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SO I WILL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE MEETING.

[1. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL]

[00:00:04]

I CALL THE INDIO PUBLIC ART COMMISSION ON AUGUST 11, AT 5:30.

ROLL CALL.

>> CHAIR PERSON BECERRA.

>> HERE.

>> VICE CHAIR BUCK IS ABSENT.

COMMISSIONER SCHINSKY.

>> HERE.

>> COMMISSIONER NEUMEYER.

>> HERE.

>> COMMISSIONER CRUZ.

>> HERE.

>> WOULD YOU LIKE TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE?

>> OKAY.

EVERYBODY READY? DO WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS TODAY?

>> WE DO NOT.

>> OKAY, IF WE DON'T HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS.

DO WE HAVE MINUTES OF OUR LAST MEETING TO APPROVE?

>> NO.

>> OKAY, THAT MEANS WE DON'T HAVE ACTION ITEMS AND MOVE ON TO ITEM 6, 6.1 PROJECT UPDATE.

>> OKAY, SO I -- AM I, SO I KIND OF LUMPED THEM TOGETHER BECAUSE THERE IS

[6.1 Project Updates]

NOT A LOT OF MOVEMENT ON INDIVIDUAL ONE BUT ON A VARIETY OF AREAS.

I WILL START WITH THE WATER TOWER.

WE KNOW IT'S BEEN BACK AND FORTH GETTING IT REPAIRED.

AND DUE TO THE HEAT OF COURSE WE HAVE TAKEN IT DOWN.

AND I THINK WE WILL MAINTAIN A SCHEDULE OF, I THINK IT'S FROM MAY OR JUNE, AND THEN PUTTING IT BACK UP IN OCTOBER.

I THINK WE ARE JUST GOING TO TRY TO SCHEDULE THAT OUT SO WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE TEMPERATURE STARTS ESCALATING.

AND SO IT'S TAKEN DOWN AND SCHEDULING WITH LANDSCAPING TO COME OUT IN OCTOBER, AND STILL LOOKING AT THE DATES.

AND DEPENDING ON AVAILABILITY OF EVERYTHING THAT IS HAPPENING NOW TO COME HERE AND DO IT.

BUT THEY ARE READY AND WILLING.

AND ONCE THE TEMPERATURE IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE EQUIPMENT TO BE OUTSIDE.

THEY WILL COME AND DO AN ENTIRE FIX EVERYTHING AND RECALIBRATE AND NEW MATERIAL THEY ARE GOING TO ADD TO THE SHOW.

THAT'S ONE.

STAR BALCADE IS ON DEFINITE HOLD UNTIL GOLDEN BOYS DETERMINES THEY WILL DO THE SUMMER FESTIVAL.

BECAUSE WE REQUIRED THEIR CREW AS CONTRACTORS TO INSTALL THE ART WORK.

RIGHT NOW THEY ARE JUST PREPARING JUST A LETTER TO THE CITY FOR US TO KEEP YOU AS A COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGER INFORMED ABOUT THE FACT THAT IT'S DELAYED AND FOR THE DELAY AND WHEN THEY PLAN STARTING AGAIN.

WHICH I AM SURE WILL BE TBD.

ELATION.

SO AFTER WE DETERMINE THAT ELATION WAS GOING -- AM I GOING TOO FAST? ANYONE WITH INTERJECTIONS OR QUESTIONS THUS FAR? OKAY, SO AFTER WE VOTED TO THE ELATION IT WENT TO CITY COUNCIL AND IT WAS APPROVED FOR THAT SUCCESSION MEASURE.

I WORKED WITH THE CITY TO CREATE THE LETTER TO SEND TO -- [INAUDIBLE] AND OFFERING THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO SALVAGE THE WORK.

THE 30 DAYS HAVE ELAPSED AS OF AUGUST 5.

AND SO THEREFORE I ASSUME THAT THEY FORFEIT THE OPPORTUNITY TO SALVAGE THE WORK AT THEIR EXPENSE.

SO WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH PUBLIC WORKS TO REMOVE THE WORK.

IF PUBLIC WORKS IS REMOVING IT IT'S NOT KEPT IN ANY SORT OF FORM.

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THEY WILL DO WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO TO GET IT OUT OF THE GROUND.

AND WE ARE -- I THINK WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO [INAUDIBLE].

SO ONCE WE HAVE THAT MATERIAL AVAILABLE, JUST TO MAKE IT EQUITABLE TO EVERYONE.

WE HAVE TO -- I WILL LET YOU GUYS KNOW IN THE COMMISSION, AND POST IT ON THE CITY WEBSITE AND ON OUR FACEBOOK PAGE.

SO THAT I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE FIRST-COME/FIRST-SERVE BASIS OR ANYONE CAN HAVE.

WE KIND OF HAVE TO ORGANIZE THAT BASED ON, I DON'T KNOW, HOW THE PIECES, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AFTER IT'S BEEN TAKEN OUT.

I KNOW THAT PUBLIC WORKS DOES HAVE A RECEPTACLE AT THE CORPORATE YARD.

SO I IMAGINE WE HAVE TO KIND OF SCHEDULE, IF SOMEONE SAYS THEY DO WANT IT, WE HAVE TO SCHEDULE FOR THEM TO COME AND CLAIM IT.

SO WE HAVE TO PUT SOME OF THOSE THINGS IN PLACE.

RIGHT NOW WE ARE AT THE STEP OF GETTING THE ART WORK DE-ESCALATIONED.

THE MURALS, SO WE SENT OUT THE LETTERS AND THE CONTRACT WITH A RETURN ENVELOPE ATTACHED.

TO ALL OF THE LANDOWNERS.

OR BUILDING OWNERS I SHOULD SAY.

AND WE DIDN'T REALLY GIVE A SIGN-BY DATE.

BUT WE'RE EXPECTING THAT THEY WILL SIGN IT AND SEND IT BACK.

ONE OF THEM DID CONTACT ME FOR CLARIFICATION ON THE CONTRACT.

WHICH I PROVIDED.

SO AT THIS POINT I'M SURE THEY HAVE RECEIVED IT.

AND SO I SUPPOSE I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK IN AT THE OFFICE, SEEING THAT I DID GET A CALL TODAY.

TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE LETTERS THERE.

SO FAR I AM NOT AWARE OF ANY LETTERS RETURNING.

AND ONCE THOSE ARE APPROVED WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GO AHEAD WITH THE SECOND STEP.

NOW THE -- CONSERVATOR, RFP, THAT HAS NOT BEEN YET PUBLISHED.

WE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT AN ELECTRONIC MECHANISM FOR PEOPLE TO SEND ALL OF THEIR MATERIALS TO ARCHIVE IT.

AND THAT MAY LEAD INTO MAYBE THE NEXT ITEM.

PERHAPS -- YES.

SO THOSE ARE ALL THE UPDATES I HAVE SPECIFIC TO THESE DIFFERENT PROJECTS.

AT THIS TIME.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

>> SO WE'RE JUST WAITING ON BUILDING OWNERS TO SIGN THEIR CONTRACTS AND THEN ARE THOSE MURALS THAT REALLY NEED THE DAY MURAL, THE ONE THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN AWAY.

ARE WE WAITING FOR THE CONSERVATOR TO LOOK AT THAT OR THE BUILDING OWNER TO SIGN THE CONTRACT?

>> WE CAN'T DO EITHER UNTIL THEY SIGN A CONTRACT, TO TOUCH THEIR WALL.

I MEAN THE POINT I THINK GETTING THE CONSERVATOR, WE NEED THE EXPERTISE BUT ALSO THINK TO REALLY -- IT GIVES US, I DON'T WANT TO SAY IT GIVES US COVER.

BUT ALLOWS FOR A THIRD PARTY THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY STAKE IN THE GAME TO MAKE AN ASSESSMENT.

SO THAT -- I KNOW THAT SOME PEOPLE REALLY WANT THE MURALS TO BE FIXED.

AND FROM MY POINT OF VIEW AND MY LIMITED EXPERTISE, SOME OF THEM CANNOT BE FIXED.

SOME OF THEM ARE TOO FAR GONE.

I THINK SOME OF THEM -- SOME OF THEM WE WOULD NEED A PROFESSIONAL TO TELL US HOW TO FIX IT.

AND OTHERS IT'S PRETTY CLEAR.

BUT I THINK WE JUST REALLY WANT TO, WITH THE PROCESS AND REESTABLISH OURSELVES AND HAVE SOMEONE CHECK IT OUT.

SO -- >> NO, I THINK YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT TO HAVE A PROFESSIONAL CONSERVATOR TO LOOK AT THE OBJECTS AND TELL US YES THIS CAN BE SAVED OR NOT THIS CANNOT AND THAT MAKES A WORLD OF DIFFERENCE.

>> YEAH AND WE DON'T LIKE THAT MURAL AND WE TOOK IT DOWN [INAUDIBLE].

>> NO, IT HAS TO BE DETERMINED BY SOMEONE WHO KNOWS CONSERVATION.

>> RIGHT.

RIGHT AND I THINK ALSO TOO FOR THE ONES THAT CAN BE SAVED THAT ARE STILL IN FAIRLY GOOD CONDITION, THEY ARE ABLE TO MAKE THE DETERMINATIONS OF HOW WE CAN

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KEEP THEM IN GOOD SHAPE FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME.

AND RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT CONSERVATION OR WOULD BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THE ARTISTS OR PROVIDE SOME GUIDANCE OF HOW WE KEEP THEM IN DECENT SHAPE.

AND WHEN WE CAN CONSIDER THE CONCESSION.

>> DO WE HAVE A BALLPARK TIME FRAME WHEN WE CAN START GETTING INFORMATION OR AT LEAST PROPOSALS FROM CONSERVATORS?

>> SO I WAS SEND IT OUT, THE DRAFT THAT YOU GUYS HAD TO GO THROUGH LEGAL REVIEW.

AND SO I WAS READY TO SEND IT OUT BUT THE PACKAGE THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO SEND US IS KIND OF LARGE.

SO I THOUGHT THAT I WOULD JUST BE ABLE TO USE DROP BOX OR SOMETHING.

BUT THAT WOULD KIND OF KEEP THE INFORMATION OPEN.

FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO LOOK AT IT.

SO I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH I.T.

TO CREATE A PORTAL AND A SYSTEM, THAT'S KIND OF GOING INTO THE NEXT ITEM.

THAT WE CAN USE FOR ALL OF OUR SUBMISSION NEEDS.

THAT CAN CAPTURE AND CAN ARCHIVE AND STILL BE PRIVATE.

ONCE THE PERSON SENDS IT SO THAT OTHER PEOPLE CAN'T GO THROUGH AND LOOK AT THEIR SUBMISSION.

SO RIGHT NOW MATT LEVY AND I ARE KIND OF CREATING THE FORM.

HE'S BUILDING IT FOR ME.

AND THEN ONCE IT GOES LIVE, I WOULD HAVE TO PUT THAT LINK INTO THE RFP THAT I SEND OUT.

AND ONCE WE HAVE THAT, WE'RE GOOD TO GO.

>> BUT YOU HAVE NO CONCEPT OF TIME YET? I MEAN IS IT A WEEK? IS IT A MONTH? OR WHAT?

>> I WOULD SAY WE COULD HAVE THAT TOGETHER IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.

SO HOPEFULLY -- SO HOPEFULLY IN TWO WEEKS AND [INAUDIBLE] YOU KNOW.

>> IS IT SAFE TO SAY SEPTEMBER?

>> YES.

>> OKAY.

>> BY SEPTEMBER WE SHOULD HAVE THOSE TO LOOK AT TO DETERMINE WHO WE WANT TO WORK WITH.

>> OKAY.

>> SO THAT'S KIND OF MY NEXT ITEM.

>> IF WE DON'T HAVE ANYMORE QUESTIONS WE CAN GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO ELECTRONIC

[6.2 Electronic Submission Update]

SUBMISSION UPDATE.

>> THAT'S WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT.

ALSO, SO THIS AGAIN, SO I WAS LOOKING AT DIFFERENT COMPANIES THAT PROVIDE THE SERVICE.

I'M SURE YOU GUYS MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH SUBMITABLE.

THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE AND WOULD HAVE BEEN AN ONGOING COST, LIKE A MONTHLY FEE TO STORE THAT INFORMATION.

I WANTED TO SEE THE CITY ANNUALS AND IF THOSE MECHANISMS. AND FROM MY UNDERSTANDING IT'S A DIFFERENT BALL GAME AND IT'S A NO.

AND WHAT I DETERMINED THAT HE WOULD HELP BUILD THIS SORT OF FORM FOR ME.

AND IT WOULD KIND OF CUSTOMIZE IT FOR MY NEEDS.

AND I BELIEVE THAT THEY WOULD STILL COME TO MY INBOX.

I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE HOW BECAUSE IT'S MORE OF AN I.T.

REALM.

BUT I TOLD THEM WHAT THE NEEDS ARE THAT I HAVE AND HE SAID THAT HE COULD HELP ME CREATE THAT PORTAL WITHOUT AN EXPENDITURE OF A MONTHLY CHARGE TO AN OUTSIDE COMPANY TO HOLD THAT INFORMATION FOR US.

BECAUSE I MEAN WE DON'T DO THAT MANY FOR IT TO BE WORTH THE MONTHLY COST.

WHERE IT COMES TO THE RFP'S AND FOR THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL BOX SUBMISSIONS.

IF WE CAN JUST CREATE ALL OF THAT, IT WOULD JUST MAKE LIFE EASIER FOR THE SUBMITTER AND FOR US TO GET THE SUBMISSIONS, ARCHIVE THEM AND HAVE THEM PARCELED OUT FOR REVIEW.

FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU GUYS HAVE TO REVIEW SOMETHING AND IT MAKES ALL EASIER TO DO THAT.

SO -- WE ARE WORKING ON THAT RIGHT NOW.

I THINK JUST COMING TO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO USE AND WHAT THE COST WOULD BE AND WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE WAS KIND OF A CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD TO GO THROUGH.

AND ONE THAT HAD TO DO [INAUDIBLE].

NOW THAT WE HAVE JUST DETERMINED THAT MATT IS GOING TO HELP US BUILD THE

[00:15:03]

FORMS.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION.

>> YEAH.

>> SO ARE YOU TRYING TO FIND LIKE ONLINE SERVICE OR SOFTWARE, OR WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO FIND FOR THE SUBMITTALS?

>> FOR THE DIFFERENT PIECES OF INFORMATION AND FOR EXAMPLE, FOR THE CONSERVATORS THEY HAVE TO SEND ME.

I DIDN'T WANT IT GETTING LOST AND MIXED UP IN MY INBOX.

AND THE SIZE MIGHT BE TOO BIG AND SEND IN DIFFERENT PIECES AND THAT'S A RECIPE OF DISASTER.

THE ONLY ONE I AM FAMILIAR WITH IS SUBMITABLE AND TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO UPLOAD VIDEOS AND SCHEMATICS AND ALL SORTS OF THINGS.

AND WHEN I FIRST ARRIVED ON THE BACK BURNER AND THE NUMBER OF SUBMISSIONS IS A DIFFERENT PRICE AND WOULD BE A MONTHLY COST.

SO I WAS KIND OF THROWING IT OUT IN CASE ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT.

I KNOW FOR THE CITY IT COULD BE DIFFERENT, CONTRACTING WITH THEM WOULD BE DIFFERENT.

AND YOU KNOW I'M LIKE IF PEOPLE NEED TO SUBMIT ELECTRONICALLY, WHICH PEOPLE ARE DOING MORE AND MORE OF RIGHT NOW.

THEN WE NEED TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING.

SO I TRIED TO SEE IF I COULD USE WHAT THEY ARE USING FOR [INAUDIBLE] AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

>> I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST SOMETHING.

>> OKAY.

>> MAYBE KEVIN YOU KNOW THIS, DOES THE CITY USE PRO-CORE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? HAVE YOU HEARD OF THAT SOFTWARE?

>> I HAVE HEARD OF IT BUT WE DON'T USE IT.

>> I USE IT IN CONSTRUCTION ALL THE TIME AND SOME CITIES ARE ON IT.

AND IT'S SOMETHING WHERE YOU DO SUBMITTALS AND YOU CAN DO BID SUBMITTALS AND REQUESTS FOR QUALIFICATIONS.

ALL THE SAME STUFF THAT YOU DO IN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY AND KIND OF OVERLAPS WITH SOME PUBLIC ART STUFF AND MAYBE THE CITY IS FAMILIAR WITH THAT, CALLED PRO-CORE.

I HAVE USED IT IN CONSTRUCTION OVER A DECADE.

>> IS IT A COMMON THING LIKE MOST PEOPLE USE?

>> YEAH, LARGE CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES AND FIRMS USE IT.

I THINK THERE IS A FEW CITIES ON IT.

IT'S USUALLY HANDLED FROM A GENERAL CONTRACTOR CONSTRUCTION POINT.

BUT THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING LIKE IT OR THE CITY MIGHT BE ABLE TO ADAPT THAT TO SAY PLANNING USES.

ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE GOING OUT FOR BIDS.

>> YEAH, BECAUSE I KNOW SUBMITTAL IS FOR ARTS AND ARTS RELATED THINGS.

I WAS LIKE, CAN WE -- I FEEL LIKE MAYBE BECAUSE I AM THE ONLY ONE USING IT, IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE.

BUT I MEAN -- MATT JUST KIND OF [INAUDIBLE] WITH OUR VIDEO HERE.

I HAVE ANOTHER CHAT WITH HIM LATER ON THIS WEEK.

SO I'LL THROW IT OUT.

BUT YOU KNOW IF FOR NOW, FOR US TO GO THROUGH THIS PERIOD, YOU KNOW HE CAN DO WHAT HE RECOMMENDED.

THEN I'LL GO WITH THE THING THAT WORKS FOR NOW.

AND IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT ON,ON-GOING BASIS.

AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ROLLING SUBMISSIONS FOR ALL SORTS OF THINGS AND NOT A ONE AND DONE.

I THINK STORING AND ARCHIVING IS ONE OF THE THINGS I AM MOST CONCERNED WITH.

WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN RECORDS FOR A SPECIFIC PERIOD OF TIME.

AND IF WE DECIDE THAT WE WANT TO STOP USING THIS COMPANY AND WHAT HAPPENS TO THE ARCHIVES AND THAT KINDS OF STUFF.

THAT'S JUST WHERE I AM AT WITH THAT.

>> AND I WOULD SAY, DEBRA MENTIONED MATTHEW.

MATTHEW WHEN WE WENT FOR OUR COVID RESPONSE AND HAD TO MOVE OUR BUILDING AND PLANNING APPLICATIONS ONLINE.

HE DID BUILD A CITY-SPECIFIC SYSTEM THAT DOES A LOT THAT IS BEING TALKED ABOUT.

I'M GOING TO ASSUME THAT HE'S LOOKING AT A SIMILAR PLATFORM.

BUT I THINK WE CAN DEFINITELY SHARE THESE IDEAS WITH HIM.

AND IF THERE IS SOMETHING BETTER OUT THERE THAT IS MORE EFFICIENT.

AND NO HARM LOOKING IF IT SAVES STAFF TIME.

HE DOES SPEND TIME MANAGING THAT PROPRIETARY SYSTEM WE BUILT.

IF MORE EFFICIENT, I AM ALL FOR THE EFFICIENCY.

>> YEAH, AND ALSO CHEAPNESS.

>> IF NOTHING MORE TO DISCUSS WITH OUR ELECTRONIC SUBMISSION UPDATE? OKAY, GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO 6.3, STRATEGIC PLANNING DISCUSSION.

>> OKAY.

I AM A GLUTTON FOR PUNISHMENT AND THAT MIGHT BE SO.

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FIRST OF ALL, WOULD I BE ABLE TO SHARE MY SCREEN?

[6.3 Strategic Planning Discussion]

>> YES.

>> IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SCREEN YOU SHOULD SEE A GREEN ARROW, THAT SAYS, SHARE SCREEN.

CENTER TAB.

