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>> GO AHEAD AND CALL THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THE CITY OF INDIO FOR OCTOBER
[1. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL]
28, THE 2020 VIRTUAL MEETING TOGETHER AT 6:00 P.M.IF WE COULD PLEASE HAVE ROLL CALL.
>> CHAIRPERSON DEPLORE YEAH FRANZ.
>> VICE CHAIRPERSON JACQUELINE LOPEZ.
>> AND COMMISSIONER CORONADOO RODRIGUEZ CEJA.
WE WENT AHEAD AND WE HAVE ITEMS NUMBER 2, THE BROWN ACT, COMMISSIONER TRAINING.
NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO INTRODUCTION OF STAFF, PLEASE.
>> AND CHAIR, IF I COULD CLARIFY THAT THE COMMISSION HELD A SPECIAL MEETING AT 5:15 EARLIER THIS EVENING WHERE THAT GENERAL TRAINING WAS HELD.
AND WE'LL GO AHEAD NOW AND START WITH INTRODUCTION OF STAFF, PLEASE.
>> GOOD EVENING, MADAME CHAIRPERSON AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
TONIGHT WE HAVE KEVIN SNYDER, COMMUNITY DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR.
GUSTAVO GOMEZ, ASSISTANT PLANNER.
VANESSA CASTILLO, OFFICE ASSISTANT.
OF ZACH HEINSELMAN, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
MYSELF, LEILA NAMVAR, SENIOR PLANNER.
AND EVELYN BELTRAN, SECRETARY.
AND IF WE CAN GO AHEAD AND DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, AND IF COMMISSIONER YSIANO WOULD PLEASE LEAD US, AND I'M ASSUMING WE'LL HAVE THE FLAG UP IN A SECOND.
PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE SALUTE TO OUR FLAG.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, COMMISSIONER YSIANO.
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 5, STATEMENT FROM THE COMMISSION
[5. STATEMENT FROM THE COMMISSION SECRETARY]
SECRETARY.>> GENERAL RULES OF COURTESY FOR VIRTUAL MEETINGS ARE AS FOLLOWS.
2 THE VIRTUAL MEETINGS PARTICIPANTS MUST MUTE ALL LIVE STREASMG DEVICES TO A SLOID PLAYBACK WHEN SPEAKING.
MESQUITE PARTICIPANTS MUST MUTE THEIR MICROPHONE TO KEEP BACKGROUND NOW TIE MINIMUM WHEN NOT SPEAKING WHEN YOU'RE MICROPHONE IS NOT THAT COULD DETERIORATE ADDITIONAL NOISE.
POSITION YOUR CAMERA PROPERLY.
THE IF YOU CHOOSE TO USE A WEB CAMERA BE SURE IT IS IN A STABLE POSITION AND FOCUSED A EYE LEVEL IF POSSIBLE P IF YOU WILL BE SHARING CONTENT DURING THE MEETING MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE FILES OR LINKS READY TO GO BEFORE THE MEETING BEGINS.
MEMBERS FROM THE PUBLIC WISHING TO PROVIDE ORAL TESTIMONY MUST FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS ON THE AGENDA OR ONLINE IN ORDER TO PRESERVATIVE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR AGENDA OR NON-AGENDA ITEMS. MEMBERS FROM THE PUBLIC WISHING TO PROVIDE ORAL TESTIMONY HAVE THREE MINUTES TO PROVIDE ORAL TESTIMONY.
[6. STATEMENT FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY]
AND NOW WE HAVE A ITEM NUMBER 6, A STATEMENT FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY.THERE HAVE BEEN NO DIRECTIVES ISSUED TEMPORARILY HALTING LOCAL GOVERNMENT PROCESSING OF LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW APPLICATIONS AND/OR CONSIDERATION OF POLICY ACTIONS, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENTS, ZONING CODE AMENTSDS AND NEW OR AMENDED SPECIFIC PLANS, THEREFORE THE CITY OF INDIO CONTINUES TO ACCEPT AND PROCESS APPLICATIONS IN ACCORDING A WITH STATE AND LOCAL REQUIREMENTS.
CITY OF INDIO IS FOLLOWING GOVERNOR NEWSOM'S EXECUTIVE ORDERS N-25 AND N-20-PERTAINING TO THE BROWN ACT.
THESE ALLOW GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES TO HAVE MEETINGS VIA ELECTRICAL MESSAGE FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO SWERVE THE MEETINGS ELECTRONICALLY AS WELL AS PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT OR PUBLI TELEPHONICALLY OR OTHERWISE TELEPHONE CLAY.
ACCORDINGLY THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION ARE CURRENTLY CONDUCT SCHEDULED MEETINGS IN A VIRTUAL MEETING FORMAT.
THE CITY OF INDIO HAS IMPLEMENTED TECHNOLOGY SOLUTIONS THAT ALLOW MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO OBSERVE AND OFFER PUBLIC COMMENT AS WELL AS PUBLIC TESTIMONY DURING PUBLIC HEARINGS AT SCHEDULED PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS.
THE CITY IS PROVIDING PUBLIC FOR THE PROCESSING OF LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW APPLICATIONS AND/OR CONSIDERATION OF POLICY ACTIONS.
[7. PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA]
AND I WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 7, PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.[00:05:01]
DO WE HAVE ANY TODAY?>> THE STATEMENT IS FROM AN ANONYMOUS SOURCE FROM COACHELLA 365 AND IT READS AS FOLLOWS: I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO EXPRESS MY DISAPPOINTMENT ON NEWLY APPOINTED COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ FOR HIS HALF OF RECENT ARREST FOR DRUNK DRIVING.
THAT IS A TERRIBLE EXAMPLE TO SET TO THE PUBLIC.
IT WAS A SELFISH ACT THAT TAKES AWAY ALL CREDIBILITY.
COMMISSIONER CEJA IT COULD HAVE BEEN A CHILD, IT COULD HAVE BEEN A FAMILY, IT COULD HAVE BEEN A SENIOR CITIZEN ON.
EVEN MORE DAUNTING IS THE POSSIBILITY THAT IT COULD HAVE BEEN MY FAMILY OR SOMEBODY ELSE'S WHOLE LIFE THE ON LINE BECAUSE YOU DECIDED TO GET BEHIND THE BHEEM BEING AN A POIMENT POINTED MEMBER OF THE CITY OF INDIO IS A GREAT HONOR BUT COMES AT A GREAT RESPONSIBILITY.
I HOPE YOU GET THE HELP YOU NEED AND USE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DPREAS THEY HORRID AFFECTS DRUNK DRIVE.
WITH ALL THE PROBLEMS THE COUNCIL HAS HAD IN THE PAST WITH COUNCILMAN ORTIZ'S 23 PRIOR PICK, I THINK THE CITY RECONSIDER A MORE THOROUGH INVESTIGATE VETTING PROCESS.
THESE ARE AMBASSADOR OF THE CITY OF INDIO.
I ITS NOT A POPULARITY CONTEST.
IT IS UP TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO REMOVE AND REPLACE CITY COMMISSIONERS THAT LESSEN INCREDIBLE FABRIC WE LOVE AS INDIO.
ESPECIALLY FOR A PLANNING COMMISSIONER, HOW IS A COMMISSIONER SUPPOSED TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY WHEN EVERYTHING ABOUT THE POOR CHIESES OF THE PEOPLE YOU THE COUNCIL APPOINT.
THIS DRUNK DRIVING ACCIDENT DOES NOT JUST REFLECT ON THE COMMISSIONER.
IT REFLECTS ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE COUNCIL.
IT'S HORRIBLE TO THINK THIS PERSON WAS THE BEST INDIO OFFERS.
I SUGGEST THE COUNCIL ASK THE COMMISSIONER TO RESIGN.
CONCERNED CITY OF INDIO RESIDENT.
AND THAT COMPLETES PUBLIC COMMENT.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY MINUTES SO NOTHING FOR ITEMS NUMBER 8 AND WE WILL MOVE ON TO
[9.1 The 52 Ranch – Tentative Tract Map 19-10-478 and Environmental Assessment 19-11-545]
PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. ITEM 9.1.THE 52 RANCH TENTATIVE TRACT MAP 19-10-478 AND ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT 19-11-545.
AND IF WE CAN HAVE A STAFF REPORT, PLEASE.
>> GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONER.
MY NAME IS ROSIE LUA I'M ASSOCIATE PLANNER WITH OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
SO THE PROJECT IS THE 52 RANCH.
THE 52 RANCH PROJECT INCLUDES A TENTATIVE TRACT MAP, TENTATIVE TRACT MAP IN YOUR OWN 37756, AND AN ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT.
THE PROPOSED LOCATION OF THIS PROJECT IS ABOUT 4100 FEET NORTH OF AVENUE 38 AND ON THE EAST SIDE OF ADAMS STREET, AN EAST AS WELL AS THE PALM DESERT COMMUNITY.
THE ZONING FOR THIS TENTATIVE TRACT MAP IS EQUESTRIAN ESTATES.
TO HAVE A DENSITY OF 2.0 UNITS PER ACRE WHICH ALSO ALLOWS EQUESTRIAN USES.
THE PROPOSED PROJECT IS 34.84 ACRES, AND IT'S PROPOSING 49 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS WITH EQUESTRIAN COMMON AREAS.
STAFF TODAY, THOUGH, IS REQUESTING THAT THE ITEM BE CONTINUED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S REGULAR MEETING OF NOVEMBER 25TH, 2020, AT THE REQUEST OF THE APPLICANT TO ALLOW ADDITIONAL TIME TO EXECUTE AGREEMENTS BETWEEN THE APPLICANT AND THE SUN CITY PALM DESERT COMMUNITY.
IT IS ALSO PROPOSED THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR PUBLIC TESTIMONY BUT TAKE NO ACTION AT THIS TIME AND CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING TO NOVEMBER 25, 2020 AT 6:00 P.M.
THAT CONCLUDES MY STAFF REPORT AND THE APPLICANT IS ALSO HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF AT THIS TIME OR SHOULD WE WANT TO MOVE ON TO OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT? NO COMMENT.
SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON AND OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND WE CAN HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME IF HE WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.
>> WE SHOULD HAVE RICH VAUGHAN AND EMILY ELLIOTT.
THIS IS EMILY WITH MICHAEL BAKER INTERNATIONAL.
WE HAVE PREPARED THE ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT FOR THE PROJECT.
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THERE'S QUESTIONS ON ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE.>> SO THE APPLICANT, I'M NOT SURE IF RICH VAUGHN IS ALSO REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.
WE PROVIDED THE WITH A LETTER FROM THE APPLICANT AND THEIR REQUEST WAS TO CONTINUE THE ITEM.
THEY'RE WORKING WITH THE SUN CITY PALM DESERT COMMUNITY ON A EASEMENT FOR SEWER CONNECTION AND ALSO THEY'RE ALSO WORKING WITH AN AGREEMENT FOR A COVENANT.
ON THEIR PROPOSE PROJECT THAT WOULD INCLUDE SOME ITEMS LIKE RESTRICTIONS OF TWO-STORY HOMES AS WELL AS SOME OTHER RESTRICTIONS OF EQUESTRIAN FACILITIES OTHER THAN LOTS, AND SO THAT'S AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN SUN CITY AND THE APPLICANT AND WE'RE JUST GIVING THEM MORE TIME TO EXECUTE THOSE AGREEMENTS.
MR. VAUGHN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT THIS TIME? I CAN'T HEAR YOU.
I THINK WE'RE HAVING SOME TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY SO WE'RE GOOD.
DID WE HAVE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME?
>> THE FIRST ONE IS FROM VANESSA VI SERRA AND THE STATEMENTS ROLDZ.
GOOD EVENING, PLANNING COMMISSION.
I WOULD LIKE FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO DMORT MOVING THIS PROJECT FORWARD AS PREVIOUS GENERALLY 2040 MEETINGS IT IS NOTED AS A STATED GOAL.
I SPECIFICALLY REMEMBER CRITICISM FROM CITY PLANNING AND THOSE WORKING ON THE GENERAL PLAN ON THE AMOUNT OF GATED PRIVATE COMMUNITIES.
HOW DOES THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS ITEM 9.4 DRIEWB TO CONNECTED NEIGHBORHOODS IF AGAIN A DEVELOPMENT IS A GATED AND PRIVATE COMMUNITY AND MY 26 OTHER CONCERN WITH THE BUILDING OF PRIVATE COMMUNITIES IS THE EXCLUSIVITY TO SURROUNDING LANDS WITH THE INCREASE OF PRIVATE COMMUNITIES BEING BUILT AT THE DOORSTEPS OF OUR WILDERNESS AND LANDSCAPE IS THAT THEY'RE OFTEN EXEMPT FROM COMPLYING WITH ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS AND OFTEN RESULT IN THE RESTRICTED ACCESS TO PUBLIC LANDS.
