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>> I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC ART COMMISSION MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 8TH, AT

[1. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL:]

[00:00:16]

5:33.

CAN I PLEASE GET ROLL CALL? VENESSA BECERRA?

>> HERE.

VICE CHAIR PERSON THOMAS BUCK?

>> MUTED, HERE.

>> COMMISSIONER BILL SCHINSKY?

>> HERE.

>> COMMISSIONER E.J.

NEUMEYER?

>> HERE.

>> COMMISSIONER CECELIA CRUZ?

>> HERE.

>> TOM, CAN YOU LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE?

>> SURE, I CAN DO THAT.

HAND OVER YOUR HEART.

READY, BEGIN.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>> THANK YOU, TOM.

ALL RIGHT.

ITEM 3, PUBLIC COMMENT.

WE DO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS.

[3. PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA]

SO IF WE CAN GET THOSE ON THE RECORD.

ARE THEY E-MAILS OR DO WE HAVE ANY CALL-INS? I THINK YOU'RE MUTED, EVELYN.

>> I APOLOGIZE.

FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE AGENDA, I HAVE A STATEMENT THAT I HAVE TO READ INTO THE RECORD.

IT READS AS FOLLOWS.

AS A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY I HAVE BEEN IN ATTENDANCE OF THE ARTS COMMISSION MEETINGS SINCE THE BEGINNING OF 2019.

IN THAT TIME I HAVE BECOME FAMILIAR WITH THIS AND I DO SUPPORT A SUBCOMMITTEE TO GET COMPLETED.

I APOLOGIZE.

I JUST REALIZED FOR ITEM 8.1, SHE DID CLARIFY THAT WE CAN DEFER THAT UNTIL ITEM 8.1.

AND NO FURTHER COMMENTS FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

>> JENNY IS HERE.

>> HI, JENNY.

>> HI.

THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME IN.

SHOULD I WAIT UNTIL PUBLIC COMMENT IN ORDER TO MAKE A SMALL PRESENTATION? I'M SORRY, I'M UNAWARE OF HOW MUCH TIME I HAVE AND WHEN I SHOULD SPEAK.

>> WE CAN HAVE YOU TAKE THE TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT THAT YOU NEED.

>> OKAY.

WOULD THAT BE NOW?

>> YES.

HI.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

HI.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME IN.

MY NAME IS JENNY GILL.

I MET SOME OF YOU IN THE PAST.

I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN 2019.

WE HAD AN EXHIBITION AT THE ARMORY BUILDING BY AMERICAN ARTIST JERRY SIMMONS AND WE HAVE ALSO A HARP IN THE CITY OF INDIO, AS WELL AS ONE OF THE CHAPTERS OF ANOTHER ONE OF OUR INSTALLATIONS BY THE BRAZILIAN ARTIST THAT WAS PLACED IN A STOREFRONT OWNED BY THE CITY, WHICH I BELIEVE NOW IS SOME OF YOUR OFFICES CURRENTLY.

SO FOR JUST BRIEFLY FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE PROJECT, IT IS A CONTEMPORARY ART EXHIBITION.

WE ORGANIZE THIS EXHIBITION EVERY OTHER YEAR IN THE COACHELLA VALLEY SINCE 2017.

WE ARE PLANNING TO HAVE YOUR THIRD EXHIBITION IN 2021.

FEBRUARY 6 THROUGH APRIL 11, 2021.

AS YOU MIGHT KNOW, WE DO NOT HAVE A PHYSICAL BRICK AND MORTAR SPACE AND MUSEUM OR GALLERY, BUT WE ORGANIZE OUR EXHIBITIONS THROUGHOUT DIFFERENT VENUES AND WE INVITE INTERNATIONAL ARTISTS TO COME AND DO SITE SPECIFIC WORK, EITHER EMPTY DESERT LOTS, EMPTY STOREFRONTS.

BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, THROUGH OUR EXHIBITION, BOTH CIRCULATING, HELPING CIRCULATE PEOPLE WITHIN THE COACHELLA VALLEY FOR THEM TO GET TO KNOW THEIR REGION BETTER, BUT ALSO ATTRACTING PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE OF THE COACHELLA VALLEY.

THIS YEAR, GIVEN THE SITUATION WITH COVID, WE ARE VERY MUCH COMMON ON A DRIVE-BY OR DRIVE TRAFFIC THAT WE CALL, WHICH WOULD BE PEOPLE COMING FROM TWO,

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THREE HOURS DRIVE FROM THE COACHELLA VALLEY, FROM THE SAN DIEGO AREA, L.A., LAS VEGAS, PHOENIX, ETC. O WE'RE VERY MUCH LOOKING FORWARD TO CONTINUING OUR PLAN FOR EXHIBITION.

ALL OF OUR EXHIBITIONS, OR MOST OF THEM, ARE OUTDOORS, WHICH WE BELIEVE WILL BE SOMETHING POSITIVE FOR THE SPECIFIC ART EXHIBITION THIS YEAR AND SOMETHING THAT WE CAN MANAGE.

WE'RE ALSO DISCUSSING AND WE CAN DISCUSS MORE IN DETAIL ONCE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH PLANS, ARE JUST TYPES OF SAFETY RECOMMENDATIONS, SAFETY MEASURES THAT WE WILL BE TAKING IN LIGHT OF COVID.

I KNOW THAT BILL SCHINSKY SITS ON A GROUP OF COACHELLA VALLEY CULTURAL LEADERS THAT I HAVE ACTUALLY INITIATED A FEW MONTHS WHEN WE STARTED TO BE HIT BY COVID.

WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING EVERY OTHER WEEK HOW ALL THE CULTURAL AND ARTS ORGANIZATIONS IN THE COACHELLA VALLEY ARE ABLE AND REACTING TO COVID IN ORDER TO CONTINUE DOING THE SERVICE THAT WE DO TO THE COMMUNITY.

I WOULD LIKE TODAY TO SPEAK BRIEFLY ABOUT A PROJECT THAT HAS COME UP IN THE PAST MONTH AS WE'RE PREPARING FOR AN EXHIBITION THAT OUR CURATORS WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED IN DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY OF INDIO.

AND THIS IS A PROJECT BY A COLUMBIAN ARTIST.

CAN I SHARE A PRESENTATION ON THE -- ON MY SCREEN? YES, GREAT.

I'M GOING TO -- I'M GOING TO BRIEFLY SHARE MY PRESENTATION, AS IT MIGHT BE EASIER TO PUT SOME IMAGES AS I SPEAK.

SCREEN SHARING IS ENABLED.

THANK YOU.

THIS YEAR WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH NEVILLE WAKEFIELD, WHO IS OUR ARTISTIC DIRECTOR AND HAS BEEN SINCE 2017 AND IS THE BRAINS BEHIND THE PROJECT THAT WE DEVELOP.

EVERY YEAR NEVILLE WORKS WITH A NEW CURATOR.

THAT YEAR HE HAS RECOMMENDED CAESAR GARCIA-ALVAREZ TO WORK WITH HIM.

THIS IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF AN INTERNATIONAL ART NONPROFIT SPACE IN DOWNTOWN L.A.

SOME OF YOU MIGHT BE FAMILIAR WITH HIS WORK.

HE'S BROUGHT YEARS OF MARVELOUS ARTISTS TO L.A.

