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>> WELCOME, EVERYONE, TO THE CITY OF INDIO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING FOR
[1. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL]
SEPTEMBER 23, 20.AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET THIS MEETING STARTED.
IF WE COULD HAVE CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL, PLACE.
>> PRESENT EVELYN, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.
>> VICE CHAIRPERSON JACQUELINE LOPEZ.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, EVERYONE.
AND IF WE COULD CONTINUE WITH INTRODUCTION OF STAFF.
>> CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
GOOD EVENING, MADAME CHAIRPERSON AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
TONIGHT STAFF ATTENDING THE MEETING INCLUDES GUSTAVO GOMEZ ASSISTANT PLANNER, NICKY GOMEZ, ASSISTANT PLANNER, ROSIE V.
LIEU A ASSOCIATE PLANNER, DIRECTOR KEVIN SNYDER, EVELYN BELTRAN THE SECRETARY, MARK GEICKER, OUR CITY CONSULTANT TRAFFIC ENGINEER AND ZACH HEINSELMAN, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY, LOPEZ, ASSOCIATE ENGINEER AND BILL, THE CITY'S FIRE MARSHAL.
AND THAT CONCLUDES INTRODUCTION OF STAFF.
AND WE'LL JUST GO AHEAD WITH A STATEMENT FROM THE COMMISSION SECRETARY.
>> THE GENERAL RULES AND COURTESY FOR VIRTUAL MEETINGS ARE AS FOLLOWS.
I SCRIPPED THE PLEDGE OF A REGIS.
CAN WE BACK UP A MOMENT? IF COULD HAVE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND COMMISSION YSIANO WILL LEAD US.
>> PLEASE INJO US IN OUR PLEDGE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER NICCO YSIANO.
AND NOW WE CAN GO TO THE STATEMENT FROM THE COMMISSION SECRETARY.
[4. STATEMENT FROM THE COMMISSION SECRETARY]
>> THE GENERAL YOU ARE RULES OF COURTESY FOR VIRTUAL MEETINGS ARE AS FOLLOWS.
PLEABS MINDFUL OF BACKGROUND NOISE WHEN JOINING THE VIRTUAL MEETING.
PARTICIPANTS MUST MUTE ALL DEVICES.
MEETING PARTICIPANTS MUST MUTE THEIR MICROPHONE TO HELP KEEP BACKGROUND NOISE NINE MUM WHEN THEY ARE NOT SPEAKING.
WITH IMLUR MICROPHONE IS NOT MUTED IT COULD CREATE ADDITIONAL NOISE.
POSITION YOUR CAMERA PROPERLY IF YOU CHOOSE TO USE A, CAMERA.
BE SURE IT IS IN A STABLE POSITION AND FOCUSED AT EYE LEVEL IF POSSIBLE.
I MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE FILES AND/OR LINKS READY TO GO BEFORE THE MEETING BEGINS.
MEMBERS FROM THE PUBLIC WISHING TO PROVIDE ORAL TESTIMONY MUST FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS ON THE AGENDA AND/OR ONLINE IN ORDER TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR AGENDA OR NON-AGENDA ITEMS. MEMBERS FROM THE PUBLIC WISHING TO PROVIDE ORAL TESTIMONY HAVE THREE MINUTES TO PROVIDE ORAL TESTIMONY.
AND NOW WE HAVE A STATEMENT FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY, ZACH.
[5. STATEMENT FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY]
THIS HAVE BEEN NO DIRECTIVE ISSUES HALTING LOCAL GOVERNMENT PROCESSING OF LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW APPLICATIONS AND ORE CONVERSATION POLICY ACTIONS INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENTS, AND/OR AMENDED SPECIFIC PLANS.
THEREFORE, THE CITY OF INDIO CONTINUES TO STEP AND PROCESS APPLICATIONS IN ACCORD OONG WITH STATE AND LOCAL REQUIREMENTS.
THE CITY OF INDIO IS FOLLOWING GOVERNOR NEWSOM'S EXECUTIVE ORDER N-25.
-20 AND PERTAINING TO THE BROWN PACTING THESE EXECUTIVE ORDERS ALLOW GOVERNMENT.
ENTITIES TO CONDUCT MEETINGS BY ELECTRONIC MEANS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO OBSERVE THE MEETING ELECTRONICALLY AS WELL AS PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT OR PUBLIC TESTIMONY TELEPHONICALLY OR OTHERWISE ELECTRONICALLY.
ACCORDINGLY THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE PLANNING COMMISSIONER ARE PLANNING DISIEWLGD MEETING IN VIRTUAL MEETING FORE.
CITY OF INDIO HAS IMPLEMENTED TECHNOLOGY SOLUTIONS THAT ALLOW MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO OBSERVE AND OFFER PUBLIC COMMENT AS WELL AS PUBLIC TESTIMONY DURING PUBLIC HEARINGS AT SCHEDULED PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
THE CITY IS COMMITTED TO PROVIDING PUBLIC PARTICIPATION OPPORTUNITIES WHILE ALSO COMPLYING WITH THE FROIRMTS PROCESSING OF LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW APPLICATIONS AND/OR CONSIDERATION OF POLICY ACTIONS.
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WE CAN MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 6 PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.EVELYN, DO WE HAVE ANY REQUEST TO SPEAK?
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 7.
MINUTES FOR THE -- FOR THE MINUTES OF AUGUST 26, 2020.
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DO I HAVE A RECOMMENDATION OR ANY CORRECTIONS? NOBODY'S GOING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION?>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF AUGUST 26, 2020.
SO IF WE CAN HAVE ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
>> VICE CHAIRPERSON JACQUELINE LOPEZ.
WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND LAUNCH THE PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. BEFORE WE DO THAT I THINK VICE CHAIRPERSON JACQUELINE LOPEZ HAS A STATEMENT SHE NEEDS TO MAKE AT THIS POINT.
>> I'LL GO AHEAD AND ZACH, DID YOU WANT TO DO THAT AND THEN I CAN -- >> SURE.
SO COMMISSIONER LOPEZ WILL BE PARTICIPATING IN THE HEARING ITEM FOR THE VENTANA PROJECT.
SHE HAD PREVIOUSLY RECUSED SETTING REAL PROPERTY INTERESTS IN PROPERTY IN THE VICINITY OF THE PROJECT AREA.
THERE WAS A MISUNDERSTANDING OF COMMISSIONER LÓPEZ'S REAL PROPERTY INTERESTS AND WE DETERMINED UPON FURTHER REVIEW THAT SHE DOES NOT HAVE A REAL PROPERTY INTEREST WITHIN 1,000 FEET OF THE PROJECT VICINITY.
COMMISSIONER LOPEZ HAS INFORMED US THAT FAMILY LIVES IN THE AREA AND THAT SHE HERSELF DOES NOT HAVE REAL PROPERTY INTEREST IN THAT VICINITY.
SHE WILL BE IMPARTIAL IN HER REVIEW OF THIS ITEM.
SHE'S REVIEWED THE MATERIALS FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS.
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED WITH ITEM NUMBER 8.1 VENTANA PROJECT, AND IF WE
[8.1 Ventana Project:]
CAN PLEASE HAVE STAFF REPORT.>> GOOD EVENING, MADAME CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
MY NAME IS LEILA NAMVAR, SENIOR PLANNER.
I WILL PROVIDE THE PRESENTATION TO THE PROTOCOL VENTANA.
I JUST WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF EVERYBODY CAN SEE MY SHARED SCREEN.
THE PROJECT BEFORE YOU IS VENTANA PROJECT, WHICH IS A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.
THE PROJECT INCLUDES SEVERAL ENTITLEMENTS.
FIRST AND THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE IS THE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT.
THEN SPECIFIC PLAN, TENTATIVE TRACT MAP, AS PART OF THE ENTIRE PROJECT THE APPLICANT HAS DONE AN ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT INCLUDING CONDUCTING AN INITIAL STUDY.
AND IN ADDITION TO ALL NOTED ENTITLEMENTS, THE APPLICANT ALSO IS APPLYING FOR A DESIGN REVIEW.
SO THIS BASICALLY SHOWS THE PROJECT AREA, WHICH IS, AS YOU SEE, IT IS THE RED OUTLINE.
IT IS NORTH OF AVENUE 50 AND EAST OF JEFFERSON STREET.
JEFFERSON STREET IS OUTSIDE THIS MAP.
IT IS BEING LOCATED WITHIN A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
THIS IS THE RED RIVER ESTATES.
AND THEN ONE LARGE LOT SINGLE FAMILY.
AND WHEN WE GO AS WE GO EAST TO MADISON, THERE IS A STONEFIELD AND ALSO MADISON STATE.
ON THE EAST AND SOUTH PARTIALLY SOUTH SOUTH OF THE PROJECT THERE ARE LARGER RESIDENTIAL HOMES, AND TO THE SOUTH IT IS CITY OF LA QUINTA.
SO THIS BASICALLY, THIS SLIDE PROVIDE YOU WITH AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE PROJECT IS PROPOSING.
SO ON THE LEFT SIDE I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THE YELLOW BUBBLES, WHICH THE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT ESTATE NEIGHBORHOOD TO
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SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD TO SET THE OVERARCHING POLICY TO ACCOMMODATE THE DENSITY AND ALSO PROVIDE FINDINGS FOR THE REST OF THE ENTITLEMENTS, WHICH INCLUDES THE SPECIFIC PLAN.THE SPECIFIC PLAN HERE IS TO SET THE ZONING FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AND ALSO GENERAL DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, WHICH MUST BE CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN.
THEN A TENTATIVE TRACT MAP, WHICH IT IS IN ORDER TO SUBDIVIDE THE PROPERTY TO 103 LOTS, AND AGAIN THE DESIGN REVIEW TO APPROVE OR TO PROPOSE A DESIGN FOR THE PROJECT.
SO THE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT, AS I SAID, IT IS FROM ONE DWELLING UNIT TO EIGHT DWELLING UNITS, AND IT NEEDS TO BE EVENTUALLY ULTIMATELY APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO SET THE FOUNDATION FOR THE FINDINGS FOR THE REST OF THE ENTITLEMENT.
THE SPECIFIC PLAN BASICALLY WHEN THE GENERAL PLAN GETS APPROVED, THEN THE SPECIFIC PLAN CAN BE FOUND CONSISTENT OR WE HAVE TO FIND IT CONSISTENT WITH THAT UNDERLYING OR FOUNDATION OF THE GENERAL PLAN.
AND AGAIN, THE TENTATIVE TRACT MAP ALSO THE SUBDIVISION CAN BE MADE WHEN THAT GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT IS APPROVED BECAUSE WE ARE GOING FROM A LOWER DENSITY TO A HIGHER DENSITY.
AND THE DESIGN ALSO NEEDS TO BE FOUND CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN AND THE SPECIFIC PLAN.
SO IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVES THIS SPECIFIC PLAN, WHICH THEY'RE PROPOSING, OR APPROVES THE GENERAL PLAN WHICH THEY'RE PROPOSING OR RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO THE COUNCIL, WHICH THEY'RE PROPOSING TO GO FROM ONE TO EIGHT UNITS AND APPROVE THE PROPOSED SPECIFIC PLAN WHICH THEY ARE CAPPING THE DENSITY AT 2.3, STILL THE APPLICANT OR ANY FUTURE DEVELOPER CAN ASK THE CITY TO INCREASE THAT DENSITY TO 8 UNITS PER ACRE, AND THAT WOULD BE REALLY HARD TO NOT ENTERTAIN IT BECAUSE THE UNDERLYING GENERAL PLAN AT THAT TIME WOULD ALLOW THAT.
SO AS YOU SEE, THIS IS AGAIN THE CURRENT GENERAL PLAN DESIGNATION FOR THIS AREA, WHICH IS DESERT ESTATES.
IT'S KIND OF LIKE OLIVE COLOR.
AND IT GOES BETWEEN 49 AND 50 AND ALL THE WAY TO MONROE, AND PART OF THE AREA IS PAST MONROE AS WELL ON THE SOUTH.
WITHIN THIS AREA THERE'S A COUPLE OF EXCEPTIONS, WHICH IS RALPH'S SHOPPING CENTER IS COMMERCIAL.
TO THE NORTH THERE IS RESIDENTIAL.
AND TO THE EAST THERE IS SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE DECISION WAS MADE AT THE TIME BECAUSE IT WAS REALLY NEXT TO A COMMERCIAL AREA, SO LARGER LOTS MAY NOT HAVE BEEN AS DESIRABLE THERE.
SO THIS DESERT ESTATE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS APPROVED AFTER LONG COMMUNITY DISCUSSIONS, OVER FIVE YEARS, WITH THE INPUT FROM THE STAKEHOLDER, CITY POLICYMAKERS, TO IMPLEMENT BASICALLY THE DESIRE OF THE COMMUNITY AND THE DESIRE OF THE POLICYMAKERS TO THIS AREA OF THE CITY.
CURRENTLY THE ZONING FOR THIS PROPERTY IS CIR 1 AND CIR 2, WHICH IS MINIMUM LOT SIZE 1 ACRE AND 2 ACRES.
S UP THE PROPERTY WITH ABOUT 37 HOMES, AND WITH THE CURRENT GENERAL PLAN DESIGNATION, THE APPLICANT COULD DOUBLE THE PROPERTY WITH 45, ALMOST 45 UNITS.
THIS AGAIN IS AN EXHIBIT FROM THE GENERAL PLAN THAT SHOWS THE SOUTHERN NEIGHBORHOOD.
SOUTHERN NEIGHBORHOOD INCLUDES THE AREA, AS I SAID, IT IS DESERT ESTATE NEIGHBORHOOD, GOES FROM JEFFERSON ALL THE WAY TO MONROE AND TO THE SOUTH.
AND THE GREEN AREA IS THE FESTIVAL DISTRICT, WHICH IS THE FESTIVAL GROUND.
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SO THE SOUTHERN NEIGHBORHOOD IN ANOTHER VERSION, IT IS EXHIBITED IN THIS FIGURE, WHICH WAS MARKED AS LIGHT GRAY, WHICH IS BASICALLY WAS PRESERVE AND MINOR CHANGES WITH A VISION FOR THIS AREA TO BASICALLY KEEP THE RURAL FEEL, KEEP THE LARGER LOTS, AND THEN LESS TRAFFIC AND WHATEVER COMES WITH HAVING LARGER LOTS.SO THIS IS THE TRACT THAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING.
YOU CAN SEE HERE THEY'RE LARGER LOTS TOWARDS THE OUTSIDE OF THE PROJECT AND THERE ARE SMALLER LOTS WITHIN THE INTERIOR SIDE OF THE PROJECT.
THE PROJECT HAS ITS MAIN ENTRANCE FROM AVENUE 50.
ABOUT HERE IT BECOMES GATED, AT THE ROUND ABOUT IT BECOMES GATED, AND THIS AREA IS NOT GATED, AND THAT IS THE PROPOSED TRACT.
THIS EXHIBIT SHOWS YOU THE PLANNING AREAS, WHICH THERE ARE THREE PLANNING AREAS.
PLANNING AREA 1, AS I SAID, SMALLER LOTS.
I SHOULD SAY VERY SMALLER LOTS.
PLANNING AREA 2A WHICH IS THE ORANGE SMALLER, SMALLER LOTS.
AND THEN THE GREEN IS BASICALLY SHOWING THE GREEN BELT AND AMENITIES THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING, AND THIS EXHIBIT GIVES YOU A CONCEPTUAL LANDSCAPE THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT.
THIS IS BASICALLY THE DESIGN OF THE -- OR I SHOULD SAY THIS IS THE DESIGN REVIEW PACKAGE THAT THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED, WHICH IS -- THEY HAVE MODERN ARCHITECTURE WITH ALSO SPANISH INSPIRED ARCHITECTURE.
AS YOU SEE, THESE ARE THE SAME FLOOR MAN, HOWEVER WITH DIFFERENT ELEVATIONS.
AGAIN, OTHER TYPE OF ELEVATIONS AND FLOOR PLANS, WHICH THESE TWO ARE THE SAME FLOOR PLANS, DIFFERENT ELEVATIONS.
THESE ARE THE OTHER DESIGNS THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING.
AND THE DESIGN, IT'S A GOOD DESIGN.
AGAIN, MORE ELEVATIONS, A BIT SMALLER HOMES.
AS YOU SEE THESE ARE TWO-CAR GARAGES IN THE SMALLER HOMES.
HERE AGAIN, SAME TYPE OF FLOOR PLAN.
THIS ON THE RIGHT SIDE, THEY HAVE A BONUS SECOND ROOM OR SECOND FLOOR ROOM FOR THIS FLOOR PLAN.
SAME THING HERE, A BONUS ROOM ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
THEY HAVE A VARIETY OF FLOOR PLANS.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A VARIETY OF FLOOR PLANS.
PICKED A COUPLE OF THEM AND ALSO THEY'RE PROPOSING A VARIETY OF ROOFLINES, WHICH I PICKED AGAIN.
A COUPLE OF THEM YOU HAVE THE ENTIRE THING IN YOUR PACKAGE.
AND THIS IS THE BASICALLY COLOR SCHEME AND THE TYPE OF ROOF TIES WHICH THEY'RE USING WITH TILE AND WITH DIFFERENT COLOR SCHEME.
SO TO GO BACK TO -- I WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK TO BASICALLY WHAT'S WHAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING, WHICH IS THE MAJOR POINT OF IT IS THE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT TO SET THE TONE AND SET BASICALLY THE POLICY FOR THE STAFF.
I DON'T KNOW IF I GOT DISCONNECTED.
NO? SO I SAW MYSELF BEING FROZEN ON THE SCREEN.
SO AGAIN, THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF IT IS THE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT.
THAT SETS THE POLICY FOR THE REST OF THE ENTITLEMENTS.
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AT THIS POINT THE STAFF COULD NOT PRESUME WHAT DIRECTION THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL GO, SO THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO FOCUS ON THAT FIRST, AND IF STAFF IS GOING FORWARD, THEN WE WILL HAVE A BASE TO FIND FINDINGS FOR THE REST OF THIS ENTITLEMENT.AT THIS POINT ALL OF THEM, THE SPECIFIC PLAN FOR US TO APPROVE IT, IT NEEDS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN.
THE CURRENT GENERAL PLAN TALKS ABOUT ONE UNIT PER AREA, DENSITY.
THEN THE TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NEEDS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN AND THE SPECIFIC PLAN.
THERE'S NO SPECIFIC PLAN BECAUSE THE GENERAL PLAN IS NOT THERE, AND THEREFORE APPROVING A TENTATIVE TRACT MAP WITH 103 LOTS WHICH CURRENTLY IS ONLY ALLOWED 45 OR 37, AGAIN STAFF CANNOT FIND FINDINGS, AND THE LAST PIECE WHICH IS DESIGN REVIEW.
IT STILL NEEDS TO BE IN WITH THE GENERAL PLAN AND THE SPECIFIC PLAN.
SO THAT CONCLUDES MY STAFF REPORT.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
AND THE APPLICANT AND APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVES ARE HERE TONIGHT AS WELL TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF AT THIS TIME? NO.
THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO I GUESS THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE CAN HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME.
JUST TO CLARIFY FOR THE RECORD THAT THIS IS A CONTINUED HEARING, SO AS I
UNDERSTAND IT, WE'RE JUST GOING ON TO THE -- >> RIGHT.
>> WE CAN HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME.
GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE CHAIR FRANZ, COMMISSIONER CEJA, YSIANO, LOPEZ AND STAFF.
MARIO GONZALEZ ON BEHALF OF GHA COMMUNITIES, KRAMER LAND COMPANY AND AVENUE 50, LLC.
APPLICANT AND SUBJECT LAND ORES.
30875 DATE PALMY, CATHEDRAL CITY, CALIFORNIA.
FIRST I HOPE EVERYONE AND THEIR LOVED ONES ARE SAFE AND WELL AND I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR EFFORTS IN CONSIDERATION OF THE CIT BUSINESS UNDER THESE CHALLENGING TIMES.
I AM JOINED BY MY PARTNERS BRETT AND MATT FER E OF.
I OUR STRATEGIC ALLIANCE BRINGS OVER 100 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN REAL ESTATE PLANNING, ENTITLEMENT DEVELOPMENT, CONSTRUCTION AND MANAGEMENT OF RESIDENTIAL MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS LOCALLY AND ABROAD.
ALSO PRESENT IS OUR EXPERIENCED TEAM.
CIVIL ENGINEER CHRIS BYRD FROM MBS CONSULTING, ARCHITECTURAL TEAM ART ALVARADO AND SCALES OF KTGY.
LANDSCAPE ACTORS OF HSA LANDSCAPE AND DESIGN, AND OUR PLANNER NICOLE CHRIS.
OUR TEAM WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THE COMMISSION MAY HAVE.
GHA'S IS DEVELOPER OF RECORD IN INDIO FOR THE MONTAGE-SANTA ROSA PROBLEM, LAS COLINAS WANT AS TAISH YEAH, JACKSON AND THE VISTAS AT LAS COLINAS DEVELOPMENTS.
BETTER BY DESIGN IS OUR CULTURE.
HIGH QUALITY PARTS AND ATTENTION TO DETAIL RESULT IN HIGH PRODUCT COMMUNITIES.
THIS IS NEST OUR GHA COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE COACHELLA VALLEY BUILT OVER THE PAST THREE DECADE.
THESE CONTINUES CONTINUE TO REMAIN SUSTAINABLE, RELEVANT AND DEMAND HIGH VALUE RATIOS FOR THEIR HOMES.
ON JANUARY 24TH OF 2020 WE FORMALLY SUBMITTED A PROJECT CONSULTATION HEARING APPLICATION TO THE CITY OF INDIO, AND ON FEBRUARY 12, 2020, WE ATTENDED A PUBLIC HEARING WITH THIS PLANNING COMMISSION.
SINCE THE FEBRUARY 12, 2020 PLANNING HEARING OUR DENSITY, OUR DESIGN HAS NOT CHANGED BUT HAS ONLY GOTTEN BETTER.
WE HAVE REVIEWED THE FEBRUARY 12, 2000 HEARING AND IT REFLECTS THIS PLANNING COMMISSION HAD PRUDENT COMMENTS AND THERE WAS A FAIR AMOUNT OF DISCUSSION REGARDING FILING THE ELLEN J PLAN AMENDMENT.
OUR TEAM LEFT THIS HEARING CONFIDENT WITH THE POSITIVE CONSULTATION HEARING WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND WE PROCEEDED WUR OUR DEVELOPMENT PLANS.
SINCE MID-SEPTEMBER OF 2019, ALMOST A FULL YEAR AGO, OUR DEVELOPMENT TEAM PRUDENTLY SHARED OUR PROJECT VISION, OUR PLANS, AND INFORMATION WITH CITY STAFF AND CITY LEADERS.
WE HAVE ENJOYED AN AMICABLE AND TRANSPARENT WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY OF INDIO.
OUR PROJECT IS TRULY AN INFILL SITE, AND KNOWING THE INHERENT SENSITIVITY AND CHALLENGES OF EXISTING GRADES, DRAINAGE PATTERNS, WET AND DRY UTILITIES, OUR
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SEASONED TEAM HAS CONSIDERED EVERY MEASURE POSSIBLE TO STAY WITHIN THE CHARACTER, THE QUALITY, THE VALUES OF THIS AREA, AND TO MAINTAIN BALANCE WITH THE SURROUNDING LAND USES.ALL DONE WITH THE MINDFUL CONSIDERATION OF OUR EXISTING NEIGHBORS.
IN LESS THAN ONE-HALF A MILE RADIUS FROM VENTANA THERE ARE SEVEN SEPARATE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE EITHER GREATER, EQUAL TO OR UNDER OUR PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT DENSITIES.
VENTANA FITS VERY NICELY INTO THE FABRIC OF THIS AREA OF TOWN.
VENTANA WILL MAINTAIN AND ENHANCE THE QUALITY AND VALUES OF ITS SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, OFFERING A CHOICE OF NEW HOUSIN WITHIN THE DESERT ESTATES AREA.
HAVEN'T TANNA WILL BRING NEW INFRASTRUCTURE, A NEW WATER LINE FROM JEFFERSON STREET IS PART OF THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS.
THE BUILT-OUT OF ITS FRONTAGE ON AVENUE 50 STREET SECTION INCLUDING THE UNDERGROUND OF POWER POLES.
VENTANA AS WELL AS OTHER DEMPLETS A HUGE INVESTMENT OF TIME, FISCAL RESOURCES, AND A REAL COMMITMENT THAT OUR PARTNERSHIP ACCEPTS.
AND MORE IMPORTANTLY THESE PROJECTS REQUIRE A TRANSPARENT UNDERSTANDING AND WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH CITY STAFF.
OUR COMMITMENT, OUR SEASONED TEAM OF PROFESSIONALS' COMMITMENT, OUR PROJECT SCOPES FROM INCEPTION HAVE ALL BEEN GUIDED BY CITY PLANNING STAFF AND CITY ENGINEERING STAFF.
WE ARE CONFIDENT WE HAVE MET AND DESIGNED A DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT MEETS THE PATH AND NEW VISION OF THE CITY.
ON MAY 7TH OF 2020 WE FORMALLY SUBMITTED OUR PROJECT APPLICATION FOR A GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT FROM DESERT ESTATES NEIGHBORHOOD TO SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD, A SPECIFIC PLAN TO ESTABLISH THE ZONING STANDARDS AND GUIDELINES FOR THIS SITE LIMITING THE DEVELOPMENT TO ONLY 2.3 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
A TENTATIVE TRACT MAP MUCH 37884 TO SUR DIVIDE THE PROPERTY INTO 103 LOTS AND LETTERED LOTS FOR INTERIOR STREETS, RETENTION BASINS AND OPEN SPACES.
A DESIGN RERUE STREW FOR APPROVAL CHECK IT AND ARCHITECTURAL PLANS.
A COMPLETE PACKAGE DEM TRAINGT IS OUR PACIFIC PROJECT DETAILS AND THE VISION THAT WE BROUGHT THEY ARE CONSIDERATION, INCLUDING A GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT AND AN OVERALL DENSITY OF 2.3 DWELLING UNITS TO THE ACRE.
VENTANA HAS BEEN CONTINUED THREE TIMES.
I, MY PARTNERS, OUR TEAM IS PUZZLED BY THIS, AND TODAY WE ARE HOPEFUL WE WILL BE SUCCESSFUL.
IT WAS OUR CLEAR UNDERSTANDING THAT AFTER SEPTEMBER 9, 2020 PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING, THIS PLANNING COMMISSION INSTRUCTED STAFF TO BRING A COMPLETE STRENGTH TANNA FROAJ TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION TODAY SEPTEMBER 23, 2020, AND AS YOU CAN FIND IN YOUR PACKAGE THIS IS NOT THE CASE.
THERE ARE NO CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
THERE ARE NO RESOLUTIONS TO APPROVE OR DENY.
THERE IS NO STAFF RECOMMENDATION SUPPORTING OR OPPOSING.
IF I MAY RESPECTFULLY, I WOULD LIKE TO BE VERY CLEAR THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS THAT WE WILL NOT BE BUILDING DENSITIES UP TO 12 -- EXCUSE ME -- EIGHT DWELLING UNITS TO THE ACRES AND WHEEL NOT BE BUILDING TYPICAL TWO-STORY HOMES.
VENTANA'S PLAN FOR AN OVERALL 2.3 DWELLING UNITS TO THE ACRE ARE.
OUR NEIGHBORING DESERT RIVER ESTATES DEVELOPMENT IS 2.2 DENSITY UNITS TO THE ACRE.
VENTANA REQUIRES A GENERAL PLAN AND A SPECIFIC PLAN TO ACHIEVE THE 2.3 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE AND CAN ONLY BE ACHIEVED BY WAY OF THE SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD GENERAL PLAN DESIGNATION.
VENTANA'S DESIGNED FOR 2 BOTANICA .
3 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRES AND THE COMPLETE SPECIFIC LAN PROTECTS THE CITY AND THE NEIGHBORS OF ONLY A 2.3 PROJECT DENSITY INNER.
VENTANA STRATEGICALLY WILL OFFER THE HACIENDA SERIES LIMITED 23 SMALLER LOTS AND THE ESTATE SERIES LIMITED TO 80 LOTS.
OUR TEAM IS COMMITTING TO BUILDING HIGH QUALITY STATE-OF-THE-ART PRODUCT USING THE MOST CURRENTLY SUSTAINABLE BUILDING MEASURES.
THIS WILL INCREASE THE VARIETY OF HOUSING TYPES IN THIS GROWING AREA AND STILL MAINTAIN THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND PLEASE SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, I OR MY TEAM WOULD BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS THEM.
WE HOPE AND PRAY FOR YOUR APPROVAL, AND I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO REBUT AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS WE CONTINUE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. GONZALEZ.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. GONZALEZ OR HIS TEAM AT THIS TIME? ANYTHING FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? SORRY.
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
I WOULD LIKE TO PASS THIS ON TO NICOLE CHRISTI, IF I MAY.
>> MADAME CHAIR, IF I COULD BEFORE NICOLE STARTS, MAY I CORRECT SOMETHING FOR THE
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RECORD?>> SO SEPTEMBER 12 IT WAS ONLY A PROJECT CONSULTATION WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, SO IT WAS NOT A HEARING.
I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT BECAUSE HE REFERRED TO IT AS A HEARING.
IT WAS JUST A PROJECT CONSULTATION.
THOSE TYPE OF CONSULTATIONS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION DOES NOT MAKE ANY DECISION OR IMPLY ANY DECISION.
>> GOOD EVENING, MADAME CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
MY NAME IS NICOLE CRIST I'M WITH TERRA NOVA PLANNING OFFICES IN DESERT.
I'M HERE WITH MY ASSOCIATE CLARK WHO HAS ALSO WORKED ON THIS PROJECT.
WE ARE GOING TO SUPPLEMENT THE DATA PROVIDED BY STAFF BECAUSE WHEN WE RECEIVED THE STAFF REPORT ON FRIDAY, WE FOUND THAT IT WAS FAR SHORT OF WHAT WE UNDERSTOOD COMMISSIONER CEJA TO HAVE MOVED AND CORRECTED STAFF TO DO AT THE CONTINUANCE ON THE 9TH OF SEPTEMBER.