>> LOOKING FOR THAT -- OKAY, CAN YOU SEE MY SCREEN? OKAY, SO I KNOW WE HAVE BEEN GOING THROUGH THIS AND INTERESTING BECAUSE I AM TALKING ABOUT SOMEONE GOING THROUGH THIS AND THEY ARE ON THE AIR ON THEIR STRATEGIC PLAN.

AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT TAKES TIME AND WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH AND I AM WORKING WITH.

AND AM TAKING COURSES AT U-PENN ON STRATEGIC -- WHAT IS IT CALLED -- ANYWAY, TAKING COURSES THERE THAT KIND OF FOCUS ON CULTURE AND STRATEGY AND LEARNING AND SORT OF LOOKING, EDITING WHAT WE ARE DOING.

AND ONE OF MY PROFESSORS ALWAYS SAID THAT TIME IS THE BEST EDITING TOOL.

AND TO HAVE SOME TIME AWAY FROM THIS AND CAN GIVE US A FRESH EYE TO LOOK AT IT.

I KNOW THAT WE HAVE COME UP WITH OUR VISION STATEMENT THAT IS CURRENTLY ON THE SCREEN.

AND OUR MISSION STATEMENT.

HERE.

THAT HAS BEEN, I HAVE TINKERED WITH IT TO MAKE IT MORE COHERENT.

AND IT IS ALREADY IN OUR GUIDELINES THAT WE CAME UP WITH OUR TRAFFIC SIGNAL BOX PROGRAM.

AND SO THE NEXT STEP THAT I KNOW THAT WE FOLLOWED WAS THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROBLEM.

AND I KIND OF WORKING WITH EACH OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY ON THE CONSTRUCTING THAT PROBLEM.

WE DID OUR PRIORITIZATION WHERE YOU PRIORITIZE THESE AND WE RANKED THEM AND WENT THROUGH THAT LAST EXCRUCIATING SESSION THAT WE HAD.

AND I WANTED TO REFRESH YOUR MEMORY ON HOW WE WENT THROUGH THAT.

WE LOOKED FOR ARTISTIC IMPACT AND ART OFFERINGS AND ART COMMUNITY.

WE LOOKED FOR COMMUNITY IMPACT AND INTERNAL IMPACT.

MEANING HOW WE WOULD ACCOMPLISH WHAT WE WOULD LIKE WORKING WITH THE CITY AND CITY GOVERNMENT AND OTHER STAFF.

SO I THINK LOOKING AT THOSE, I KNOW THAT THE LAST TIME WE PULLED OUT ABOUT SEVEN OF THOSE STATEMENTS.

AND LOOKING AT THEM AFTER A PERIOD OF TIME, I FELT LIKE THEY WERE ALL KINDS OF SIMILAR THINGS.

AND IT WASN'T REALLY GOING TO BE ENOUGH FOR US TO USE TO CREATE THAT RUBRIC THAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.

AND SO TO STILL USE THOSE STATEMENTS FOR THE REAL PURPOSE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO FIND.

I REALIZED AND LEARNED THAT WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT HOW THOSE STATEMENTS CAN ARTICULATE OUR VALUES.

AND SO I KNOW THAT CC AND I HAD A FEW SKYPE SESSIONS GETTING HER INPUT BECAUSE SHE WASN'T A PART OF THE ORIGINAL -- FANTASTIC FIVE.

AND SHE AND I DID A COUPLE OF SESSIONS.

AND AS IT WAS WITH EACH OF YOU REALLY INFORMATIVE AND WE GOT A LOT OF REALLY GOOD INFORMATION OUT OF IT.

I WANTED TO BE ABLE TO USE THAT INFORMATION TO HELP US OUT.

SO I GUESS AT THIS POINT WHAT I HAVE DONE WITH THAT INFORMATION IS THAT I HAVE PUT IT FOUR VALUES.

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WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT OUR VALUES ARE.

I THINK THAT EACH OF THESE THAT WE CAME UP AFTER THAT HOUR, TWO-HOUR SESSION THAT I SAT WITH YOU AND DID.

WE CAME UP WITH GOOD STATEMENTS THERE.

AND SO IT IS A MATTER OF WHAT OUR VALUES ARE.

AND WHEN WE DESCRIBE VALUES IN THIS WAY, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IT BEING ROOTED IN THE MISSION THAT WE HAVE.

THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.

AND MOVING FORWARD TO VISION, WHICH IS THE ASPIRATIONAL PART.

HOW ARE WE DOING THAT.

SO ONE -- SO AGAIN WHAT VALUES ARE ESSENTIALLY IS THAT THEY INFORM AND CONSTRAIN STRATEGIES THAT YOU CHOOSE TO ACHIEVE YOUR STRATEGIC GOALS.

THEY PLACE KIND OF CONFINEMENT OF GUARDRAILS ON YOUR PLAN.

AND I THINK WE ARE MOVING TO WHAT IS CREATING THAT PLAN.

BUT WE DO NEED TO HAVE THAT RUBRIC, THAT CONFINE THAT TELLS US THESE ARE THE THINGS WITHIN OUR WHEEL HOUSE.

THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE ARE INTERESTED IN, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY OVER AND HOW WE PRIORITIZE THOSE THINGS.

ONE OF THE -- ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS REALLY EVIDENT WAS THAT IF STRATEGIES DEVELOP WITHOUT REGARDS TO THESE VALUES.

SURE, CAN YOU GET THINGS DONE? YES, YOU CAN.

BUT THEN YOU END UP RISKING YOUR INTEGRITY OF EXACTLY WHAT YOUR PROGRAM IS FOR.

AND IN OUR CASE TO AN EXTENT CREATING CONFUSION IN THE ORGANIZATION WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE FULFILLING OUR RESPONSIBILITIES.

AND TO WHAT EXTENT WE ARE FULFILLING THEM.

THIS IS REALLY FOR US AND EVERYONE ELSE THAT WE ARE ACCOUNTABLE TO.

THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE VALUE FOR AND THEREFORE WHEN WE CREATE OUR STRATEGIES FROM THAT.

WE CAN EASILY DRAW A LINE FROM OUR ACTIVITIES AND TO VALUE AND MISSION AND EVERYONE IS PLAYING ON THE SAME PAGE.

AND WHEN WE ARE DOING THINGS THAT ARE A GOOD THING AND KEEP US ON TRACK.

WHAT I DID WITH ALL OF THESE STATEMENTS.

ALTOGETHER THERE WERE 84 STATEMENTS.

I RECEIVED FROM EACH OF YOU.

AND WHAT I DID WAS I NEED TO KIND OF SEE WHAT IT IS.

AND SO I PUT IT INTO ONE OF THOSE FORMS THAT WE LOVE.

AND THIS IS WHAT I SAW.

YOU KNOW I KIND OF FILLED IT OUT, SOME OF THE NONESSENTIAL WORDS SO IT CAN MAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE SENSE.

AND ONE OF THE WORDS I WAS GOING TO TAKE OUT WAS THE WORD "MORE", BECAUSE YOU SEE HOW LARGE THAT LOOMS IN ALL THE STATEMENTS THAT I RECEIVED FROM YOU GUYS.

BUT I DIDN'T TAKE THAT OUT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S REALLY CLEAR THAT IT MEANS THAT THERE IS A DESIRE TO SEE INCREASE IN OUR ACTIVITY.

AND SO I LEFT IT IN JUST BECAUSE LIKE MORE, THAT'S IMPORTANT.

AND COMMUNITY CAME OUT AS A HUGE INDICATOR AND AS YOU LOOK AROUND YOU SEE ARTISTS LOOMING BIG.

I TOOK OUT ART BECAUSE IT WAS TAKING UP THE ENTIRE THING IT'S ART COMMISSION.

AND WE SEE THE WORD ORGANIC AND CREATE AND CULTURE AND EDUCATE AND SUPPORT.

AND JUST LOOKING AT THIS, I MEAN THIS IS SORT OF A MIND JUMBLE BUT IT SHOWS YOU THE THINGS THAT POP OUT.

RIGHT.

THAT WAS A THREAD IN ALL OF YOUR STATEMENTS.

SO THEN WHAT I DECIDED TO DO WAS TO CODE THE -- EACH OF THESE SENTENCES MYSELF FOR A KIND OF COMMON THEME TO SEE WHAT EMERGED AND WHAT THIS COMMISSION FELT WAS VALUABLE.

AND SO HERE IT WAS OVER 1,000 WORDS AND 84 STATEMENTS.

AND CODED THEM.

SO I READ THE STATEMENT AND I PUT A DASH EVERY TIME THE THEME THAT EMERGED.

AND THE NUMBER OF DASHES THAT CAME UP AND SOME SENTENCES HAD MULTIPLE INDICATORS AND SOME HAD ONE.

SO WHAT I DETERMINED FROM THERE IS ACCESSIBILITY AND CONNECTION AND I KNOW THEY HAVE ASTERISKS AND TELL YOU WHAT THAT MEANS.

THEY CAME OUT ON TOP.

AND ACCESSIBILITY AND CONNECTION, OPPORTUNITY, EDUCATION, COMMUNITY, BEST PRACTICES, TRANSPARENCY, RESOURCES, SUSTAINABILITY, ENTREPRENEURSHIP, QUALITY

[00:30:05]

AND AESTHETICS.

THIS IS SORT OF THE BREAKDOWN OF WHAT WAS MOST IMPORTANT TO YOU ALL THAT YOU FELT NEEDED TO BE STATED.

WHEN IT COMES TO ACCESSIBILITY, I SORT OF CONSOLIDATED, REPRESENTATION AND ACCESSIBILITY.

AND FOR CONNECTION, ANYTHING THAT SAID ENGAGEMENT, AND COLLABORATION.

ONE WAS BOND THAT CAME UP A COUPLE OF TIMES.

I PUT INTO CONNECTION.

COMMUNITY WAS THERE A LOT.

SO I PUT THAT AS ITS OWN CATEGORY.

SO SORT OF LOOKING HERE AT WHAT EMERGED FROM ALL OF THAT RANDOM THAT WE ALL DID.

THIS IS WHAT COMES OUT OF THERE.

SO I GUESS BEFORE I SORT OF GO INTO WHAT I THINK COMES NEXT, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY SORT OF REACTION TO WHAT YOU ARE SEEING? DOES THIS MAKE SENSE? DOES IT SEEM WEIRD? ANYTHING?