I WOULD ASK FOR THE COMMISSION TO CONSIDER THESE FOR AFFORDABLE MULTI-FAMILY HOMES.
>> ANY COMMENTS OF FROM THE COMMISSIONERS AT THIS TIME OR QUESTIONS OR WE CAN JUST GO AHEAD AND HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM.
>> CHAIR, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO THE NOVEMBER 25TH PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
>> I'LL GO AHEAD AND SECOND THAT.
CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
>> COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ CEJA.
[9.2 Lupian’s Commercial Building – Design Review 20-01-469]
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO ITEM 9.2, THE LUPIAN'S SPECIAL BUILDING DESIGN REVIEW 20-01-469.DO WE HAVE A STAFF REPORT, PLEASE.
>> MADAME CHAIRPERSON, IF I MAY, I'D LIKE TO APOLOGIZE.
I FORGOT TO INTRODUCE NIKKI GOMEZ, ASSISTANT PLANNER, THE IN BEGINNING, SO I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE HER RIGHT BEFORE HER ITEM.
>> GOOD EVENING, MADAME CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
I HOPE YOU CAN HEAR ME AND SEE MY SCREEN, IF FULL VIEW.
BEFORE YOU TONIGHT THE LUPIAN'S COMMERCIAL BUILDING CASE FILE NUMBER DESIGN REVIEW 20-01-469.
THE PROJECT IS LOCATED AT SOUTHWEST CORNER OF AVENUE 45 AND PALMER STREET ON A .
IT IS ON INDUSTRIAL PARK WITH A GENERAL PLAN DESIGNATION OF WORKPLACE AND EMPLOYMENT DISTRICT.
THIS IS A SITE PLAN, AND FROM HERE YOU CAN SEE THE PLACEMENT OF THE PROPOSED BUILDING, AND THAT IS A 5,000 SQUARE FEET MULTI-TENANT THREE-UNIT BUILDING.
THE ENTRANCE, ONE OF THE ENTRANCES IS FROM AVENUE 45.
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WITH PARKING SPACE AND A RETENTION BASIN RIGHT AT THE CORRIDOR OF AVENUE 45 AND COMMERCE STREET AS WELL AS AN ENTRANCE FROM COMMERCE STREET WITH CELEBRATED PARKING SPACES AND CONCRETE SLAB TO SUPPORT THAT USE.AND THE USE THAT IS BEING PROPOSED IN THIS SPACE RANGES FROM WHAIRGING, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND AUTO RELATED USES.
THE PARKING SPACE WHERE THIS FACILITY IS, 11 PARKING SPACES, AND, OF COURSE, A LANDSCAPING BEING PROPOSED AT THE CORNER -- ON THE CORNER OF AVENUE 45 AND COMMERCE.
THE FLOOR MAN SHOWS THE DIVIDED TENANT SPACE RANGING FROM 1,674 SQUARE FEET TO 1,651 SQUARE FEET.
AND EACH OF THESE TENANT SPACES, AS IT SAYS NEEDED OFFICE AND RESTROOM WITH AN ENTRANCE FROM THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY AS WELL AS TO THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY, AND THAT'S WHERE THE ROLL-UP DOORS AND ACCESS TO THE REAR YARD ARE.
AS FOR THE ROOF PLAN, OF COURSE, EACH OF THESE TENANT SPACES WILL HAVE ITS OWN ROOFTOP EQUIPMENT.
THAT IS A CONDITION TO BE SHIELDED FROM PUBLIC VIEW.
28 THE APPLICANT HAS INTRODUCED A DIFFERENT TYPE OF TEXTURING STUCCO TO KIND OF BREAK AWAY FROM THE SIMPLE BUILDING FACADE THAT WE TYPICALLY SEE IN THE INDUSTRIAL PARK AREA.
SO DIFFERENT TYPES OF TEXTURES, SLANTED DETAILING WITH SHADE STRUCTURE OVER THE TENANT SPACES OVERLOOKING THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY, AND THAT SHADE STRUCTURE IS CONTINUED TO THE SIDE, AS I COULD SHOW YOU ON THE NEXT SLIDE.
SIMILARLY AT THE REAR PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, THIS IS WHERE THE ROLL-UP DOORS ARE LOCATED AS WELL AS ENTRANCE FROM THE REAR PORTION OF THE BUILDING, AS WELL AS METAL SHADING.
TO THE EAST OF THE -- THE EAST ELEVATION, THIS IS THAT CORNER STREET ALONG COMMERCE STREET.
THAT EXTENSION OF THE DESIGN IS EXTENDED, AS YOU CAN SEE, AS YOU KIND OF TURN THE CORNER AS WELL AS THAT SHADED AREA CONTINUING TO THE SIDE.
THE WEST ELEVATION, THAT IS ABUTTING THE EXISTING INDUSTRIAL BUILDING CALL MCINTYRE POOL, SO THAT WOULD JUST BE ABUTTING ANOTHER PROPERTY.
AND THIS IS KIND OF ANOTHER VIEW INCORPORATING THE PROPOSED BLOCK WALL THAT THEY WILL BE PROPOSING TOGETHER WITH THIS BUILDING.
THIS IS THE FRONT ENTRANCE ELEVATION AS YOU CAN SEE.
THE BACK WALL WILL BE NEARING THAT SAME COLOR TO ADD A LITTLE BIT OF VISUAL INTEREST AS WELL AS PILASTERS BREAKING UP THAT BLOCK WALL.
THIS IS AT THE CORNER OF COMMERCE STREET AND AVENUE 45 WITH THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPING.
AND FOR THE LANDSCAPING, SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT IS DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT THE FRONT PORTION OF THE PROPERTY AS WELL AS THAT CORNER ALL THE WAY TO COMMERCE STREET, AND THAT INCLUDES SHRUB RIS OF PURPLE LANTANA, RED YUCCA, GREEN CARPET AND JEWEL OF THE PALMS AND MESQUITE.
SO WE WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 19-71, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF INDIO, CALIFORNIA, CONDITIONALLY APPROVING DESIGN REVIEW 20-01-469 TO CONSIDER THE ARCHITECTURE SIGHT MAN PLAN, LANDSCAPING FOR A MULTI-TENANT INDUSTRIAL COMMERCIAL BUILDING WITH THREE UNITS TOTALING 5,000 SQUARE FEET WITHIN A .
46-ACRE LOT SUBJECT TO THE FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL HEREIN AND DETERMINING THAT THE PROJECT IS EXEMPT FROM THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT, CEQA GUIDE LINES SECTION 15332 CLASS 32 INFILL DEVELOPMENT.
I AM HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS, AND ALSO THE APPLICANT IS WITH US, A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE APPLICANT IS WITH US TO ALSO ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF AT THIS TIME?
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COMMISSIONER CEJA.A LOT OF TIMES WE SEE 6-FOOT HIGH BLOCK WALLS IN COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL AREAS ARE 8-FOOT PERMITTED.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF AT THIS TIME? NO.
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME.
DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE ANYTHING THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH US?
I'M JUST PRETTY MUCH HAPPY TO PRESENT THIS PROJECT TO YOU GUYS, GIVING IT A LITTLE BIT OF A MODERN INDUSTRIAL LOOK WITH THIS BUILDING.
WE ARE ON A CORNER LOT SO WE DID GO A DIFFERENT OPTIONS JUST TO GIVE YOU 30 SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S OUT THERE IN THE VICINITY AT THE MOMENT, TRY TO MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE INTERESTING USING DIFFERENT COLORS, USING A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF CANTILEVERED ROOFS, SOME C CANTILEVER AWNINGS ALSO, GIVE A DIFFERENT INDUSTRIAL LOOK IN THE BACK.
IN THE FRONT WE HAVE A LITTLE MORE DIFFERENT TYPE OF A MORE OF A COMMERCIAL OFFICE LOOK.
GET SOME POP-OUTS TO BREAK THE SCHEME OF THE BUILDING SO IT WOULDN'T LOOK BORING.
WE DO HAVE THAT NICE BLOCK WALL WITH THE SPLIT FACE BLOCK WHICH I THINK MAKES IT PRETTY INTERESTING.
IT WILL ALSO BLOCK ANYTHING THAT'LL BE IN THE VIEW BECAUSE WE ARE ON A CORNER LOT.
I THINK WE ALSO DID A GOOD CHOICE WITH THE LANDSCAPING, WITH THE DESERT SCAPE.
I'M JUST HOPING THAT YOU LIKE AND IT THAT IT'S GOING TO WIN BY A LANDSLIDE.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT OR STAFF AT THIS TIME?
>> MAYBE JUST ONE RELATED TO THE ARCHITECTURE.
WITH YOUR DESIGN, I DON'T KNOW IF NIKKI CAN BRING UP THE FRONT ELEVATION, THE POP-OUTS THAT YOU'RE SHOWING ON THE BUILDING, I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF YOU KNEW THE DEPTHS OF THOSE.
>> THOSE ARE JUST -- THE POP-OUTS THAT ARE NEXT TO THE DOORS, THOSE ARE JUST, THEY'RE 24 BY 24.
JUST PRETTY MUCH TO BREAK -- SO WE DON'T HAVE A STRAIGHT LINE OF WALL.
IT'S PRETTY MUCH JUST COSMETIC JUST TO BREAK THE EYE.
>> ON THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, THE ARCHITECTURE, THERE'S ALMOST LIKE A BAND, SO NOT THE AWNING BUT THERE'S A MATERIAL CHANGE THAT HAPPENS ON THAT FRONT ELEVATION.
>> YEAH, THAT'S A CANTILEVERED ROOF SO IT'S ACTUALLY LIKE A FLOATING ROOF ON TOP.
>> I BELIEVE THAT IS 8 FEET POPPED OUT FROM THE FACE OF THE BUILDING.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANYONE? NO? WE'RE GOOD? OKAY.
SEEING NO OTHER QUESTIONS, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC -- DO WE HAVE ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTER -- OR DO I HAVE A MOTION?
>> CHAIR, THIS IS ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY HEINSELMAN.
I THINK YOU FROZE FOR A SECOND.
ON MY END IF YOU DON'T MIND REPEATING WHAT YOU WERE SAYING.
YES, I JUST WANTED TO SAY IF THERE WERE NO MORE QUESTIONS AND NO ONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, WE CAN CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME AND MOVE ON TO DELIBERATIONS.
DO WE HAVE COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS OR ANY QUESTIONS OR A MOTION?
>> I JUST WANT TO COMMENT OVERALL, ARCHITECTURALLY THIS IS A VERY NICE-LOOKING FOR BUILDING.
I'M EXCITED TO SEE A QUALITY TYPE BUILDING COME INTO THIS AREA.
AND EVEN SPENDING TIME AND LOOKING AT THE PERIMETER WALL, ALTHOUGH 8 FEET SPLIT FACE WITH PILASTERS IS A GOOD DESIGN, IT WILL SCREEN THE DISTILLER USES 4 ANY STORES THEY MAY HAVE IN THE BACK.
I JUST WANT TO BASICALLY AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER CEJA.
I THINK IT'S A VERY NICE-LOOKING FOR BUILDING FOR A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
WE'RE GRATEFUL THAT'S WENT THE EXTRA STEP TO MAKE IT LOOK INTERESTING AND DIFFERENT, AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT ADDITION TO THAT LITTLE PART OF OUR CITY.
SO IF THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS, DO I HAVE A MOTION AT THIS TIME?
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DID I FREEZE AGAIN?>> CAN WE PUT THAT SCREEN BACK UP.
>> NIKKI, THE ONE WITH THE MOTION.
>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 1971, CONDITION APPROVING DESIGN RERUE 20-01-469 TO CONSIDER THE ARCHITECTURE, SITE PLAN, CIRCULATION, PARKING AND LANDSCAPE FOR THIS SITE AND DETERMINING THAT THE PROJECT IS EXEMPT FROM CEQA.
IF I CAN HAVE ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
>> COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ CEJA.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING THAT PROPERTY WITHIN THE CITY OF INDIO.
[9.3 Chandi Plaza – Tentative Parcel Map 20-09-405]
20-09-405.DO WE HAVE A STAFF REPORT, PLEASE.
>> CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME NOW? I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
GOOD EVENING, MADAME CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANL COMINGS.
NAMES GUSTAVO GOMEZ, ASSISTANT PLANNER, AND BEFORE YOU IS THE CHANDI PLAZA TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP NUMBER 37-974 I WAS KPM 20-09-405.
AND THE PROJECT IS LOCATED ON A TRIANGLE PARCEL LOCATED NORTH OF FRED WARING AND AVENUE 44 AND INDIO BOULEVARD RUNS TOWARD THE NORTH OF IT.
THE ZONING IS COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL AND THE GENERAL PLAN IS MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD.
