FEAR IS TO MAKE A COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE CAN CROSS AND LOOK AT THE ARTIST WORKING WHILE IT IS NOT REALLY SAFE.

>> I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE SMART TO HAVE THE ARTIST WORKING AND PEOPLE WATCHING THEM, BUT IT COULD BE -- THEY COULD BE FINISHING UP.

THEY COULD BE SIGNING THEIR NAME TO THE WORK ON THE DAY IT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

IT IS THE DEDICATION BASICALLY.

THAT'S WHEN THE DOWNTOWN WOULD BE ALIVE WITH PEOPLE INSTEAD OF OUR NORMAL

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DEDICATION WHERE A FEW FOLKS ATTEND, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT A MINI FESTIVAL DOWNTOWN.

JUST A THOUGHT.

>> SURE.

WE CAN DISCUSS IT MORE, AND I CAN BRING IT BACK ANY TIME THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE.

>> THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, ITEM 7, COMMISSIONER COMMENTS.

ANYONE HAVE ANY HOT NEWS THEY WOULD LIKE TO SHARE?

[7. COMMISSIONER COMMENTS]

ANYONE DOING ANYTHING INTERESTING BESIDES WORK?

>> NO.

OUR AIR CONDITIONER HAS BEEN BROKEN FOR NEARLY THREE WEEKS IN JUST MY OFFICE.

>> THIS IS GOOD.

>> I DO NOT WORK OUTSIDE.

>> NEXT WEEK IS LATINO CONSERVATION WEEK.

I KNOW ONE PUBLIC EVENT THAT IS HAPPENING WITH CVCC, COACHELLA VALLEY CONSERVATION COMMISSION, ONE OF THEIR WORKERS IS HAVING AN EVENT THAT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

I BELIEVE YOU CAN REGISTER, RSVP THROUGH EPAGE@CVAG.ORG.

WELL -- LET ME GET IT REAL QUICK.

>> IT IS LATINO CONSERVATION WEEK?

>> YES.

IT IS A NATIONWIDE SORT OF EVENT THAT HAPPENS SO DIFFERENT FOLKS CAN DO THE EVENT BASED ON CONSERVATION ON THE COMMUNITY AND WE CAN DO ANYTHING.

>> IN THE LATINO COMMUNITY?

>> YEAH.

IT IS HIGHLIGHTING -- YEAH, IT IS HIGHLIGHTING LATINO CONSERVATIONISTS AND PEOPLE WHO DO WORK WITH THE LATINO COMMUNITY.

IT IS A WIDE RANGE OF CONSERVATION WORK.

YES.

>> OKAY.

FIND US THE INFO AND WE'LL PUBLICIZE IT.

>> EPAGE@CVAG.ORG.

>> EPAIGE@CVAG.ORG.

>> THANK YOU.

>> YEAH.

IF YOU WANT TO DO A NIGHT HIKE IN OSWICK CANYON?

>> NIGHT HIKE?

>> YEAH.

>> WITH THE SNAKES AROUND? NO.

>> SNAKES ARE OUR FRIENDS.

>> THE LAST TIME I NIGHT HIKED WAS IN VIETNAM.

NO, THANK YOU.

I DON'T DO THAT ANYMORE.

>> ALL RIGHT.

>> I AM JUST STAYING AS BUSY AS I AM.

>> AND WE CAN FOLLOW INSTAGRAM FOR COACHELLA VALLEY ART CENTER AND YOU

[8. STAFF ITEMS]

CAN SEE A LOT OF THINGS HAPPENING.

>> YEAH.

THERE IS SUPPOSED TO BE STUFF HAPPENING TONIGHT, AS WE SPEAK.

AZTEC DANCING LESSONS FOR KIDS.

THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO START AT 5, AND I WENT THERE AND THEY HADN'T STARTED YET.

ITEM 8, STAFF ITEMS.

>> SO OUR -- ONE OF THE PIECES FELL LAST WEEK AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS IMAGE.

STAFF CONTACTED GOLDEN VOICE AND THEY WERE THERE TO FIX THAT AND ALSO DOING AN INSPECTION ON ALL OF THE PIECES, ON ALL OF THE TOWERS SO THEY WILL GO THROUGH EACH PIECE AND MAKE SURE THEY ARE IN GOOD SHAPE AND ALSO THEY WILL ADD ADDITIONAL SCREWS AND WASHERS AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE IMAGE ON THE RIGHT IS THE EXISTING SCREWS AND THE LEFT IS THE ONES THEY ARE ADDING WITH WASHERS.

IT IS KIND OF HOLD IT STRONGER IN PLACE.

AND THEY ARE ADDING MORE SCREWS.

SO JUST WANTED TO LET THE COMMISSION KNOW THAT WE ARE WORKING ON IT TO FIX IT AND PER THE CONTRACT -- IT WILL COST US MONEY.

PER THE CONTRACT WE HAD 19,000 YEARLY INSPECTIONS AND REPAIRS AS NEEDED.

FOR REPLACING PANELS WE HAVE YEARLY UP TO $68,000 BUDGETED TO REPLACE THEM.

THIS IS NOT GOING TO GET CLOSE TO ANY OF THOSE NUMBERS, BUT IT WILL COST

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THE PUBLIC ARTS TO PAY FOR ANY REPAIR AND REPLACING OF THE PANELS.

>> AND WE'RE PAYING GOLDEN VOICE TO DO THIS?

>> YES BECAUSE THE STAFF AND THE EQUIPMENT AND EVERYTHING IS COMING FROM GOLDEN VOICE.

>> I CANNOT BELIEVE WE ARE GIVING GOLDEN VOICE MONEY FOR SOMETHING THEY SHOULD BE DOING AS A COMMUNITY SERVICE.

>> AGAIN, IT IS PART OF THE CONTRACT.

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT.

>> IT'S A DONE DEAL.

IT WAS PART OF THE CONTRACT, AND RIGHT NOW THE FALLING PIECES ARE PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERNS AND WE WANTED TO GO THERE AND INSPECT IT AND GET IT DONE.

BUT AGAIN, IT IS THE COST WE NEED TO PAY EVERY TIME THAT HAPPENS.

>> IT SHOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED SO EARLY.

>> YEAH.

IT IS PLYWOOD, SO WITH THE HEAT AND THE RAIN, AS YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE CRACKS.

SO WHEN THE CRACKS GET BIGGER THEY WON'T BE -- >> I KNOW ALL THAT.

I UNDERSTAND ALL THAT.

I'M GOING BACK TO MY ORIGINAL GRIPE.

THIS PROJECT WAS APPROVED WITHOUT -- BEFORE IT WAS EVEN MENTIONED TO THIS COMMISSION, AND GOLDEN VOICE, PLYWOOD IN THE DESERT DOES NOT LAST, AND IT SHOULD NOT BEFALLING APART SO QUICKLY.

THE IDEA OF PAYING GOLDEN VOICE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FOR SOMETHING THEY SHOULD BE DOING AS A COMMUNITY SERVICE, I DON'T LIKE IT.

>> I UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY.

THAT WILL CONCLUDE THE STAFF COMMENTS.

>> NO OTHER COMMENTS? WELL, THEN I GUESS AT 6:17 WE WILL ADJOURN.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.