I SUBMITTED ON MONDAY A LETTER REPORT THAT I'M GOING TO SUMMARIZE NOW, GOING THROUGH ALL WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAD REQUESTED.
AS MARIO INDICATED, WE HAVE A TOTAL OF FIVE APPLICATIONS.
WE HAVE A GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT, A SPECIFIC PLAN, A TRACT MAP, AND A DESIGN REVIEW.
I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT WE HAVE A SPECIFIC PLAN THAT WILL BE ADOPTED BY ORDINANCE AND THAT BECOMES THE ZONING ORDINANCE PROPERTY.
WHEN WE CONDUCTED THE PROJECT CONSULTATION, WE GOT GOOD FEEDBACK FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN FEBRUARY.
WE ALREADY HAD A PRELIMINARY PLAN.
WE GOT GOOD FEEDBACK FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND WE PROCEEDED TO PREPARE AN APPLICATION, WHICH WAS SUBMITTED ON MAY 7TH.
THROUGH THE PROCESS IN JUNE AND JULY WE RECEIVED COMMENTS FROM ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT ON THE TENTATIVE TRACT MAP, THE HYDROLOGY STUDY, THE WATER QUALITY MANAGEMENT PLAN, AND THE TRAVEL STUDY.
WE RESPONDED TO ALL OF THOSE COMMENTS, RETURNED REVISED DOCUMENTS TO THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, AND ALL OF THOSE DOCUMENTS ARE NOW IN A CONDITION THAT THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT IS SATISFIED WITH.
IN THE FIVE MONTHS THAT WE'VE BEEN PROCESSING, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS ON THE SPECIFIC PLAN OR THE DESIGN REVIEW.
I WOULD LOVE TO SAY THAT THAT IS BECAUSE WE HAVE PREPARED THE PERFECT SPECIFIC PLAN AND PERFECT DESIGN REVIEW, BUT THAT WOULD BE A LITTLE TOO EGOCENTRIC.
AS I STATED AT THE LAST PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, THE REASON THAT WE FEEL IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION CONSIDER THE WHOLE OF THE PROJECT IN ADDITION TO THE CEQA IMPLICATIONS IS THAT THIS IS NOT A STAND-ALONE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT.
HE HAS DEVELOPED IN INDIO AND THROUGHOUT THE COACHELLA VALLEY FOR DECADES.
WE ARE BEING ASKED TO CHANGE THE GENERAL PLAN DESIGNATION TO SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD FRANKLY BECAUSE WE HAVE NO CHOICE.
THE GENERAL PLAN HAS A DESERT ESTATES NEIGHBORHOOD AT ZERO TO 1, AND THE NEXT DESIGNATION IS ZERO TO 8.
WE WOULD HAVE MUCH PREFERRED AN INTERIM DESIGNATION AS ZERO TO 3.
IN ORDER TO CURE THAT DEFICIENCY, WE PREPARED THE SPECIFIC PLAN.
AS I INDICATED, IT IS CAPPED AT 2.3 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
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IT INCLUDES OUR SITE PLAN, OUR TRACT MAP, OUR MODEL HOMES, AND AS A ORDINANCE, IT CANNOT BE AMENDED WITHOUT AN ACTION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE COUNCIL.THAT IS A LEVEL OF ASSURANCE THAT A SPECIFIC PLAN ADOPTED BY ORDINANCE HAS FOR THE CITY.
SO THIS IS OUR SPECIFIC PLAN PLANNING AREAS.
WE HAVE AS LEILA INDICATED, WE HAVE TWO PLANNING AREAS, PLANNING AREA 2A AND 2B ARE SUB AREAS.
OUR MORE INTENSE DEVELOPMENT IS ON THE SOUTH END.
THEY ARE CLOSE TO AVENUE 50, WHICH IS A BOULEVARD IN THE CITY'S MOBILITY ELEMENT AND HAS A BUILD-OUT VEHICLE, DAILY VEHICLES OF 19,600, SO IT'S A MAJOR ARTERIAL THROUGH THE CITY.
THOSE LOTS ARE INTENDED TO BE EASY TO ACCESS THE COMMERCIAL THAT IS LOCATED LESS THAN A HALF A MILE WEST OF OUR PROJECT FOR BOTH JOBS AND EMPLOYMENT.
THOSE LOTS WILL BE SURROUNDED BY OPEN SPACE AREAS, AS YOU CAN SEE WITH THE GREEN AND WILL INCLUDE A DOG PARK AT THE SOUTHERN END.
THE PLANNING AREA 2A IS OUR MODERATE ESTATE SIZE LOTS.
THEY HAVE A MINIMUM OF 11,000 SQUARE FEET, BUT THEY RANGE FROM 11,000 TO ABOUT 15,000 SQUARE FEET.
AND ALONG THE PERIMETER OF THE SITE OUR LARGER LOTS, WHICH RANGE -- HAVE A MINIMUM OF 13,500 SQUARE FEET BUT RANGE UP TO 20,600 SQUARE FEET.
THE PROJECT ALSO INCLUDES A TOTAL OF THREE PARKS, INCLUDING THE DOG PARK, AS WELL AS OPEN SPACE AREAS ALONG THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY IN ORDER TO BUFFER FROM OUR LARGE LOT NEIGHBORS TO THE SOUTHEAST.
THE OPEN SPACE AND ROADWAYS MEAN THAT AT THEIR NARROWEST, THE CLOSEST LOT ON OUR EASTERN BOUNDARY IS ABOUT 100 FEET TO 120 FEET AT ITS CLOSEST POINT AND ABOUT THE SAME ALONG OUR SOUTHERN BOUNDARY AND THOSE TWO LOTS' NORTHERN BOUNDARY.
WE HAVE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THROUGHOUT THE SPECIFIC PLAN, INCLUDING ALL OF THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS, WHICH ARE GENERALLY CONSISTENT WITH YOUR LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL LAND USE.
IT INCLUDES -- IT ALSO INCLUDES EXTENSIVE DESIGN GUIDELINES AND OPEN SPACE AREAS.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE DENSITY, BECAUSE WE CONSIDER DENSITY AT A PLANNING AREA LEVEL, WE HAVE DENSITY LISTED AT ZERO TO 6 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
IN ORDER TO INCREASE THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND EVENTUALLY THE CITY COUNCIL'S ASSURANCE REGARDING THIS PROJECT, WE WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE AMEND THAT LINE OF THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS' TABLE TO CALL FOR A DENSITY AVERAGE OF, AS WE STATED, 2.3 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE ACROSS THE PROJECT TO INCREASE THE ASSURANCE THAT WE'RE WILLING TO GIVE THE CITY REGARDING THE ULTIMATE OUTCOME OF THIS PROJECT.
THE DESIGN GUIDELINES CALL OUT THREE ARCHITECTURAL STYLES AND PROVIDE DETAILS OF POTENTIAL FINISHES AND THE MATERIALS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO BE IN THE PROJECT.
THOSE INCLUDE WOOD BEAMS, WROUGHT IRON, TROWELED STUCCO FINISHES, AND OTHER FEATURES THAT ARE TYPICAL OF THE SPANISH STYLE WHICH WILL EVOKE -- YES.
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I'M SORRY.I THOUGHT YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP.
THE PROJECT DESIGN GUIDELINES ALSO ALLOW TWO-STORY POP-UPS ONLY IN PLANNING AREA 1, AND AS YOU YOU WILL SEE IN OUR STUDENT REVIEW PACKAGE, ONLY FOR ONE OF THE TWO PLANS IN PLANNING AREA 1.
THE POP-UP IS LESS THAN 20% OF THE FLOOR AREA OF THE HOME, AND YOU WILL NOTICE THAT IT IS IN THE CENTER OF THE STRUCTURE SO THAT ITS IMPACT FROM THE STREET IS, BECAUSE OF THE SETBACKS, IS MINIMIZED.
IT IS ALSO, I WILL POINT OUT AN OPTION.
IF YOU REVIEW THE DESIGN PACKAGE THAT WAS INCLUDED WITH YOUR MATERIALS, YOU WILL HAVE NOTED THAT ALL OF THE PLANS HAVE MULTIPLE OPTIONS SO THAT A HOMEOWNER CAN MAKE MULTIPLE CHOICES ABOUT HIS HOME AND THOSE CHOICES WILL ALSO AFFECT THE LOOK OF EACH HOUSE SO THAT THERE WILL BE A GREAT DEAL OF CHARACTER CREATED BY POP-UPS ON SOME, CHANGES IN GARAGE LOCATION OR WINDOWS AND FENESTRATION WHICH ALONG WITH THE COLOR TRACES WILL CREATE AN ANIMATED STREET SCENE.
THE SPECIFIC PLAN ALSO INCLUDES A COMPREHENSIVE LANDSCAPE PACKAGE.
IT ADDRESSES ALL OF THE MASTER PLAN'S LANDSCAPING AND ADDRESSES ALL OF THE SUB AREAS, INCLUDING BOTH THE STREET SCENES AND ALL OF OUR PARK FACILITIES, AND IMPORTANTLY, THE THE BUILD-OUT OF AVENUE 50 WHICH WE WILL BE BUILDING TO ITS GENERAL PLAN BUILD-OUT CONDITION WITH TWO LANES OF TRAVEL, CURB, GUTTERS, SIDEWALK, A BIKE LANE, AND AN EXTENSIVE PARK.
THE TENTATIVE TRACT MAP IS ENTIRELY CONSISTENT WITH THE SPECIFIC PLAN, PROPOSES 103 LOTS ON 45 ACRES, INCLUDES AVENUE 50 IMPROVEMENTS, AS WELL AS OUR INTERIOR ROADWAY SYSTEM, AND PROVIDES, AFTER EXTENSIVE DISCUSSION WITH THE FIRE MARSHAL, AN EMERGENCY ACCESS AT OUR SOUTHEASTERN CORNER.
THE DESIGN REVIEW -- NEXT, PLEASE.
THE DESIGN REVIEW PROPOSES A TOTAL OF FIVE PLANS.
AS I STATED EARLIER, WE HAVE THREE ARCHITECTURAL STYLES.
THE FIRST THREE PLANS ARE FOCUSED ON TWO STYLES, AND THE THIRD STYLE IS ADDED WITH PLANS 3, 4 AND 5.
PLAN 1 AND PLAN 2 ARE PROPOSED IN PLANNING AREA 1 ONLY.
PLAN 1 IS THE ONLY PLAN THAT HAS THE POP-UP OPTION.
AND PLAN 2 IS A SINGLE STORY OPTION.
PLAN 3 PROPOSES AN ENTRY COURTYARD APPROXIMATELY 2500 TO 2600 SQUARE FEET AND A MAXIMUM HEIGHT, DEPENDING ON OPTIONS, FROM 21 TO 23 FEET IN HEIGHT.
THAT IS, WE HAVE CLEAR STORIES IN ALL OF THE THREE LARGEST PLANS, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE AS THE EXTENSION, THE HIGHEST POINT OF THE ROOF.
PLAN 4 INTRODUCES ALL THREE ARCHITECTURAL STYLES.
IT TOTALS JUST OVER 3,000 SQUARE FEET, HAS A THIRD CAR GARAGE OPTION, AND HAS A SIDE LOADED GARAGE SO THAT THERE IS AGAIN VARIETY IN THE STREETSCAPE.
AND FINALLY, PLAN 5 WHICH IS THE LARGEST PLAN, IS JUST OVER 3500 SQUARE FEET OF LIVING SPACE, ALLOWS OPTIONS THAT EXTEND TO A FIFTH BEDROOM, AND EXTENDS AT
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ELEVATIONS OF 20 TO 22 FEET IN HEIGHT DEPENDING ON THE ELEVATION SELECTED.WE ALSO HAVE MULTIPLE COLOR SCHEMES FOR EACH PLAN SO THAT AS YOU CAN SEE, BETWEEN THE COMBINATION OF AGRICULTURAL STYLES AND THE COLOR SCHEMES THAT ARE PROPOSED, THERE WILL BE A GREAT DEAL OF VARIETY WITHIN THE PROJECT.
THE LANDSCAPING PLAN IS ENTIRELY CONSISTENT WITH THE SPECIFIC PLAN.
IT INCLUDES NOT ONLY A MASTER LANDSCAPE FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT BUT ALSO INCLUDES INDIVIDUAL FOR THE MONUMENT AT THE VERY FRONT OF THE PROJECT, THE SHALE, AND THE ENTRY GATE AREA INCLUDING BOTH VEHICULAR AND PEDESTRIAN.
IT ALSO INCLUDES DESIGNS FOR EACH OF THE PARKS, AND FINALLY PROVIDES STANDARDS FOR THE INTERIOR SIGNAGE, OUR CENTRALIZED MAILBOX, AND THE PROJECT PUBLIC AREA LIGHTING.
THE PROJECT ALSO COMPLETED AN ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT UNDER THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT.
WE COMPLETED AN INITIAL STUDY WHICH WOULD LEAD TO A MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION.
IT WAS CIRCULATED FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FROM THE END OF JUNE TO THE END OF JULY THIS YEAR, CONSISTENT WITH THE GOVERNOR'S ORDER FOR THE EXTENSION OF COMMENT PERIODS DURING THE COVID CRISIS.
WE RECEIVED FOUR COMMENT LETTERS.
THOSE COMMENT LETTERS WERE ALL RESPONDED TO IN OUR RESPONSE TO COMMENTS WHICH IS PROVIDED TO YOU IN ATTACHMENT L OF THE STAFF REPORT, INCLUDING BOTH THE CITY'S RESPONSES TO THE COMMENTS AND THE ACTUAL COMMENT LETTERS.
FINALLY, WE RECEIVED A LETTER ADDRESSING THE CEQA ISSUES AFTER THE CLOSE OF BUSINESS THIS EVENING FROM MS. NAMVAR.
THERE WERE SEVERAL COMMENT LETTERS REGARDING THE PROJECT.
WE ALSO RECEIVED A LETTER FROM SBE ANDP FROM MR. BOWER, AN ATTORNEY WITH THE FIRM.
HE INCLUDES BOTH A DISCUSSION REGARDING THE GROUP THAT HE REPRESENTS OPINION REGARDING THE GENERAL PLAN.
HE ALSO INCLUDES CEQA COMMENTS RELATING TO THE INITIAL STUDY.
I VERBATIM FROM THE LETTER WRITTEN DURING THE COMMENT PERIOD BY MATT MORRIS, WHICH IS INCLUDED AS COMMENT D IN YOUR RESPONSE TO COMMENTS, AND SO THE CEQA USUALS ASSOCIATED WITH MR. BOWER'S LETTER HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED AND ARE RESPONDED TO ALREADY BY THE CITY IN ITS RESPONSE TO COMMENTS.
FINALLY, IN MY LETTER ON MONDAY I INCLUDED COMPREHENSIVE FINDINGS FOR ALL OF THE APPLICATIONS THAT OUR CLIENT HAS SUBMITTED FOR THIS PROJECT.
WE WOULD REQUEST THAT, THAT IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION BELIEVES THAT THE PROJECT SHOULD BE RECOMMENDED TO THE CITY COUNCIL, THAT IT DIRECT THE HEARING BE CONTINUED TO OCTOBER 14TH AND THAT STAFF BRING BACK RESOLUTIONS THAT RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL BASED ON THE FINDINGS PROVIDE IN MY REPORT OF SEPTEMBER 21ST AND FOR THE TENTATIVE TRACT MAP, THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL ATTACHED TO THAT REPORT AS ATTACHMENT 1 FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT, THE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT, THE SPECIFIC PLAN, THE TENTATIVE TRACT MAP, AND THE DESIGN REVIEW.
AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, MA'AM.
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I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? COMMISSIONER CEJA.
>> YEAH, I JUST HAD MAYBE TWO FOR THE APPLICANT.
FOR SECONDARY ACCESS, I'M LOOKING AT THE TRACT.
H OBTAINED? ARE YOU LOOKING AT AN EASEMENT? WHAT'S THAT BUILD-OUT CONDITION?
>> IF I MAY, COMMISSIONER CEJA.
ANYWAY, SO YOUR QUESTION WAS FOR A SECONDARY ACCESS FOR RESIDENCES IN THE COMMUNITY?
IT SHOWED ON ONE OF THE MAPS A RED LINE THAT HEADED EAST AND THEN SOUTH TO CONNECT BACK TO AVENUE 50.
IF I MAY, OFF OF 50TH AVENUE WE HAVE A DOUBLE AISLE WAY THAT WE PROVIDED WHERE IF YOU LOOK AT ONE OF YOUR SLIDES OF THE LANDSCAPE WE HAVE A 24-FOOT WIDE AISLE WAY.
WE HAVE A 16-FOOT PLANTER, AND WE HAVE ANOTHER 24-FOOT AISLEWAY.
WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH THE FIRE CAPTAIN AND DID FIRE DEPARTMENT.
YOU CAN SEE ON THE BOTTOM TOWARD 50TH WE HAVE A DOUBLE AISLE WAY AND THEY FELT THE DISTANCES, THE DOUBLE AISLEWAY, THE CIRCULATION OF THE PROJECT, THAT THAT WOULD BE ADEQUATE TO HAVE FOR EGRESS, INGRESS AND FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO HAVE PROPER ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY.
THE RED LINE, COMMISSIONER, I THINK YOU'RE SPEAKING OF IS AN EVA AND ONLY FOR AN EVA, AND THAT'S FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES, FIRE, WHATEVER.
AND IF I WOULD POINT OUT, I SPENT A LOT OF TIME OUT THERE TRYING TO SPEAK WITH THESE RESIDENTS.
I WAS ABLE TO SPEAK WITH SOME OF THEM.
AND I THINK THAT'LL SERVE BOTH THERE EVER IS AN EMERGENCY OR ACCESS THAT IS NOT ENABLED TO GO FROM 50TH BACK TO THOSE FOUR PROPERTIES TO THE EAST OR RIGHT SIDE OF THE PLAN HERE, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO COME THROUGH OUR EMERGENCY ACCESS AS WELL AND GET BACK OUT TO 50TH.
SO THE RED LINE YOU SAW WAS ONLY FOR EMERGENCY, AND THEN WE HAVE A DOUBLEAISLEWAY AS YOU ENTER INTO THE PROJECT FROM 50TH UP TO THE ESTATES JUST BELOW LOT CC.
>> THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT THEN.
LOOKING AT THE MAP A SEPARATE ISSUE.
THERE'S A GATED AND NON-GATED PORTION TO THIS COMMUNITY.
BETWEEN LOTS 20 AND 21 ON THE FRONT PART, IS THERE A PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION THAT GETS INTO THE OTHER COMMUNITY?
>> YES, THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION, COMMISSIONER CEJA.
AS I SAID, SINCE 2019 WHEN WE STARTED LOOKING AT THIS PROPERTY, WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION WITH CITY LEADERS AND WITH STAFF AND WITH THE 50TH AVENUE CONVERTING TO A VERY PEDESTRIAN TWO-LANE, THEY WANTED WALKABILITY, WAS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE SO WE LEFT LOTS NUMBER 1 THROUGH 23 OPEN, AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THERE WILL BE A GATE BETWEEN LOTS NUMBER 20 AND 21.
THERE'S A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION THAT'LL GOVERN THIS PROPERTY, AND, YES, OUR RESIDENTS WILL BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH A GATE BETWEEN 20 AND 21.
AND ALSO IF YOU WERE TO GO TO OUR LANDSCAPE PLAN, WE HAVE A VERY NICE -- A PLAN FOR A COMMUNITY SO THAT OUR FOLKS IN THE FRONT AS WELL AS THE FOLKS IN THE BACK IN OUR ESTATES CAN ENJOY THE OVERALL PROJECT.
>> IF I MAY, MADAME CHAIRPERSON, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY MR. HEINSELMAN TO ALSO DISCUSS THAT EMERGENCY ACCESS BECAUSE WE HAVE BROUGHT THAT UP TO THE APPLICANT TO SEE IF THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO PROVIDE THAT EMERGENCY EXIT OR ACCESS TO THE LOT EE TO THE EAST PROPERTY.
SO IF I MAY, I WOULD LIKE MR. HEINSELMAN TO TALK ABOUT THAT AS WELL.
OUR OFFICE WAS INFORMED THAT I BELIEVE IT'S A DIRT ROAD THERE RUNNING FROM 50 TO LOT EE, WOULD BE SERVING AS EMERGENCY ACCESS AND HAD A QUESTION AS TO WHAT THE RIGHTS ON THAT WERE.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAVE CONNECTED WITH THE FIRE MARSHAL, FIRE CAPTAIN WHO WAS DISCUSSED THE DOUBLE SECONDARY ACCESS THROUGH THE MAIN ROUTE ON AVENUE 50, BUT
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IT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THAT STAFF WASN'T AWARE, I BELIEVE, OF THE EXACT LEGAL RIGHT THAT WAS HELD FOR THE DIRT ROAD.BECAUSE THAT'S PART OF MY QUESTION THAT I'M TRYING TO GET TO.
IS THAT A PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY? IS THERE AN EASEMENT THAT NEEDS TO BE OBTAINED? IS THAT ADA ACCESS REQUIREMENT FOR THIS SUBDIVISION?
>> COMMISSIONER CEJA, IF I MAY, MADAME CHAIR THIS IS NICOLE CRIST.
A WITH US, IS ON THE ZOOM AS WELL.
THE EMERGENCY ACCESS, WE WILL PROVIDE TO OUR PROPERTY EDGE.
THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS THE RIGHT TO ACCESS AN EXISTING ROADWAY FOR PUBLIC SAFETY PURPOSES AND DOES NOT REQUIRE AN EASEMENT.
I WOULD ALSO POINT OUT THAT WITH THIS SECONDARY ACCESS, IF THERE WAS A PROBLEM ON AVENUE 50 AT THE BASE OF THAT LOT EE, IT WILL ALSO PRESERVE A SECONDARY POINT OF ACCESS FOR THE HOMES GOING THROUGH OUR PROJECT FOR THE HOMES TO THE EAST.
SO IT IS RECIPROCALLY BENEFICIARY.
>> I'M SORRY, THIS IS THE TIME SET ASIDE FOR THE APPLICANT.
>> THIS IS DR. THORNTON, THE PROPERTY OWNER OF THE DIRT ROAD.
IS THAT OKAY, ZACH, FOR HER TO SPEAK AT THIS POINT OR SHOULD WE WAIT FOR PUBLIC --
>> CHAIR, I WOULD LET THE -- COMMIT THE QUESTIONS TO THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVES, HAVE THEIR WAY OUT, AND THEN YOU CAN OPEN UP THE QUESTION PERIOD TO OTHERS, INCLUDING THE CALLER RIGHT NOW.
>> DR. THORNTON, IF YOU COULD HOLD OFF UNTIL WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT AND WE WILL HEAR FROM YOU AT THAT TIME.
COMMISSIONER CEJA, DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?
I'M JUST CURIOUS IF THAT'S SOMETHING OUR FIRE MARSHAL CAN CONFIRM THAT THEY HAVE THE ACCESS TO THAT ROAD IF NEEDED.
>> YES, AS PART OF THAT CONDITION FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT IS THAT SECONDARY ACCESS, AND WE ARE AGREEABLE TO THAT SECONDARY ACCESS AS FOR AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE ACCESS ONLY.
SO IT WILL NOT BE UTILIZED ON A PERMANENT OR EVEN TEMPORARY USE FOR THE RESIDENTS IN THIS DEVELOPMENT.
THERE WILL ONLY BE FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLE ACCESS IN THE EVENT THAT THERE IS NO ACCESS DUE TO WHATEVER INCIDENT COULD OCCUR THAT WOULD PREVENT US FROM USING THE PRIMARY ACCESS OFF OF AVENUE 50 INTO THE DEVELOPMENT.
AND I WILL SAY THAT ALSO THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT IS IN THE EVENT THAT THERE IS AB AN EVENT THAT OCCURS AT THAT ENTRY POINT ON AVENUE 50 AND WE DO NEED TO EVACUATE PEOPLE OUT OF THIS RESIDENCE, THEN THAT COULD BE AN EVACUATION ROUTE THAT COULD BE UTILIZED FOR THOSE RESIDENTS.
AS FAR AS THE DIRT ROAD ACCESS OFF OF AVENUE 50, I DON'T HAVE ANY SAY, PER SE, IN THAT OTHER THAN THAT DIRT ACCESS ROAD, MY UNDERSTANDING, AND THE ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY CAN CONFIRM THIS, THAT THAT DIRT ACCESS ROAD NEEDS TO BE IN PLACE BECAUSE YOU CANNOT LANDLOCK ANY OF THE OTHER PARCELS THAT WOULD BE EVEN NORTH OF THIS PROJECT.
I'M SATISFIED WITH WHAT I'M HEARING ON THAT, ON EVA ACCESS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME OF THE APPLICANT? NO? OKAY.
WE CAN GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE WITH THE PUBLIC COMMENT AREA.
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AND AT THIS TIME I'LL CALL UPON MRS. PHYLLIS THORNTON.
MS. THORNTON, CAN YOU HEAR US?
THE FENCING THAT YOU SEE AROUND 8886 WAS FENCING TO CONTAIN HORSES BECAUSE WE HAD HORSES AND IT IS STILL ZONED FOR HORSES.
THE AREA OUTSIDE THE FENCE IS FOR ACCESS TO BE ABLE TO GET HORSES IN AND OUT.
WE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY FROM FRED MUNOZ'S AUNTIE, AND AT THE TIME WE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, WE AGREED THAT FRED WOULD ALWAYS HAVE ACCESS ACROSS OUR PROPERTY TO GET TO HIS PROPERTY.
AND THAT'S THE REASON IT'S DIRT, BECAUSE IT'S NOT A ROAD.
IT'S JUST ASSUMED, SOMEBODY ASSUMED IT WAS A ROAD.
AND I'M VERY CONCERNED BECAUSE EVEN IF YOU PUT IN WHAT YOU CALL AN EMERGENCY EXIT, KIDS DON'T COMPLY WITH THAT.
THE BELTS DON'T COMPLY WITH IT.
WE HAVE ALREADY HAD KIDS TRYING TO BICYCLE UP AND DOWN THAT ROAD.
WE'VE HAD PEOPLE WALKING UP AND DOWN THAT ROAD BECAUSE OF THE COACHELLA VALLEY FESTIVAL.
WE'VE HAD DAMAGE DONE TO OUR PROPERTY WHERE SOMEBODY TRIED TO BREAK INTO WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN CONTAINMENT AREA.
IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE DEVELOPERS WILL PUSH FOR PEOPLE TO STAY IN THEIR PROPERTIES, TO GO TO THE FESTIVAL, AND THAT'S GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE TRYING TO COME OUT ONTO MY PROPERTY, SO I'M PUTTING UP A FENCE ON MY PROPERTY, AT MY PROPERTY LINE, WHICH IS OUTSIDE THE FENCE THAT WAS -- THAT'S THERE FOR HORSE CONTAINMENT.
FREDDIE, MR. MUNOZ, WHO IS MY NEIGHBOR, WILL HAVE KEYS TO THAT GATE AS HE HAS KEYS TO THE GATE AT HIS PROPERTY, AND HE ALSO HAS KEYS TO THE GATES OF THE HORSE CONTAINMENT ON MY PROPERTY BECAUSE HE HAD WORKED FOR MY HUSBAND.
SO I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT YOU THINK YOU CAN JUST COME ACROSS MY PROPERTY FOR EMERGENCY PURPOSES AND LEAVE MY PROPERTY OPEN TO ALL THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO LIVE IN THE DEVELOPMENT AND THEIR KIDS AND THEIR BICYCLES AND PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING FOR THE FESTIVAL TO COME ONTO MY PROPERTY.
SO I'M GOING TO ACTUALLY FENCE OFF THE REST OF MY PROPERTY.
AND, IN FACT, MY FENCING AND GATE AT THE SOUTH SIDE OF MY PROPERTY DOES NOT GO ALL THE WAY TO MY PROPERTY.
MY PROPERTY EXTENDS BEYOND THAT.
AND THAT INCLUDES WHAT YOU CALL THE DIRT ROAD, WHICH ISN'T A ROAD.
SO I'M GOING TO FENCE IT IN AND GATE IT.
CAN I ASK A QUESTION BEFORE WE CONTINUE MARSHAL FRALEY? DO WE HAVE AN EASEMENT FOR THAT EMERGENCY EXIT OR IS THERE NOT ONE? > THERE IS NO EASEMENT.
>> CHAIR, THIS IS DIRECTOR SNYDER.
CAN I MAKE A COMMENT ON THIS MATTER?
>> THE COMMISSION NOR THE CITY CAN COMPEL A OTHER PROPERTY OWNER TO AGREE TO ACCESS, SO ANY EMERGENCY VEHICLE ACCESS VIA THIS PROPERTY COULD ONLY BE BASED ON A PROOF OF AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN PROPERTY OWNERS, AND SO IT'S THE BURDEN OF PROOF IS ON THE APPLICANT TO DEMONSTRATE THAT.
WITHOUT THAT BURDEN OF PROOF, THAT EMERGENCY VEHICLE ACCESS, IN MY
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OPINION AND CERTAINLY THE ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY HINESELMAN CAN WEIGH IN ON THIS AS WELL, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE ANY CONDITION CAN BE PLACED RELATIVE TO THIS PROJECT REQUIRING THAT THAT EVA BE PLACED IN THAT LOK WITHOUT AGREEMENT FROM THE ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNER WHOSE PROPERTY WOULD BE ACCESSED FOR THAT.I JUST SAY THAT FOR THE RECORD BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT ARE THANK MS. THORNTON HERE THAT.
IF THE COMMISSION IS GOING TO SIDE TO MAKE SOME SORT OF RECOMMENDATION ON THIS, WE WILL HAVE TO CLAREFULLY LOOK AT THAT CONDITION TO SEE HOW THAT SHOULD BE APPROPRIATELY WRITTEN, IN MY OPINION.
ANY COMMENTS ON THIS, CITY ATTORNEY?
MY UNDERSTANDING IS ALSO THAT THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNER CANNOT BE COMPELLED TO HAVE AN EASEMENT HEREN==.