A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND FOR THE PROJECT, ON OCTOBER 8 THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVED THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND THE DESIGN REVIEW FOR THE FOUR BUILDINGS WHICH ARE THE CONVENIENCE STORE, THE DRIVE-THROUGH, THE RETAIL -- A RETAIL BUILDING, DRIVE-THROUGH CAR WASH AND THE ASSOCIATED FUEL STATION.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO -- THE -- THEY SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION TO SUBDIVIDE THE PARCEL, SO THEY WILL BE SUBDIVIDED INTO THREE LEGAL PARCELS FOR COMMERCIAL, COMMERCIAL USE.
AS YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THE SCREEN, PARCEL 1 WILL CONTAIN THE CONVENIENCE STORE AND FUEL STATION.
PARCEL 2 WILL CONTAIN THE DRIVE-THROUGH AND THE RETAIL RESTAURANT.
AND PARCEL 3 WILL CONTAIN THE CAR WASH.
THE APPLICANT HAS ALSO BEEN CONDITIONED TO ALLOW FOR RECIPROCAL ACCESS AND PARKING AMONG ALL THE THREE PARCELS.
AND WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES MY STAFF REPORT AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 19-70.
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF INDIO, CALIFORNIA RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THE TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP NUMBER 37974, CASE NUMBER TPM 20-09-405 TO SUBDIVIDE A AN EXISTING PARCEL OF LAND 34 TO THREE LEGAL LATS ARE LOTZ FOR COMMERCIAL USE SUBJECT TO THE FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL THEREIN AND DETERMINING THAT THE PROJECT IS CATEGORICALLY
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EXEMPT FROM THE REQUIREMENTS OF CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT CEQA EXECS 15332 INFILL DEVELOPMENT AND 15, 1-5 FOR MINOR LAND DIVISIONS.THAT CONCLUDES MY STAFF REPORT AND STAFF AND THE APPLICANT ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMISSION MIGHT HAVE.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, GUSTAVO.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF AT THIS TIME? NO? WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
AND WE'RE AVAILABLE TO HEAR FROM THE DEVELOPER AT THIS TIME IF THEY'RE INTERESTED IN SPEAKING TO US.
>> SO ON BEHALF OF THE CHANDI PLAZA TEAM AND THE CHANDI GROUP DAUGHTERS THAT ARE HERE WITH ME TONIGHT, THANK YOU FOR TAKING A LOOK AT THIS, AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE NO COMMENTS.
WE'RE ANXIOUS TO GET THIS PROJECT STARTED, AND THIS IS JUST ONE MORE STEP IN MOVING FORWARD.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT OR STAFF AT THIS TIME? COMMISSIONERS? NO? OKAY.
ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON THIS ITEM?
THE FIRST ONE IS FROM KAREN, AND IT READS AS FOLLOWS.
: COMMISSIONERS, I AM A RESIDENT SCRG ASKING TO YOU OOH SPHOP THE APPROVAL OF CHANDI PLAZA.
3 RESIDENT BUT ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO LIVE YOU OF MONROE BY ADDING AN 80TH GAS PUMP BETWEEN THE STOP N GO OF FAST FOOD LIGHTS EXB CONGESTION OUR COMMUNITY DOES NOT NEED ANY MORE UNMITIGATED POLLUTION.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND MY URGENT REQUEST.
THE NEXT ONE IT'S FROM VANESSA AND IT READS AS FOLLOWSMENT.
GOOD EVENING, PLANNING COMMISSION.
ONE CONCERN WITH THIS ITEM IS THE EXEMPTION TO COMPLY WITH THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT WHEN OUR IMPACTS WITHIN THE NEXT SEVEN YEARS ARE CRITICAL TO THE FUTURE AND CURRENT STANDING OF OUR MOST VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES DURING CLIMATE CHANGE.
ANOTHER CONCERN IS THE LACK OF STUBZ FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.
HOW WILL THE CONVENIENCE STORE FUEL STATION, DRIVE-THROUGH STATION AND CAR WASH ADD TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD? THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T NEED ON THE GAS STATION WITHIN TWO MILES OF OUR SIX OTHER STATIONS.
INDIO IS KNOWN FOR ITS EMPTY STOREFRONT AND COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS.
WE NEED TO PRIORITIZE THE USE OF WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE INSTEAD OF INVESTING IN MORE TOXIC DEVELOPMENT.
AND KEVIN AND ZACH, WAS I SUPPOSED TO READ THAT OTHER ONE? I WASN'T SURE.
>> THE DISTRICT HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE THAT DURING THE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD AND THE COMMENT DOESN'T ADDRESS THIS SPECIFIC ITEM ON THE AGENDA, SO NO FURTHER ACTION ON THAT IS REQUIRED, MS. BELTRAN.
>> THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS ITEM.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT OR STAFF AT THIS TIME? IF NOT, CAN I HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE.
I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION.
I'M TRYING TO PULL IT UP ON MY PHONE, THE FILE.
>> SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 1970, WHICH IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL A REVENUE A PENTIVE PARCEL THAT.
NUMBER 37974, TPM "20/20" 09-405 TO SUBDIVIDE AN EXISTING PARCEL OF LAND INTO THREE LEGAL LOTS FOR COMMERCIAL USE, USES SUBJECT TO THE FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL THEREIN, AND DETERMINING THAT THE PROJECT IS CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT FROM THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CALIFORNIA SPHRIERMTAL QUALITY ACT, CEQA, SECTIONS 15332 INSTILL IF YOU WILL DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS AND 135 -- I'M SORRY, 15315 MINOR LAND DIVISIONS.
>> THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR LOPEZ.
>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER YSIANO.
IF WE CAN PLEASE HAVE ROLL CALL.
>> COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ CEJA.
AND NOW WE CAN MOVE ON TO ITEM -- >> THANK YOU.
WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO ITEM 9.4, MONTE VINA CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 20-08-1061 AND
[9.4 Monte Vina – Conditional Use Permit 20-08-1061 and Design Review 20-08- 476]
DESIGN REVIEW 20-08-476.IF WE CAN PLEASE HAVE STAFF REPORT.
I'M WAITING TO SHARE MY SCREEN.
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I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE RIGHT SCREEN.
AGAIN MY NAME IS ROSIE LUA I'M ASSOCIATE PLANNER HERE WITH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
I BRING BEFORE YOU THE MONTE VINA PROJECT.
IT IS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 20-08-1061 AND DESIGN REVIEW 20-08-476.
THIS PROJECT IS LOCATED SOUTH OF AVENUE 44, EAST OF GOLF CENTER PARKWAY, WEST OF DILLIONY ROAD AND NORTH OF THE I10 FREEWAY.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS PROJECT IS SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL PROJECT TO THE NORTH, WHICH IS TERRA LAG OH, RESIDENTIALLY ZONED PROPERTIES TO THE EAST AND WEST.
IT'S ALSO BOUNDED BY THE INDIO SPRINGS RV RESORT WHICH WAS PREVIOUSLY CALLED THE HAPPY WANDERER.
IT ABUTS DIRECTLY TO THE EAST AS WELL AS TRIBAL LAND AND THE FANTASY SPRINGS CASINO TO THE SOUTH.
I TRANSPOSED THE APPROVED TENTATIVE TRACT MAP THAT INCLUDES 300 LOTS ONTO THE PROJECT SO YOU CAN SEE THE PROXIMITY OF THE CURRENT LOTS -- THE CURRENT PROJECT, WHICH IS THE INDIO SPRINGS, NEXT TO THE LOTS THAT ARE FOR THE MONTE VINA PROJECT.
SO THE MONTE VINA PROJECT IS A TENTATIVE TRACT MAP 31562 THAT WAS PROVED BY CITY COUNCIL MAY 5, 2004.
THE FINAL MAP WAS RECORDED APRIL 10, 2007.
SO THERE'S LEGAL LOTS ON ALL 300 OF THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOMES.
THE IMPROVEMENTS REQUIRED BY THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION 6852 REMAIN VALID.
I HAVE SOME PICTURES HERE SO YOU CAN SEE SOME IMPROVEMENTS THAT TOOK PLACE ON THIS PROJECT DATING BACK TO 2007.
SO I HAVE TWO APPLICANTS, GORDON AND W.S.
MOHAVE INVESTMENTS THAT HAVE COMMITTED A DESIGN REVIEW AND A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO CONSTRUCT 300 HOMES SO THE DESIGN REVIEW IS FOR ARCHITECTURE AND LANDSCAPE OF ALL THREE HUNDRED, AND THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS FOR TWO-STORY HOMES THAT ARE WITHIN 150 FEET OF RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.
SO ALL OF THESE LOTS AND THE BOUNDARY WOULD REQUIRE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THE HIGHLIGHTED LOTS ARE OWNED BY D.R.
HORTON AND UNDER THE HIGHLIGHTED LOTS ARE OWNED BY THE BEFORE S.
IN ADDITION, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING A CONDITION OF APPROVAL TO RESTRICT LOTS 138, WHICH IS THIS LOT HERE, ALL THE WAY TO 150, RESTRICTING TWO-STORY HOMES ON THESE LOTS, AND THESE ARE THE LOTS THAT ARE ABUTTING THE INDIO SPRINGS RV RESORT.
SO IN TERMS OF ZONING, THIS PROJECT IS A RESIDENTIAL LOW WITHIN OUR INDIO MUNICIPAL CODE.
SO THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ARE SECTION 159120 OF OUR INDIO MUNICIPAL CODE.
SO THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS ARE A MAXIMUM OF 18 FEET FOR A SINGLE STORY HOME AND A MAXIMUMCH 25 FEET FOR TWO-STORY HOMES.
WE HAVE EVALUATED THIS PROJECT TO ENSURE THAT THE FLOOR PLANS THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED ARE WITHIN THE REQUIRED HEIGHT, AS WELL AS THE REQUIREMENT UNDER THE RL ZONING IS AT FOUR BEDROOMS OR LESS REQUIRE A MINIMUM OF A 20 BY 20 UNOBSTRUCTED GARAGE.
AND THE FLOOR PLANS THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED MEET THAT REQUIREMENT.
AS ILLUSTRATION, I HAVE HOORAY TYPICAL LOT.
THIS IS LOT 5 THAT ABUTS THE WESTERN BOUNDARY.
THE SETBACK FOR THE FRONT TO THE GARAGE IS 20 FEET, AS INDICATED -- -- HERE THE MINIMUM FRONT OF THE STRUCTURE TO THE FRONT OF STRUCTURE IS 15 FEET.
3 5-FOOT MINIMUM SIDE YARD AND 15 FEET TO THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY.
THE SETBACKS WILL BE REVIEWED DURING THE PLAN CHECK PROCESS AT THE PRECISE RATE PLAN, AND PLANNING REVIEWS THOSE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE HOUSES THAT ARE PLATTED WIN EACH LOT MEET THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS.
SO HERE ARE TWO OF THE FOUR ELEVATIONS.
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THIS IS A SINGLE-STORY STRUCTURE.THE SINGLE-STORY STRUCTURE IS 1,898 SQUARE FEET, AND THE HEIGHT IS 17 FEET BY 7 INCHES IN HEIGHT.
AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE FLOOR PLAN, THERE ARE FOUR BEDROOMS AND A TWO CAR GARAGE.
I HAVE HERE JUST AN ILLUSTRATION OF ONE OF THE NINE COLOR SCHEMES WITHIN THIS PROJECT.
THE SET PLAN 2 IS A TWR THOUSAND 239 SQUARE FOOT -- 2,239 SQUARE FOOT AND ITS WHICH MEETS THE REQUIREMENT OF THE HEIGHT.
THERE ARE THREE THEMES PROPOSED.
EACH ELEVATION, EACH PLAN INCLUDES PRE-ELEVATION.
SO THERE IS A SPANISH THEME, A TUSCAN THEME, AND AN ITALIAN THEME.
SO EACH PLAN INCLUDES EACH ONE OF THESE THEMES.
SO THE FINISHES ON THESE HOMES INCLUDE STUCCO, EXTERIOR WALLS, SHUTTERS, STONE VENEERS, WOOD FASCIAS, ART, DECORATIVE FOAM ACCENTS AND THE CONCRETE TILE ROOFS.
THE PLAN 3 AGAIN WITH THE THREE THEMES, AND THIS PLAN MEASURES 2,277 SQUARE FEET, 24 FEET 8.5 INCHES HEIGHT AND IT'S ALSO FOUR BEDROOM AND A TWO CAR GARAGE.
IT IS A 2,435 SQUARE FOOT PLAN, 24 FEET 9 INCHES IN HEIGHT.
THE STREET FRONTAGE LANDSCAPE INCLUDES DESERT SCAPE.
IT DOES HAVE CLUSTERS OF THREE WITH TREES.
AS YOU CAN SEE HERE MORE ILLUSTRATIVE.
WE HAVE IT'S A GATED COMMUNITY, AND WE HAVE A WATER FEATURE AND TWO MONUMENTS.
AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THESE ARE THE MONUMENTATION SIGNS PROPOSED WITH ROCK AND STONE MONUMENTS, AND THESE ARE GATES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED.