>> AS SURPRISING AS IT IS TO ME, IT DOES MAKE SENSE IN A WAY AS FAR AS IN GENERALITIES PUBLIC ART IS THAT AESTHETICS ONLY HAS THREE.

AND AESTHETICS, YOU KNOW, SHOULD BE LIKE TOP.

BUT -- FOR PUBLIC ART MOST OF IT IS PRETTY MEDIOCRE.

>> WELL, THE THING IS, WHAT I GLEANED FROM THAT, BECAUSE I WAS -- I DIDN'T GO IN WITH EXPECTATIONS BECAUSE THAT CAN SKEW RESULTS.

I WAS SURPRISED THAT I DIDN'T SEE IT COME UP MORE.

THERE WAS [INAUDIBLE] STATEMENT THAT WAS EXPLICIT.

AND I THINK IT'S ALSO KIND OF EXPECTED.

EACH OF US KNEW WE WERE TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC ART.

SO FOR ME I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S UNIMPORTANT.

BUT I THINK THE CONNECTION TO THE WORK AS THAT CAME UP HIGHER AND HOW PEOPLE CAN ENGAGE WITH IT.

NOT THAT THINGS DON'T NEED AESTHETIC QUALITY.

BUT I THINK WHAT YOU GUYS SORT OF DETERMINED WAS THAT IT NEEDED TO HAVE MORE THAN THAT.

>> WELL NO, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.

BUT I THINK WHEN ACCESSIBILITY IS NUMBER ONE BECAUSE ALMOST EVERY PUBLIC ART PROGRAM THAT I EVER DEALT WITH ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

EVERYONE IS TERRIFIED WHAT THE PUBLIC IS GOING TO SAY IF THEY PUT SOMETHING IN THAT IS SO GOOD THAT NO ONE IS GOING TO UNDERSTAND IT UNLESS THEY ARE AN ART-ORIENTED PERSON.

SO YOU KNOW -- THEY PUT IN YOU KNOW THOSE THINGS THAT THE GENERAL PUBLIC WILL ACCEPT AND RELATE TO AND BE COMFORTABLE WITH.

AND IT DOESN'T MEAN UNFORTUNATELY DOESN'T HAVE TO BE BAD QUALITY OR HAVE BAD AESTHETICS BUT OFTEN TIMES THEY DO.

BECAUSE NO ONE WANTS TO BE CATCH A RASH OF SHIT FROM THE PUBLIC SAYING YOU SPENT OUR MONEY ON THIS AND THAT'S PART OF THE REASON.

>> I THINK LISTEN, WHEN WE ENGAGE IN THIS AND WE EXPECT A CERTAIN LEVEL OF QUALITY AND A CERTAIN LEVEL OF BEST PRACTICES; RIGHT.

I FEEL ONCE WE ENGAGE IN BEST PRACTICES, AND YOU KNOW THEN I THINK THAT QUALITY IS EMERGING FROM THERE.

AND AGAIN IF WE TALK ABOUT WHAT OUR VALUES ARE, THAT WOULD BE THE PARAMETER THAT WE USE.

AND SO I DON'T THINK IT MEANS THAT WE NEED TO SACRIFICE THOSE THINGS.

BUT I THINK THE PURPOSE, MUNICIPAL ART SHOULD SERVE MUNICIPAL GOALS.

THAT'S WHAT I FEEL.

IF PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR CONNECTION WE CAN STILL GIVE THEM QUALITY ART.

>> YEAH, WE CAN, IF WE WERE ALLOWED TO.

>> YES.

TRUST ME, I UNDERSTAND THAT AND I THINK WHEN I WAS SPEAKING WITH VENESSA ABOUT THIS PROCESS I WAS USING.

AND I WAS TELLING HER IN THE PAST WHEN I WAS DOING THE SHOWS I HAD FEAR THAT

[00:35:01]

PEOPLE WOULD GO -- WHAT IS THAT, THAT'S CRAZY.

BUT I THINK IT'S ALSO OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS THE PEOPLE CHARGED WITH, YOU KNOW, DOING THE ART FOR THE COMMUNITY IS TO KIND OF TEACH THE COMMUNITY ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS.

AND THEY MAY NOT BE FAMILIAR WITH.

WHY WOULD THEY, THEY ARE NOT PROFESSIONALS IN ART.

WE ARE.

AND IT'S NOT SHOVING IT DOWN THEIR THROAT AND THAT THEIR OPINION DOESN'T MATTER.

BUT WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO THE FUNDS THAT WE ARE SPENDING AND TO THE ARTISTS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND THE REPUTATION OF OUR COMMUNITY TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE PUTTING HIGH-QUALITY ART AND TRYING TO BRING PEOPLE ALONG AS WE DO THE WORK.

SO WHEN -- AGAIN WHEN ACCESSIBILITY, SO WITHIN THAT ASTERISK IT DOES INCLUDE, IT SAYS ACCESSIBILITY, IT SAYS EQUITY AND REPRESENTATION.

SO I THINK -- SO THE SECOND PART OF OUR ACTIVITY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BREAK IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO CHIME IN ON ANYTHING THAT SORT OF CATCHES THEIR EYE IN THIS BREAKDOWN?

>> WELL, YOU KNOW IT ALSO OCCURS TO ME THAT THIS WHOLE PROCESS THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH IS ESTABLISHED.

WE'RE WRITING THE GUIDELINES THAT SUPPOSEDLY WE EXPECT OR THE CITY EXPECTS FUTURE COMMISSIONERS TO ADAPT.

AND TO ADOPT.

THAT MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE TRUE.

>> ESPECIALLY, IT'S SOMETHING THEY KNOW, AND IN THESE LAST COURSES STRATEGIC PLANNING IS KIND OF CREATING A FRAMEWORK.

SO IN 10 YEARS THESE MAY NOT BE THE ISSUES FACING THE COMMISSION AT THAT TIME.

IT MAY NOT BE THE ISSUES FACING THE CITY AT THAT TIME.

AS WE MOVE ALONG AND AS THE COMMISSION GROWS AND PEOPLE IN AND OUT AND FUNDS GO UP AND DOWN.

AND DIFFERENT THINGS HAPPEN AT OTHER MUNICIPAL ELEMENTS TAKE HOLD.

THE ARTS COMMISSION WILL HAVE TO BE FLEXIBLE AND AGILE TO DO IT.

AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE CORE VALUE IS.

AND SOMETIMES EVEN HAVE TO REVISE SUBMISSION.

THEY MAY TO REVISE THEIR VISION.

BUT FOR OUR NEEDS, FOR US TO OPERATE IN THE FUTURE, WE NEED TO COME UP WITH PARAMETERS FOR OURSELVES.

I GUESS -- SO IF NO ONE ELSE HAS ANY FEELINGS, ANY IDEAS THAT COME UP WITH THIS.

IF THIS LOOKS LIKE AND FEELS LIKE YEAH THE COMMON [INAUDIBLE] WE HAD TOUCH ON THESE ISSUES AND WE CAN JUMP TO THE NEXT PART OF THE ACTIVITY.

SO GENERALLY, LET'S SEE -- 12 IS TOO MANY.

RIGHT, WE CAN'T SAY THESE ARE ALL THE THINGS.

IT'S JUST TOO BIG.

SO THE NEXT ACTIVITY WE HAVE TO CONSOLIDATE THOSE 12 THINGS.

WE HAVE TO DEFINE WHAT DOES COMMUNITY MEAN IN OUR FRAMEWORK? AND THEN WE HAVE TO IDENTIFY WHAT IS CERTAIN BEHAVIORS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS VALUE THAT WE INTEND TO CARRY OUT AS A PART OF OUR PROCESS? AND THAT'S REALLY THE NEXT STEP.

BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY GOING TO BE DEFINING FOR US WHAT'S IMPORTANT.

WHAT IT MEANS.

AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT.

SO I'M GOING TO -- I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN DO IT ALL.

I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO VERY MUCH TODAY.

JUST PROBABLY PLAY WITH SOME EXAMPLES RIGHT NOW.

BUT I HAVE A WORKSHEET THAT LOOKS PRETTY MUCH LIKE THIS.

THAT I AM GOING TO SEND TO YOU GUYS.

AND IT SHOULD TAKE THAT LONG AND YOU CAN SKIP WHAT YOU WANT ON SKIP.

AND SEND IT BACK TO ME AND WE CAN CONSOLIDATE THAT FOR OUR VALUE STATEMENT.

I THINK -- I DID SOME CONSOLIDATION MYSELF JUST WITH ACCESSIBILITY AND CONNECTION.

BECAUSE THE MARKS KIND OF CAME IN THE SAME SENTENCES.

IT WAS LIKE ACCESSIBILITY AND REPRESENTATION IN DIFFERENT SENTENCES.

THAT'S WHY THERE IS A CONSOLIDATION THERE.

AS WE LOOK AT THIS, YOU KNOW, FOR YOU THINKING ABOUT WE'RE PUBLIC ARTS COMMISSION AND OPERATING IN 2020, HALF OF THE YEAR, BUT NONETHELESS.

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WHICH OF THESE THINGS DO YOU THINK RISE TO THE LEVEL OF IMPORTANCE THAT YOU THINK IS A FOUNDATIONAL VALUE THAT YOU WANT TO PURSUE AS WE GO FORWARD? ANYBODY CAN JUMP IN.

WHAT TOPS THE LIST FOR YOU? I GUESS.

EJ, YOU LOOK LIKE YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING.

>> I DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY KIND OF PROMPT OF WHAT WE ARE WORKING ON.

AND SO I'M JUST PROCESSING, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING AGAIN.

VALUE STATEMENT VERSUS SOMETHING ELSE.

>> SO LET'S NOT MAKE IT VERSUS.

>> WHAT IS THAT?

>> LET'S NOT MAKE IT VERSUS ANYTHING ELSE.

>> I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE IT VERSUS, I AM TRYING TO FIGURE WHAT WE ARE DOING.

THIS ISN'T PART OF AN AGENDA ITEM OR SOMETHING THAT WE WERE GIVEN AHEAD OF TIME BUT IT'S BUZZ WORDS THAT WE ARE WORKING ON.

WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH THIS?

>> SO IT'S -- IT'S NOT SOMETHING TO WORK AHEAD OF TIME IT'S SOMETHING TO WORK ON COLLABORATIVELY AND AFTER.

>> I THINK WHAT EJ IS TRYING TO SAY -- FORGIVE ME EJ IF I AM WRONG.

ARE WE DOING THE STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION RIGHT NOW? BECAUSE IF WE ARE, LIKE EJ, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE TO KNOW.

>> IT WOULD BE NICE TO PREP.

>> BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING TO PREP FOR.

IT'S SOMETHING FOR US TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT.

>> [INAUDIBLE].

>> HOW ARE YOU GOING TO PREP FOR?

>> WHAT IS THAT?

>> HOW ARE YOU PLANNING TO PREP FOR THIS?

>> I DON'T KNOW, GIVE US THE PRESENTATION AHEAD OF TIME AND THAT'S A CONVERSATION TO HAVE AND NOT LOOK AT THIS LIST RIGHT NOW.

>> EJ, THIS IS STUFF THAT DERIVED FROM STUFF WE HAVE BEEN DOING.

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT.

>> I HAVE NEVER BEEN A PART OF ANY STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS WHERE ALL THE INFORMATION WAS GIVEN AHEAD OF TIME.

IT IS A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT NOW.

>> OKAY, SO WE'RE DOING IT -- STRATEGIC PLANNING THING.

WHAT [INAUDIBLE] 1,000 WORDS CODE AND WE GOT A LIST OF WORDS NOW, WHAT ARE WE DOING NEXT?

>> WE'RE GETTING OUR VALUES.

THESE FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND ARE THE VALUES THAT WE CAME UP THROUGH PREVIOUS STRATEGIC PLANNING MEETINGS.

AND NOW WE ARE DISCUSSING HOW WE'RE GOING TO USE OUR VALUES? OR HOW WE ARE GOING TO BE USING THESE AS OUR VALUES TO MOVE FORWARD.

>> I GUESS, I FEEL THIS IS CONCEPT [INAUDIBLE] AND LIKE I HAVE BEEN -- IT DOESN'T MATTER [INAUDIBLE].

>> I'M LOOKING AT THE LIST YOU HAVE HERE AND I CAN HONESTLY SAY THAT THE ONE THING THAT COMES TO MIND THAT YOU ARE TRYING TO ASK FOR ME IS COMMUNITY.

AND I THINK I DISCUSSED THAT WITH YOU WHEN WE DID OUR SESSION.

THAT COMMUNITY FOR ME IS ONE OF THE TOP THINGS.

>> YEAH SO I GUESS -- I'M TRYING TO TAKE THIS AS INCREMENTALLY AS POSSIBLE.

BECAUSE I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO FEEL OVERWHELMED.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MORE I CAN BREAK IT DOWN.

IS THAT -- WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS MOVE FORWARD.

AND COME TO A PLACE OF CONSENSUS.

WHERE WE'RE BUILDING ON THE INFORMATION THAT I HAVE GATHERED FROM YOU.

AND I'M JUST PUTTING IT TOGETHER AS IT GOES ALONG.

SO I DON'T -- I CAN SEND YOU THIS IF YOU NEED TO.

OF COURSE IF YOU WANT TO REVIEW IT AS YOU KIND OF DO THE EXERCISE WORKSHEET I'M GOING TO SEND YOU.

AND IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE.

THESE ARE THE DERIVATIVES LIKE I SAID OF THE -- THAT SHEET THAT I SENT TO YOU THAT I GUYS DID THAT PRIORITIZATION.

WHICH MEANS YOU READ EACH OF THOSE AND YOU LABELED THOSE EXCEPT CC [INAUDIBLE] AND WE LABELED THEM HIGH PRIORITY AND LESS PRIORITY AND WE LOOKED AT THEM IN THE LAST STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION.

I TRIED TO MAKE IT A LITTLE LESS COMPLICATED THAN LOOKING AT 84 DIFFERENT SENTENCES AND TRYING TO PICK OUT THE ONES THAT YOU GUYS FEEL ARE RELEVANT.

INSTEAD OF JUST PUTTING IT INTO WORDS AND CONCEPTS THAT CAME OUT OF THAT.

AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS.

SO I'M NOT ASKING ANYONE TO MAKE ANY DECISIONS RIGHT HERE ON THE SPOT.

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BECAUSE IF YOU NEED TIME, WHICH I UNDERSTAND YOU DO.

TO REVIEW THESE AND REALLY THINK ABOUT WHAT YOUR PRIORITIES ARE.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE EXERCISE IS ASKING YOU TO DO.

NOT RIGHT NOW -- NOT RIGHT NOW.

[INAUDIBLE] USING IT SO YOU GUYS CAN TAKE IT AND DO ON YOUR OWN TIME.

AND THEN SEND IT BACK TO ME.

SO I CAN CONSOLIDATE IT.

THAT'S KIND OF WHAT MY JOB IS, CONSOLIDATING.

WHAT EACH OF THE FIVE OF YOU SAY TO ME PUTTING IT TOGETHER.

THAT'S WHAT I AM DOING.

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT DEBRA, BUT YOU KNOW IF WE WERE IN AN AUTONOMOUS COMMISSION THAT WHATEVER WE DETERMINED.

IF WE VOTED FOR SOMETHING AND WE UNDERSTOOD THAT, THAT VOTE WOULD HOLD.

THIS WHOLE THING WOULD MAKE A LOT MORE SENSE TO ME.

MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE FOR ME.

BUT WE'RE NOT IN THAT POSITION.

WE'VE HAD EXPERIENCES IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS WHERE A COMMISSION OR A COUNCILMEMBER DIDN'T LIKE THE DECISION WE MADE.

SO THEY FINAGLED TO GET WHAT THEY LIKED.

>> AND THAT IS SPECIFICALLY WHY WE NEED TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

AS I SAID.

>> BUT -- BUT IT HAPPENED AGAIN WITH THE GOLDEN BOYS FIASCO.

>> WHAT THIS DOES, AT THE END OF THIS, AT THE END OF THIS PROCESS AS I SAID BEFORE, THIS IS NOT -- AGAIN, WHEN WE COME UP WITH THIS.

WE CANNOT JUST OKAY, WE DECIDED WE'VE GOING TO DO THIS.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WILL BRING TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

AND FOR THE PROCESS, WHEN WE TOOK ELATION TO CITY COUNCIL.

WE REVIEWED THE PROCESS THAT THEY APPROVED.

AND SO WHEN THEY WERE ASKING QUESTIONS, OKAY, HERE'S WHAT YOU APPROVED.

HERE'S THE PROCESS THAT WE WENT THROUGH.

THIS IS WHAT THE COMMISSION DETERMINED BASED ON THE PROCESS THAT YOU APPROVED.

OKAY.

SO NOW WE'RE BRINGING ACTUAL -- AN ACTUAL ISSUE TO YOU.

FOLLOWING THESE GUIDELINES THAT YOU APPROVED.

IT WAS EASY BREEZY, IT WAS NO BIG DEAL, IT WENT THROUGH.

BUT I THINK IF WE HAD GONE BEFORE AND WE WOULD LIKE TO DO THIS.

AND SURELY I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING THAT YOU WANT THEM TO HAVE FAITH IN US.

IF WE DECIDE TO DO SOMETHING AND THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

BUT THEY NEED SOME ASSURANCES FROM US THAT WE ARE OPERATING IN BEST PRACTICES.

AND ONCE WE DEMONSTRATE TO THEM WITH DOCUMENTATION OF HOW WE PLAN TO PROCEED.

THERE ISN'T GOING TO BE ANY CONFUSION ON THEIR PART.

AND IT WILL PREVENT IF SOMEONE WAS GOING TO WAKE UP PRETTY EARLY TO CIRCUMVENT AN APPROVED PROCESS THROUGH THE CITY COUNCIL.

I MEAN IF THEY WANT -- LISTEN, CITY COUNCIL CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.

AND IF THEY APPROVE SOMETHING AND SOMEONE HAS ISSUES WITH IT, THEY REALLY HAVE TO FIND A WAY THAT WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.

AND THAT'S THE POSITION I AM TRYING TO PUT US IN.

>> THREE VOTES -- >> [INAUDIBLE] OVERTURN ANYTHING THAT WE SAY.

>> THREE VOTES ON THE COUNCIL CAN CHANGE WHATEVER THEY WANT TO CHANGE.

>> THAT'S TRUE.

BUT I MEAN -- THE CITY COUNCIL ALSO HAS PUT TOGETHER RESOLUTIONS.

AND THE CITY COUNCIL OPERATES BY RULES AND SET OF PROCEDURES.

>> BUT IF THREE COUNCIL PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE WHAT IS GOING ON, ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS VOTE AGAINST IT.

>> I MEAN -- >> THEY GOT FINAL POWER.

>> I THINK -- I THINK THIS GOING THROUGH A PROCESS AND THIS IS BEST PRACTICE.

ANY QUALITY ORGANIZATION GOES THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

A LARGE PART OF WHAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, WHAT I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT WITH 100 PLUS ART ADMINISTRATORS ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND INTERNATIONALLY IS TALKING ABOUT HOW TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS LIKE THIS.

HOW TO GET RESULTS AND HOW TO HAVE THOSE RESULTS EQUAL BETTER PROCESSES AND [INAUDIBLE].

THAT'S WHAT THIS IS.

AND SO IF WE DON'T DETERMINE IF WHAT WE VALUE, WHAT IT MEANS.

HOW WE'RE DOING IT, AND IF WE DON'T ARTICULATE THAT TO OURSELVES, THAT'S A TRANSPARENCY MOVE TO THE COMMUNITY.

SO THAT THE COMMUNITY KNOWS HOW WE ARE OPERATING.

SO THE CITY COUNCIL KNOWS HOW WE ARE OPERATING.

AND THAT WE HOLD OURSELVES TO THE SAME VALUE.

IF WE ARE NOT DOING THAT AND ANYONE CAN SAY, WAIT, HOW DID YOU COME TO THAT DECISION.