I WOULD QUERY TO THE APPLICANT TO PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THEY HAVE AS TO ANY SORT OF RIGHTS THEY BELIEVE THEY HAVE TO THAT ACCESS ROUTE.
I GUESS WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON AT THIS TIME TO MORE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
>> AT THIS TIME I WILL CALL UPON MR. MATT MORRIS.
MR. MORRIS, CAN YOU HEAR US? MR. MORRIS, CAN YOU HEAR US? MR. MORRIS, ARE YOU HERE WITH US? DID YOU WANT TO PROVIDE ANY COMMENTS?
>> MAYBE, EVELYN, YOU MAY WANT TO ASK HIM TO UNMUTE.
MAYBE HE FORGOT THAT HE'S MUTED.
>> I ALREADY ASKED HIM TO UNMUTE.
WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE IN THE MEANTIME, IF YOU'D LIKE.
AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK TO MR. MORRIS.
I WILL GO AHEAD AND READ INTO THE RECORD A STATEMENT BY MR. JOHN SHIMMIC WHO LIVES AT 50180 VISTA MONTAGNA IN LA QUINTA.
THIS PROJECT DOES NOT FIT THE EXISTING CONDITIONS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
MOUNTAIN VIEW IS A GATED COMMUNITY AND LA QUINTA POLO ESTATES IS A GATED COMMUNITY.
BOTH OF THESE ON THE ARE OR THE SOUTH SIDE HAVE AVENUE 50.
THE NORTH SIDE OF AVENUE 50 ARE LARGE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, 5 ACRES ONLY.
THE AVENUE 49 SIDE OF THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT ARE THE LARGE LOTS OF THE DESERT RIVER DEVELOPMENT.
THIS PROJECT WILL ONLY ATTRACT CRIME IN AN AREA THAT HAS BEEN FREE OF CRIME.
AT A MINIMUM THIS PROJECT SHOULD AB GATED COMMUNITY AND REDUCE THE 103 HOMES TO 50.
LET ME JUST CHECK IF WE HAVE SOMEONE ELSE HERE.
I GUESS I WILL MOVE ON TO A STATEMENT AND A LETTER FROM MR. KEN WELLER THAT WAS DISTRIBUTED TO THE COMMISSION, AND IT APPLIES FOR VENTANA AND THE CROSSINGS.
IT IS ALSO POSTED ON THE WEBSITE.
I'LL START MY THREE MINUTE TIMER NOW.
DEAR MSES FRANS AND COMMISSIONERS, EACH NEW DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED ON THE ENHANCEMENTS IT PROVIDE TO THE COMMUNITYAS AS WELL AS COMPLIANCE WITH THE GENERAL PLAN AND ZONING REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY OF INDIO.
HOWEVER, WHEN FOUR DIFFERENT PROJECTS ARE PROPOSEDY AT THE SAME TIME AND WITHIN A SMALL STREET SEGMENT, THE PLANNING COMMISSION SHOULD CONSIDER THE COLUMBIA CUMULATIVE EFFECT OF ALL THE PROJECTS TOGETHER AND NOT AS A SINGLE STAND ALONE DEVELOPMENT IN ANOTHER PART OF THE CITY P.
SUP IS THE CASE OF THESE THREE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENTS THAT TREND TANNA.
THESE THREE PROJECTS ALONG AVENUE 50 ARE WITHIN A SINGLE 1,650-FOOT STREET SEGMENT.
WITHIN THAT SMALL STREET SEGMENT THERE ARE THREE DIFFERENT GENERAL PLAN DESIGNATIONS: NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, SUBURBAN AND CEI R1.
AS PLANNING COMMISSIONERS YOU ARE WELL INFORMED ON THE INTENT OF GENERAL PLAN AND WHAT ITS STATED GOALS AND OBJECTIVES ARE IN THE DESERT RIVER ESTATES SOUTHERN NEIGHBORHOOD.
BECAUSE THE SPECIFIC PLAN OUR POLICY DECISIONS, SPECIFIC PLANS ARE USUALLY DEVELOPED UNTIL THE DIRECTION OF THE CITY TOWNS P COUNCIL THE INTENT OF THE SPECIFIC PLAN IS TO CREATE A MOILS TO ENSURE THAT ONLY CERTAIN SPECIFIC USES ARE ARCHITECTURAL STYLES WILL BE PERMITTED WITHIN THE BOUNDARY AREAS OF THE SPECIFIC PLAN.
EVEN THOUGH THE SPECIFIC PLAN IS DEVELOPED, IT STILL MUST MEET THE INTENT OF
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SCWHRENL PLAN DOCUMENT.USING A SPIFG PLAN FOR THREE INDIVIDUAL PARCELS FOR DEVELOPMENT WITHIN A 1,600-FOOT STREET SEGMENT IS A CONCERN OF MANY HOMEOWNERS IN THE AREA.
BY USING INDIVIDUAL SPECIFICS PLANS THAT ALLOW DEVELOPERS TO BE ABLE TO PICK AND CHOOSE USES NOT OTHERWISE PERMITTED THAT THAT ZONE IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE STATED GOALS AND OBJECTTIVITIES GENERAL PLAN AND ZONING CODE FOR THAT ZONE.
THIS APPROACH SEEMS TO BE AGAINST THE PRINCIPLES OF WHAT I SPECIFIC LAN POLICY SCHEDULE SHOULD -- PLAN POLICY SHOULD ACHIEVE.
THE QUESTION BECOMES WHY CUSS EACH NEW DEVELOPMENT NEED A SPECIFIC PLAN? I BELIEVE THE ANSWER IS THAT THE ZONING CODE HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED TO MATCH THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES OF THE 2040 GENERAL PLAN APPROVED IN SEPTEMBER 2019.
W UPDATE IN 2013, THE CITY KNEW THAT THE ZONING CODE HAD A MINISTERIAL DUTY TO ENSURE THAT BOTH DIEWNLTS CONSISTENT WITH EACH OTHER AT THE TIME OF THE ADOPTION OF THE GENERAL PLAN.
AFTER ONE YEAR ADOPTION OF THE 2040 GENERAL PLAN, THE ZONING CODE IS STILL INCONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN, THEREBY REQUIRING THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE THE POLICY DECISIONS ON INDIVIDUAL PROPOSED PROJECTS WITHOUT CENTERING THE FINDINGS THAT WOULD YF NEW PROJECTS THAT IS WITHIN THE ZONING CODE AND THE GUIDANCE PRINCIPLES OF THE GENERAL PLAN.
STAKEHOLDERS IN THE STER CONCERNED THAT BY USING DEVELOPER-DRIVEN SPECIFIC PLANS, THE APPEARANCE IS THAT THE CITY IS FAVORING DEVELOPERS OVER THE STAKEHOLDERS AND IMREAGHT AN UNFAIR PROCESS IN DETERMINING COMPLIANCE WITH THE APPROVED GENERAL PLAN.
STAKEHOLDERS ARE VOCALLY UPSET AT THE NONCOMPLIANCE OF THE ADOPTED GENERAL PLAN AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
IN THE CASE OF THE CROSSINGS -- I'M SORRY.
WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO CONTINUE? MADAME CHAIR, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO CONTINUE READING THE LETTER? N== SHALL I CONTINUE?
>> I THINK, MADAME CHAIR MIGHT HAVE DROPPED OFF ON THE CALL.
>> VICE CHAIR, CAN I GO AHEAD AND SAY PROCEED?
STAKEHOLDER ARE VOCALLY UPSET WITH THE NONCOMPLIANCE OF THE ADOPTED GENERAL PLAN AND THE OVERWHELM -- I'M SORRY.
I'M STILL CHECKING IF SHE'S TRYING TO JUMP BACK IN.
WITH THE NONCOMPLIANCE OF THE ADOPTED GENERAL PLAN AND THE OVERDEVELOPMENT NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE CASE OF THE CROSSINGS.
IN THE 202004 ENTITLEMENTS ALLOWED 25S UNITS.
TODAY THERE ARE 103 UNITS PROPOSED FOR THAT SAME PROPERTY.
VENTANA IS IN THE CIR 1 ZONE WITH ONE TWELG BETWEEN DWEJ UNIT PER AREA,.
THAT WOULD CAN APPROXIMATELYICS 64.
THIS HAD THERE ARE 104 DWELLINGS PROPPED FOR THAT CITRUS PLAZA TWO.
A 90 UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX WAS PROPOSED.
THAT TOTALS 296 UNITS IN A 1,650-FOOT STREET SEGMENT WHERE ONLY 71 UNITS WERE CONTEMPLATED IN THE GENERAL PLAN IN 2004 WHEN THESE HOMEOWNERS PURCHASED THEIR HOMES IN INDIO REERCHES COUNTRY ESTATES AREA.
FOLLOWING PRODUCT INSTRUCTIONS COMBINED ILLUSTRATES THE OVERREACH OF THE PROPOSEDKE IN THE SOUTHERN NEIGHBORHOOD AREA.
CITRUS PLAZA II 90 APARTMENTS, TWO DRIVE-THROUGH RESTAURANTS AND A GASOLINE SERVICE STATION.
THE CROSSINGS 103 SINGLE FAMILY HEEMS CONSISTING OF 15, TWO-STORY AND 24 TWO-STORY COMPLEX COMPLEXES AND 44 IS TOTORY.
THE PROPERTY DOES NOT MEET THE MINIMUM SIZE FOR GENERAL PLAN FOR THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
VENTANA, 103 WITH 7,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS AND 11,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS.
THIS PROJECT DOES NOT MEET THE CEIR 1 REQUIREMENT OF ONE HOUSING UNITS PER ACRE.
T MULTI-USE A DMINISTRATORS, AMPHITHEATER AND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
26,000 SQUARE FOOT SANCTUARY FOR A 1,000 PLUS PEOPLE AND 414 PARKING STALLS.
THERE ARE NOW 296 UNITS PROPOSED IN THE CITRUS PLAZA VENTANA AND THE CROSSINGS PROJECT AND WITHIN THAT STREET SEGMENT THERE ARE CURRENTLY THREE SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS ON ONE VACANT LOT.
COMBINED THESE PRODUCTS ARE TWOO HIGH OF AN INTENSE USE FOR TER SOUTHERN NEIGHBORHOOD AREA.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL TAKE THE FIRST STEP IN RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OR DPOARNL A POLICY DECISION BASED ON A SPECIFIC PLAN PROPOSAL ONLY AND NOT IN THE CONFORMANCE OF THE GENERAL PLAN FOR THE ZONING CODE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES FOR THE DISEART ESTATE SOUTHERN NEIGHBORHOOD.
THERE ARE THREE DOCUMENTS THE CITY USES TO DETERMINE IN F.
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A PROJECT IS SUITED FORT PROPOSED AREAS.THE GENERAL PLAN, ZONING CODE CAN AND THE HOUSING ELEMENT.
CURRENTLY THE SCOANG CODE AND THE HOUSING ELEMENT DOCUMENTS COULD NOT MATCH THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES OF THE APPROVED GENERAL PLAN.
FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO MAKING AN INFORMED DECISION AND GATHER ALL OF THE FACTS AND TO ASSIST EACH COMMISSIONER WITH THEIR DLIB RAIGHTSZ, THE CITY SHOULD HAVE INCLUDED FINDINGS TO THE SPECIFIC PLAN MEETS THE INTENT OF THE GENERAL PLAN.
THE THIS LEAVES THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS IN A DIFFICULT POSITION TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL THE APPROVAL OR DEFINITELY CONVENIENT THAN A AND CROSSINGS PRODUCTS WITHOUT HAVING ZONING CODE.
HOUSING ARE -- TO BASE THEIR DECISION ON.
THIS IMPORTANT DECISION IS SIGNIFICANT IN KEEPING THE CHARACTER AND FEEL OF THE SOUTHERN NEIGHBORHOOD OR CHANGING THE FACE OF THE COMMUNITY FOREVER.
HOMEOWNERS ARE ALSO CONCERNED WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF HAVING A PROJECT OF DPLEKDZ DUPLEXES AND FOURPLEXES IN THIS AREA.
THERE ARE FOUR CROSSINGS IN 2 ACRES TO 2.4 ACRES RANGING FROM $1 MILLION TO $7.5 MILLION.
THESE PROPERTIES CURRENTLY HAVE ONE OR MORE HORSES ON THEIR PROPERTY.
THEY USE AVENUE 50 TO EXERCISE AND RIDE THEIR HORSES FOR THEIR ENJOYMENT OF THE COUNTRY ATMOSPHERE.
THE SAFETY OF THEMSELVES AND THEIR HORSES ARE CONCERNS WITH TRIPLING THE DENSITY OF UNITS IN THE AREA FROM 2004 GENERAL PLAN.
>> I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU.
I JUST GOT A MESSAGE FROM OUR CHAIR.
SHE'S HAVING SOME ISSUES WITH HER WI-FI.
>> I THINK WE'RE GOOD, TOO, EVELYN WITH OUR TIME ON THOSE COMMENTS.
>> AND IF I CAN JUMP IN FOR A SECOND AND CLARIFY FOR THE RECORD, IT IS LOOKS LIKE CHAIR FRANZ WAS DISCONNECTED TEMPORARILY BY MY ACCOUNT FROM 7:11 TO 7:15 AND HAS BEEN ABLE TO REJOIN THE MEETING, AND DURING THAT TIME SECRETARY BELTRAN READ INTO THE RECORD A LETTER THAT WAS RECEIVED, AN IS IN THE FILE, AND CHAIR FRANZ IS NOW BACK.
>> I WAS GETTING A LITTLE NERVOUS.
DO WE HAVE ANY MORE COMMENTS? PUBLIC COMMENTS? PLEASE CONTINUE, EVELYN.
MR. MORRIS, DID YOU WANT TO PROVIDE COMMENT TONIGHT?
>> YES, I WOULD CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW IN.
AND YOUR THREE MINUTES START NOW.
GOOD EVENING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
I WANT TO THANK YOU AND THE STAFF FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COUPLE OF OBSERVATIONS.
FIRST IS THAT THE GENERAL PLAN THAT IS BEING PROPOSED TO BE CHANGED HERE, NOT THE ENTIRE GENERAL PLAN BUT JUST FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT, IS ONLY 45 ACRES OUT OF IT, THAT TOOK FIVE YEARS TO CONSTRUCT WITH INPUT FROM THE CITY FROM CONSULTANTS, FROM ALL THE NEIGHBORS IN THE AREA, AND WITH RESPECT TO OVERALL VIEW OF THE CITY.
FIVE YEARS TO DO, AND CONSULTANT AND EXPENSE.
AND IN THE STAFF COMMENTS TO THIS PROJECT, THE STAFF REPORTS THAT THERE HAS TO BE A COMPELLING REASON TO CHANGE THAT GENERAL PLAN.
THINK ABOUT THAT WORD "COMPELLING." THAT MEANS IMPORTANT, CRITICAL, NECESSARY.
T WHAT SHOULD BE A PLAN THAT SETS OUT THE CITY'S COURSE FOR 20 YEARS, AND IT TOOK FIVE YEARS TO DEVELOP.
I'VE LOOKED THROUGH A LOT OF THE STAFF.
I CANNOT FIND A COMPELLING== REASON IN ANYTHING PROVIDED BY THE DEVELOPER OR BY THE STAFF THAT WOULD SAY WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE GENERAL PLAN.
I HAVEN'T HEARD A COMPELLING REASON TONIGHT.
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THAT COMPELLING REASON IS OTHER THAN THE DEVELOPER WANTS TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN THE CITY PLANNED IN THE GENERAL PLAN.
IN THE DESERT ESTATES NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, THIS IS -- ACCORDING TO THE COMMENTS BY THE STAFF, THIS IS CONSIDERED NATIVE FEATURES WHILE PROVIDING THE LOWEST DENSITY AND INTENSITY USE FOR THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS IN THE AREA.
THIS PROPOSED PROJECT IS FLATLY CONTRARY TO THAT, AND I COMMEND THE PLANNING STAFF OR THE CITY STAFF FOR POINTING OUT THE PROPOSED DENIES DID I IS NOT -- THIS IS A QUOTE FROM THE STAFF -- THE PROPOSED DENSITY IS NOT IN LINE WITH THE VISION FOR THE DESERT ESTATES NEIGHBORHOOD==.
RIGHTS? SO THIS REQUIRES A RADICAL CHANGE IN THE POLICY AND SUBSTITUTING BASICALLY THE DEVELOPER'S POLICY FOR THE CITY'S POLICY.
MOREOVER, THE STAFF REPORTED THAT THE SUBURBAN DENSITY MAY NOT FIT WITH EXISTING HOMES' DENSITY.
ALL THE TALK ABOUT DESIGN AND SITE-SPECIFIC PLANS AND WATER AND EASEMENTS DOESN'T
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MATTER IF THE CITY IS WILLING TO STICK TO ITS GENERAL PLAN.IF IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE GENERAL PLAN, NONE OF THIS OTHER INFORMATION THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS HEARD TONIGHT MAKES ANY DIFFERENCE.
THE STAFF ALSO SAID IN THEIR POINTS IN RESPONSE TO THE DEVELOPER THAT THERE IS NO CORRELATION BETWEEN MORE HOUSING AND THE FESTIVAL DISTRICT.
THEY ALSO SAID THE PROPOSED DENSITY IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA, AND SPECIFICALLY SAID THE PROPOSED DENSITY IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN.
THE CHANGE TO THE SUBURBAN IS -- THIS IS A QUOTE ON PAGE 20 BY THE STAFF -- THE CHANGE TO SUBURBAN IS IN CONFLICT WITH GOALS AND POLICIES OF THE GENERAL PLAN.
THE APPROVED AMENDMENT CANNOT -- IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH EXISTING LAND USES IN THIS AREA.
SO I THINK IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION REQUESTS SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IS IN THE CURRENT GENERAL PLAN, MY SENSE IS THAT THEY'RE ASKING SOMETHING THAT'S AGAINST THE RECOMMENDATION BY THE CITY STAFF.
AND SO I CAN SEE WHY THE STAFF WOULD NOT WANT TO MAKE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
I REQUEST THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION NOT CHANGE WHAT HAS BEEN A WELL THOUGHT OUT, PUT IN PLACE GENERAL PLAN THAT'S SUPPOSED TO GUIDE THE CITY INTO THE FUTURE AND MAKE THAT THERE IS NO COMPELLING REASON TO CHANGE IT.
ALSO, I WANT TO COMMENT ON WHAT MS. THORNTON WAS SAYING ABOUT THAT EASEMENT.
THAT DIRD DIRT ROAD, WERE ALL AT ONE TIME OWNED BY FRED MUNOZ.
FRED USED THE EDGE OF THOSE PROPERTIES TO DRIVE -- IT WAS ALL DIVIDED INTO 5-ACRE PARCELS.
HE USED THAT ROAD TO DRIVE TO THE BACK OF HIS PROPERTY, SO IT'S NOT JUST MS. THORNTON THAT OWNS THAT ROAD, WHICH BY THE WAY NOT A PUB ROAD.
IT'S A PRIVATE EASEMENTS FOR ALL OF THE PROPERTIES COMMENCING WITH THE PROPERTY THAT STARTS AND FACES UP ON AVENUE 50.
SO BY RIGHTS THOSE NEIGHBORS COULD ALL GET TOGETHER AND BUILD A FENCE ACROSS THAT DIRT ROAD AT AVENUE 50 AND LOCK IT OFF AND KEEP IT FOR THEIR OWN PRIVATE USE.
TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THERE'S NO OTHER ENTITLEMENT FOR IT TO BE USED==.
AGAIN, I WANT TO COMMEND STAFF FOR THEIR WORK ON THIS.
I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANYWAY THAT THIS PROPOSED DENSITY IS IN LINE WITH THE VISION FOR THIS AREA.
IT'S FLATLY CONTRARY TO THE GENERAL PLAN.
THERE'S NO CORRELATION BETWEEN WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED AND ANYTHING ELSE IN THE AREA.
AND FINALLY, THERE IS NO COMPELLING REASON TO MAKE THIS CHANGE.
THE ONLY REASON THIS CHANGE IS BEING REQUESTED IS SO THE DEVELOPER CAN MAKE MORE MONEY BUILDING MORE HOUSES ON AN AREA WHERE ONLY 45 OR 46 HOUSES IS CURRENTLY ALLOWED, AND I'LL END COMMENTS AT THAT.
EVELYN, DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE?
AND HE IS JOINING NOW SO IF YOU WILL JUST BEAR WITH ME FOR A SECOND.
>> IS THIS THE NUMBER I WAS MEANT TO CALL?
CAN YOU ALL HEAR MR. STUART MARLBORO JUST FINE? YOU MAY START.
YOU CAN PROVIDE YOUR COMMENTS.
I APPRECIATE THE WORK GOING INTO THIS BY THE STAFF.
I'D LIKE TO JUST REITERATE THE COMMENTS THAT WERE JUST MADE.
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND THOUSANDS OF HOURS WERE SPENT ON PUTTING A GENERAL PLAN IN PLACE, AND FOR NO COMPELLING REASON OTHER THAN A DEVELOPER MADE A BET ON A PROPERTY WE WANT TO CHANGE THAT JUST ON A WHIM.
WHILE THE FOCUS TODAY, AND WE HEARD IT CONTINUALLY FROM THE DEVELOPER'S TEAM, WAS HEY, THERE'S AN 8 UNITS PER ACRE.
IF IT'S 2.3 IT'S DOUBLE WHAT IS MEANT TO BE FOR AN A 1 ACRES AREA.
IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE 2 ACRES PER DWELLING AREA.
SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY AS A CITY WE WOULD SPEND TAXPAYER DOLLARS AND ALL THAT EFFORT FROM ALL THESE EXPERTS JUST BECAUSE ONE PERSON MAKES A BET WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE IT AND THROW THAT OUT.
IT SEEMS ARBITRATOR, IT SEEMS CAPRICIOUS AND IT SEEMS NOT IN THE INTERESTS OF THE COMMUNITY, THE NEIGHBORS OR OUR CITY IN GENERAL.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HEARING ME.
AND -- >> EVELYN, YOU'RE ON MUTE.
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>> I BELIEVE THAT IS IT FOR VENTANA.
I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY ADDITIONAL REQUESTS TO SPEAK FOR THE PROJECT.
SO I THINK WE SHOULD -- SO, ZACH, AT THIS POINT WE WANT TO LEAVE THIS OPEN IN CASE
I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT REQUESTED THE OPPORTUNITY TO REBUT.
THIS COULD BE AN APPROPRIATE TIME FOR THAT.
SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND INVITE THE APPLICANT BACK TO ANSWER ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR CONCERNS THAT WERE JUST GIVEN.
THIS IS MARIO GONZALEZ SPEAKING.
FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS THAT WERE POSED HERE.
FIRST WITH DR. THORNTON, THAT WAS OUR CLEAR UNDERSTANDING, THAT THERE ARE FOUR PROPERTIES THAT ARE TO THE EAST OF US.
THERE IS EXISTING ROAD THAT SEEMS TO BE USED BY MANY PEOPLE, AND IF YOU DO BLOCK THAT ROAD OFF, FREDDIE MUNOZ WHO IS THE FURTHEST PROPERTY TO THE NORTH WOULD HAVE NO ACCESS.
DAVID I THINK HIS NAME IS SATIHA, WE WILL HAVE NO ACCESS AND TONY IS TO THE FRONT THERE ON 50TH.
S COMMENTS ABOUT KIDS BEING ABLE TO PLAY AND GET OUT OF THAT EVA ACCESS.
THAT EVA ACCESS IS ONLY, ONLY FOR EMERGENCY SITUATIONS.
THE WALL, IT WILL BE WALLED OFF.
AND ONLY, ONLY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WILL HAVE A LOCK BOX TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THAT AREA.
SO THERE WOULD BE NO ACCESS FROM THAT POINT UNLESS IT WAS OPENED BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
AND I KNOW WE GOT SOME COMMENTS CHALLENGING THE VALIDITY OF THE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT.
AND THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON THAT, CHALLENGING OUR CEQA AND SO FORTH.
WE'RE NOT HUNGRY DEVELOPERS COMING IN HERE TO TRY TO MAKE A QUICK BUCK.
WE'VE BEEN IN THE VALLEY FOR ABOUT 35 YEARS OR PLUS, AND WE WILL ONLY BUILD QUALITY, AND WE ONLY TRY TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT.
WHAT'S REAL INTERESTING TO ME IS THAT ON THE 50TH CORRIDOR YOU PROBABLY HAVE ABOUT NINE PROPERTIES THAT ARE LARGE LOT PROPERTIES, AND DR. THORNTON HAS HER PROPERTY FOR SALE RIGHT NOW, SO I'M SURE IF SOMEONE CAME ALONG, THIS WOULD ALL GO AWAY.
BUT THERE'S ABOUT -- THEY'RE EVER THERE'S PROBABLY ABOUT NINE PROPERTIES THAT ARE LARGE LOT PROPERTIES, AND THERE'S PROBABLY ONLY ABOUT THREE PEOPLE THAT HAVE REALLY UTILIZED THE LAND THAT REALLY HAVE DONE A NICE JOB OF BUILDING AND BUILDING OUT THAT -- -- PROPERTY AND TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THAT LOT OUT OF ALL THOSE== PROPERTIES THE BALANCE OF THE PROPERTIES ARE SITTING WITH A STORAGE SHED, BROKEN DOWN HOUSE, A LOT OF WEEDS, A LOT OF DEAD PLANTS, A COUPLE OF HORSES ROAMING AROUND, AND, YOU KNOW, I WOULD UNDERSTAND THERE'S TRASH CANS ON 50TH RIGHT NOW, AND WE'VE REACHED OUT TO ALL THOSE FOLKS, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO HELP THEM, ESPECIALLY THE PROPERTY TO OUR EAST, MR. MORRIS' PROPERTY, AND CLEAN THE PLACE UP A LITTLE BIT, RESPECTFULLY, PUT A WALL AROUND IT.
WOULDN'T HAVE TO PUT TRASH CANS OUT IN FRONT.
AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT THINGS CHANGE, AND CHANGE COMES IN TIME, AND WE ALL LIVE IN CERTAIN AREAS WHERE WE THOUGHT IT WOULD STAY FOREVER, BUT THAT'S NOT REALITY.
SO I CAN'T ANSWER THE TECHNICAL QUESTIONS OF OUR CEQA.
I HAVE PROFESSIONALS THAT ARE ON THE LINE WITH US.
I THINK WE HAVE OUR CEQA EXPERT THAT MAY WANT TO ADD SOME COMMENTS, BUT I JUST WANTED TO RESPOND TO A COUPLE OF THOSE, AND I APPRECIATE YOU ALLOWING ME TO DO THAT.
>> NICOLE, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE OF OUR PROFESSIONALS THAT MAY WANT TO ADDRESS THIS?
I BELIEVE THAT THE CEQA COMMENTS, THE FEW S.E.E.K.
WAUGH COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED IN BOTH THE INITIAL STUDY IS THE THE RESPONSE TO== COMMENTS.
THERE HAVE BEEN NO WAYS THAT WOULD CHANGE THE FINDINGS OF THE INITIAL STUDY OR MODIFY THE CEQA DETERMINATION.
I WOULD ALSO, AS IT RELATES TO THE EMERGENCY ACCESS, I WOULD ASSURE THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT WE WILL WORK WITH CITY STAFF TO DEMONSTRATE HOW THIS ACCESS WOULD BE POSSIBLE AND POINT OF ACCESS TO THE CITY'S SATISFACTION.
THAT WOULD BE ALL I WOULD WANT TO ADD.
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>> ANYTHING ELSE, MR. GONZALEZ, AT THIS TIME?
>> MADAME CHAIR, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
ALL I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT WE WILL BRING SOME HIGH QUALITY HOUSING, NEW HOUSING STOCK IN HERE THAT IS GREATLY NEEDED IN THE CITY.
WE HAVE DEVELOPED SOME REALLY GOOD PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE TOWN.
WE WANT TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE PRICE POINTS THAT'LL BE VERY COMPATIBLE WITH THE OTHER SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, AND WE'RE HERE FOR THE LONG HAUL.
OUR PARTNERS AND I HAVE OVER 100 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE.
AND WE HAVE THE TIME TO SEE THIS PROJECT THROUGH FRUITION.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME TO REBUT? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS FOR STAFF OR THE DEVELOPER AT THIS TIME?
>> PERHAPS A QUESTION FOR CITY STAFF.
GIVEN THE COMMENTS MADE BY THE APPLICANT'S CONSULTANT, WHAT ARE WE CONSIDERING TONIGHT?
SO BASICALLY YOU ARE CONSIDERING ALL OF FIVE ENTITLEMENTS, HOWEVER, AS YOU SEE IN THIS SLIDE, THE FIRST ONE IS TH PLAN.
SO THE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT IS PROPOSING TO GO FROM 1 TO 8 AND, OF COURSE, THE SPECIFIC PLAN, THE APPLICANT IS GOING TO SET THE ZONING FOR 2.3 UNITS PER ACRE.
WE WANT THE COMMISSION TO KNOW THIS -- WHEN WE SET THE GENERAL PLAN AT 8, WE CAN ALSO PROVIDE THE OPPORTUNITY TO THE DEVELOPER, THE CURRENT DEVELOPER OR ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT TO RAISE THE DENSITY FROM 2.3 TO 8, AND IT WILL BE REALLY HARD TO NOT ALLOW THAT BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE A GENERAL PLAN THAT IT HAS 8 UNIT DENSITY.
SO WE WANT THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO BASICALLY BE AWARE OF THAT AND ALSO BE AWARE OF THIS TACK THAT THE GENERAL PLAN WAS APPROVED RECENTLY WITH THE STALK HOLDERS AND COMMUNITY INPUT -- STAKEHOLDERS AND COMMUNITY INPUT FOR ALMOST FIVE YEARS.
SO THIS IS A POLICY DIRECTION== CHANGE.
BUT AGAIN, IT IS -- AFTER THE UP TO THE COMMISSION AND UP TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE THAT CHOICE WITH THE COMMUNITY INPUT.
SO STAFF PROFESSIONALLY DON'T THINK THIS IS A STAFF -- IT IS THE STAFF'S POSITION TO INFLUENCE THAT POLICY DECISION.