THESE ARE WROUGHT IRON AND SPLIT FACE WALL.
FOR LOT E, WHICH IS WITHIN THE INTERIOR OF THE PROJECT, IT IS A 2.52-ACRE COMMON AREA THAT INCLUDES CONCRETED WALKWAYS, A SHADED STRUCTURE, PRECAST CONCRETE TABLES, TWO POLE MOUNTED BARBECUE FACILITIES, A PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT WITH PRECAST CONCRETE BENCHES.
HERE AND ALSO A HALF COURT AND OUTDOOR EXERCISE EQUIPMENT.
IT ALSO IS LIT BY MOUNTED LIGHTING, POLE LIGHTING THROUGHOUT THE LOT E.
THIS HERE ARE THE TYPICAL FRONT YARDS.
OUR INDIO MUNICIPAL CODE REQUIRES A MINIMUM OF 20% OF FRONT SETBACKS FOR A YARD AREA MUST BE PLANTED WITH LIVE PLANT MATERIAL.
THE TYPICAL LOTS THAT ARE PROPOSED MEET THAT REQUIREMENT.
THE REMAINDER MAY BE ROCK, GRAVEL, BARK OR NATURAL NON-LIVING MATERIAL.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY HAVE PROPOSED GG FOR THE DESERT SCAPE HAVE A MINIMUM 20% REQUIREMENT.
WITH THAT, I HAVE SUBMITTED A MEMO WITH THREE CONDITIONS.
YOU RECEIVED THIS MEMO EARLIER TODAY AS WELL AS THE ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
WE ARE ADDRESSING PERIMETER WALLS IN THESE CONDITIONS.
THE APPLICANT HAS RECEIVED A COPY OF THESE CONDITIONS AS WELL AND HAS AGREED TO THEM.
SO WE HAVE NEW CONDITION OF APPROVAL NUMBER 3 SECTION E.C WHICH IS THE BUILDING PERMIT OF THE RESOLUTION NUMBER 1959.
IT READS, THE PERIMETER WALLS OF LOTS 138 THROUGH 150 AND LOT B SHALL BE 41 INSTALLED, AND THERE IS A CORRECTION FROM "AT" TO "BY." THE TIME OF ISSUANCE OF THE FIRST CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOCH ANY OF THE LOTS HEREIN PER THE APPROVED UP UPGRADING FOR LOOT 31562 DATED MARCH 15, 206 AND AS STATED IN THE INDIO MUNICIPAL CODE SECTION 159 .
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241 REMEMBER REVISION TO THE SITE APPROVALS WITHIN THE APPROVED ROUGH GRADING PLAN SHALL REQUIRE APPROVAL BY THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR AND THE CITY ENGINEER.THIS IS TO ADDRESS THE PERIMETER WALL ALONG THE ABUTTING -- THE INDIO SPRINGS RV RESORT.
THE NEXT CONDITION IS A REVISION TO CONDITION NUMBER 5 THAT'S ALREADY IN THE RESOLUTION 1959.
THE ORIGINAL CONDITION READS, THE APPLICATION INSTALL BLOCK WALLS AT THE PERIMETER OF THE MONTE VINA TO BE DECORATIVE IN NATURE WHEN VISIBLE FROM PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY AS REQUIRED PURSUANT TO SECTION 159641.
THE PROPOSED REVISION WILL ADD "AND AS PROPOSED BY ROUGH GRADING PLANS FOR TRACT NUMBER 31562 DATED MARCH 15, 2006, THE PERIMETER BLOCK WALL OF LOTS 1 THROUGH 16 AND 90 THROUGH 99 SHALL BE INSTALLED BY THE ISSUANCE OF THE FIRST CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY." THIS IS TO ENSURE THAT PERIMETER CALLS WALLS OF THOSE LOTS ARE BUILT FIRST AND THAT THE DEVELOPER COMPLETES THE PERIMETER WALL BY THE TIME THERE'S AN ISSUANCE AFTER THAT FIRST CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.
AND THE NEXT CONDITION THAT WE'RE ADDING IS CONDITION NUMBER 9 FOR SECTION D WHICH IS PRIOR ON THE ISSUANCE OF A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY TO ENSURE SECURITY AND THUS CONTROL THE DEVELOPMENT PRIOR TO THE COMPLETION OF LOT E, RECREATIONAL COMMON AREA, THE PERIMETER WALL OF THE PROJECT AS REQUIRED BY INDIO MUNICIPAL CORD PRESENT AN INTERIM FENCING WALL LAN FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL BY THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR AND THE CITY INDIO MUNICIPAL CODE CHAPTER 152 DUST CONTROL.
AND THIS IS TO ADDRESS IN CASE THE DEVELOPER DOES NOT PURSUE THE REMAINDER OF THE LOTS SO THAT THERE IS SOME ENCLOSURE WITH SOME SORT OF WALL OR FENCING IN THE INTERIM BEFORE OR THE DEVELOPER DEVELOPS THE ENTIRE PERIMETER WALL WITH THIS PROJECT.
SO WE HAVE REVIEWED THESE AND PRESENTED THESE TO THE APPLICANT AND THEY HAVE ACCEPTED THE CONDITIONS.
AND THE APPLICANT IS ALSO HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
AND THAT CONCLUDES MY STAFF REPORT.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF AT THIS TIME? NO ONE? COMMISSIONER YSIANO, YES, NO? NO.
SO I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR YOU, ROSIE.
YOU SAID TO RESTRICT, SO THERE WOULD BE NO TWO-STORY HOUSES ALONG THAT EDGE OF WHAT USED TO BE THE HAPPY WANDERER LOCATION?
>> IF I MAY, CAN I GO BACK TO THE SLIDE?
>> THAT WAY I CAN SHOW YOU AN ILLUSTRATION.
SO IF WE GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN, THEY ARE LOTS 138 TO 150 WOULD HAVE A RESTRICTION OF ONLY SINGLE STORY HOMES, SO THESE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO HAVE TWO STORY HOMES OR PULL PERMITS FOR TWO STORY HOMES.
AND THAT'S A CONDITION OF APPROVAL WITHIN RESOLUTION NUMBER 1958, AND THAT IS OCCURRING IN THE RESOLUTION NOW.
SO -- >> ALSO IT HATS BEEN REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE APPLICANT.
>> SO THE CONDITIONAL USE REQUEST FOR THE TWO STORIES IS FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
>> I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WASN'T MISUNDERSTANDING SOMETHING THERE.
IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS OF STAFF, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME AND WE ARE MORE THAN HAPPY TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.
I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO STAFF, APPRECIATED THEM GUIDING US THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND OUR GOAL HERE WAS TO PRESENT SOMETHING AS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED AS POSSIBLE.
SO WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS BUT I THINK ROSIE DID A TREMENDOUS JOB OUTLINING WHAT OUR INTENTIONS ARE.
SO WE HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF OR THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME?
>> COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ CEJA, PLEASE.
>> I'M WONDER FINANCING ANY OF THESE 300 SINGLE FAMILY UNITS INCLUDE IN SORT OF LOW-INCOME HOUSING.
>> I BELIEVE THEY'RE ALL MARK RATE BUT YOU CAN ASK THE APPLICANT -- MARKET RATE
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BUT YOU CAN ASK THE APPLICANT FOR ANY PRICE POINTS OR ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH PRICING, BUT THEY'RE, AS FAR AS ANYTHING THAT'S TIED TO THE TENTATIVE TRACT MAP, NO.>> OUR INTENTION IS MARKET RATE, WHICH IN THAT MARKET, DEPENDING ON HOW YOU DEFINE AFFORDABLE, BUT, NO, WE DID NOT INTEND TO HAVE ANY RESTRICTIONS ON AFFORDABLE REQUIREMENTS, AND OUR PRICING ISN'T SET YET.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON THIS ITEM?
THE FIRST ONE IS FROM BRIAN SMITH, AND -- SMITH, AND I'LL START -- JUST ONE SECOND.
>> WE ARE OWNERS OF LOT NUMBER 748-4250 INDIO STRINGS PARKS WAY WITHIN THE INDIO SPRINGS RECREATIONAL RESORT COMMUNITY.
OUR PROPERTY DIRECTLY JANET TO THE PROD MONTE VINA DIVISION.
WE HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE PREVIOUS APPLICANT'S SAND DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION THE PUBLIC HEARING MISSION OF APRIL BE 2007.
THIS IS IN ADDITION TO THE RELEVANT TO THE PREVIOUS APPLICANT RELEVANT TO LOTS 138 TO WANT 50 WHICH DIRECTLY ABUT INDIO SPRINGS RECREATIONAL RESORT.
WE KNOW THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING COMMISSION AT THE TIME SUPPORTED THE STAFF REPORT TO PLACE A CONDITION OF APPROVAL REGARDING TWO STORY HOMES AT THAT TIME.
WE ARE OPPOSED TO THE SUBDIVISION SUBMISSION BY THE CURRENT APPLICANT D.R.
MOHAVE INVESTMENT WITH RESPECT TO CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AS IT RELATES TO LOTS 138 TO 150.
THERE ARE SEVERAL REASONS FOR OPPOSITION.
GRADE ELEVATION LEVELS WITHIN MONTE VINA DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE EAST WALL, INDIO SPRINGS RECREATIONAL RESORT VARY BETWEEN 6 TO 7 FEET ABOVE THE GRADE LEVEL OF THE HOMES BUILT WITHIN INDIO -- I.RV AND RECOLLECTION RACE HALL RESORT COMMUNITY PARK TO THE BEPS ADDITIONALLY INDIO SPRINGS RESORT SINGLE STORY PARK MODEL HOMES THEMSELVES DO NOT HAVE CONSTRUCTED ROOF ELEVATIONS THAT EXCEED 12 FEET NOMINALLY FROM THE ISRV INDIO SPRINGS RESORT CONSTRUCTION GRADE.
THE WALL SURROUNDING INDIO SPRINGS PARK ON THE EAST WALL VARIES BETWEEN 4.5 TO 5 FEET PERMITTING TWO STORY HOMES DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO ANOTHER RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT REQUIRES A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT SINCE THERE ARE CONCERNS WITH CONFLICT AND USE.
4 WITH RESPECT TO TWO STORY HEIGHTS OF 25 FEET PLUS THE GRADE ELEVATION GAIN OF NOMINALLY 6 TO 7 FEET CREATES A HIGH CONFLICT OF 31 TO 32 FEET.
WE HAVE NOTED THAT THE CITY OF INDIO STAFF OR THE REPORTS HAS MADE A RECOMMENDATION ON A CONDITION OF APPROVAL WITH RESPECT TO LOTS 138 TO 150 AS THEY RECOGNIZED THE INEFFECTIVE IMPACTS ON PRIVACY AND USE.
THEREFORE, THE APPLICANT HAS APPLIED FOR CONDITIONAL USE MER 200-8261 TOOL HOW THE OPTION OF CONSTRUCTING TWO STORY HOMES WITHIN LOTS 1 THROUGH 16, LOTS 90 THROUGH 130 AND LOTS 138 TO 150.
HOWEVER, STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED A CONDITION OF APPROVAL TO RESTRICT TWO STORY HOMES IN THE ABUTTING LOTS INCLUSIVE OF LOTS 138 TO 150 DUE TO THE CONCERNS OF THE INDIO SPRINGS RECREATIONAL VEHICLE RESORT COMMUNITY ALSO KNOWN AS THE HAPPY WANDERER COMMUNITY.
INDIO SPRINGS REC RELAXED RESORT COMMUNITY IS LOCATED TO THE SOUTHWEST OF THE PROJECT WHICH INCLUDES A COMMUNITY OF RECREATIONAL VEHICLE TRAILERS, MOTOR HOME AND MODULAR HOMES.
THE INDIO STRINGS RECREATIONAL VEHICLE ROW CERTIFICATE HAS ASKED THAT THE RESTRICT THE LOTS ABUTTING THEIR PROPERTY.
THE PRIMARY CONCERNS OF TWO STORY VENTS IS ADJACENT TO ONE FORE RESIDENCES ARE POTENTIALLY -- A POTENTIAL NEGATIVE IMPACT OF PRIVACY BETWEEN NEIGHBORS AND THE OBSTRUCTION.
WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO CONTINUE? I HAVE MAYBE THREE OR FOUR SENTENCES.
>> THE PRIMARY CONCERNS OF TWO STORY RESIDENCES ADJACENT TO ONE STORY RESIDENCES OF THE POTENTIAL NEGATIVE IMPACT OF PRY VEINS BETWEEN COMOOSHES THE IF OAK INSTRUCTION OF VIEW OF HOMERS OF ONE STORY RESIDENCES NEXT TO TWO STORY RESIDENCES.
WE STRONGLY WISH TO ADD OUR SUPPORT TO REPORT THAT LOTS 138 TO 150 SHOULD NOT GRANTED A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT ALLOWING TWO STORY HOMES TO BE BILL.