LOT OF THEM FOR THE FIRST TIME SHOWING IN THE UNITED STATES.

HE HAS FAMILY TIES IN THE COACHELLA VALLEY.

HE'S BEEN OUT HERE SINCE HE WAS A KID.

HE TOLD ME HE HAS MORE THAN 20 COUSINS RITE AROUND THE COACHELLA VALLEY.

EVERY TIME HE COMES OUT HERE HE TRIES TO AVOID FAMILY TRIES, OTHERWISE HE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO DESERTX.

HE'S VERY INTERESTED IN BRINGING THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT TO INDIO BY OSCAR MURILLO, WHO IS AN ARTIST WHO IS RATHER YOUNG.

HE'S IN HIS PROBABLY MID TO LOW 30S.

OSCAR WAS KNOWN FOR HIS PAINTINGS.

HE WAS SELLING HIS PAINTINGS AROUND $4,000 TO $5,000 ABOUT TEN YEARS AGO AND NOW HE'S TOTALLY EXPLODED IN THE MARKET AND HIS PAINTINGS ARE ALL SELLING OVER $100,000.

HE WAS A TURNER PRIZE RECIPIENT LAST YEAR IN 2019.

HE WAS THE INSTIGATOR OF THE TURNER PRIZE, AS YOU KNOW MOW.

HE HAS AN IMPORTANT GALLERY IN THE U.S.

FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS, HE'S BEEN PRESENTING A PROJECT CALLED FREQUENCIES WITH A NONPROFIT THAT HE'S CREATED, SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS PROJECT.

THE IDEA OF THIS PROJECT IS TO REALLY GET A SENSE OF HOW CHILDREN SEE THE WORLD AND HOW THEY PAINT THE WORLD FROM THEIR DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES.

IN THESE PAST FIVE YEARS, HE'S COLLABORATED WITH SCHOOLS IN OVER 30 COUNTRIES AND HAS DISTRIBUTED CANVASS TO EACH OF THESE SCHOOLS FOR THE KIDS TO APPLY THE CANVASS ON THE DESK AT THEIR SCHOOLS.

THE CANVASES ARE LEFT AT THE SCHOOLS FOR TWO TO FOUR MONTHS, AFTER WHICH THE ARTIST RECUPERATES THE CANVASES AND CREATES AN ONLINE ARCHIVE CALLED FREQUENCIES.

WHAT HE WOULD LIKE TO DO AT DESERT X, WHAT HE WOULD LIKE TO DO IN DESERT X AND

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ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE COVID SITUATION, IS TO DISTRIBUTE THESE CANVASES FOR KIDS TO BE ABLE TO DO FROM HOME.

WE HAVE BEEN STICKING WITH THE THREE SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN THE COACHELLA VALLEY, AND WE'RE AIMING TO BE ABLE TO COLLABORATE WITH BETWEEN 1,000 AND 1,500 CHILDREN THROUGH THEIR ART PROGRAMS BY DISTRIBUTING THESE CANVASES AND ART KITS THROUGH THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, RECUPERATING THE CANVASES BEFORE THE CHRISTMAS HOLIDAY IN DECEMBER.

THE IDEA, DURING DESERT X IS THAT THESE CANVASES WILL BE PART OF AN EXHIBITION OF THE CANVASES THAT ARE AT THE ARMORY IN THE CITY OF INDIO.

I WANTED TO SHOW YOU ONE MORE THING AND I WON'T KEEP YOU VERY LONG.

BUT I DO WANT TO SHOW YOU THIS VERY BRIEF VIDEO BY THE ARTIST.

HE'LL EXPLAIN IN VERY SIMPLE WORDS.

>> HI, EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS OSCAR MURILLO.

I AM A CONTEMPORARY ARTIST.

I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO TELL YOU ABOUT FREQUENCIES, WHICH IS A PROJECT,

COLLABORATIVE PROJECT MYSELF AND MY COLLEAGUES >> HELLO.

I WORK WITH OSCAR MURILLO FOR THIS PROJECT.

FREQUENCIES STARTED IN COLOMBIA IN 2013 TO STUDENTS WHO COLLABORATE WITH OSCAR.

IT'S A WORLDWIDE PROJECT.

WE WENT TO A SCHOOL HERE AND INVITE STUDENTS TO USE THE CANVAS HOWEVER THEY WANTED.

THEY COULD DRAW.

THEY COULD WRITE.

THEY COULD PAINT.

WE EXTENDED THE PROJECT WORLDWIDE.

WE'VE GOT OVER 30 COUNTRIES AND HAVE COLLABORATED WITH 50,000 STUDENTS IN MORE THAN 400 SCHOOLS.

ALL THOSE CANVASES HAVE BECOME PART OF THE GROWING ARCHIVE OF IDEAS AND

EXPRESSIONS AND CREATIVITY OF STUDENTS FROM ALL AROUND THE WORLD >> FREQUENCIES IS MOSTLY ABOUT DRAWING AND IT TAKES DRAWING AT THE VERY SIMPLE ACT AND COMBINES THINKING FROM THE UNCONSCIOUS TO THE CONSCIOUS IDEA OF THINKING.

>> OF COURSE NOW WITH THE GLOBAL SITUATION AND COVID, WE CAN'T VISIT CLASSROOMS, SO YOU WILL HAVE A BOARD WITH THE CANVAS THAT YOU WILL BE ABLE TO TAKE HOME.

YOU WILL HAVE IT IN YOUR HOME FOR SEVERAL MONTHS.

YOU WILL BE ABLE TO USE IT HOWEVER YOU WANT AND USE ANY MATERIAL TO PAINT, TO WRITE, TO DOODLE.

YOU WILL HAVE ABSOLUTE FREEDOM TO PUT WHATEVER YOU WANT ON THE CANVAS.

WE WANT YOU TO HAVE FUN.

WE WANT YOU TO EXPRESS YOURSELF.

WE WILL ASK YOU TO KEEP A JOURNAL WHERE YOU ARE EXPRESSING THINGS.

AFTER A PERIOD OF TIME, WE WILL TAKE THE CANVAS BACK AND IT WILL BE PART OF OUR COMPILATION OF CANVASES.

THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN SHOWN IN MUSEUM OF TEMPORARY ART IN FINLAND, IN CHINA AND SEVERAL OTHER INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTIONS.

WE'RE VERY EXCITED FOR YOU TO PARTICIPATE AND WE CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO WITH THE CANVAS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

>> ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR BEARING WITH ME FOR THE PRESENTATION.

BASICALLY, THIS IS IT.

WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH DEBRA AND LEILA.

WE WERE DISCUSSING WITH DEBRA AND LEILA WHAT OUR INITIAL THOUGHTS ABOUT HOW WE COULD ORGANIZE IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE AVOID ANY GATHERING FOR A BIG

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CROWD, CROWDS, AT THE ARMORY.

WE ARE DISCUSSING HOW TO DEVELOP A TIMED ENTRANCE, TO HAVE HEALTH AMBASSADORS THAT WILL BE MONITORING THE DOOR AND THE ACCESS IN ORDER TO ENSURE THAT SOCIAL DISTANCING CAN HAPPEN AND EVERYBODY IS WEARING THEIR MASK.