AND THAT ALSO, STAFF IS NOT SAYING MR. GONZALEZ IS NOT A GOOD DEVELOPER OR IS NOT A QUALITY DEVELOPER.
HOWEVER, BASICALLY THE MAJOR LIFT IN FRONT OF YOU AND THE COUNCIL IS THIS POLICY DIRECTION AND THIS SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE FROM LAST YEAR FOR THIS AREA, WHICH IT IS DESERT NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE PRESERVED WITH VERY MINIMAL CHANGES TO THE COMMISSION TO DIRECT STAFF TO COME BACK WITH WHETHER IT'S WHATEVER RESOLUTION OR WHATEVER DIRECTION THE COMMISSION GIVES THE STAFF.
>> I WAS GOING TO MENTION SO WE ARE LOUNGE AT THE TOTALITY OF THE PROJECT.
THE FOUR OR FIVE VARIOUS APPLICATIONS.
BUT FOR TONIGHT'S ACTION IT'S JUST TO DIRECT STAFF.
I THINK THE APPLICANT IS CORRECT.
WE TECHNICALLY NEED TO CONTINUE THIS TO ANOTHER MEETING TO GET EITHER AN APPROVAL OR DENIAL ON THIS.
>> IF I COULD JUMP IN, IF I COULD.
YOU AS A COMMISSION, YOU HAVE THE DISCRETION TO THIS EVENING TO MAKE A PRELIMINARY DECISION, WHETHER IT'S A DECISION IN SUPPORT OR AGAINST, AND THEN DIRECT STAFF TO COME BACK, TO CONTINUE AS NOTED EARLIER, COME BACK ON OCTOBER 14TH WITH THE APPROPRIATE LEVEL FINDINGS, WHETHER IT'S FINDINGS RECOMMENDING FOR THE JENN PLANL ATD, SPECIFIC PLAN AMENDMENT AND TENTATIVE TRACT MAP, ALL OF OF WHICH NEED TO TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL, WHETHER YOU RECOMMEND APPROVAL OR DENIAL FOR THE DESIGN REVIEW.
OBVIOUSLY THAT IS NOT SOMETHING YOU NECESSARILY FORWARD ON.
SO IT'S YOUR DISCRETION AS A BODY TONIGHT TO== TAKE NO ACTION, TO TAKE ACTION FOR OR AGAINST, AND THEN TO DIRECT STAFF.
SO THERE IS -- IT'S ULTIMATELY THE COMMISSION'S DISCRETION THIS EVENING.
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BUT ALL ITEMS -- I JUST WANT TO REEMPHASIZE ALL ITEMS HAVE BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU, BUT STAFF DID NOT PROVIDE THE RESOLUTIONS AS WE TYPICALLY DO BECAUSE -- AND I WILL SAY THIS VERY CLEARLY -- THE LEADING QUESTION FROM WHICH ALL OTHER DECISIONS FLOW IS THE GENERAL PLAN PAMENTD STAFF NILT PROFESSIONALLY INAPPROPRIATE TO PRESPHOAS EXPOSE THE COMMISSION'S, AND AFTER CONSULTING WITH CITY LEGAL COUNSEL WE FEEL CFERLT IN PROCESS WE HAVE WERE ON THE TO YOU THIS EVENING BECAUSE IT'S LEGALLY APPROPRIATE AND PROFESSIONALLY APPROPRIATE TO ET LETZ YOU MAKE THE FINDINGS ARE ON LET YOU MAKE THE DECISION AND DIRECT TO US PREPARE THE FINDINGS REFLECTING THAT DECISION==.>> COMMISSIONER CEJA, ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
>> I THINK I UNDERSTAND STAFF'S POSITION.
THERE IS NO STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON WHAT WE'RE SEEING TONIGHT.
REVIEWING THE APPLICATIONS, REVIEWING THE SPECIFIC PLAN, THE MAP, THE DESIGN OF THE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT, SCUMENTING WITH UTILITIES, SCB CONSULTING WITH UTILITIES, INTERNAL STAFF, NO RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF TONIGHT.
CHAIR,== IS THE PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED, OPEN OR ARE WE ON COMMISSION DELIBERATION?
>> CITY ATTORNEY, WE WERE GOING TO LEAVE IT OPEN OR DEPENDING ON WHETHER WE WERE GOING TO HAVE IT COME BACK, CORRECT?
>> SO RIGHT NOW THE HEARING IS STILL OPEN TO THE EXTENT THAT THE COMMISSION FEELS THAT EVIDENCE GATHERING -- THE HEARING NEEDS TO BE OPEN, THAT CAN BE CONTINUED
TO ANOTHER MEETING, IF THAT'S -- >> BUT IF WE'RE READY TO DELIBERATE, WE NEED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC.
>> IF YOU'RE READY TO DELIBERATE, YOU CAN CLOSE THE HEARING.
I WOULD NOTE THAT ANOTHER HEARING ON THIS ITEM, UNLESS THE HEARING IS REOPENED AND THEN THERE'S A CONTINUATION, THAT SUCH HEARING WOULD NEED TO BE RENOTICED.
>> BUT WE CAN REOPEN IT BEFORE WE CLOSE TODAY IF WE CHOSE TO DO THAT.
>> I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVES ARE REQUESTING THE COMMISSION TO SPEAK BEFORE THAT ACTION.
>> MADAME CHAIR, PROCEDURALLY, IN ORDER TO BRING THIS ITEM BACK WITHOUT RENOTICING, AND WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH THREE OF THESE ALREADY, THE COMMISSION NEEDS TO LEAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND CONTINUE TO A DATE CERTAIN.
>> WE WOULD APPRECIATE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THE COMMISSION WISHES TO RECOMMEND -- ASSUMING THAT THE COMMISSION WISHES TO MAKE A DECISION THIS EVENING, WHETHER IT WUSHES TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OR DENIAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL, WE WOULD APPRECIATE A CONTINUANCE TO A DATE CERTAIN.
I WOULD ALSO POINT OUT THAT IN THIS CASE, BECAUSE THE DESIGN REVIEW CANNOT -- WELL, LET ME BE MORE SPECIFIC.
BECAUSE THE SPECIFIC PLAN REVIEW, AND CEQA ACTION ALL MUST GO TO THE COUNCIL BECAUSE THEY ARE SUB SEVRENIENT TO THE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT, AND THAT ACTION, THE COUNCIL NEEDS TO TAKE THAT ACTION TECHNICALLY FIRST BEFORE IT CONSIDERS THE SPECIFIC PLAN TENTATIVE TRACT MAP AND DESIGN REVIEW.
AND WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU== CONSIDER ALL OF THE ITEMS. THANK YOU.
SO, ZACH, JUST TO CONFIRM, WE CAN CLOSE TO IT DELIBERATE AND THEN WE CAN REOPEN IT BEFORE WE END THIS MEETING IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO A DATE CERTAIN, CORRECT?
SO I HAVE ONE QUESTION OF STAFF AT THIS POINT, PROBABLY FOR EITHER KEVIN OR LEILA.
SO WE KEEP GOING BACK AND FORTH ON THE 0 TO EIGHT UNITS ON THE SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOODS VERSUS THE 1 UNIT PER ACRE TO THE DEN.
SO -- AND THEN WE KEEP HEARING THAT THE SPECIFIC PLAN WOULD THEN LIMIT TO IT MAKE SURE THAT THERES NOT 8 UNITS, THERE IS ONLY 2.3 UNITS ON THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT.
SO MAYBE ZACH NEEDS TO ANSWER THIS.
SO IS THE SPECIFIC PLAN BINDING TO THE PROPERTY IF IT WERE SOLD AND ANOTHER
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DEVELOPER WERE TO PICK IT UP OR SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN? CAN THAT BE DONESOME.>> I'LL TAKE THE LEAD IN ANSWERING THAT AND LEILA AND ZACH CAN WEIGH IN AND DIRECTOR SNYDER.
A THE CITY COUNCIL IF IT IS ADOPTED.
SO IT IS BINDING ON THE PROPERTY AS A ZONING DESIGNATION IS BINDING ON A PROPERTY.
HOWEVER, SPECIFIC PLANS LIKE ZONING DESIGNATIONS CAN BE CHANGED BY FUTURE ORDINANCE ACTION.
AND SO, YES, THE SPECIFIC PLAN IF ULTIMATELY RECOMMENDED BY YOU FOR APPROVAL OR DENY, ULTIMATELY APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL, IT IS BINDING ON THE PROPERTY AS A FORM OF ZONING.
IT REGULATES PLANNED LAND USES.
IT HAS DESIGN STANDARDS AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
BUT IT CAN BE MODIFIED BY FUTURE COUNCIL ACTION, SO IT IS NOT INHERENTLY PERMANENT AS NO ZONING IS BECAUSE LEGISLATIVELY ZONING, IE, SPECIFIC PLANS, CAN BE CHANGED THROUGH FUTURE ORDINANCE ACTION.
>> SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE AND ASK FOR A CHANGE, AND THEY IT WOULD HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL.
THE ISSUE THAT STAFF WANTED TO POINT OUT, AND I GUESS I'LL REEMPHASIZE IT HAD -- LEILA POINT IT OUT EARLIER -- IS IF ULTIMATELY THE GENERAL PLAN DESIGNATION FOR THIS PROD CHANGES TO SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT HAITIAN MAXIMUM DIFFERENCE 8 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE PER THE ADOPTED GENERAL PLAN.
IF A SPECIFIC PLAN IS APPROVED AND IN THIS INSTANCE THERE'S STATING THAT IT WILL BE 2.3 DWELLING UNITS AS THE AVERAGE DENSITY, IF THE CURRENT DEVELOPER OR A -- IF THE PROPERTY WAS EVER SOLD TO ANOTHER DEVELOPER AND THEY CAME DENSITY, ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO FACE IS THAT THE MAIN CRITERIA FOR A SPECIFIC PLANS THAT THEY BE FOUND CONSISTENT WITH GENERAL PLANS.
AND SO THE QUESTION THAT WOULD BE IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION AND COUNCIL WOULD ULTIMATELY BE IS ANY AMOUNT OF TO THE SPECIFIC PLAN THAT SOUGHT TO INCREASE DENSITY WOULD BE TO A DENSITY THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED BY THE OPERATING GENERAL PLAN.
THAT'S THE POINT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO MAKE.
SO THAT'S WHY WE KEEP PUTTING THE POLICY QUESTION IN FRONT OF YOU BECAUSE WE THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT POLICY QUESTION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME OR SHOULD WE CLOSE AND BEGIN DELIBERATION? ANY COMMENTS FROM MY PLANNING COMMISSIONERS? NO?
>> MAYOR, CAN I INTERRUPT ONE MORE TIME? I THINK FIRE MARSHAL FRALEY WANTED TO MAKE ONE ADDITIONAL COMMENT ON THE EMERGENCY VEHICLE ACCESS IF THAT'S POSSIBLE BEFORE YOU CLOSE.
I CAN'T SEE EVERYBODY WITH THE WAY THIS IS LAID OUT.
>> YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO HAVE IT ON, OFFICIALLY ON THE RECORD RELATED TO EMERGENCY ACCESS.
IF ACCESS OFF OF AVENUE 50 FOR THE SECONDARY EMERGENCY ACCESS, IF THAT IS NOT -- IF SOMETHING IS NOT ABLE TO BE WORKED OUT BETWEEN THE DEVELOPER AND THOSE HOMEOWNERS OR THOSE LANDOWNERS OVER THERE, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO RECONSIDER OUR PROPOSAL FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT AS WE WOULD HAVE NO EMERGENCY VEHICLE ACCESS.
>> SO FIRE MARSHAL FRALEY, YOU DON'T SEE -- THERE'S NO OTHER EMERGENCY EXIT AT THIS POINT THAT YOU CAN SEE ON THAT PROPERTY OTHER THAN ALONG THAT LINE.
DUE TO THE WAY THAT THE SITE MAP HAS BEEN LAID OUT, THAT'S CORRECT.
>> SO WE REVIEWED THIS PROJECT, STAFF'S REVIEWED THIS PROJECT.
WE DETERMINED THIS EVA IS NECESSARY FOR THE TENTATIVE TRACT MAP.
I GUESS IF WE WERE LOOKING AT AN APPROVAL, THE ASSUMPTION IS THE CONDITION WOULD BE PLACED ON THE MAP REQUIRING THE APPLICANT, THE DEVELOPER TO OBTAIN RIGHTS FOR THAT EVA.
WE'VE NEVER INVESTIGATED THE LIKELIHOOD OF THAT HAPPENING.
I GUESS IT ALMOST SEEMS PREMATURE THAT THE APPLICATION IS EVEN HERE IF THERE'S NO ACCESS TO THE EVA AND THEY CAN'T GET IT, THEN THERE'S NO MAP.
WE'VE SPENT TWO HOURS ON THIS RIGHT NOW.
THREE MEETINGS OR SOMETHING LIKE THIS ON THIS ALREADY.
THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS ARE ALL RILED UP ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL.
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AND AS ACKNOWLEDGING NOTHING HERE IS WRITTEN IN STONE.WE CAN CONSIDER CHANGES TO THE CODE, POLICY AT ANY TIME.
THIS JUST HAPPENS TO BE ONE THE ONE BEFORE US AT MOMENT.
JUST IN THE INTERESTS OF TIME, WE DON'T HAVE A RECOMMENDATION TONIGHT.
WE DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE ACCESS RIGHT FOR EVA WHICH COULD TOTALLY KILL THE MAP REGARDLESS.
SINCE WE'RE BEING ASKED TO CONTINUE HAD TO TO A DATE IN THE FUTURE AT ANY TIME, I'M CURIOUS IF WE CAN DO THAT NOW AND NOT SPEND ANOTHER HOUR DELIBERATING THIS AND JUST MOVE PAST THIS ITEM BECAUSE WE CAN'T MAKE A DECISION ON THIS TONIGHT ANYWAYS.
>> I HATE TO SAY THIS BUT I AGREE WITH YOU COMPLETELY.
WITHOUT THAT EMERGENCY VEHICLE ACCESS, ANYTHING WE DO, IT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING.
SO WOULD YOU RECOMMEND MAYBE MOVING IT TO OCTOBER 14TH AND GIVE THEM TIME TO TRY AND WORK OUT THE EV ACCESS? DO WE THINK TWO WEEKS IS ENOUGH? WHAT AM I HEARING HERE? ANY COMMENTS FROM ANY OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS OR STAFF ON THIS ITEM?
>> I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER CEJA, ESPECIALLY DOING SOMETHING AS GRAND AS MAKING A CHANGE TO THE GENERAL PLAN TO GO IN DENIES IS ITY FROM ZERO TO 98 THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AREA.
SO, YEAH, I AGREE, AND IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF TIME, WHY SPEND A LOT OF TIME DELIBERATING== WHEN STEPS ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR AND STEP FIVE MIGHT NOT EVEN BE ATTAINABLE.
>> VICE CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ, ANY COMMENTS?
>> I JUST WANT TO ASK IF THE APPLICANT WOULD BE READY IN TWO WEEKS TO BRING IT IT BACK TO US.
AND I'LL HOLD MY OTHER COMMENTS FOR STAFF, GIVEN THAT THIS IS MY SECOND MEETING INTO THIS BUT I'M JUST A LITTLE KIND OF TAKEN ABACK HOW LONG IT'S TAKEN AND THERE'S NO REAL RECOMMENDATION ON THIS PROJECT.
BUT I'M GOING TO RESERVE MY TIME FOR LATER ON IN THE MEETING, A TIME.
>> SO WE WILL LEAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN.
AND CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THIS ITEM TO OCTOBER 14TH.
>> I'LL RECOMMEND THAT WE CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO OCTOBER 14TH.
WAS THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER YSIANO?
>> CIVIL RIGHTS CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ.
>> YES -- -- >> MOTION CARRIES 4-==0.
>> THANK YOU, EVERYONE, FOR THE ALL THE TIME AND WE HOPE TO BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING IN TWO WEEKS.
DO WE WANT TO TAKE A TEN-MINUTE BREAK? SO CAN WE PLEASE HAVE A TEN-MINUTE BREAK.
SO LET'S COME BACK AT EXACTLY 8:00.
EVELYN, ARE WE READY TO RESTART?
GO AHEAD AND BRING THE PLANNING COMMISSION BACK ONLINE.
AND MOVE ON TO ITEM 8.2, THE CROSSINGS PROJECT.
[8.2 The Crossings Project:]
IF WE COULD PLEASE HAVE A STAFF REPORT.>> GOOD EVENING AGAIN, MADAME CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE REST ON MY SCREEN.
AS YOU SAID, THIS IS THE CROSSINGS PROJECT WHICH INCLUDES ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENTS, SPECIFIC PLAN AND A TENTATIVE TRACT MAP.
SO THE PROJECT IS LOCATED NORTH OF AVENUE 50 AND EAST OF JEFFERSON STREET BEHIND THE CURRENT CITRUS PLAZA AND TO THE NORTH IS THE STRUZ PLAZA II WHICH IS THE EXTENSION OF THE SHOPPING CENTER.
TO THE NORTH AND EAST OF THE CROSSING PROJECTS DESERT RIVER ESTATES IS LOCATED AND ALSO A COUPLE OF LARGER LOTS ON THE SOUTHEAST==.
CURRENTLY THE GENERAL PLAN FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH ALLOWS 8 UNITS PER ACRE.
AND CURRENTLY, AND CURRENTLY THE ZONING -- SORRY, I THOUGHT I CHANGED THAT, BUT THE ZONING IS COUNTRY ESTATES TRANSITION, WHICH WAS A CHANGE IN 2013 AND ALLOWS MINIMUM OF 13,000 SQUARE FEET LOT SIZEES.
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>> LEILA, IF I MAY, ARE YOU SHOWING A POWERPOINT NOW IT? L IS BEING SHARED.
>> I'M SO PROUD OF MYSELF WITH THE PRESENTATION, EVERYBODY IS LISTENING TO ME.
SO ANYHOW, LET'S RESTART AGAIN.
SO CROSSINGS PROJECT, PROSINGS PROJECT HAS THREE ENTITLEMENTS, VAIRMTAL ASSESSMENTS, SPECIFIC PLAN AND TENTATIVE TRACT MAP.
THE PROJECT IS LOCATED WITHIN THE BOUNDARY OF THIS RED LINE, AND IT IS LOCATED NORTH OFN== AVENUE 50, WEST OF JEFFERSON STREET, I'M SORRY -- EAST OF JEFFERSON STREET AND EAST OF CITRUS PLAZA WHICH IS THE RALPH'S SHOPPING CENTER, AND TO THE NORTH IS CITRUS PLAZA II WHICH IS THE EXTENSION OF THE SHOPPING CENTER.
AND NORTH OF THE PROJECT AND EAST, AS YOU SEE THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, THOSE ARE DESERT RIVER ESTATES, AND THEN THERE ARE TWO LARGER LOTS HERE WHICH ONE, THE LARGEST LOT IS BEING USED AS A SHORT-TERM RENTAL OR AN EVENT PROPERTY, AND HERE IT'S ANOTHER LARGE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, AND TO THE SOUTH IS CITY OF LA QUINTA'S JURISDICTION.
I THOUGHT IT CHAINGTD BACK BUT I DIDN'T.
CURRENTLY THE ZONING FOR THE PROJECT IS COUNTRY ESTATES TRANSITION WHICH ALLOWS 30,000 SQUARE FEET LOT SIZES.
A SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH ALLOWS 8 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
IT ALLOWS SINGLE FAMILY AND SOME RESIDENTIAL HIGH DENSITY PER THE GENERAL PLAN==.
SO THESE ARE THE RENDERINGINGS OF THE PROJECT.
AS YOU SEE, THIS IS AVENUE 50.
AND THIS SHOWS THE SETBACK COMPARED TO THE LARGE RESIDENTIAL LOTS ON THE EAST.
AND HERE IT SHOWS THE COMMON AREAS AS WELL.
SO THE PROJECT HAS FOUR DIFFERENT PRODUCTS OR HOUSING TYPES.
THE PURPLE, DARK BLUE IS FOURPLEX UNITS, THAT THEY ARE BASICALLY NEXT TO THE COMMERCIAL, AND THEY'VE BEEN SET BACK FROM DESERT RIVER BY THESE TWO LOTS.
THEY WILL BE TWO-STORY UNITS AND THEY ARE RANGING FROM 1400 TO 1500 APPROXIMATELY.
THE AREA TO THE SINGLE STORY DID YOU PLEXEDES.
AS YOU SEW HE EAR HAD IT'S PIR PINKISH RED AND THEY HAVE TWO STORY DUPLEXES THAT THEY ARE CLOSER TO AVENUE 50.
AS YOU RECALL THIS PROJECT CAME BEFORE YOU AS PROJECT CONSULTATION A MONTH AGO, AND THE COMMISSION'S DIRECTION WAS TO MOVE THE TALLER BUILDING AND THE SMALLER LOTS TOWARD AVENUE 50.
AND THEN THE PROJECTN== ALSO PROPOSES SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED RANGING FROM 2000 TO 2500 SQUARE FEET OF HOMES, WHICH THEY ARE ON THE BORDER OR ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE PROJECT.
THESE ARE THE TYPICAL FLOOR PLANS, TWO AND THREE BEDROOMS, TWO-CAR GRAWNLS.
THIS IS FOUR COMPLEX FLOOR PLAN.
AND HERE ARE THE ELEVATIONS AND THE CONCEPT FOR THE DESIGN, WHICH IS KIND OF LIKE MODERN CONTEMPORARY WITH SLEEK, CLEAR LINES.
AND AGAIN OTHER TYPE OF ELEVATIONS OR OTHER ELEVATIONS.
AND THESE ARE ONE-STORY, AS YOU SEE.
THERE'S A SCALE OF HUMAN AND CARS SO YOU CAN COMPARE AS FAR AS THE SCALE.
AND HERE IT SHOWS THE PROJECT AS FAR AS THE LANDSCAPING.
AS YOU SEE, THEY HAVE WALKWAYS THAT THEY CONNECT THE NORTH TO THE SOUTH.
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ALSO, THEY HAVE ACCESSES THAT WILL BE GATED AND WILL BE ONLY USED BY THE COMMUNITY, THAT THEY CAN ACCESS TO THE SHOPPING CENTER.THIS IS AGAIN JUST A TRACT MAP.
THEY HAVE 48 RESIDENTIAL LOTS, BUT THEY ARE BUILDING 103 UNITS BECAUSE SOME OF THEM ARE FOURPLEXES AND DUPLEXES.
AND THAT CONCLUDES THE STAFF REPORT.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL FOR THIS PROJECT BASED ON THE FACT THAT THE DENSITY THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING, IT MEETS THE DENSITY OF GENERAL PLAN, AND THE SPECIFIC PLAN IS ALSO MEETS THE CITY'S GENERAL PLAN.
THEY NEED TO COME BACK WITH A DETAILED DESIGN FOR DESIGN REVIEW.
THEY'RE SHOWING A CONCEPT WITH THE SPECIFIC PLAN, BUT THE APPLICANT NEEDS TO COME BACK FOR THE CONSTRUCTION WITH THE DESIGN WHICH WILL BE A DESIGN REVIEW PROJECT REVIEW BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND THAT DESIG NEEDS TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SPECIFIC PLAN, SHOULD THE PLANNING COMMISSION CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THE PROJECT.
THAT CONCLUDES THE STAFF REPORT.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.
AND THE APPLICANT AND HIS TEAM ALSO ARE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF AT THIS TIME? COMMISSIONER CEJA.
ON AVENUE 50 DO WE HAVE A BUILD-OUT FOR THE FRONTAGE OF THIS PROJECT?
>> WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY BUILD-OUT?
>> SO ONE OF THE MORE INTERESTING THINGS THAT THE PREVIOUS PROPOSAL HAS SHOWN I WAS PARKWAY, A CURB ADJACENT LANDSCAPE WITH THE SIDEWALK SEPARATED FROM THE CURB.
SO THEY HAVE A WIDE LANDSCAPE IN THE FRONT AND THEN THIS IS THE SIDE LOT THAT CONTINUES TO CONNECT TO THE SIDEWALK ON THE EAST AND WEST.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF AT THIS TIME? NO? OKAY.
WE'D LIKE TO WELCOME THE APPLICANT TO GIVE US A PRESENTATION ON THIS ITEM.
MY NAME IS KEITH CHRISTIANSEN.
I'D LIKE TO THANK LEILA AND STAFF FOR PUTTING TOGETHER OUR PROJECT, AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO FOR LISTENING TO THIS PROJECT THIS EVENING.
I'M WITH CHRISTIANSEN & COMPANY.
I'M A 5225 CANYON CREST DRIVE.
>> WOULD YOU PLEASE MUTE ANY DEVICES YOU MAY HAVE IN THE BACKGROUND.
THIS IS ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY SACH HEINZELMAN.
IF I MAY INTERJECT I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY FOR THE RECORD THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING HAS BEEN OPEN.
PLEASE CONTINUE, MR. CHRISTIANSEN.
>> ITEM JUSES GOING TO GLET BACK TO THE ADDRESS.
I'M WITH CHRISTIANSEN AND 15, 5225 CANYON CREST DRIVE, SUITE 251, RIVERSIDE, CALIFORNIA 92506 AND I'M OF A CIVIL ENGINEER AND PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE THE CROSSINGS.
I THOUGHT I'D START THE PROJECT WITH A LITTLE BIT OF INSIGHT OF HOW THIS PROJECT ACTUALLY EVOLVED.
THE DEVELOPER DAVID MORRIS DECIDED TO PURCHASE THIS PROPERTY IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR, 20, AND THAT WAS QUITE A FEW MONTHS AFTER THE GENERAL PLAN UPDATE WAS APPROVED SEPTEMBER 18TH OF 2019.
THE EMPHASIS FOR THE CROSSINGS CAME DIRECTLY FROM THE CITY OF INDIO, AND THEIR FORWARD VISION THROUGH THE GENERAL PLAN UPDATE.
THE EDITION NATION FOR THIS SITE PER THE GENERAL PLAN UPDATE IS SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IT'S A FITTING DESCRIPTION FOR THI PROJECT BECAUSE WE ARE RIGHT UP NEXT TO EXISTING RALPH'S CENTER, COMMERCIAL, THE RECENTLY APPROVED CITRUS PLAZA II COMMERCIAL CENTERN==, AND IT REALLY LENDS ITSELF RIGHT TO THE GENERAL PLAN.
IF WE WANT TO GO A LITTLE CLEARER ON THE DEFINITIONS AT THE CROSSINGS ONE ONLY NEEDS TO LOOK AT A CHAPTER 3, PAGE 17.
IT'S ENTITLED LAND USE AND URBAN DESIGN, AND THAT'S OF THE UPDATED CITY OF INDIO GENERAL PLAN.
THIS SECTION IN ESSENCE DESCRIBES THE CROSSINGS.
THE SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD IS DEFINED A FOLLOWS.
A NEIGHBOR DEVELOPMENT THAT FEATURES A LIMITED VARIETY OF HOUSING CHOICES AND THE USES ARE PRIMARILY SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES WITH SMALL, LOW INTENSITY MULTIPLE
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FAMILY DWELLINGS AND GROUPINGS ORGANIZES ALONG A STREET SCRAPES WITH COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL ACTIVITY NEARBY.THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE HERE.
I THINK THE CITY OF INDIO, AS WHEN WE HEARD IN THE PRIOR HEARING, TOOK FIVE YEARS TO PUT THIS GENERAL PLAN TOGETHER.
SO I THINK THEY ACTUALLY WERE WELL THOUGHT IN THEIR VISION FOR THE EXPANSION OF THE CITY OF INDIO, AND THIS PROJECT FITS RIGHT INTO THAT GAME PLAN.
ON THE SAME PAGE THERE'S SOME BULLET POINTS.
THE FIRST ONE'S ALLOWED LAND USES, AND IT STATES SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, MULTIPLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, PARKS AND RECREATION.
ALSO STATES, ALLOWED DEVELOPMENT INTENSITIES.
UP TO EIGHT TWELG UNITS PER AREA,.
WE'RE TWM 6.2 DWELLING UNITS PERRY ACRES AND A TOTAL OF 103 UNITS, BUT PLEASE REMEMBER WE FIRST CAME TO THE CITY NOR OUR PREAPPLICATION WITH A LAYOUT WITH 118 UNITS.
LEILA ALLUDEDN TO== THE MEETINGS WE HAD WITH DRC THAT WE REVISED AND CHANGED OUR ENTIRE PLAN FOR, AND THE MOST IMPORTANT WAS OUR PLANNING COMMISSION PREAPPLICATION, I CALL IT STUDY SESSION FOR THE PROJECT WHICH WE DID INCORPORATE, AS LEILA NOTED, MOVING ALL OUR FOURPLEXES OVER TO THE WEST ALONG THE EXISTING PROPOSED COMMERCIAL.
WE KEPT ALL OUR RESIDENTIAL ALONG THE PERIMETERS OF DESERT RIVER.
AND DELETED TWO FOURPLEXES IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER.
AND IN ADDITION WE MOVED ALL OF OUR TWO-STORY COMPLEXES DOWN CLOSER TO 50TH.
THESE ARE ALL SUGGESTIONS GIVEN TO US BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION DURING THAT SESSION, AND WE ADHERED TO ALL OF THOSE.
THE THIRD BULLET POINT IS STREETSCAPES, AND THAT REQUIRES STREETS OR LANDSCAPING WITH FORMAL OR INFORMAL STREET PATTERNS AND SIDEWALKS ON AT LEAST ONE SIDE.
OUR STREET LANDSCAPES INSIDE ARE DESIGNED AFTER MEETING WITH PLANNING AND PUBLIC WORKS.
WE HAVE A FEW STEPS OF AND CAME UP WITH THE -- SKETCHES AND CAME UP WITH THE LANDSCAPE AND SIDEWALK DESIGNS NOTED ON OUR DESIGN PACKAGE HERE==.
THE FOURTH POINT IS OPEN SPACE.
MUCH OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD OPEN SPACE PER THE GENERAL PLAN IS GIVE GENEROUS STREETSCAPES, NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS, GREENWAY PARKS AND TRAILS.
YOU WE HAVE A LARGE PARK OH THIS PLAN.