WE REQUEST THIS LETTERS OF OPPOSITION BE READ ON THE COMMISSION MEETING.
PRIMARILY YOURS, BRIAN AND SANDRA SMITH.
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>> THE NEXT ONE IS FROM THE HAPPY WANDERER COMMUNITY FROM 8241 INDIO STRINGS DRIVE AND I'LL START MY TIMER.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR RECENT ACCOMMODATION REGARDING THE AVENUE 44 SUBJECT.
OUR PARK AS YOU KNOW IS LOCATED AT AT THE INDIO SPRINGS DRIVE, INDIO CALIFORNIA ADJACENT TO FANTASY SPRINGS CASINO.
WIENS FIND OURSELVES IN AN AREA OF INCREASING RESIDENTIAL GROWTH AND EVER CONCERNED REGARDING THE DEVELOPMENT AVENUE 44, A DEVELOPER D.R.
HORTON APPEARS TO BE BEGINNING TO BUILD NEW HOMES AS SOON AS THE AVENUE 44 LOCATION CALLED MONTE VINA.
WE ARE COMMUNICATING TO YOU AT THIS TIME TO EXPRESS INTEREST IN THE NEED FOR THE DEVELOPER D.R.
HORTON TO ADHERE TO AT LEAST THE MINIMUM SETBACK FROM THE EXISTING WALL TO THE SITTING -- SINGLE STORY HOMES PLANNED FOR LOTS 138 THROUGH 150.
THE SINGLE STORY HOMES DESIGNATED FOR THE LOTS REFERENCED IN THE RESOLUTION SEDATED IN THE YEAR 2007.
WE ARE ADVISED THAT THE 2007 RESOLUTION BEING BROUGHT FORWARD FROM THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPER LIMITING THE HOMES BUILT ALONG OUR EAST WALL AS BEING SINGLE STORY.
AS BEING AMENDED SOON TO INCLUDE THE NOW RECORDED AND DEFINED LOTS MENTIONED ABOVE AND WILL BE PUSHED SOON.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO A COPY OF THE AMEND PPED RESOLUTION AND CONTINUED SUPPORTIVE 2007 RESOLUTION AND WITH REGARD TO THE LOTS THEREIN.
LASTLY CAN YOU ADVISE ON THE HEIGHT OF THE WALL AT THE EAST SIDE OF OUR COMMUNITY ONCE THE ACTUAL BUILDINGS BEGIN.
4 MATTER AND THE ABILITY FOR US AS A COMMUNITY TO EXPRESS OUR CONCERNS REGARDING THE MONTE VINA DEVELOPMENT AND THE IMPACT OUR PARK.
>> THE NEXT ONE IS FROM MR. RICHARD AND PEGGY FORCIER.
AND THE MESSAGE READS AS FOLLOWS.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON THE DESIGN REVIEW OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT CALLED MOANLT OF WHICH WE ARE AN JANET LANDOWNER.
WE COMMEND THE DEVELOPER FOR THE PROJECT ON VACANT LAND AND WISH, WE HOWEVER TRONG I.
STRONGLY OPPOSE THE CONSTRUCTION OF TWO STORY HOUSES ALONG THEIR WEST BOARD, OUR EAST BROUGHT LINE.
THEIR DEVELOPMENT IS ALREADY AT A SIGNIFICANT HIGHER ELEVATION THAN HOUR LAND.
TWO STORY HOUSES WITHIN 100 FEET OF OUR WALL WOULD VIOLATE OUR RIGHT TO PRIVACY AND WITH SIGNIFICANTLY OBSTRUCT OUR STRIEWT EAST.
SINGLE STORY HOUSES WOULD BE MUCH MORE APPROPRIATE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
AND LET ME JUST REFRESH MY EMAIL JUST IN CASE WE HAVE MORE.
THE NEXT ONE IS FROM COACHELLA 365.
THE MESSAGE READS AS FOLLOWS: BEFORE YOU TAKE ACTION ON ITEM 9.4 PLEASE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION OUT I HOW A RECKLESS DRUNK DRIVER WILL.
GET RID OF ANY LIGHT POLES FOR DRIVERS OF COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ CEJA IS FAMILIAR.
AND AGAIN THAT CONCLUDES THAT PUBLIC COMMENT.
ZACH, DID YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS?
>> NOT AT THE MOMENT, MS. BELTRAN, BUT AFTER THIS HEARING ITEM, I'LL MAKE A 48 BRIEF COMMENT.
>> THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS ITEM, CHAIR.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR ANY QUESTIONS OF THE DEVELOPER OR STAFF AT THIS TIME BEFORE WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING?
>> JUST ONE FOR CLARIFICATION PURPOSES.
STAFF IS RECOMMENDING A CONDITION FOR SINGLE STORY HOMES ALONG LOTS 138 TO 150.
I CAN READ YOU THAT CONDITION IF YOU WOULD LIKE.
I JUST WANTED TO HAVE THAT CONFIRMED.
IT'S A RESOLUTION, I BELIEVE 1958 AND THEN WE ALSO CARRIED IT OVER TO 1959, AND ZACH CAN CONFIRM THAT.
I THINK WE'VE PUT IT ON BOTH, BOTH OF THOSE RESOLUTIONS.
AND THE DESIGN REVIEW AS WELL AS THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO? OKAY.
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
>> CHAIR, IF I MAY FOR A SECOND.
I CAN'T REMEMBER IF YOU OFFERED THE APPLICANT AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS ANY OF THE ISSUES RAISED IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE CLOSING THE HEARING, IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO DO.
WOULD THE PLANGT LIKE TO ADDRESS ANY OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE'VE HEARD HERE TONIGHT?
>> NO, WE WERE AWARE OF THE CONCERNS.
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AND CONSISTENT WITH THE PRIOR APPROVAL, WE AGREED TO SINGLE STORY HOMES ALONG THOSE LOTS.IF THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING IS IT AND MOVE INTO DELIBERATIONS.
DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS AT THIS TIME?
>> JUST THAT IT'S EXCITING TO SEE THIS TRACT THAT'S ALREADY BEEN ROUGH GRADED AND APPROVED, IT'S GETTING READY TO GEAR UP FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION.
IT SEEMS LIKE BOTH STAFF AND THE APPLICANT WORKING TOGETHER, HEARING THE CONCERNS OF THE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITY ARE ADDRESSING THEM THROUGH THE CONDITIONS BY LIMITING IT TO ONE STORY.
THAT SEEMS APPROPRIATE, AND I'M GLAD THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO COME TO THAT AGREEMENT.
BUT OVERALL I'M PRETTY HAPPY TO SEE A TRACT THAT'S BEEN SITTING THERE START DEVELOPMENT AGAIN AND GET SOME MORE UNITS IN THE AREA.
I JUST WANT TO ALSO STAY I'M EXCITED TO SEE THAT PROJECT COME TO LIFE AGAIN AND LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING THOSE HOUSES BE BUILT.
WE KNOW WE HAVE A SHORTAGE OF HOUSING, SO THIS IS GREAT FOR INDIO AND NOT JUST INDIO BUT THE WHOLE VALLEY.
DO I HAVE A MOTION AT THIS TIME IF I DID NOT HAVE ANY MORE COMMENTS?
>> MS. LUA, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO SHARE YOUR SCREEN WITHOUT THE FOLDER OPEN?
>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DON'T RESOLUTION NUMBER 1958 APPROVING A RESOLUTION FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT INCLUDING THE CONDITION TO LIMIT SINGLE STORY HOMES ON CERTAINLY LOTS ABUTTING NEIGHBORING PROPERTY.
WE HAVE ALSO THE ADDED CONDITIONS.
YOU FORGOT THE ADDED CONDITIONS.
>> INCLUDING -- >> THANK YOU, ROSIE.
>> INCLUDING THE ADDED CONDITIONS.
>> DO YOU WANT US TO LIST THEM?
>> I'M GOING TO REFER TO ZACH TO SEE WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO GET THESE APPROVED.
I WOULD RECOMMEND JUST, IF EITHER MS. LUA OR THE COMMISSIONER CAN JUST SPECIFY THE MOTION WOULD INCLUDE THE PROPOSED REVISIONS TO CONDITIONS NUMBER 3 AND SECTION C OF RESOLUTION 1959, THE REVISION TO CONDITION OF APPROVAL NUMBER 5 OF SECTION D RERESOLUTION 1959, AND THE NEW CONDITION OF APPROVAL 9 OF SECTION D OF RESOLUTION 1959 AS PRESENTED BY MS. LUA.
JUST TO CLARIFY THAT THOSE WERE PART OF THE INTENDED MOTION.
>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER YSIANO.
IF THERE'S NO MORE DISCUSSION WECK HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
>> COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ CEJA.
LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THAT PROJECT COME UP OUT OF THE GROUND.
DID WE DO BOTH RESOLUTIONS 1958 AND 1959?
>> I NEED ADOPT RESOLUTION MOTION.
>> I MOVE THAT WE ADOPT PLANNING RESOLUTION 1959 SUBJECT TO THE STAFF CHANGES PROVIDE IN THE MEMO EARLIER.
>> COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ CEJA.
NOW THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING THIS PROJECT COME UP OUT OF THE GROUND.
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 10.
AND WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER 11, ONE STUDY SESSION ITEM.
>> CHAIR, IF I MAY, I JUST WANTED TO STATE SOMETHING FOR THE RECORD.
THAT WE RECEIVED THE SAME COMMENT THAT PLANNING SECRETARY BELTRAN READ REGARDING THE LIGHT POLES AND IMPAIRED DRIVING.
THAT COMMENT, WE RECEIVED THAT FOR ITEM 9.3 AND 9.2 AS WELL.
THOSE COMMENTS WILL BE AND HAVE BEEN EMAILED TO YOU ALL AND ARE PART OF THE RECORD.
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THANK YOU.[11.1 Loma Linda University Health Sign – Project Consultation]
11.1, LOMA LINDA UNIVERSITY HEALTH SIGN, PROJECT CONSULTATION.>> SO GOOD EVENING AGAIN, COMMISSIONERS, AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
MY NAME IS GUSTAVO GOMEZ, ASSISTANT PLANNER.
BEFORE I HAVE A PROJECT CONSULTATION FOR AN URGENT CARE SIGN FOR THE LOMA LINDA UNIVERSITY HEALTH FACILITY.
SO THE PROJECT LOCATION IS LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF SOMEWHERE STREET AND CIVIC CENTER DRIVE.
THE ZONING FOR THE DOWNTOWN INDIO SPECIFIC PLAN.
THE PROPOSED LOCATION FOR THE ILLUMINATED POLE SIGN IS -- HERE'S THE SITE PLAN.
I JUST WANT TO SHOW THAT THE LOCATION FOR IT IS GOING TO BE COMPLETELY WITHIN THE PROPERTY OF THE LOMA LINDA UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL.
SO THE SIGN -- ACCORDING TO THE DOWNTOWN SPECIFIC PLAN, IT REGULATES SIGNS WITHIN THIS BOUNDARY, AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING AN ILLUMINATED POLE SIGN THAT IS NOT IDENTIFIED AS A PERMITTED BY RIGHT SIGN.
HOWEVER, THE SIGN COULD BE -- IT COULD BE PERMITTED BY APPROVAL OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION THROUGH A DESIGN REVIEW.
SO HERE IS THE PROPOSED -- THE PROGRESSION OR EVOLUTION OF THE SIGN.
SO THIS IS THE APPLICANT WORKING WITH STAFF.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE FAR RIGHT OR FAR LEFT FROM THE CORNER,, YOU CAN SEE THAT IT WENT FROM A CABINET BOX SIGN, AND THEN WORKING, THE APPLICANT WORKING WITH STAFF IT TOOK ON A DIFFERENT APPROACH, SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE COMMENTED TO THE APPLICANT WAS TO USE SOME OF THOSE DESIGN DETAILS THAT ARE KIND OF PROMINENT INSIDE THE LOMA LINDA FACILITY, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, THE DARK COLORS, THE GLASS, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE MASSING THAT THE BUILDING HAS AND KEEP THE CONTEMPORARY MODERN LOOK OF IT.
5 SHOWING YOU HOW IT WOULD LOOK LIKE FROM THE STREET.
AND YOU CAN SEE AT THIS POINT WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THE APPLICANT THAT WE'RE PROPOSING, WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT THEY GO WITH A SMALLER SIGN SO THAT IT KIND OF IS MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY OR IT ENHANCES THE PUBLIC REALM.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT DUE TO THE NATURE OF THE BUSINESS, BECAUSE IT'S AN URGENT CARE, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE -- WE'RE SUPPORTIVE OF A 10-FOOT SIGN BUT WE ARE HERE BEFORE YOU AND THE APPLICANT AND STAFF ARE SEEKING THE COMMISSION'S FEEDBACK ON THE ILLUMINATED POLE SIGN FOR THE DESIGN, THE HEIGHT AND LOCATION PRIOR TO A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS PROJECT.