ANOTHER THING THAT WE DISCUSSED WITH DEBRA IS TO ALLOW FOR THE CHILDREN AND FAMILIES TO HAVE FIRST BIDS AT THE THREE TICKETED ENTRANCES FOR THE FIRST TWO WEEKS OF THE EXHIBITION TO ALLOW THE CHILDREN WHO HAVE PARTICIPATED TO GO AND SEE THEIR EXHIBITION.

WHEN I WAS TALKING ABOUT THIS PROJECT TO SOME OF OUR COLLEAGUES HERE, A FRIEND OF MINE WHO GREW UP IN PALM SPRINGS WHEN THEY WERE IN 2ND GRADE THEY VISITED AN ART PROJECT AT SCHOOL THAT WAS KIND OF A DRAGON THAT THE WHOLE CLASS HAD TO DRAW, AND SOMEHOW THEIR TEACHER MANAGED FOR THEIR ENTIRE CLASSWORK, THIS PROJECT TORQUE BE SHOWN AS THE GETTY MUSEUM.

SHE SAID IT'S ONE OF THE MOST IMPACTFUL EXPERIENCES THAT SHE'S HAD, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT HER ACADEMIC LIFE.

I'M HOPING THAT THIS PROJECT WILL ALLOW KIDS IN THE COACHELLA VALLEY TO CONTINUE WITH ARTS EDUCATION THROUGHOUT THESE DIFFICULT TIMES, WITH HOME SCHOOLING AND ALL THE UNCERTAINTIES THAT COVID IS BRINGING, AND THAT WE'LL HAVE A MOMENT, EVEN IF IT'S DISTANCED AND HIGHLY REGULATED, FOR EVERYBODY TO FEEL PROUD OF THEIR WORK AND TO COME AND ENJOY IT.

AND THE EXHIBITION AT THE ARMORY AS PART OF DESERT X2021.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I WOULD LOVE TO TAKE QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE THEM.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S APPROPRIATE IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T HEAR THAT.

I DIDN'T HEAR THAT.

DID SOMEBODY ASK A QUESTION? I DON'T THINK WE'VE HEARD IT.

>> I DON'T THINK SO.

>> I THINK THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN SOME INTERFERENCE.

JUST TO DO WITH SCHEDULING, PUBLIC COMMENT, COMMISSIONERS ARE ALLOWED TO ASK QUESTIONS BUT UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S NOT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR INTERACTIVE DISCUSSION.

WE'D HAVE TO AGENDIZE THE ITEM.

IF THE COMMISSION WANTS TO DIRECT STAFF TO PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR A MORE IN DEPTH CONVERSATION, WE WILL CERTAINLY DO THAT.

OUR APOLOGIES TO THE COMMISSION MEMBERS FOR THAT.

>> THANK YOU.

YOU BROKE UP A BIT, KEVIN, BUT THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.

OF COURSE, I'M OPEN TO HAVING A FURTHER DISCUSSION AT A FURTHER OCCASION.

>> DOES ANY COMMISSIONER HAVE ANY CLARIFYING QUESTIONS YOU'D LIKE TO ASK JENNY?

>> YES, I DO.

WILL THIS BE EXCLUSIVELY THE WORK BY CHILDREN OR WILL OSCAR'S WORK BE PART OF THIS PROJECT?

>> SO, THIS IS A PROJECT -- THIS IS ALL ABOUT THE CHILDREN, THIS PROJECT.

OSCAR IS AIMING TO KIDS BETWEEN 7 AND 14 YEARS OLD.

IT WILL NOT BE OSCAR'S WORK, NO.

IT WILL BE THE CHILDREN'S.

>> WHEN YOU SAY THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE A DRIVE-THRU TRAFFIC EXHIBITION, THIS IS THE EXHIBITION, RIGHT?

>> THIS WOULD BE AN EXHIBITION THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE DESERT X 2021 EXHIBITION.

THERE WILL BE ABOUT EIGHT TO TEN OTHER ART INSTALLATIONS THAT WILL BE IN PARTS OF THE COACHELLA VALLEY.

WE'RE LOOKING AT PALM SPRINGS, COACHELLA, PALM DESERT AND DESERT HOT SPRINGS.

THE WAY WE EXPECT PEOPLE TO INTERACT WITH OUR EXHIBITION IS TO DOWNLOAD A MAP OR PICK IT UP AT OUR POINT AND THEY'RE INVITED TO JOIN THE ITINERARY TO DISCOVER THE DIFFERENT ART INSTALLATIONS.

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>> THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS? NO.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, JENNY.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS.

DO WE WANT TO MOVE THIS ON TO NEXT AGENDA?

>> YES.

>> THANK YOU.

>> MY EARLIER COMMENT WAS BASED ON THE BROWN ACT WHICH IS A STATE LAW THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW TO HAVE A FULL CONVERSATION, YOU WOULD HAVE TO AGENDIZE THIS.

IF THE COMMISSION WANTS TO DO THAT, WE CAN PUT IT ON THERE.

WHAT YOU HAD WAS APPROPRIATE FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION.

>> THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WITH THAT, WE CAN CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND MOVE ON TO ITEM 4.

[4. MINUTES:]

APPROVING MINUTES OF JUNE 16TH.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT THOSE MINUTES? IF NOT, CAN I GET SOMEBODY TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF JUNE 16, 2020?

>> I MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF JUNE 16, 2020.

>> I'LL SECOND THAT.

>> THE ROLL CALL VOTE.

CHAIR PERSON BECERRA?

>> YES.

>> THOMAS BUCK?

>> YES.

>> BILL SCHINSKY?

>> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER NEUMEYER?

>> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER CRUZ?

>> YES.

>> MOTION CARRIES 5-0.

ITEM 4.2, MINUTES OF AUGUST 11, 2020.

DO ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT THOSE MINUTES? IF NOT, CAN WE GET SOMEBODY TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF AUGUST 11, 2020?

>> I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THOSE MINUTES OF AUGUST 11, 2020.

>> I'LL SECOND.

>> CHAIR PERSON BECERRA?

>> YES >> VICE CHAIR PERSON BUCK?

>> I'LL ABSTAIN.

>> COMMISSIONER NEUMEYER?

>> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER SCHINSKY?

>> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER CRUZ?

>> YES.

>> MOTION CARRIES 4-1.

>> THERE'S NO ACTION ITEM.

MOVE ON TO STAFF ITEMS 6.1 MURAL CONSERVATOR VIEW AND DIGITAL PRINT.

[6.1 Mural Conservator RFQ / Digital Form Update]

>> THANK YOU.

I KNOW THE LAST TIME YOU SPOKE ABOUT THE FORMS AND I WENT TO MATTHEW AND WE LOOKED AT THE FORMS. THEY WORK.

RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THE DIGITAL FORM, IT'S ACTUALLY UP ON THE WEBSITE, ON THE ARTS PAGE, BUT IT'S DORMANT RIGHT NOW PENDING APPROVAL FROM MARK.

ONCE HE APPROVES THE FINAL DRAFT, WE CAN MAKE IT LIVE.

AT THIS POINT MY WORK ON IT IS COMPLETE, OTHER THAN TO MAKE THE RQ AND MAKE THE FORM LIVE ON THE WEBSITE.

SO WHAT WE LEARNED, WE FIGURED OUT A FEW KINKS WITH THE DIGITAL FORMS. MOVING FORWARD, RIGHT NOW I'M JUST DRAFTING ALL OF THE OTHER FORMS FOR THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL BOX AND THE OTHERS.