WITHIN THAT PART WE WENT TO THE EXTRA EXPENSE A DEVELOPER HAS TO PUT IN UNDERGROUND RETENTION SYSTEMS TO TAKE ALL STORM WATER, 100% OF THE STORM FLOW INTO THE UNDERGROUND STORAGE SYSTEM.
THE BEAUTY OF THAT IS THERE ISN'T AN EARTHEN RETENTION BASIN LIKE YOU MIGHT SEE ON DESERT RIVER ABOVE AND WE HAVE NO VECTOR CONTROL ISSUES BECAUSE OF IT.
IT'S A LARGE EXPENSE, BUT I THINK IT INCREASES THE BEAUTY OF THE DESIGN ITSELF.
IN ADDITION, TO THAT OPEN SPACE WE HAVE A SMALL POOL HOUSE, A LARGE POOL AND WE HAVE A SPLASH PAD FOR CHILDREN.
AND WALKABILITY, NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, WEST, FROM ALL UNITS TO THIS AREA.
THE LAST WAS A BULLET POINT FOR BUILDING FORM AND CHARACTER.
AND THAT STATES ONE AND TWO SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES, MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING, AND WE'VE COVERED ALL OF THOSE -- STORY HOUSES, EXCUSE ME, WE'VE CIEWFERLD THOSE WITHIN OUR PROJECT HERE.
THE CROSSINGS REALLY, HAS UTILIZED THE GENERAL PLAN, AND ALONG WITH STAFF ASSISTANCE AS WELL AS THE DRC AND PLANNING COMMISSION STUDY SESSION, WE HAVE KIND USED THAT ALL AS A TEMPLATE TO DESIGN THIS PROJECT.
I THINK THIS WOULD BE THE== FIRST ATTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE CITY OF INDIO WITH PRICES STARTING BELOW $400,000.
THERE'S A NEED FOR THIS IN THE CITY OF INDIO.
THE CROSSINGS IS ALSO, I BELIEVE, THE FIRST TO HAVE CONNECTIVITY FROM WITHIN ITS STREETS TO ADJACENT COMMERCIAL.
THE COMMERCIAL TO THE WEST OF US HERE PROVIDES FAMILIES TO WALK OVER TOY RETAIL, OVER TO RESTAURANTS, OVER TO SHOPPING, AND I THINK IN TURN DECREASED TRAFFIC COMING OUT OF THE ENTRIES AND EXITS TO THE CROSSINGS, DECREASING NOISE, DECREASING POOR AIR QUALITY.
REMEMBER, CONNECTIVITY IN THE GENERAL PLAN WAS ONE OF THE MAIN BULLET POINTS, AND WE'VE TAKEN CARE OF THAT ON THIS PROJECT.
WE HAD THE RARE ABILITY TO HAVE EXISTING AND PROPOSED COMMERCIAL TO THE WEST OF
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US, WHICH IS A BENEFIT FOR EVERYBODY IN THIS COMMUNITY.AND REMEMBER THAT PRICE POINT STARTING AT UNDER $400,000.
THAT'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET NEW PROFESSIONALS, NEW FAMILIES INTO A COACHELLA VALLEY THAT I THINK IS IN SOME CASES PRICING ITSELF OUT.
SO THAT DOES GIVE AN ABILITY FOR AN ALL-AROUND EXPERIENCE FOR A FAMILY.
ONE OTHER POINT I'D LIKE TO MAKE, WHEN IT COMES TO OUR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES, WE PUT THOSE ALONG THE PERIMETER TO BUFFER DESERT RIVER.
WE MOVED THEM AS CLOSE AS WE COULD UP TO THE STREET TO GIVE SEPARATION BETWEEN THE EXISTING RESIDENCES AND, IN TURN, PER THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND PER PUBLIC WORKS, WE MADE SURE ALL OF OUR PADS WERE AT OR LOWER THAN EXISTING PADS AT DESERT RIVER.
THAT WAS A REQUEST BY STAFF, AND IT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD WANT TO DO ANYWAYS FOR PEOPLE LIVING AT DESERT RIVER.
AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE SUGGESTION DURING THE STUDY SESSION WAS TO INCLUDE TWO STORY UNITS ALONG THE WEST AND THE SOUTH IT.
IT TOOK SOME REDUCTION, WHICH IS 13% REDUCTION ON THE WHOLE SITE, BUT WE MADE THAT WORK.
I THINK WE CAME UP WITH A PLAN THAT WE'RE PROUD OF, AND I HOPE THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL NOTICE WE DID HEED THEIR ADVICE AND TOOK A HIT ON THE DWELLING UNITS, BUT I THINK WE GOT A NICE PROJECT OUT OF IT.
IN CONCLUSION, WE WORK WITH CITY STAFF, PLANNING COMMISSIONERS, MET WITH DESERT RIVER HOA, RESPONDED TO ALSO AND COMMUNICATION BY OTHERS AND BY OUR ENVIRONMENTAL STAFF, WE PLACED A SIGN ON THE PROPERTY WITH MY CONTACT INFORMATION IN ORDER TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS PERTAINING TO THE PROJECT.
WE DID GET SOME RESPONSES ON THAT.
WE ALSO DESIGNED A SITE FOR THE RECENTLY ADOPTED GENERAL PLAN.
CITY STAFF COMMISSIONERS' SUGGESTIONS AND CONDUCTED STUDIES THAT SATISFIED THE NATIVE DECORATION AND MITIGATED THE NATIVE DECORATION.
SO WE'RE ASKING FOR APPROVAL ON THIS PROJECT TONIGHT.
THE IF SUCCESSFUL WE PLAN ON GRADING THE SITE BEFORE THE END OF THIS YEAR.
I AND MY TEAM OF DESIGNERS, ENGINEERS AND, ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANTS ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS, AND I REALLY WANT TO THANK YOU FOR HEARING THIS PROJECT TONIGHT.
ALL I ASK IS THAT I CAN REBUTTAL ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS TONIGHT AND ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS BY PLANNING COMMISSION.
THANK YOU FOR SEEING US TONIGHT.
>> THANK YOU, MR. CHRISTIANSEN.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF AT THIS TIME OR DO WE WANT PUBLIC COMMENT? NO? SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
EVELYN, DO WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
AND I WILL ADMIT MR. MIKE REECE.
MR. REECE, CAN YOU HEAR US? MR. REECE, CAN YOU HEAR US? MR. REECE, CAN YOU HEAR US? ARE YOU WITH US? MIKE REECE?
YOU ARE NOW LIVE AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO PROVIDE ORAL TESTIMONY.
MY WIFE AND OUR FAMILY LIVE ACROSS THE STREET IN THE PROPERTY DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THIS PROPOSED PROJECT.
FACT I LOOK OUT MY KITCHEN WINDOW RIGHT AT THE PROPERTY.
MY BIGGEST CONCERNS WITH THIS IS IT SEEMS LOOK THE DENSITY AND THE DEVELOPMENT HERE DOESN'T REALLY FIT IN WITH THE BUILDING AND THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE AROUND US.
WE OWN HORSE PROPERTY, SO DO OUR NEIGHBORS, AND WE LOOK AT THIS AS A HUGE COMMERCIALIZATION OF THIS AREA.
WE'RE QUITE PROUD OF THE FACT THAT THIS IS KIND OF A UNIQUE AREA WHERE THROUGHOUT THE COACHELLA VALLEY THERE IS ONE DECH DEVELOPED GATED COMMUNITY AFTER THE NEXT.
THIS IS ONE OF THE FEW PARTS OF INDIO WE ACTUALLY LIVE IN LA QUINTA BUT WE'RE YOUR VERY CLOSEST NEIGHBORS, WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS A VERY SPECIAL PART OF THE VALLEY, AND WE FEEL LIKE DEVELOPMENTS LIKE THIS ARE ATTEMPTING TO CHANGE ALL OF THAT.
I HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT THIS BUT MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS JUST THE AMOUNT
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OF HOUSES THAT ARE BEING PUT INTO A 16-ACRE LOT.WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT A PREVIOUS DEVELOPMENT THAT'S ON 45 ACRES THAT WANTS TO DEVELOP THE SAME AMOUNT OF RESIDENCES.
IT SEEMS AS THOUGH IT'S AN AWFUL LOT FOR A VERY SMALL SPACE.
SO MY BIGGEST CONCERNS IS THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC, THE NOISE AND THE CONGESTION THAT THIS IS GOING TO BRING.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S WALK PATHS BUT THAT REALLY IS CONTINGENT ON THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE ACTUALLY UTILIZING THEM.
THE OTHER CONCERN I HAVE WHEN I LOOK AT THESE TWO-STORY DUPLEXES AND FOURPLEXES, TO ME THESE ARE CUSTOM-MADE AS SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
MY BIGGEST FEAR IS THAT THESE HOUSES AREN'T BOUGHT BY FAMILIES.
THESE DUPLEXES AND BASICALLY CONDOS AND LOOKING AT YOUR ELEVATION THEY LOOK AN AWFUL LOT LIKE APARTMENT BUILDINGS, ARE JUST GOING TO BE UTILIZED AS STHOARMT RENTALS, SHORT-TERM RENTALS NAMELY FOR IF COACHELLA FEST, STAGECOACH CONCERTS AND ANY NUMBER OF EVENTS, THE GOL TENNIS TOURNAMENTS AND THAT KIND OF THING.
SO MY BIGGEST CONCERN BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD SOME EXPERIENCES IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, ESPECIALLY WITH THE COACHELLA FEST, OF PEOPLE RENTING HOUSES ON A SHORT-TERM BASIS, THROWING LOUD PARTIES UNTIL ALL HOURS OF THE EVENING AND EARLY INTO THE MORNING, AND WE'VE HAD AN== INTERNS JUSES JUST A FEW YEARS AGO WHERE WE WERE CALLING THE INDIO POLICE DEPARTMENT ABOUT -- AND COMPLAINING ABOUT THE NOISE AND WERE BASICALLY TOLD THERE WAS NOTHING THEY COULD DO ABOUT IT.
SO MY CONCERN IS, AS THESE DEVELOPERS COME IN AND BUILD THESE PROJECTS AND SELL THESE PROJECTS AND MOVE ON, TAKE THEIR MONEY AND MOVE TOWN, WE, THE RESIDENTS AND THE CITY OF INDIO AND THE CITY OF LA QUINTA ARE LEFT DEALING WITH THE ISSUES OF WHAT'S BEEN CREATED HERE.
>> YEAH, I'M SORRY, SIR, YOUR TIME IS UP IF YOU WANT TO JUST WRAP UP YOUR THOUGHT HERE.
>> MY THING IS IS THAT I DON'T THINK THE CITY OF INDIO HAS THE ABILITY TO CONTROL THE ISSUES THAT COME WITH THE SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND I THINK THIS IS TOO HIGH DENSITY OF A PROJECT.
I THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
>> AND THE NEXT PERSON IS MR. PAUL GOFF AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND ADMIT HIM NOW.
MR. GOFF, CAN YOU HEAR US? MR. PAUL GOFF, CAN YOU HEAR US? ARE YOU WITH US? MR. GOFF, CAN YOU HEAR US? PAUL GOFF, CAN YOU HEAR US? I THINK HE'S HERE NOW.
MR. GOFF, CAN YOU HEAR US? MR. GOFF? IF YOU DON'T MIND, CHAIRPERSON, I'D LIKE TO READ A STATEMENT INTO THE RECORD WHILE WE GET MR. GOFF ON THE LINE.
>> PLEASE UNMUTE YOUR OTHER DEVICES.
>> WE'VE BEEN HITTING STAR 6 FOR LIKE A MINUTE.
>> SO I OWN A PROPERTY THAT'S DIRECTLY TO THE EAST WITH TWO PARTNERS, AND I HOPE, I REALLY HOPE THAT ALL OF YOU LISTENING WILL UNDERSTAND HOW EXCITING IT WAS FOR MY PARTNER AND BEST FRIEND AND I TO FIND TWO HOMES, WE WERE LOOKING FOR AN EQUESTRIAN RANCH, AND WE'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR A LONG DIME.
WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR OVER 23 YEARS.
IF ANYONE WANTS TO LOOK ME UP, THEY SEE I RECEIVE MY MAIL IN LOS ANGELES AT MY CORPORATE OFFICE THAT I GO TO PROBABLY TWICE A MONTH, BUT I'M A DESERT RESIDENT, NEONOT A CARPET BAGGER.
WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT IT WAS VERY EXCITING FOR US WHEN WE FOUND THIS PROPERTY.
WE COULDN'T REALLY SEE IT FROM THE ROAD BECAUSE THERE WAS SO MUCH DEAD BRUSH BUT ONCE WE GOT FOUND WHAT WE'D BEEN LOOKING
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FOR WHICH WAS REALLY ONE OF THE LAST SURVIVING ORIGINAL, AND I'LL TELL YOU EVEN MORE IMPORTANT, AN AUTHENTIC RANCH PROPERTY.IT WAS LIKE A SOLE SURVIVOR IN A SEA OF GATED COMMUNITIES.
IT WAS REALLY A FIND, AND I JUST CAN'T -- I HOPE THAT ALL OF YOU THAT GREW UP HERE OR LIVE HERE UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT THIS WAS FOR US.
WE SAW IT AS A PROJECT THAT WE COULD RESTORE AND THAT WE COULD ENJOY, NOT EXPAND.
AND NONE OF US ARE OPPOSED TO DEVELOPMENT.
BUILD HOMES AND MY PARTNER SANDRA IS AN ACCOMPLISHED ARCHITECT.
BUT THE THING THAT WAS EXCITING FOURS WHEN WE BOUGHT IT THAT WE LEARNED ABOUT THE ZONING, IT WAS RANCH AND IF WE TOOK DOWN THINGS LIKE OUR UGLY FENCE IN THE FRONT WE'D IMMEDIATELY TO HAVE PUT UP A BIG BLOCK WALL AND WE WEREN'T IN FAVOR OF THAT.
WE JUST ASKED THE TOWN WHAT WE WOULD DO, AND I WAS TOLD BY THE TOWN OFFICES THAT AVENUE 50, THE VISION FOR AVENUE 50 IS TO BE A BOULEVARD, A GAIT WAY TOAL WHAT BE KNOWN AS THE FESTIVAL CAPITAL OF CALIFORNIA, AND THAT JUST REALLY MADE ME FEEL WONDERFUL.
OKAY? AND AS WE ALL KNOW, THAT WHEN YOU -- MOST RANCHES THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE== AREA HAVE MET THE BULLDOZER.
THEY'VE BECOME GATED COMMUNITIES.
AND I'M NOT ANTI-GATED COMMUNITIES.
BUT WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS IT'S IMPORTANT IF YOU HAVE A FL BOULEVARD, WHEN PEOPLE TRAVEL OR BOULEVARD THAT'S MEMORABLE AND BE WHEN YOU THINK OF THAT TOWN YOU VISUALIZE IT, WHETHER IT'S A SMALL TOWN THAT YOU GREW UP IN OR A BIG CITY OR SOMETHING, YOU THINK OF THIS ONE MAIN ROAD, AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS TOLD THAT INDIO HAD FOR THIS VISION OF AVENUE 50.
WHEN I THOUGHT ABOUT THE EMPIRE POLO CLUB DOWN AT THE END OF THE STREET WHERE PEOPLE OF ALL CLASSES WORK AND LIVE AND ENJOY AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE YOU CAN BE HAD A HORSE OWNER OR YOU CAN BE THE PERSON WHO CLEANS UP AFTER THE HORSE, DOESN'T MATTER, IT HAS A BEAUTY THAT WE ALL ENJOY.
AND MY CONCERN IS ABOUT OVERDEVELOPMENT.
I FEEL THAT THERE SHOULD BE -- IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOOK TO A BOULEVARD, IT SHOULD LOOK LIKE A BOULEVARD, A BOULEVARD OF RANCHES.
I HAVE A BEAUTIFUL RANCH ACROSS THE STREET.
I THINK THE PREVIOUS MAN SPOKE ABOUT HIS HORSE RANCH.
NEXT TO ME IS A BEAUTIFUL RANCH.
I KNOW THEY VACATION RENT IT BUT IT STILL IS AN EXTRAORDINARY RANCH THAT'S NOT BEHIND A GATE.
AND MY BIG FEAR IS THAT I JUST DON'T WANT THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR OVERDEVELOPED.
IF YOU'RE ON AVENUE 50, IT SHOULD BE A BOULEVARD.
IT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT LOOKS LIKE OLD CALIFORNIA.
>> SIR, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
>> WE CALL UPON SANDRA BLOCK, AND I BELIEVE SHE'S IN THE CALL WITH MR. BLOCK.
AS PAUL MENTIONED I AM AN ARCHITECT.
I'VE WORKED WITH MANY COMMUNITIES, UNIVERSITIES AND CULTURAL INSTITUTIONS, NOT ONLY FOR DESIGNING BUILDING OF ALL BUILDING TYPES BUT SUBSTANTIALLY IN MASTER PLANNING FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
AND WHAT I NEED TO EMPHASIZE HERE IS THAT WHAT IS AT RISK IS INDIO'S IDENTITY AND IMAGE, AND THIS IS IRREVOCABLE WITH THE TYPE OF DENSITY THAT I'M LOOKING AT HERE THAT IS INCON GRIEWS WITH ANYTHING ELSE -- INCONGRUOUS WITH ANYTHING OALS ELSE ON THIS AVENUE, AVENUE 50.
IT MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE TO ME.
AND I APPRECIATE WHAT THE PRESENTER MENTIONED IN TERMS OF BEING RESPONSIVE TO== STAFF AND SUGGESTIONS AND ADJUSTING PLANS, BUT I THINK THE WHOLE IDEA THAT IS TERRIBLY MISGUIDED.
WHEN YOU HAVE COMPROMISED THE INTEGRITY OF AN AREA LIKE THIS, WHICH IS SO UNIQUE, I'M ACTUALLY LOCATED ON OR FORMERLY WAS LOCATED ON THE EAST COAST IN CONNECTICUT.
BUT I'VE WORKED ALL OVER THE COUNTRY ASSISTING TOWNS LIKE YOURS THINK LONG AND HARD ABOUT WHAT THEIR MISSION AND THEIR VISION IS.
AND I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS.
I THINK IT IS A -- IT'S A GRAVE MISTAKE.
AND IT HAPPENS, YOU CHANGE THE ENTIRE AREA AND YOU SET THE TONE FOR SOMETHING WHICH IS NOT I THINK THE IMAGE AND THE IDENTITY THAT INDIO WANTS FOR ITSELF.
SO I WOULD LOOK AT PROPERTY ON THAT AVENUE AND PLEASE CITE FORE ME IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT COMES CLOSE TO THE DENSITY AND THE IMAGE THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT IS INTENDING TO PROJECT.
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I HAVEN'T SEEN.IT P AS PAUL MENTIONED, OUR PURPOSE OF PURCHASING THE PROPERTY TOKES NECKS TO IT IS REST TRAWTION AND TO HAVE A SENSE OF ARCHITECTURAL INTEGRITY, TO KEEP AN OPEN SPACE WHERE THERE'S THE FORMER CORRAL THAT'S GOING TO REMAIN AS AN OPEN LANDSCAPE SO THAT PEOPLE CAN ENJOY THE LANDSCAPE, AND WE BELIEVE THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH OTHER PROPERTIES EVEN THOUGH WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD THERE.
WE'RE GOING TO -- -- RESPECT== THAT NEIGHBORHOOD FEEL, THAT AVENUE PROJECTS.
I THINK THAT'S REALLY WHAT I WANT TO CONTRIBUTE TO THIS, JUST THAT IT REALLY IS A VERY, VERY IMPORTANT DECISION THAT THIS COMMITTEE HAS TO MAKE, AND IT WILL ENDURE AND IT WILL FOREVER CHANGE THAT AVENUE 50.
AND I HAVE A STATEMENT THAT I WILL READ INTO THE RECORD FROM MR. BERNARD.
CONCERNING THE CROSSINGS PROJECT.
WE ROBERT LIVE ACROSS THE STREET FRA THIS PROJECT FROM THIS PROJECTED MAN P OUR ADDRESS IS 80225 AVENUE 50 LA QUINTA, CALIFORNIA 92253.
WE ARE VERY CONCERNED WITH THE TRAFFIC GETTING IN AND OUT OF OUR RESIDENCE.
ALONG WITH THE ABILITY TO EXITES WEST OR EAST ON AVENUE 50 FROM OUR HOME.
THE TRAFFIC ON AVENUE 50 HAS ALREADY INCREASED TREMENDOUSLY IN THE PAST YEARS NOT TO MENTION THE HUGE INCREASE OF LITTER AND RUBBISH THAT WE HAVE BEEN RECEIVING IN FRONT OF OUR PROPERTY ON AVENUE 50.
HOW DO YOU PLAN ON CONTROLLING THE TRAFFIC COMING IN AND OUT OF THIS PROJECT? PLEASE RESPOND TO ROBERT AND TINA CUNARD P.O.
BOX 1065 LA QUINTA, THEIR EMAIL, AND THIS IS PART OF A RECORDS REQUEST AS WELL.
THAT, CHAIRPERSON, COMPLETES PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS ITEM.
SO DOES THE APPLICANT LIKE TO RESPOND TO ANY OF THESE COMMENTS AT THIS TIME? SIR, YOU'RE MUTED.
>> YES, I WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND JUST TO A COUPLE OF THEM.
WE ARE RECEPTIVE TO THE FEELINGS OF RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF LA QUINTA AND INDIO.
IN REGARDS TO MR. REECEY, THE FIRST GENTLEMAN ON THE PUBLIC COMMENT, HE SAYS THAT THE PROPERTY DOESN'T FIT IN.
I REALLY NEED TO GO BACK TO THE FIVE YEARS THE CITY OF INDIO WORKED ON THIS GENERAL PLAN, AND THIS WAS DESIGNATED FOR A REASON, SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT DOES FIT IN TO WHAT'S ALREADY GOING ON WITH THE COMMERCIAL IN THE AREA.
SO I BELIEVE WE'VE DONE THE RIGHT MOVE, AND I THINK THE CITY HAS BEEN EXTREMELY HELPFUL, STAFF AS WELL AS THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS IN GUIDING US DOWN A BETTER PROJECT.
S NICE CONVERSATION WITH MR. GOFF ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO.
HE WAS CONCERNED -- NOT CONCERNED.
HE WAS ASKING IF WE WERE GOING TO BRING WATER ACROSS OUR PROPERTY BECAUSE I'M SURE THEY WOULD LIKE TO GET ON A MIERPT THERE.
I SAID, YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING THAT AS PART OF OUR IMPROVEMENTS, THE IMPROVEMENTS TO AVENUE 50.
SO I DIDN'T KNOW THAT HE WAS== OUR PROJECT.
WE DO HAVE QUITE A BIT OF SPACE BETWEEN HIS RESIDENCE AND OUR FIRST HOUSE.
I THINK THERE'S A 41-FOOT WIDE ROADWAY.
WE HAVE PARKWAY OF AT LEAST 10 TO 15 FEET BEFORE THAT ANDY THEN ANOTHER SETBACK TO THE UNITS.
SO THIZ WE'VE DONE A GOOD JOB OF PROTECTING HIS PROPERTY.
AND THE THIRD PERSON TO SPEAK IS SANDRA BLOCK.
I BELIEVE SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE PROPERTY JUST EAST OF MR. PAUL GOFF'S WHICH HAS I THINK IT'S BEEN DESCRIBED EARLIER AS A RENTAL PROPERTY FOR EVENTS.
I KNOW ONE THING, I'VE DONE MY RESEARCH LIKE EVERYONE ELSE HAS, IF YOU LOOK UP THAT PROPERTY, IT STATES -- FIRST OF ALL, IT'S IN THE CITY OF LA QUINTA.
AND SECOND OF ALL, IT CAN HAVE EVENTS UP TO 300 PEOPLE.
THAT'S INTERESTING TO ME THAT WE'RE NOT FITTING IN WITH THE SURROUNDINGS BUT
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THERE'S A, I GUESS WE'LL CALL IT AN ESTATE THERE THAT HAS EVENTS UP TO 300 PEOPLE, WHICH IS -- I DON'T REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.I JUST FIND IT INTERESTING THAT WE'RE BEING ADDRESSED.
SO THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAD AND COMMENTS.
TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH, I'VE RECEIVED A LOT OF NICE COMMENTS FROM A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY AROUND THIS AREA, AND I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THEM FROM BOTH SIDES.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LETTING ME SPEAK ON THOSE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT BEFORE WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME FROM ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER CEJA.
WITH YOUR PROPOSED SUBDIVISION, YOU HAVE A LOT OF OPEN SPACE AND RECREATIONAL AMENITIES FOR THOSE RESIDENTS, WHICH I THINK IS GREAT.
SO I'M ASSUMING THERE'S AN HOA THAT'S SET UP FOR THESE RESIDENTS TO MAINTAIN THOSE PROPERTIES?
THERE WILL BE AN HOA FOR THE PROPERTY.
I ASSUME A MASTER ONE FOR 50 AND INTERNAL FOR -- A MASTER FOR THE PARK AREAS, POOL AREAS, AND ALSO FOR THE COMMON SPACE.
SO THERE WILL DEFINITELY BE AN HOA.
AND REMEMBER THIS IS NOT A GATED COMMUNITY.
>> THERE WILL BE NO GATES ON THIS.
AND THAT WAS ALSO PER REQUEST OF CITY, AND THAT'S THE WAY WE'RE GOING TO DO IT.
AS PART OF HAVING THE NATURE WAY YOU WOULD HAVE CC&RS.
HAS THERE BEEN ANY THOUGHT ABOUT WRITING INTO THOSE CC&RS LIMITING OR PROHIBITING RENTALS IN THOSE PROPERTIES?
>> YOU KNOW, THE GOAL HERE IS NOT TO HAVE SHORT-TERM RENTALS, SO I MEAN THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DISCUSSED BY THE DEVELOPER.
THE DEVELOPER IS ON THE LINE HERE IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, DR. DAVID MORRIS, BUT THAT IS NOT HIS DESIGN TO DO THAT OUT HERE.
>> YEAH, I THINK SOME ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK MAYBE FROM THE DEVELOPER, THEN, IF THEY CONTEMPLATE SHORT-TERM RENTALS OR CONTEMPLATED A PROCEED HAD YOU BEEN ITION ON THEM.
WE REALLY WEREN'T GIVING CONSIDERATION TO THE SHORTS-TERM REBILITIES.
WE WERE LOOK LIKE AT THIS MORE FOR YOUNG FAMILIES, FIRST-TIME HOME BUYERS TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE AN AFFORDABLE PRODUCT.
>> SO TO FOLLOW UP ON COMMISSIONER CEJA'S QUESTION, SO IS IT SOMETHING YOU WOULD CONSIDER TO RESTRICT TO NOT ALLOW SHORT-TERM RENTALS OR TO LIMIT HOW MANY UNITS COULD BE SHORT TERP RENTALS OR HOW MANY TIMES IT COULD BE DONE? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS WOULD EVEN CONSIDER OR REALLY DON'T WANT TO GO IN THAT DIRECTION?
THE OVERALL INTENT OF THE CROSSINGS, AGAIN WITH THE ALL THE YOUTH IN THE CITY OF INDIO, WAS TO CAPTURE THE NEED FOR ATTAINABLE HOUSING, AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE COULD BE OPEN TO LOOKING AT A CERTAIN PORTION OF BEING SHORT-TERM RENTALS, BUT AGAIN, THE OVERALL SENTIMENT HERE WAS DESIGNED TO PROVIDE A GOOD VALUE PRODUCT FOR FAMILIES IN INDIO.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME? NO? OKAY.
>> ACTUALLY, THIS IS -- I KNOW FROM ONE OF THE WRITTEN STATEMENTS THEY WERE ASKING ABOUT TRAFFIC, A RELATED EXCEPT A TRAFFIC STUDY WAS PREPARED FOR THIS PROJECT.
WE ANALYZED THREE OFF-SITE INTERSECTIONS AND ALSO THE TWO PROJECT DRIVEWAYS, SO IT DOESN'T SHOW ANY OFF-SITE IMPACT.
AND THEN THE PROJECT IS JUST GOING TO BE WIDENING THE HALF SECTION OF THIS ROADWAY, SO THAT'LL PROVIDE THE WIDENING FOR THAT.
YEAH, SO WE DON'T SEE ANY ISSUE WITH TRAFFIC.
I WANT TO MAKE THAT STATEMENT.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? NO? OKAY.
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I'D LIKE TO INVITE OUR COMMISSIONERS TO BEGIN DELIBERATION.
EVERYBODY QUIET BECAUSE WE'RE TIRED? NO COMMENT?
LIKE THAT IT HAS THE CONNECTABILITY TO THE SHOPPING CENTER TO THE WEST.
IT MEETS THE GENERAL PLAN DENSITY REQUIREMENTS.
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THAT GAP BETWEEN THE DESERT RIVER ESTATES AND THE COMMERCIAL CENTERS.>> I WOULD AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER YSIANO AS WELL.
I JUST HAVE A QUESTION, I DON'T KNOW -- MAYBE STAFF CAN ANSWER THIS.
IS THERE GOING TO BE ANY -- IS COUNCIL GOING TO BE MEETING TO DISCUSS SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN THE FUTURE? MAYBE PERHAPS AT THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING?
>> DIRECT SNYDER, THE COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER DID SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING ABOUT POTENTIAL, BRINGING FORWARD POTENTIAL MODIFICATIONS TO CITY'S SHORT-TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE.
I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHEN THAT MAY OCCUR.
THERE MAY BE A FOLLOW-UP STUDY SESSION THAT MAY OCCUR BEFORE ACTUAL CONSIDERATION BY COUNCIL AND WE CAN CERTAINLY MAKE THE PLANNING COMMISSION AWARE OF THAT IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MATTER HEIR ABOUT WHEN THAT MIGHT OCCUR SO YOU CAN EITHER WHACH WATCH AND/OR APRIL BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE IS INTEREST ON THE PART OF THE CITY MANAGER ALONG WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT INTO LOOKING AT SOME MODIFICATIONS TO CURRENT REGULATIONS.
>> I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ALSO ADD I REALLY LIKE THE DESIGN.