I DON'T SEE ANYTHING THAT SAYS THAT IS HOW YOU DO IT, OVERTURNED.

WE ARE PLACING OURSELVES IN A VULNERABLE POSITION IF WE DON'T OUTLINE AND TRANSPARENT ABOUT OUR PROCESSES AND THAT'S WHAT W ARE TRYING TO ESTABLISH

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THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

AND TRYING TO SAY, HEY, SUPER MAN CAN COME DOWN AND LASER BEAM THE ENTIRE EARTH AND WE HAVE NO ART ANYMORE, THAT CAN HAPPEN, SURE.

BUT WE HAVE TO DO OUR BEST AND FOLLOW OUR BEST PRACTICE AND IF OTHER PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT, THAT'S ON THEM.

BUT AT LEAST IT'S NOT ON US.

>> I APPRECIATE ALL OF THAT DEBRA, I DO.

BUT ON MY PERSONAL SIDE OF IT, YOU HAVE GOT TO STREAMLINE THIS PROCESS BECAUSE THIS HAS GONE ON TOO, TOO LONG.

I AM SICK OF IT.

>> EVERYONE IS INTERCEPTING WITH [INAUDIBLE].

>> BUT -- YOU KNOW, THIS IS -- THIS HAS GONE ON AND ON AND ON.

AND ON.

>> OKAY, WE CAN [INAUDIBLE].

>> IT'S AN INDEFINITE PROCESS AND SOMETIMES IT IS.

THAT IS JUST REAL.

THAT IS REAL.

>> THEN YOU ARE NOT DOING A REAL GOOD JOB WITH IT.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT ASSESSMENT.

BUT IF THAT'S THE WAY THAT YOU FEEL, PERHAPS ARE MORE WILLING TO ENGAGE IN THE

PROCESS SO WE CAN GET THROUGH IT INSTEAD OF GETTING STUCK ON -- >> OKAY, I WILL INTERJECT AND I THINK THAT THE CHAIR WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING AND I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO LET THE CHAIR RUN THE MEETING.

VENESSA PLEASE.

>> YES, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROCESS IF WE CAN AGREE TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

BECAUSE I AM TIRED OF -- YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD.

BECAUSE I WOULD RATHER SPEND MORE TIME ON CREATING OUR VALUES AND OUR FOUNDATION OVER ARGUING ABOUT THE PROCESS.

>> OKAY.

>> I THINK WE ALL LIKE TO SPEND MORE TIME DOING THE JOB THAT THE COMMISSION IS SUPPOSED TO DO.

AND THAT'S ENHANCING THE CULTURAL VITALITY OF INDIO.

>> I AGREE, THIS IS PART OF THAT MISSION.

>> WELL IT DOES SLOW US DOWN.

>> PERHAPS AND WE CAN GET THROUGH IT FASTER IF WE AGREE TO -- AGREE TO GO THROUGH THIS.

I AM HAPPY TO SHARE, I'M HAPPY TO SHARE THE POWERPOINT.

AND PROBABLY HAVE TO SHARE AS PDF, IT'S ACTUALLY PRETTY BIG.

I AM HAPPY TO SHARE IT.

IT'S ONE SINGULAR CONCEPT.

AND YOU KNOW, IF YOU NEED MORE TIME WITH IT.

I MEAN IF YOU NEED MORE TIME WITH IT, I'M HAPPY TO SHARE IT.

I AM HAPPY TO MEET WITH ANYONE THAT HAS CONFUSION OR CONCERNS ABOUT IT.

IT'S REALLY A SIMPLE MATTER OF -- >> [INAUDIBLE] I THINK STAFF HAS HEARD THE MESSAGE FROM THREE OF THE COMMISSIONERS THAT YOU WOUL LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.

SO I THINK WHAT DEBRA IS ASKING IF YOU CAN GIVE HER FEEDBACK SO THAT WE CAN PUT BOOK ENDS ON THIS IS WHAT I THINK SHE'S LOOKING FOR RIGHT NOW.

I AM NOT TRYING TO SPEAK FOR DEBRA BUT THINK THAT'S HER REQUEST.

IF YOU CAN GIVE HER FEEDBACK BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT MEETING, WE WILL FOCUS AS STAFF TO USE BILL'S TERM, TO WRAP THIS UP.

BUT DEBRA, AND I HAVE TO SAY.

YOU ARE ADVISORY TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND YOUR INPUT IS VALUABLE AND NEEDED.

THE GOAL OF THIS HAS BEEN TO HELP THE COUNCIL UNDERSTAND WHAT TO DO STRATEGICALLY WITH PUBLIC ARTS IN THE CITY.

SO THIS DOES HAVE A GOAL IN MIND BUT ALSO NEEDS AN END POINT IN MIND AND WE AS STAFF HEARD YOU.

>> CAN I SUGGEST AND THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT.

BECAUSE THAT STATEMENT ALONE WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL IN RESPONDING.

IS THAT WE ARE TRYING TO GIVE CITY COUNCIL ABCD AND WHATEVER IN REGARDS TO PUBLIC ARTS.

YOU KNOW WHAT IS THE FINAL GOAL OF THIS? THAT IS WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE.

>> [INAUDIBLE].

>> WHAT IS THE FINAL GOAL OF THE STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION?

>> YEAH.

>> THAT'S A VERY FAIR QUESTION, BILL.

AND I THINK THAT THE FINAL GOAL IS TO GIVE YOU, YOUR AND THE REST OF THE COMMISSION'S ADVISORY RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL TO HELP STRATEGIZE ON HOW BEST TO ENHANCE PUBLIC ARTS IN THE INDIO COMMUNITY.

AND PARTICULARLY TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, DURING THESE CHALLENGING TIMES.

RESOURCES ARE STRETCHED AND SOME STRATEGIC DECISIONS THAT HAVE TO BE MADE.

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>> SURE, YEAH.

>> SO YOUR INPUT WHERE TO FOCUS, IF YOU WILL.

FINITE RESOURCES THAT THE COMMISSION'S INPUT ON THAT.

THAT WILL HELP, SO THE STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS AT THE END OF THE DAY IS ABOUT FOCUSING ENERGY AND RESOURCES.

SO YOUR ADVISORY RECOMMENDATIONS I THINK WILL BE VALUABLE FOR COUNCIL TO HONESTLY FIGURE HOW TO BEST UTILIZE FINITE RESOURCES AND INCLUDING THE ARTS IN PUBLIC PLACES FUND.

THAT HAS A FINITE NATURE TOO.

>> OKAY, SO LIKE I SAID, I'M GOING TO SEND YOU THIS INFORMATION.

IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

WHERE WE ARE -- USED THE LAST 84 STATEMENTS THAT I RECEIVED FROM THE FIVE OF YOU.

THIS PICTURE RIGHT HERE IS ME PUTTING IT INTO THE ENGINE AND SEEING WHAT CAME OUT.

AND THEN CODING EACH OF THE STATEMENTS FOR WHAT THEY WERE IN ESSENCE ALL ABOUT.

AND THESE ARE THE 12 THEMES THAT EMERGED FROM EACH OF 84 STATEMENTS THAT WERE SUBMITTED TO ME.

AND RANKED BY YOU.

AND SO HERE THIS IS -- I DON'T WANT TO SAY A SCORE BUT THE NUMBER OF TIMES THAT THE ISSUES HAVE ARISEN IN REVIEWING THE STATEMENTS.

AND I MEAN THERE ARE A LOT OF THEM.

AND SO I THINK THAT -- MAYBE THAT TOO MUCH.

I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE ESSENTIAL FOR YOU GUYS AS THE GOVERNING BODY TO SORT OF MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT WHICH OF THESE VALUES YOU THINK WILL REALLY GET US TO WHERE WE WANT TO BE.

AGAIN LIKE I SAID IT'S ROOTED IN THE MISSION AND IT'S TAKING US TOWARDS THE VISION.

WHICH IS WHY WE WENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR AND WHAT WE ARE DOING AND HOW WE ARE GOING TO DO THAT.

AND SO THE EXERCISE IS PRETTY SIMPLE IN SELECTING YOUR TOP, I WOULD SAY SIX, AND WHAT YOU THINK THAT MEANS FOR THE COMMISSION.

AND HOW -- AND HOW, WHAT SORT OF BEHAVIORS WOULD IT SUBMIT.

IF WE WERE BEING, IF IT WAS THAT WE ARE CREATING MORE OPPORTUNITIES.

EXACTLY WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE TO YOU.

AND WITH ANY CONFIDENCE AGAIN OF US BEING THE BODY THAT WE ARE.

SO THAT'S KIND OF ALL.

IT SEEMS LIKE THERE ARE OTHER QUESTIONS, I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS WHO HAVEN'T ARTICULATED ANYTHING.

NOT ARTICULATED ANYTHING BUT IF YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS.

RELATED TO THIS.

SO THAT WE CAN GET ALL THE CONFUSION OUT OF THE WAY.

SO THAT WHEN I SEND IT IT'S GOING FOR YOU GUYS.

SO EVERYONE IS -- SORT OF UNDERSTANDS WHERE WE ARE AND WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO HERE WITH THIS EXERCISE.

>> NO -- >> NO.

>> YEAH, I HAVE NOT DONE ANY SORT OF VISION/MISSION CRAFTING COPY EXERCISE WHERE IT SEEMS TO BE THAT WE ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH A LOT OF THINGS AND WHAT IS THE NEXT THING WE ARE SUPPOSED TO DO WITH THIS.

AND WE CAN AGREE ON SIX ITEMS AND HAVE A LIST OF SIX ITEMS. WHAT IS THE NEXT THING?

>> SO FOR RIGHT NOW -- PARDON, FOR RIGHT NOW IT WOULD BE CONSOLIDATING THIS LIST TO SIX THINGS.

IT WOULD BE DEFINING WHAT IT MEANS.

LIKE WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT ACCESSIBILITY THROUGH THE LENS OF THE PUBLIC ARTS COMMISSION AND THROUGH THE LENS OF BEING IN INDIO RIGHT NOW.

WITH OUR COMMUNITY AS IT IS, KIND OF UNDERSTANDING WHERE WE ARE.