I HAVE LEARNED KIND OF WHAT THE PROCESS IS.

I'M ALL GOING TO BE HAVING A TRAINING WITH THEM ON HOW TO DO THEM MYSELF, SO I WON'T HAVE TO DO THAT IN THE CREATION OF THE FORMS, WHICH WILL MAKE THINGS EASIER FOR THE PROJECT GOING FORWARD.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE ASK.

>> WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 6.2 THEN.

[6.2 Arts and Humanities Month Discussion]

HUMANITIES DISCUSSION.

>> HUMANITIES MONTH IS THE MONTH OF OCTOBER.

GIVEN THAT WE'RE IN COVID AND, YOU KNOW, THINGS ARE THE WAY THAT THEY ARE, I

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WAS THINKING IT WOULD BE GREAT FOR US TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO, WHETHER DIGITALLY OR OTHERWISE, TO CELEBRATE AND BRING ATTENTION TO THE ART AND ARTISTS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

WHAT I WILL DO, WHAT I DID LAST YEAR, I'M GOING TO PUT FORWARD A PROCLAMATION FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF OCTOBER HUMANITIES MONTH.

BUT I WAS THINKING -- I MEAN, I HAVE A COUPLE OF IDEAS.

CITY ART HAS A HASH TAG CALLED SHOW YOUR ART, WHERE THEY ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO POST WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING OR SHARE THEIR STUDIO SPACE WITH THAT HASH TAG.

I FIGURED WE WOULD BE ABLE TO PROBABLY GO A STEP FURTHER AND PERHAPS HAVE PEOPLE SHOW THE STUDIOS LOCALLY OR SHARE SOME WORK THEY'VE BEEN DOING JUST TO HIGHLIGHT THE OTHERS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

I, OF COURSE, AM OPEN TO YOUR IDEAS ABOUT WHAT YOU THINK WE SHOULD DO AND WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO DO SO WE CAN FIND IT OUT EARLY ENOUGH SO THAT IT CAN ACTUALLY HAPPEN.

>> YEAH.

DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING BEFORE I GO?

>> GO AHEAD.

>> I THINK THAT WE CAN DO A LOT ON SOCIAL MEDIA WITH HIGHLIGHTING OUR ARTISTS, OUR CITY AND THE VALLEY.

I KNOW A LOT OF ARTISTS ARE WORKING ON THINGS, AND I THINK IF WE GIVE THEM THAT SPACE, IT WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD IDEA TO ALLOW THEM A PLATFORM THAT WE CAN OFFER.

>> I'M SURE WE WILL BE ABLE TO WORK WITH BROOKE, OUR NEW COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR.

I KNOW SHE'S REALLY MEDIA SAVVY AND SHE'S REALLY GETTING THE INSTAGRAM AND THE CITY'S FACEBOOK UP, SO WE CAN ALSO INCLUDE HER IN SHARING THE MESSAGE AND DRAWING PEOPLE TO WHOEVER IT IS WE DECIDE TO DO.

AGAIN, IF SOMEONE WANTS TO WORK WITH ME ON THAT, WE CAN PROBABLY DO THAT.

OR IF NOT, JUST E-MAIL ME YOUR IDEAS AND WE CAN SEE WHAT'S POSSIBLE.

WE CAN SHOW THEM TO BROOKE AND SEE WHAT SHE THINKS.

>> I WOULD LOVE TO WORK WITH YOU.

>> THANKS.

>> WHEN WE'RE SAYING SOCIAL MEDIA, ARE WE TALKING INSTAGRAM, FACEBOOK, YOU

TUBE, ALL THE GENERAL SITES >> I'M AWARE THE CITY HAS INSTAGRAM AND FACEBOOK, AND THERE'S AN ARTS FACEBOOK PAGE.

I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE SOMEONE ELSE -- I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE A YOU TUBE THAT'S ACTIVE.

IF THERE'S SOMEONE THAT WANTS TO POST A VIDEO -- I'M SORRY.

I DIDN'T CATCH THAT.

>> SORRY.

THE CITY DOES HAVE A YOU TUBE CHANNEL.

>> ALL RIGHT.

I FEEL LIKE IF THERE'S VIDEOS TO SHARE, WE CAN PLACE IT ON YOU TUBE AND JUST LINK IT TO FACEBOOK.

I DON'T THINK YOU CAN PUT VIDEOS ON INSTAGRAM, BUT, AGAIN, I WOULD REFER TO PERHAPS I.T.

OR BROOKE, WHO DOES IT ALL THE TIME.

IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE ARTIST AND WHAT MATERIAL THEY WISH TO SHARE AND WHAT'S THE APPROPRIATE VENUE FOR IT.

>> SO IF YOU AND I.T.

WILL BE WORKING TOGETHER, YOU WILL BE COMING UP WITH ARTISTS, WHAT THEY CAN AND CANNOT SHOW, ETC?

6 >> I AM NOT NECESSARILY LETTING AN ARTIST TAKE OVER FACEBOOK.

THERE'S SOMETHING THEY HAVE DONE, THEY SEND THEIR SOCIAL OVER TO THE ARTIST TO POST ON THEIR PAGE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.

IT MIGHT BE THAT SOMEONE WOULD SEND US WHAT THEY WANT US TO POST AND -- >> OH, OKAY.

>> I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT, WE SHOULD PROBABLY CREATE SOME GUIDELINES, ACTUALLY, BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE IN LINE WITH THE CITY'S GUIDELINES ON WHAT CAN BE ON THEIR SOCIAL.

I'M SURE PEOPLE WILL USE THEIR DISCRETION, BUT WE CAN ALSO WRITE UP SOME GUIDELINES.

NOTHING TOO COMPLICATED BECAUSE WE WANT TO IT BE EASY AND FUN, SHOWCASING THE ARTWORK AND ARTISTS.

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>> I'M SURE THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO WILL SEND YOU 100 IMAGES AND THEY WILL BE VERY UPSET THAT THEY'RE NOT ALL SHOWN.

>> YES.

WE WILL HAVE TO KIND OF CREATE SOME -- AND THEN ALSO, TOO, WHAT I WAS KIND OF HOPING TO DO WITH THAT IS MAYBE GET ENOUGH INFORMATION AHEAD OF TIME SO WE CAN PRELOAD THEM ON, ON THE WEBSITE.

AGAIN, IT DEPENDS ON HOW MANY PEOPLE, IF IT'S ENOUGH TO DO ONCE A WEEK, EVERY DAY, COUPLE TIMES A WEEK FOR THE MONTH.

WE'D HAVE TO SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED.

AND, OF COURSE, AS COMMISSIONERS, YOU GUYS ARE ALSO TAPPED INTO THE ARTS COMMUNITY, SO PLEASE LET YOUR COMMUNITIES KNOW THAT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY SO THAT THEY CAN KIND OF TAILOR WHAT IT IS THEY WANT TO SHOW AND WHAT FORMAT.

>> OKAY.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF NOT WE'LL MOVE ON TO DIRECTOR ITEMS. ARE THERE ANY DIRECTOR ITEMS? NO?

>> I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T CATCH THAT.

>> I THINK I'M HAVING SOME ISSUES WITH MY SOUND.

THERE ARE NO ITEMS TO REPORT.

>> THANK YOU.

ITEM 8, COMMISSIONER ITEMS.