I THINK IT GHIFS GIVES A FRESH MEW LOOK TO THAT PART OF THE CITY.
IT REMINDS ME A LOT OF THE CONDOS OR HOMES OUT IN PALM SPRING THAT HAS THAT MOD LOOK.
>> YEAH, I WOULD AGREE WITH MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS ON THIS ONE.
YOU KNOW, I LIKE THE LAND USE PLAN QUITE A BIT.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THE DEVELOPER AND THE CITRUS ON OWNER BEING ABLE TO EXPHEET COORDINATE SOME PEDESTRIAN ACCESS SO THAT BOTH SITES ARE CONNECTED, AND I REALLY PRESSURE THE ATTEMPT TO EXECUTE THE GENERAL PLAN AS WE DISCUSS NEIGHBORHOODS.
ONE OF THE BIG THINGS IN THE GENERAL PLAN, PARTICULARLY THE ECONOMICKE H.DEVELOPMENT H.DEVELOPMENT GOALS, STATE -- -- THAT WE REALLY NEED TO MAKE AN ATTEMPT TO== OBTAIN MIDDLE HOUSING.
I THINK, AS SOME OF OUR PARTICIPANTS STATED TODAY, THE COACHELLA VALLEY HAS DONE A FANTASTIC JOB AT DEVELOPING DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY HOMES BEHIND GATES AND ON GOLF COURSES, BUT WHAT WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF IS THESE DUPLEX WEBS FOURPLEXES, UNGATED COMMUNITIES THAT ARE ATTAINABLE REALLY FOR EVERYONE ELSE.
AND SO GIVEN ITS PROXIMITY TO THE EXISTING COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, THERE ARE CONSIDERATIONS FOR SITE ACCESS AND MIXING VARIOUS HOUSING TYPES ON THIS PROPERTY.
IT'S SOMETHING I CAN GET BEHIND AND REALLY SUPPORT.
I'M HOPING THAT THE WITH GENERAL PLAN LANGUAGE THAT WE DO HAVE REGARDING NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGN THAT WE DO SEE MORE PLANS LIKE THIS.
I THINK THERE COULD BE SOME REAL CONSIDERATION GIVEN SOME CONCERNS OVER SHORT-TERM RENTALS PROXIMITY TO COACHELLA FEST.
IF WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT ATTAINABLE HOWKS HERE, PARTICULARLY FOR EXISTING AND EVEN FUTURE RESIDENTS,== I THINK A LIMITATION OR A PROHIBITION BEING WRITTEN INTO THE C EXPRVMENTRS HERE LIMITING SHORT-TERM RENTALS ON THIS PROPERTY IS THE WAY TO GO.
AND THEN IN REGARDS TO THE AVENUE 50 AND ITS BOULEVARD APPEARANCE AND ITS ULTIMATE DESIGN AND BUILD-OUT, I THINK THERE'S STILL SOME PLANNING TO BE DOWN THE CITY'S END.
WE DO CALL IT OUT IN THE GENERAL PLAN FOR ESSENTIALLY FIVE LANES.
YOU'VE GOT TWO LANES IN EACH DIRECTION WITH A CENTER MEDIAN.
THE GENERAL PLAN ALSO CALL IT OUT FOR A PROTECTED BIKE LANE.
SO I THINK THIS STREET WILL DEVELOP TO BE SOMETHING SPECIAL, AND WITH EACH NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT COMES IN, IT HELPS TO ULTIMATELY GET TO THAT ULTIMATELY BUILD-OUT FOR AVENUE 50.
I LIKE THE DEVELOPMENT QUITE A BIT PARTICULARLY BECAUSE OF ITS MIX OF HOUSING AND ITS ACCESS TO NEARBY CENTER.
>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER CEJA.
I AGREE WITH MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.
I DO THINK THAT BASED ON PROXIMITY OF THE SHOPPING CENTER, THAT THIS USE IS A GOOD USE FOR THE PROPERTY.
I'VE ALWAYS BEEN CONCERNED THAT WE DID NOT HAVE A VARIETY OF HOUSING STOCK IN THE CITY.
YOU HAD SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND YOU HAD APARTMENTS, AND THERE WAS NO TOWNHOUSES OR NICER DUPLEXES OR THINGS WHERE YOU COULD ACTUALLY BEGIN OWNERSHIP AS YOU'RE A YOUNG FAMILY STARTING OUT, SO I REALLY LIKE THAT.
I LOVE THE FACT THAT IT'S NOT GHAITD.
I LOVE THE FACT OF ALL THE WALKABILITY, ALL THE WORK THAT WAS DONE, THE HOA.
I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A BEAUTIFUL ADDITION TO THE CITY.
I AM ALSO VERY CONCERNED WITH THE SHORT-TERM RENTALS BECAUSE I DO AGREE IT COULD DEFINITELY BECOME AN INVESTOR-DRIVEN PRODUCT VERSUS IT DOING WHAT WE'RE SAYING ITS JOB IS, WHICH IS TO ALLOW FOR ENTRY LEVEL HOMES.
SO MY QUESTION, AND MAYBE THIS IS TO STAFF, AS PART OF OUR APPROVAL COULD WE MAKE
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THAT== CONDITION, THAT EITHER THEY LIMIT OR THEY COMPLETELY ELIMINATE SHORT-TERM RENTALS BASED ON THE CC&RS OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S NOT IN OUR PURVIEW? AND MAYBE THIS IS FOR ZACH.MY SHORT ANSWER WOULD BE THIS IS FOR ZACH.
>> I NOTE THAT CONDITION 13 OF WHAT I BELIEVE IS THE SECTION, IN SECTION 3 OF RESOLUTION 1966 BEFORE YOU REQUIRES THE APPLICANT TO SUBMIT TWO CC&RS IN A FORM ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY.
THE CC&RS THEMSELVES CAN ADDRESS THE POTENTIAL RESTRICTIONS ON SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
AT THIS MOMENT WITHOUT FURTHER RESEARCH I'M NOT SURE THE EXTENT TO WHICH THE CITY CAN REQUIRE THOSE CC&RS TO RESTRICT OR PROHIBIT SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
>> AND ALSO IF I MAY, MADAME CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG -- SO IF THE NEW ORDINANCE THAT MR. SNYDER TALKED ABOUT THAT IT WILL GO BEFORE THE COUNCIL AND THEY'RE WORKING ON IT, THE CC EXPRVMENT IS SUPPOSED TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT.
IF THAT PUTS MORE LIMITATION AGAIN THERE IS SOME CITY ORDINANCE OR KEY THAT IT COULD BE APPLIED.
REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THERE IS AN H OPERATIVEA WITH CC&RS OR NOT THE HOMEOWNERS TO HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE CITIES EENDERS REGULATE SHORT-TERM RENTALS AS IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE AMENDED BY FUTURE COUNCIL ACTION.
THAT WOULD BE -- THEY COULD DO MORE WITHIN THE CC&RS BUT THEY HAVE TO AT LEAST FOLLOW THE CITY'S POLICY.
>> SO WE COULD MAKE THE REQUEST.
BUT IT MAY NOT BE BINDING IS WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME IF WE WERE TO MAKE A REQUEST TO LIMIT OR ELIMINATE SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
BECAUSE IT'S ANOTHER SECTION OF CITY CODE THAT IS NON-LAND USE RELATED, I THINK WHAT THE ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY SAID IS CORRECT.
ONE POTENTIAL SUGGESTION FOR THE COMMISSION TO CONSIDER IS PERHAPS TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ONLY FOR THE PURPOSES OF HEARING FROM THE APPLICANT BASED ON YOUR DISCUSSION TO SEE IF HE WOULD BE WILLING TO MAKE THAT COMMITMENT.
HE SOUNDED LIKE HE MIGHT BE INTERESTED, SO THAT MAY BE SOMETHING YOU WANT TO CONSIDER TO GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO TO RESPOND TO YOUR CONCERNS THAT YOU AND THE COMMISSION HAVE EXPRESSED OVER THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL.
COMMISSIONERS OKAY WITH REOPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING? YEAH? OKAY.
SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT ABOUT THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL DILEMMA OR QUESTION.
>> SO I MEAN WHAT WE SPOKE ABOUT EARLIER IS THE INTENT OF PROJECT, RIGHT? AND I THINK THAT WE ARE HAPPY TO FOLLOW ANY OF THE CITY GUIDANCE AND AS WELL, YOU KNOW, WE COULD CERTAINLY LOOK AT RESTRICTIONS OR LIMITED USE FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
I MEAN, THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL POOL WAS NOT THE PRIMARY REASON FOR DOING THIS SUBDIVISION.
IT'S FOR, AGAIN TO PROVIDE ATTAINABLE HOUSING FOR INDIO RESIDENTS.
SO WE ARE DEFINITELY OPEN TO HAVE FURTHER DIALOGUE ON THAT FOR SURE.
>> YOU'RE STILL MUTE, MADAME CHAIRPERSON.
CHAIR, WOULD YOU MIND CALLING IN? MAYBE THAT WOULD HELP.
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>> I'LL ADMIT YOU AS SOON AS I SEE YOU.
OF IT HAS JUST MENTIONED THAT IT MIGHT BE EASIER IF YOU EXIT AND REJOIN IF THE AUDIO ISN'T WORKING ON YOUR PHONE EITHER.
I'VE JUST ADMITTED YOU, CHAIRPERSON.
I AM CHALLENGED TODAY WITH ELECTRONICS.
NOW YOU FORGOT WHAT I WAGS GOING TO ASK YOU.
SO DR. MORRIS, BASED ON YOUR COMMENTS AND THE FACT THAT WE ALL SEEM TO BE IN AGREEMENT THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE A PLACE FOR FAMILIES TO LIVE AND NOTE A SHORT-TERM RENTAL AND YOU ARE INTERESTED IN MAYBE DISCUSSING THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE, SO I'M NOT SURE HOW WE CAN DO THAT AND APPROVE EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED TO APPROVE TODAY.
SO MAYBE THAT'S A QUESTION FOR STAFF OR -- >> CHAIR, THIS IS DIRECTOR SNYDER.
I THINK THE QUESTION FOR DR. MORRIS, AS A UNDERSTANDING IT FROM YOU AND PERHAPS THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS, IS WOULD MR. MORRIS BE WILLING TO COMMIT ON THE RECORD TO NOT HAVING SHORT-TERM RENTALS, OPTION ONE.
OPTION TWO, WOULD DR. MORRIS BE WILLING TO COMMIT ON THE RECORD TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS OR DOES H THREE IS TO PURSUE SHORT-TERM RENTAL USAGE AT THE PROPERTY CONSISTENT WITH WHATEVER CITY REGULATIONS ARE IN EFFECT WITHOUT ANY LIMITATIONS? AND I THINK THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THREE OPTIONS THAT EXIST AND PERHAPS DR. MORRIS COULD RESPOND TO THOSE OPTIONS IF THAT WOULD HELP THE CONVERSATION.
SO THE CURRENT CITY RULES HAVE NO RESTRICTIONS, IS THAT CORRECT?
>> THE CURRENT CITY RULES ALLOW SHORT-TERM RENTALS, DR. MORRIS.
THERE ARE RESTRICTIONS ON HOW THEY ARE CONDUCTED, BUT WE DO NOT SPECIFICALLY LIMIT THE NUMBER, SO I THINK THE QUESTION, THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS PUTTING TO YOU IS ARE YOU WILLING TO OUTRIGHT PROHIBIT OR PUT A LIMITED NUMBER OF SHORT-TERM
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RENTALS IN YOUR PROJECT OR DO YOU JUST WANT TO FOLLOW WHAT REGULATIONS ARE IN EFFECT WITHOUT ANY NUMBER OF LIMITATIONS.I WOULDN'T WANT TO SAY -- I GUESS AT THIS POINT I WOULDN'T WANT TO SAY ZERO SHORT-TERM, BUT LIKE I SAID, WE ARE WILLING TO OBVIOUSLY FOLLOW CITY GUIDELINE OR HAVE AN AGREED UPON NUMBER OF UNITS THAT COULD BE DESIGNATED FOR SHORT-TERM, BUT AGAIN, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DEFINITELY DISCUSS FOR SURE, YES.
>> AND THEN I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION THAT THE SPECIFIC PLAN THAT THE COMMISSION IS REVIEWING TONIGHT IS APPROVING DOES NOT ALLOW COMMERCIAL USES, SO IT CAN'T BE A COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISE THAT IS RUNNING FIVE HOMES OR FIVE DUPLEXES OR FIVE FOURPLEX ENTERPRISE.
>> I WAS TRYING TO CLARIFY THAT THE SPECIFIC PLAN DOES NOT ALLOW THAT.
>> BUT YOU COULD HAVE 30, 40, 50 PERCENT OF OWNERS OF THOSE UNITS, AS LONG AS THEY'RE NOT AFFILIATED WITH EACH OTHER, THEY COULD TURN HALF THE SITE INTO SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
I MEAN, IT'S A POSSIBILITY OF IT HAPPENING, CORRECT?
COMMISSIONER CEJA, DO YOU -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER CITIES DO.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S USUALLY NO MORE THAN 20%, IF THERE'S A NUMBER, IF THERE'S ANYTHING BECAUSE IF WE DON'T PUT THIS IN THIS TIME ONCE WE MAKE THE APPROVAL, IT'S I THINK THAT'S LIMITS OUR ABILITY TO MAKE ANY ANY CHANGES GOES AWAY, CORRECT?
>> I THINK EVERY CITY IS PROOCHTION SHORT-TERM RENTALS DIFFERENTLY AND IT'S CONTINUAL BEING REEVALUATED IN OUR RESORT TOWNS, WHETHER IT'S PALM DESERT OR ANAHEIM OR NOW INDIO.
FOR THIS PROPOSAL I THINK AGAIN WHAT REALLY SELLS ME ON THIS IS THAT IT'S A MIL HOUSING PROJECT THAT'S READY FOR BUYERS AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S ABLE TO BE MAINTAINED RATHER THAN THE INVESTORS WHO WANT TO COME IN AND START SNATCHING UP HOUSES THAT THEY CAN TURN INTO A COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISE.
I HEAR SOME WILLINGNESS FROM THE DOCTOR HERE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S REALLY NOT THE INTENT OF THIS.
I THINK WE CAN KIND OF HAVE A GO RECOMMENDATION THAT IT BE WRITTEN INTO IF CC&RS AND SEE IF IT HOLD WATER ONCE THEY START LOOKING INTO IT AT A LATER TIME BECAUSE THE ISSUE TO REVIEW THE CC&RS IS SEVERAL MONTHS OUT.
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME BACK, TO GO CITY COUNCIL STILL, RECORD THE FINAL MAP, GET IMPROVEMENT PLANS IN, REVIEW THE CC&RS AT THAT POINT, SO I THINK WE HAVE A GOOD CHANCE TO PUT IT INTO A CONDITION NOW AND THEN ALLOW THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE OR EVEN THE CITY COUNCIL TO WEIGH IN ON THIS ONE.
>> I CAN MAKE ONE POINT AS WELL JUST TO FRAME THIS.
THE STAGE WE'RE AT NOW WOULD BE THE REQUESTED ACTION, AND THE ROLE OF THE COMMISSION IS OF THE RECOMMENDING BODY, SO THIS WILL BE GOING TO THE COUNCIL PENDING THAT RECOMMENDATION.
>> I WAS GOING TO ADD ACTUALLY THE ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY KIND OF STOLE MY THUNDER, BUT YOU COULD RECOMMEND TO COUNCIL AS PART OF THEIR FINAL DECISION MAKING THAT THEY DIRECT THAT THE CC&RS REFLECT A LIMITATION ON SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND THAT DR. MORTH MIGHT WANT TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION WITH YOU, THE COMMISSION NOW, OH, FOR EXAMPLE, IF DR. MORRIS I'M JUST MAKING THIS UP AS AN EXAMPLE, SAID THAT WE WOULD BE WILLING TO IT LIMIT TO IT NO MORE THAN 10% OF THE UNITS, COULD BY SHORT-TERM RENTALS, THEN THAT'S SOMETHING HE COULD COMMIT TO NOW AND THAT COULD GO FORWARD WITH THE COUNCIL.
ULTIMATELY THE COUNCIL COULD CONSIDER A RECOMMENDATION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION WITHOUT ANY SPECIFIC NUMBER OR PERCENTAG TENOR OF THE RECOMMENDATION.
I WOULD NOTE THAT BECAUSE IT WAS DISCUSSED AT THE CLASS COUNCIL MEETING THAT THE SHORT-TERM REGULATION CHANGES WILL LIKELY REDUCE THE PARTY HOUSE EFFECT THAT HAS BEEN A MAJOR CONCERN WHERE PROPERTIES ARE LITERAL RENTED OUT AS PARTY HOUSES, AND I THINK THERE WILL BE TIGHTENING AND AND MORE NEXT ON ON HOME SHARE.
SO THE REGULATORY ENVIRONMENT FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN THE CITY OF INDIO COULD CHANGE AND THAT PARTY ENVIRONMENT SITUATION COULD BE CURTAILED OR AT LEAST
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SEVERELY RESTRICTED.>> THIS IS KEITH CHRISTIANSEN, IF I MAY.
I'M JUST LISTENING TO THE TALK GOING ON AND DR. MORRIS, HE'S COME HERE WITH A PROJECT, WITH ATTAINABLE HOUSING.
HE'S REALLY TRYING TO DO SOMETHING NEW OUT IN THE DESERT.
I CAN TELL YOU THIS SHORT-TERM RENTAL THING HASN'T EVEN ENTERED HIS MIND, AND MY OPINION WOULD BE TO FOLLOW CITY CODE AND LET THAT BE THE GOVERNING BODY OUT THERE.
AND IF THERE ARE SOME CHANGES DOWN THE LINE AT PLANNING, AT CITY COUNCIL, PERHAPS THAT CAN BE DISCUSSED.
LIKE COMMISSIONER CEJA MENTIONED, THIS IS GOING TO GO INTO FINAL MAP, CC&RS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE APPROVED.
THERE'S OTHER BITES OF THE APPLE.
AND DR. MORRIS IS IN A POSITION TONIGHT WHERE THIS IS SOMETHING HE DIDN'T EVAN HAVE ON HIS PLATE, AND -- EVEN HAVE ON HIS PLATE, AND I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE PRUDENT TO LET HIM PROCEED WITH A PROJECT THAT'S HE' WORKED MONTHS WITH THE CITY TO DEVELOP AND TRY TO DO THE RIGHT WAY, AND IF THIS IS TO BE DISCUSSED AT A LATER TIME, MAYBE IT'S DISCUSSED AT CITY COUNCIL OR MAYBE IT'S CUSSED WITH CITY ATTORNEY AND CC&RS AT THAT POINT IN TIME.
I JUST THINK -- I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN WITH THE CITY OF INDIO.
THEY ONLY HAVE THE LARGEST FESTIVAL IN THE WORLD THAT'S I'M SURE A PRETTY GOOD MONEY MAKER NOR THE CITY AS WELL.
THIS JUST HAPPENS TO BE AROUND THE GENERAL LOCATION AND THAT HASN'T ENTERED DR. MORRIS' MIND.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME? OKAY.
I'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AGAIN AND WE CAN GO BACK TO DELIBERATING.
AND I WANT TO APOLOGIZE FOR ALL MY TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES.
ALL THESE MONTHS I HAVEN'T HAD ANY AND ALL OF A SUDDEN I JUST HAD A WHOLE BUNCH TODAY.
SO WE CAN GO AHEAD AND JUST DISCUSS.
ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS REGARDING THE SHORT-TERM RENTALS OR ANYTHING ELSE AT THIS TIME?
>> I THINK I HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW WE CAN AT LEAST INCLUDE AS PART OF OUR RESOLUTION AS A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER.
SO DO YOU WANT TO PRESENT US WITH YOUR IDEA.
>> I'LL RECOMMEND THAT WE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 1964 RECOMMENDING THE CITY COUNCIL PER THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT, MITIGATION, NEGATIVE DECLARATION, MITTTATIO MONITORING REPORT FOR THE CROSSINGS PROJECT.
CAN I HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
I HEARD TWO SECONDS, ONE FROM VICE CHAIRPERSON LOPEZ AND YSIANO.
>> WE HAVE A FIRST AND A SECOND.
NOW CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.
>> I'LL RECOMMEND THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADOPT RESOLUTION 1965 RECOMMENDING THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE CROSSINGS SPECIFIC PLAN.
>> I WILL SECOND THAT AS WELL.
>> I'LL RECOMMEND THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADOPT RESOLUTION 1966 RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE TENTATIVE TRACT MAP AND TO GIVE CONSIDERATION EITHER ON A PROHIBITION OR LIMITATION TO SHORT-TERM RENTALS WITHIN THE PROPERTY AND HAVE THAT BE WRITTEN INTO THE CC&RS.
WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD THE DESIGN REVIEW ON THIS PROJECT.
>> DO WE NEED A BREAK OR IS EVERYBODY OKAY? EVERYBODY'S OKAY? ALL RIGHT.
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CAN'T SAY I DIDN'T OFFER.WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO ITEM 8.3 OASIS AND BLISS MIXED USE PROJECT.
[8.3 Oasis and Bliss (Mixed-Use Project):]
CAN WE HAVE A STAFF REPORT PLEASE.MADAME CHAIR, GIVE ME ONE MOMENT PLEASE.
LET ME KNOW IF YOU SEE MY SCREEN.
MADAME CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
MY NAME IS NIKKI GOAMGZ ASSISTANT PLANNER AND BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS THE OASIS AND BLISS MIXED USE PROJECT.
IT IS A DESIGN REVIEW 20-08-477.
IT IS COMPRISED OF A TOTAL 1.4-ACRE LOT.
IT'S A COMBINATION OF THE VACANT LOT RIGHT HERE DIRECTLY AT THE CORNER OF BLISS AND OASIS AND AN EXISTING PUBLIC PARKING STRUCTURE.
IT IS SEPARATED BY AN EXISTING ALLEYWAY.
IT IS ZONED UNDER THE DOWNTOWN SPECIFIC PLAN AS DOWNTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD WITH A RETAIL READY OVERLAY.
LET ME -- I WAS LOOKING AT THE OTHER SCREEN.
LET ME GO BACK TO THE LOCATION.
THE NORTHWEST CORRIDOR OF OASIS STREET AND BLISS AVENUE, AND IT IS ACTUALLY COMPRISED OF FOUR PARCELS.
IT IS THE VACANT LOT HERE IMMEDIATELY AT THE CORNER OF OASIS AND BLISS AND WITH AN EXISTING PARKING LOT, A PUBLIC PARKING LOT.
IT IS ZONED, AS A DOWNTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD WITH A RETAIL READY OVERLAY WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN SPECIFIC PLAN AND IT'S ALSO DESIGNATED AS DOWNTOWN DESIGNATION UNDER THE GENERAL PLAN.
SO THE SITE PLAN, AND I BELIEVE THIS PROJECT CAN BE AS A PROJECT CONSULTATION A FEW MONTHS AGO, AND THEY WANT TO RESISTANT THROUGH ONE MORE TIME.
SO THE SITE PLAN IS -- CONSISTS OF THE PARKING LOT IN THE BACK AND IT'S ACTUALLY A REDESIGN TO ALLOW MORE PARKING SPACES.
THE BUILDING ABUTS, THE FRONTAGE OF THIS WHOLE BUILDING, WHICH IS ON OASIS AS WELL AS BLISS, AND RIGHT ON BLISS IT'S KIND OF THIS PIVOTAL SECTION WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF OUTDOOR AREA AND OUTDOOR SEATING TO HAVE THAT ACCESSIBILITY OF PED STROONT AMENITIES THAT THIS PROPOSED BUILDING PROVIDE.
THERE'S A POOL AREA IN THE BACK THAT'S ACCESSED BY THE TENANTS IN THIS PART OF AMENITIES THAT'S BEING PROVIDED IN THIS DEVELOPMENT.
THE FRONTAGE OF THE PROPERTY HAS MULTIPLE ENTRANCES BOTH TO THE COMMERCIAL INTO THE MAIN BUILDING AND ACCESS BY TENANTS TO THE UPPER FLOORS, AND I'LL SHOW YOU THAT IN THE ELEVATIONS HERE AFTER -- --==.
SO THE FLOOR PLAN, I'LL GO THROUGH THE FLOOR PLAN WITH YOU FLOOR BY FLOOR TO KIND OF SHOWCASE THE TYPES OF UNITS THAT'S BEING PROPOSED.
SO THE BLUE AREA ARE THOSE LIVE AND WORK SPACES LEASED OF COMMERCIAL USES THAT WILL BE INTEGRATED AT THE GROUND FLOOR UNIT.
AND THAT WILL BE THROUGHOUT OASIS STREET AND ON BLISS.
AND THEN RIGHT AT THE CORNER OF BLISS AND OASIS IS THE ANCHOR RESTAURANT, AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THIS IS EARMARKED NOR THAT USE, HOWEVER, OTHER APPROVED COMMERCIAL USES MAY ALSO GO INTO THAT CORNER.
SO RIGHT KIND OF IN THE REAR PORTION OF THE BUILDING IS WHERE THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS WILL BE LOCATED, AND RIGHT AT THE GROUND FLOOR THERE WILL BE A STUDIO, MIX OF STUDIO AND ONE BEDROOM APARTMENT UNITS.
AND THE SECOND FLOOR IS OBVIOUSLY ALL OF IT WILL BE A COMBINATION OF ALL THE UNITS THAT WILL BE PROVIDED, WHICH I ONE BEDROOM AND TWO
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BEDROOMS, AND I KIND OF HIGHLIGHTED WHERE THOSE WILL BE LOCATED AT.SIMILARLY, THIRD FLOOR WILL BE JUST A CONFIGURATION THE SAME CONFIGURATION AS THE SECOND FLOOR.
AND ON THE FOURTH FLOOR SIMILAR BUT WITH A LITTLE TYPE OF TENANT AMENITIES THAT WILL INCLUDE A TUB, A GYM AND AN OPEN SPACE THAT COULD BE SHARED AMONG THE TENANTS THAT WILL OCCUPY IT.
THIS SHOWS THE MEDICAL EQUIPMENT THAT WILL BE PROPOSED AND, OF COURSE, IT'S ALWAYS CONDITIONED TO ENSURE THAT THESE MECHANICAL UNITS WILL NOT BE SEEN FROM CITY STREETS OR FROM THE BUILDINGS NEARBY.
AND THE ELEVATIONS, THIS IS THE EAST ELEVATION WILL BE MAIN FRONTAGE WHICH IS ALONG OASIS STREET, AND THIS IS WHERE YOU'LL SEE ALL THE DIFFERENT BUILDING HEIGHTS, ARE TICK LAITIONZ OF ALL THE WINDOWS, THE ENTRANCES, THE MAIN ENTRANCE AND SIMILARLY== WITH BLISS AVENUE, WHICH ALSO HAS THAT DIFFERENT HEIGHTS THAT'S REQUIRED UNDER THE DOWNTOWN SPECIFIC PLAN.
AND WHO I HAVE DONE IT JUSTICE, BUT THIS IS -- HOW DO YOU SAY? -- THIS IS AN ELECTRONIC VERSION OF THE PALATE THAT'LL BE PROPOSED, AND IT WILL BE VERY LIGHT-TONED, SOMEWHAT MODERN TYPE OF PALETTE, AND OBVIOUSLY THEY ARE GOING TO INCORPORATE THE ENGINEERED WOOD SIDING, WHICH WILL TOLERATE THE HEAT AND THEN THE METAL PANELS THAT MIMIC A WOOD TYPE PANEL LOOK.
AND YOU WILL SEE ALONG THE EXISTING ALLEY.
AND THIS IS WHERE THE TENANTS ENTER THROUGH THE BACK AREA IN THE POOL AND THE OUTDOOR SEATING WILL BE ALONG THIS ELEVATION AS WELL.
THE NORTH ELEVATION IS WHERE THE BUILDING IS ABUTTING AN EXISTING COMMERCIAL BUILDING, AND IT WILL HAVE THIS LITTLE PASSAGEWAY THAT WILL HAVE A PEDESTRIAN ACCESS FROM OASIS BACK TO THE BACK, EXISTING ALLEY.
AND THEN ALSO INCORPORATING KIND OF A SAMPLE OF WHAT THESE WOOD TYPE SIDING WOULD LOOK LIKE ON THE BUILDING AND ALSO THE ARCHITECT HAS PROVIDED THE TYPE OF RAILING, EXAMPLE OF RAILING THAT YOU SEE ALONG ALL THE BALCONIES FROM FIRST TO THE FOURTH FLOOR, AND THAT WILL BE PAVED ACCORDINGLY TO MATCH THE BUILDING ITSELF.
AND THESE ARE THE ELEVATIONS RIGHT HERE AT THE TOP RIGHT CORNER IS ALONG OASIS STREET.
THIS IS ALONG KING STREET WHERE THERE'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER ACCESS TO THE MAIN PARKING LOT.
AND THEN THIS WILL BE DOWN HERE IS FROM BLISS AVENUE.
ALSO JUST A TOP SHOT OF KIND OF SHOWCASING THE DIFFERENT POP-OUTS AND DETAILS OF THE BUILDING FROM DIFFERENT POINTS OF VIEW HERE.
AND THEN A LITTLE BIT OF THE LANDSCAPING ON WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE AS WELL.
AND THEN THE LANDSCAPING, THE TREES AND SHRUBS AND AMONG THOSE IS BEING PROPOSED ARE THE CALIFORNIA PALMS, ARIZONA MESQUITE AND PALO VERDE AND IT INCLUDES THE RED BOX AND MEXICAN BIRD OF PARADISE AND OCOTILLO.
AND SO STAFF RECOMMENDS TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 19.57, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO CONDITIONALLY APPROVE DESIGN REVIEW 20-08-47 FOR THE ARCHITECTURE SITE PLAN CIRCULATION PARKING AND LANDSCAPE FOR A MIXED USE PROJECT ASSISTING OF 70 APARTMENT IEWPTS GROUND FLOOR EXPHECIAL LEASABLE SPACES TOTALING 72,000 SQUARE FEET WITH REDESIGNED PARKING LOT ON AN APPROXIMATELY 1.4-ACRE SITE SUBJECT TO THE FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS OF THE APPROVAL AND DETERMINING THAT THE PROJECT IS EXEMPT FROM CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT.