SO I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS ON THE LINE AND THAT CONCLUDES MY STAFF REPORT, AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
>> DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME OF STAFF BEFORE WE TALK TO THE APPLICANT? NO? OKAY.
WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.
THIS IS CURTIS SHARP WITH LOMA LINDA UNIVERSITY HEALTH, AND I BELIEVE I HAVE JIM CROSS WITH BEST SIGNS ON THE LINE.
I'LL LET YOU TALK ABOUT THE ARCHITECTURE ASPECT OF THE SIGN AND THEN I CAN ADD SOME FEW COMMENTS AT THE END.
YEAH, WELL, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THE FUNCTIONALITY OF THE SIGN IS PROBABLY EVERY BIT AS IMPORTANT AS THE AESTHETICS, BUT OBVIOUSLY BY LOOKING AT THIS SLIDE, WHAT WE STARTED OFF WITH AS A SIGN STANDARD THAT WE ACTUALLY -- THE SIGN THAT YOU SEE ON THE LEFT, WE ACTUALLY INSTALLED AT ONE OF THE LOMA 54 LINDA CAMPUSES BECAUSE THEY HAD SIGNAGE STANDARDS, AND STAFF KIND OF CHALLENGED US TO KIND OF
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COME BACK WITH SOMETHING THAT WAS A LITTLE MORE -- THAT HAD A HIGHER LEVEL OF DESIGN.AND I'M GLAD THAT THEY DID BECAUSE I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY IT IS A MUCH BETTER LOOKING SIGN.
IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, I THINK THAT STAFF LIKES IT AS WELL, AND THE ONLY ISSUE NOW IS THE OVERALL HEIGHT.
AND THE OVERALL HEIGHT IS GOING TO BE AN ISSUE.
IF WE HAVE TO BRING IT DOWN BELOW 10 FEET, IT'S NO LONGER GOING TO BE A POLE SIGN AT THAT POINT.
IT'S GOING TO BE MORE OF A MONUMENT SIGN.
WHERE THE SIGN IS LOCATED, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF LANDSCAPE, AND THESE VERTICAL DOTTED LINES THAT YOU SEE THERE SHOWS THAT WE HAVE 6 INCHES OF CLEARANCE ON EACH SIDE FOR THAT, FOR THE AREA FOR THE PEDIATRIC URGENT CARE MESSAGE TO NOT EXCEED BEYOND THE SIDEWALK OR INTO THE DRIVEWAY.
SO THE IMAGE ON THE FAR RIGHT, YOU KNOW, IT PEEKS A LITTLE OVER 12 FEET.
SO THE MORE WE BRING THAT IMAGE DOWN, WE'RE A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED ABOUT IT BEING MORE ACCESSIBLE.
WE ARE A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED ABOUT THE ISSUE OF CLEARANCE.
IT'S NOT TECHNICALLY WHERE SOMEONE COULD -- IT'S NOT TECHNICALLY PERHAPS WHERE IT HAS TO BE 6.8 AND THAT HORIZONTAL DOTTED LINE IS REALLY MINIMUM HEIGHT THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO HAVE A SIGN.
IT'S NOT ENTIRELY IMPOSSIBLE THAT SOMEONE RIDING A BICYCLE OR SOMETHING, SWERVING AND NOT PAYING ATTENTION.
SO ALL OF THE ITERATIONS PRIOR HAD US WITH THAT CABINET OR THAT RED RECTANGULAR AREA AT 8 FEET TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CLEARED EVERYBODY AND ALSO WE WANTED TO DISCOURAGE ANY OPPORTUNITIES OF ANYBODY BEING ABLE TO WRITE ON THE SIGN WITH A SHARPIE OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.
IF WE DROP IT 2 FEET, I WOULD PROBABLY DESIGN A DIFFERENT SIGN BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO LOOK QUITE A BIT DIFFERENT.
SO THAT'S KIND OF MY -- THE SIGN MAN'S TWO CENTS, AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
>> I THINK THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT I'D ADD IS THAT MOST PEOPLE COMING TO URGENT CARE ARE LOOKING FOR IMMEDIATE MEDICAL ASSISTANCE, AND THOUGH WE KNOW WE'RE IN A PEDESTRIAN TYPE OF DISTRICT, 99% OF THE PEOPLE COMING TO THE CLINIC ARE GOING TO BE DRIVING, AND WE WANT THE SIGN UP A LITTLE HIGH TO WHERE THEY CAN POTENTIALLY SEE SOMETHING FROM JACKSON STREET, SO IF WE START LOWERING THE SIGN A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, I THINK WE START LOSING SOME OF THE EFFECTIVENESS AS FAR AS CUEING MOTORISTS.
BUT I THINK JIM COVERED ALL THE OTHER POINTS VERY WELL.
AND SO IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION COULD WEIGH ALL THOSE COMMENTS AND SEE WHERE WE END UP, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE POTENTIAL AT THE SIGN BEING AT LEAST HAVING A 7-FOOT CLEARANCE TO WHERE FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT WE NEVER HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ANYBODY HITTING THEIR HEAD ON IT IF THEY HAPPEN TO BE ON A BIKE SINCE THE SIGN DOES COME OUT RIGHT TO THE EDGE OF THE SIDEWALK, AND AT THE SAME TIME IT IS A PRETTY SLIM SIGN TO BEGIN WITH, SO I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE TOO OVERPOWERING.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW FROM THE COMMISSIONERS EITHER FOR STAFF OR THE DEVELOPER?
>> I HAVE A COUPLE, AND MAYBE FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE APPLICANT AND OUR NEWER COMMISSIONER AS WELL, AS A DESIGN CONSULTATION, IT'S A BIT LESS FORMAL.
WE CAN GO BACK AND FORTH ON SOME OF OUR COMMENTS.
I REALLY WANT TO THANK CITY STAFF AND MR. CROSS THERE FOR WORKING ON A SIGN THAT I THINK LOOKS QUITE ATTRACTIVE, AN WE'VE BEEN PUSHING BACK ON A LOT OF OTHER SIGNS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN UP TO THIS STANDARD.
SO I WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR REALLY PUSHING BACK AND LOOKING FOR A BETTER DESIGN ON THIS.
I WANT TO BE -- MAYBE A QUESTION FOR KEVIN OR GUS.
THE DOWNTOWN PLAN SAYS -- WE DON'T HAVE ANY STANDARDS, I GUESS, OTHER THAN A DESIGN REVIEW BY PLANNING COMMISSION.
SO I THINK THE PLANNING COMMISSION TODAY IN LOOKING AT THIS DESIGN CONSULTATION, MAYBE WE'RE SETTING A PRECEDENT IN WHAT KIND OF STANDARDS WE COULD WO APPLY
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FOR TALLER SIGNS IN THE DOWNTOWN AS THIS IS THE FIRST SIGN TO COME FORWARD.WITH THAT SAID, I THINK MR. SHARP'S COMMENT IS WHERE I WAS LOOKING.
YOU'RE IN A DOWNTOWN ENVIRONMENT.
I'M SURE THAT'S WHY YOU WOULD NEED SUCH A TALL SIGN.
YOU HAVE A BEAUTIFUL ELEGANT BUILDING LOCATED ON A CORNER WITH A STOP SIGN.
I WAS CURIOUS WHY YOU WOULD BE LOOKING FOR SUCH A TALL SIGN FOR THAT AREA, BUT I THINK YOU EXPRESSED YOUR INTENT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE OFF JACKSON STREET TO BE ABLE TO SEE IT.
>> AND THEN I'M CURIOUS ABOUT YOUR CLIENTELE, HOW MANY NEW VISITORS DO YOU HAVE LOOKING FOR URGENT CARE OR ARE THEY RETURNING CUSTOMERS THAT ALREADY KNOW WHERE THE BUILDING IS?
>> I BELIEVE THE CLINIC JUST SAW A NEED FOR SERVICES AND EXTENDED HOURS.
I THINK IT'S A COMBINATION OF TRYING TO SERVE THE ELLEN GENERAL PUBLIC IN YOUR AREA KNOWING THERE'S A NEED FOR IT.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE ARE A LOT OF CLINIC PEOPLE THAT DO COME IS ON THE CLINIC THAT ARE NEED EXTENDED HOURS FROM US IN ORDER TO GIVE MORE SERVICE.
WE'VE LEAN OPENING OTHER CLINICS IN OTHER LOCATIONS.
IT SEEMS TO BE A TREND AND WE'RE TRYING TO FULFILL THAT NEED IN ORDER TO SERVE YOUR COMMUNITY BETTER.
>> COULD I ASK, GUSTAVO, COULD YOU GO TO PREVIOUS SLIDE WHERE SHOWED THE SIGN AND THAT LANDSCAPE AREA.
ONE OF THE REASONS IT'S NOT THAT ANYBODY WANTS TO HAVE THIS TALL SIGN BUT THE REASON WHY WE DESIGNED THE SIGN THE WAY THAT IT IS IS BECAUSE THERE'S SO LITTLE SPACE THERE, AND SO WE -- THE LOWER IS THE SIGN GETS, THE HEAVIER AND BULKIER THAT IT GETS TOWARDS THE BASE, AND WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO KIND OF LANDSCAPE AROUND IT, AND IT JUST -- AND ACTUALLY IT LOOKS SMALLER WHEN IT HAS THIS SLENDER BASE.
AND SO AS WE START TO PUSH IT DOWN SQUATTIER, IT MAKES THAT LITTLE LANDSCAPE, YOU KNOW, AREA THAT -- -- WE HAVE, IT GIVES US LESS BLANK CANVAS AROUND IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MAKES SENSE TO YOU GUYS OR NOT, ABOUT IT JUST FEEL THAT IT NEEDS TO BE KIND OF SLENDER DOWN AT THE BOTTOM AND THEN GET OUR MESSAGE UP TOWARDS THE TOP.
>> FOR GUS OR KEVIN, SOMETIMES CITIES WILL PUT UP CITY SIGNS FOR RELIGIOUS FACILITIES, MAYBE MEDICAL FACILITIES.
DOES THE CITY HAVE ANY KIND OF STANDARD FOR SIGNS IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT WOULD BE MORE DIRECTIONAL TOWARDS A MEDICAL FACILITY?
>> I'M NOT -- THIS IS DIRECTOR SNYDER.
I'M NOT AWARE THAT THE CITY HAS SPECIFIC STANDARDS.
I HAVE SEEN THEM IN OTHER COMMUNITIES.
I MAY HAVE EVEN SEEN ONE THIS COMMUNITY.
WE CONSULTED WITH THE CITY ENGINEER TO SEE IF THAT MIGHT BE AN OPTION.
I THINK, MAYBE IF I COULD, THOUGH, ANSWER YOUR EARLIER COMMENT, THE DOWNTOWN SPECIFIC PLAN WAS NOT WRITTEN WITH THIS TYPE OF SIGN IN MIND BUT THERE WAS ALSO A RECOGNITION THAT WE COULDN'T COVER EVERYTHING, WHICH IS WHY THIS IS A DISCRETIONARY ACTION BY THE COMMISSION.
I THINK THAT STAFF IS UNDERSTANDING THAT THE NATURE OF THE OPERATION IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN MORE PRIVATELY-RUN TYPES OF THAT MIGHT EXIST CURRENTLY OR IN THE FUTURE.
5 ULTIMATELY MAKE A DISCRETIONARY DECISION ON THIS MATTER, I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S PRECEDENT SETTING IN THAT I DON'T BELIEVE THE COMMISSION IS BOUND TO MAKE SIMILAR DECISIONS IN FUTURE SHOULD IT BE RECEIVED BECAUSE THE SPECIFIC PLAN PUTS THE DISCRETIONARY DECISION IN YOUR CONTROL AND DOES NOT SPECIFICALLY PROVIDE THE STANDARDS SUCH THAT THE COMMISSION CAN MAKE THOSE DESIGNEE-RELATED DECISIONS.
BUT WE WOULD NEED TO -- AND WE CERTAINLY CAN DO THIS IN CONSULTANTTATION.
WE CAN CONSULT WITH THE CITY ENGINEER WITHIN RIGHT-OF-WAY DIRECTIONAL SIGNS, ALTHOUGH I'M SURE THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE THOUGHTS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THAT ASSESS THEIR DIRECTIONAL NEEDS.
>> IF I MAY, MADAME CHAIRPERSON, YES, THE CITY ALLOWS THOSE SIGNAGE WITHIN THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY, HOWEVER, THEY'RE VERY SMALL.
THEY'RE A VERY SMALL SIZE, AS YOU SEE ON INDIO BOULEVARD.
THERE'S SOME DIRECTIONAL SIGN THAT DIRECTS YOU TO CITY HALL.
BUT THEY ARE SO SMALL, SO THAT'S WHY DIRECTOR SNYDER HASN'T NOTICED THEM.
SO THIS IS PROBABLY WILL NOT SATISFY THEIR NEED.