WHAT WOULD THAT MEAN IF WE WERE TO PRACTICE ACCESSIBILITY WITHIN OUR PROCESSES WITHIN OUR SUBMISSIONS.

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WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE FOR US TO PRACTICE ACCESSIBILITY.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN.

WRITE IT DOWN.

IF YOU DON'T KNOW, DON'T WRITE IT DOWN.

AND FINALLY SORT OF IDENTIFYING HOW WE WOULD DO IT.

>> EJ, CAN I ASK A QUESTION? ARE YOU REALLY JUST ASKING, I THINK DEBRA IS DESCRIBING THE PROCESSING IT THROUGH.

ARE YOU REALLY ASKING AT THE END WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE IN THE RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL, IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE ASKING?

>> I'M TRYING TO FIGURE WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THIS.

I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS IS WE NEED TO JUSTIFY OUR DECISION-MAKING PROCESS, HOW WE ARRIVED AT A DECISION.

HOW WE JUSTIFY AND ALL OF THAT SORT OF STUFF.

SO THAT WE CAN ADVISE COUNCIL THIS IS WHY WE PICKED THIS TYPE OF PROJECT OR THIS KIND OF PROGRAM OR THIS PIECE.

AND YOU HAVE THE JUSTIFICATIONS THERE FOR IT, I GET THAT.

MY THING THIS PROCESS IS THERE A ROADMAP FOR THIS? TO SAY WE DO THIS TODAY AND THIS THE NEXT DAY.

AND BOOM, BOOM, KNOCK IT OUT.

OR JUST THAT WE GET PRETTY POWERPOINT WITHOUT A DIRECTIVE THAT SAYS THIS IS WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH THIS.

>> SORRY -- YOU GO.

>> I AM GOING TO CUT TO THE CHASE.

WE HEARD YOUR MESSAGE, THREE OF YOU HAVE SPOKEN I THINK LOUD AND CLEAR THAT YOU ARE READY TO BE DONE WITH THIS EXERCISE.

BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT MEETING DEBRA WILL SEND YOU YOUR HOMEWORK ASSIGNMENTS.

YOU WILL GIVE HER FEEDBACK IF YOU WANT TO AND BETWEEN NOW AND THEN DEBRA AND I WILL WORK TOGETHER TO SET THIS UP TO BE CONCLUDED?

>> HOW CAN WE SET IT UP TO BE CONCLUDED?

>> WE WILL FIGURE THAT OUT DEBRA.

WE HEAR YOU AS A COMMISSION AND EJ SAID IT AND BILL SAID IT.

THE MAJORITY OF YOU ARE WEIGHING IN THAT YOU WANT TO WRAP THIS UP.

WE WILL FIGURE OUT THE PIECES TO WRAP IT UP.

I AM PUTTING DEBRA ON NOTICE, APOLOGIZE DEBRA FOR THAT.

I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE SOMETHING THAT IS A PROBLEM.

THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY, AND I DON'T WANT IT TO BE SEEN AS A PROBLEM.

THE OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU IS TO GIVE COUNCIL YOUR FEEDBACK AS ADVISORY IN PUBLIC ARTS TO BE ABLE TO CONFIRM WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO FOCUS ON.

ADVISE AS TO HOW BEST TO UTILIZE LIMITED RESOURCES.

AND HONESTLY THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE SOMEWHAT.

HOPEFULLY SOME DAY WE WILL NOT BE IN THIS SITUATION WITH THE ECONOMIC AND GLOBAL PANDEMIC ISSUES.

AND YOU OR FUTURE COMMISSION MEMBERS WILL BE IN A POSITION TO LOOK AT THINGS LIKE ARTS MASTER'S PLANNING AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT.

>> ARTS MASTER'S PLANNING TAKES JUST AS LONG OR LONGER THAN THIS PROCESS.

SO WE HAVE TO HAVE THE BASIS FOR OPERATION IN ORDER TO DO AN ARTS MASTER PLANNING PROCESS.

WE CAN'T NOT DO THE PROCESS BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO ENGAGE IN THE PROCESS BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE THE PROCESS.

HOW CAN WE SAY WE WANT TO DO ANOTHER PROCESS, WHEN NO ONE WANTS TO DO ONE.

>> I THINK MORE MY ISSUE IS WHAT THE PROCESS? WE ARE LEARNING IT NEW FROM YOU AS OPPOSED TO HAVING IT BOOM, BOOM, BULLET POINTED OUT AND THIS IS WHAT WE DO THIS TIME.

THIS IS WHAT WE DO THE NEXT TIME.

IT'S NEW EACH TIME AND WE CAN BE PREPARED WHEN WE COME TO A MEETING.

THAN HAVING A BULLET ITEM THAT SAYS, STRATEGIC PLANNING DISCUSSION.

>> I'M SORRY, EJ YOU SAID THAT YOU HAVEN'T ENGAGED IN MUCH OF THESE AND THIS IS HOW THEY GO.

>> I KNOW AND I AM LEARNING FOR THE FIRST TIME.

IT WOULD HELPFUL TO HAVE A PRIMER THAT SAYS THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS IN THIS SORT OF THING.

IT HASN'T COME UP IN MY LIFE WHERE WE CRAFT, YOU HAVE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT IS A MISSION, WHAT IS A VISION, WHAT IS A GOAL.

THOSE ARE ALL ALMOST SYNONYMS.

>> THEY ARE NOT AND YOU WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE PROCESS AND WHY THESE PROCESSES ARE CONDUCTED IN MODULES WITH THE INFORMATION THAT IS RELEVANT TO THE MODULE.

FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU WERE SAYING, IF YOU ARE SAYING THAT MISSIONS, VISIONS, GOALS ARE ALL THE SAME.

>> I SAID NO -- >> HOW ARE WE GOING TO MOVE THROUGH EACH MODULE IF YOU DEFLATE

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ONE WITH THE OTHER.

>> I DON'T WANT TO DRAG IT DOWN -- >> AND AGAIN WE SPENT MORE TIME TALKING ABOUT WHY WE ARE DOING THIS AS SUPPOSED TO SIMPLY FOLLOWING THE INSTRUCTIONS I AM GIVING YOU SO WE CAN DO IT.

WHAT COMES NEXT COMES NEXT BUT THAT CAN'T COME UNTIL WE DO THIS.

THAT'S WHAT I AM SAYING FROM THE BEGINNING.

THE ULTIMATE GOAL AS KEVIN DESCRIBED IS THAT.

BUT WE NEED THIS SECTION, WE NEED THESE PIECES OF INFORMATION IN THE ORDER THAT WE ARE GETTING THEM TO GET TO THAT PLACE WHERE WE CAN ARTICULATE AND DESCRIBE ALL THAT YOU WOULD LIKE.

AND WHAT WE WANT CITY COUNCIL TO KNOW.

AND FRANKLY YOU GUYS KEEP TALKING ABOUT THE LENGTH OF TIME IT TAKES AND YOU ARE TALKING WITH UNFAMILIARITY WITH THE PROCESS.

AND I GET THAT.

I AM CONTINUING TO LEARN ABOUT HOW TO DO PROCESSES LIKE THIS.

AND I AM CONTINUING TO TRY TO MAKE THEM SIMPLER BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND.

SO FOR ME WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW ARE 12 WORDS AND I'M ASKING YOU TO PLEASE LOOK AT THESE AND HAVE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THESE AND NOT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO END UP IN THE END.

BECAUSE IT'S DETERMINED HOW THESE PROCESSES GO.

THAT'S HOW IT IS DETERMINED.

IF EVERY TIME WE ARE INVOLVED IN A PROCESS AND YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT WE'RE GOING TO DO TWO MONTHS FROM NOW.

WE NEED TO DO THE WORK WE ARE DOING HERE.

AND THIS IS THE BEST PRACTICE, THIS IS THE BEST PROCESS.

I HAVE SOUGHT INFORMATION FROM ALL KINDS OF PLACES.

I HAVE TAKEN CLASSES JUST SO I CAN DO THIS.

IT'S FEELS REALLY FRUSTRATING WHEN YOU SAY YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO IT.

>> DEBRA, I ASK YOU TO STOP.

>> YEAH, I AM DONE WITH BEING LECTURED.

I DIDN'T TELL YOU -- I CAN SEE YOU DEBRA.

OKAY.

THIS IS DISRESPECTFUL.

YOU TALK ABOUT HAVING -- >> [INAUDIBLE].

>> YOU TALK ABOUT PROCESS AND YOU TALK ABOUT MODULES.

HOW HARD IS IT TO SAY THIS IS THE MODULE THAT WE COVERED TODAY AND WHAT WE ARE DISCUSSING.

WE GET A ONE LINE ITEM IN AGENDA AND THIS IS WHAT WE ARE PRESENTED WITH.

WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK OF THESE WORDS? OKAY, LET'S ARTICULATE IT BETTER AND SAY THESE ARE THE VALUES WE WANT TO USE FOR THE COUNCIL.

THERE IS MORE THAN THAT.

>> THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY ARE.

>> I AM GOING TO ASK BECAUSE I THINK THIS ISSUE NEEDS -- WE HAVE HEARD THE COMMISSION MEMBERS, THE MAJORITY OF YOU AND ASK THE CHAIR TO PROCEED THROUGH THE REST OF THE AGENDA.

WE AS STAFF WILL WORK ON ADDRESSING THIS.

WE WILL COME BACK TO YOU AT THE NEXT MEETING WITH A MORE DETAILED SET OF TO-DO'S.

AND WE WILL WRAP THIS UP.

I THINK WE HAVE HEARD FROM THE MAJORITY OF COMMISSION MEMBERS THAT YOU WANT TO WRAP THIS UP.

IT MAY NOT BE PERFECT.

IT MAY NOT BE 100% COMPLETE.

BUT WE HAVE HEARD FROM YOU.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE WILL DO.

BUT I THINK AT THIS POINT TO REDUCE THE TENSION AND TO CREATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO FINISH THE REST OF THE AGENDA.

I WILL ASK THE CHAIR TO MOVE ON TO THE OTHER AGENDA ITEMS AND COMMIT TO YOU TO BRING THIS PROCESS TO AN END.