I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTION.
AND I BELIEVE THE ARCHITECT IS ALSO AVAILABLE FOR MAYBE A PRESENTATION AND FOR YOUR QUESTIONS TOON==.
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DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF AT THIS TIME? NO ONE? I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE CAN HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME.
I'M GOING TO DO THAT THING WHERE I TAKE CONTROL OF THE SCREEN AGAIN, IF THAT IS -- IF THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO.
AND THEN CAN YOU SEE THE MODEL?
AND I'M SAYING SHARE, PRESUME.
COULD BE APPLICATION WINDOW? YEAH, THERE IT IS.
>> DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER SCREEN?
WHERE DID THE SKETCH GO? IT'S BEEN OPEN FOR THREE AND A HALF HOURS.
IS JUST TO GO OVER THINGS REAL QUICKLY, YOU ALL SAW THIS BACK IN APRIL WE DID A STUDY SESSION, AND IT WAS PRETTY WELL RECEIVED AND I MADE SOME CHANGES THAT WE ALL KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THAT WE WANTED TO DO.
I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE TIRED FROM THE PREVIOUS TWO MEETINGS.
SO THE PRIMARY CHANGES THAT WERE MADE WERE KIND OF MAKING THIS BUILDING MATERIALS READ MORE IN BIGGER PLAINS.
THIS SHOULD BE OPENING ANY SECOND.
SO THAT THERE WAS NO TACKED ON FEELING.
BEING ABLE TO -- I PULLED DOWN MORE MATERIALS, BROUGHT THEM ALL THE WAY DOWN, GOT THEM TO THE GROUND, TO THE GRADE, WAS ABLE TO MIX AND MATCH, MAKE IT WILL BASED ON YOU GUYS' FEEDBACK.
IT WAS SMALLER, LIKE PREVIOUS PARTS WERE JUST KIND OF BOXEDY IN THE SMALLER AREAS AND SMALLER USE OF THE MATERIAL, AND WE LOOKED AT IT AND IT'S REAL IMPORTANT TO PULL SOME OF THOSE PIECES BACK.
I PULLED THEM OVER THE ROOF AND THAT WAY WE HAVE ALL KINDS AREAS TO PUT ALL OUR MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT.
EVERY ROOF FEN TRAITION, EVERY IMPEACH OF HVAC.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PLACES ON ARE DEEP AND IT WON'T IN THE SIGHT I LINE EVER.
SOME OF THESE THINGS EVEN THOUGH THE ONLY PLACE YOU COULD POSSIBLY STHEEM WOULD BE WAY BACK HERE OFF OF KING AND BLISS IS STILL IMPORTANT TO ME SO IT'S ALL VISUALLY PROTECTED.
ANOTHER THING WHAT IS THAT WE WANTED TO ADD ARTS IN PUBLIC SPACES TO PLACES.
WE HAD SOME OF THESE BIG PLAINS SO I FOUND A COUPLE BIG AREAS.
THESE ARE PIECES OF ART OFF THE INTERNET.
WE HAVE A BIG CHUNK OF AREA HERE WHICH IS IN THE ALLEY.
AND THEN ON THE STREETSCAPE OVER HERE.
>> WE CAN'T SEE YOUR SCREEN, BEN.
IT SWITCHES TO ZOOM RIGHT WHEN I DO THAT.
WERE YOU ABLE TO SEE IT? WAS I JUST TALKING TO MYSELF? YOU NEVER SAW ANY OF THAT?
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SO WHAT I WAS SAYING WAS THAT I WAS ABLE TO BRING A LOT MORE OF THE MATERIALS DOWN.
THEY HAD BEEN LIKE 15-FOOT DEEP AND THEN I BROUGHT THEM ALL THE WAY DOWN TO MAKE A BETTER ELEVATION, MORE INTERESTING TO THE OVERALL STREETSCAPE, BURGLAR ON BLISS.
BLISS REALLY DEEP, I ADD MUCH DEEPER SHADE COMPONENTS THAT IS SOUTH FACING, AND PRETTY CRITICAL TO HAVE THAT EXPOSURE OR LACK OF EXPOSURE.
I DID PULL THE MATERIALS BACK ALONG THE ROOF SO THAT WE HAVE A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT AREAS WHERE ALL THE MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT CAN GO.
THEN THE ART AND PUBLIC SPACES THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT, WE HAVE A COUPLE GREAT LOCATIONS FOR THAT.
I JUST PULLED THEM FROM THE WEB SO I JUST DID A LITTLE PIECE OF ART HERE LIKE ON OASIS THERE.
SOME ARTWORK OVER HERE ON THE ALLEY.
AND THIS COULD BE MIXED MEDIA.
THEN OVER ON BLISS A SMALLER PIECE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THAT WOULD BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND ABLE TO GET THE PUBLIC INVOLVED WITH THAT, ARTISTS ANYWHERE IN THE COACHELLA VALLEY WOULD BE TERRIFIC.
WE HAVE MURALS WITHIN THE DESERTED.
THE OWNER IS VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT PROSPECT AND I THINK IT'S A NEAT WAY TO MAKE A MODERN BUILDING.
I GOT ONTO THE MEETING LATE IT.
SO YOU WERE ABLE TO SEE SOME OF THOSE MATERIALS.
SO WHAT I'M NOT SHOWING HERE PROBABLY TO COMMISSIONER FRANZ'S CHAGRIN IS THE COVERED THIRD FLOOR SHADING BUT I DO WANT TO FOLLOW THIS SAME KIND OF TECHNIQUE WITH LIGHTER GAUGE MATERIALS ON THOSE AREAS AS OPPOSED TO THE HEAVIER STUCCO PLASTER AREAS WHERE WE SEE IT IN THE MAJORITY OR THE NUMBER OF THESE PLACES.
AND THE REASON WHY I WANT DOOD THAT IS BECAUSE ONCE YOU START GETTING EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WITH A MORE PERMANENT STUCCO AND FRAMING CONSTRUCTION, THEN IT MAKES IT FEEL LIKE THE ENTIRE BUILDING IS A SOLID 50-FOOT TALL AND IT REALLY BREAKS -- MAKES IT HARD TO BREAK UP THE ELEVATIONS IN A MORE INTERESTING WAY.
SO THAT'S WHY THAT'S LIKE THAT.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING I'M GOING TO WORK WITH PLANNING THROUGH THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
OTHERWISE THERE'S NO SURPRISES HERE.
WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD MIX OF UNITS.
IT'S BETWEEN THE TWO BEDROOMS, ONE BEDROOMS AND STWEETS OR WHAT DO WE CALL THEM? WE CALL THEM MICRO UNITS AT 550 SQUARE FEET.
A LOT OF PUBLIC -- OR A LOT OF PRIVATE SPACE ON THE TOP FLOOR.
THIS IS I GUESS A LUCKY ACCIDENT.
THIS IS ALL ABOUT -- COVID, WE'RE LOOKING FOR EVERYTHING WE CAN DO OUTDOORS AND THIS PRESENTED A LOT OF GOOD OUTDOOR SPACE ALREADY FOR THE OCCUPANTS, SO THAT'S ALL PRIVATE.
THE ORIENTATIONS ARE FOR THE MOST PART WHERE IT WOULD BE THE MOST SEVERE.
DID I KIND OF LIMIT THEM TO THE LEAST AMOUNT OF TIME THAT THEY WOULD BE EXPOSED.
T LEAST HARSH, THE LEAST HARSH ELEVATION.
BUT EVEN -- WELL, IT SEEMS LIKE THE SUN IS NEVER GOING TO GO DOWN THIS YEAR, BUT UP UNTIL AUGUST, BASICALLY EARLY AUGUST AND JULY ARE REALLY THOSE EXPOSURES.
SO I GUESS MAYBE I SHOULD JUST ANSWER QUESTIONS MIGHT BE THE EASIER WAY.
IF I SOUND TIRED, I HURT MY BACK REALLY BADLY YESTERDAY.
DO ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT BEFORE WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING?
>> THANK YOU FORE MAKING A LOT OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE BUILDING.
I THINK THE DETAILS SHOW A LOT BETTER NOW ON THIS BUILDING, AND I'M QUITE EXCITED TO SEE THIS COME FORWARD.
I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE A PHYSICAL MATERIAL WARD WITH US, BUT HAVE YOU LOOKED AT
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ANY OF THE OTHER COLORS OTHER THAN THAT GREEN?IT'S ACTUALLY NOT EVEN A GOLD.
IT'S A REAL MILD -- I KNOW -- WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU USE THE COMPUTER, YOU KNOW, YOU GET KIND OF CAUGHT IN A 256K COLOR CHOICE, RIGHT? SO IT'S REALLY, REALLY A VERY MILD I GUESS YOU WOULD EVEN CALL IT A GOLD, BUT IT BARELY, IT ACTUALLY, IF YOU LOOK AT THE COLOR MATERIAL BOARD, AND WHAT I WILL PUT TOGETHER IS VERY MILD.
IT DOESN'T LOOK THAT GREENISH.
AND I WOULDN'T WANT TO DO THAT.
THIS IS NOT IN THE GREEN SCHEME.
I USE DUNN EDWARDSERS EVER COLOR AND I SHY AWAY FROM THE GREENS.
THESE ARE ALL IN THE ORANGE AND GOLDS.
>> REGARDING THE PARKING LOT THERE TO THE SOUTH, DID YOU LOOK OR THINK ABOUT ADDING CARPORTS PARTICULARLY HAD TO THAT MIDDLE AISLE?
>> CERTAINLY WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS ONCE WE GO INTO HARD CORE DESIGN.
WE HAVE -- WE PROBABLY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOLAR GAINED, ALSO, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE ONE OF THE THINGS I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO DO, THE OWNER WOULD LIKE TO DO.
IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT SO I DON'T SHOW IT, BUT IT SEEMS SENSIBLE THAT WE COULD DO THAT AS OPPOSED TO JUST RELY ON PLANTING.
>> THERE'S NOTHING THERE, THOUGH, THAT WOULD PROHIBIT YOU FROM ADDING.
>> THERE'S NOTHING THAT WOULD PROHIBIT THAT.
WOOK GET QUITE A FEW CARS THERE, SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF MAYBE 30 -- 32 OR 32 CARS IN A MILLED AISLE ALONE.
>> I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION REGARDING THE POOL AREA.
WILL THE POOL AREA ONLY BE ACCESSIBLE THROUGH THE BUILDING THROUGH LIKE LOBBY IN THE CENTRAL BUILDING?
IT'S CONTROLLED ACCESS ONLY FOR THE OCCUPANTS OR ONLY FOR THE OWNER -- I'M SORRY -- FOR THE RESIDENTS.
IF YOU SEE MY MOUSE, THAT ENTRY IS RIGHT HERE.
THE PATH OF TRAVEL TAKES YOU PAST IT.
BUT, YEAH, IT'S ONLY CONTROLLED ACCESSES IS FOR OCCUPANTS.
>> AND THAT WALL BETWEEN THE POOL AND THE PARKING AREA, THAT'S GOING TO BE SOLID SO IT WON'T REALLY BE VISIBLE FROM THE STREET.
>> VICE CHAIR LOPEZ, ANY QUESTIONS?
JUST TO MAJOR IMPROVEMENT FROM THE LAST PROJECT WE SAW AS IT CAME AROUND TO US, SO IT LOOKS GOOD.
SO YOUR COMMENT TO ME WAS THAT YOU ARE WHORNG A WAY TO PUT SOME TYPE OF SHADE STRUCTURE ON THAT THIRD FLOOR, CORRECT IN.
>> IN FACT, YOU KNOW WHAT? LET ME SEE -- I'M AFRAID TO OPEN UP ANOTHER WINDOW BECAUSE I DID -- YEAH, I HAVE IT AND IT WAS ALL READY TO GO.
YOU SEE THE SIDE OF MY SCREEN IS GOING WHACKY OVER HERE TOO.
THE TUBE STEEL AT 4-INCH INCREMENTS THAT WILL JUST BASICALLY BEND AND GO BACK.
IT'S NOTE A HARD LID SO IT'S NOT A WATERPROOF LID BUT IT'S A SHADE LID, AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO JUST FOR THE PURPOSE OF NOT BEING SO HEAVY.
THESE TWO RIGHT HERE -- OR I'M SORRY -- THIS ONE RIGHT HERE IS ONE BRUTAL EXPOSURE BUT THAT'S NOT BAD.
AND THEN ONE OVER HERE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ONE, TWO OR ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR.
AND THEN THE SOUTH SIDE IS DIALED IN REALLY BIG AND REALLY SHADED AND THESE UNITS HAVE BASICALLY OUTDOOR ROOMS. AND THEN ON THE NORTH SIDE SAME THING.
I WOULD PULL THAT METAL ACROSS AND OVER THE WINDOWS AND THE SAME THING HERE TOO.
THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN ONE OF MY CONCERNS.
>> ALSO ACTUALLY FOR YOUR PEACE OF MIND, THAT IS ACTUALLY INCLUDED IN THE RESOLUTION CONDITION B22.
>> ENSURE THAT WHATEVER THAT MAY BE TO MATCH THE STYLE OF THE FACADE.
SO THAT IS INCORPORATED IN THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME? NO? OKAY.
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND WE CAN MOVE TO DELIBERATION COMMISSIONERS OR DO I HAVE A
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MOTION?I QUITE LIKE THIS PROJECT, PARTICULARLY THE UNIT MIX.
I KNOW A LOT OF TIMES WE CAN -- I THINK PEOPLE LOOK AT SMALLER UNITS.
THE SMALL BLOCK WALL IS GREAT.
I THE WEST IN THE PARKING PERIMETER.
I THINK WE COULD SERVE SOME OF THOSE FUTURE RESIDENTS, SO IF WE GET A CARPORT THAT COULD BE SOLD ALREADY FOR THOSE MIDDLE STALLS.
SO IF YOU ARE ON BLISS, PLANS GIVEN BOTH SIDES OF YOU, LET YOU KNOW IN THE PARKING LOT THERE CAN BE A TALLER-SHAPED STRUCTURE THERE.
>> OKAY BUT OVERALL I LIKE THE PROJECT A LOT.
>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS FOR COMMISSIONERS.
>> LIKE THE PROJECT ELECTRIC LIKE THEY TOOK IN CONSIDERATION EVERYTHING THAT WE HAD TO OFFER BACK IN APRIL.
SAME AS THE COMMISSIONERS SAID, I LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING SOME COVERED PARKING THERE IN THE MIDDLE, AND I LIKE THE LANDSCAPE AROUND THE PARKING AREA ON BRACE AS WELL.
>> AGAIN I THINK THIS IS A GREAT ADDITION TO DOWNTOWN.
AGAIN, I WANT TO JUST GO AHEAD AND AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER CEJA, AND ALSO WE HAVE TO SAY, THAT'S IT.
ALSO, I WANT TO THINK THE APPLICANTS WERE DEFINITELY LISTENING TO US AT OUR PREVIOUS CITY SESSION, AND COMING BACK WITH ALL THE ITEMS THAT WE DISCUSSED.
I MEAN, IS VERY IMPORTANT TO US.
I DEFINITELY THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A PHENOMENAL ADDITION TO OUR DOWNTOWN AND WE HOPE TO SEE GROUNDBREAKING QUICKLY.
>> I HAVE TO START WORKING TOMORROW ON IT.
I DON'T WANT TO GIVE UP THAT ARGUMENT SO CHANGE THANK YOU.
>> MAK REGULATION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 1957, WAS LUCIAN ON MIKE RICHMAN APPEARING THREE -- 08477 SEARCHING THANK YOU.
>> IF I COULD JUST CLARIFY AS FAR AS THE SECOND CHAIR, AND ALSO DETERMINING THAT THE PROJECT WOULD BE EXEMPT FROM ENVIRONMENT TO QUALITY ACT.
TRANKER WAS IN THE COMMISSIONERS MOTION THERE AS WELL, IF THAT'S CORRECT.
>> SECOND SO CHANGE NO, OKAY WE HAVE A FIRST AND SECOND CALCULI PLEASE HAVE ROLL CALL VOTE SO CHANGE CHAIRPERSON FRANCE.
I LOOK FORWARD TO BUILDING IT.
ONE NEED TO STOP PRESSING THE STOP SHARING BUTTON, NIKKI?
>> OKAY, DO WE NEED A BREAK OR DOES EVERYBODY JUST WANT TO KEEP GOING OKAY, KEEP GOING? OKAY, NOBODY ELSE WILL BREAK OR SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM 8.4 SHAWNEE PLAZA.
[8.4 Chandi Plaza:]
CAN WE PLEASE HAVE THAT REPORT?>> LET ME SHARE MY SCREEN SO CHANGE CAN EVERYONE SEE THE PRESENTATION?
SO THAT EVENING, MADAM CHAIR, AND IS A COMMISSION ON BEFORE YOU I HAVE OCCASIONAL USE PERMIT AND DESIGN REVIEW CU P 220-ZERO SIX-1059 AND DESIGN REVIEW 20-06-475 FOR THE SHAWNEE PLAZA COMMERCIAL PROJECT.
THE PROJECT IS LOCATED MAKE A TRIANGLE-SHAPED LOT.
IT IS ORDERED BY FRED WARING AND EVERY 442 SOUTH AND BOULEVARD TO NORTH AND THE PROJECT SITE IS APPARENTLY TWO-DECKA CEEDEE 5 ACRES IN SIZE.
THE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY IS COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL AND THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE RETAILERS & LOCAL SERVING NEEDS TO THE RESIDENCE OF INDIA.
THE PROPOSED SITE LINE CONSISTS OF FOUR BUILDING DID A FIELD CANOPY, SO IT'S VERY CONVENIENCE STORE, A RETAIL BUILDING, A DRIVE-THROUGH RESTAURANT, AND A CARWASH.
THE CITY OF INDIO MS. VOKURKA WAS AGAINST POLICE TEMPTATION, THE FUEL STATION CUTTING CONVENIENCE TO DRIVE TO AND COACHES ARE ALL CONDITIONAL THAT IS
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SUBJECT TO CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.SO BEFORE YOU IS THE PROPOSED MATERIALS BOARD.
AS YOU CAN SEE THEY ARE COMPOSED OF FOUR THAT IS DEEMED, A PELOTON ALONG WITH SOME STORM VENEER.
SO THIS IS WHAT THE PROPOSED MATERIAL AND JUST TO LET YOU GET A BETTER IDEA, WHILE I'M SHOWING THOUGH REST OF THE INNOVATIONS FOR ALL THE BUILDINGS.
ANOTHER THING THAT I WANT TO POINT OUT IS THAT THEY HAVE PROVIDED HOW THE ROOFTOP MATERIAL MATERIAL, ROOFTOP EQUIPMENT, IS GOING TO BE SCREENED BY THE PARAPET CASTLE IT'S OUTLINED BY A HIDDEN OR DASHED LINE.
SO HERE'S THE PROPOSED ELEVATION A AND ALSO, IF YOU NOTICE ON THE BOTTOM CORNER YOU COULD SEE WHERE THAT BUILDING IS LOCATED AT THE SITE.
SO BUILDING A IS LOCATED ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF INDIO BOULEVARD, AND THIS IS THE CONVENIENCE STORE, AND IS APPARENTLY 49 L3 -- 49 OH THREE SQUARE FEET.
AND HERE IS THE PROPOSED FLOOR PLAN AND THE ROOF PLAN SHOWING WHERE THE EQUIPMENT IS GOING TO BE LOCATED.
SO THIS IS THE RETAIL BUILDING SO THIS IS GOING TO BE LOCATED TOWARDS THE SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY ALONG AVENUE 44.
AND THIS WILL BE FOR RETAIL USE, AND IS 4950 SQUARE FEET.
SIMILARLY HERE IS THE FLOOR PLAN AND THE ROOFTOP ROOF PLAN.
THIS IS FOR THE DRIVE-THROUGH FOR THE RESTAURANT, AND THIS BUILDING IS GOING TO BE 3400 SQUARE FEET.
ADDITIONAL, HERE IS THE FLOODPLAIN ALONG WITH THE ROOF PLAN FOR THAT.
AND LASTLY, HERE'S ELEVATION D FOR THE CARWASH, AND THIS IS GOING TO BE LOCATED ALONG INDIO BOULEVARD.
AND THEN HE WAS THE FLOOR PLAN AND THE ROOF PLAN FOR THAT AS WELL.
SO THIS JUST SHOWS SOME ARTICULATION FOR THE PROPOSED PROJECT FOR THE FAÇADES.
THAT ARE PROPOSING SOME POP-UPS THAT ARE BETWEEN 12 INCHES, 24 INCHES, AND 36 INCHES, SO THAT THEY COULD PROVIDE SOME ARTICULATION FOR THE FAÇADES.
HERE ARE THE DRAWINGS FOR THE FUEL STATION.
IT'S GOING TO BE ON A ISLAND FUEL STATION FOR THIS.
HERE IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, SO THE LANDSCAPE PLAN IS COMPRISED OF THEY WILL HAVE DROUGHT RESISTANT TREES, SHRUBS, SUCCULENTS, AND AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS NOW THEY ARE PROPOSING TO LINE INDIO BOULEVARD WITH SOME PALM TREES AND SOME TREES ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, AND THEN SOME MORE PALM TREES TOWARDS THE BOTTOM CORNER WHERE THE RETAIL BUILDING WILL BE LOCATED.
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HERE ARE SOME RENDERINGS BECAUSE SOME ROUGH RENDERINGS OF WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING TO DO ON THE SITE.SO JUST TO GET LIKE A VISUAL OF THE INTENT.
A APPLICANT HAS ALSO SUBMITTED A SIGNED PROGRAM FOR THE SHAWNEE PLAZA, AND IT WILL COMPLY ACCORDING TO THE CITY OF VIDEO PRINCIPAL, CHAPTER 150 FIRST LINES.
IT WILL COMPLY WITH OLDER GARMENTS AND WILL BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.
>>> AND WITH THAT CONCEPT RECOMMENDS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 19602 APPROVE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 20-ZERO SIX TEMPS DENIED TWO APPROVE USE OF THE COMMUNITY STORE, DRIVE-THROUGH FUEL STATION, RESTAURANT, CARWASH WITHIN THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT ZONE SUBJECT TO FINANCING CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL AND DETERMINING OF THE PRESIDENT HAS CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT ON THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENT QUALITY ACT, AND ALSO TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 1961 EARLY DESIGN REVIEW 20-ZERO SIX-475 FOR THE ARCHITECTURE SITE PLAN CIRCULATION, PARKING, LANDSCAPE THE SAME PROGRAM FOR A NEW COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT COMPRISING OF FOUR NEW BUILDINGS, OF A
CONVENIENCE STORE, A GASOLINE -- >> COUNTRY FOR GASOLINE FUEL STATION, RETAIL BUILDING, A DRIVE-THROUGH RESTAURANT, AND A CARWASH, SUBJECT TO THE FINANCE OAKLEYS OF APPROVAL AND THE COMING OF THE PRESIDENT CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT FROM THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT.
AND WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES MY STAFF REPORT.
I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS HERE AS WELL, AND THE STAFFING APPLICANT CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE SO CHANGE THANK YOU DONKTUM WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, STAFF, AND THIS REPORT BEFORE WE HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT, OR DO WE WANT TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT FIRST?
>> I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT SO CHANGE OKAY, GO AHEAD THEN, OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND WE INVITE THE APPLICANT TO DO A PRESENTATION TO PLANNING COMMISSION, PLEASE.
>> YES SIR CHANGE GETTING TO MY NAME IS ANDY, AND THE PROJECT MANY FOR THE SHAWNEE GROUP OR IF I SOUND TIRED, IT'S BECAUSE I AM.
BUT I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU SPENDING YOUR WEDNESDAY EVENING WITH THE TEAM ON ZOOM BY OR ON BEHALF OF THE SUNDAY GROUP, FAMILY, THE PUBLIC MATURING CITY PLANNING ON TAKING TIME TO PLAN WITH THIS THIS EXCITING PROJECT.
TO THINK THE STAFF FOR THE MULTIPLE DEVELOPMENT MEETINGS PUTTING A ROUNDTABLE GROUP THAT WE HAD, DRC, THESE MEETINGS WE HAD IN THE FIRST -- WE JUST WANT TO THANK THE STAFF FOR THEIR HAR WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT OF THE 111 CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FOR THE PROJECT, WE AGREE WITH 109.
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AND WE WOULD LIKE THE APPLICATION OF ONLY TWO, PLEASE, IF POSSIBLE.NUMBER 84 READS APPLICANT SHALL CONSTRUCT FULL SITE IMPROVEMENTS ON THE FOLLOWING STREETS.
AND DICKIE NOLES A BOULEVARD, ONE HALF IMPROVEMENTS OUTSIDE, AND YOU AVENUE 44 IMPROVEMENTS NORTHSIDE.
WE SUGGESTED STATE APPLICANT SHALL CONSTRUCT OFF-SITE IMPROVEMENTS ON THE FOLLOWING STREETS, THEREBY ELIMINATING "FULL" FROM THAT LINE.
IN REGARDS TO NOTES A AND B, A, INDIO BOULEVARD ONE HALF IMPROVEMENTS OUTSIDE PER CONDITIONS 91E AND 92.
FOR B EVERY 441 HALF STREET IMPROVEMENTS NORTHSIDE, WITH THE ADDITION OF PER CONDITIONS 86 AND 91F.
AND JUST THOSE CLARIFICATIONS.
AND IN REGARDS TO 91, 91 READS -- THIS IS THE SELTZER AVENUE BOULEVARD SHALL BE A CRACK IN A SEALED SLURRY SEALED WITH A TYPE TWO IAS SLURRY SEAL BALL PROJECT IS COMPLETED WITHIN TWO YEARS FROM ENTITLEMENT DATES BUT OTHERWISE IT WILL BE A GRAND AND OVERLY OF 2 INCHES IN THICKNESS OF EXISTING ASPHALT CONCRETE PAVEMENT FROM SATILLA TO CURB AND GUTTER.
THE SUGGESTION IS THE SULTAN OF INDIA BOULEVARD SHALL BE IMPROVED WITH NEW CURB AND GUTTER TO THE INTERSECTION OF INDIA BOULEVARD AND AVENUE 44.
THOSE ARE THE TWO CLARIFICATIONS WE ARE REQUESTING.
AGAIN, WE ARE EXCITED FOR THIS NEW PROJECT, THIS NEW REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT, REVITALIZATION PROJECT.
AND, AGAIN, WE THANK THE ENTIRE STAFF OF THE CITY COUNTY COMMISSION, WE APPRECIATE IT.
>> DID WE HAVE A STAFF CLARIFICATION OF THOSE ITEMS FOR THE APPLICANT?
>> I BELIEVE HE IS HERE DURING THE MEETING.
CAN YOU PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION?
>>> YES, MISSUS ROB BONO'S WITH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
EARLIER I HAD A CONVERSATION -- CONVERSATION WITH BOTH MARCELLO AND I THOUGHT THAT WE HAD AGREED TO THOSE CONDITIONS.
I ALSO HAVE -- WE ACTUALLY RECEIVEED A LETTER FROM A -- WE RECEIVED A LETTER FROM MARCH ABLE AROUND 4:30.
I PLACED A CALL TO MARK AND TO THE AROUND NINE -- 30 IN THE MORNING.
I DID NOT GET A RESPONSE FROM HIM UNTIL THIS MORNING.
AND I DID HAVE PHONE CONVERSATION WITH BOTH ANGIE AND MARK, AND I THOUGHT WE HAD AGREED TO THOSE CONDITIONS, BECAUSE I HAD DISCUSSED THOSE CONDITIONS WITH MY SUPERVISOR, JUAN, AND THE INTENT OF THE CONDITIONS, THE WAY WE DID THOSE, THAT IS -- THOSE ARE STANDARD CONDITIONS, AND THEY WILL NOT DEVIATE FROM WHAT THEY ARE SUGGESTING, SO MY SUPERVISOR ONE JUAN HAD ASKED HIM TO TALK TO ME, AND I DID, AND I THOUGHT WE HAD A UNDERSTANDING OF THOSE CONDITIONS.
>> AND, MADAM CHAIR, IF I MAY, MR. LOPEZ, IF YOU CAN ALSO DISCUSS ON THE CONDITION WHEN YOU SAY, "FULL" THAT THE CITY MEANS FULL IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH IMPROVES -- WHICH INCLUDES ROADS AND GUTTERS, CORRECT?
AND LET'S SAY FOR INSTANCE LET'S TALK ABOUT INDIO BOULEVARD.
INDIO BOULEVARD KATHY CONDITION FOR INDIO BOULEVARD WAS TO REMOVE AND REPLACE THE ZAKIM DRIVEWAY BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THEY DON'T SERVE A PURPOSE.
TO REMOVE AND REPLACE THE CURB AND GUTTER, TO PLACE NEW SIDEWALK, STREETLIGHTS.
AND ONE OF THE CONDITIONS WAS THAT IF THEY BUILD THE PROJECT WITHIN TWO YEARS -- WITHIN TWO YEARS FROM TODAY'S DATE, THEN ALL THEY NEED TO DO IS JUST A CRACK
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CONCEAL, SLURRY SEALED.BUT IF IT TAKES LONGER BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE PAYMENT IS GOING TO TAKE MORE BEATING, THEN THEY NEED TO DO A GRIND AND OVERLAY FOR TWO INCHES OF EXISTING ASPHALT.
AND THAT IS FOR INDIO BOULEVARD.
NOW FOR AVENUE 44, THE PAYMENT IS IN GOOD CONDITION COUNSEL FOR THAT WE ONLY SUGGESTED A CRACK SEAL, SLURRY SEAL, AND YOU KNOW, AND HIS TEAM PAYMENT IS NEXT TO THE ULTIMATE COUNSEL THEY ARE GOING TO EXTEND THE PAYMENTS TO THE PROPOSED CURB AND GUTTER AND SIDEWALK THAT THEY ARE DOING.
AND THAT'S MORE CONDITIONS, BASICALLY, THAT'S WHAT THEY SAY.
SO CHANGE GOT ANYTHING TO ADD?