SO AS HE MENTIONED, WE CAN BRING THAT BACK TO YOU AS WELL.
ANY MORE COMMENTS, COMMISSIONER CEJA? IN I'M JUST CURIOUS IF THERE'S BEEN OTHER ATTEMPTS WHERE A DRIVEWAY LOCATION IS
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FOR MORE DIRECTIONAL TYPE SIGNAGE RATHER THAN A TALLER POLE SIGN.I GUESS, YOU KNOW, WHAT I AM SENSITIVE TO IS IN THE DOWNTOWN WE'RE TRYING TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S A PEDESTRIAN ATMOSPHERE THAT'S CREATED, AND WE'VE BEEN PRETTY CRITICAL ON SIGNS IN THE PAST, PARTICULARLY AROUND HEIGHT AND DESIGN, ALTHOUGH I THINK THIS DESIGN OF THIS IS VERY NICELY DONE.
BUT GIVEN THAT WE'RE IN A DOWNTOWN LOOKING AT A PEDESTRIAN ENVIRONMENT, IF WE'RE REALLY -- IF WE SHOULD REALLY B DRAW TRAFFIC OFF JACKSON, I DON'T KNOW.
I'M THINKING MAYBE A SMALLER SIGN, MAYBE SOMETHING CLOSER TO THEIR DRIVEWAY, THAT IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR SOMEONE IN A CAR THAT DOESN'T KNOW WHERE THE FACILITY IS NOW HAS THAT DIRECTION TO TURN INTO THE DRIVEWAY RATHER THAN KIND OF OUT HERE WHERE YOU'RE NOT REALLY NEAR THAT DRIVEWAY.
>> I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO ASK SOMETHING.
THIS IS AN URGENT CARE FOR CHILDREN.
SO IMAGINE YOU HAVE A SICK KID OR THERE'S SOMETHING GOING WRONG AND YOU NEED TO GET TO THIS PLACE FOR THE FIRST TIME, AND THIS SIGN IN THE RED AND WITH THIS CONFIGURATION, IT WILL BE EASY TO FIND THAT DESTINATION, WHICH IS NOT A DESTINATION, BUT IT IS, IT MAKES IT EASY TO FIND IT, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE A STRESSFUL SITUATION, SO YOU CAN SEE IT AS OPPOSED TO SOMETHING LOWER WHEN YOU ARE IN THE CAR.
BUT AGAIN, AS YOU MENTIONED, YOU ARE SETTING A PRECEDENT BY REVIEWING THIS.
IF IT COULD HELP, AGAIN, THIS IS A USE WHICH IS AN URGENT CARE FOR THE CHILDREN, SO THINGS OF THAT NATURE, SOMETIMES IT MAY BE A LIFE STRESSING SITUATION, MAYBE IN THOSE CASES YOU ALLOW A LITTLE BIT HIGHER SIGN, BUT IF IT WAS A RESTAURANT OR A BAR, YES, OF COURSE, IT COULD BE A SMALLER SIGN BECAUSE IT'S NOT AS -- I SHOULD SAY IT'S NOT AS LIFE THREATENING SITUATION.
>> AND, CHAIR, IF I MAY ONE SECOND.
>> I WANTED TO CHECK IN AND SAY AT SOME POINT I KNOW WE'RE IN OUR STUDY SESSION HERE, NOT A HEARING, ABOUT IT WANTED TO SEE IF WE COULD CHECK AT SOME POINT ABOUT MS. BELTRAN TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS SUBMITTED ON THIS ITEM.
AGAIN AT YOUR DISCRETION WHEN THAT WOULD BE.
>> YES, WE'LL DO THAT BEFORE WE WRAP UP.
>> CHAIR, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE FOR APPLICANT'S BENEFIT, COMMISSIONER CEJA HAD USED THE WORD SMALLER SIGN.
WAS HE THINKING OF I MORE OF A MONUMENT TYPE SIGN JUST SO THE APPLICANT IS CLEAR?
>> I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A SITE PLAN THAT GUS HAS IN THE POWERPOINT HERE.
AGAIN, I WAS THINKING MAYBE A SMALLER SIGN, KEEP IT MORE PEDESTRIAN IN SCALE.
AND THEN YOU HAVE THAT DRIVEWAY THERE FURTHER TO THE EAST, IF MAYBE THAT'S A BETTER LOCATION SINCE THAT'S THEY ENTRY WHERE YOU'RE TRYING TO DRAW VEHICLE TRAFFIC.
YOU WOULD WANT THEM TO TURN IN AT THAT LOCATION SO MAYBE YOU'RE LOOKING AT A SMALLER MONUMENT SIGN TO DIRECT VEHICLES TO TURN RIGHT THERE.
>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS?
>> I WOULD JUST SAY, LEILA, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR POINTING THAT OUT BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THIS SENILITY IS THE ONLY FACILITY THAT -- FACILITY IS THE ONLY FACILITY THAT TREATS CHILDREN WITH CANCER, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PORTS, TEMPERATURE CHANGES, AND RATHER THAN DRIVING THE HOUR AND A HALF, TWO HOURS IT TAKES TO GET TO THE LOMA LINDA FACILITY.
I -- I'M KIND OF ON THE FENCE WILL MAKING A LITTLE BIT MUCH MORE TALLER OR A LITTLE BIT MORE BIGGER.
I KIND OF AGREE WITH THE APPLICANT, WHEN YOU'RE A PARENT AND YOU HAVE TO GET YOUR CHILD INTO THAT FACILITY.
THE LOCATION, I AM GOING ON THE COMMENTS FOR CLOSING, BUT THAT'S WHAT I KIND OF WANTED TO POINT OUT.
BUT I DO FEEL THAT IT SHOULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE TALLER AND MORE VISIBLE WHILE THEY'RE DRIVING INTO THE FACILITY.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I DO HAVE A FEW.
I REALLY FEEL COMMISSIONER CEJA'S COMMENTS HERE ABOUT WE WANT TO HAVE A CERTAIN TYPE OF SIGN IN DOWNTOWN, SOMETHING LOWER, BUT THIS IS KIND OF A UNIQUE SITUATION, SO I THINK IF WE ARE TALLER THAN WE WOULD NORMALLY WANT TO SEE DOWNTOWN, BECAUSE OF ITS USE, BECAUSE OF THE FACT
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THAT I DO AGREE WITH LEILA THAT WHEN YOU HAVE A SICK CHILD AND YOU ARE TRYING TO GET TO A FACILITY, YOU'RE ALREADY BEYOND STRESSED, AND A SIGN THAT'S LARGER THAN OTHER SIGNS IN THE AREA WOULD DEFINITELY MAKE IT EASIER TO SEE.I DO THINK THAT THE REDESIGN IS A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT FROM THE FIRST DESIGN, SO WE DO THANK YOU FOR THAT AND STAFF FOR THAT FOR MAKING SUGGESTIONS THAT WE ARE TRYING TO CREATE SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE INTERESTING THAN JUST A BASIC SIGN, BUT IT STILL HAS TO HAVE ITS ORIGINAL USE, WHICH IS SOMEONE BEING ABLE TO FIND IT WHEN THEY NEED IT.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS.
I THINK THE COMMENT -- RIGHT HERE.
THE SEVEN, THAT DOTTED LINE WHERE THE 7-FOOT IS WHERE WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT BICYCLES AND SOMEBODY MAYBE HITTING THAT WHEN WE DON'T WANT THEM TO, MAYBE THAT'S A MAGICAL NUMBER WHERE THAT RED PORTION OF THE SIGN IS AT 7 FEET.
AND THE REST OF IT IS BALANCED OUT TO WORK AT LEAST THAT'S WHERE I'M LEANING TOWARD.
HOW BIG WOULD THAT MAKE THE SIGN IF THAT RED BOX WAS AT 7 FEET? WHAT WOULD BE THE TOTAL HEIGHT OF THE SIGN ITSELF? DO WE KNOW THAT?
TO CLARIFY, THE DOTTED LINE IS 6-FOOT 8, AND THAT IS MINIMUM CODE.
SO YOU CAN SEE WE'RE JUST BELOW THAT.
AND MOST OF THE TIME WE DON'T WANT STEINS TO BE LESS THAN 7 FEET.
AND SO IF WE WERE TO MOVE THAT CABINET UP, WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 6 INCHES, AND SO BECAUSE OF THAT ANGULAR FASHION, WE COULD ARGUE AND SAY THAT MAYBE RIGHT NOW IT'S 11.5 FEET IF WE WERE JUST TO AVERAGE IT OUT, BUT THE SIGN WOULDN'T BE 14 FEET TALL.
WE WOULD JUST NEED -- THE SIGN WOULD INCREASE MAYBE 3-INCHES TALLER.
MAYBE WE CAN LOSE A COUPLE INCHES OF THAT RED AREA.
PERHAPS THE INTERNATIONAL RECOGNIZABLE SYMBOL COULD BE A LITTLE BIT SMALLER.
SO I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE TRYING TO -- WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH TWO THINGS.
WE WANT THE SIGN TO SHOW UP, BUT ALSO WE WANT TO DO OUR VERY BEST TO COME WITHIN COMPLIANCE AND WHAT THE CITY'S INTENT IS FOR THIS DOWNTOWN AREA.
SO I THINK THAT I CAN BRING THAT CABINET UP TO WHERE IT'S THAT 7 FEET WITHOUT INCREASING THE OVERALL HEIGHT BUT MAYBE ABOUT 4 INCHES.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'M INTERESTED IN.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REST OF THE COMMISSION FEELS ABOUT THAT MINOR CHANGE.
AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO SEE SIGNS LIKE THIS ALL OVER DOWNTOWN, BUT THIS IS A VERY UNIQUE USE AND THEY PROVIDE A VERY UNIQUE SERVICE NOT ONLY TO INDIO BUT TO THE ENTIRE COACHELLA VALLEY.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COME ON, GUYS.
I JUST WANTED FOR THE RECORD TO REMIND EVERYONE AND THOSE WATCHING THAT THIS IS JUST A PROJECT CONSULTATION.
>> THEY ARE NOT MAKING ANY DESIGN DECISIONS.
FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT UNDERSTANDING PROJECT CONSULTATION, NO DECISIONS ARE BEING MADE.
>> AND I APPRECIATE MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS.
I MAYBE ASK IF STAFF OR THE APPLICANT WOULD LOOK AT OTHER DIRECTIONAL SIGNS BECAUSE WHERE THE SIGN IS PLACED IS PAS DRIVE WAIVE SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT A DIRECTIONAL SIGNS INTO THE FACILITY.
>> WE ACTUALLY DID, BECAUSE WE WANTED TO PUSH THE SIGN MORE TOWARD THE ENTRANCE.
BECAUSE THE ACTUAL PARKING FOR THIS AREA, FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, ALMOST APPEARS TO BE TOWARDS THE BACK.
SO WE KNOW THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WANT TO PARK AS CLOSE TO THAT ENTRANCE AS THEY CAN.
AND CURRENTLY I WOULD BET THAT MOST PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO THIS FACILITY ARE MORE THAN LIKELY GOING TO PARK ON THE STREET.
THERE'S MORE STREET PARKING FOR THIS FACILITY THAN THERE IS WITHIN THE ACTUAL PARKING LOT, AND IF WE WERE TO LOOK AT THAT LITTLE SITE PLAN YOU'LL REALLY SEE THERE ISN'T MUCH PARKING.
SO WE CERTAINLY DID LOOK AT PULLING THE SIGN BACK TOWARDS THE ENTRANCE BECAUSE OUT OF DEFAULT YOU TYPICALLY WANT TO DO THAT.
BUT WE WERE A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED THAT ONCE AGAIN, BECAUSE MANY OF US DO HAVE CHILDREN, AND WHEN THEY GET FEVERS OR THEY'RE SICK OR WHATEVER, YOU'RE JUST NOT
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ALWAYS THINKING CLEARLY, SO WE WANTED TO PULL THE SIGN UP TOWARDS THE ENTRANCE TO MAKE IT REAL OBVIOUS WHERE THEY WERE GOING TO ENTER.AND, OF COURSE, IF IT'S MORE TOWARDS THE INTERSECTION, THAT'S GOING TO CAPTURE THE AUDIENCE FROM COMING FROM SOME OF THE OTHER CROSS STREETS.
>> AND MY COMMENT IS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THOSE DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGERS IN ADDITION TO SIGN THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT HERE SO YOU CAN DIRECT PEOPLE INTO THAT PARKING AREA THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR THEM.
>> I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY A VERY GOOD IDEA AND CERTAINLY IS GOING TO BE MORE NEEDED AS THAT AREA DOES GET BUILT UP, AS I'M SURE IT WILL.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR SUGGESTIONS AT THIS TIME?
>> NO SUGGESTIONS, BUT I DO LIKE THE THE SIGNS.