HOPEFULLY AT THE NEXT MEETING, UNLESS THE COMMISSION WANTS TO EXTEND IT FURTHER.

OKAY.

>> THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THE COMMISSION SHOULD DETERMINE.

BECAUSE THERE ARE TWO FEMALE COMMISSIONERS -- >> DEBRA I ASK THAT WE DON'T HAVE THIS ARGUMENT ONLINE.

YOU AND I WILL DISCUSS THIS AT A LATER TIME AND TALK WITH THE CHAIR.

AND THE TENSIONS ARE HIGH THAT WE CALM DOWN AND GO THROUGH THE REST OF THE AGENDA.

>> NO, I WOULD ALSO LIKE WHAT I SAID EARLIER CLEAR, IT WASN'T TO WRAP UP THIS PROCESS.

IT WAS JUST TO MOVE FORWARD WHERE WE WERE AT.

SO I STILL WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROCESS.

MOVING FORWARD WHERE WE KEEP [INAUDIBLE].

YEAH, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON WITH THE AGENDA.

>> UNLESS OTHER COMMISSIONERS AND IT'S PROBABLY THE BEST USE OF TIME RIGHT NOW.

WE HAVE HEARD YOUR FEEDBACK AND WE WILL WORK OFF LINE AND COME BACK, AND TO THE CHAIR'S POINT, IF THE COMMISSION WANTS TO TAKE MORE TIME AT THE NEXT MEETING.

THAT'S FINE.

IF THE COMMISSION WANTS TO WRAP IT UP THAT'S FINE IN TERMS OF THE MAJORITY OF

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THE COMMISSIONERS.

>> IS THERE AN OPTION FOR THE COMMISSIONERS THAT WANT TO CONTINUE THE PROCESS? AND FOR THOSE THAT WANT TO WAIT FOR THE END RESULT?

>> DEBRA, WE WILL TALK OFF LINE.

>> ALL RIGHT.

[7. DIRECTOR ITEMS]

ITEM 7.

DIRECTOR ITEMS.

>> SORRY -- I HAVE TO FIX ONE THING.

WE HAVE BEEN HAVING INTERNET ISSUES AND SOMEONE WAS LETTING ME KNOW ABOUT SOMETHING AND APOLOGIZE FOR HAVING INTERNET ISSUES.

IN TERMS OF DIRECTOR ISSUES AND ONE THING THAT I WANTED TO SHARE.

AS SOME OF YOU KNOW WE ARE CURRENTLY DOING A ZONING CODE UPDATE PROJECT.

TO IMPLEMENT THE CITY'S GENERAL PLAN AND AS A PART OF THAT WE ARE GOING THROUGH THE ENTIRETY OF THE ZONING CODE.

FACILITATED BY MYSELF AND THE SENIOR PLANNER.

AND PART OF THAT WILL BE LOOKING AT VARIOUS ZONING REGULATIONS.

PART THE CURRENT ZONING REGULATIONS IS THE ARTS IN PUBLIC PLACES PROGRAM.

AND WE ARE MEETING WITH DEBRA THIS MONTH TO TALK THROUGH IT AND TALK WITH THE COMMISSION TO GET YOUR THOUGHTS AND PERSPECTIVE.

AS YOU KNOW HOW THE LANGUAGE IS CURRENTLY WRITTEN IT FOCUSES ON THE ART IN PUBLIC PLACES FUND AND FOCUSES ON HOW THE FUNDS UTILIZED AND APPLIED.

AND WANT TO CHECK WITH THE COMMISSION TO GET YOUR THOUGHTS AND FEEDBACK.

DO WE WANT TO LOOK AT IT DIFFERENTLY AND IN COMMUNITIES, THEY REQUIRE THE ARTS PUBLIC PLACES FUND IS FUNDED OUT OF NEW DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY IN THE CITY.

SOME COMMUNITIES HAVE CERTAIN THRESHOLDS WHEN YOU CAN CONTRIBUTE FINANCIALLY.

OTHERS SAY YOU HAVE TO, IF BELOW A CERTAIN THRESHOLD YOU HAVE TO PUT IN THE PUBLIC ART PIECE VERSUS WRITING A CHECK TO THE CITY.

THESE ARE THE KINDS OF QUESTIONS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT DEBRA ABOUT AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT AND GET YOUR FEEDBACK AS WE GO FORWARD ON THIS PROJECT.

ULTIMATELY THE GOAL IS TO HAVE AN UPDATED ZONING REGULATIONS AND AGAIN THE CURRENT REGULATIONS PERTAINING TO PUBLIC ART ARE IN THE ZONING CODE.

AND TO SHARE THAT WE ARE WORKING ON THAT AND SCHEDULE TIME TO COME FORWARD TO YOU IN THE NEAR FUTURE TO TALK ABOUT YOUR THOUGHTS AND IDEAS ABOUT THAT.

AND ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT AND THAT'S A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM THAT WE WANT TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION AND GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON.

AND THAT WAS IT BUT HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IF THERE IS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE REGARDING THAT OR ANYTHING ELSE.

>> KEVIN, ARE YOU OR LEILA IN TOUCH WITH THE PEOPLE IN PALM SPRINGS WITH THEIR COMMISSION?

>> REGARDING THE ZONING CODE UPDATE?

>> WELL, I UNDERSTAND THEY ARE WORKING TO CHANGE THE WHOLE STRUCTURE AND DIRECTION OF THEIR COMMISSION.

I MAY BE TOTALLY WRONG BUT THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT I HEARD SOMEONE SAY IN A ZOOM MEETING I WAS IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.

IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE UP TO.

>> I'M NOT KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT THAT, WE CAN CERTAINLY INQUIRE TO SEE WHAT GOING ON THERE.

>> I'LL TRY TO FIND OUT FROM THE PERSON THAT I HEARD IT FROM.

BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT SHE'S ON THE COMMISSION THERE.

I WILL TRY TO GET MORE DETAILS AND WHATEVER SHE GIVES ME I WILL SEND ON TO YOU AND DEBRA AND LEILA.

>> YEAH, THAT WOULD BE GOOD AND FOCUSED ON REGULATIONS AND IF THINGS GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY THAT YOU ARE AWARE AND OF INTEREST.

THE WHEEL CAN ALWAYS BE CONTINUALLY REINVENTED.

IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT THEY ARE LOOKING TO AND BRING FORWARD AND AS A COUNCIL YOU RECOMMEND THAT.

AND THE ZONING IS ON REGULATORY SIDE OF HOW WE MANAGE THE RESOURCES GIVEN TO US.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON, SPECIFICALLY ON THAT TOPIC.

CAN I ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE COMMISSION? OKAY, THANK YOU.

[8. COMMISSIONER ITEMS]

>> ITEM 8, COMMISSIONER ITEMS. ANYONE HAVE COMMISSIONER REPORTS?

>> I HAVE ONE POSITIVE THING TO SAY.

SURPRISED DEBRA.

FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE VISITED COACHELLA ARTS CENTER OVER THE PAST THREE OR FOUR YEARS.

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EVERY NOVEMBER WE HAVE DONE EXHIBITION OF WORK DONE BY VETERANS.

ARTISTS WHO ARE VETERANS.

AND I DIDN'T REALIZE AT THE TIME AND I FOUND OUT ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO.

SOMEONE WHO COMES TO THE VALLEY EVERY YEAR HAS BEEN COMING TO THOSE SHOWS.

AND HAS LIKED WHAT THEY SAW.

BECAUSE OF THE TYPE OF WORK THAT'S BEEN SEEN.

SO THEY CONTACTED ME ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO AND SAID, I LIKE WHAT YOU DO.

AND THINK IT'S IMPORTANT ESPECIALLY FOR THE VETERANS.

IF YOU HAVE A SPACE AVAILABLE, A STUDIO SPACE AVAILABLE, I WILL PAY THAT LEASE FOR A YEAR AS LONG AS THE ARTIST IS A VETERAN.

SO TWO DAYS AFTER THAT HAPPENED, I HAD A KNOCK ON THE FRONT DOOR AND AT THE FRONT DOOR A YOUNG MAN FROM INDIO AND HE AND HIS FAMILY MOVED BACK BECAUSE HER PARENTS ARE GETTING OLDER.

AND HE JUST GRADUATED FROM CAL ARTS AND ALSO A FORMER MARINE.

AND SO HE'S GOING TO BE JOINING US.

BECAUSE THE ONLY APPLICATION THAT I NEEDED WAS A COPY OF HIS DD214.

TO VERIFY THAT HE IS INDEED A VETERAN.

SO THAT'S A REAL NICE THING FOR A YOUNG, BEGINNING ARTIST WHO HAS HAD EXPERIENCE IN THE FIELD.

FIELD OF LIFE.

SO THAT'S THE LATEST THING THAT HAPPENED AT THE ARTS CENTER.

AND HE'S A NICE KID.

TALENTED ACTUALLY, HIS WORK IS REALLY QUITE INTERESTING.

HIS WIFE JUST STARTED WORK AS ONE OF THE TRAFFIC CONTROLLERS AT THE PALM SPRINGS AIRPORT.

>> THAT'S GOOD NEWS.

>> THAT'S AWESOME.

>> HE THINKS SO.

YEAH.

>> THAT'S PRETTY COOL.

>> YEAR FREE LEASE.

>> YEAH.

>> WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY.

>> YEAH.

SO THERE ARE GOOD PEOPLE OUT THERE TRYING TO DO GOOD THINGS FOR PEOPLE IN NEED.

AND DOESN'T HAPPEN VERY OFTEN IN THE ART WORLD.

THAT'S WHY I AM SO PLEASED WITH IT.

>> ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER REPORTS? DO WE HAVE ANYTHING FOR THE NEXT MEETING? NEXT MEETING ITEMS? ANY COMMISSIONERS WOULD LIKE TO PUT ON?

>> WELL, WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THE CONSERVATOR RFP UPDATE ON THAT.

FOR THE MURALS.

AND I GUESS STRATEGIC PLAN.

>> OKAY.

THAT'S IT.

AND SO I WILL ADJOURN THIS MEETING AT 6:49.

ALL RIGHT.

THANKS EVERYONE.

>> THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.