[8. COMMISSIONER ITEMS:]

ITEM 8.1 SUBCOMMITTEE PROPOSAL.

WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS?

>> SO FAR ITEM 8.1 I HAVE -- MISS RIVERA, CAN YOU HEAR US? OKAY.

CAN YOU HEAR US?

>> YES.

CAN YOU HEAR ME?

>> YES.

YOU HAVE THREE PHEUPB ITS.

>> OKAY.

THANK YOU.

MY NAME IS VANESSA.

I AM A RESIDENT OF INDIO.

I KNOW THERE WAS SOME COMMUNICATION IN THE LAST MEETING REGARDING MAYBE CERTAIN COMMISSIONERS KIND OF LOGGING OFF AND WORKING ON A STRATEGIC PLANNING COMMITTEE, A SUBCOMMITTEE, SO I WANTED TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT OF THE PROPOSAL FOR A STRATEGIC PLANNING SUBCOMMITTEE.

I ATTENDED THE SCHOOL SETTING RETREAT IN MAY OF 2019 AND A SPECIAL PUBLIC ART COMMISSION MEETING IN OCTOBER 2019 WHERE STRATEGIC PLANNING WAS DISCUSSED AT LENGTH.

I ALSO WATCHED THE MOST RECENT COMMISSION MEETING IN AUGUST IN ADDITION TO BEING IN ATTENDANCE OF A NUMBER OF OTHER MEETINGS.

AND AFTER OBSERVING THE CONVERSATIONS AND BEHAVIOR AT THESE MEETINGS, IT IS CLEAR TO ME THAT CERTAIN COMMISSIONERS MAYBE STILL DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE AND STRUCTURE OF THE STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS, AND I'M WORRIED THAT WITH NO SUBCOMMITTEE AND IF IT'S JUST DONE AS A WHOLE, AS IT HAS BEEN, THOSE COMMISSIONERS WILL HOLD BACK THE PROCESS AND VALUES WILL NOT BE AGREED UPON.

IF THAT NEVER HAPPENS, THEN TRANSPARENCY AND INTEGRITY FOR INDIO'S PUBLIC ART WOULD BE WEAKENED.

I ALSO BELIEVE THE FACILITATOR DURING THIS PROCESS, THE MANAGEMENT ANALYST, MISS DEBRA, HAS BEEN CLEAR AND DOES NOT DESERVE SOME OF THE HOSTILITY THAT SHE'S RECEIVED IN THESE MEETINGS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> OKAY.

THE NEXT TWO COMMENTS ARE TO BE READ INTO THE RECORD.

FIRST ONE BY ADRIE TPHR NA RIVERA.

AS A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY I HAVE BEEN IN ATTANCE TENDANCE OF THE ARTS COMMISSION SINCE THE BEGINNING OF 2019.

IN THAT TIME I HAVE BECOME FAMILIAR WITH THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND I DO SUPPORT A SUBCOMMITTEE TO GET IT COMPLETED.

I UNDERSTAND IT MIGHT BE TOO EXHAUSTING TO SOME PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOT BEEN IN AN EDUCATIONAL SETTING.

I UNDERSTAND THE COMPENSATION FOR THIS WORK IS NOT ENOUGH.

FURTHERMORE, I UNDERSTAND THAT DEDICATION TO COMMUNITY AND UPLIFTING ARTISTS ARE WORTH THIS ENDURING TASK.

LASTLY, I UNDERSTAND THIS TRANSPARENCY FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE SAT ON THE COMMISSION BEFORE WITH NO REGARD TO ACCOUNTABILITY.

IF IT IS SEEM THAT A SUBCOMMITTEE IS NOT THE APPROPRIATE OPTION, THEN I ENCOURAGE COMMISSIONER NEUMEYER AND BILL SCHINSKY TO RESIGN.

NOW MORE THAN EVER, REPRESENTATION AND ALL COMMISSIONS AND PLACES WHERE IDEAS ARE FORMULATED MATTER.

IT WOULD BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF ALL OF THESE MEMBERS IF YOU WOULD REPLACE.

I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO RE-EVALUATE HOW YOU CAN HELP MOVE THIS COMMITTEE FORWARD BECAUSE THE OBVIOUS ANSWER TO ME IS REMOVING YOURSELF FROM IT.

RESPECT TO ALL COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF AND CITIZENS.

THANK YOU AND TAKE CARE.

THE NEXT ONE FROM MR. JONATHAN BATHEDA.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

I'M LOCAL COMMUNITY ORGANIZER AND RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF INDIO.

I FULLY SUPPORT ITEM 8.1, PROPOSAL OF A SUBCOMMITTEE.

I BELIEVE IT IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO SET GUIDELINES THE COMMUNITY CAN FOLLOW.

IT IS IMPORTANT SO THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN HOLD ITS OFFICIALS ACCOUNTABLE.

THE CITY OF INDIO HOLDS THE LARGEST MUSIC AND ARTS EVENT IN THE WORLD AND WE CAN'T EVEN SET THE PATH FOR THE COMMUNITY TO FACILITATE ITS OWN ARTISTIC EXPRESSION.

I BELIEVE THE COMMISSION MEMBERS IN FAVOR OF A SUBCOMMITTEE UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO GET THIS INITIAL PHASE DONE AND DONE CORRECTLY.

AGAIN, PLEASE VOTE TO PASS A SUBCOMMITTEE ITEM 8.1.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THAT IS IT.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

I PROPOSE THE SUBCOMMITTEE.

AFTER OUR LAST MEETING, I REACHED OUT TO DEBRA AND THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT CREATING A SUBCOMMITTEE TO NOT JUST CONCLUDE THE PROCESS, BUT COMPLETE IT.

I THINK THAT YOU CAN CONTINUE USING THE EXISTING INFORMATION THAT WE'VE BEEN COMPILING THROUGHOUT THE PAST COUPLE YEAR, BUT IT'S FINE WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING.

SO USING THAT INFORMATION IN THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND COMPLETING IT ON A WEEKLY BASIS IS WHAT THESE MEETINGS WOULD BE SO WE CAN COMPLETE IT BY OCTOBER.

SO WE'LL BE HAVING THE ORIGINAL TWO COMMISSIONERS, STAFF AND ALSO MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY TO BE PART OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE TO CONCLUDE AND COMPLETE THE STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS.

SO I'M LOOKING FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND CREATING AND MAKING THE SUBCOMMITTEE.

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DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING THEY'D LIKE TO KNOW ABOUT.

>> I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION BECAUSE I WAS ABSENT AT THE LAST MEETING AND I AM SEMICAUGHT UP ON WHAT WAS HAPPENING.

IS IT JUST A DEBATE FOR TWO COMMISSIONERS OR THERE ARE ALREADY TWO SELECTED COMMISSIONERS FOR THE SUBCOMMITNY?

>> I AM ALSO ASKING FOR MYSELF AND CECE TO BE PART OF IT.

BUT IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO BE PART OF IT.

>> A SUBCOMMITTEE CAN'T HAVE A QUORUM.

IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED AN OFFICIAL COMMISSION MEETING.

THE REASON A SUBCOMMITTEES ARE USUALLY TWO PEOPLE SO THAT THERE IS A COMMISSION

QUORUM >> IT WOULD BE VOTING IN FAVOR OF A SUBCOMMITTEE, CHAIR PERSON BECERRA AND CITY STAFF?