I THINK THAT I APPRECIATE STAFF WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT TO PUT TOGETHER SOMETHING THAT IS FUNCTIONAL AND STILL ATTRACTIVE FOR OUR DOWNTOWN AREA.
GOES WELL WITH THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE BUILDING.
DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC?
IT'S TWO EMAILS AND I'LL COMBINE THEM.
BEFORE YOU TAKE ACTION ON 11.1, TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION HOW A RECKLESS DRUNK DRIVER MAY RUIN THIS DEVELOPMENT.
PLEASE ASK IN THE DEVELOPER CAN GET RID OF ANY LIGHT POLES AS THEY'RE MAGNETS.
THE SECOND PART OF THIS IS READS AS FOLLOWS.
IS A SIGN ABLE TO TAKE THE IMPACT OF A CAR BECAUSE SIGNS ARE LIKE LIGHT POLES.
THAT CONCLUDES THAT STATEMENT.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR IDEAS FOR THE DEVELOPER FOR STAFF BEFORE WE MOVE ON FROM THE STUDY ITEMS? NO? OKAY.
WELL, I HOPE THAT THIS WAS HELPFUL AND GAVE YOU SOME IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE THINKING FOR THE DOWNTOWN, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING A SIGN BROUGHT BACK TO US FOR HOPEFULLY APPROVAL.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY JUST WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE YOU GUYS GETTING THIS ONTO THE STUDY SESSION.
I KNOW YOU STARTED IT AT 4:30 OR MAYBE EVEN A LITTLE BIT EARLIER.
YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS AND YOU DID, AND WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IT.
6 IMPORTANT TO INDIO AND THE COACHELLA VALLEY.
A COUPLE MORE ITEMS. WE'LL MOVE ON TO NUMBER 12, STAFF ITEMS.
BEFORE MOVING ON TO 12, I THINK THERE WAS POTENTIALLY ONE MORE COMMENT THAT MS. BELTRAN WAS GOING TO READ THAT WAS SUBMITTED DURING ITEM 11.
>> WAS THERE ANOTHER ONE, EVELYN? YOU HAD TWO.
>> THIS WAS A PART OF -- THIS WAS TWO EMAILS.
ZACH, DID YOU WANT ME TO READ THE REST?
>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I DIDN'T MISCOUNT WHAT YOU NOTED ME ABOUT.
>> SO FOR ITEM 11, THERE WAS A SECOND SECTION WHICH READS, FROM COACHELLA 365, I NEED THIS AND ALL OTHER COMMENTS READ INTO THE RECORD.
THIS IS AGAINST MY CIVIL LIBERTIES.
I WILL BE REACHING OUT TO THE MYER AND COUNCIL.
THIS IS A VIOLATION OF MY RIGHTS.
AND THAT CONCLUDES ALL COMMENTS.
ZACH, ARE WE GOOD TO MOVE FORWARD?
>> YEAH, I BELIEVE THAT WAS ALL OF THE COMMENTS RECEIVED UNLESS THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR CONSIDERATION OF ITEM 11.1.
I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO HAVE ANY DISCUSSION TO MOVE ON TO ITEM 12.
LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM 12, THE STAFF ITEMS.
[12. STAFF ITEMS]
THANK YOU.>> LEILA, DO YOU WANT TO GO FIRST?
A COUPLE OF ITEMS. ONE IS WE, PLANNING STAFF HAS FINALLED OR SIGNED OFF ON ARBY'S RESTAURANT WHICH
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IS IN THE PALMS SHOPPING CENTER, AN TOLD US THEY ARE PLANNING TO OPEN AS EARLY AS NEXT WEEK SO THAT'S ANOTHER GREAT ADDITION TO THE NORTH PART OF THE CITY AND TO THE CITY AS A WHOLE.THE OTHER ITEM THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE IS OUR AGENDAS.
IT LOOKS LIKE WE WILL HAVE TOWARD THE END OF THE YEAR ON EACH PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING WE WILL HAVE THREE TO FOUR ITEMS IN OUR AGENDAS.
WE ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SAY NOVEMBER 11TH WE WON'T HAVE A PLANNING COMMISSION BECAUSE IT'S A HOLIDAY.
HOWEVER, WE WANT AND WOULD LIKE TO HOLD THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON NOVEMBER 25TH, THE DAY BEFORE THANKSGIVING, AND BASED ON THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE, WE COULDN'T AFFORD TO LOSE THAT DAY AS WELL.
AND WE DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING BECAUSE WE WANTED TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF OFF TIME TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS WELL.
SO WE WANT TO -- WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE -- I'M SORRY, NOVEMBER 25TH MEETING.
THAT CONCLUDES MY ITEMS. THANK YOU.
ONE, JUST WANTED TO ADVISE THE COMMISSION THAT WE HAVE DISIEWTD SCOOTD A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH THE CONSULTANT TEAM FOR THE HIGHWAY 111 CORRIDOR SPECIFIC PLAN AND THAT PROJECT WILL BE KICKING OFF HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO.
AND THE PROJECT KICKOFF MEETING.
AND THEN WE HOPE TO MAKE OUR WAY TO THE COMMISSION NOT TOO FAR DOWN THE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH YOU AS WELL.
THE CONSULTANT TEAM IS LED BY BAE URBAN ECONOMICS, AND THEY'VE COMPILED A VERY ROBUST TEAM OF PLANNERS, ECONOMISTS, ENGINEERS, AND ALSO PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT INDIVIDUALS.
SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.
NEXT WEEK WE ARE GOING TO BE TAKING A CONTRACT TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR OUR 67 HOUSING ELEMENT UPDATE, AND THIS IS THE FOLLOW-UP TO OUR GENERAL PLAN WORK, OUR HOUSING IS CURRENTLY CERTIFIED, HOWEVER, IT'S FOR THE FIFTH CYCLE OF THE REGIONAL HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT, AND SO WE ARE NOW IN THE SIXTH CYCLE, AND SCAG, THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF GOVERNMENTS HAS WE NEED TO A COUPLE DO IT 7,793 NEW HOUSING UNITS IN EIGHT YEARS IN OUR COMMUNITY SO WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING WITH THE COMMISSION, THE COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY TO PUT TOGETHER THE UPDATED HOUSING TO TRY TO ADDRESS HOW WE CAN DO THAT.
SO THAT HOPEFULLY WILL KICK OFF IN NOVEMBER AND AGAIN WE HOPE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION IN THE NEAR FUTURE WITH THE COMMISSION ABOUT THAT AS WELL AS COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY.
THIS HAS A PRETTY AGGRESSIVE TIMELINE BECAUSE WE ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE OUR HOUSING ELEMENT ADOPTED BY OCTOBER 2021, SO -- AND THIS WILL ALSO HAVE AN INTERESTING COMPONENT BECAUSE WE'RE ALSO GOING LOOKING AT WHAT WE CALL PRO HOUSING POLICIES, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE GRANT THAT'S FUNDING THIS, WE ASKED FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.
THIS WILL GIVE THE CITY THE POTENTIAL TO GET FUTURE GRANT FUNDING IF THESE STRATEGIES, THESE POLICIES AND STRATEGIES ARE ULTIMATELY ADOPTED.
AND THEN THE LAST THING IS THIS, AS YOU MAY OR MAY NOT BE AWARE -- I'M GOING TO SHARE MY SCREEN FOR A SECOND -- THE CITY HAS BEEN IMPLEMENTING A NEW PROGRAM CITYWIDE, AND WE WANTED TO MAKE THE COMMISSION AWARE OF IT AND ALSO THE PUBLIC TO SUPPORT OUR BUSINESSES THROUGH THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC.
WE HAVE UTILIZED FEDERAL FUNDING THROUGH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM TO PROVIDE PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT SPECIFICALLY MASKS AND GLOVES FREE TO OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY, AND SO WE LAUNCHED THIS PROGRAM IN LATE SEPTEMBER.
WE DID A SOFT LAUNCH TO MAKE SURE WE WORKED OUT THE KINKS.
WE'RE GOING TO BE GETTING MORE GETTING THE WORD OUT BUT WE WANTED TO LET THE COMMISSION KNOW ABOUT IT AND IF YOU KNOW BUSINESSES IN COMMUNITY THAT WOULD BENEFIT FROM THIS, WE HAVE THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS OF GLOVES AND MASKS, AND ON THE MASK FRONT WE ACTUALLY GOT AN ADDITIONAL 50,000 FROM RIVERSIDE COUNTY RECENTLY.
THIS IS INTENDED TO HELP OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY THROUGH THIS CHALLENGING TIME AND PRESERVE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC SECURITY OF OUR COMMUNITY.
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SO PLEASE HELP US GET THE WORD OUT IF YOU COULD.AND IF YOU KNOW OF ANY BUSINESSES THAT MAY BE INTERESTED IN THIS, THEY CAN GO TO THE CITY WEBSITE AND THERE'S INFORMATION THERE THAT THEY CAN CONNECT TO THE STAFF THAT ARE IMAGINING THIS SPECIFICALLY BEING RUN BY JUAN RODRIGUEZ WHO IS A DEVELOPMENT ANALYST AND OUR HOUSING AND NEIGHBOR SERVICES DIVISION AND JUAN IS DOING AB AMAZING JOB GETTING THE WORD OUT AND WORKING WITH BUSINESSES.
WE'VE GIVEN OUT -- SUPPORT OVER 40 BSZ EVER BUSINESSES IN LESS THAN A MONTH BUT WE WANT TO DO A LOT MORE.
I WOULD APPRECIATE THE COMMISSION'S HELP IN GETTING THE WORD OUT.
DO WE WANT TO DO A QUICK POLL, I GUESS, OF THE COMMISSIONERS WHO ARE WILLING TO BE HERE ON THE 25TH OF NOVEMBER SINCE WE HAVE EVERYBODY CAPTIVE RIGHT NOW?
>> I'M NOT GOING ANYWHERE NOVEMBER 20TH.
>> I'M IN TOWN AS TO SO THAT'S TWO.
>> COMMISSIONER RODRIGUEZ CEJA.
NICCO, ARE YOU GOOD? YOU'VE GOT YOUR VOTES HERE SO WE CAN GO SCHEDULE.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE A QUESTION.
YOU MENTIONED WE HAVE THREE TO FOUR ITEMS ON EVERY SINGLE AGENDA BETWEEN NOW AND THE END OF THE YEAR, WHICH I'M HAPPY FOR.
IF ANY OF THESE ARE SUPER, SUPER, SUPER LONG OR GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT, I MAN, I'D BE MORE OPEN TO DOING A SPECIAL MEETING HERE AND IF THEIR IF WE CAN DISWEEZ IT IN VERSUS HAVING A SIX-HOUR MARATHON WE ARE WHERE WE ALL STARTED GETTING A LITTLE BIT TWITCH HEREAFTER A WHILE.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE REST OF COMMISSIONERS, IF THEY WOULD RATHER HAVE A SPECIAL COMMISSION MEETING OR A SUPER LONG ONE, SPEAK NOW OR FOREVER HOLD YOU ARE YOUR PEACE.
>> CHAIR, ON BEHALF OF STAFF, WE WILL TRY TO NOT MAKE ANY AGENDAS THAT WERE LIKE THE SEPTEMBER 23RD.
THAT WAS AN UNFORTUNATE TIMING ISSUE WITH LEILA AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS.
NOT ONLY THE COMMISSION BUT HONESTLY WE WERE KIND OF STARTING TO DIE OAT VINE, TOO, SO WE WILL TRY VERY HARD, AND LEILA AND I WILL COMMUNICATE WITH YOU IF WE THINK THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A PROJECT THAT MAY GO DOWN THE ROUTE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AND EXPLORE THAT POTENTIAL.
BUT LEILA HAS A GOOD SENSE AND SHE CAME BACK ONLINE OF THE AGENDA ITEMS SO MAYBE SHE WANTS TO WEIGH IN AT THIS POINT.
>> I JUST WANTED TO MENTION ALSO PLANNING COMMISSION TALKED TWO HOURS ON THE FIRST ITEM.
SO THAT ONE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ALL BY ITSELF.
>> THE PLANNING COMMISSION, PLEASE WORK WITH US.
>> WE HEARD YOU CLEAR THE LAST TIME, SO SURE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT IS GOING TO TAKE LIKE THAT LONG, WE WILL CONSULT WITH THE CHAIR TO DO A SPECIAL MEETING.
AND WE ALL WANT TO GET THE WORK DONE, BUT WE WANT DO IT, YOU KNOW, GOOD QUALITY WORK TOO AS WELL.
IF THERE ARE NO MORE ITEMS FROM THE STAFF, DO I HAVE ANY COMMISSIONER ITEMS OR
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COMMENTS? ANYBODY? NO.IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE LEFT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND ADJOURN THE MEETING TO OUR NEXT COMMISSIONER'S MEETING WHICH IS NOVEMBER 25, 2020 AT 6:00 P.M.
AND IT WILL BE VIRTUAL AS OF RIGHT NOW.
THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.