>> HI, THIS IS TONY HERE -- TONY MARY HERE WITH SUNDAY GROUP.
THIS ONE CONDITION WE ARE ASKING.
I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE CERTAIN SHE STATED THAT ARE IN PLACE BUT WE ARE GOING IN AND TAKING HIS PROPERTY FROM A ZERO TO HERO IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT THAT FAR AND THERE'S A LOT INVOLVED IN THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE PUT INTO IT, AND I KNOW THE CITY HAS DONE THREE IMPROVEMENTS ALL OVER THE CITY DOING -- DESIGNATING CERTAIN AREAS.
THIS WILL BE A GREAT AREA WITH THE CITY COULD MAYBE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY FOR US IN THIS REGARD, AND WE WOULD JUST APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION IN LOOKING THAT, AND AT THE VERY LEAST CLARIFYING THOSE CONDITIONS, AS WE HAVE LOOKED AT THOSE THEY SEEM TO BE SOME CONTRADICTIONS IN SOME OF THE LANGUAGE FROM ONE PART, I THINK IT WAS 84 TO 91.
SO THIS IS WHY WE ARE ASKING, OUT OF 111 CONDITIONS ON THE PROJECT THAT WE SAY TO GREAT, MR. SHAUNDI, ALMOST, DO IT, GET THEM.
WE ARE ASKING YOU TO GET CONSIDERATION FOR THESE TWO AREAS.
SO CHANGE THE STAFF WANT TO ADDRESS THE.
I WILL ADDRESS ONE PART OF THE COMMENTS.
SO STAFF CANNOT COMMIT TO ANY CAPITAL PROJECTS AT THIS JUNCTURE.
LETTER TO CITY COUNCIL DECISION.
SO IF THE REQUEST WILL BE FOR THE CITY TO CONDUCT ANY INFLUENCE OUTSIDE IMPROVEMENTS, STAFF CANNOT COMMIT TO THAT, NOR CAN WE IN ANY WAY ALL THAT TO OCCUR DURING DEVELOPMENT TO REVIEW.
THAT IS A -- A CAPITAL PERMIT PROGRAM IS DESIGNED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
I THINK, IF THE APPLICANTS' REQUEST IS FOR CLARIFICATION, WE CAN CERTAINLY CONTINUE TO CLARIFY THAT THROUGH DISCUSSION NOW.
I BELIEVE -- AND, I APOLOGIZE FOR PUTTING YOUR RESPONSE -- BUT I BELIEVE THE INTENT IS, FIRST THAT THEY ARE HAVE TO IMPROVES, NOT FULL-SCREEN IMPROVERS, AND THAT THE PAYMENT WORK WILL BE DONE ROADS TO THE CURRENT CONDITION OF THE ROADWAYS AND THEY NEEDED CONDITION TO ACCOMMODATE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC RESULTING FROM THE PROJECT? IS THAT A FAIR WAY TO SAY IT? THAT PAYMENT IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE THAT WAY?
BECAUSE, LIKE I SAID, THE PAYMENT OFF AVENUE 44 IS IN GOOD CONDITION, AND ALL WE ARE ASKING FOR, FOR THE PURITAN AVENUE 44 CARES ONLY FOR A AXIAL SLURRY SEAL.
THE 100 YEAR BOULEVARD IS IN A DIFFERENT CONDITION, AND THAT IS WHY WE ARE SAYING WELL, IF IT'S OUT THIS TIME YOU KNOW, WITHIN TWO YEAR THEN YOU CAN DO THIS.
BUT IF IT GOES BEYOND THAT, THEN YOU NEED TO DO THIS.
NOW, LIKE I SAY, I, MYSELF AND MY SUPERVISOR JUAN DISCUSSED THESE CONDITIONS.
IF INTENSITY CONDITIONS IS -- SERVE THE SAME PURPOSE.
WHATEVER, IF THE BODY CHOOSES TO GO WITH THEIR RECOMMENDATION, THAT'S FINE.
SO CHANGE SO IS THAT SOMETHING -- AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS SOMETHING FOR KEVIN OR COMMISSIONER.
IS THIS SOMETHING THAT THE COMMISSION HAS THE POSSIBILITY TO BE A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBLE WITH SOME OF THESE CONDITIONS? YOU KNOW, IF YOU ARE NOT, WE ARE ASKING FOR CAPITAL, WE ARE JUST SAYING TAKE THIS OFF OF THE TABLE, THAT MAYBE THAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE ONE OF THE CONDITIONS FOR THIS PROJECT.
I MEAN, THE ROAD IS ALREADY THERE.
THE BRITISH TRAVELED FREQUENTLY WITH OR WITHOUT OUR ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC, AND
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I DON'T THINK THAT THAT IS FAIR TO PUT THAT ARMUS UNDER THE CERTAIN SITUATION.AND, AGAIN, IT'S JUST A REQUEST BONAWITZ 111, WE WANT TO GET THIS PROJECT DONE.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, I NO -- WHILE DOWN, THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING TO OUR TEAM EARLIER ON THIS.
THE PROJECT TIMELINE IS FAST TRACKING, WE REALLY ARE MOTIVATED TO GET THIS PROJECT COMPLETED AND OPEN BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.
AND SO WE ARE NOT LOOKING AT US WE ARE TIMELINE BONAVISTA GOING TO BE A -- MAGIC.
THAT'S WHAT I AM GOING TO COLLEGE.
SO HOPEFULLY IS THE DISCRETION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THIS DECISION WITH THESE TWO ITEMS.
>> CHAIRPERSON GLORIA YOU KNOW, LOCATION FOR INDIO BOULEVARD IS NOT DIFFERENT THAN THE CONDITION THAT HE WOULD PUT FOR ANY OTHER PROJECT.
ANYTIME THERE'S A PROJECT UNIT EACH PROJECT IS CONDITIONED ON DOING PROJECT ON THE FRONTAGE OF PROPERTY.
BUT IF THE BODY DECIDE THAT THEY WANT TO GO OTHERWISE, THEN THAT'S FINE.
>> IT'S INDISCRETION -- IT'S IN DISCRETION.
SOMETHING THE CONDITION -- COMMISSION, DISCUSSED DURING DELIBERATIONS TO SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE WOULD LIKE TO DO, WHETHER WE WOULD WANT TO CONTINUE WITH THE REGULATION FROM STAFF.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME?
>> I HAD A QUESTION REGARDING THE RETAIL BUILDING BEHIND THE CONVENIENCE STORE, AND ONE OF THE DIAGRAMS THAT I SAW SAID RESTAURANT/RETAIL.
THIS POSSIBLY BE FOR US AT THE RESTAURANT OR WHAT RETAIL USE WOULD IT BE USED FOR?
IT'S VERY FLEXIBLE RIGHT NOW, BUT YES, IT COULD BE A SITDOWN RESTAURANT IN THE FUTURE SO CHANGE I THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT WE ARE LOOKING TO ATTRACT.
'S LOOKING AT THE LACK OF A LINE OF RESTAURANTS IN THAT AREA AN IDEAL TO WE WANTED TO BE A IDEAL CONVENIENCE CENTER.
WE'VE GOT OUR COUNTY BUILDINGS ACROSS THE STREET ONE THERE IS NO MULTIFAMILY PROJECT THAT WAS APPROVED I BELIEVE JUST ACROSS THE STREET ALSO FOR THE PROJECT, AND IN A PERFECT WORLD WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CUBA RIGHT NOW SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT -- BUT IN A COOL -- PERFECT WORLD THE SITDOWN RESTAURANT IS A GOAL.
AND MAYBE SOME TYPE OF -- YOU KNOW WHETHER IT'S A NAIL SALON OR OTHER TYPE OF SMALL RETAILERS IS THE TARGET SO CHANGE THANK YOU.
>> REPORTER: COMMISSIONER CEJA'S DID YOU HAVE QUESTION.
>> WHAT CAN ADDRESS WAS GIVEN REGARDING SITE DESIGN LAYOUT AND ARCHITECTURE FOR THIS BUILDING?
>> WHEN I LOOK UP AND DOWN AND YOU BOULEVARD I CAN'T THINK OF A SINGLE COMMERCIAL CENTER THAT BACK TO INDIO BOULEVARD, THEY ALL OPEN TO THE STREET.
SO I WONDER IF THERE'S EVER DISCUSSION ON BUILDING ORIENTATION FOR THOSE SITES.
>> STEVE COX YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT?
WE HAVE OUR DESIGN TEAM HERE WITH US TONIGHT ALSO.
THE WHOLE CREW IS HERE HAVING DINNER TOGETHER.
I HOPE YOU GUYS HAD SOME DINNER TOGETHER.
WE HAD THREE MEETINGS WITH STAFF.
WE WERE ABLE TO GET WAYANS EARLY ON SEVERAL STAFF MEMBERS BOND THANK YOU BY THE WAY FOR PUTTING THAT TOGETHER FOR US.
AND THEN DRC, I KNOW OUR TEAM MET WITH MEMBERS OF THE DRC.
I THINK WE STARTED WITH ROSE AND STARTED WORKING WITH GUSTAVO.
THANK YOU, SO, YEAH, DAVE GOTT BACK AND FORTH ON WHAT CAN WE DO WITH THIS VERY ODDLY SHAPED PIECE OF PROPERTY TO REALLY MAXIMIZE THE POTENTIAL FOR THE SITE.
>> THE ONLY WAY WE COULD SEE ALL THE BILLINGS FACING INDIO BOULEVARD, WE WOULD HAVE EVERYONE BUILDING THERE, OR TWO.
THERE REALLY WASN'T ANY WAY TO TURN THEM.
AND FRANKLY BECAUSE MR. SHAUNDI ABSENTLY TAKES THIS AS OPPOSED TO INDIO BOULEVARD, THERE WAS SOME DEBATE ABOUT WHETHER FRED WARING WAS A BUSY STREET AND MAYBE SHOULD HAVE THE FRONTAGE.
SO THE DESIGN TEAM CAME UP WITH WHAT WE FEEL WAS THE BEST RETURN ON VALUE MAXIMIZING THE PROPERTY SPACE THAT WAS THERE, AND HAVING THE BUILDINGS ALL BENEFIT ONE ANOTHER.
SO IT'S INTENDED TO BE SOMETHING THAT ANYBODY WHO WORKS OVER AT THE COUNTY BUILDING CAN WALK ACROSS THE STREET.
WE MADE SURE THAT THE STREETS LINEUP.
I DON'T KNOW THE RIGHT WORDING THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT I DID SAY THAT? THANK YOU -- SO THAT THEY COULD HAVE -- EASE OF GETTING ACROSS THE STREETS.
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THE FUTURE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT, HE WANTED EVERYBODY TO KIND OF BE OPEN TO ALL OF THEM.SO THERE IS A LOT OF OPEN SPACE RIGHT NOW ON INDIO BOULEVARD AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS IS THE PROJECT THAT NEEDS TO BE OUTWARDLY FACING BUT ALSO THANK YOU, I HOPE THAT ANSWERED WHAT WE LOOKED AT HER AND ERIC ASKED ABOUT DURATION.
WE DID MEET SEVERAL TIMES WITH CITY STAFF BEFORE AND DRC ON THAT.
>> I'M CURIOUS IF THERE'S OTHER SITE ALTERNATIVES THAT WERE EXPLORED.
MAYBE IT CAN'T ACCOMMODATE FOUR SEPARATE BUILDINGS.
BUT, AGAIN, THERE IS NOT A COMMERCIAL BUILDING THAT BACK TO INDIO BOULEVARD AND VERY MUCH OF HERO USING THIS SITE DEVELOPED, AND THE DEVELOPMENT COME TO THIS AREA.
BUT FOR SITE DESIGN I DON'T AGREE WITH IT.
I THINK THERE IS A LOT TO BE DESIRED THERE, AND ARCHITECTURALLY SPEAKING ON THESE BUILDINGS, THEY ARE VERY ANTI-90S FOZ.
I DON'T SEE A LOT OF CHARACTER TO THEM.
I DON'T SEE THIS ICY BOX WITH LIMITED DESIGN FEATURE POP-UPS.
I DON'T SEE A LOT OF DEPTH IN THE BUILDING ON AND I THINK IT'S PARTICULARLY THE GAS STATION THAT SEEMS OVERLY TALL.
SO THESE ANIMALS THAT WERE PUT ONTO IT COUNTIES LITTLE -- SORRY, IS GETTING 10:00 O'CLOCK, I'M LOSING MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT HERE -- ON SOME ARCHWAYS, THEY DON'T TO KEEGO HARBOR ENOUGH.
TO BELIEVE GIVEN EXCESS OF 20 SEAT THAT 20 FEET.
ARCHITECTURE, I THINK IT'S FOR THE NEEDS TO BE EXPLORED.
AND I HAVE SOME REAL CONCERNS ON THE SIGN PROGRAM.
>> CICON COMMISSIONER, IF I COULD JUMP IN.
WE ARE STILL ON THE LOOKING PORTION, SO IF WE COULD RESERVE THE DELIBERATION UNTIL THE LATER PORTION AND SEE IF WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS PERIOD.
>> I THINK WE ARE ALL A LITTLE TIRED NOW.
ANY GUIDANCE ON THE SIGN PROGRAM, AND PARTICULARLY A 20-FOOT TALL SIGN ALONG INDIO BOULEVARD?
>> SO I THINK THAT WE ARE WITHIN THE SIGN GUIDELINES.
AND THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS -- AND WE THOUGHT THIS WAS PRETTY COOL -- WE ARE ACTUALLY REPLACING THE EXISTING SIGN THAT WAS THERE.
WE ARE NOT BRINGING IN A NEW SIGN.
WE ARE NOT AS EXISTING -- TO CHANGE THE SIGN THAT'S THERE.
WHERE TAKEN SIGNS THAT WE ARE TAKING THIS TRAINING PROPOSING A.
OUR TEAM IS HERE IF THEY NEED TO BE MORE SPECIFIC ON THAT ANSWERED AND THAT.
>> MADAM CHAIRPERSON, MAY I INDULGE, PLEASE?
>>> SO IN REGARDS TO ENGINEERING CONDITIONS, WE THINK THAT THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING THOSE CHANGES, WE NEED TO DISCUSS THAT ALSO INTERESTED IN YOU BECAUSE THOSE BUILDINGS ARE THE TECHNICIAN THAT ALL THE PROJECTS WE SEE HAVE STREET IMPROVEMENT OR SO STILL, IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO PURSUE THOSE REVISIONS, WE'D LIKE TO SUGGEST PERHAPS THIS HEARING NEEDS TO BE CONTINUED SO WE CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY ENGINEER.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME, OR STAFF?
>> NO, OKAY WE HAVE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
>> WE DO NOT SO CHANGE WE DO NOT, OKAY.
OKAY, THEN WE WILL -- WHAT WILL I GUESS WE CAN CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, MAYBE I WILL REOPEN LATER ON WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE CAN HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF AND AMONG THE COMMISSIONERS, AND WE CAN GO FROM THERE, SO DO I HAVE ANY COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS AT THIS TIME?
WE HAVE SEEN SIGN PROGRAM JIM TULLER SIGNS COME INTO THE CITY.
WE ARE STARTING TO PUSH BACK ON THOSE.
I UNDERSTAND THINKING ABOUT REPRODUCING THE SIGN THAT'S ALREADY THERE.
WHEN I LOOK AT INDIO BOULEVARD & THAT ARE ALREADY THERE, THIS ONE IS IN TERRIBLE CONDITION BUT THE UNDERSIGNED THAT ARE THERE ARE FOUR HOTELS.
THEY HAVE KIND OF A GOOFY KIND OF LOOK OR FEEL TO THEM, KIND OF FUNKY, 1950S.
I DON'T SEE THIS 20-FOOT TALL SIGN COMING IN AND BEING COMPATIBLE WITH THOSE.
SWEATERS FROM THE SAME PERSPECTIVE I THINK THAT IS PRETTY CONSTANT FROM THIS PLANNING COMMISSION TO PUSH BACK ON THOSE TALLER SIGNS.
THEN AGAIN I HAVE REAL CONCERNS WITH THE SITE ORIENTATION AND THE ARCHITECTURE SO CHANGE OKAY.
>> I AM CONCERNED WHEN WE HAVE APPLICANTS AND THINGS ARE NOT CONSISTENT WITH WHAT
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DIRECTIONS ARE GIVEN, WHETHER IT BE AN APPLICANT.BUT I JUST -- I AM JUST A LITTLE CONFUSED, MR. LOPEZ, ON HOW THAT PROCESS WAS CARRIED OUT.
>> WE HAVE HERE THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.
REQUIRED ONE TREE FOR EVERY 20 LINEAR FEET.
THERE ARE CURRENTLY SOME EXISTING TREES AND THE ARBORIST THAT HAS BEEN HIRED BY THE APPLICANT SAY THERE ARE SOME TREES THAT NEED TO BE REMOVED.
WE WILL BE WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT TO MAKE SURE THE TREES REMOVED WILL BE
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REPLACED AS FAR AS WHAT IS REQUIRED ON THE TREES HERE AT THE FRONTAGE.THERE ARE ALSO TREE CANOPIES THAT ARE ALIGNED WITH PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS THAT WRAP AROUND THE BUILDING, AS WELL AS A BUFFER OF TREES AND SHRUBBERY ON THE WEST
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SIDE OF THE BUILDING.AND ALL ARE PROPOSED AS LOW WATER DESERT SCAPE SHRUBBERY.
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THERE ARE SOME AREAS THAT ARE CURRENTLY GRASSED OR LAWNED.THOSE HAVE BEEN REQUIRED TO BE REMOVED AND REPLACED WITH DESERT SCAPE.
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SO WITH THAT, STAFF RECOMMENDS ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION 1943, A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT ADOPTING A MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECK AND A MITIGATION MONITORING REPORTING PROGRAM, AS WELL AS ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION 1944.THE APPLICANT IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, AND THEY'RE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER THEM.
THAT COMPLETES MY STAFF REPORT.
>> CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? OH GOOD.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF AT THIS TIME?
>> I JUST HAVE ONE, ROSIE, SINCE YOU MENTIONED LANDSCAPE WAS BEING MODIFIED.
THE GRASS AREAS WOULD BE REMOVED.
DOES THAT INCLUDE THE SMALL TURF AREAS THAT ARE CURB ADJACENT OR THE STREET SIDE OF THE SIDEWALK?
>> THE SITE AS WE'VE SEEN IT FOR MANY YEARS HAS BEEN TURFED.
THAT RIGHT NOW IN ITS CURRENT STATE IS NO LONGER THE CASE BECAUSE THE APPLICANT HAS DONE A MASS GRATING ON THIS SITE.
THEY RECEIVED A MASS PERMIT SO THEY CAN GRATE THE SITE.
BUT THERE ARE SECTIONS REPLACING SIDEWALK AND THEY'RE ASKED TO BE REPLACE WITH DESERT SCAPE, DG OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
>> WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE CAN HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME.
>> CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? GREAT.
MADAM CHAIR, I KNOW IT'S LATE, WE'LL MOVE THROUGH THIS QUICKLY.
WE APPRECIATE THE PLANNING STAFF THAT HELPED US GET HERE.
THERE WAS A LOT OF CONSTRUCTIVE DIALOGUE AND I THINK WE ACHIEVED A GREAT PRODUCT.
WE'RE EXCITED TO EXPAND THE BRAND TO BRING THE OUTLET TO CALIFORNIA.
WE CONTINUE TO INVEST IN CALIFORNIA: THE LANDSCAPE AND THE BUILDINGS WE TRY TO
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PUT FORTH FOR THE BENEFIT OF EVERYBODY.THESE AREN'T PRODUCTS WE SELL.
WE KEEP THEM AND WE HOLD THEM.
THE BUILDING ARCHITECTURE REFLECTS THAT.
WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO IMPROVE THE OTHER BUILDINGS OVERTIME AS WELL.
WITH THAT, I THINK WE'VE TRIED TO ACCOMPLISH AND ACCOMMODATE EVERYTHING THROUGH OUR DIALOGUE WITH ROSIE AND OTHER MEMBERS.
WE HAD A LITTLE PAUSE WITH COVID, AS EVERYBODY DID.
THE SITE IS GRATED AND WE'RE READY TO BUILD THE BUILDING.
WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE ARCHITECTURE AND OTHER PARTS OF THE PROJECT.
>> ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME? NOBODY.
AS YOU KNOW, INDIO IS KNOWN FOR ITS DATE PALM.
I DIDN'T SEE ANY DATE PALMS ALONG HIGHWAY 111.
IS THAT SOMETHING EVER DISCUSSED OR CONSIDERED AS PART OF YOUR LANDSCAPE PLAN? I COULDN'T SEE ANY DATE PALMS.
SO WE LOOKED AT THERE'S PART OF THE DIALOGUE TO MOVE SOME OF THE TREES AND TO ADD OTHER TREES, WHICH IS SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO DO ACROSS THE WHOLE SITE.
THE DATE PALMS WERE BEING CONSIDERED IN THE PROJECT.
AND WE'RE TRYING TO SEE WHERE WE CAN USE THEM.
WE'LL BE PLACING THEM AS WE DEVELOP THE FINAL LANDSCAPE PLAN FOR SUBMISSION.
REALLY FOLLOWS THROUGH WITH OUR CITY AND OUR THEME AND THE LOOK WE'RE TRYING TO HAVE.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE A NICE ADDITION.
I HIGHLY ENCOURAGE THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE LANDSCAPE PLAN FOR THE AREA.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? OR WE'RE ALL TOO TIRED AND IT'S TOO LATE.
BECAUSE THIS HAS COME UP IN THE PAST.
ON THE RETURNS WHERE YOU HAVE THE CORNESS, THE POP UPS ABOVE THE BUILDING ARCHITECTURE.
PLEASE WORK WITH STAFF AND STAFF WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO MAKE SURE THOSE RETURNS COME BACK FAR ENOUGH SO NO MATTER WHAT DIRECTION YOU'RE HEADING ON HIGHWAY 111, YOU DON'T SEE THAT EDGE PROFILE, YOU SEE THE FULL FORM.
>> WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT ON THE PLANS.
BUT WE WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE A SOLID ELEMENT AND NOT A PIECE THAT'S BEEN STAPLED OFF.
WE WILL MAKE THOSE RETURNS DEEP ENOUGH SO IT LOOKS LIKE A SOLID ELEMENT INTERLOCKING IN TO THE BUILDING.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
SO IF THERE ARE NO OTHER FURTHER QUESTIONS, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM.
DELIBERATIONS OR DO I HAVE A MOTION? DON'T MAKE ME THINK I'M MUTED AGAIN.
>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 1943, ADOPTING THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT 20 04456.
AND ADOPT A RESOLUTION 1944, INITIALLY APPROVING DESIGNER REVIEW.
DO I HAVE A SECOND THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER.
CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
I HAVE SOME CONNECTIVITY ISSUES.
LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEW OUTLET.
>> I'D LIKE TO SHARE MY SCREEN.
[04:20:03]
I CANNOT.IT LOOKS LIKE LAYLA'S SCREEN IS COMING THROUGH.
COACHELLA VALLEY MEDICAL CENTER LLC.
>> I'M JUST TRYING TO GET MY PRESENTATION BACK UP.
[9.1 Time Extension:]
I ACCIDENTALLY CLOSED IT.>> CHAIR, IF I MAY HAVE JUST FOR CLARIFICATION PURPOSES, ON THE LAST MOTION, UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT THE COMMISSIONER'S MOTION WAS TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 1943, WHICH WOULD BE RESOLUTION OF THE COMMISSION ADOPTING THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT, WHICH WAS A MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION.
I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT FOR THE RECORD THAT THAT'S WHAT THAT RESOLUTION NUMBER CORRESPONDS TO.
AND COMMISSION, CAN YOU SEE THE SCREEN?
SO AS YOU MENTIONED, THIS ONE YEAR TIME EXTENSION FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND DESIGN REVIEW FOR COACHELLA VALLEY MEDICAL CENTER.
THE PROJECT IS LOCATED NORTH OF DR. CARION, AND EAST OF MONROE.
AS YOU SEE, THAT SHOWS THE ZONING AND THE SURROUNDING ZONING, WHICH IS RESIDENTIAL LOW.
THE PROJECT WAS APPROVED IN 2017 FOR SINGLE STORY SKILLED NURSING FACILITY.
IT WAS EXTENDED IN 2019 FOR ONE YEAR, WHICH WILL BE EXPIRED SEPTEMBER 27, 2020.
THE PROJECT REQUIRES OSH POD REVIEW NOT THE CITY REVIEW.
DUE TO COVID AND TIME LINE OF OSH POD, THE APPLICANT WERE ABLE TO OBTAIN APPROVAL FROM OSHPOD RECENTLY.
HOWEVER, THEY NEED TO NOW HAVE MORE TIME TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT AND BID AND HIRE CONTRACTOR AND PULL THE PERMIT WITH OSHPOD.
SO THEY'RE REQUESTING ANOTHER YEAR, AND EXTEND THE EXPIRATION DATE TO SEPTEMBER 27, 2021.
THESE ARE THE APPROVED ELEVATIONS.
AND IT SHOWS THE PROJECT CONCEPT.
AND BASED ON STAFF REPORT, STAFF RECOMMENDS PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVE RESOLUTION 1968 ALLOWING ONE YEAR TIME EXTENSION TO THE APPLICANT SO THEY CAN SECURE PERMIT WITH OSHPOD.
THAT CONCLUDES MY STAFF REPORT.
THE APPLICANT IS ALSO HERE TONIGHT.
HE AND I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
DO I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF AT THIS TIME? NO.
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE PLANNING COMMISSION, YOU CAN AT THIS TIME.
[04:25:08]
LAILA, SO WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, WHICH IS FINE.>> WE HAVE MR. ISAACMAN ON THE ZOOM.
BUT I'M NOT SURE IF HE CAN HEAR US.
>> DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON THIS ITEM, SIR?
>> MR. ISAACSON, THAT QUESTION IS FOR YOU FROM MADAM CHAIRPERSON GLORIA FRANZ.
SHE'S ASKING YOU THE PUBLIC IS OPEN IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING TO THE STAFF REPORT.
>> AS YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WE WERE GIVEN THE OSHPOD PERMIT.
IT'S BEEN VERY DIFFICULT BUT WE'VE NOW GOT THAT.
WE STARTED THE PROCESS APPROXIMATELY A MONTH AGO TO SELECT THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR.
AND WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF INTERVIEWING NOT INTERVIEWING, WE ACTUALLY HAVE PROPOSALS FROM THREE DIFFERENT GENERAL CONTRACTORS, WHICH I COULD SHARE WITH YOU IF YOU'D LIKE.
I'VE GOT ALL THE PAPERS IN FRONT OF ME.
WE ARE FINALIZING WHO WE CHOOSE IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS.
WE'VE ALSO BEGUN THE PROCESS OF SELECTING THE INSPECTOR OF RECORD.
WE HAVE INTERVIEWED DOUGLAS STORKER, WHO I'M SURE YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH.
WE WILL SELECT BOTH OF THESE WITHIN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS.
DURING THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS I'VE CONFIRMED WITH MOST OF THE UTILITIES IN THE AREA WHICH THEY'VE SAID THEY WILL HONOR THEIR WILL SERVE LETTER, WHICH IS GOOD.
GO TO ZOOM WITH IID ON FRIDAY.
THEY ACTUALLY WAITING FOR A NEW DEPOSIT OF $5,000 FROM US, AND THEY'LL JUST ABOUT FINISH THE PLANS.
WE'RE HOPING THEY'LL GET THE PLANS TO US WITHIN THE NEXT 30 DAYS OR SO.
ON THE BASIS THAT WE CHOOSE A GENERAL CONTRACTOR AND ALL THE REST OF THESE THINGS FALL IN PLACE WITHIN THE NEXT TWO TO THREE WEEKS, WE WILL THEN START FINALIZING THE FINANCING BASED UPON WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE MORE OR LESS.
AND THEN WE'LL GO OUT FOR A FULL BLOWN BID.
WE ANTICIPATE THAT WITH THE FINANCING, CLOSING, AND THE GENERAL CONTRACTING NEGOTIATIONS, TO TAKE APPROXIMATELY 90 DAYS.
SO REALISTICALLY THAT'S WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT.
AT THIS TIME THAT'S ALSO GETTING IN TO THE TIME OF THE YEAR WHERE WE'RE AT THE END OF THE YEAR IS NOT HELPING US.
AND COVID IS NOT HELPING US VERY MUCH EITHER.
BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S THE UP TO DATE POSITION AS IT STANDS UP TO DATE.
WE NEED TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE, EVELYN, FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
>> JUST TO CONFIRM FOR THE RECORD THIS ISN'T A PUBLIC HEARING ITEM.
DO WE HAVE ANY >> CAN I RECOMMEND PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVE RESOLUTION 1968 GRANTING A ONE TIME EXTENSION FOR THIS APPLICATION.
CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.
SO WE CAN MOVE ON TO STUDY SESSION ITEMS. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE ARE NONE.
[04:30:02]
DO WE HAVE ANY STAFF ITEMS?[11. STAFF ITEMS]
I JUST WANT TO KNOW, AND I JUST WANT TO CONGRATULATE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, YOU WILL HAVE THE LEGACY TO BE THE FIRST COMMISSION TO APPROVE THE DOWNTOWN SPECIFIC PLAN.
WHILE IT GOT KIND OF LOST ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, THAT'S A PRETTY EXCITING THING.
YOU GUYS HELPED SHAPE THAT IN YOUR INVOLVEMENT IN THE DOWNTOWN SPECIFIC PLAN.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE CAN'T REALLY CELEBRATE IT AND IT KINDA GOT LOST TONIGHT.
BUT IT'S ONE OF YOUR LEGACIES.
>> WHEN THE CORONA TIME IS OVER, I BELIEVE DIRECTOR SNYDER PROMISED EVERYBODY TO A BIG PARTY.
DO WE HAVE ANY COMMISSIONER COMMENTS? WE'RE ALL TOO TIRED.
I WILL GO AHEAD AND ADJOURN THIS MEETING.
OUR NEXT VIRTUAL MEETING IS SET FOR OCTOBER 14, 2020.
>> GOODNIGHT.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.