>> I WOULD HAVE VENESSA ANSWER THAT.

I THINK SHE'S PROPOSING -- >> A SUBCOMMITTEE.

>> OKAY.

>> YEAH.

I'M ASKING FOR THE FORMATION OF A SUBCOMMITTEE TO COMPLETE THE STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS.

AND WE'LL HOPEFULLY IT HAVE DONE BY OUR NEXT MEETING, SO WE WILL BE ABLE TO GET FEEDBACK FROM Y'ALL ABOUT WHAT WE CONCLUDED.

IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO -- I'M ASKING FOR AN APPROVAL.

>> YOU HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION.

TO HAVE THE SUBCOMMITTEE FORMED.

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I IMAGINE YOU NEED A SECOND AND A VOTE.

AM I RIGHT?

>> IN ORDER TO TAKE MOTION OFF THE AGENDA AS AN ACTION ITEM BUT YOU CAN'T HAVE CONSENSUS.

LEGALLY, YOU'D HAVE TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA IN ORDER TO VOTE ON IT.

>> HAVE WE DONE THAT BEFORE FOR THE SUBCOMMITTEE? FOR THE OTHER SUBCOMMITTEES THAT WE'VE FORMED?

>> I DON'T KNOW.

I WASN'T AROUND.

TYPICALLY FOR MOTION ACTIONS, VOTEABLE ACTIONS, THEY HAVE TO BE AGENDIZED AS SUCH IN ORDER TO MEET THE BROWN ACT REQUIREMENT.

THE COMMISSION CAN HAVE CONSENSUS AMONG THE COMMISSION MEMBERS, THEN THEY DON'T NEED TO TAKE A VOTING ACTION.

>> OKAY.

>> CAN WE GET CONSENSUS ON CONTINUING OUR PROCESS AND COMPLETING IT?

>> WHERE ARE THE PUBLIC PARTICIPANTS?

>> I DON'T HAVE ANY YET, PER SE, BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT I DO HAVE IN MIND THAT ARE PART OF THE COMMUNITY.

IF YOU ALL HAVE ANY PEOPLE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE PART OF IT, IT'S DEFINITELY OPEN TO BE PART OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE.

>> IN THE PAST WE USUALLY HAD TO HAVE NAMES AT LEAST TO AGREE ON WHO'S ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE.

LOOKS LIKE WE'RE JUST CREATING ONE OUT OF THIN AIR.

WHICH IS FINE, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE TWO HAND PICKED COMMISSIONERS AND THAT'S IT.

>> IF YOU WANT NAMES, I HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE INTERESTED.

I HAVEN'T ASKED THEM YET BECAUSE HAVEN'T MADE THE SUBCOMMITTEE YET.

IT'S NOT OFFICIAL.

SO I DON'T WANT TO NAME THEM HERE IF I DIDN'T ASK THEM.

I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN IT TO YOU ALL, TOO, IF YOU HAVE ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE PART OF ENGAGING IN THIS PROCESS, THEN DEFINITELY GIVE US THEIR NAMES, TOO.

WE CAN PUT THEM IN THE POOL.

>> SAME GOES FOR ME.

I HAVE A FEW MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY WHO ARE INVOLVED WITH THE ARTS THAT I KNOW THAT IF I ASK THEM, THEY WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED IN BEING A PART OF IT.

>> I THINK IT'S ALWAYS A GOOD IDEA IF YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET YOUR COMMUNITY INVOLVED AND GET YOUR COMMUNITY INVOLVED.

I THINK BEFORE I AGREE ON ANYBODY, I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHO THE PEOPLE ARE AND WHAT THEIR BACKGROUNDS ARE, WHAT ARE THEIR QUALIFICATIONS?

>> I CAN TELL YOU THE QUALIFICATIONS OF THE PEOPLE THAT I HAVE IN MIND.

THEY ARE DOING WORK IN THE COMMUNITY.

THEY WORK WITH OTHER NONPROFITS WHO HAVE DONE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WORK.

THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF PEOPLE THAT I AM LOOKING FOR.

OTHER ARTISTS AS WELL, WHO SEEK TO HAVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITIES, RIGHT, THAT WE OFFER IN A PUBLIC ARTS, WHO WANT ACCESS TO OUR PROGRAMS. THOSE ARE THE KIND OF FOLKS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ON A SUBCOMMITTEE, BUT EVERYBODY IS OPEN TO WHO THEY WOULD WANT TO SEE, RIGHT?

>> IF THEY'RE APPROPRIATE, THEY'RE APPROPRIATE.

THAT'S FINE.

I'D JUST LIKE TO KNOW WHO THEY ARE BEFORE A FORMAL SUBCOMMITTEE IS SET UP.

I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHO THESE FOLKS ARE AND WHAT THEIR BACKGROUNDS AND EXPERTISE.

>> OKAY.

THAT'S FAIR.

SO DO WE HAVE A CONSENSUS TO FORM THIS WITHOUT KNOWING THEIR BACKGROUNDS? WE ARE SORT OF WITHOUT A PRESENTATION, SO I TRUST Y'ALL TO CARRY THAT WHEN YOU FIND PEOPLE TO BE PART OF A SUBCOMMITTEE.

IF YOU WANT TO FIND PEOPLE FOR THE SUBCOMMITTEE, I THINK WE ALL HAVE -- WE'VE ALL BEEN DOING THE WORK, RIGHT?

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WE'VE DONE THE VISION, THE MISSION.

WE DO SEE WHERE WE WANT TO HAVE THIS COMMISSION AND STRATEGIC PLANNING GOING, SO IF WE CAN HAVE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO ENGAGE IN THE PROCESS THEN THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT I'M LOOKING FOR FOR THE SUBCOMMITTEE.

RIGHT? PEOPLE WHO WANT TO ENGAGE.

>> I THINK YOU CAN GET CONSENSUS ON TWO COMMISSIONER MEMBERS, BUT NORMALLY WE PRESENT WITH NAMES, YOU KNOW, AHEAD OF TIME AND WE HAVE MORE THAN JUST SAYING SUBCOMMITTEE ON THE AGENDA WITH A SUBJECT OF WHAT IT IS AND SOME BACKGROUND.

I SAY GO FOR IT, IF YOU HAVE SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO DO THE WORK, GREAT, BUT IT'S NICE TO KNOW WHO THEY ARE.

I'M DISHEARTENED TO HEAR WHAT SOME PEOPLE THOUGHT WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT TRANSPARENCY AND WHAT'S HAPPENING IS WE'RE BEING PRESENTED WITH THINGS FIRST TIME NEW AND NOT A CHANCE TO GO THROUGH ANYTHING AND BEING ASKED TO VOTE ON UNSEEN INFORMATION, OR AT LEAST TO AGREE ON IT.

THAT'S JUST MY TWO CENTS.

IF YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE WHO WANT IT.

I MEAN, MY TERM IS UP.

IT'S NOT THAT I'M NOT TRYING TO DO THE WORK.

IF YOU'VE GOT SOMEONE ELSE WHO YOU WOULD RATHER DEAL WITH, IF IT'S YOUR BROTHER

OR WHO EVER, THEN I SUGGEST -- >> IT'S NOT MY BROTHER, FOR SURE, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU GUYS ARE ASKING.

IT'S MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY WHO ARE DOING WORK FOR THE COMMUNITY.

RIGHT? THAT'S WHO I'M ULTIMATELY LOOKING FOR.

THAT'S WHY I'M HERE, BECAUSE I WANT TO DO THIS WORK FOR MY COMMUNITY, RIGHT? I WANT TO ALLOW A PATHWAY TO OUR PUBLIC ARTS FOR OUR ARTISTS AND OUR COMMUNITY, AS WELL AS ARTISTS FROM OUTSIDE OUR VALLEY, RIGHT? WE NEED TO WORK ON THAT TOGETHER.

TOGETHER MEANS WITH OUR COMMUNITY.

WHEN WE HAVE A LACK OF ENGAGEMENT IN THE PROCESS ALREADY.

SO I'M ASKING IF YOU ALL HAVE A CONSENSUS, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH A SUBCOMMITTEE PROCESS SO WE CAN CONCLUDE IT BY OUR NEX MEETING BECAUSE WE WOULD LIKE TO GET STARTED.

>> WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT THERE'S INTEREST IN KNOWING WHO IS BEING PROPOSED FOR THIS SUBCOMMITTEE.

I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT IF IT IS THAT CONSENSUS IS GIVEN AT THIS POINT, WE CAN FORMULATE THE LIST, HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING SO YOU CAN PRESENT THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CHECK THEIR AVAILABILITY AND EVERYTHING.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, MAYBE HAVE THE COMMISSION VOTE ON IT AT THAT POINT, IF THAT'S THE PROCESS THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH.

THAT'S JUST MY RECOMMENDATION.

>> I AGREE WITH E.J.

IT'S FINE WHEN TWO COMMISSIONERS ARE ON IT.

I DO LIKE HAVING COMMUNITY MEMBERS INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS.

THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE WE'RE SUPPOSEDLY DOING THE WORK FOR.

BUT I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHO THOSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE.

>> THAT MAKES SENSE.

>> OKAY.

SO CAN WE GET CONSENSUS ON THAT? CAN WE INTRODUCE THOSE PEOPLE IN SUBCOMMITTEE? CAN WE GET THE SUBCOMMITTEE ESTABLISHED AND THEN INTRODUCE THE PEOPLE TO YOU AS A COMMISSION SO WE CAN WORK ON IT?

>> OBVIOUSLY, YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE ON THE COMMISSION WHO ARE WILLING TO DO IT.

SO YOU'VE GOT YOUR COMMISSION PEOPLE.

AND THEN JUST -- I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHO THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE THAT ARE GOING TO BE ON IT WITH YOU.

>> THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO, DEBRA? CAN WE GET CONSENSUS ON HAVING THE TWO COMMISSIONERS AND THEN BRING IN OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS AFTER, AFTER LETTING THE COMMISSIONERS KNOW WHO THOSE PEOPLE WILL BE, AFTER THOSE PEOPLE AGREE, RIGHT?

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WE DON'T WANT TO INTRODUCE PEOPLE ONTO THE SUBCOMMITTEE IF THEY HAVEN'T AGREED TO WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE DOING AND WHEN WE'RE MEETING.

>> WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE IS THAT COMMISSIONER SCHINSKY AND NEUMEYER -- I'M SORRY? I DIDN'T CATCH THAT.

IT JUST SOUNDS LIKE THEY BOTH ARE FINE WITH THE SUBCOMMITTEE PROVIDED THAT THEY GET THE NAMES OF THE PEOPLE FOR THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

VICE CHAIRMAN BUCK, WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM YOU.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED TO JUMP IN HERE.

>> SURE.

I'M JUST NOT SURE WHAT THE PROCESS IS OF GIVING CONSENSUS SO I AM ABSOLUTELY IN FAVOR OF GETTING A SUBCOMMITTEE OFF THE GROUND THAT'S GOING TO HELP US WRAP UP THIS PROCESS, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S BY THE NEXT MEETING BECAUSE THEN WE CAN GO FORWARD WITH THAT.

I'M COMPLETELY OKAY WITH TWO COMMISSIONERS BEING ON THE COMMITTEE.

LIKE COMMISSIONER SCHINSKY, IT'S GREAT TO KNOW WHO THEY RRBG BUT I TRUST THE COMMISSIONERS TO FIND ACTIVE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.

I FEEL LIKE IF SOMEBODY IS IN THE COMMUNITY AND THEY'RE WILLING TO PARTICIPATE, THAT THAT'S A RELATIVELY SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE AND I DON'T WANT TO -- BEGGARS CAN'T BE CHOOSERS AT THAT POINT.

I WOULD ALMOST SUGGEST, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS IS OFFICIALLY, BUT WE GIVE OUR CONSENSUS TO GET THE SUBCOMMITTEE GOING AND THEN SCHEDULE A SPECIAL MEETING TO ACTUALLY VOTE ON IMPLEMENTING IT ONCE WE HAVE THE MEMBERS THERE TO VOTE ON.

AT A LATER DATE.

>> OKAY.

>> A QUICK RESPONSE, COMMISSIONER BUCK.

WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH COMMISSION BUSINESS, BEGGARS SHOULD BE CHOOSERS, YEAH.

I WANT TO KNOW.

>> RIGHT.

THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING TO GET TO A POINT WHERE YOU CAN EVEN KNOW WHO THEY ARE, WE HAVE TO HAVE A SUBCOMMITTEE THAT THEY COULD BE PART OF IN THE FIRST PLACE.

>> YEAH YEAH.

>> WE HAVE TO HAVE A COMMITTEE NAMED SO WE CAN HAVE SOMEBODY IN THE CHAIR.

>> I AGREE WITH ESTABLISHING A SUBCOMMITTEE.

I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHO THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE WHO WILL WORK WITH THE COMMISSION MEMBERS.

WHO THEY ARE, WHAT ARE THEIR QUALIFICATIONS?

>> SOUNDS LIKE THE THING TO DO.

>> ARE WE OKAY WITH SCHEDULING A SHORT SPECIAL MEETING TO LET Y'ALL KNOW WHO THOSE COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE THAT WILL BE ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE? ONCE WE'VE GONE AHEAD AND REACHED OUT TO THEM AND CONFIRMED THAT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO MEET OUR MEETING?

>> SURE.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION.

DO WE EVEN NEED TO HAVE A MEETING.

CAN WE JUST SHARE THE NAME AND IF ANYONE HAD A PROBLEM OR QUESTION, YOU COULD FOLLOW IT UP BY E-MAIL, IF ANYONE SAID OTHERWISE? WE WOULDN'T EVEN HAVE TO HAVE A MEETING.

IS THAT POSSIBLE?

>> WHAT I CAN DO WHEN I GET THE LIST OF NAMES, YOUR IDEAS EXPRESSED ON THE PROCESS.

ONCE I GET THE NAMES I WILL SEND OUT AN E-MAIL AND YOU CAN E-MAIL ME INDIVIDUALLY IF YOU FEEL LIKE THERE'S A CONFLICT OR RED FLAG OR WHATEVER.

AND IF THERE ARE TOO MANY OF THOSE QUESTIONS, I GUESS WE CAN SCHEDULE SOMETHING.

IF THERE'S NO PROBLEMS, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.

THAT'S WHAT MAKES SENSE TO ME.

I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE A VIOLATION OF ANYTHING.

>> ONE THING, YEAH, YOU CAN'T MAKE DECISIONS THAT WOULD OTHERWISE BE PUBLIC BY E-MAIL.

IF THE INTENT -- WE WANT TO APPROVE THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, THAT'S AN ACTION ITEM THAT HAS TO BE ACTION HAS TO BE TAKEN ON, IT HAS TO BE AGENDIZED.

IF TONIGHT THE COMMISSION SAID WE'RE GOOD WITH FORMING A SUBCOMMITTEE MADE UP OF TWO COMMISSION MEMBERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND THAT'S THE CONSENSUS, THEN YOU'RE GOOD.

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BUT IF YOU ACTUALLY WANT TO APPROVE INDIVIDUALS, THAT'S AN ACTION ITEM AND THE BROWN ACT SAYS THAT YOU HAVE TO AGENDIZE THAT.

>> OKAY.

>> JUST TO BE CLEAR, YOU'RE SAYING IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO APPROVE COMMUNITY MEMBERS, IT HAS TO BE DONE IN A MEETING WHICH IS AGENDIZED.

>> YES.

IT COULD BE A SPECIAL MEETING, BUT IT HAS TO BE AGENDIZED.

IT HAS TO MEET THE NOTIFICATION PERIOD, WHICH I BELIEVE IS 72 HOURS.

MINUTES HAVE TO BE TAKEN.

JUST FORMAL, ALL THE STUFF YOU NORMALLY DO.

ALTERNATIVELY, THE COMMISSION COULD JUST SAY WE'RE GOOD WITH TWO COMMISSION MEMBERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC IN A CONSENSUS MODE AND YOU COULD STOP THIS EVENING.

>> SO WE CAN GET A CONSENSUS RIGHT NOW.

ARE YOU ALL IN FAVOR OF HAVING CONSENSUS ON THE TWO COMMISSIONERS? WE HAVE THAT, RIGHT?

>> ON THE COMMISSIONERS.

>> SO WE CAN HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING IF YOU ALL ARE IN FAVOR OF HAVING A SPECIAL MEETING? JUST TO GET THE NAMES?

>> SURE.

>> I'M OKAY WITH THAT IF YOU ALL ARE OKAY WITH IT.

>> I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TIME YOU WOULD NEED TO ASSEMBLE YOUR NAMES AND CONTACT THEM TO GET IT SCHEDULED.

ARE WE LOOKING AT -- IT'S ALREADY TUESDAY.

ARE WE LOOKING AT EARLY NEXT WEEK? EVELYN, IF YOU DON'T MIND, FOR A SPECIAL MEETING, IS IT 72 HOURS?

>> I THINK IT'S 24 HOURS.

IS THAT RIGHT?

>> I THINK 72, BUT TECHNICALLY IT'S 24.

ONE THING ALSO TO REMIND THE COMMISSION MEMBERS IS THAT -- BREAKING UP.

>> CAN YOU REPEAT THAT, KEVIN?

>> TALK ABOUT WHAT'S ON THAT AGENDA.

SEEMS LIKE THE AUDIO -- CAN YOU HEAR ME?

>> WE CAN HEAR YOU NOW.

>> SORRY ABOUT THAT.

ALL I WAS SAYING IS WHEN YOU DO A SPECIAL MEETING YOU CAN ONLY TALK ABOUT WHAT'S ON THAT AGENDA.

IF THERE'S ANY OTHER TOPICS YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT, OTHER THAN THIS ITEM, YOU NEED TO PUT IT ON THAT AGENDA, OTHERWISE IT'S ONLY THOSE ITEMS LISTED ON THE AGENDA.

>> YES.

>> CAN WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CONSENSUS ON TWO COMMISSIONERS BEING PART OF A SUBCOMMITTEE FOR THE STRATEGIC PLANNING AND THE WE CAN SCHEDULE A SPECIAL MEETING ONCE WE HAVE CONFIRMED WITH ANY COMMUNITY MEMBERS, AND WE CAN SEND THOSE NAMES OUT AND THEN HAVE A MEETING TO APPROVE THEM FOR THE SUBCOMMITTEE?

>> SOUNDS GOOD.

>> SO WE HAVE CONSENSUS.

ALL RIGHT.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF NOT, I CAN MOVE ON.

ALL RIGHT.

ITEM 8.2, ARE THERE ANY COMMISSIONER REPORTS?

>> CONFIRM THAT.

WHAT WAS THAT? DID I MISS SOMETHING FROM YOU, KEVIN?

>> SORRY.

I APOLOGIZE FOR MY AUDIO.

ALL I SAID IS I JUST DOUBLE-CHECKED AND IT IS 24 HOURS NOTICE FOR SPECIAL MEETINGS.

I WANTED TO RECONFIRM THAT FOR THE RECORD.

>> THANK YOU.

IF THERE ARE NO COMMISSIONER REPORTS, SO NEXT MEETING ITEM, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY MEETING ITEMS FOR OUR NEXT MEETING, ITEMS TO PUT ON THE AGENDA?

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>> PROBABLY SHOULD TALK ABOUT YOUR SUBCOMMITTEE ON STRATEGIC PLANNING.

>> WE SHOULD HAVE THAT.

THAT WOULD BE DESERT X TO BE ON THE AGENDA TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THEM?

>> I'M NOT SURE YET WHEN WE'RE CREATING THE AGENDA.

JENNY WOULD USUALLY GIVE ME SOME FEEDBACK.

OBVIOUSLY, I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO TALK WITH HER IN DEPTH SINCE SHE LEFT A FEW MINUTES AGO.

I WILL CHECK WITH HER AND SEE IF SHE NEEDS TO BE ON THE AGENDA.

>> DEFINITELY JENNY, IF SHE'S GOING TO BE ASKING FOR FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE.

>> YEAH, I KNOW SHE JUST WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE PROJECT TODAY.

IT'S BEING FORMED, SO THAT MIGHT BE A BIT OFF BUT, YEAH.

SHE WILL NEED TO COME BACK IF THAT'S THE CASE.

>> WILL YOU AND CECE HAVE THE ARTS AND HUMANITIES MONTH BY THEN OR WE'LL GET THAT BEFOREHAND?

>> I'M SORRY, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH ARTS AND HUMANITIES MONTH? BY THE NEXT SPECIAL MEETING? YEAH, CECE.

I'LL HAVE TO SCHEDULE TIME, SO WE'LL SEE IF WE HAVE THE CHANCE TO SPEAK ABOUT THAT BEFORE THE NEXT SPECIAL MEETING.

I WANT -- OH, RIGHT.

THAT'S RIGHT.

OKAY.

YEAH, WE WOULD HAVE TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW PRIOR TO OCTOBER, WHICH IS OUR NEXT MONTH.

TIME IS FLYING.

YOU AND I, CECE, CAN GET SOME TIME TO SPEAK ABOUT IT AS SOON AS WE CAN.

WHEN YOU GUYS ARE ABLE TO KIND OF GET FEEDBACK FROM THE SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBERS AND THEN WE'LL SCHEDULE A MEETING.

I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG WE HAVE TO DO THAT.

>> OKAY.

YEAH.

THAT COULD BE THE OTHER ITEM ON THERE.

>> THANK YOU.

>> IF THERE IS NOTHING MORE, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND ADJOURN THE MEETING.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND ADJOURN THIS MEETING AT 6:36 P.M.



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